Couple things to note about this video: if I sound different I was sick while recording this At this part of the video 5:18 the spotlight was supposed to be on shadow and it showed it clearly fine in the editing so not sure what happened here but oh well.
I loved virtually everything about this game, especially the main stages. My biggest fear is it that the reason they go so hard is because there are only 12 of them (not counting bosses) and so they were able to put all their time and focus into just a small collection of levels. Really hoping that the quality won't diminish when it comes to future games that have heaps more stages.
There is actually certain things about Doom Morph that straight up weren't explained in the tutorial such as how to gain extra height and stuff. There's a great video by Stickman Guides on this topic.
No they can’t they are gonna start removing guns and some stupid censoring like wtf Sonic used to appeal to all ages even older fans I don’t understand why they make everything for wimps now
After playing this I've had to reconsider how we classify Sonic games. 1. Boost based speed games: Unleashed, Colours, Sonic Generations and Forces. 2. Boost based Adventure games: Lost World, Frontiers, Dream Team and Shadow generations. 3. Momentum based Adventure games: SA1, SA2, Heroes, Shadow 05 & Sonic 06. 4. Momentum based speed games: We've never had one but if we had one it'd play like Sonic GT, Sonic Encore and Sonic Utopia. Of course it's not the end all but I think this Boost-Adventure hybrid is a clearer direction on where we're going as a franchise.
My genuine only complaint about Shadow Generations is I think the game needed one more zone. As it stands, each zone serves as a tutorial for one of shadow's abilities (Ark: Chaos Control, Rail Canyon: Doom Spear, Kingdom Valley: Doom Surf, Sunset Heights: Doom Blast, Chaos Island: Doom Morph, Radical Highway: Doom Wing). I think the game really could have benefitted from having one more zone where no new ability is introduced and instead expects you to make clever use of all the abilities, or maybe have branching paths that require you to use different abilities. Like maybe one path puts you in Doom Surf while the other way gives you Doom Morph. Something like that.
I was pleased to find out that Black Doom’s return was not due to Eggman and the Time Eater. But I wish they had the collectibles on the map, because I have two rocket pieces and 5 chests do find and I can’t find them for the life of me.
If we get a future boost game, I'd be glad if feels like this since we've been saying Unleashed/Gens Sonic feels stiff but it wasn’t too jarring since some levels are linear amd boost heavy. But for expanded levels like Seaside Hill and Sky Sanctuary, id highly prefer playing with Shadow Generations movement. I also wonder what re release is next since Sonic Team really only mention Colors and Generations reception. Unleashed? New Voice Acting? Idk
i think its being very overhyped due to it still being the honeymoon phase of the game, but its still good. if they use this type of movement and level design in frontiers 2 or whatever the next mainline game is, i will not complain.
Dawg a whole week has passed and it’s perfectly rated right now at a solid 8 or 9/10. Personally, I think it’s a 9 and it’s better than Base Generations mostly because of the bosses being overall better, levels like Kingdom Valley and Radical Highway have better 3D Acts than Most of Base Gens, the gameplay feels more fluid especially in Kingdom Valley and the Story/Cutscenes are PEA. Not a single critic complained about it and the only flaws that I’ve heard from most fans or Sonic TH-camrs is that Sunset Heights was just Ok which I agree and the instructions for the Doom Morph could have been clearer which is also facts. I do agree that they should use this type of movement for Frontiers 2 and make the islands a similar size to the hub worlds in Shadow Gens.
Nice review. I got confused about the handling of Doom Morph at first, too. Like most people, probably. But I figured it out quickly. If you keep the button pressed, Shadow will automatically disconnect at the end of a swing, which moves you mainly horizontally. If you want to go upward, be it straight up vertically, or diagonally, you simply need to release the button earlier. The line between Shadow and the anchor point acts like a slingshot and launches you into the direction it points at when you release the button. So, if you want to launch vertically upwards, you need to release the button while Shadow is exactly below the anchor point.
I haven’t beat the last two levels yet bc I’m trying to get good times in the first three. But this game is so fucking good. Even the 2d parts are really amazing imo
Ok hear me out but the something about the main title screens feel low budget or rather lack of effort. They really need a reward system for earning boost. The Rush boost system was perfect, though it might not suit every game. Unleashed SD had a good system too.
I have no idea why people thought this was gonna be a "forces" game and not a fronteirs game.. like why wouldn't they continue to use this formula when it brought them success???
@JaydenXV I haven't played it so I couldn't say anything about shadow, but from what gameplay I've seen from shadow and what I've played from frontiers, they look pretty similar but ig it could just be me 😭
Doom Morph biggest problem is that there is a lot of points where you need to use it to fling upwards but to homing attack you need to look up and the camera doesn’t go higher than 45 degrees making getting a lock on really annoying.
Honestly i like radical highway from a level design standpoint, but my favorite stages are probably the ARK or kingdom valley, since radical highway locks you out of chaos control, which might honestly be my favorite ability Now for random fun facts about chaos control in bosses, if you chaos control when the biolizard slams it's arm into the floor, you can attack it for a completely different animation, and it wont do the bubble things, it just blows up the arm damaging the life support system with the explosion, and in metal overlord's final ship throw, if you chaos control then homing attack enough debris, it does a new animation
forces ruined a lot of sonic discussion. people were WAY too quick to pin the super short gameplay footage as “forces level design” despite there being barely any footage. it wouldn’t make sense for them to go that direction for level design anyway, considering it was tied to generations. seeing the effects of forces ptsd is crazy
Yeah something I could have added to explain that further was the forces producer and also the director of 06 had a big part in this game. For me personally his track record had me worried and things he has gone on record saying about his design philosophy.
@@JaydenXV oh yeah that’s totally understandable. i’m not saying i disagree or anything, the concern is valid, but i feel like the level design has been on a pretty good track record since forces. frontiers obviously reused a lot of the gens levels, but the original levels they did were decently fun too. idk, i guess time will tell whether or not this is going to be the status quo from now on lol
Yeah I think they should've added more to Sonic Gen. from all the mods that have been done from the past 10 years. Kinda disappointing how everything looks the same as the old PC.
Worth it. And I'm not even gonna watch any of this video for even implying otherwise. (Comment for the algorithm though I'm just tired of hearing the weird nit-picks so I'm judging these videos by the title now).
@@AYTM1200 i really have no idea what you were trying to accomplish here bro. Which boost game has the best level design here is completely up to preferences, since the main 4 are all great in their own ways. And obviously people will glaze the new thing, it's different when the other game is 16 years old. Plus, I was joking, he can prefer any part of any Sonic game over another's counterpart. It's just our opinions.
Shadow is the Mc idc and I’m completely unbiased Silver is my favorite character, shadow has the best arc, best powers, coolest character, best use of humans, best levels and cinematics and anime in the entire franchise
Thank you for bringing up the homing attacksm how can they go so hard on the entire game but not flair up the most common move in the game😂 mind boggling honestly
You are undoubtedly,undeniably the embodiment of talent and I wish that there was a final story to the game connecting both campaigns!!!!❤️💖💖💖💖💖❤️💛💛💖❤️❤️
REFRESHING. Authentic. No offense to other creators but it's refreshing to hear from some1 who only talks about things he understands, uses words he knows, talks about games he's actually played and backs up his subjective comments with CONTEXT like gameplay settings. Many ppl are fans of being fans. In community for community not the content. Positivity is nice too
the fact is no one really cared about it I didn't even care for the game myself, there was no hype at all before those animations came out and that was only Sonic fans.
I really hate how they changed Rouge, she is suppose to be they grown sexy thief/government agent now she sounds and looks like an Amy wtf (I like Amy but totally different vibe now)
@@SaturnProductions27 Along with the fat joke and other dialogue changes that are worse than the original. As the saying goes, give them an inch, they take a mile.
Overhyped. Bad camera and movement controls on vertical and upside down surfaces. Animations are trash for this "generation" of the series. No incentive goals for gameplay
Couple things to note about this video:
if I sound different I was sick while recording this
At this part of the video 5:18 the spotlight was supposed to be on shadow and it showed it clearly fine in the editing so not sure what happened here but oh well.
I loved virtually everything about this game, especially the main stages. My biggest fear is it that the reason they go so hard is because there are only 12 of them (not counting bosses) and so they were able to put all their time and focus into just a small collection of levels. Really hoping that the quality won't diminish when it comes to future games that have heaps more stages.
i had the same fear as well, but if you think about it , the game was made by a smaller team
There is actually certain things about Doom Morph that straight up weren't explained in the tutorial such as how to gain extra height and stuff. There's a great video by Stickman Guides on this topic.
After playing this.... I think Sega can make a "True" SA3 now, y'all know what I mean
@@Avataryaya Sonic 06 2
No they can’t they are gonna start removing guns and some stupid censoring like wtf Sonic used to appeal to all ages even older fans I don’t understand why they make everything for wimps now
@ fam I’m 30 this story mode is the closest we have gotten to 2000s/90s sonic we’ve ever gotten. What are you saying
No because adventure 3 would not have the boost. Frontiers 2 from the leaks/rumors seems to have momentum so after that game they could but not yet.
@ I know this
After playing this I've had to reconsider how we classify Sonic games.
1. Boost based speed games: Unleashed, Colours, Sonic Generations and Forces.
2. Boost based Adventure games: Lost World, Frontiers, Dream Team and Shadow generations.
3. Momentum based Adventure games: SA1, SA2, Heroes, Shadow 05 & Sonic 06.
4. Momentum based speed games: We've never had one but if we had one it'd play like Sonic GT, Sonic Encore and Sonic Utopia.
Of course it's not the end all but I think this Boost-Adventure hybrid is a clearer direction on where we're going as a franchise.
I like your comment... No! I really LOVE IT!
@@thefantasticmrMo thanks but why ?.
@@Tailsfly593 did I do something wrong ?.
How is lost world boost based when there's no boost? Lost World is like its own weird thing
Lost World is not a boost game in any way
My genuine only complaint about Shadow Generations is I think the game needed one more zone. As it stands, each zone serves as a tutorial for one of shadow's abilities (Ark: Chaos Control, Rail Canyon: Doom Spear, Kingdom Valley: Doom Surf, Sunset Heights: Doom Blast, Chaos Island: Doom Morph, Radical Highway: Doom Wing). I think the game really could have benefitted from having one more zone where no new ability is introduced and instead expects you to make clever use of all the abilities, or maybe have branching paths that require you to use different abilities. Like maybe one path puts you in Doom Surf while the other way gives you Doom Morph. Something like that.
We are getting the movie pack later get hyped
Hopefully we get some DLC like Unleashed did.
Well technically we will get an extra stage, the movie pack coming in December
Worth it. It is not hyped enough.
I was pleased to find out that Black Doom’s return was not due to Eggman and the Time Eater. But I wish they had the collectibles on the map, because I have two rocket pieces and 5 chests do find and I can’t find them for the life of me.
If we get a future boost game, I'd be glad if feels like this since we've been saying Unleashed/Gens Sonic feels stiff but it wasn’t too jarring since some levels are linear amd boost heavy.
But for expanded levels like Seaside Hill and Sky Sanctuary, id highly prefer playing with Shadow Generations movement.
I also wonder what re release is next since Sonic Team really only mention Colors and Generations reception. Unleashed? New Voice Acting? Idk
No, absolutely not. They better not even think of redubbing Unleashed with the current voice cast.
i think its being very overhyped due to it still being the honeymoon phase of the game, but its still good.
if they use this type of movement and level design in frontiers 2 or whatever the next mainline game is, i will not complain.
Dawg a whole week has passed and it’s perfectly rated right now at a solid 8 or 9/10. Personally, I think it’s a 9 and it’s better than Base Generations mostly because of the bosses being overall better, levels like Kingdom Valley and Radical Highway have better 3D Acts than Most of Base Gens, the gameplay feels more fluid especially in Kingdom Valley and the Story/Cutscenes are PEA. Not a single critic complained about it and the only flaws that I’ve heard from most fans or Sonic TH-camrs is that Sunset Heights was just Ok which I agree and the instructions for the Doom Morph could have been clearer which is also facts. I do agree that they should use this type of movement for Frontiers 2 and make the islands a similar size to the hub worlds in Shadow Gens.
Nice review. I got confused about the handling of Doom Morph at first, too. Like most people, probably. But I figured it out quickly. If you keep the button pressed, Shadow will automatically disconnect at the end of a swing, which moves you mainly horizontally. If you want to go upward, be it straight up vertically, or diagonally, you simply need to release the button earlier. The line between Shadow and the anchor point acts like a slingshot and launches you into the direction it points at when you release the button. So, if you want to launch vertically upwards, you need to release the button while Shadow is exactly below the anchor point.
Glad you enjoyed! And thanks for the tips!
I haven’t beat the last two levels yet bc I’m trying to get good times in the first three. But this game is so fucking good. Even the 2d parts are really amazing imo
I hope the success of this game encourages Sega to have a proper PC Port of Sonic unleashed been dying for a proper release of that game forever
Ok hear me out but the something about the main title screens feel low budget or rather lack of effort.
They really need a reward system for earning boost. The Rush boost system was perfect, though it might not suit every game. Unleashed SD had a good system too.
Damn I ain’t seen you since last year and you putting up these high quality vids 💪🏾
19:33 I knew you could homing attack them BUT WHAT THE FUCK YOU CAN DOOM BAST THE ARMS??!!!
I have no idea why people thought this was gonna be a "forces" game and not a fronteirs game.. like why wouldn't they continue to use this formula when it brought them success???
Well it really isn't like Frontiers either if I'm honest outside of the hub world a bit
@JaydenXV I haven't played it so I couldn't say anything about shadow, but from what gameplay I've seen from shadow and what I've played from frontiers, they look pretty similar but ig it could just be me 😭
Doom Morph biggest problem is that there is a lot of points where you need to use it to fling upwards but to homing attack you need to look up and the camera doesn’t go higher than 45 degrees making getting a lock on really annoying.
Shadow generations has levels, characters, a story, and platforming. It’s definitely one of the sonic games.
Lol smell the sarcasm
Not only that, but the best one (or one of the best)
It's truly the game of all time
😱
Honestly i like radical highway from a level design standpoint, but my favorite stages are probably the ARK or kingdom valley, since radical highway locks you out of chaos control, which might honestly be my favorite ability
Now for random fun facts about chaos control in bosses, if you chaos control when the biolizard slams it's arm into the floor, you can attack it for a completely different animation, and it wont do the bubble things, it just blows up the arm damaging the life support system with the explosion, and in metal overlord's final ship throw, if you chaos control then homing attack enough debris, it does a new animation
forces ruined a lot of sonic discussion. people were WAY too quick to pin the super short gameplay footage as “forces level design” despite there being barely any footage. it wouldn’t make sense for them to go that direction for level design anyway, considering it was tied to generations. seeing the effects of forces ptsd is crazy
Yeah something I could have added to explain that further was the forces producer and also the director of 06 had a big part in this game. For me personally his track record had me worried and things he has gone on record saying about his design philosophy.
@@JaydenXV oh yeah that’s totally understandable. i’m not saying i disagree or anything, the concern is valid, but i feel like the level design has been on a pretty good track record since forces. frontiers obviously reused a lot of the gens levels, but the original levels they did were decently fun too. idk, i guess time will tell whether or not this is going to be the status quo from now on lol
Wait how did you change doom spears to the trigger?
On PC you can use custom controls, and if on console you’d had to change the. Controls on your consoles settings
@JaydenXV Thanks dude
Yeah I think they should've added more to Sonic Gen. from all the mods that have been done from the past 10 years. Kinda disappointing how everything looks the same as the old PC.
I wanna DEEPLY apologize to all the sonic fans for hating on this game, although i still prefer sparking zero PERSONALY, this game looks REALLY fun
Ey, just cause you like other game more than this one doesn't mean you are doing something wrong, enjoy what you want, just don't spread hate
Worth it. And I'm not even gonna watch any of this video for even implying otherwise. (Comment for the algorithm though I'm just tired of hearing the weird nit-picks so I'm judging these videos by the title now).
The Unleashed glaze HAS to stop bro 😭
Believe it or not the game as a whole is like an 8
@@sikosonix901 it's the best boost level design, most of you guys are doing the same with your favourite new toy Shadow Generations.
@@AYTM1200 i really have no idea what you were trying to accomplish here bro. Which boost game has the best level design here is completely up to preferences, since the main 4 are all great in their own ways.
And obviously people will glaze the new thing, it's different when the other game is 16 years old.
Plus, I was joking, he can prefer any part of any Sonic game over another's counterpart. It's just our opinions.
@@sikosonix901 but you told him to stop glazing Unleashed, that's just his opinion as you said.
@@AYTM1200 it literally said it was a joke. Did you not read the whole reply?
Shadow is the Mc idc and I’m completely unbiased Silver is my favorite character, shadow has the best arc, best powers, coolest character, best use of humans, best levels and cinematics and anime in the entire franchise
9:37 your opinion is the same as mine, Sunset Heights just didn't have enough going for it but it's not a bad stage by an stretch.
@@chrange9714 I said "enough", meaning in comparison to the other stages.
Thank you for bringing up the homing attacksm how can they go so hard on the entire game but not flair up the most common move in the game😂 mind boggling honestly
best zone is kingdom valley, open and great for spear glides.
First good sonic team game since the og Gens.
You are undoubtedly,undeniably the embodiment of talent and I wish that there was a final story to the game connecting both campaigns!!!!❤️💖💖💖💖💖❤️💛💛💖❤️❤️
Best Sonic game
Worth it
Can't believe how hyped the game is, love it
Unleashed does NOT clear shadow gens level design
I ain’t mad if someone feels this way. It’s different enough to where I can see the preference
@ yeah I know, they’re both designed completely different
New mic👀👀
Same mic actually 👀
@ my goat just sounding handsomer then🙌🏽🙌🏽😂🙏🏽
REFRESHING. Authentic. No offense to other creators but it's refreshing to hear from some1 who only talks about things he understands, uses words he knows, talks about games he's actually played and backs up his subjective comments with CONTEXT like gameplay settings.
Many ppl are fans of being fans. In community for community not the content. Positivity is nice too
Thanks, I really appreciate this comment. I was hoping to achieve all of this, and I'm glad I was able to!
Absolutely brilliant
Shadow generations is a game.
Good
It cooked and delivered. This game is freakin DoorDash.
This made me laugh 😂
All those "step in the right direction" led to this point folks.
Worth it, for sure. The hub world can be a bit of a pain in the butt though
How so because me personally, it’s way easier to navigate than Sonic Frontiers and that game had great hub worlds except Chaos Island.
Really hope they do dlc stages for shadow gens. We needed a Shadow 05 level
the fact is no one really cared about it I didn't even care for the game myself, there was no hype at all before those animations came out and that was only Sonic fans.
The gameplay was good but the Trailers spoiled literally everything and Mephiles was fking ass
I really hate how they changed Rouge, she is suppose to be they grown sexy thief/government agent now she sounds and looks like an Amy wtf (I like Amy but totally different vibe now)
I think the censorship hurt the game a little.
Did bro get hurt from them making Amy less of a Sonic fangirl and covering up Rouge's back? Lol
@@SaturnProductions27 lol yup, i've seen some people that were genuinely triggered over those changes. They have nothing better to get upset about 😂
@@SaturnProductions27 Give them an inch, they take a mile. People like you are the problem.
@@SaturnProductions27 Along with the fat joke and other dialogue changes that are worse than the original. As the saying goes, give them an inch, they take a mile.
@@SaturnProductions27 her back is’t even covered up
Overhyped and hedgehog 2 pile of trash. Wouldve preferred a shadow 05 remake over this.
Overhyped. Bad camera and movement controls on vertical and upside down surfaces. Animations are trash for this "generation" of the series. No incentive goals for gameplay