Lisa Barnes they weren't exactly redesigned, the art style is pretty much identical, give or take a few minor details like the professor' chin being less sharp and the girls' teacher not having breasts.
Of all of these I struggle with sentiment the most. I'm actually in the process of sorting through a lot of old character sheets and either redrawing or redesigning. One character in particular is one of my oldest ones and I don't want to change him, even though I know that for story purposes I have to. It's quite the challenge.
CitrusCubing Not bad, honestly! The character I was talking about has stuck around with a much cleaner design and dramatically changed backstory so I think I did well? I ended up using his story for a uni class and realized that one of the other characters I liked is entirely useless, I guess it's time to cut the dead weight 😂 Still haven't redrawn all the old characters, new ones keep cropping up instead...yikes
I had this one character I loved him so much but the story changed so in stead of killing him like I did with the others, I keap his name, a few details on how he looked and made his power to control plants into a love of gardening
donut toast i agree, although I think building Knuckles stature up was a good decision for variation in their designs. Maybe not as extreme as they ended up doing it, though.
Random fact my character I mentioned earlier was originally designed to be Sonic fan character and I decide to make him into an original character instead.
Excellent video, it is sometimes hard to stick with a core idea and not add more features on a character. And this video is a good reminder that there is definitely a too much when it comes to features and that simple does not mean bad.
I did this last year. Called it "Project Rebirth." With some of my designs I kept it the same but the style was different. If you want to take a look let me know lol
Tetris_Citadel no, the redesigns had a point, the original designs would not work in the style that teen titans go was trying to have. A better example of unnecessary redesigning is the redesigns of the the new teen titans movie coming out this year.
Eujean Yu yea, the first change just added a few more aliens and enemies. But the world was still similar, and then style was still pretty much the same. The most recent Ben 10 has a completely new style change, a million more aliens and characters (which they barely introduced), and a completely different world. It’s not even the same story. As a kid, the show didn’t focus on story, mostly just fighting bad guys. As someone who didn’t watch tv that often, when they switched to focusing on the story it was kinda hard to catch up. Sorry for the block of text, I just miss my favourite show as a child
I recently went back to an old character I did called *Archie The Anzoonie* (don't ask, I came up with that name in like 1 minute) and the funny thing is I didn't change anything about him because I'm happy with his design. If I find the pictures I'll upload them for you to see, But now I just start drawing him from multiple angle and clean his eyes up a bit.
5:14 one of my friends and I were talking about a story i'm writing and she ended up coming up with a much better story that fit the base idea, so I scrapped the entire thing and rewrote my story from the ground up, characters, magic system all that fun stuff because it was way better.
The last one. Letting go of a character design. When Nintendo released their recent making of Breath of the Wild and shared some of the initial designs, this was the first thing to cross me haha
Well, try removing some aspects you got from Undertale, just a bit. Then add your own concepts. Maybe some ideas that can make your character more relatable to you and more personal.
An OC of mine was based off of an anime ._. But I removed some ideas and added better and more different concepts, and now I can't even tell that he did come from that anime 😀
Undertale itself started from an Earthbound ROMhack, it became something for itself when the creator rewrote Mother out of their original characters and kept the similarities that contribute to their own original work. It may require creative muscle on your part, but think about what you like about Undertale that you want your characters to take good influence from.
this is really helpful because im redesigning a character named bani because i wanted to make her look cool but now i c=want to give her a story and personality so this helps a lot!
I got this video recommended to me while redrawing my character and I feel like Susan Wabajack herself saw through my screen and actually did something good for once.
I had a kind of species of character develop from an idea that I originally intended to be a fan-made Pokemon. Originally, the species was supposed to control light, and had a weird bipedal goat-vibe about it. I had a story for them, but ultimately it sucked, and I tried to revamp it (and another species alongside it) to make it a full-on alien species as opposed to a Pokemon, and changed around the idea. That didn't work at all, and the design faded into the back of my mind. Eventually, I had an idea, and even though it wasn't anything like how I originally intended it to be, I liked it more, and thus that design stuck and is now pretty much how I intend to keep it. (If you're curious, This: r-poole.deviantart.com/art/The-Chara-and-The-Vauger-348168010 is what it looked like before, and This: r-poole.deviantart.com/art/The-Chara-637455658 is what it looks like now.)
It'll be also nice if you could add some 'spice' to your character, make them do something instead of the standard standing. Maybe reloading a gun, running away or sitting down, anything to make it intreguing.
The thing is that these things are not individual characters; they're an entire species. The pose and the clothes are basic just so I could use it as a reference. There are characters that are a part of this species, and when I draw them I will draw them with more complex parts.
Hey I have a question. I want to make my own comic, and I have a concept, but I feel like I am not skilled enough in storytelling to make it; should I hold it off and make smaller stories, or make this grand story I have in my head.
SuperDuper I understand your dilemma. I'd say it's better to make smaller stories first so you have room to learn and experiment with writing. Make sure that the story in these short stories is generic, like a simple revenge plot, or saving a damsel in distress, this way you can focus on the characters.
SuperDuper I know what you mean, but I feel like you should start when you've improved enough to be happy with your other work. Then again, you can always just remake your old material if you look back and aren't happy with it.
That was in the context of the situation where an idea is in your head vs. putting it down on paper/recording it. Your "big idea" is something you can hold onto. I would say start something that you can finish: A project you can plan out and complete in just a few months. The goal is to learn something from the project and to have the sense of accomplishment that comes with completion. Then, do it again. Work your way up to your big idea, so that it's doable, from a management and skills standpoint!
Brookes Eggleston - Character Design Forge do you use a complex list of questions, do you just write down core personality traits, or something in between? Thanks! (Ohmygodhenoticedme)
That depends on what you want to focus on, is it more important that your character has good anatomy or that your character stands out easily because of his exaggerated features? When it comes to character creation it is important to know what you want so that you can base your decisions on that.
I can't do the homework because I've drawn the same group of characters almost exclusively, and been iterating on them for 8 years, and before that, I just did fanart! XD Nice try :P
+Lunar Star Studio Hey there! So my main method of doing that is through One-on-One sessions: brookeseggleston.com/one-on-one but as a Patron I can give a slightly less thorough critique if you’d like!
I generally dont like dissing stuff because theres fans of everything, it was just the most egregious example of this thing. Im sure it’s great though and have heard it grew into it’s own thing
Brookes Eggleston - Character Design Forge lollol I wasn’t being serious I will fully admit I have nostalgia goggles that show will probably be terrible if I rewatch it now
The first "don't" *glares at the powerpuff girls reboot*
Lisa Barnes they weren't exactly redesigned, the art style is pretty much identical, give or take a few minor details like the professor' chin being less sharp and the girls' teacher not having breasts.
Seriously?
The design yes but personality? idk they seem different.
I mean they took what seemed to be ecstasy and twerking just to look trendy.
The redesigns look okay, and I actually prefer them over the originals.
How is it that whenever I'm facing problems with drawing, you coincidentally upload a video on how to solve them?
It's my moderately useful super-power, I guess 😄
Of all of these I struggle with sentiment the most. I'm actually in the process of sorting through a lot of old character sheets and either redrawing or redesigning. One character in particular is one of my oldest ones and I don't want to change him, even though I know that for story purposes I have to. It's quite the challenge.
It's been 3 years how did that go 😂
CitrusCubing Not bad, honestly! The character I was talking about has stuck around with a much cleaner design and dramatically changed backstory so I think I did well? I ended up using his story for a uni class and realized that one of the other characters I liked is entirely useless, I guess it's time to cut the dead weight 😂 Still haven't redrawn all the old characters, new ones keep cropping up instead...yikes
@@beawolfe rip. I've never struggled with having too much Characters, but instead I have too little 😅 can I have some 👀
CitrusCubing I'd offer some but they're all in use haha
@@beawolfe rip
*Insert pic of esidisi crying*
I had this one character I loved him so much but the story changed so in stead of killing him like I did with the others, I keap his name, a few details on how he looked and made his power to control plants into a love of gardening
i feel like the makers of sonic boom can take great lessons of this
Looks at Sticks, Amy and Tails disagrees.
Looks at Sonic, Eggman and Knuckles Agrees.
donut toast i agree, although I think building Knuckles stature up was a good decision for variation in their designs. Maybe not as extreme as they ended up doing it, though.
Random fact my character I mentioned earlier was originally designed to be Sonic fan character and I decide to make him into an original character instead.
Keith Jones I have done that so many times😀
I think the Sonic Boom designs are great and work very well in the.context
Extremely helpful video, I'm going to go and try to find some old character designs right now! :)
Excellent video, it is sometimes hard to stick with a core idea and not add more features on a character. And this video is a good reminder that there is definitely a too much when it comes to features and that simple does not mean bad.
I did this last year. Called it "Project Rebirth." With some of my designs I kept it the same but the style was different. If you want to take a look let me know lol
1:00 Like teen titans go?
Tetris_Citadel no, the redesigns had a point, the original designs would not work in the style that teen titans go was trying to have. A better example of unnecessary redesigning is the redesigns of the the new teen titans movie coming out this year.
Ben 10 has did this a million times
+Hakim Sharulnizam In a good way or bad way? I haven't ever kept up with Ben 10
Brookes Eggleston - Character Design Forge
To me, it was good at first. Now, not so much ._.
Eujean Yu yea, the first change just added a few more aliens and enemies. But the world was still similar, and then style was still pretty much the same. The most recent Ben 10 has a completely new style change, a million more aliens and characters (which they barely introduced), and a completely different world. It’s not even the same story. As a kid, the show didn’t focus on story, mostly just fighting bad guys. As someone who didn’t watch tv that often, when they switched to focusing on the story it was kinda hard to catch up.
Sorry for the block of text, I just miss my favourite show as a child
very helpful. I've had a few characters I had to let go in my old art. RIP those 10 characters I could never use.
I recently went back to an old character I did called *Archie The Anzoonie* (don't ask, I came up with that name in like 1 minute) and the funny thing is I didn't change anything about him because I'm happy with his design. If I find the pictures I'll upload them for you to see, But now I just start drawing him from multiple angle and clean his eyes up a bit.
I always try to come at the ring of the bell. This will be useful.
5:14 one of my friends and I were talking about a story i'm writing and she ended up coming up with a much better story that fit the base idea, so I scrapped the entire thing and rewrote my story from the ground up, characters, magic system all that fun stuff because it was way better.
A scientists once said while talking about AI, “If there’s a way, humans will do it anyways, regardless of consequences!”
The last one. Letting go of a character design. When Nintendo released their recent making of Breath of the Wild and shared some of the initial designs, this was the first thing to cross me haha
Ur voice cracks are so iconic I love it!
I made 2 OCs, I really like them but there's one problem.
I made them for an existing universe.
(*sigh*, Yes, it's undertale.)
How do I solve this?
I need some ideas for an origin story too
Harvey Bower Only you can decide on your oc.
Well, try removing some aspects you got from Undertale, just a bit.
Then add your own concepts. Maybe some ideas that can make your character more relatable to you and more personal.
An OC of mine was based off of an anime ._.
But I removed some ideas and added better and more different concepts, and now I can't even tell that he did come from that anime 😀
Undertale itself started from an Earthbound ROMhack, it became something for itself when the creator rewrote Mother out of their original characters and kept the similarities that contribute to their own original work. It may require creative muscle on your part, but think about what you like about Undertale that you want your characters to take good influence from.
this is really helpful because im redesigning a character named bani because i wanted to make her look cool but now i c=want to give her a story and personality so this helps a lot!
I got this video recommended to me while redrawing my character and I feel like Susan Wabajack herself saw through my screen and actually did something good for once.
I liked the designs of Lunatics Unleashed...
Ur awsm.. got to learn a lot from u
I had a kind of species of character develop from an idea that I originally intended to be a fan-made Pokemon. Originally, the species was supposed to control light, and had a weird bipedal goat-vibe about it. I had a story for them, but ultimately it sucked, and I tried to revamp it (and another species alongside it) to make it a full-on alien species as opposed to a Pokemon, and changed around the idea. That didn't work at all, and the design faded into the back of my mind. Eventually, I had an idea, and even though it wasn't anything like how I originally intended it to be, I liked it more, and thus that design stuck and is now pretty much how I intend to keep it.
(If you're curious, This: r-poole.deviantart.com/art/The-Chara-and-The-Vauger-348168010 is what it looked like before, and This: r-poole.deviantart.com/art/The-Chara-637455658 is what it looks like now.)
I remember watching a video saying something about desigining the character to suit the enviroment, not the other way around. Maybe that'll help
It'll be also nice if you could add some 'spice' to your character, make them do something instead of the standard standing. Maybe reloading a gun, running away or sitting down, anything to make it intreguing.
The thing is that these things are not individual characters; they're an entire species. The pose and the clothes are basic just so I could use it as a reference. There are characters that are a part of this species, and when I draw them I will draw them with more complex parts.
I'm going to redesign my boy Cringe now!
Thanks!
Hey I have a question. I want to make my own comic, and I have a concept, but I feel like I am not skilled enough in storytelling to make it; should I hold it off and make smaller stories, or make this grand story I have in my head.
SuperDuper I understand your dilemma. I'd say it's better to make smaller stories first so you have room to learn and experiment with writing. Make sure that the story in these short stories is generic, like a simple revenge plot, or saving a damsel in distress, this way you can focus on the characters.
BayLaugh Animations but Brookes said to not let an idea being in your head for to long, to make what I ever is on your mind
SuperDuper I know what you mean, but I feel like you should start when you've improved enough to be happy with your other work. Then again, you can always just remake your old material if you look back and aren't happy with it.
That was in the context of the situation where an idea is in your head vs. putting it down on paper/recording it. Your "big idea" is something you can hold onto. I would say start something that you can finish: A project you can plan out and complete in just a few months. The goal is to learn something from the project and to have the sense of accomplishment that comes with completion. Then, do it again. Work your way up to your big idea, so that it's doable, from a management and skills standpoint!
Brookes Eggleston - Character Design Forge I see, thanks for the advice man
What do you do to organize character personalities?
Organize?
Brookes Eggleston - Character Design Forge do you use a complex list of questions, do you just write down core personality traits, or something in between? Thanks!
(Ohmygodhenoticedme)
GAh thanks for this!
Oh no? Do I hear Magnolia Bakery by Zalza in the background? And some other Zalza music. Good tastes~
I was literally just updated my character and I just clicked on this absent mindedly. Ha
if im in the early development of a character is it good to make tons of small changes until it works in the story? or... things or... just help pls
5:43 Oh man! Have I got some NEWS for YOU!!! >:D
(I Redesigned 4 of my Old Characters which I'll show you Next Year. :3)
How do you make a character have exaggerated features but still have good anatomy and movement?
That depends on what you want to focus on, is it more important that your character has good anatomy or that your character stands out easily because of his exaggerated features? When it comes to character creation it is important to know what you want so that you can base your decisions on that.
I can't do the homework because I've drawn the same group of characters almost exclusively, and been iterating on them for 8 years, and before that, I just did fanart! XD
Nice try :P
1:05 *cough*Ben10 Reboot*couch*
Transformers is a wonderful example of this
4:06 This man predicted Whitty
If we join your patreon, can we ask for critique with our own characters? :)
+Lunar Star Studio Hey there! So my main method of doing that is through One-on-One sessions: brookeseggleston.com/one-on-one but as a Patron I can give a slightly less thorough critique if you’d like!
3:20 LONG LIVE RUBBER HOSE!
It's okay, Brookes, you can just say Sonic Boom
Him doing 100 day 100 character still looking good
Me doing 30 days 30 characters
Burnout and creative block
Ah shit here we go again
April o neil
Man, I lost all my old character drawings.
I liked Loonatics :{
first
But I liked loony toons unleashed.......
Don’t dis loonatics
I generally dont like dissing stuff because theres fans of everything, it was just the most egregious example of this thing. Im sure it’s great though and have heard it grew into it’s own thing
Brookes Eggleston - Character Design Forge lollol I wasn’t being serious I will fully admit I have nostalgia goggles that show will probably be terrible if I rewatch it now