NANO TEXTURE UPDATE! please note that I may have spoken too soon with regards to “not getting Nano” It might actually be great for artists specifically - I placed my order for it and will be sharing a video about it”nano vs paperlike” in about 3-4 weeks when it ships. I had a chance to test it at the Apple Store yesterday and really enjoyed the experience
Hii I’m surprised that there’s someone like you talking about all these details of Apple Pencil pro since people are just complaining negatively about it. Can you tell me all the apps that did you used of drawing in the video? Also hii from Puerto Rico
Finally the one review I was waiting for, just as I was getting sick of all the useless crap those tech review channels are making. Unlike you, they are totally not the target audience as these devices are only good for them to be reviewed over and over again
Yea I honestly cringe when I hear tech youtubers say: “i don’t know who this is for”, or “it’s still just an iPad, no where as useful as a Mac”, or the worst one “still can’t video edit on this thing” Like seriously, is it not obvious that the target audience is digital artists and paperless writers?
so tired of out of touch tech TH-camrs refusing to understand that the iPad is supposed to be an iPad and not a fucking Mac. all these idiots understand is video editing. anything other than that and theyre clueless. god forbid people use an iPad for anything other than video editing. "there's no pro software" my ass
@@Ken-dm5xti mean for that price? Those things are valid af. You could literally draw from an ipad released 5 yrs ago. I would be on your side if they are both priced relatively close. But it seems like you just wanted someone to kiss Apple's ass. You and the op's bias is so strong your isheep ass is showing.
@@Ken-dm5xtWell, they’re not wrong about "It’s still just an iPad, no where as useful as a Mac". iPadOS as of far is atrocious and a glorified iPhoneOS but bigger. I don’t own a computer other than the 12.9 iPad Pro pre-M1 model, so let me tell you about my struggles. There are many essential things for me that you cannot do on iPadOS like formatting your own USB drives, flash drives and USB accessories that suddenly stop working after you update the OS, a Files app that is very rudimentary, apps and downloads not running in the background or when the screen is off…etc. Something has to change with the iPad Pro and iPadOS is the biggest stinking culprit. I mean it fulfills its promises as a professional design/art tool for me, but iPadOS lacks professionally in basic OS tasks that my cheap $150 android phone can do. Other than that, I agree with everything else you said.
I’m old enough to recall the initial release of the iPad and thinking, FINALLY a device selfishly invented just for Artists, NO ONE ELSE! Good ol’ Steve Jobs! 🙌🏾 It was a dream come true for Art Narcissists like me! I rolled my eyes every time TH-camrs called it a toy for not having features that THEY wanted 🙄 LOL my thought was always, “who cares?” Don’t buy it and move on! These things are for ARTISTS and your GRANDMA, who don’t need all the extra crap! I was actually shocked when Apple finally upgraded to a decent filing system. I was having so much fun with the art apps, that I really didn’t really know what I was missing until it arrived. I thought maybe the so-called “regular users“ were right. Perhaps IPads aren’t really all they’re cracked up to be 🧐 But now, with the release of the new Apple Pencil and ZBrush, I’m DOUBING down! If you don’t like iPads, WHO CARES, take a hike! Grab whatever tablet that you DO like from whatever company, and call it a day 🤷🏾
So refreshing to see reviewers that really uses the ipad to its potential review the iPad pro instead of other tech reviewers that always says "this is not a pro machine","apple should put macos in the ipad", like they don't get what is the target audience of this product.
Professional artists overwhelmingly work in the Adobe software suite, and therefore are not the target audience for iPad Pro. Wacom tablets remain the solution for people actually working in the fields of animation, 3D modeling, graphic design, etc. As long as Apple divides the iPad and Mac ecosystems, and further subdivides the iPad ecosystem between base and "pro" users, the Apple Pencil will never take off as a viable alternative to Wacom. The consumer base of professional artists is extremely niche. Apple just wants to monopolize that space for itself, which is why they intentionally setup so many barriers to entry.
As an artist, I totally agree about the nano texture… not a fan. But unlike you, I always go for the 11” iPad Pro. Not only because I travel a lot, but because it’s just easier to hold when sketching while standing. To me it’s a true tablet. And even when I’m using it on a table, the 11” screen is plenty enough for me. But it’s all good. 👍 Whichever size iPad an artist uses, they’re amazing tools to create on!
Man, I've been waiting eagerly for this! It's hilarious how you made exactly the same points and comments I had thought about while watching non-artist iPad reviewers but couldn't quite put into words hahah
Watching this with a bowl of popcorn, drooling over the aesthetic and high quality, while waiting for the art police trickling in, who complain about you don't only use stone powder and a cave wall. Bring it on, people. I'm ready :D
@@AdamDuffArt Lol, glad you're still having so much fun. I have to say, it's suspiciously quiet ... maybe it's Stardew Valley day. Have a good one and enjoy this fantastic piece of tech :)
@@AdamDuffArt Oh really? Really like it too. It is my cryptonite though, because the inner completionist wants me to collect ERRATHAAANG! It‘s a curse. Just like Story of Seasons. How far in are you? Oh, and will you play Black Myth Wukong and Star Wars Outlaws? We're quite excited for those.
You are proof in the pudding - the value I got from your video from an artist perspective was pretty significant beyond the main tech reviewers I've seen. I had no idea they kept the tap feature on the pencil, let alone the fact that you can trigger it from a distance! That also makes it the perfect presentation device for instructors on-site who are projecting their display. I still think they should redesign the old pencil to have these updates, its just so significant. Lots of people who aren't going to buy a new ipad for 3 years would definitely consider upgrading the pen imo. Not sure If I'll skip the M4 entirely, but I'm definitely sticking with my M2. I hope they make apple pencil hover OS-wide like a desktop cursor in WWDC. Now THAT would truly make it a must have feature.
yup, my M2 is still running strong. Seems like the i'll let the iPads marinate for a while, maybe the M5 or M6 will bring actual worth-spending-another-$2k-over changes.
I think the nano vs. glossy decision for artists isn't as straightforward as Adam claimed. Yes, you don't want to double-dip with diffusion by adding a matte cover on top of a matte screen, but not everybody wants the tactile grittyness of a paperlike - some just want a bit more minimalist line stability while drawing and gliding a hand over the screen. For me I much prefer the nanotexture drawing experience so far compared to any screen protector I've ever tried (including paperlike and astropad). The loss to color saturation is also pretty marginal compared to my M2 glossy, and is worth it to have less ambient lighting glare indoors.
Agreed. Not everyone likes the coarse feel of paper like covers. But that’s his opinion for himself. For example,e, there must be well over a dozen major sets of pencils from major art pencils manufacturers. I’ve found that each of those I’ve used over the years feel somewhat different. I would tend to pick up the ones I like a bit better, mist of the time. But other people will prefer the ones I like least. That’s why all of these companies exist.
It’s doesn’t sound great at all. Most artists never use barrel rotation over glorified feature. Now if you use it that’s great. Most pros over the last decade have used Wacom pro pen with no barrel rotation
Great video. I’ve come to the conclusion that the average “tech reviewer” on TH-cam is a very basic individual who rarely had a professional career other than TH-cam. They’re not professional journalists, artists, engineers or designers of anything other than TH-cam. So they frequently look to each other for content and point of views. It’s an echo chamber. As a viewer it’s always refreshing to hear from artist and other professionals about how THEY use the tech. Great video.
00:05 😃 The reviewer, a professional artist, is excited to review the 2024 M4 iPad Pro, highlighting his extensive experience and unbiased perspective. 00:28 📱 The entry-level iPad Pro model with 256GB storage and 8GB RAM is deemed sufficiently powerful for professional use. 01:14 📏 The iPad Pro's thinness is notable, making it feel futuristic, although it can be confusing when selecting the correct iPad from a stand. 02:11 🎨 The new tandem OLED screen offers higher contrast, color accuracy, and lower power consumption compared to the previous mini-LED screen. 04:17 🔋 Improved battery life and exceptional image quality make the new display a significant upgrade, though older models remain highly capable. 05:17 🎨 Artists should avoid Nano texture screens to maintain the best image quality and color fidelity. 06:28 ⌨ The new Magic Keyboard for the iPad Pro is similar to Apple's Magic Keyboard, with improved stability but some back-heavy issues. 08:12 🧲 Magnet alignment for the new iPad Pro can be tricky due to internal changes, affecting stand compatibility. 09:25 ✏ The Apple Pencil Pro introduces a haptic pinch feature, enhancing functionality and user experience for professional artists. 13:02 🖌 The haptic pinch feature works well with grips and can be used in various artist grips, providing versatility in usage. 15:08 🎨 The haptic pinch is a press and hold function, ideal for tasks like using an eyedropper tool, improving workflow efficiency.
will you ever try the new Wacom Moveink 13?? i like your way of reviewing haha, so wishing for the Wacom Moveink 13 review or maybe just your thought about it
Waited and waited and finally upgraded my 2018 Pro to a “base” model M4 Pro. Yes its pricey but i spend most of my time on my ipad. Can’t wait for the Procreate update. I’ve enrolled into a Udemy course and am feeling quite inspired to improve my digital art and get creative. Your content and presentation style is much appreciated.
For just painting iPad is okay. For quick file management and multi window usage for split screen display not the greatest. Honestly the best would be have apple and android apps with windows OS but have tablet hardware be iPad. I saw someone take the monitor off of their laptop and hookup the tablet to it with sidecar to have 2 operating systems they can run because iPad iOS is so bad lol
What should I buy 13 inch ipad air m2 or ipad pro 11 inch m4 for digital art and animation???? Does 11 inch ipad pro feels small when drawing???? Pls reply
11:00 this corporate apologia for apple's siloing of their product lines so cringey. Lol how are "artists" this much of sell outs? I guess its the narcissism of thinking you are this special gifted person who needs proprietary tools.
I can still appreciate Samsung including the S Pen in the box with their Tab S9 series. I have both now, so I’m about to find out how well the Apple Pencil Pro can compete. Pencil just got here though, so it’s charging while I watch this video.
Apparently the OLED option has the potential burn-in issue: the appearance of permanent ghost images after some time (like every OLED on earth.. also QD-OLEDs (but not QLED (like in some Huion's tablets), those are fine, different tech, no burn-in)) and the "remedies" not always work, neither applicable with every workflow.... and the high PWM on the M4 iPad Pro produces a screen flicker not perceptible by everyone (but when recorded for video on youtube it can be super obvious/obnoxious) but which for quite some people is a serious problem. not sure how healthy that is even for people who don't "perceive" it. In general I avoid high PWM issues in any monitor I purchase (even more than I avoid OLED). To what degree these two things will show up... time will tell. But while I'm more of a desktop PC based artist (with Eizo monitors, best in the world - even compared to Apple's- for color and accuracy in general) I am considering the new 13 inches iPad AIR for 'on the go' painting - not really for full outdoor, of course, that's the advantage of the OLED option, due to the gazillion of nits- as the new M2 AIR still uses the lovely LED (IPS), has the M2, which is plenty for painting, no real need for M4, supports the new Pencil Pro, and has the 13 inches option now (finally not only in Pro). But pricey... 928$ when adding the Pencil Pro and minimal specs. And 11" is too tiny for painting. Still dreaming of some Android tablet company, or Apple, to come up with a 17" version with pen support.
I'm so glad that apple is taking all this consideration for artist is such a big deal for people that love tech and also art!!! I will get my soon and I can wait to use it.
17:46 Forgot to add the link to that video (not a problem, though). Me, I hope Apple decides for once to produce a 17 inches (or bigger) ipad. Yep, no company is doing it, but even more reason for going for it (on-brand, with Apple). It would be a tad better for illustration, comics, design, photography, etc. I would make the swap from Samsung tablets (although my main tool is/will always be the desktop).
Awesome review! How does the M4 iPad fit in the Darkboard? I'm curious if the thinness might affect the fit.This is one thing I haven't heard anyone mention yet
I've got the 11' pro and pencil pro two days ago, my first ipad and first time in procreate. While the FEELING is still better on my cintiq in regards to screen and stylus ipad is suprisingly better and more comfortable in every other aspect. I'll look into a paperlike screen protector maybe then it could beat out the cintiq. It's expensive but I'm quite pleased to have it with these amazing specs for years to come - def worth it, the pro at least, I wouldn't pay the money for the air and it's 60Hz LED
I've been waiting for the new iPads to finally upgrade my 2019 one. Yes, not cheap by any means but if you're the type who counts on a straight 5-6 year run, at least, off Apple hardware -- then the ROI improves dramatically. And right now is the best time to do such an investment.
Thanks. I was considering the Nano texture but I like a paper textured screen protector. And from what I've heard, the texture on the Nano is kind of gummy. It gives resistance but it doesn't have any texture. 50% of the artists that have tried it didn't like it and the other ones liked it so it's hard to tell it's a preference thing.
Waaaiiit, can you connect the keyboard to the drawing app?????!!!? Is this possible for Procreate as well or is it only in that app you use? :d That’s a game changer!
I disagree about nano texture , i got both first and returned my standard glass after dew days. Ipad with a Paper like screen protector looks way way worse than the nano texture one . Nano texture is also a joy to draw on . I would also argue nano texture display looks better most of the time.
I specifically waited for this review. I saw so many other reviews from non-artists that just didn't understand so many features. Your review is excellent and really helped me in deciding that this will be the first iPad I finally invest in. Also, I know you're not a huge fan of Procreate but when you select a drawing tool in Procreate, it casts a shadow on the screen in the form of that tool. For example, the ink pen's shadow looks like an ink pen, and when you rotate the Apple Pencil Pro, the shadow rotates with it. Totally not necessary but cool nonetheless. Thank you!
Tried it at the apple store, the nano glass was blurry w a matte finish, its only for super bright environments and not worth it The pinch feature of the pro pencil didnt activate consistently, maybe thats me not being familiar w it but i found myself immediately ignoring it entirely and instead just tapping the screen icons directly. It feels like a capacitive sensor backed up by the rumble motor to simulate 'interaction', id much rather a mechanical switch that clicks. The m4 is a nice device overall but the new pencil doesnt feel that different, ill stick w the 2nd gen ipad pro from 2016; the price for m4 pro is way too high.
I ordered the new Ipad Air with the pencil pro the day of their event. So far i cannot be happy enough and working as concept artist professionally with it, i would HIGHLY recommend it to any artists. The Air can do everything the pro can with "mostly" no differences that you will notice in any of your work and if you need more then you can use an actual computer to do the heavy HEAVY lifting. Aside from saving hundreds of dollars the Air can do everything you will ever need it to. The greatest thing out of this whole new line for me personally is the pen, the pen features have been a GAME CHANGER with the haptic feedback and squeeze has been so damn nice to have not only physically but mentally. If you dont want to fork out the full price for the pro, highly suggest going for the new air.
Would you reccomend getting a 11 inch m4 pro or a 13 inch m2 pro? if you had to choose between them. is the screen size or the pencil pro more important/nice to have?
Hy, casual drafter and future Tattoo artist here! (Drawing almost every day) I´m thinking about upgrading to m4 (Currently owning an 2018 iPad pro). Would you say it is a huge leap between those two regarding technology and worth upgrading? If yes, should I go with 1 TB option? (Cuz i´d be using it for the next 5 years or so.) I don´t wanna spend money on something that has only some minor tweaks changes where I´m not gonna notice a difference at all...
I do t think that 1TB is necessary - I generally use iCloud and you can always connect an external USB-C drive if you need, Apple overcharges for their memory As for performance, for my work, the M2 with hover is essential, but if you focus primarily on line art then it might not be as important The 2018 might do the job just fine - I’d only upgrade if it’s not a reliable enough iPad for your current needs
@@AdamDuffArt First of all, thank you for the fast response and a very usefull info. Okay, I think my iPad is still reliable for the amount of work I do so I`m not going to upgrade just yet. Thank you one more time and have a nice day!
Great video, and thanks for sharing! Professional artist here as well. As an alternative to the M4 Pro people should seriously look at the M2 Ipad Air with Apple Pencil Pro support. M2 is plenty powerful for most users. The new pencil is a game changer IMO, but an OLED display is a nice to have not necessarily a must have. Our team upgraded to 2 of the new Airs as opposed to a previous generation of Ipad Pro. So far very stoked, just patiently waiting for Adobe Fresco and Procreate to release their updates!🤙 Happy drawing!
I wished they just gave us more than only one Pencil Pro Version. They could make Money for the older Ipad Pro´s too, but they want us so badly to upgarde. But yeah its still the Company that only offers bigger Storage for a lot more Money or a Cloud sub, and the new Screen Texture for there pricy 1 TB + M4´s. Its rly sad to see. Nonetheless nice to see your take on the new M4 and that u like the new Features! Happy painting!
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I just love to see someone that’s really gets who the new iPads and pens is for. I salute you Adam. Always a joy watching your videos 🙏🏻
Really wanna upgrade to this from my 6th gen ipad. What are your opinions on ipad air 13 inch, for me personally, the only thing bothering me is the difference in display, otherwise i guess air is perfect value for money.
Apple fan boys: OMG look how thin it is!! Artists: I have made art with paper and CRT monitors... I don't care how thin it is. I mean Wacom Cintiqs are still considered the holy grail of digital art tech and as big as it is it ONLY let's you draw using software that needs to be connected to a PC. Apple Users and Apple Artists are entirely different demographics and it is funny to see how each side takes a stand on one feature versus another. I also use EL Display hub to use my M1 iPad Pro as a display tablet for my PC's Photoshop, just because. Eventhough I also own a 20" XP-Pen Pro.
Finally a useful review. I’ve been humming and hawing over what to buy and I think I might forgo the newest model and get an older m2 based on your review. It doesn’t seem like this newest one really offers enough to justify the price just yet. Maybe when the price drops after the release of the next one. Cheers
Thanks for the review! Best review I’ve seen as an artist. Looks like I’ll just get the prev gen M2 pro since it has great value right now. Sucks that the pencil pro doesn’t work with previous gens. That really sucks.
Sidecar is working better with the usb cable connected to the mac. Stable connection and all. What I am wondering though, do all the pen stuff work over sidecar. Hover and all? I am wondering if I update my old ipad pro, or get one of the new wacom tablets, like wacom movink. I know the price difference is huge. Not talking about price :)
Yeah i'm not buying the "we had to move the inside parts and now the pencil is solely compatible with the newest devices" story, definitely done deliberately. I'm enjoying my M2 and was excited for a pencil upgrade but this is just stupid, literally the same bs as with the pencil hover feature being just softwarelocked only to be usable on m2's, now they just took it a step further.
I was going to get the 1tb version for the extra Ram. I'm glad that I watched your video because it's extremely expensive if you go with that model. Like $3,000 if you live in Canada like I do. And you hardly get much of a upgrade in performance. I would only spend that if they made it bigger than 13 in which is still kind of small for an art display. I want at least 16. Samsung basically has a 16 but I've tried their stuff before. It doesn't feel as nice as iPad.
Would i still get a good experience for digital art on the iPad air 6? It seems it only has an iPS panel, and I'm having doubts if it has poor color accuracy? Anyone have suggestions?
A screen protector costs 30 bucks not an extra 100… plus you can take it off anytime unlike the permanent nano texture. Just look at screen protectors used for over a year with the Apple Pencil it’s not pretty
You don’t want to use Nano Texture AND a drawing screen protector at the same time - that doubles up the diffusion layers Nano only impacts light diffusion but it doesn’t offer a paper like texture for drawing - so I don’t recommend it unless you aren’t someone planning on drawing on your iPad
@@AdamDuffArt I will say, I popped into the apple store just to A/B test the glossy screen and nano-texture display, and I actually found it to be notably better for drawing, to the point I preferred it to a paperlike screen protector. It's incredibly subjective on what's better and I'd NOT blanket recommend it, it's a lot less toothy and feels quite soft vs a paperlike screen protector. Reminds me of a traditional drawing tablet type texture you'd get on an intuos! It DOES suck that it's only available on 1TB and up models though, not really excited to shovel out £2200 just for that, although it might mean that there'll be some newer, more exciting features available!
@@AdamDuffArtI tried the nano texture in the store and if you look side by side you can barely tell the blacks aren’t as dark. Imagine you’re outside or near a window using the glossy screen you won’t be able to see shit. The nano texture pros outweigh the cons. Maybe if you’re working on pro work for a studio it’s not worth it but as a freelance artist selling your own work I doubt you will need that level of pinpoint blacks.
Great video thank you. Informative and Entertaining both. I ordered the M4 11 iPad just yesterday. Like you I decided to trade in my old iPad, a 1st Generation iPad Pro which has served me well. Really looking forward to the new iPad, the great tandem OLED screen and the new pencil (what terrific technology).
4:26 is it LG, Samsung or ?, OLED tech? 8:52 charging pro can be aligned otherwise all other stands will need to reorganize where magnets are. 14:28 Does Apple Pencil Pro use bluetooth? 17:23 i prefer pencil shape as is, because different grip shapes and feel for different people.
Got a brand new m2 ipad pro 11” 128gb for $670, I am not sure if i got it on a great deal since i am not that techie. For me this will be my 5yrs to 7 yrs ipad.
When U were holding the ipad on the new case & U were pointing at it w/ the apple pencil announcing “Hey U can even draw on this too!”, for some strange reason - for a hot second, I thought U were saying that one can now draw on the trackpad w/ the pencil like a tablet too. Clearly I was waaay off lol
Thank you so much for this review. I’ve decided it’s better to get the standard screen over nano-texture because I prefer the double OLED colors. I can just put on a magnetic screen protector for drawing and then remove it when I’m not drawing and I want to do other things like media consumption. I already hold on to my tech devices for a long time because tech isn’t cheap (for me it’s usually 6+ years). I’m planning on getting this iPad M4 and will be holding on to it for many years. I do animation and 3D work so I will opt for the higher storage for the higher RAM for animation and 3D modeling workflow on the iPad just in case. 1 and 2TB options have more RAM, which may be good for being able to do more layers/tracks for animation, higher resolution for drawing and being able to achieve more details on a 3D model (aka more polygons).
I’m definitely in just the artist hobbyist camp but love your reviews. Been waiting to upgrade my 2018 pro and although I don’t neeeeeeed anything in the m4 pros other than a higher base storage I think it’s finally time. But I’m still waiting on Zugu to make their new cases and to see if the new iOS update brings anything crazy that would warrant the higher ram in the 1tb version.
my only issue as an artist is i feel like im obligated to get a case to protect my ipad. i really like the apple keyboard, but it doesnt feel like its enough to protect my ipads back case and itll get scratched so easily. i feel like having a foldable stand is the way to go, but having my ipad all barebones naked sitting on it is making me scream internally that it could get scratched by something...i wish they had thin cases that were still able to let the ipad use the magic keyboard with it on :( my issue is also the apple pencil pro and having to needing to buy it with the new ipad. my previous pencil is still in a great condition and i hate having to buy yet another new accessory with the new ipad.
Appreciate all the coverage! Was a bit bummed when you mentioned using it via sidecar for photoshop wasn’t that great of an experience. That’s exactly what I was hoping M4 would be able to do nicely. Thanks again for your review!
BTW sidecar gets a really good reliable connections if you connect it through usb cable, it tells you it will be switching to usb connection and then its all good or you can just turn off wifi and bluetooth on the ipad and the wireless connection to your mac becomes better.
I received mine last Thursday to replace my M1 iPad Pro. It's much smoother for drawing at a high resolution in Procreate and the pencil is a nice update. The haptics actually makes the pencil double-tap to switch between brush and eraser useful. I was always hitting it by accident before and not knowing that I switched between them. I ended up disabling double-tap, but now turned it back on because I can actually feel when it switches. Also, I recommend smooth glass and no screen protector, but that's just my preference.
@@AdamDuffArt very true. I mean, IIRC, the only stylus I’ve ever seen support rotation before this was the Wacom Art Pen and they haven’t made that for a looooooong time. I’ve never used one with rotation and honestly don’t know what of my go to brushes would actually benefit from that
Thanks to hover on my M2 Pro, I was able to see the brush stamp in an app like Procreate and changing the hand position, I can fake what it would look like with rotation and there’s so few brushes that I could take advantage of it
Phenomenal review. I am by no means a professional artist. I just got into digital artwork a year or so ago, but I plan on making it a hobby again. This is my first ever iPad and I am so glad I picked it up. Thank you for this!
I agree that Apple products are top-notch in the industry, but is it a problem if I use a computer with Windows? Apple products have been economically out of reach for me. For example, I have also found programs like Krita and Medibang to be very effective, and I work well with them. I also use CSP, but is it essential to own an Apple OS and Apple products? Are they crucial for work? Thank you for your response.
My (M2) Ipad Pro is the only Apple Product i have, i think it depends a lot on what u wanna do daily with it. For Data transfer between PC, IPad and Android Phone i use Google Drive. The only files i share are Pictures that i drew (in Procreate) so thats no Problem at all. CSP btw is on Ipad aswell.
Mate your content presentation is just stellar. Love the little touches like the red and green blip when you’re talking about the pencil clicks. A joy to watch.
Watching this video from my old but gold iPad pro 2020, and I'm not gonna upgrade for at least 2 years 😁 as a tattoo artist, it's more than enough to work, id say even basic iPad would still be doing the job thanks for the review, it was interesting🤗
Depends I’ve seen people make do and have had amazing work that looks professional. I agree that bigger screen is better but it is definitely not necessary.
Man, you're like a lemon pie. While having the acidity of the arguments to pull me back to the ground, you also have the sweet aftertaste of a caring person and all really well presented with design and animation features spreaded all over as the meringue. The humor is the crust for texture. Love your content!
One good thing to know is that the people at apple are apparently very into stationary and fountain pens. So the reason the apple pencil is such a good stylus is because it's designed by NERDS who wants it to resemble a good balanced pencil and not a thick weird wacom stylus. I do still wished the apple pencil had actual buttons, tactility is such a underrated feature our human fingers have - they are so sensitive and useful, we have such control over telling what is a click vs what is a squish. I really am not a fan of squeezing to click - that just screams arthritis speedrun to me. I just want a clicky clicky button on the apple pencil that I can feel and see.
Hm. All other artists reviewers appear to love the nanotextured glass as well as prefer it over any screen protector. I do however see the upside of being able to 1, protect the machine from damage, and 2, swap texture if you do not like it. But to me, the bigger question is concerning the OS-limitations a machine like this entails over everything I am used to, which can simply do pretty much anything I ask of it. I've owned both a Surface Pro 2013 and a Wacom Mobile Studio Pro 16", and neither of those machines did it for me. Clunky, heavy, unoptimized, etc. The Wacom is by far the least stable machine I have ever owned, constantly shutting off for no apparent reason, a scanner/camera with some form of hardware malfunction out of the box, attrocious support that didn't want to fix it, etc, and I've just had it. All I want is a slick machine that can live in my bag without being noticed. And maybe this is it, maybe I'll hate it as soon as I can't do that thing I need in a specific moment. Uncertain.
I'd love it if they did a click,hold,drag. Then you could have a gesture menu without tapping, but still have a tap menu for less used but still frequent and important functions
I have a question I havent seen answered anywhere, but I need to explain myself. The M2 iPad pro had hover but at the cost of accuracy and the lines are more wobbly, especially if you use a screen protector. This is because the electromagnetic mesh in the M2 iPad pro its "overclocked" for lack of a better word. Meaning it produces a stronger field so it can detect the pencil at a distance, and that produces noise in the pen signal. It varies from model to model, and I even had to return my first M2 iPad because the lines were so wobbly even without screen protector. I've read so many people talking about that issue online. The M1 iPad actually 'has' a hover feature, you can activate in the accessibility settings, its just useless for artists since the pencil must have very very close for it to detect, that's because the EM field is not too strong because its not necessary, as a result the lines were very smooth and nice. As many I sold my M1 iPad and went for the M2 because of the hover feature, but I really dislike the drawing experience on my M2 iPad from handwriting to actually drawing. I'm not a fan of software stabilization so I always leave it at 0 so that's not a solution for me. I'm actually thinking of selling this one and get an M1 again. Is that issue solved in the M4?
Could the nano-texture glass possibly create more friction with the apple pencil, giving a kind of "premium paperlike" experience when used without any additional screen protectors?
Thanks for making an actual decent review with the correct focus. All tech reviewers start by saying “well im not an artist” and im like WELL FKING GET ONE TO GIVE YOU THEIR FEEDBACK, IS NOT HARD, WE ARE EVERYWHERE.
NANO TEXTURE UPDATE!
please note that I may have spoken too soon with regards to “not getting Nano”
It might actually be great for artists specifically - I placed my order for it and will be sharing a video about it”nano vs paperlike” in about 3-4 weeks when it ships. I had a chance to test it at the Apple Store yesterday and really enjoyed the experience
Hii I’m surprised that there’s someone like you talking about all these details of Apple Pencil pro since people are just complaining negatively about it. Can you tell me all the apps that did you used of drawing in the video? Also hii from Puerto Rico
Finally the one review I was waiting for, just as I was getting sick of all the useless crap those tech review channels are making. Unlike you, they are totally not the target audience as these devices are only good for them to be reviewed over and over again
Yea I honestly cringe when I hear tech youtubers say:
“i don’t know who this is for”, or
“it’s still just an iPad, no where as useful as a Mac”, or
the worst one “still can’t video edit on this thing”
Like seriously, is it not obvious that the target audience is digital artists and paperless writers?
so tired of out of touch tech TH-camrs refusing to understand that the iPad is supposed to be an iPad and not a fucking Mac. all these idiots understand is video editing. anything other than that and theyre clueless. god forbid people use an iPad for anything other than video editing. "there's no pro software" my ass
@@Ken-dm5xti mean for that price? Those things are valid af. You could literally draw from an ipad released 5 yrs ago. I would be on your side if they are both priced relatively close. But it seems like you just wanted someone to kiss Apple's ass. You and the op's bias is so strong your isheep ass is showing.
@@Ken-dm5xtWell, they’re not wrong about "It’s still just an iPad, no where as useful as a Mac". iPadOS as of far is atrocious and a glorified iPhoneOS but bigger. I don’t own a computer other than the 12.9 iPad Pro pre-M1 model, so let me tell you about my struggles. There are many essential things for me that you cannot do on iPadOS like formatting your own USB drives, flash drives and USB accessories that suddenly stop working after you update the OS, a Files app that is very rudimentary, apps and downloads not running in the background or when the screen is off…etc.
Something has to change with the iPad Pro and iPadOS is the biggest stinking culprit. I mean it fulfills its promises as a professional design/art tool for me, but iPadOS lacks professionally in basic OS tasks that my cheap $150 android phone can do.
Other than that, I agree with everything else you said.
I’m old enough to recall the initial release of the iPad and thinking, FINALLY a device selfishly invented just for Artists, NO ONE ELSE! Good ol’ Steve Jobs! 🙌🏾
It was a dream come true for Art Narcissists like me!
I rolled my eyes every time TH-camrs called it a toy for not having features that THEY wanted 🙄
LOL my thought was always, “who cares?” Don’t buy it and move on! These things are for ARTISTS and your GRANDMA, who don’t need all the extra crap!
I was actually shocked when Apple finally upgraded to a decent filing system.
I was having so much fun with the art apps, that I really didn’t really know what I was missing until it arrived.
I thought maybe the so-called “regular users“ were right. Perhaps IPads aren’t really all they’re cracked up to be 🧐
But now, with the release of the new Apple Pencil and ZBrush, I’m DOUBING down!
If you don’t like iPads, WHO CARES, take a hike!
Grab whatever tablet that you DO like from whatever company, and call it a day 🤷🏾
So refreshing to see reviewers that really uses the ipad to its potential review the iPad pro instead of other tech reviewers that always says "this is not a pro machine","apple should put macos in the ipad", like they don't get what is the target audience of this product.
Professional artists overwhelmingly work in the Adobe software suite, and therefore are not the target audience for iPad Pro. Wacom tablets remain the solution for people actually working in the fields of animation, 3D modeling, graphic design, etc. As long as Apple divides the iPad and Mac ecosystems, and further subdivides the iPad ecosystem between base and "pro" users, the Apple Pencil will never take off as a viable alternative to Wacom. The consumer base of professional artists is extremely niche. Apple just wants to monopolize that space for itself, which is why they intentionally setup so many barriers to entry.
As an artist, I totally agree about the nano texture… not a fan. But unlike you, I always go for the 11” iPad Pro. Not only because I travel a lot, but because it’s just easier to hold when sketching while standing. To me it’s a true tablet. And even when I’m using it on a table, the 11” screen is plenty enough for me. But it’s all good. 👍 Whichever size iPad an artist uses, they’re amazing tools to create on!
Man, I've been waiting eagerly for this! It's hilarious how you made exactly the same points and comments I had thought about while watching non-artist iPad reviewers but couldn't quite put into words hahah
As an artist the 11 inch is also a great option. No overheating and very comfortable when drawing since it’s so light and easy to hold.
13 doesn’t overheat either
Watching this with a bowl of popcorn, drooling over the aesthetic and high quality, while waiting for the art police trickling in, who complain about you don't only use stone powder and a cave wall. Bring it on, people. I'm ready :D
Hehe - enjoy: PS, I’m still laughing about your GF dark souls comment yesterday
@@AdamDuffArt Lol, glad you're still having so much fun. I have to say, it's suspiciously quiet ... maybe it's Stardew Valley day. Have a good one and enjoy this fantastic piece of tech :)
Interesting - I happen to be playing Stardew Valley atm
@@AdamDuffArt Oh really? Really like it too. It is my cryptonite though, because the inner completionist wants me to collect ERRATHAAANG! It‘s a curse. Just like Story of Seasons. How far in are you? Oh, and will you play Black Myth Wukong and Star Wars Outlaws? We're quite excited for those.
You are proof in the pudding - the value I got from your video from an artist perspective was pretty significant beyond the main tech reviewers I've seen. I had no idea they kept the tap feature on the pencil, let alone the fact that you can trigger it from a distance! That also makes it the perfect presentation device for instructors on-site who are projecting their display. I still think they should redesign the old pencil to have these updates, its just so significant. Lots of people who aren't going to buy a new ipad for 3 years would definitely consider upgrading the pen imo. Not sure If I'll skip the M4 entirely, but I'm definitely sticking with my M2. I hope they make apple pencil hover OS-wide like a desktop cursor in WWDC. Now THAT would truly make it a must have feature.
yup, my M2 is still running strong. Seems like the i'll let the iPads marinate for a while, maybe the M5 or M6 will bring actual worth-spending-another-$2k-over changes.
I'll be sticking with my M2 iPad Pro then! Thanks for the review/impressions
I think the nano vs. glossy decision for artists isn't as straightforward as Adam claimed. Yes, you don't want to double-dip with diffusion by adding a matte cover on top of a matte screen, but not everybody wants the tactile grittyness of a paperlike - some just want a bit more minimalist line stability while drawing and gliding a hand over the screen.
For me I much prefer the nanotexture drawing experience so far compared to any screen protector I've ever tried (including paperlike and astropad). The loss to color saturation is also pretty marginal compared to my M2 glossy, and is worth it to have less ambient lighting glare indoors.
Exactly!
I think it’s worth it from what I saw in the store. You can see the image clearly even in sunlight.
Agreed. Not everyone likes the coarse feel of paper like covers. But that’s his opinion for himself. For example,e, there must be well over a dozen major sets of pencils from major art pencils manufacturers. I’ve found that each of those I’ve used over the years feel somewhat different. I would tend to pick up the ones I like a bit better, mist of the time. But other people will prefer the ones I like least. That’s why all of these companies exist.
The pencil update sounds so good, seems kinda worth upgrading
It’s doesn’t sound great at all. Most artists never use barrel rotation over glorified feature. Now if you use it that’s great. Most pros over the last decade have used Wacom pro pen with no barrel rotation
Great video. I’ve come to the conclusion that the average “tech reviewer” on TH-cam is a very basic individual who rarely had a professional career other than TH-cam. They’re not professional journalists, artists, engineers or designers of anything other than TH-cam. So they frequently look to each other for content and point of views. It’s an echo chamber. As a viewer it’s always refreshing to hear from artist and other professionals about how THEY use the tech. Great video.
00:05 😃 The reviewer, a professional artist, is excited to review the 2024 M4 iPad Pro, highlighting his extensive experience and unbiased perspective.
00:28 📱 The entry-level iPad Pro model with 256GB storage and 8GB RAM is deemed sufficiently powerful for professional use.
01:14 📏 The iPad Pro's thinness is notable, making it feel futuristic, although it can be confusing when selecting the correct iPad from a stand.
02:11 🎨 The new tandem OLED screen offers higher contrast, color accuracy, and lower power consumption compared to the previous mini-LED screen.
04:17 🔋 Improved battery life and exceptional image quality make the new display a significant upgrade, though older models remain highly capable.
05:17 🎨 Artists should avoid Nano texture screens to maintain the best image quality and color fidelity.
06:28 ⌨ The new Magic Keyboard for the iPad Pro is similar to Apple's Magic Keyboard, with improved stability but some back-heavy issues.
08:12 🧲 Magnet alignment for the new iPad Pro can be tricky due to internal changes, affecting stand compatibility.
09:25 ✏ The Apple Pencil Pro introduces a haptic pinch feature, enhancing functionality and user experience for professional artists.
13:02 🖌 The haptic pinch feature works well with grips and can be used in various artist grips, providing versatility in usage.
15:08 🎨 The haptic pinch is a press and hold function, ideal for tasks like using an eyedropper tool, improving workflow efficiency.
Well well - thank you for the synopsis - well done!
Thanks for the tip about squeeze with an artist grip!
will you ever try the new Wacom Moveink 13?? i like your way of reviewing haha, so wishing for the Wacom Moveink 13 review or maybe just your thought about it
I will recommend any ipad which supports apple pencil. You don't need hover that much
You might not but it’s definitely mandatory for painters - line artists not so much
I was watching the video and realised this guy looks like Adam Levine. Then I looked at the channel name and was like, "WTF!" 🤯
lol!
im waiting for 14 inch size or bigger ipad.
Apple please 🙏
Bigger is definitely better, but if they do make a bigger one, then at least go 16”
They aren’t gonna do that anytime soon. At that point it’s start to become less portable. At this point get a drawing tablet for pc
I wonder what you think of the M2 air 12.9” if you can’t afford the M4 pro. vs the M2 pro
Waited and waited and finally upgraded my 2018 Pro to a “base” model M4 Pro. Yes its pricey but i spend most of my time on my ipad. Can’t wait for the Procreate update. I’ve enrolled into a Udemy course and am feeling quite inspired to improve my digital art and get creative. Your content and presentation style is much appreciated.
For just painting iPad is okay. For quick file management and multi window usage for split screen display not the greatest. Honestly the best would be have apple and android apps with windows OS but have tablet hardware be iPad. I saw someone take the monitor off of their laptop and hookup the tablet to it with sidecar to have 2 operating systems they can run because iPad iOS is so bad lol
What should I buy 13 inch ipad air m2 or ipad pro 11 inch m4 for digital art and animation???? Does 11 inch ipad pro feels small when drawing???? Pls reply
Definitely the 13” M2 - bigger + hover is the best option for artists
11:00 this corporate apologia for apple's siloing of their product lines so cringey. Lol how are "artists" this much of sell outs? I guess its the narcissism of thinking you are this special gifted person who needs proprietary tools.
I can still appreciate Samsung including the S Pen in the box with their Tab S9 series. I have both now, so I’m about to find out how well the Apple Pencil Pro can compete. Pencil just got here though, so it’s charging while I watch this video.
11:55 "...accident double tap..." - you can just turn off the double tap in Settings > Apple Pencil 😅
That’s what I usually ended up doing - but the grip offers both benefits
Apparently the OLED option has the potential burn-in issue: the appearance of permanent ghost images after some time (like every OLED on earth.. also QD-OLEDs (but not QLED (like in some Huion's tablets), those are fine, different tech, no burn-in)) and the "remedies" not always work, neither applicable with every workflow.... and the high PWM on the M4 iPad Pro produces a screen flicker not perceptible by everyone (but when recorded for video on youtube it can be super obvious/obnoxious) but which for quite some people is a serious problem. not sure how healthy that is even for people who don't "perceive" it. In general I avoid high PWM issues in any monitor I purchase (even more than I avoid OLED). To what degree these two things will show up... time will tell.
But while I'm more of a desktop PC based artist (with Eizo monitors, best in the world - even compared to Apple's- for color and accuracy in general) I am considering the new 13 inches iPad AIR for 'on the go' painting - not really for full outdoor, of course, that's the advantage of the OLED option, due to the gazillion of nits- as the new M2 AIR still uses the lovely LED (IPS), has the M2, which is plenty for painting, no real need for M4, supports the new Pencil Pro, and has the 13 inches option now (finally not only in Pro). But pricey... 928$ when adding the Pencil Pro and minimal specs. And 11" is too tiny for painting. Still dreaming of some Android tablet company, or Apple, to come up with a 17" version with pen support.
That’s not really an issue with modern OLED’s especially the tandem version
South india should stop fight films very boring
I'm so glad that apple is taking all this consideration for artist is such a big deal for people that love tech and also art!!! I will get my soon and I can wait to use it.
17:46 Forgot to add the link to that video (not a problem, though).
Me, I hope Apple decides for once to produce a 17 inches (or bigger) ipad. Yep, no company is doing it, but even more reason for going for it (on-brand, with Apple). It would be a tad better for illustration, comics, design, photography, etc. I would make the swap from Samsung tablets (although my main tool is/will always be the desktop).
Awesome review! How does the M4 iPad fit in the Darkboard? I'm curious if the thinness might affect the fit.This is one thing I haven't heard anyone mention yet
I've got the 11' pro and pencil pro two days ago, my first ipad and first time in procreate.
While the FEELING is still better on my cintiq in regards to screen and stylus ipad is suprisingly better and more comfortable in every other aspect. I'll look into a paperlike screen protector maybe then it could beat out the cintiq.
It's expensive but I'm quite pleased to have it with these amazing specs for years to come - def worth it, the pro at least, I wouldn't pay the money for the air and it's 60Hz LED
I've been waiting for the new iPads to finally upgrade my 2019 one. Yes, not cheap by any means but if you're the type who counts on a straight 5-6 year run, at least, off Apple hardware -- then the ROI improves dramatically. And right now is the best time to do such an investment.
@@alzamonart I'm glad to hear it, I'm very much the type of person who likes to keep my tech for years
Thanks. I was considering the Nano texture but I like a paper textured screen protector. And from what I've heard, the texture on the Nano is kind of gummy. It gives resistance but it doesn't have any texture. 50% of the artists that have tried it didn't like it and the other ones liked it so it's hard to tell it's a preference thing.
Waaaiiit, can you connect the keyboard to the drawing app?????!!!? Is this possible for Procreate as well or is it only in that app you use? :d
That’s a game changer!
Absolutely - just pair any Bluetooth keyboard to your iPad and you’re good to go
I disagree about nano texture , i got both first and returned my standard glass after dew days. Ipad with a Paper like screen protector looks way way worse than the nano texture one . Nano texture is also a joy to draw on . I would also argue nano texture display looks better most of the time.
I agree with you. Please tell me more about how it looks in direct sunlight? I want the nano texture so bad.
Has adam tried Clip Studio Paint on Ipad? Its basically full photoshop aswell
I have but I’m honestly not a huge fan of it - that said, many of my students love it
I specifically waited for this review. I saw so many other reviews from non-artists that just didn't understand so many features. Your review is excellent and really helped me in deciding that this will be the first iPad I finally invest in.
Also, I know you're not a huge fan of Procreate but when you select a drawing tool in Procreate, it casts a shadow on the screen in the form of that tool. For example, the ink pen's shadow looks like an ink pen, and when you rotate the Apple Pencil Pro, the shadow rotates with it. Totally not necessary but cool nonetheless.
Thank you!
Regarding using an iPad as more traditional pen input device, I’d love to know your thoughts on the Astropad Slate app.
Tried it at the apple store, the nano glass was blurry w a matte finish, its only for super bright environments and not worth it
The pinch feature of the pro pencil didnt activate consistently, maybe thats me not being familiar w it but i found myself immediately ignoring it entirely and instead just tapping the screen icons directly. It feels like a capacitive sensor backed up by the rumble motor to simulate 'interaction', id much rather a mechanical switch that clicks.
The m4 is a nice device overall but the new pencil doesnt feel that different, ill stick w the 2nd gen ipad pro from 2016; the price for m4 pro is way too high.
Hmm, maybe there was something wrong with- in my case it’s been 100% reliable
Lies lol. I saw the TH-cam videos saying it was blurry which is a lie. I zoomed in on text and everything and it’s just as sharp 😂
I ordered the new Ipad Air with the pencil pro the day of their event. So far i cannot be happy enough and working as concept artist professionally with it, i would HIGHLY recommend it to any artists. The Air can do everything the pro can with "mostly" no differences that you will notice in any of your work and if you need more then you can use an actual computer to do the heavy HEAVY lifting.
Aside from saving hundreds of dollars the Air can do everything you will ever need it to. The greatest thing out of this whole new line for me personally is the pen, the pen features have been a GAME CHANGER with the haptic feedback and squeeze has been so damn nice to have not only physically but mentally. If you dont want to fork out the full price for the pro, highly suggest going for the new air.
Do you not mind the lack of 120Hz refresh rate?
@@DejayClayton Why would i care about the refresh rate? The difference is negligible.
@@imclueless9875 maybe to you?
Would you reccomend getting a 11 inch m4 pro or a 13 inch m2 pro? if you had to choose between them. is the screen size or the pencil pro more important/nice to have?
For artwork - always go for the bigger option
@@AdamDuffArt alright. Ill have to see if I can squeeze the 13 inch m4 into the budget or if ill go for a 13 inch m2
Hy, casual drafter and future Tattoo artist here! (Drawing almost every day)
I´m thinking about upgrading to m4 (Currently owning an 2018 iPad pro). Would you say it is a huge leap between those two regarding technology and worth upgrading? If yes, should I go with 1 TB option? (Cuz i´d be using it for the next 5 years or so.)
I don´t wanna spend money on something that has only some minor tweaks changes where I´m not gonna notice a difference at all...
I do t think that 1TB is necessary - I generally use iCloud and you can always connect an external USB-C drive if you need, Apple overcharges for their memory
As for performance, for my work, the M2 with hover is essential, but if you focus primarily on line art then it might not be as important
The 2018 might do the job just fine - I’d only upgrade if it’s not a reliable enough iPad for your current needs
@@AdamDuffArt First of all, thank you for the fast response and a very usefull info.
Okay, I think my iPad is still reliable for the amount of work I do so I`m not going to upgrade just yet. Thank you one more time and have a nice day!
Great video, and thanks for sharing! Professional artist here as well. As an alternative to the M4 Pro people should seriously look at the M2 Ipad Air with Apple Pencil Pro support. M2 is plenty powerful for most users. The new pencil is a game changer IMO, but an OLED display is a nice to have not necessarily a must have. Our team upgraded to 2 of the new Airs as opposed to a previous generation of Ipad Pro. So far very stoked, just patiently waiting for Adobe Fresco and Procreate to release their updates!🤙 Happy drawing!
Awesome. As a tattoo artist but a long time digital artist I’m very excited to see how zbrush performs on the ipad
I’m confident it’ll be awesome
This is the review I’ve been looking for!
This is fascinating, I love your reviews, you make them so accessible ☺☺
I wished they just gave us more than only one Pencil Pro Version. They could make Money for the older Ipad Pro´s too, but they want us so badly to upgarde. But yeah its still the Company that only offers bigger Storage for a lot more Money or a Cloud sub, and the new Screen Texture for there pricy 1 TB + M4´s. Its rly sad to see.
Nonetheless nice to see your take on the new M4 and that u like the new Features! Happy painting!
I just love to see someone that’s really gets who the new iPads and pens is for. I salute you Adam.
Always a joy watching your videos 🙏🏻
Really wanna upgrade to this from my 6th gen ipad. What are your opinions on ipad air 13 inch, for me personally, the only thing bothering me is the difference in display, otherwise i guess air is perfect value for money.
Apple fan boys: OMG look how thin it is!!
Artists: I have made art with paper and CRT monitors... I don't care how thin it is. I mean Wacom Cintiqs are still considered the holy grail of digital art tech and as big as it is it ONLY let's you draw using software that needs to be connected to a PC. Apple Users and Apple Artists are entirely different demographics and it is funny to see how each side takes a stand on one feature versus another. I also use EL Display hub to use my M1 iPad Pro as a display tablet for my PC's Photoshop, just because. Eventhough I also own a 20" XP-Pen Pro.
Finally a useful review. I’ve been humming and hawing over what to buy and I think I might forgo the newest model and get an older m2 based on your review. It doesn’t seem like this newest one really offers enough to justify the price just yet. Maybe when the price drops after the release of the next one. Cheers
Thanks for the review! Best review I’ve seen as an artist. Looks like I’ll just get the prev gen M2 pro since it has great value right now. Sucks that the pencil pro doesn’t work with previous gens. That really sucks.
Sidecar is working better with the usb cable connected to the mac. Stable connection and all. What I am wondering though, do all the pen stuff work over sidecar. Hover and all? I am wondering if I update my old ipad pro, or get one of the new wacom tablets, like wacom movink. I know the price difference is huge. Not talking about price :)
Yeah i'm not buying the "we had to move the inside parts and now the pencil is solely compatible with the newest devices" story, definitely done deliberately.
I'm enjoying my M2 and was excited for a pencil upgrade but this is just stupid, literally the same bs as with the pencil hover feature being just softwarelocked only to be usable on m2's, now they just took it a step further.
I was going to get the 1tb version for the extra Ram. I'm glad that I watched your video because it's extremely expensive if you go with that model. Like $3,000 if you live in Canada like I do. And you hardly get much of a upgrade in performance. I would only spend that if they made it bigger than 13 in which is still kind of small for an art display. I want at least 16. Samsung basically has a 16 but I've tried their stuff before. It doesn't feel as nice as iPad.
Would i still get a good experience for digital art on the iPad air 6? It seems it only has an iPS panel, and I'm having doubts if it has poor color accuracy? Anyone have suggestions?
You don´t recommend nanotexture for impact to image quality but recommend adding textured matte screenprotector causing same thing to image quality..
A screen protector costs 30 bucks not an extra 100… plus you can take it off anytime unlike the permanent nano texture. Just look at screen protectors used for over a year with the Apple Pencil it’s not pretty
You don’t want to use Nano Texture AND a drawing screen protector at the same time - that doubles up the diffusion layers
Nano only impacts light diffusion but it doesn’t offer a paper like texture for drawing - so I don’t recommend it unless you aren’t someone planning on drawing on your iPad
@@AdamDuffArt I will say, I popped into the apple store just to A/B test the glossy screen and nano-texture display, and I actually found it to be notably better for drawing, to the point I preferred it to a paperlike screen protector.
It's incredibly subjective on what's better and I'd NOT blanket recommend it, it's a lot less toothy and feels quite soft vs a paperlike screen protector. Reminds me of a traditional drawing tablet type texture you'd get on an intuos!
It DOES suck that it's only available on 1TB and up models though, not really excited to shovel out £2200 just for that, although it might mean that there'll be some newer, more exciting features available!
@@AdamDuffArtI tried the nano texture in the store and if you look side by side you can barely tell the blacks aren’t as dark. Imagine you’re outside or near a window using the glossy screen you won’t be able to see shit. The nano texture pros outweigh the cons. Maybe if you’re working on pro work for a studio it’s not worth it but as a freelance artist selling your own work I doubt you will need that level of pinpoint blacks.
Great video thank you. Informative and Entertaining both. I ordered the M4 11 iPad just yesterday.
Like you I decided to trade in my old iPad, a 1st Generation iPad Pro which has served me well.
Really looking forward to the new iPad, the great tandem OLED screen and the new pencil (what terrific technology).
4:26 is it LG, Samsung or ?, OLED tech?
8:52 charging pro can be aligned otherwise all other stands will need to reorganize where magnets are.
14:28 Does Apple Pencil Pro use bluetooth?
17:23 i prefer pencil shape as is, because different grip shapes and feel for different people.
Got a brand new m2 ipad pro 11” 128gb for $670, I am not sure if i got it on a great deal since i am not that techie. For me this will be my 5yrs to 7 yrs ipad.
really thanks Adam for this review.... i stay with ipad pro 2018....When I have the money I think I'll opt for the upgrade😍
When U were holding the ipad on the new case & U were pointing at it w/ the apple pencil announcing “Hey U can even draw on this too!”, for some strange reason - for a hot second, I thought U were saying that one can now draw on the trackpad w/ the pencil like a tablet too. Clearly I was waaay off lol
Thank you so much for this review. I’ve decided it’s better to get the standard screen over nano-texture because I prefer the double OLED colors. I can just put on a magnetic screen protector for drawing and then remove it when I’m not drawing and I want to do other things like media consumption. I already hold on to my tech devices for a long time because tech isn’t cheap (for me it’s usually 6+ years). I’m planning on getting this iPad M4 and will be holding on to it for many years. I do animation and 3D work so I will opt for the higher storage for the higher RAM for animation and 3D modeling workflow on the iPad just in case. 1 and 2TB options have more RAM, which may be good for being able to do more layers/tracks for animation, higher resolution for drawing and being able to achieve more details on a 3D model (aka more polygons).
I’m definitely in just the artist hobbyist camp but love your reviews.
Been waiting to upgrade my 2018 pro and although I don’t neeeeeeed anything in the m4 pros other than a higher base storage I think it’s finally time. But I’m still waiting on Zugu to make their new cases and to see if the new iOS update brings anything crazy that would warrant the higher ram in the 1tb version.
You forgot to mention the rotate function. 😉
True! But I’m planning a follow up when apps update to support it (and the pinch)
my only issue as an artist is i feel like im obligated to get a case to protect my ipad. i really like the apple keyboard, but it doesnt feel like its enough to protect my ipads back case and itll get scratched so easily. i feel like having a foldable stand is the way to go, but having my ipad all barebones naked sitting on it is making me scream internally that it could get scratched by something...i wish they had thin cases that were still able to let the ipad use the magic keyboard with it on :( my issue is also the apple pencil pro and having to needing to buy it with the new ipad. my previous pencil is still in a great condition and i hate having to buy yet another new accessory with the new ipad.
Appreciate all the coverage!
Was a bit bummed when you mentioned using it via sidecar for photoshop wasn’t that great of an experience.
That’s exactly what I was hoping M4 would be able to do nicely.
Thanks again for your review!
It isn’t bad at all -
Experiment with it if you can, it seems pretty reliable
@@AdamDuffArt will do! Thank you
Best review I’ve seen touched all the bases with the exception of battery life on the pencil or ipad that said might be time to replace this M1 ipad
Apple didn't invent tandem OLED, but they are the first to adopt it for a portable consumer electronic device.
I’m absolutely loving this review even though I’m only 1/3 in. 😂 It’s so perfect.
BTW sidecar gets a really good reliable connections if you connect it through usb cable, it tells you it will be switching to usb connection and then its all good or you can just turn off wifi and bluetooth on the ipad and the wireless connection to your mac becomes better.
I received mine last Thursday to replace my M1 iPad Pro. It's much smoother for drawing at a high resolution in Procreate and the pencil is a nice update. The haptics actually makes the pencil double-tap to switch between brush and eraser useful. I was always hitting it by accident before and not knowing that I switched between them. I ended up disabling double-tap, but now turned it back on because I can actually feel when it switches. Also, I recommend smooth glass and no screen protector, but that's just my preference.
You can disable the double tap in the parameters
Yep, as I usually have
Awesome down to earth review from somebody who knows what they are talking about. Just what I was after! Many thanks.....
Great review! I’m saving up for a new iPad… I have a 2018 now that still works for me… Artstudio pro you say… I will have to check that out!
Squeeze feature is feeling good. Hoping to get a 'double squeeze' setting in Procreate, similar to double clicking a mouse.
I love my M2 iPad Pro and intend on keeping it. However l am highly tempted to get one of the Airs just to use the Apple Pencil Pro
I wouldn’t upgrade for that alone honestly - the M2 iPad Pro is awesome and has all the NEEDED functionality
@@AdamDuffArt very true. I mean, IIRC, the only stylus I’ve ever seen support rotation before this was the Wacom Art Pen and they haven’t made that for a looooooong time. I’ve never used one with rotation and honestly don’t know what of my go to brushes would actually benefit from that
Thanks to hover on my M2 Pro, I was able to see the brush stamp in an app like Procreate and changing the hand position, I can fake what it would look like with rotation and there’s so few brushes that I could take advantage of it
I have to confess that I'm a bit bitter that the Pencil Pro isn't compatible with the M2 iPad Pro. 😿
Phenomenal review. I am by no means a professional artist. I just got into digital artwork a year or so ago, but I plan on making it a hobby again. This is my first ever iPad and I am so glad I picked it up. Thank you for this!
I agree that Apple products are top-notch in the industry, but is it a problem if I use a computer with Windows? Apple products have been economically out of reach for me. For example, I have also found programs like Krita and Medibang to be very effective, and I work well with them. I also use CSP, but is it essential to own an Apple OS and Apple products? Are they crucial for work? Thank you for your response.
My (M2) Ipad Pro is the only Apple Product i have, i think it depends a lot on what u wanna do daily with it.
For Data transfer between PC, IPad and Android Phone i use Google Drive. The only files i share are Pictures that i drew (in Procreate) so thats no Problem at all.
CSP btw is on Ipad aswell.
Lowering "Bloom"? Not sure how you are deinging blooming, but OLED, all OLED, has zero "bloom".
Mini LED has no noticeable bloom. The only bloom you will see is if you take a picture with your phone 😂
Thank you for the review. I am using an iPad Pro 2019 and am thinking of upgrading it.
Mate your content presentation is just stellar. Love the little touches like the red and green blip when you’re talking about the pencil clicks. A joy to watch.
Not 17"? Fail!!!
True true!
Great video!
The pencil breakdown/features portion was VERY helpful
What? Like eeeeveryone was talking about how thin it is. And that it’s not good like that.
Watching this video from my old but gold iPad pro 2020, and I'm not gonna upgrade for at least 2 years 😁 as a tattoo artist, it's more than enough to work, id say even basic iPad would still be doing the job
thanks for the review, it was interesting🤗
You do t need to worry about brush size if you’re drawing tattoo concepts or cleaning them up - you’re fine as is
The " omg look how thin this" is made me laugh, haha! Subscribed 😅
Never use iPad or other small screen devices for professional work, that's just waste of time
Depends I’ve seen people make do and have had amazing work that looks professional. I agree that bigger screen is better but it is definitely not necessary.
Man, you're like a lemon pie. While having the acidity of the arguments to pull me back to the ground, you also have the sweet aftertaste of a caring person and all really well presented with design and animation features spreaded all over as the meringue. The humor is the crust for texture. Love your content!
That is a very lovely analogy - well said :)
I like this guy!! So refreshing!!
Dang I already got the m4 and you just sold me on it again 😆
Issues with grain? People seem to be complaining
One good thing to know is that the people at apple are apparently very into stationary and fountain pens. So the reason the apple pencil is such a good stylus is because it's designed by NERDS who wants it to resemble a good balanced pencil and not a thick weird wacom stylus. I do still wished the apple pencil had actual buttons, tactility is such a underrated feature our human fingers have - they are so sensitive and useful, we have such control over telling what is a click vs what is a squish. I really am not a fan of squeezing to click - that just screams arthritis speedrun to me. I just want a clicky clicky button on the apple pencil that I can feel and see.
Hm. All other artists reviewers appear to love the nanotextured glass as well as prefer it over any screen protector. I do however see the upside of being able to 1, protect the machine from damage, and 2, swap texture if you do not like it. But to me, the bigger question is concerning the OS-limitations a machine like this entails over everything I am used to, which can simply do pretty much anything I ask of it.
I've owned both a Surface Pro 2013 and a Wacom Mobile Studio Pro 16", and neither of those machines did it for me. Clunky, heavy, unoptimized, etc. The Wacom is by far the least stable machine I have ever owned, constantly shutting off for no apparent reason, a scanner/camera with some form of hardware malfunction out of the box, attrocious support that didn't want to fix it, etc, and I've just had it. All I want is a slick machine that can live in my bag without being noticed. And maybe this is it, maybe I'll hate it as soon as I can't do that thing I need in a specific moment. Uncertain.
I’m on a small vacation but I get back home tonight and my iPad Pro m4 and new Apple Pencil pro will be there waiting for me… I’m so excited.
I'd love it if they did a click,hold,drag. Then you could have a gesture menu without tapping, but still have a tap menu for less used but still frequent and important functions
I have a question I havent seen answered anywhere, but I need to explain myself.
The M2 iPad pro had hover but at the cost of accuracy and the lines are more wobbly, especially if you use a screen protector.
This is because the electromagnetic mesh in the M2 iPad pro its "overclocked" for lack of a better word. Meaning it produces a stronger field so it can detect the pencil at a distance, and that produces noise in the pen signal. It varies from model to model, and I even had to return my first M2 iPad because the lines were so wobbly even without screen protector. I've read so many people talking about that issue online.
The M1 iPad actually 'has' a hover feature, you can activate in the accessibility settings, its just useless for artists since the pencil must have very very close for it to detect, that's because the EM field is not too strong because its not necessary, as a result the lines were very smooth and nice.
As many I sold my M1 iPad and went for the M2 because of the hover feature, but I really dislike the drawing experience on my M2 iPad from handwriting to actually drawing. I'm not a fan of software stabilization so I always leave it at 0 so that's not a solution for me. I'm actually thinking of selling this one and get an M1 again.
Is that issue solved in the M4?
Definitely prefer art studio pro on iPad Pro.
Could the nano-texture glass possibly create more friction with the apple pencil, giving a kind of "premium paperlike" experience when used without any additional screen protectors?
Thanks for making an actual decent review with the correct focus. All tech reviewers start by saying “well im not an artist” and im like WELL FKING GET ONE TO GIVE YOU THEIR FEEDBACK, IS NOT HARD, WE ARE EVERYWHERE.