Plūrimās agō grātiās omibus apud Cultura Clásica quī mē invītārunt ut hanc ōrātiunculam habērem in ēventū eōrum XVIII Jornadas de Cultura Clásica, quī habitus est 4-6 Apr. MMXXIV. Ad plūra dē conventibus librīsque ex Cultura Clásica vidē: culturaclasica.com *My sincerest thanks to Cultura Clásica for having invited me to give this talk at their 18th Jornadas de Cultura Clásica event in Lugo, Spain, 4-6 April 2024. To learn more about Cultura Clásica books and events, see their website at: culturaclasica.com* Dē Parnsassō Sōlī Ascendendō: Quōmodo Autodidactus Sermōnem Latīnum Graecumque Discere Possit *Climbing Parnassus Solo: How the Autodidact Can Learn Latin and Greek* In hāc ōrātiunculā, ascēnsiōnem meam persequor in Monte Parnassō, quī ab auctōre Thrāciō Lee Simmons in librō "Climbing Parnassus" (MMII) per trānslātiōnem dīcitur studium Graecī Latīnīque sermōnis: quōmodo ipse litterās Latīnās et Graecās didicerim, atque etiam quibus methodīs etiam hodiē ūtar in ambābus linguīs melius nōscendīs. *In this talk, I relate my journey up the proverbial Mount Parnassus, used by author Tracy Lee Simmons in his book "Climbing Parnassus" (2002) as a metaphor for the trek to learn Ancient Greek and Latin: how I learned Latin and Ancient Greek, and the methods I employ to this day as I continue to study them.* 🦂 Support my work on Patreon: www.patreon.com/LukeRanieri 📚 Luke Ranieri Audiobooks: luke-ranieri.myshopify.com 🤠 Take my course LATIN UNCOVERED on StoryLearning, including my original Latin adventure novella "Vir Petasātus" learn.storylearning.com/lu-promo?affiliate_id=3932873 🦂 Sign up for my Latin Pronunciation & Conversation series on Patreon: www.patreon.com/posts/54058196 🏛 Ancient Greek in Action · Free Greek Lessons: th-cam.com/play/PLU1WuLg45SixsonRdfNNv-CPNq8xUwgam.html 👨🏫 My Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata playlist · Free Latin Lessons: th-cam.com/video/j7hd799IznU/w-d-xo.html ☕ Support my work with PayPal: paypal.me/lukeranieri 📚 Luke Ranieri Audiobooks: luke-ranieri.myshopify.com Join the channel to support it: th-cam.com/channels/RllohBcHec7YUgW6HfltLA.htmljoin 🌅 ScorpioMartianus apud Instagram: instagram.com/lukeranieri/ 🦁 Legio XIII Latin Language Podcast: th-cam.com/users/LegioXIII 🎙 Hundres of hours of Latin & Greek audio: lukeranieri.com/audio 👕 Merch: teespring.com/stores/scorpiomartianus 🦂 www.ScorpioMartianus.com 🦅 www.LukeRanieri.com
I’m so happy for this guy (who, by the way, was also an Army helicopter pilot!). I have been following him for so many years and he is now literally a world expert and renowned Latin linguist. Such a cool success story.
What I like about Latin that I still get the meaning of the sentences. Some less some more. But still just shows how much Latin in modern languages still lives on.
Qué lujo tenerlo a Luke en este evento tan importante!! Soy un autodidacta argentino que hace unos años, buscando en internet, encontró a Luke, gran inspiración para mi aprendizaje del latín. Con sus vídeos aprendí, entre otras cosas fundamentales del idioma, la correcta pronunciación de latín clásico. Luke ha sido una referencia en mi camino recorrido con el método de Orberg LLPSI.
As a native Spanish speaker, I understand 60-70% of Latin off the bat spoken by Luke, it sure does sounds a lot like a blend of Spanish with Italian along with its own structure and rules. The sibilant "s" is very noticeable in Latin, something Spanish inherited from Latin. It's no secret that speakers of Spanish/Italian are the closest to Latin in terms of phonology. It still amazes me how much we still use/say in Spanish that we've inherited from our mother language. La lengua latina siempre vivira cuando hay personas que aun quieren hablarla y estudiarla.
@@kardzYT I read Lingua Latina Per se Illustrata. I also did a few things that worked when I was learning English: I listened to speeches and repeated aloud, and I learned poetry by heart. Poetry is especially wonderful as you can repeat it aloud whenever you're alone: taking a walk, cooking, in the shower, whenever. It's also very important for Latin, as the rhythm is very important. I was never a fan of poetry before I started studying it to perfect my English, but I've since developed a deep love for it. I only know a few Latin poems by heart so far (A Leuconoe, Odi et amo, and the first four lines of the Aeneid), but I'd say my pronunciation is quite good compared to my level. I also keep a diary in Latin. I make sure I write something (almost) every day, even if it's just a short sentence. I still don't speak very well, though, and I've got a long way to go.
@@yel292 Do you read the book yourself or watch luke's series? and if you read it yourself would you recommend getting the book yourself because i am also currrently learning latin trough "Lingva latina per se Ilvstrata" with luke' videoes but i sometimes wonder if it would be more effective to have the book myself aswell
@@Happy-oj8tc I have my own copy, which I'd recommend for you too. I don't know about you, but personally I like to have a physical copy. It feels more real than over the screen, and you can make notes in the margins. I sometimes watch Luke's videos about chapters I've already read. At the end, there's a dictionary, but instead of containing translations, it mentions the chapter/row where the word first was used, so you have to go back and figure it out from the context. I like this a lot. I should also mention that after each chapter, there's an explanation of the grammar and a section of exercises for you to solve. Sometimes I skip this part, though. 😅
@@yel292 Ty for answering, and alright seems like i am going to buy my own copy :). also smart way to make the dictionary tbh since it will just hammer in the words alot more than just having a translation. But yeah again thank you for answering its helped me a bunch and have a good day :)
I admire you Lucius, right now acquiring Latin occupies most of my time, also learning as an autodidact. Hope to be writing comments in Latin soon. This video has just given me so much motivation and energy because I know that eventually I will make it and bring this language alive in my mouth once more. Thanks for your work 🤩👍🏻
Tasted memorizing prayers five or six years ago. As I find no time to learn more, I fall back on what I have learned(I estimate ny vocabulary at about 5000 words), but more importantly, the structure of the declentions and conjugations come to mind as my mind seems to want to express itself in this language, the positioning ove words within sentences...kind of like the cake in the oven that wants to rise. The storehouse of Latin in the mind seems to take on a life of its own and wants to grow. Interesting and captivating at the same time. Thanks for your videos. Very encouraging.
This was beyond helpful! It’s rather hard to find Latin spoken in the way you speak it. I have a much easier time finding speakers to imitate in French or Spanish. So, thank you for this, your content has helped me grow exponentially.
@@ScorpioMartianusand many more years friend! You’ve been incredibly helpful in my goal to learn classical Latin. Definitely planning on joining your Patreon once the family settles in (PCS season 😅)
Anglicé dícó: Last night I read a little bit of the first part of Cicero's Pró Archiá on the Latin Library website before going to bed, out of curiosity. Naturally I didn't understand EVERYTHING, nor the references to a lot of the illustrious men of the republic that he kept referencing (I am still slowly brushing up on my Greco-Roman history). But the fact that so many words and whole phrases jumped out at me, that I could understand at lest the gist of what he was saying, gave me hope and further motivation to keep on going. It really is an incredible feeling being able to read the very words of a flesh and blood historical figure from more than 2,000 years ago and just that very awareness alone is one of the rewards of learning both classical languages to fluency. I am still working through both the English and Italian Athenaze, as well as some of the other books in your Greek spreadsheet that I actually own physical copies of, even a PDF version of Thrasymachus. I am using as much of your audio for all these materials as possible and am of course still pushing through 'Familia Rómána" and enjoying the process, rather than considering it a chore. No matter how many times I've read and re-read the same chapters of the latter book over and over again, I cannot help but appreciate the richness of the material, which even Irene Regini lauds in her Satura Lanx YT channel, and the labor of love that took X years for Professor Ørberg to make it. I am also a member of two Telegram chats moderated by Rossano "Roxas" Fragale, with whom you are more than acquainted with, for Latin and Ancient Greek. I also often, to this day, still join the weekly Latin and Greek chats on Zoom that you yourself first invited me to back in 2019.
Wow. As someone who "learned" Latin through two painful years of Wheelock in college...to say that this is incredibly impressive is an understatement. I am going back and starting with Lingua Latina, hoping that I can get through it and Roma Aeterna in a year (or less) as I am studying classical languages in college again. This time, I hope to go all the way through PhD, and I really want to be a master of at least Greek and Latin. I don't want to struggle with the awful translation method of Wheelock and others, but I want to get to a point where I can read anything fluently (at least with a dictionary at hand, if nothing else). You are incredibly inspiring and I appreciate all your content!
You’re awesome and inspirational. Started learning Latin and reading lingua Latina book and watching your videos. Thank you! Do you offer private lessons?
I like sometimes opening his videos when they're suggested to me and just see how much my brain understands without paying attention to it. I particularly like it in this format because the prosody and nasality feels very familiar to me as a Brazilian, even though my accent in Portuguese sounds will never get close to the quality of this man's "radio" voice. Haha
Optima órátiúncula! Mihi valde placuit, ut semper! Ad rísum movistí mé et inspírátiónem mihi causás pró ad montem Parnassum amplius ascéndere! Fereque omnia intelléxí sine subtitulís! Haec est meá quidem opinióné máxima tuárum órátiúnculárum!
I think it's very important to understand how the grammar of a language works, even before you start learning, because it allows you to understand the logic of the language. Then it is much easier to insert the details into your ready-made "scaffold" as you learn them. Another thing: it is not necessarily true that grammar gets in the way. It is also not necessarily true that it is impossible to think about inflection at a normal conversational pace and deliver the right ending at the right time. It takes a lot of energy, but given sufficient brain bandwidth and processing speed, it can be done.
Optima est haec ōrātiō! Nōn licet omnibus, sed plērīsque discipulīs hunc modum aptum esse arbitror quī eōs ad Parnassum, ut dīxistī, dūcat. Et ego multās sententiās atque versūs ēdiscō et postrēmō memoriter recitō quō facilius linguās discam quās volō (quārum sunt permultī, hahae). Lēctiō intensīva quā autodidactica ūtor cum nōn jam tīrō linguam discō est māteriās ad discendum ipsa (quasi magistra sim) mōlīrī; eō modō nova vocābula nōn modo semel ē dictiōnāriō quaerō, sed etiam linguā ipsā explicō et memoriae facilius mandō.
@@ScorpioMartianus By the way. I bought Familia Romana second edition via Amazon but didn’t like the letters impression. The first edition in black and white is much better in this regard. It seems as if the letters in the colour edition are an image instead of simple proper impression. Do you confirm? (Probably the word “impression” is not the correct one but I don’t recall the right term now.)
@@francophone. Yes. It looks the page was photocopied rather than printed. The letters are pixelated. I’ll return the book if I find the first edition on sale, even if it is some used book.
Thank you so much for this great talk! I use a lot of the methods that you have mentioned and my favourite tool is the app "Legentibus: Learn Latin". I re-read the ebooks (luckily there are a lot so it doesn't get boring 😅) and listen to the audio books while "shadowing" the voice of the reader. I will try to combine it more with your recommendations (seven step method etc.) and create a learning plan. Do you use the app as well?
I learned the paradigms while I was in the middle school (brazil), I was using the dowling method unconsciently, because latin, well it is just so gorgeous. At confirmo hactenus linguam latinam classicam esse saepe difficilem intellectu.
You mentioned "Dominus Anulorum"! If only it was translated into good Latin! I wanted to read Hobbit iterum iterumque but they say its latinitas malam esse. :(
Studens in Uniuersitate Conimbricense (Portugaliae) sum et hodie tuae pelliculam oratiunculae uidi. Quam laetus essem, si oratiunculam etiam in hac academia haberes! Fortasse nos aliquando te inuitare huc possimus.
Hi Luke! Thanks for your work all these years it's such a great help in learning Latin for me! I was wondering, in your recent videos you don't do elisions anymore, is it for clarity purpose or did you find something in your research that make you question their usage in regular speach? Thank you!
I’m really glad to hear that, thanks. I most certainly do still do all the elisions, synaloephe, and sandhi: th-cam.com/video/wiadWCPJlaI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=P2k6OwbzzKPERSsJ When I gave this talk, I was aware that it would be difficult for my audience to follow me since very few of them had been exposed to spoken Latin (mine was the only talk of the conference given in Latin, the rest were in Spanish). Thus I did indeed to a lot of staccato speaking to help make my speech clearer, if decidedly less natural.
I want to ask a quastion, did you do Toastmasters in America, or did you learn on the go to public speach? if not ,wil you try toastmasters once? PS: I like what you are doing, I did buy and try Lingua latina, but after the 3the chapter intrest are a little gone (Dont realy know what to do with it anymore?
Luke, what is your opinion on learning with macrons? Specifically, do you think they are necessary to an autodidact, or just nice-to-have for people who don't quite "get" the pronunciation, or somewhere in between? I started learning without them and wondering if I should go back and relearn things with macrons this time. Thank you for the great talk, very inspiring!
Ciao Alessandro! Grazie per la domanda. La riposta è sì: I was trying to be polite in how I presented this argument in my talk, since I didn’t think my audience would necessarily care that much about this subject. But I am quite firm in my opinion that learning the long vowels via macrons in Latin and Ancient Greek is fundamental to both the spelling and pronunciation, and they are of course essential to the grammar and vocabulary. In a manner of speaking, Latin and Ancient Greek don’t exist without the long vowels (at least in pronunciation, accepting of course those who want to use a different pronunciation convention - yet their presence is always affecting the grammar, morphology, accents, spelling, etc - they cannot be ignored in Latin or Ancient Greek, even if you don’t pronounce them). In my talk here I intimated that my having learned them from the start really helped me. But that was an understatement. It was key to my appreciating the literature at a high level beyond my peers.
There are novellas based on the puranas in simple Sanskrit. There is also a magazine and other support for the spoken Sanskrit movement but probably nothing like FR
WAIT... YOU WERE IN SPAIN??? if I knew I'd try to go to Lugo to see you :( you can't do me like that but I'm happy for you and glad that a culture institution here in Spain is calling a youtuber and geting whith the times
Salve Scorpius ab Hispanō Baeticō, mihi placet valde videre tē in patriā meā, a multīs annīs laborem tuam video. Historiam romanam amo, et opera tua adiuvat me linguam latinam discere, gratis tibi cum "LLPS" incipere potui somnum meum, quamquam non multum scio, continuo laborando ut esse melior, sed difficilis est, . Spero ut iter tuus in Galaeciā bonus sit, et videre tē in Hispaniā australī si tu is ad regionem meam. Rogo mihi veniam des si multa menda feci.
Nice talk. I think it interesting you try to incorporate the ideas of Stephen Krashen into your approach but still talk about using different courses available. You do a lot of things. The biggest danger to learning a language is stopping learning it. Literally anything you want to do to have contact with the language is good. So if you find something you like, do it. The King of all things, I think, is to go back to Krashen's advice to read or listen to things you understand and enjoy. This should always, in my view be the centrepiece of language learning. In amongst that Luke has a lot of other interesting ideas well worth givibg a go.
Optimē factum, Lūcī! Mihi quidem dīcendust tē animum meum semper tollere (nesciō enim quōmodo Latīnē 'inspire' dīcātur) ut magis studiīs linguārum, praesertim Latīnae Graecaeque sim. Interrogandum quoque mihi est quandō pergās pelliculās dē "Barbaren" quae nōminātur seriē ēdere in alterō canālī tuō cum iam multum temporis abhinc secundum, ut ita dīcam, 'tempus' epīsodiōrum ēvulgātum sit?
Putō Lūcium secundum seriem "Barbarōrum" nōlle cōnspicere quia latīnitās et prōnūntiātiōnēs histriōnum pējōrēs sunt. Rēctē trādūxistī "inspire" Latīnē, per viam.
Here you go: latinitium.com/latin-dictionaries/?t=lsn18049 I can only guess how I came up with that word - while I prepared by talk, I did not prepare it word by word, but topic by topic, so I improve most of this in real time - but it certainly sounds like a colloquial Anglicism.
That’s very kind. There are many thousands, I’m happy to say. Actually I’m quite mediocre when compared with my peers, and some excel far beyond what I will ever achieve. This makes me glad. In fact, I made a number of mistakes while speaking here. They’re not too bad, but I could do better.
@@ScorpioMartianusreally? I would have thought 500 tops with several thousand decent speakers. Very few people are at the level D Gallagher, Terentius, you and the like are at.
@@ScorpioMartianus But you speak beautifully. There's a well-known latin-speaking professor whose fluency is amazing but whose accent I find hard to listen to.
viva galiciaaaa! i speak spanish, galician, french, italian, portuguese, and now it's time to learn Latin autodidactically as well. i also speak french, which i hope will help with the grammar.... 🫣
Optime est sermonem, gratias Magister Luce! Incisiones semper vocis meis facio et cum ambulationibus proficiscor eis utor ut Pimlsuer rationem. LLPSI quoque lego et simul atque incisiones ex singulis capitulis illius liber facio, vero non omnia, magis id tantum quod mihi placet maximumque est mihi momenti in illo tempore. Magister quoque habeo in rete quod me ducat ad meliorem Latinam augendum. Adiuvat isto me quoque et tanti est mihi rostra ad rostrum cum aliquo tempus consumere in discendo quia provocatio est mihi (in via bona) loqui. Meliorem esse puto studere cum magistris semel discipulis antehac rationem autodicati adveniant consolatoria. Denique, me paenitet ad omnia errores in epistulam meam. Gratias tibi ago Luce propter omnia labora quod faces!
Gratias maxime ago, tua pellicula me movent ut melior discam linguas antiquas. Conabor quidem per Familia Romana et multis libris de linguam Graecam discendi quasi te longitudinem vocalium in memoria tenere, et expressiones naturaliter in mente accipere. Transcriptionem scilicet non tam insanem esse puto; propter quod utar methodum tuum. Ut videtur, grammatica mea valde fugit et mihi multa discendum est ut eam capere possim :)
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I missed it I want to dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Come to Bacino for God's sake. Don't do this to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Plūrimās agō grātiās omibus apud Cultura Clásica quī mē invītārunt ut hanc ōrātiunculam habērem in ēventū eōrum XVIII Jornadas de Cultura Clásica, quī habitus est 4-6 Apr. MMXXIV. Ad plūra dē conventibus librīsque ex Cultura Clásica vidē: culturaclasica.com
*My sincerest thanks to Cultura Clásica for having invited me to give this talk at their 18th Jornadas de Cultura Clásica event in Lugo, Spain, 4-6 April 2024. To learn more about Cultura Clásica books and events, see their website at: culturaclasica.com*
Dē Parnsassō Sōlī Ascendendō: Quōmodo Autodidactus Sermōnem Latīnum Graecumque Discere Possit
*Climbing Parnassus Solo: How the Autodidact Can Learn Latin and Greek*
In hāc ōrātiunculā, ascēnsiōnem meam persequor in Monte Parnassō, quī ab auctōre Thrāciō Lee Simmons in librō "Climbing Parnassus" (MMII) per trānslātiōnem dīcitur studium Graecī Latīnīque sermōnis: quōmodo ipse litterās Latīnās et Graecās didicerim, atque etiam quibus methodīs etiam hodiē ūtar in ambābus linguīs melius nōscendīs.
*In this talk, I relate my journey up the proverbial Mount Parnassus, used by author Tracy Lee Simmons in his book "Climbing Parnassus" (2002) as a metaphor for the trek to learn Ancient Greek and Latin: how I learned Latin and Ancient Greek, and the methods I employ to this day as I continue to study them.*
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De factum hoc 《video》in diem hispanicem publicatus fuit, magna gratia se volvit. Optime, Luce.
I love blocks of text in Latin, it's just aesthetically pleasing. You can clearly see that this is the language that the Latin script was made for.
I’m so happy for this guy (who, by the way, was also an Army helicopter pilot!). I have been following him for so many years and he is now literally a world expert and renowned Latin linguist. Such a cool success story.
And a trained geologist. He is truly a Renaissance Man-a polymath.
Learning Latin should enable you to become an archivist (someone who protects ancient texts) at the Vatican
What I like about Latin that I still get the meaning of the sentences. Some less some more. But still just shows how much Latin in modern languages still lives on.
Qué lujo tenerlo a Luke en este evento tan importante!! Soy un autodidacta argentino que hace unos años, buscando en internet, encontró a Luke, gran inspiración para mi aprendizaje del latín. Con sus vídeos aprendí, entre otras cosas fundamentales del idioma, la correcta pronunciación de latín clásico. Luke ha sido una referencia en mi camino recorrido con el método de Orberg LLPSI.
Grātiās, amīce!
As a native Spanish speaker, I understand 60-70% of Latin off the bat spoken by Luke, it sure does sounds a lot like a blend of Spanish with Italian along with its own structure and rules. The sibilant "s" is very noticeable in Latin, something Spanish inherited from Latin. It's no secret that speakers of Spanish/Italian are the closest to Latin in terms of phonology. It still amazes me how much we still use/say in Spanish that we've inherited from our mother language.
La lengua latina siempre vivira cuando hay personas que aun quieren hablarla y estudiarla.
It surprised me a lot that I've actually progressed enough that I understood pretty much all of what was being said here.
how did you learn
@@kardzYT I read Lingua Latina Per se Illustrata. I also did a few things that worked when I was learning English: I listened to speeches and repeated aloud, and I learned poetry by heart. Poetry is especially wonderful as you can repeat it aloud whenever you're alone: taking a walk, cooking, in the shower, whenever. It's also very important for Latin, as the rhythm is very important. I was never a fan of poetry before I started studying it to perfect my English, but I've since developed a deep love for it. I only know a few Latin poems by heart so far (A Leuconoe, Odi et amo, and the first four lines of the Aeneid), but I'd say my pronunciation is quite good compared to my level. I also keep a diary in Latin. I make sure I write something (almost) every day, even if it's just a short sentence.
I still don't speak very well, though, and I've got a long way to go.
@@yel292 Do you read the book yourself or watch luke's series?
and if you read it yourself would you recommend getting the book yourself because i am also currrently learning latin trough "Lingva latina per se Ilvstrata" with luke' videoes but i sometimes wonder if it would be more effective to have the book myself aswell
@@Happy-oj8tc I have my own copy, which I'd recommend for you too. I don't know about you, but personally I like to have a physical copy. It feels more real than over the screen, and you can make notes in the margins. I sometimes watch Luke's videos about chapters I've already read.
At the end, there's a dictionary, but instead of containing translations, it mentions the chapter/row where the word first was used, so you have to go back and figure it out from the context. I like this a lot.
I should also mention that after each chapter, there's an explanation of the grammar and a section of exercises for you to solve. Sometimes I skip this part, though. 😅
@@yel292 Ty for answering, and alright seems like i am going to buy my own copy :). also smart way to make the dictionary tbh since it will just hammer in the words alot more than just having a translation.
But yeah again thank you for answering its helped me a bunch and have a good day :)
Esta charla es una joya. ¡Muchas gracias! Saludos desde Chile.
I admire you Lucius, right now acquiring Latin occupies most of my time, also learning as an autodidact. Hope to be writing comments in Latin soon. This video has just given me so much motivation and energy because I know that eventually I will make it and bring this language alive in my mouth once more.
Thanks for your work 🤩👍🏻
I'm glad to hear that! Keep up the good work.
Tasted memorizing prayers five or six years ago. As I find no time to learn more, I fall back on what I have learned(I estimate ny vocabulary at about 5000 words), but more importantly, the structure of the declentions and conjugations come to mind as my mind seems to want to express itself in this language, the positioning ove words within sentences...kind of like the cake in the oven that wants to rise. The storehouse of Latin in the mind seems to take on a life of its own and wants to grow. Interesting and captivating at the same time. Thanks for your videos. Very encouraging.
Beautifully expressed :D
Gratias pro oratione, Luci! Methodum tuam legendi credo optimam esse inter omnes alias 😁
Lovely lecture, thank you for sharing so many insights with us.
Thanks for watching!
What an inspiration.
Sei fantastico! ❤👏
❤️❤️❤️
You are such an inspiration! Thank you for your service. And I loved that title! XD
This was beyond helpful! It’s rather hard to find Latin spoken in the way you speak it. I have a much easier time finding speakers to imitate in French or Spanish. So, thank you for this, your content has helped me grow exponentially.
Very kind, thanks for the comment
You were a freshman in college 21 years ago?!? God damn, you look great for your age, I thought you were in your early 30’s.
Thanks! Turning 40 this year.
Any advice on learning modern Greek magister?@@ScorpioMartianus
@@ScorpioMartianus There's no way you're turning 40. You must have that Tom Cruise disease or something 😂
@@Ensor-Doone i just left a long comment with advice and it instantly got deleted. Sorry
@@ScorpioMartianusand many more years friend! You’ve been incredibly helpful in my goal to learn classical Latin. Definitely planning on joining your Patreon once the family settles in (PCS season 😅)
Máximus honor, sine dubió!
lovely to hear, julius caesar would be proud
Anglicé dícó: Last night I read a little bit of the first part of Cicero's Pró Archiá on the Latin Library website before going to bed, out of curiosity. Naturally I didn't understand EVERYTHING, nor the references to a lot of the illustrious men of the republic that he kept referencing (I am still slowly brushing up on my Greco-Roman history). But the fact that so many words and whole phrases jumped out at me, that I could understand at lest the gist of what he was saying, gave me hope and further motivation to keep on going. It really is an incredible feeling being able to read the very words of a flesh and blood historical figure from more than 2,000 years ago and just that very awareness alone is one of the rewards of learning both classical languages to fluency.
I am still working through both the English and Italian Athenaze, as well as some of the other books in your Greek spreadsheet that I actually own physical copies of, even a PDF version of Thrasymachus. I am using as much of your audio for all these materials as possible and am of course still pushing through 'Familia Rómána" and enjoying the process, rather than considering it a chore. No matter how many times I've read and re-read the same chapters of the latter book over and over again, I cannot help but appreciate the richness of the material, which even Irene Regini lauds in her Satura Lanx YT channel, and the labor of love that took X years for Professor Ørberg to make it.
I am also a member of two Telegram chats moderated by Rossano "Roxas" Fragale, with whom you are more than acquainted with, for Latin and Ancient Greek. I also often, to this day, still join the weekly Latin and Greek chats on Zoom that you yourself first invited me to back in 2019.
Euge, Magister! Maximas gratias pro hac pellicula tam lepida utilique!
Wow. As someone who "learned" Latin through two painful years of Wheelock in college...to say that this is incredibly impressive is an understatement. I am going back and starting with Lingua Latina, hoping that I can get through it and Roma Aeterna in a year (or less) as I am studying classical languages in college again. This time, I hope to go all the way through PhD, and I really want to be a master of at least Greek and Latin. I don't want to struggle with the awful translation method of Wheelock and others, but I want to get to a point where I can read anything fluently (at least with a dictionary at hand, if nothing else). You are incredibly inspiring and I appreciate all your content!
You’re awesome and inspirational. Started learning Latin and reading lingua Latina book and watching your videos. Thank you! Do you offer private lessons?
You are incredible :)
Molto più bello il latino classico che quello ecclesiastico, sublime 👏👏👏
heretico 😂😂😂😂
I like sometimes opening his videos when they're suggested to me and just see how much my brain understands without paying attention to it. I particularly like it in this format because the prosody and nasality feels very familiar to me as a Brazilian, even though my accent in Portuguese sounds will never get close to the quality of this man's "radio" voice. Haha
Optima órátiúncula! Mihi valde placuit, ut semper! Ad rísum movistí mé et inspírátiónem mihi causás pró ad montem Parnassum amplius ascéndere! Fereque omnia intelléxí sine subtitulís! Haec est meá quidem opinióné máxima tuárum órátiúnculárum!
I think it's very important to understand how the grammar of a language works, even before you start learning, because it allows you to understand the logic of the language. Then it is much easier to insert the details into your ready-made "scaffold" as you learn them.
Another thing: it is not necessarily true that grammar gets in the way. It is also not necessarily true that it is impossible to think about inflection at a normal conversational pace and deliver the right ending at the right time. It takes a lot of energy, but given sufficient brain bandwidth and processing speed, it can be done.
Sooo cool🎉
Optima est haec ōrātiō! Nōn licet omnibus, sed plērīsque discipulīs hunc modum aptum esse arbitror quī eōs ad Parnassum, ut dīxistī, dūcat. Et ego multās sententiās atque versūs ēdiscō et postrēmō memoriter recitō quō facilius linguās discam quās volō (quārum sunt permultī, hahae). Lēctiō intensīva quā autodidactica ūtor cum nōn jam tīrō linguam discō est māteriās ad discendum ipsa (quasi magistra sim) mōlīrī; eō modō nova vocābula nōn modo semel ē dictiōnāriō quaerō, sed etiam linguā ipsā explicō et memoriae facilius mandō.
I wish I had known of that conference. I would have gone to see you. I’m not far from there.
Ah darn! Next time
@@ScorpioMartianus
By the way. I bought Familia Romana second edition via Amazon but didn’t like the letters impression. The first edition in black and white is much better in this regard. It seems as if the letters in the colour edition are an image instead of simple proper impression. Do you confirm? (Probably the word “impression” is not the correct one but I don’t recall the right term now.)
@@PedroMachadoPT Printing? The way the letters were printed?
@@francophone.
Yes. It looks the page was photocopied rather than printed. The letters are pixelated. I’ll return the book if I find the first edition on sale, even if it is some used book.
@@PedroMachadoPT At least it is better than nothing
Thank you so much for this great talk! I use a lot of the methods that you have mentioned and my favourite tool is the app "Legentibus: Learn Latin". I re-read the ebooks (luckily there are a lot so it doesn't get boring 😅) and listen to the audio books while "shadowing" the voice of the reader. I will try to combine it more with your recommendations (seven step method etc.) and create a learning plan. Do you use the app as well?
Legentibus is legit my favorite app.
I wish I could learn Latin. You speak it beautifully.
Very kind. I have much to improve. Thanks.
I learned the paradigms while I was in the middle school (brazil), I was using the dowling method unconsciently, because latin, well it is just so gorgeous. At confirmo hactenus linguam latinam classicam esse saepe difficilem intellectu.
You mentioned "Dominus Anulorum"! If only it was translated into good Latin! I wanted to read Hobbit iterum iterumque but they say its latinitas malam esse. :(
As a germanic barbarian i can confirm that this is the reincarnation of Gaius Julius Caesar!
You were in Spain that time??! How could I miss it!
I can understand it quite well with Latin subtitles on but still not used to just listening to it
I began learning Latin in roman catholic elementary school.
Cum veneris in Italiam (Mediolanum)?
Gratias tibi.
Vale.
Studens in Uniuersitate Conimbricense (Portugaliae) sum et hodie tuae pelliculam oratiunculae uidi. Quam laetus essem, si oratiunculam etiam in hac academia haberes! Fortasse nos aliquando te inuitare huc possimus.
Gaudiō mihi foret!
How many people were you talking to? Did they have subtitles too? Or are they all part of a Latin speaking cult? If so, where can I join ? ❤
Please share with us the Story of Apollo in Latin!
Which story do you mean? Apollo is an extremely complex character and hose story is intertwined in dozens of myths.
Greetings from Poland .
Hi Luke! Thanks for your work all these years it's such a great help in learning Latin for me!
I was wondering, in your recent videos you don't do elisions anymore, is it for clarity purpose or did you find something in your research that make you question their usage in regular speach? Thank you!
I’m really glad to hear that, thanks.
I most certainly do still do all the elisions, synaloephe, and sandhi: th-cam.com/video/wiadWCPJlaI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=P2k6OwbzzKPERSsJ
When I gave this talk, I was aware that it would be difficult for my audience to follow me since very few of them had been exposed to spoken Latin (mine was the only talk of the conference given in Latin, the rest were in Spanish). Thus I did indeed to a lot of staccato speaking to help make my speech clearer, if decidedly less natural.
@@ScorpioMartianus thanks a lot for the answer! Keep on your great work!
8:28 Do you have that Dowling article archived somewhere? (I'm assuming you've fished it out somehow for the presentation)
Archive can let you get it I’m pretty sure. Also my Ranieri-Dowling Method video on polyMATHY, which is what I took a screen shot of for the PPT.
I want to ask a quastion, did you do Toastmasters in America, or did you learn on the go to public speach? if not ,wil you try toastmasters once?
PS: I like what you are doing, I did buy and try Lingua latina, but after the 3the chapter intrest are a little gone (Dont realy know what to do with it anymore?
Luke, what is your opinion on learning with macrons? Specifically, do you think they are necessary to an autodidact, or just nice-to-have for people who don't quite "get" the pronunciation, or somewhere in between? I started learning without them and wondering if I should go back and relearn things with macrons this time. Thank you for the great talk, very inspiring!
Ciao Alessandro! Grazie per la domanda. La riposta è sì: I was trying to be polite in how I presented this argument in my talk, since I didn’t think my audience would necessarily care that much about this subject. But I am quite firm in my opinion that learning the long vowels via macrons in Latin and Ancient Greek is fundamental to both the spelling and pronunciation, and they are of course essential to the grammar and vocabulary. In a manner of speaking, Latin and Ancient Greek don’t exist without the long vowels (at least in pronunciation, accepting of course those who want to use a different pronunciation convention - yet their presence is always affecting the grammar, morphology, accents, spelling, etc - they cannot be ignored in Latin or Ancient Greek, even if you don’t pronounce them). In my talk here I intimated that my having learned them from the start really helped me. But that was an understatement. It was key to my appreciating the literature at a high level beyond my peers.
@@ScorpioMartianus Thank you for your detailed response, Luke, very helpful as always!
I need to find a FAMILIA ROMANA for Sanskrit. Anyone know any? Memorizing paradigms without sentences isn't going anywhere.
There are novellas based on the puranas in simple Sanskrit. There is also a magazine and other support for the spoken Sanskrit movement but probably nothing like FR
Tantopere jucunda vox tua latina, amice! Veni aliquando in Mexicum, amabimus te habere :)
Grātiās! Perlibēns veniam
Salve, What ia your opinion of Dr. Waldo Sweet Artes Latinae program. Ty.
👍👍
WAIT... YOU WERE IN SPAIN???
if I knew I'd try to go to Lugo to see you :( you can't do me like that
but I'm happy for you and glad that a culture institution here in Spain is calling a youtuber and geting whith the times
I think Cultura Clásica is very much with the times; they have a lot of talented and hard-working people. Thanks for the comment.
Y pensar que esta lengua era la lengua internacional en toda Europa en la edad media.
Y lo es hoy para algunos de nosotros.
@@ScorpioMartianus Me alegra saber eso. Gracias, Luke!
👏👏👏👏
Grazie, Maria!
Salve Scorpius ab Hispanō Baeticō, mihi placet valde videre tē in patriā meā, a multīs annīs laborem tuam video. Historiam romanam amo, et opera tua adiuvat me linguam latinam discere, gratis tibi cum "LLPS" incipere potui somnum meum, quamquam non multum scio, continuo laborando ut esse melior, sed difficilis est, . Spero ut iter tuus in Galaeciā bonus sit, et videre tē in Hispaniā australī si tu is ad regionem meam.
Rogo mihi veniam des si multa menda feci.
Grātiās tibi agō! Hispānia perquam placuit mihi. Spērō mē reditūrum.
I love how all my comments get instantly deleted by youtube
Nice talk. I think it interesting you try to incorporate the ideas of Stephen Krashen into your approach but still talk about using different courses available.
You do a lot of things. The biggest danger to learning a language is stopping learning it.
Literally anything you want to do to have contact with the language is good. So if you find something you like, do it.
The King of all things, I think, is to go back to Krashen's advice to read or listen to things you understand and enjoy. This should always, in my view be the centrepiece of language learning.
In amongst that Luke has a lot of other interesting ideas well worth givibg a go.
Optime! Salvate omni, amici cari!
Lucus in Gallaecia! 😍
Valdē placuit!
et bravus
Optimē factum, Lūcī! Mihi quidem dīcendust tē animum meum semper tollere (nesciō enim quōmodo Latīnē 'inspire' dīcātur) ut magis studiīs linguārum, praesertim Latīnae Graecaeque sim. Interrogandum quoque mihi est quandō pergās pelliculās dē "Barbaren" quae nōminātur seriē ēdere in alterō canālī tuō cum iam multum temporis abhinc secundum, ut ita dīcam, 'tempus' epīsodiōrum ēvulgātum sit?
Putō Lūcium secundum seriem "Barbarōrum" nōlle cōnspicere quia latīnitās et prōnūntiātiōnēs histriōnum pējōrēs sunt.
Rēctē trādūxistī "inspire" Latīnē, per viam.
@@BrandonBoardmanNec mīror ista sīc īre, ut Senecam referam. Grātiās tibi agō!
Please, what is the verb said in 7:19, 'fētuit' ?
Here you go: latinitium.com/latin-dictionaries/?t=lsn18049
I can only guess how I came up with that word - while I prepared by talk, I did not prepare it word by word, but topic by topic, so I improve most of this in real time - but it certainly sounds like a colloquial Anglicism.
I wonder how many people in the world can claim this level of latin fluency.
That’s very kind. There are many thousands, I’m happy to say. Actually I’m quite mediocre when compared with my peers, and some excel far beyond what I will ever achieve. This makes me glad.
In fact, I made a number of mistakes while speaking here. They’re not too bad, but I could do better.
@@ScorpioMartianusreally? I would have thought 500 tops with several thousand decent speakers. Very few people are at the level D Gallagher, Terentius, you and the like are at.
@@ScorpioMartianus But you speak beautifully. There's a well-known latin-speaking professor whose fluency is amazing but whose accent I find hard to listen to.
Gallaecus sum! murum romanum antiquum Luco Augusti vidisti?
Salvē, amīce! Vīdī! Eam pelliculam mox parābō.
Hi Luke. Why have you re-recorded LLPSI FR? And are you done with it? Have you re-recorded RA as well?
Do you have a tip for learning vocabulairy?
Yes: th-cam.com/video/fvkvvdKot5U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=srKAECrsBF1_S56H
And: th-cam.com/video/wpxfXiWqnlg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=B1HsR3ysIIHaVk2z
viva galiciaaaa! i speak spanish, galician, french, italian, portuguese, and now it's time to learn Latin autodidactically as well. i also speak french, which i hope will help with the grammar.... 🫣
Ave as linguas neolatinas 🏛⚔🛡🦅
Revivir el latín, bueno. ¿Pero revivir el griego? Tal vez venda el griego de Platón. La Ilíada y el NT... un proyecto tan grande y tan hermoso...
38:40
"98% is neeeded to understand..."
I, who get about 40%, made it this far...
I did not know who, what, and why the runner wearing the white and red in the lane nearest the camera.
Nostradamus knew. That's why I watch.
As Spanish speaker in a weird way In understand 60%
Yo tambien ❤
It's interesting to see an old picture of you with hair. To be honest, you're one of the few men who looks a lot better bald
When do I use "et" for and or "wel" for and? lol
Et is “and”, and vel is a word for “or”. The best way I know to learn these is using Familia Romana.
Optime est sermonem, gratias Magister Luce! Incisiones semper vocis meis facio et cum ambulationibus proficiscor eis utor ut Pimlsuer rationem. LLPSI quoque lego et simul atque incisiones ex singulis capitulis illius liber facio, vero non omnia, magis id tantum quod mihi placet maximumque est mihi momenti in illo tempore.
Magister quoque habeo in rete quod me ducat ad meliorem Latinam augendum. Adiuvat isto me quoque et tanti est mihi rostra ad rostrum cum aliquo tempus consumere in discendo quia provocatio est mihi (in via bona) loqui. Meliorem esse puto studere cum magistris semel discipulis antehac rationem autodicati adveniant consolatoria. Denique, me paenitet ad omnia errores in epistulam meam. Gratias tibi ago Luce propter omnia labora quod faces!
Gratias maxime ago, tua pellicula me movent ut melior discam linguas antiquas. Conabor quidem per Familia Romana et multis libris de linguam Graecam discendi quasi te longitudinem vocalium in memoria tenere, et expressiones naturaliter in mente accipere. Transcriptionem scilicet non tam insanem esse puto; propter quod utar methodum tuum.
Ut videtur, grammatica mea valde fugit et mihi multa discendum est ut eam capere possim :)
Gratus momentus debesit esse ibi auditando bonum Lucium. Felix Hispanitae dies, per viam.
Salvete omnes ex Americae Foedus Civitates 👋🏻
Latin sounds so oppressive to the ears, where is the Greek club at?
Greek sounds more natural and womanly
@@ИрисМожевальня Is that a good or bad thing? lol
@@DoubleAAmazin depends on your culture.
Can you also understand portuguese?
Written, yes, fairly easily. I can understand spoken Portuguese a bit.
podia postar uns vídeos em português 🏛🇧🇷🇵🇹👍🌞
You should use the Catholic Church's traditional pronunciation, the only actual living pronunciation.
That is incorrect. Learn more with this video of mine: th-cam.com/video/XeqTuPZv9as/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2IAdOSS15kb-O9E8
Lingua Latina est vera lingua franca Europae.
callido lucca semper
Hodie mane non excitatus sum intra me cogitans “etiam necesse est Graecam Antiquam discere”.
Ecce tamen ita accidit.
Lucius vir periculosus est.
Hahae
Utinam Latine loqui possem. Proh dolor, non docetur ut lingua viva in Germania.
Potes mēcum discere loquī! Ēn: th-cam.com/video/6Zuoiky_tqM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=F1KJS33qE8nXxuJ3
Quod maxime miror de hominibus ex Statis Unitis Americae Septentrionalis, hoc est: omnia quae faciunt pecunia fiunt
Non possum hunc hominem ferre
Abi hinc atque revertere in cubiculum tuum lacrimans ahah
Non equidem invideo, miror magis.
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I missed it I want to dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Come to Bacino for God's sake. Don't do this to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee