Prediction for George’s new blog. George will be ambiguous about his thoughts on S2, he will make a random comment fans will obsess over even though it’s nothing and he will end by gassing up Dunk and Egg and HOTD s3
The truth is… the series won’t be finished. Even is he released Wins of winter today, he’s old enough to most likely not have other 20 writing years ahead of him. So yeah, him leaving something unfinished is not a question imo
Ehhh.. the truth is GRRM won't finish the series, which is a little different. That's not necessarily a death sentence for closure. Berserk moved to a different writer of comparable quality (and inferior art). Wheel of Time actually was a bit better IMHO when it moved to Brandon Sanderson.
@@dante6985 I would say it's the other way around for Berserk. The art is *nearly* on par with late Miura's, but the story just isn't. It's mostly because Mori only knows some general details and doesn't want to make up the details himself; but that doesn't change the fact that the storytelling basically fell off a cliff and became a highlights compilation
@@dante6985 Berserk is being continued by Miura's best childhood friend, who he kept in touch with, and has revealed the ending of Berserk. It's not quite the same
The reason George always gets so sour and angry when Winds is mentioned, in my opinion, isn't because he is some poor old man being pushed to the edge by fans whining wherever they find him. I think it's because he feels immensely guilty about his failure. He does care. He does want to please the fans, but either he's written himself into a corner such that he can't get out of it, age has eaten away his ability to write but he can't admit it, or he has grown to love his characters as much, if not more than his fans and the necessary trimming down of the story and killing characters that is a conclusion is beyond him emotionally. The irony of course is that this is what he says he loves writing about, the human heart at war with itself. Life imitating art I suppose.
I couldn’t agree more. If he didn’t care he would just release some mid product and cash out. He cares a lot, and there are big challenges he’s struggling with. he’s frustrated bc the same people he’s brought so much joy to are those hounding and hating the most. I used to be one of the bitter fans, now I’ve just accepted the series will not be finished and just focus on what we do have.
@@theCarbonFreeze TWOW Will also kill all the charecters and distroy westeros . Maby bran will live on as immortal 3 eyed raven. So it isnt that far off.
@@jhank0ceanIt didn't finish the stories of Stannis, Mance Rayder, Quentyn, Arianne, Victarion, Aeron, Jon Connington, Aegon, Ashara Dayne, Sarella, lady Stoneheart, Harry the Heir, Gemma Lannister, Wyman Manderly or Howland Reed. There's plenty of story left to be told.
When I met author Jody Lynn Nye at Tampa Bay Comic-Con last weekend, George came up during our conversation. She told me that anytime someone mentions Winds, George will get a pained expression on his face and his mood immediately sours.
Of course he will. His "fans" have been harassing him nonstop over that damn made up story for 1/8 of his life now. And they belive themselves the wronged party in here.
@@leandrocastello309 I wouldnt say George is blameless in this situation, of course he does not deserve to get harrassed and receive threats due to people foaming at the mouth about Winds. However his failure to deliver the book after repeatedly giving estimates that it was "coming soon" was a huge blunder on his part, he failed himself,HBO and the fans, and i do believe he feels worse than anyone about the fact he has not managed to finish the series yet. At this point there is no going back, i wouldnt blame him if he never finished, although i do believe he is trying, and all of these "fans" harrassing him just makes the entire situation even worse.
It's clearly become a huge burden on him. It's not like he's intentionally not finishing. He's openly admitted he's written himself into a corner in some places and has had difficulty extricating himself from it. Moreover, the story clearly keeps growing and has even with the first book in the series. I'm sure he also doesn't want writing Winds to take over his entire life, which would be a horrible way for anyone to live.
@@qaztim11if he choses to just say "fuck it I’m not finishing the series" that’s his right. Just because he wrote the first 5 books doesn’t mean he owes us the next one. We aren’t entitled to the winds of winter, we haven’t bought it in advance, we don’t need it to live. Let the man do his job.
@@connorwilson6543 For all the other factors, the most significant is money is comfort and comfort (more often than not) is the enemy of drive and creativity. GRRM just doesn't have the drive anymore to write. When he wasn't rich he could translate his metaphorical hunger into creativity. However, the comfort of his riches has robbed him of his drive to be creative. He would rather rest on his laurels and go to parties.
I mean, this has happened a couple times before, relatively recently. Kentauro Miura died in 2021, his best friend took over Berserk. It's been fine so far. Brandon Sanderson took over Wheel of Time. Honestly I think it was a marginal improvement.
Nah he’ll be remembered as the guy who didn’t finish the series but is arguably the greatest fiction writer of all time. The series will never be finished by grrm. We’ll be lucky to get winds. Just accept it already. Maybe robin hobb can try and finish them but I doubt it
Winds videos make me money *but* when the day comes where these update videos will no longer be necessary will be a happy day for all of us, myself included.
@@OfficialRedTeamReview Especially because such videos won't be necessary for the last book of the series. I think at this point we can all agree that this will never see the light of day
@@OfficialRedTeamReviewAfter that, you get to focus on all the money you’ll make in the TH-camr cash grab marathon for who can pump out the most WOW lore videos as well as review videos, spoiler and spoiler free videos, predictions and breakdowns, character & chapter analyses, theory videos and group discussion videos. Can’t forget about ADoS videos and predictions. Don’t even get me started on assorted livestream subjects 💀
He really needs to finish the series to be up there with Tolkien. At the same time if he just gets this thing over the finish line just before checking out it kind of makes it more epic in a way. He is in some rare area where he is either going to be remembered as the best fantasy writer all time or someone who showed a lot of promise and let everyone down.
A finished ASOIAF will not put him anywhere near Tolkein. Not to knock George, but that's an unfair comparison, his writing is not remotely on the same level as Tolkein.
@@AnacreonSchoolbagsJr Correct. In just three books Tolkien defined what fantasy would be for the next seventy years. Even George is stuck in Tolkien's shadow, and nothing he can do will ever get him out of it. No one will ever accomplish more than Tolkien did in so little time
How good asoiaf is is getting out of proportion, there are better fantasy writers than GRRM, who are also more prolific,this guy just got famous because of HBO.
@@Okami1313 "In just three books Tolkien defined what fantasy would be for the next seventy years." Robert E Howard: "Hah! Crom laughs at your 'Lord of Rings' "
Could you imagine the lord of the rings that ended with Frodo and Sam entering Mordor and never knowing what happened? It wouldn’t matter how good the story was up to the point it ended. It’s shocking that George would even wonder if people will remember him after what he’s done in not completing ASOIF. I think people will not remember him fondly, because it’s not like he died suddenly and his work was left unfinished, he choose to put his attention in other projects that no one will care about and left one of the greatest stories unfinished. In addition, the show ruined its own legacy As an artist, it seems insane to not want to finish your work so it will be remembered. Some of the world’s greatest artists never had their art appreciated in their lifetimes but George did and he totally squandered it and for what? As an artist, you live on through your work, so it really seems that George just isn’t that committed to his art. I think it’s all really really sad because this series probably would have been remembered 100 years from now if society is even still around, now it will be up to artificial intelligence to finish the story. I wish George would get the credit he would have gotten for his work because I love him as a person, but you can never convince me he cares that much about fans or even his own work
This. He isn't committed to art whatsoever. He's very committed to making money. And his method for doing so is sitting in a chair for hours writing stuff. That isn't work. I don't care about mental or emotional labor. That's something someone does for enjoyment. It isn't work. Yet he sits on a dragons hoard of cash now. He has admitted many times how motivated by money he is. If his publishers started to fine him $5million every 3 months he hasn't finished winds, he'd have it out by next week.
@@alfredojackhouse hmm well its about perspective. If he does it for fun and the money isn't important, i wouldn't call it work. Him feeling forced to write now i can understand it as being work. On the other hand, if he used to write to make money and be motivated by that, its work. But if he doesn't feel like writing now, and he can easily choose to not write for months, i wouldn't call it work.
@@killerbas40 I think you're confused. You are treating the idea of work as if financial reward is the only thing that constitutes work. He is working to produce something, IE a book. That in itself is enough to constitute work, its not just about money motivations and has nothing to do with whether he's enjoying himself or not.
Bingo He has always been motivated by money. If his publishers started fining him 5 million every 3 months without a manuscript delivered to his editors, he'd have it out by the end of next week.
I love George, I love his work but I think this will all end with him really letting down his fans. As a book lover, it’s tragic that this series will never be finished
It's a little refreshing that George is having more introspection than usual, when he goes "f*ck you I'm gonna write what I want" But at the same time, he backed himself into this corner so it's hard to feel bad for him
Yeah he's kind of obnoxious to be honest. About the only author I know a lot about who is worse is Patrick Rothfuss. He has an even worse bad attitude where he essentially HATES his fans simply because they expect him to eventually finish his trilogy as he promised for years that he would. But not only does Pat hate his fans, but he's started scamming them too. Pretty awful guy.
You leave him alone... the muse follows its own whimsy and GRRM can only force so much of it onto the main series. Fans need a reckoning with their sense of entitlement and remind themselves there's plenty of other series for them to sink their teeth into.
@@alicetoyou448 imagine seeing your masterwork ruined in the same way as GoT,S8 - I wouldn't want to finish it either; he knows many people perceive the ending through the veil of S8, and that's bound to be debilitating
I get the feeling that GRRM might be upset with HBO execs not the writers of HOTD. HBO execs have interfered to a ridiculous degree with HOTD. Whereas with GOT, HBO gave the show runners nearly whatever they wanted to end it with a bang. All the back and forth with some of the proposed prequels may also be contributing to some unhappiness with the network itself. Whenever network or studio execs get over involved with shows or movies they fuck things to umpteenth degree.
@@m.q.7149them being black is probably what he means. Some people still have an incredible hard time with it meanwhile dragons exist. But black people existing is where it turns ridiculous apparently.
@@sebastiaanv the problem with having black Velaryons is that it ruins the whole bastard children plot. In F&B it was ambiguous if Rhaenyras children were bastards or if it was just a lie made up by the Greens to delegitimise her. But because in the show her children aren't mixed race it means that they are clearly bastards. There are characters within the story who could be race swapped without much problem but the Velaryons are not one of them.
You know I wouldn't be so bitter and impatient if he would just go under the radar and let me forget it instead of just always talking about his unfinished story and not finishing it I sympathize with George's predicament but I would do so even more if he would just stop talking about it and either come out with the truth that he won't finish or still keep us waiting but at least silently
Okay but TBF, don't people always say this about celebrities and artists? And in reality they're usually not talking unprompted about anything, it's just that they're _constantly answering questions,_ and then those answers are quoted, written about and endlessly scrutinized. It's not that he's "always talking about it", it's that he's constantly asked about it, and too polite not to give any kind of answer.
@@NorthernRealmJackal well he was unprompted in this particular case as he wasn't asked about winds but about his previous books yet he made it about his unfinished ones But you make a fair point and while I feel bad for George dealing with the less polite fans it's also alienating and sad to see him grow bitter because of that rude portion of fans and treat all fans with less than polite attitude at times but yes he is human and I understand where he's coming from at times But to add to all this, George wouldn't be getting asked questions regularly if he actually went under the radar but he doesn't he still does interviews and is involved in all these spin-offs that not only distract him from his main story but use said story to gain all their success and fame He can't really expect to keep being famous through asoiaf and not get questions about it In the end I'm not a writer only a reader so I can't relate to his struggles I can only try to sympathize and I truly do, but as a fan my frustration is still valid
GRRM's new blog is out, and apparently this time around the reason for WoW's delay is...facism. Yes, apparently his TDS is so bad, it's stopped him from completing ASOIAF for 8 straight years. Of course, this didn't stop him from writing spin off books, prequels, TV shows and Elden Ring for some reason. But no, the world is simply too cruel and the nation in such dire condition he can't finish the series he started 30 years ago.
The House of the Dragon source material isn't great, but the parts that are great - Blood & Cheese, Nettles - they punt on. I don't even know why you would even want to adapt this book if you were going to write Nettles out of it and water down Blood & Cheese.
I can’t imagine feeling sorry for George. His involvement in all these projects he takes on have little to no impact. Every new show or project that comes out the early buzz is how good it’s going to be because of his involvement and then every time it diverts from the source material and at the end he doesn’t like it anyway. His only objective should be the books. If he wants to consult on projects on occasions okay cool. But clearly these producers and directors do not give a shit about his participation. The books will be his legacy. Nothing else. The show is forgotten already. The rest will be also.
i love George and hold no ill will, but things are not "pulling him away." he doesnt have to open theaters, go to cons, work on dunk and egg tv series when the books are unfinished, etc. he doesn't have to accept every invitation. finish winds, finish dunk and egg, finish fire and blood part 2. then do interviews, cons, theaters etc edit: hopefully a dream of spring but is it physically possible for him to finish all these series? i sure hope so. i think we will get winds eventually but doubt we will get to summerhall, or a full accounting of the blackfyre rebellion, or dream
See we can all enjoy a discussion, but remember, we have no clue what is going on in his mind or his private life. If something ‘pulls him away’ then that’s how it is. Not your own assessment.
@@popcornfilms1 Utterly inaccurate. Stunting for a millionaire isn't the move, chief. He is only rich because of the fans of his books. He does literally owe them a completed series. All of these distractions that prevent him from completing them should cost him money. Every 3 months winds isn't delivered his publishers should fine him $5 million. He is incredibly motivated by money because he is insanely greedy. He'd have it done before 2024 ended if they started actually enforcing legitimate consequences to him.
But those Dune stories seem to be contained in itself and every additional book is just an extra. ASOIF is one big story, which cannot be stopped in the middle. Dune could have ended after the first part in the series.
Dune was very self contained, book to book, until the last 2. No one is really begging for a proper conclusion for Murbella and Miles Teg anyway (i.e. the best parts are concluded because Herbert was episodic). ASOIAF is one long story.
Even Dune’s incomplete ending felt complete enough that didn’t rob from the story already told. But GRRM’s series will fall apart if not given an actual finale.
No way he said "I wont put my life on hold and just work on Winds". The arrogance of the guy ffs he is a multi millionaire because of ASOIAF/GOT fans but he basically says nah fuck all the fans, I strung them along for 13 years at least, not to mention fans from the 90s, nah let them wait another 15 years for one book, I have my little pet projects and a dozen Dunk&Eggs novellas to write. This pissed me off for real sorry, wtf is wrong with this guy. And the excuse of "ou I have to go on a trip and meet my friends" yeah that's fine to do so, but thats not an excuse for not finishing Winds in 13 freaking years. Other people have written their PhD while raising kids and juggling a million things, and he can't finish 1 book in 13 years? He is just procrastinating and lacks focus so he does everything else. Obviously he CAN still write stuff cause he wrote Fire and Blood, he writes/produces episodes, he is writing Dunk&Egg possibly. Everything else but Winds. I bet he still has 1100 pages written the same as in 2021. George wonders what his legacy will be if he doesnt finish ASOIAF? He will be remembered as the guy who strung his fans along for decades, and he himself is to blame for procrastinating. Everything else is just excuses.
George didn’t talk shit about the ending of Game of thrones because he couldn’t without looking like a chump, if he finished the books he would have total permission to talk shit on it thru social media. He knew he lost all rights to lay down criticism, they did their own shitty ending because he hasn’t written one yet.
As time goes on, I have softened on DnD. While at the same time souring towards GRRM. Because at the end of the day, they never agreed to write the ending for him. So as their challenge got more expensive and vastly more difficult with less help from the original creator. They largely just gave up.
@@archibaldmoore4514 I really hate the lack of source material you people always give D&D. They are supposedly professional screenwriters, but they couldn't write something halfway decent?
True, despite everything I can't imagine he doesn't feel a lot of sympathy for D&D because when they originally met I'm sure he expected them to adapt a finished ending, not bullet points.
@@archibaldmoore4514 oh please, he warned them about forgetting about jeyne poole in season 1, he tried talking them out of ruining brienne's storyline in season 4, god knows how much he suffered when they told they arent going to do lady stoneheart. they were ruining the story from season 1, they wanted to take over the story as soon as possible. this is the dumbest take out there
History has shown that people who have children often do think about their legacy, especially if they are incredibly wealthy, they just tend to impose it upon their children and make it their responsibility.
George looks at his characters as his children he's said before btw missed you in nerdrotics hotd streams i enjoyed having someone who really read and remembered the little details of fire and blood cause gary and the others who've read it dont really remember it correctly live
Martin always loved TV shows. He’s more passionate about working on his side ventures than writing the main books. His biggest mistake was to make the saga so big. If he has focused on finishing it with five books, he could have spent the rest of his life in peace doing whatever he wanted, like the author of Harry Potter. Instead he wasted time in these countless side projects.
Rowling is unfortunately the worst example of a retired author. I would rather have our version of Martin, who makes promises he never keeps, instead of a version, which loses his mind and destroys his entire reputation.
The fan fiction is being released pretty slowly - because Preston has an incredibly busy life with his job, his family, his own side-projects - but it speaks volumes to me that someone who is not GRRM can write an incredibly interesting and ambitious sequel at a faster pace than the original author.
His work is better than GRRMs as well. The reason is, he does it for passion and enjoyment. George writes simply to grow his mountain of money. Now that he has more money than he can spend even on his enormous food bill, he has no motivation to continue writing.
About 8 years ago I made peace with the thought that he genuinely doesn't know how to end this. You layer dozens of plot points on top of eachother and endup writing yourself into the corner, when no ending will be satisfactionary for everyone. It would be half bad if you stayed 'just a really good fantasy writer', but in the meantime after tv show half the world recognizes your beer-gut and the pressure is too much.
GoT was the ending and it failed with viewers, that’s why GRRM hasn’t written anything since because he can’t think of a different ending. Sure the books could do a better job but the big points shown in the show left such a sour taste he doesn’t think it’ll hold up even in written form.
With how George writes, works, and who he is …. He’ll never be remembered as well as Tolkien. If anything he’ll be remembered how he shit the bed like Tywin.
Yeah agree. Don't know why you wouldn't mention it since it's just a discussion/theory and you're not exposing someone's secrets. You don't know for sure so just tell us
@@OfficialRedTeamReview hey man ive been a long time viewer and enjoyer of your channel. No need to be an asshole. We enjoy yours and Preston's insights, they are almost always very interesting and informative, which is why it felt weird that this one was held back.
It’s remarkable how much time people like Preston and Carmine will spend reading GRRM’s content, listening to his interviews, and analyzing his philosophies and ambitions to get a better understanding of the many delays this book has faced, only for commenters to keep parroting objectively incorrect opinions they pulled out of their asses.
@@GodKingReiss He lost control of the story because he wanted to write the epic fantasy story that subverted Tolkien and reject heroism, but in writing he inadvertently created two genuine heroic characters, Jon Snow and Daenerys. Now he can't bring himself to abandon his goal, but that means denying those characters the ending they deserve, which is narratively unsatisfying (see the TV Show). So he can't finish because he can't choose.
@@davek9608Dany going firebug makes A LOT more sense with Faegon on the throne though (a faux Targaryen who the people love and is a good ruler to boot?). With Cersei the chess pieces aren't in the right place (people *should* be grateful to Dany and want her to rule over a mass murdering tyrant who sleeps with her bro)
GRRM may not have written a Wild Cards story since Crusader in 2008, but he's edited much more recently. Joker Moon, from 2021, is "Edited by Martin with assistance from Snodgrass". "Grow" by Carrie Vaughn, from 2022, has just Martin credited for editing. I wouldn't say Brian Herbert is the reason Dune lives on. Dune already had a David Lynch film, computer games, SciFi miniseries, a documentary about Jodorowsky's attempted film relatively recently... I think people like Denis Villeneuve had been wanting to adapt Dune for a long time.
I'm a bit skeptical about how much "editing" he does on Wildcards to begin with ... Melinda Snodgrass seems to be a much more active contributor and promoter of the series despite being credited with "assistance". I know this is harsh and I have no basis for it but I genuinely feel he doesn't even bother with Wildcards besides approving to have his name on the book.
Like Preston, I've read a lot of George's work. If anyone is curious about reading more, I'd highly recommend Fevre Dream and Dreamsongs Vol. 1. Those are both spectacular
@@Dani_1012 It took me a little while to get into, but I ended up liking it. I dont think it's as solid as some of his other works, but it has some good moments and ideas.
I am absolutely fuming. George, if you are reading this, please focus on one thing at a time, it will go much faster, and please show that you care about your fans and your legacy by finishing ASOIAF, everything else doesnt matter! Tolkien wrote LOTR during WW2, in what 8 years? The editing and publishing problems delayed it, but the main work was done from 1937 to 1945, I think, meanwhile GRRM can't finish 1 book because of Covid he had to sit in his house WHERE HIS WRITING TAKES PLACE 😡😡😡 And now he blame the rise of fascism? Whats next? His dog ate his only paper backup and thunder struck his computer? The excuses for years are just tiring. People have done way more with way less but the genius author (which he is) needs to do 10 projects at the same time cause thats his priority fuck the fans and fuck writing anything real, no instead he will focus on a history book and some novellas just so HBO can make another poorly written season? Fuck HBO, FOCUS ON THE NEXT WINDS CHAPTER AND THEN THE NEXT ONE AND THE NEXT ONE UNTIL ASOIAF IS FINISHED PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. Old man has his priorities mixed up completely. Meeting friends and fans is fine, but dont blame them and covid and fascism for your own procrastinsting for 13 years. He has to look in the mirror each morning and hype himself up to write by asking who is the best writer in the world right now? George fucking Martin thats who. Now go and write those last two books and prove that to everyone else. Tough love ❤
Winds is going to be the most magical book and can't wait to see the candles come into play and time traveling Bran rewriting the first 3 books to revive Jon
I feel like most ASOIAF fans would not care if we don't get another Dunk & Egg story or Blood Fire if we get WoW and DOF. GRRM is putting pressure on himself worrying about those side stories in that universe.
@@King_Mac80 Dunk and Egg stories are legitimately far superior to the main asoiaf story. That doesn't mean he shouldn't finish the series before moving on.
@Grewyn7 maybe from just a writing standpoint I can see why you would say that but plot wise it's not even close. A lot of those Dunk & Egg stories are quite boring, I'm actually curious if casual audiences will like the show or not.
I just heard that it was about the lives of those living in a dying planet, which I find so unique, but I'm still debating on it. What exactly is it about though? I want to hear more about it before giving it a try.
@@Dani_1012 it's about a guy named dirk, he goes to the planet (worlorn) because he got a whisper jewel from his ex. He goes to the planet and its 10 years after this festival because the planet is briefly near a star system with 7 Stars I believe so all the planets around went to worlorn to party and show off their cultures, throughout the book you meet characters that influenced ASOIAF characters a lot. Bretan braith is a character with half his face burned. ECT. I hope I didn't butcher that explanation but it is definitely interesting. It kicked of the 1000 worlds thing that Preston mentioned
My take is if Winds comes out - great but if it doesn't that's not the end of the world. The books are still world changingly incredible and will go down in history. To put it bluntly, I'd rather have an unfinished series than a series with a rushed, poorly written ending or have an ending but have George drop dead of stress like a week after finishing... no art is worth your sanity and your life
The final and truest version of copium: Claiming you've accepted and are okay with the fact that the books aren't coming. I've accepted that they aren't, but I'm not okay with it. The guy got famous and fabulously wealthy off of his fans. He literally does owe them a completed book series.
14:07 this is some serious coping for George. He does have a lot of extra things going on in his life, but these are choices that he has made. I have up a long time ago thinking I will read all of ASOIAF. I do agree he has become a victim of his own success. Cheers!
George will never finish Winds of Winter, his planned ending is what we got in GOT season 8. He is scared abour his legacy & thinks he can't live up to the hype so he's gonna die before Winds of Winter comes out. A braver man (few people are bigger than him so I'm going with "braver") would own up to his own inability to finish the book & work with someone else to have them write it & he himself edit it.
If he needs a time off, with no distraction, just to write, then he can do it. It's really simple for him. He could just cancel his presence in all events which he confirmed before and stopped to be involved in other projects to write Winds. Everyone will undestand. He just don't want to do it.
Currently working on finishing my PhD. The hardest lessen to learn is multitasking has the same curve as the productivity curve. The optimum for myself is two projects. I think if martin would limit himself to just wildcards and winds he'd be done with winds very quickly and could end up working on all the projects he wants to before he dies. But it's unlikely. I wish he'd take S King's approach to adaptation and just send it off to hbo without working on it at all
It really isn't hard to manage 200 million dollar, if you don't trust your 'moneyman' hire a rival moneyman and have them check eachother. OR just give away 198 million and still be rich for the rest of his life.
I read the first book of ASOIAF in 1998. Read the other books as they were published. Watched the series. With no conclusion on the horizon, I have stopped caring. Since some years back, I prefer to read book series that are finished.
People, please stop with the " he has written himself into a corner," excuse. He has said multiple times, and you can see it obviously happening, he works on everything but the books. The dude chases the money. He has figured out its more cost-effective to start a new series and give an outline for the rest to HBO to finish than it is to actually finish it himself. Then, so as to not cheese off his SoIaF fans, he pretends he is still working on the books. But if you pay attention to all the Pizza Crawls and other important events he is doing, and the other projects he is doing, when exactly is he working on the books? He has NOT written himself into any corner. He is bored of the story and is chasing the money. If you cant finish a book in 12 years +, your just not trying to finish it. Why should he finish it? There is no tv deal money any longer attached to it. And he probably told the two Dans his original ending already anyway. So now he has to come up with something different and hope it doesn't sux. Most will be underwhelmed with anything he writes after so long. And in my opinion, books 4 and 5 were nowhere near as good as books one to three. And he had trouble with them as well. If he would just stop with the lies and excuses. People would have been over it years ago.
I'm not sure about everyone else but I don't need George to be spending his time on writing posts about season 2 of hotd but instead prioritise finishing the next book in the series.
George has to manage $200 million. To quote The Wire, "that sounds like one of them good problems." Also, Dune would probably be made without Brian Herbert. People try to make money off of everything. No one believe the Greek gods anymore but they still write books and make movies based on Greek mythology, because those stories are well known and there's money to be made.
GRRM should be highly motivated to finish these books, mimic the earlier days of the Tolkien estate and lock up his magma opus. The money will be too tempting for others. Someone will finish it for him and as we’ve seen it has a greater chance of diminishing his legacy.
I visited Santa Fe last year from El Paso and it is so peaceful and tranquil, idk how George hasn't finished writing in under a few years 💀. You hear stories of screenwriters going off to a cabin for 6 weeks to write the movie and that's what Santa Fe is
@OfficialRedTeamReview I went in October last year so it was cold but generally the weather there is cool or mild. The reason being that Santa Fe is higher in elevation and so it has the feeling of a town that should be in Colorado. It is a town that also receives snow
@OfficialRedTeamReview I looked it up and unfortunately Santa Fe is pretty expensive to rent there but it still worth a visit. It has a lot of cool historical stuff, an art scene, and is a resort town in the winter
35:45 Maybe it wouldn't have been impossible to adapt had the TV series not established those three characters as such a major focus of the series. Like the Disney execs rushing the Star Wars sequels out, I have to place some blame on whatever HBO execs wanted to rush out HOTD season 1 without taking a moment to realize how much of a problem this would be. (It's similar to what GRRM said at Oxford, how if he had the benefit of waiting to release the entire series at once, then he could have gone back and edited things from the earlier books - possibly character ages, once he realized not much time would pass, nor was the 5-year-gap workable.)
Almost didn’t watch this video because I thought oh just another winds vid but surprisingly it was very interesting and contained lots of very good information. Found a good channel here
As far as his other projects go if I don't have any confidence that he's going to finish the book series I'm not going to invest any farther into any game of thrones content.
Preston showing some serious wisdom with his bit on mortality. I've pondered similarly, though occasionally swing different ways depending on if im viewing life through the lens of purpose, present, or drive (things that drive organisms/biology/evolution/etc)
Bubonicon is a really small convention. I went years ago to hear GRRM read an excerpt from Fire and Blood, and there was a decent amount of people in the room, it was pretty exciting
I really want to read Winds like everyone on earth but it is important to remember sometimes that its just a fucking book at the end of the day. Maybe we could all just give him a break and stop reminding him constantly that hes not finished as if he hasnt thought of it all himself. I can understand when something gives you that much stress you want to avoid it more than sink your teeth in.
bros been given a dozen year break he needs the opposite and to work (on the book) and its both reasonable and expected not doing your work pisses off the people waiting
Thanks to Preston, I read more of GRRM’s work. I’m a big fan of them, I love his writing style and his world building. I have given up hope on ever getting TWOW, but I will always love the world of Westeros and Essos. I still rewatch Preston’s theory videos all the time.
I think it’s very interesting that he has said that adaptions never make the stories better they actually end up being worse and yet he has 7 different adaptions in the works! Also, he’s said in the past that he wouldn’t allow anyone to finish the series after he died. I get there is a lot of TV money on the table here but he’s said time and time again that he really wanted to finish Winds but his energy is going elsewhere. I really doubt we’re ever gonna see Winds of Winter or Dreams of Spring.
I just get pissed off when I think, talk, or hear about him and his very late book. It wouldn’t be so bad if he wasn’t pumping out other unrelated material left and right.
4 to 5 years? That coincides with Covid. Is Carmine hinting at George suffering from post-lockdown depression or something? I'm not a fan of a casual hint like this, as it does appear to be health-related. Look, I get George it if got depressed from the reception to season 8. I get the idea he's afraid of failing the expectations people have for his story. To distract himself from that fear he's procastrinating. I get it. He's expanded his world because he's too afraid to end ASOIAF. He predicted his story would be completed with TWOW and ADOS. But it took him too long to write Feast so a part of that story turned into a part of Dance. So will a part of Winds be ommitted to Dream and he'll need an eight book? How reliable is the seven-book thing? Could he be done in six? Could he take some extra time to actually finish the whole story? I'm past caring at this point. I accept we won't get the end to any of Georges story. I used to get upset about it. But I'm past that stage.
The 7 book thing is not reliable at all ... Originally asoiaf was supposed to be a trilogy 😂. I personally don't see how it can be finished with less than 9 books total at least, given where the story and characters are at right now and the pacing of previous material
I do wish he could squeeze out the dunk and egg books, but oh well. I really admire the man and I love his stories and so I hope he lives a happy and comfortable life .
I can imagine it's an extremely difficult choice, but if I were in his shoes and worried about my legacy, I would drop dark winds, whatever night of the cooters, dunk and egg and even fire and blood part 2. His legacy is ASOIAF.
Actually, the reason I do give George some slack is because I've read his other materials. 1000 worlds and all. If the truth happens that WoW doesn't happen, I'm fine. George has been a great writer to get through.
It seems George is someone quite similar to me. I haven't been able to study for my specialization exams for 2 years! Only recently have I started and that too after I finally received some appropriate motivation. The whole 2 years I've been so anxious about why I cant just sit down and study, which made me actively avoid the issue and search for things to distract me from what makes me anxious (studying) which only made my situation worse. I also want to do more interesting things than the one thing I NEED to do. George it seems is in a similar situation. He doesn't have interest in WoW as much as his other projects, so lacks the motivation required and now the thought of working on it makes him even more anxious as time passes on and so he avoids it and allows things to distract him even more from what he needs to do. The man probably has ADHD. The more people press him about finishing winds, the more anxious it makes him and the more side projects he does. Ultimately, only some extreme duress can force him to focus on WoW which will probably be his impending death by which time it'll be too late. You guys can give up on ASOFAI finishing (unless someone puts a gun to his and makes him finish under duress)
30:30 - I'm really not at all surprised by what Martin has said, tbh. Obviously every person is different. But as someone who's an aspiring writer, I relate a lot to what Martin has said. Obviously I'm not a hundred millionaire with dozens of projects, but I know what causes problems for me. If I don't care about something I'm writing, that doesn't paralyse me. In fact, it's freeing. It's when I care so much about a story I'm working on that I can feel paralyzed. Because you have this platonic ideal in your head of what the story should be. And it often feels like no matter how hard you try, you can't get that perfect ideal on to the page. And it's extremely frustrating. And I also think about my legacy. I want my work to have meant something to someone. I want to write a book that really has in impact on someone. I've never been a very social person. I'm a loner. And I've struggled with depression over and over again throughout my adult life. But reading other people's stories, and watching TV-series that I love, those have been the things that have always gotten me through the worst of it. There are so many great books and shows that, if they didn't exist, I might not be here today typing this comment. And I want to be able to do that for someone else. I never thought that George had lost his passion. I've always thought that George's problem was that he cares far too much. He wants all the spin-offs to be good, so he gets overly involved with them. He wants Winds to be perfect, so he rewrites and rewrites and rethinks and rethinks over and over again to exhaustion. Why does he need quiet time in long stretches to write? I suspect because he feels that in any other circumstance he's not writing at his best. And that alone can make it hard to put your hands on those keys. As they say, being a writer is you sit down and you bleed unto the page.
If he is worried so much over his legacy, then he should be motivated to finish winds of winter, as he will be dead within the next 20 years max. Possibly the next 10. So far his legacy is he could of been one of the great writers, but he will be known as the writer with all the talent, but could never finish the story and never even had good excuses not to either. He has all the the motivation and ammunition a normal person would have by the story not being finished. Its that simple!!
People who suffer from success usually get where they are on their own talent and hard work, but never figure out how to find, trust, and empower someone who lets them work. He needs someone to do all his blocking and tackling for him, shielding him when he needs it, so he can work. Instead it's like he has 50 tabs open in one browser window, they're all urgent, and his laptop is running out of battery.
As an outsider who’s never read a page or GOT and seen only maybe 3 episodes of the show, none of this is nearly as a big of a time management issue as y’all seem to think it is. He needs to finish Winds. The main series is his legacy. Fuck literally everything else. Relatively speaking, no one knows what the fuck Duncan Egg is. No one cares if he’s peer reviewing for his close friends of over 50 years. His name can only sell their copies so far. If they’ve been writers for 50 years and haven’t found his level of success then that’s on them. Also, no one’s gonna blame George for weird or bad show adaptations. His legacy is protected from that. He just needs to focus on what he can control and that’s finishing his own damn books in the way he wants to. If he finishes ASOIAF then he’ll be on the Mt Rushmore. If he doesn’t finish it then he won’t be on the Mt Rushmore. It’s literally that simple.
I personally believe that George is not going to end the series, he is not only scared about the reception that may have, but also bcs he just can't. He lacks the motivation, the energy he once had and I think he is terrible sad that the story that will be his legacy (with or without ending) won't live up to anybody's expectations, not even his. Now he is just battling on how to say it or simply not to; so he can focus on enjoying life, he may be heatlhy but that does not mean he can't die tomorrow. The complications of writing of TWOW has never been about time, but about the actual story. I think the GOT series ending just showed that to him in the worst way posible.
This is the best opening to one of your videos ever. I have never laughed so hard...
I'm thankful to have a good co-host like Preston who I can bounce off of and is pretty funny himself.
When chemistry matches wit, comedy is natural.
@@OfficialRedTeamReview yeah i can listen to you guys banter about anything. i dont even watch marvel, westworld and all that shit
@@OfficialRedTeamReview You're the only guys on any podcast I love to listen to. Match made in heaven!
I did
Prediction for George’s new blog. George will be ambiguous about his thoughts on S2, he will make a random comment fans will obsess over even though it’s nothing and he will end by gassing up Dunk and Egg and HOTD s3
You forgot the part where we TH-camrs make videos on it but yeah, that sounds about right
He will also mention his big big news (another wildcards anthology).
@@BiggestCorvid haha maybe
“Announcing ‘Fevre Dream 2: its getting hot in here’”
That's not a prediction, that's a spoiler.
The truth is… the series won’t be finished. Even is he released Wins of winter today, he’s old enough to most likely not have other 20 writing years ahead of him. So yeah, him leaving something unfinished is not a question imo
Ehhh.. the truth is GRRM won't finish the series, which is a little different. That's not necessarily a death sentence for closure. Berserk moved to a different writer of comparable quality (and inferior art). Wheel of Time actually was a bit better IMHO when it moved to Brandon Sanderson.
Agree! This series won't be finished!
@@dante6985 I would say it's the other way around for Berserk.
The art is *nearly* on par with late Miura's, but the story just isn't. It's mostly because Mori only knows some general details and doesn't want to make up the details himself; but that doesn't change the fact that the storytelling basically fell off a cliff and became a highlights compilation
@@DoratTheKiller Oh okay. To be honest, I've only read a few chapters online😛. That was just my impression.
@@dante6985
Berserk is being continued by Miura's best childhood friend, who he kept in touch with, and has revealed the ending of Berserk. It's not quite the same
The reason George always gets so sour and angry when Winds is mentioned, in my opinion, isn't because he is some poor old man being pushed to the edge by fans whining wherever they find him. I think it's because he feels immensely guilty about his failure. He does care. He does want to please the fans, but either he's written himself into a corner such that he can't get out of it, age has eaten away his ability to write but he can't admit it, or he has grown to love his characters as much, if not more than his fans and the necessary trimming down of the story and killing characters that is a conclusion is beyond him emotionally.
The irony of course is that this is what he says he loves writing about, the human heart at war with itself. Life imitating art I suppose.
I couldn’t agree more. If he didn’t care he would just release some mid product and cash out. He cares a lot, and there are big challenges he’s struggling with. he’s frustrated bc the same people he’s brought so much joy to are those hounding and hating the most. I used to be one of the bitter fans, now I’ve just accepted the series will not be finished and just focus on what we do have.
He turns 76 in September. Hope he finishes it this decade.
Isn’t gonna happen. Dude is already a living miracle being obese and this old. I would be surprised if he makes it past 2026.
The TV Show already finished the story
@@jhank0cean and it sucked
@@theCarbonFreeze TWOW Will also kill all the charecters and distroy westeros . Maby bran will live on as immortal 3 eyed raven. So it isnt that far off.
@@jhank0ceanIt didn't finish the stories of Stannis, Mance Rayder, Quentyn, Arianne, Victarion, Aeron, Jon Connington, Aegon, Ashara Dayne, Sarella, lady Stoneheart, Harry the Heir, Gemma Lannister, Wyman Manderly or Howland Reed. There's plenty of story left to be told.
When I met author Jody Lynn Nye at Tampa Bay Comic-Con last weekend, George came up during our conversation. She told me that anytime someone mentions Winds, George will get a pained expression on his face and his mood immediately sours.
Of course he will. His "fans" have been harassing him nonstop over that damn made up story for 1/8 of his life now. And they belive themselves the wronged party in here.
@@leandrocastello309 I wouldnt say George is blameless in this situation, of course he does not deserve to get harrassed and receive threats due to people foaming at the mouth about Winds.
However his failure to deliver the book after repeatedly giving estimates that it was "coming soon" was a huge blunder on his part, he failed himself,HBO and the fans, and i do believe he feels worse than anyone about the fact he has not managed to finish the series yet.
At this point there is no going back, i wouldnt blame him if he never finished, although i do believe he is trying, and all of these "fans" harrassing him just makes the entire situation even worse.
It's clearly become a huge burden on him. It's not like he's intentionally not finishing. He's openly admitted he's written himself into a corner in some places and has had difficulty extricating himself from it. Moreover, the story clearly keeps growing and has even with the first book in the series. I'm sure he also doesn't want writing Winds to take over his entire life, which would be a horrible way for anyone to live.
@@qaztim11if he choses to just say "fuck it I’m not finishing the series" that’s his right. Just because he wrote the first 5 books doesn’t mean he owes us the next one. We aren’t entitled to the winds of winter, we haven’t bought it in advance, we don’t need it to live. Let the man do his job.
@@leandrocastello309😅
I swear he's spent more time explaining why the book is late than he's spent actually writing the damn book.
@@connorwilson6543 For all the other factors, the most significant is money is comfort and comfort (more often than not) is the enemy of drive and creativity. GRRM just doesn't have the drive anymore to write. When he wasn't rich he could translate his metaphorical hunger into creativity. However, the comfort of his riches has robbed him of his drive to be creative. He would rather rest on his laurels and go to parties.
And he's too ridiculous to turn it over to someone who is willing to do the work.
He either stops every other project and sticks to ending ASOIAF or he will be remembered as the guy that couldn't finish his series.
Simple as.
I mean, this has happened a couple times before, relatively recently. Kentauro Miura died in 2021, his best friend took over Berserk. It's been fine so far. Brandon Sanderson took over Wheel of Time. Honestly I think it was a marginal improvement.
Nah he’ll be remembered as the guy who didn’t finish the series but is arguably the greatest fiction writer of all time. The series will never be finished by grrm. We’ll be lucky to get winds. Just accept it already. Maybe robin hobb can try and finish them but I doubt it
@@ibrahimtall6209 Any recommendations for GRRM science fiction?
I long for the day when we’ll no longer need Winds of Winter updates videos.
Winds videos make me money *but* when the day comes where these update videos will no longer be necessary will be a happy day for all of us, myself included.
@@OfficialRedTeamReview Especially because such videos won't be necessary for the last book of the series. I think at this point we can all agree that this will never see the light of day
@@OfficialRedTeamReviewAfter that, you get to focus on all the money you’ll make in the TH-camr cash grab marathon for who can pump out the most WOW lore videos as well as review videos, spoiler and spoiler free videos, predictions and breakdowns, character & chapter analyses, theory videos and group discussion videos. Can’t forget about ADoS videos and predictions.
Don’t even get me started on assorted livestream subjects 💀
@@randomantagonist8620 yaaaaa
@@traiges414 Lets just hope that if Winds comes out we are going toh ave enough info to predict the events of Dream with a good amount of certainty.
He really needs to finish the series to be up there with Tolkien. At the same time if he just gets this thing over the finish line just before checking out it kind of makes it more epic in a way. He is in some rare area where he is either going to be remembered as the best fantasy writer all time or someone who showed a lot of promise and let everyone down.
if anything he’ll be like a new Frank Herbert
A finished ASOIAF will not put him anywhere near Tolkein. Not to knock George, but that's an unfair comparison, his writing is not remotely on the same level as Tolkein.
@@AnacreonSchoolbagsJr Correct. In just three books Tolkien defined what fantasy would be for the next seventy years. Even George is stuck in Tolkien's shadow, and nothing he can do will ever get him out of it. No one will ever accomplish more than Tolkien did in so little time
How good asoiaf is is getting out of proportion, there are better fantasy writers than GRRM, who are also more prolific,this guy just got famous because of HBO.
@@Okami1313 "In just three books Tolkien defined what fantasy would be for the next seventy years."
Robert E Howard: "Hah! Crom laughs at your 'Lord of Rings' "
Could you imagine the lord of the rings that ended with Frodo and Sam entering Mordor and never knowing what happened? It wouldn’t matter how good the story was up to the point it ended.
It’s shocking that George would even wonder if people will remember him after what he’s done in not completing ASOIF. I think people will not remember him fondly, because it’s not like he died suddenly and his work was left unfinished, he choose to put his attention in other projects that no one will care about and left one of the greatest stories unfinished. In addition, the show ruined its own legacy
As an artist, it seems insane to not want to finish your work so it will be remembered. Some of the world’s greatest artists never had their art appreciated in their lifetimes but George did and he totally squandered it and for what? As an artist, you live on through your work, so it really seems that George just isn’t that committed to his art.
I think it’s all really really sad because this series probably would have been remembered 100 years from now if society is even still around, now it will be up to artificial intelligence to finish the story.
I wish George would get the credit he would have gotten for his work because I love him as a person, but you can never convince me he cares that much about fans or even his own work
This. He isn't committed to art whatsoever. He's very committed to making money. And his method for doing so is sitting in a chair for hours writing stuff. That isn't work. I don't care about mental or emotional labor. That's something someone does for enjoyment. It isn't work.
Yet he sits on a dragons hoard of cash now. He has admitted many times how motivated by money he is.
If his publishers started to fine him $5million every 3 months he hasn't finished winds, he'd have it out by next week.
@@Grewyn7writing isn’t work? Atrocious take.
@@alfredojackhouse hmm well its about perspective. If he does it for fun and the money isn't important, i wouldn't call it work. Him feeling forced to write now i can understand it as being work.
On the other hand, if he used to write to make money and be motivated by that, its work. But if he doesn't feel like writing now, and he can easily choose to not write for months, i wouldn't call it work.
@@alfredojackhousesays a piece of pasta
@@killerbas40 I think you're confused. You are treating the idea of work as if financial reward is the only thing that constitutes work. He is working to produce something, IE a book. That in itself is enough to constitute work, its not just about money motivations and has nothing to do with whether he's enjoying himself or not.
As soon as GRRM got that HBO money, he stopped caring about the books.
Bingo
He has always been motivated by money. If his publishers started fining him 5 million every 3 months without a manuscript delivered to his editors, he'd have it out by the end of next week.
I love George, I love his work but I think this will all end with him really letting down his fans.
As a book lover, it’s tragic that this series will never be finished
It's a little refreshing that George is having more introspection than usual, when he goes "f*ck you I'm gonna write what I want" But at the same time, he backed himself into this corner so it's hard to feel bad for him
Yeah he's kind of obnoxious to be honest.
About the only author I know a lot about who is worse is Patrick Rothfuss. He has an even worse bad attitude where he essentially HATES his fans simply because they expect him to eventually finish his trilogy as he promised for years that he would. But not only does Pat hate his fans, but he's started scamming them too. Pretty awful guy.
You leave him alone... the muse follows its own whimsy and GRRM can only force so much of it onto the main series. Fans need a reckoning with their sense of entitlement and remind themselves there's plenty of other series for them to sink their teeth into.
@@Onigirli You through glazing the multi millionaire?
@@alicetoyou448Like doing chores instead of doing school work ..
@@alicetoyou448 imagine seeing your masterwork ruined in the same way as GoT,S8 - I wouldn't want to finish it either; he knows many people perceive the ending through the veil of S8, and that's bound to be debilitating
I get the feeling that GRRM might be upset with HBO execs not the writers of HOTD. HBO execs have interfered to a ridiculous degree with HOTD. Whereas with GOT, HBO gave the show runners nearly whatever they wanted to end it with a bang. All the back and forth with some of the proposed prequels may also be contributing to some unhappiness with the network itself. Whenever network or studio execs get over involved with shows or movies they fuck things to umpteenth degree.
You are probably correct. The ridiculous Velaryons is a good example.
@@miless544 Ridiculous Valyrian's?
@@m.q.7149them being black is probably what he means. Some people still have an incredible hard time with it meanwhile dragons exist. But black people existing is where it turns ridiculous apparently.
@sebastiaanv Oh, then he's an idiot.
@@sebastiaanv the problem with having black Velaryons is that it ruins the whole bastard children plot. In F&B it was ambiguous if Rhaenyras children were bastards or if it was just a lie made up by the Greens to delegitimise her. But because in the show her children aren't mixed race it means that they are clearly bastards. There are characters within the story who could be race swapped without much problem but the Velaryons are not one of them.
You know I wouldn't be so bitter and impatient if he would just go under the radar and let me forget it instead of just always talking about his unfinished story and not finishing it
I sympathize with George's predicament but I would do so even more if he would just stop talking about it and either come out with the truth that he won't finish or still keep us waiting but at least silently
I actually agree with this. Would love to bring it up in my next video
Cue south park: We want our privacy!
Okay but TBF, don't people always say this about celebrities and artists?
And in reality they're usually not talking unprompted about anything, it's just that they're _constantly answering questions,_ and then those answers are quoted, written about and endlessly scrutinized. It's not that he's "always talking about it", it's that he's constantly asked about it, and too polite not to give any kind of answer.
@@NorthernRealmJackal well he was unprompted in this particular case as he wasn't asked about winds but about his previous books yet he made it about his unfinished ones
But you make a fair point and while I feel bad for George dealing with the less polite fans it's also alienating and sad to see him grow bitter because of that rude portion of fans and treat all fans with less than polite attitude at times
but yes he is human and I understand where he's coming from at times
But to add to all this, George wouldn't be getting asked questions regularly if he actually went under the radar but he doesn't he still does interviews and is involved in all these spin-offs that not only distract him from his main story but use said story to gain all their success and fame
He can't really expect to keep being famous through asoiaf and not get questions about it
In the end I'm not a writer only a reader so I can't relate to his struggles I can only try to sympathize and I truly do, but as a fan my frustration is still valid
GRRM's new blog is out, and apparently this time around the reason for WoW's delay is...facism. Yes, apparently his TDS is so bad, it's stopped him from completing ASOIAF for 8 straight years. Of course, this didn't stop him from writing spin off books, prequels, TV shows and Elden Ring for some reason. But no, the world is simply too cruel and the nation in such dire condition he can't finish the series he started 30 years ago.
The House of the Dragon source material isn't great, but the parts that are great - Blood & Cheese, Nettles - they punt on. I don't even know why you would even want to adapt this book if you were going to write Nettles out of it and water down Blood & Cheese.
HotD's Queen Helena losing her son has the emotional devastation of Aegon squishing her favorite bug.
I can’t imagine feeling sorry for George. His involvement in all these projects he takes on have little to no impact. Every new show or project that comes out the early buzz is how good it’s going to be because of his involvement and then every time it diverts from the source material and at the end he doesn’t like it anyway.
His only objective should be the books. If he wants to consult on projects on occasions okay cool. But clearly these producers and directors do not give a shit about his participation.
The books will be his legacy. Nothing else. The show is forgotten already. The rest will be also.
distractions: you forgot meow wolf, the bookstore, the cinema, the train...
i love George and hold no ill will, but things are not "pulling him away." he doesnt have to open theaters, go to cons, work on dunk and egg tv series when the books are unfinished, etc. he doesn't have to accept every invitation. finish winds, finish dunk and egg, finish fire and blood part 2. then do interviews, cons, theaters etc
edit: hopefully a dream of spring but is it physically possible for him to finish all these series? i sure hope so. i think we will get winds eventually but doubt we will get to summerhall, or a full accounting of the blackfyre rebellion, or dream
See we can all enjoy a discussion, but remember, we have no clue what is going on in his mind or his private life. If something ‘pulls him away’ then that’s how it is. Not your own assessment.
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Utterly inaccurate. Stunting for a millionaire isn't the move, chief.
He is only rich because of the fans of his books. He does literally owe them a completed series. All of these distractions that prevent him from completing them should cost him money. Every 3 months winds isn't delivered his publishers should fine him $5 million.
He is incredibly motivated by money because he is insanely greedy. He'd have it done before 2024 ended if they started actually enforcing legitimate consequences to him.
@@Grewyn7George is still not a robot. Creativity can’t be forced.
he is doing what he wants to, and things that he wants to do pulls him away from winds. how hard is it to grab that simple concept?
@@justarandomgirlvx3578 I love his interview with Steven King. George asked him "How do you write so much?", Steven's answer "I sit down, and write."
We all so in the weeds we are now discussing perspective blog posts instead of perspective books 😂🙃😫
He will die before we get winds. The man got popular late in life and now has no time for what got him to the dance.
I see this going the Dune route. Magnificent story that ends up incomplete and someone else finishes it up
But those Dune stories seem to be contained in itself and every additional book is just an extra. ASOIF is one big story, which cannot be stopped in the middle. Dune could have ended after the first part in the series.
Dune was very self contained, book to book, until the last 2. No one is really begging for a proper conclusion for Murbella and Miles Teg anyway (i.e. the best parts are concluded because Herbert was episodic). ASOIAF is one long story.
Even Dune’s incomplete ending felt complete enough that didn’t rob from the story already told.
But GRRM’s series will fall apart if not given an actual finale.
No way he said "I wont put my life on hold and just work on Winds". The arrogance of the guy ffs he is a multi millionaire because of ASOIAF/GOT fans but he basically says nah fuck all the fans, I strung them along for 13 years at least, not to mention fans from the 90s, nah let them wait another 15 years for one book, I have my little pet projects and a dozen Dunk&Eggs novellas to write. This pissed me off for real sorry, wtf is wrong with this guy. And the excuse of "ou I have to go on a trip and meet my friends" yeah that's fine to do so, but thats not an excuse for not finishing Winds in 13 freaking years. Other people have written their PhD while raising kids and juggling a million things, and he can't finish 1 book in 13 years? He is just procrastinating and lacks focus so he does everything else. Obviously he CAN still write stuff cause he wrote Fire and Blood, he writes/produces episodes, he is writing Dunk&Egg possibly. Everything else but Winds. I bet he still has 1100 pages written the same as in 2021. George wonders what his legacy will be if he doesnt finish ASOIAF? He will be remembered as the guy who strung his fans along for decades, and he himself is to blame for procrastinating. Everything else is just excuses.
George didn’t talk shit about the ending of Game of thrones because he couldn’t without looking like a chump, if he finished the books he would have total permission to talk shit on it thru social media. He knew he lost all rights to lay down criticism, they did their own shitty ending because he hasn’t written one yet.
As time goes on, I have softened on DnD. While at the same time souring towards GRRM.
Because at the end of the day, they never agreed to write the ending for him. So as their challenge got more expensive and vastly more difficult with less help from the original creator. They largely just gave up.
@@archibaldmoore4514 I really hate the lack of source material you people always give D&D. They are supposedly professional screenwriters, but they couldn't write something halfway decent?
@@archibaldmoore4514 This is a good take.
True, despite everything I can't imagine he doesn't feel a lot of sympathy for D&D because when they originally met I'm sure he expected them to adapt a finished ending, not bullet points.
@@archibaldmoore4514 oh please, he warned them about forgetting about jeyne poole in season 1, he tried talking them out of ruining brienne's storyline in season 4, god knows how much he suffered when they told they arent going to do lady stoneheart. they were ruining the story from season 1, they wanted to take over the story as soon as possible. this is the dumbest take out there
19:55 what Preston said about mortality was beautiful
I agree
History has shown that people who have children often do think about their legacy, especially if they are incredibly wealthy, they just tend to impose it upon their children and make it their responsibility.
George looks at his characters as his children he's said before btw missed you in nerdrotics hotd streams i enjoyed having someone who really read and remembered the little details of fire and blood cause gary and the others who've read it dont really remember it correctly live
@NYCfrankie truuueeeeeee
So Tywin is George’s self-insert then.
George doesn't have any children though, more likely he's got one of his assistants designated as heir to the Books series
Martin always loved TV shows. He’s more passionate about working on his side ventures than writing the main books. His biggest mistake was to make the saga so big. If he has focused on finishing it with five books, he could have spent the rest of his life in peace doing whatever he wanted, like the author of Harry Potter. Instead he wasted time in these countless side projects.
Having JKR be your example of retired author living their life in peace is wild.
Rowling is unfortunately the worst example of a retired author.
I would rather have our version of Martin, who makes promises he never keeps, instead of a version, which loses his mind and destroys his entire reputation.
The fan fiction is being released pretty slowly - because Preston has an incredibly busy life with his job, his family, his own side-projects - but it speaks volumes to me that someone who is not GRRM can write an incredibly interesting and ambitious sequel at a faster pace than the original author.
Where can i get these fan fiction books?
@@badyoutuber1986 Seconding this. Where can I find actual text copy of this fanfic?
His work is better than GRRMs as well. The reason is, he does it for passion and enjoyment. George writes simply to grow his mountain of money. Now that he has more money than he can spend even on his enormous food bill, he has no motivation to continue writing.
@@Grewyn7I cringed when i read his fanfic lmao.
@@Grewyn7 lol, lmao even. i think you were high when you read preston's stuff, its like written by a toddler
About 8 years ago I made peace with the thought that he genuinely doesn't know how to end this.
You layer dozens of plot points on top of eachother and endup writing yourself into the corner, when no ending will be satisfactionary for everyone.
It would be half bad if you stayed 'just a really good fantasy writer', but in the meantime after tv show half the world recognizes your beer-gut and the pressure is too much.
GoT was the ending and it failed with viewers, that’s why GRRM hasn’t written anything since because he can’t think of a different ending.
Sure the books could do a better job but the big points shown in the show left such a sour taste he doesn’t think it’ll hold up even in written form.
With how George writes, works, and who he is …. He’ll never be remembered as well as Tolkien.
If anything he’ll be remembered how he shit the bed like Tywin.
am gonna cry because of his wealth, its such a burden
17:30 - Kind of frustrating to hint at something you're not actually gonna talk about, not gonna lie.
That's the point.
Yeah agree. Don't know why you wouldn't mention it since it's just a discussion/theory and you're not exposing someone's secrets. You don't know for sure so just tell us
@@Hybridtheory2007 sucks
@@OfficialRedTeamReview hey man ive been a long time viewer and enjoyer of your channel. No need to be an asshole. We enjoy yours and Preston's insights, they are almost always very interesting and informative, which is why it felt weird that this one was held back.
2:01 Preston’s 1000 World reviews were the reason I started following his page. I was locked in.
Excuses, GRRM lost control of the story and doesn’t want to finish them. Leave them wanting more, rather than leaving on a low point.
It’s remarkable how much time people like Preston and Carmine will spend reading GRRM’s content, listening to his interviews, and analyzing his philosophies and ambitions to get a better understanding of the many delays this book has faced, only for commenters to keep parroting objectively incorrect opinions they pulled out of their asses.
@@GodKingReiss Truly, its wild how many people have a gut instinct they refuse to move off of
@@GodKingReiss He lost control of the story because he wanted to write the epic fantasy story that subverted Tolkien and reject heroism, but in writing he inadvertently created two genuine heroic characters, Jon Snow and Daenerys. Now he can't bring himself to abandon his goal, but that means denying those characters the ending they deserve, which is narratively unsatisfying (see the TV Show). So he can't finish because he can't choose.
@@davek9608Dany going firebug makes A LOT more sense with Faegon on the throne though (a faux Targaryen who the people love and is a good ruler to boot?). With Cersei the chess pieces aren't in the right place (people *should* be grateful to Dany and want her to rule over a mass murdering tyrant who sleeps with her bro)
GRRM may not have written a Wild Cards story since Crusader in 2008, but he's edited much more recently. Joker Moon, from 2021, is "Edited by Martin with assistance from Snodgrass". "Grow" by Carrie Vaughn, from 2022, has just Martin credited for editing.
I wouldn't say Brian Herbert is the reason Dune lives on. Dune already had a David Lynch film, computer games, SciFi miniseries, a documentary about Jodorowsky's attempted film relatively recently... I think people like Denis Villeneuve had been wanting to adapt Dune for a long time.
I'm a bit skeptical about how much "editing" he does on Wildcards to begin with ... Melinda Snodgrass seems to be a much more active contributor and promoter of the series despite being credited with "assistance". I know this is harsh and I have no basis for it but I genuinely feel he doesn't even bother with Wildcards besides approving to have his name on the book.
Like Preston, I've read a lot of George's work. If anyone is curious about reading more, I'd highly recommend Fevre Dream and Dreamsongs Vol. 1. Those are both spectacular
We should boycott all of his books and merchandise etc till he finishes those books or he never will!
What do you think of Dying of the Light? The concept of people living in a dying planet is so unique to me, but I'm going back and forth on it
@@Dani_1012 It took me a little while to get into, but I ended up liking it. I dont think it's as solid as some of his other works, but it has some good moments and ideas.
What was “that thing” that has affected George for the last few years that they theorize could be responsible for TWOW being late?
I am absolutely fuming. George, if you are reading this, please focus on one thing at a time, it will go much faster, and please show that you care about your fans and your legacy by finishing ASOIAF, everything else doesnt matter! Tolkien wrote LOTR during WW2, in what 8 years? The editing and publishing problems delayed it, but the main work was done from 1937 to 1945, I think, meanwhile GRRM can't finish 1 book because of Covid he had to sit in his house WHERE HIS WRITING TAKES PLACE 😡😡😡 And now he blame the rise of fascism? Whats next? His dog ate his only paper backup and thunder struck his computer? The excuses for years are just tiring. People have done way more with way less but the genius author (which he is) needs to do 10 projects at the same time cause thats his priority fuck the fans and fuck writing anything real, no instead he will focus on a history book and some novellas just so HBO can make another poorly written season? Fuck HBO, FOCUS ON THE NEXT WINDS CHAPTER AND THEN THE NEXT ONE AND THE NEXT ONE UNTIL ASOIAF IS FINISHED PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. Old man has his priorities mixed up completely. Meeting friends and fans is fine, but dont blame them and covid and fascism for your own procrastinsting for 13 years. He has to look in the mirror each morning and hype himself up to write by asking who is the best writer in the world right now? George fucking Martin thats who. Now go and write those last two books and prove that to everyone else. Tough love ❤
He can do whatever he wants but if he doesn't finish the main series he will be remembered as that fantasy writer Legend Who Never Was.
Winds is going to be the most magical book and can't wait to see the candles come into play and time traveling Bran rewriting the first 3 books to revive Jon
he doesnt want to finish it because the end of the show sucked and he wanted to finish the books like it was in show
Game of thrones is basically like Marvel and DC at this point, with author having his own AU while the show is stuck in a different AU.
I feel like most ASOIAF fans would not care if we don't get another Dunk & Egg story or Blood Fire if we get WoW and DOF. GRRM is putting pressure on himself worrying about those side stories in that universe.
We really don't care about the rest just finish the main storyline.
@@badyoutuber1986 I say most fans because there are some nut bags who are probably harassing him about F&B and Dunk & Egg.
@@King_Mac80
Dunk and Egg stories are legitimately far superior to the main asoiaf story.
That doesn't mean he shouldn't finish the series before moving on.
@Grewyn7 maybe from just a writing standpoint I can see why you would say that but plot wise it's not even close. A lot of those Dunk & Egg stories are quite boring, I'm actually curious if casual audiences will like the show or not.
I mean, it's not like he is writing/finishing those things either 😅. Last Dunk and Egg story was released in 2010.
This is HBOs fault. Stop throwing money at him for things that aren't ASOIAF
He doesn't have to accept.
@@badyoutuber1986 100%
I'd start with his first book Dying of the Light. You can see so much ASOIAF (prototypes) and it's an easy short read
I just heard that it was about the lives of those living in a dying planet, which I find so unique, but I'm still debating on it. What exactly is it about though? I want to hear more about it before giving it a try.
@@Dani_1012 it's about a guy named dirk, he goes to the planet (worlorn) because he got a whisper jewel from his ex. He goes to the planet and its 10 years after this festival because the planet is briefly near a star system with 7 Stars I believe so all the planets around went to worlorn to party and show off their cultures, throughout the book you meet characters that influenced ASOIAF characters a lot. Bretan braith is a character with half his face burned. ECT. I hope I didn't butcher that explanation but it is definitely interesting. It kicked of the 1000 worlds thing that Preston mentioned
My take is if Winds comes out - great but if it doesn't that's not the end of the world. The books are still world changingly incredible and will go down in history. To put it bluntly, I'd rather have an unfinished series than a series with a rushed, poorly written ending or have an ending but have George drop dead of stress like a week after finishing... no art is worth your sanity and your life
I love George and I love you guys. If we never get Winds of Winter I’m still happy about that ❤
The final and truest version of copium:
Claiming you've accepted and are okay with the fact that the books aren't coming.
I've accepted that they aren't, but I'm not okay with it. The guy got famous and fabulously wealthy off of his fans. He literally does owe them a completed book series.
14:07 this is some serious coping for George. He does have a lot of extra things going on in his life, but these are choices that he has made. I have up a long time ago thinking I will read all of ASOIAF. I do agree he has become a victim of his own success. Cheers!
Thats Prestons claim to fame. He was the first creator to look thru George's other works looking for ASOIAF parallels
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George will never finish Winds of Winter, his planned ending is what we got in GOT season 8.
He is scared abour his legacy & thinks he can't live up to the hype so he's gonna die before Winds of Winter comes out.
A braver man (few people are bigger than him so I'm going with "braver") would own up to his own inability to finish the book & work with someone else to have them write it & he himself edit it.
This is the only correct take I've seen here.
If he needs a time off, with no distraction, just to write, then he can do it. It's really simple for him. He could just cancel his presence in all events which he confirmed before and stopped to be involved in other projects to write Winds. Everyone will undestand. He just don't want to do it.
Currently working on finishing my PhD. The hardest lessen to learn is multitasking has the same curve as the productivity curve. The optimum for myself is two projects. I think if martin would limit himself to just wildcards and winds he'd be done with winds very quickly and could end up working on all the projects he wants to before he dies. But it's unlikely. I wish he'd take S King's approach to adaptation and just send it off to hbo without working on it at all
It really isn't hard to manage 200 million dollar, if you don't trust your 'moneyman' hire a rival moneyman and have them check eachother. OR just give away 198 million and still be rich for the rest of his life.
I read the first book of ASOIAF in 1998. Read the other books as they were published. Watched the series. With no conclusion on the horizon, I have stopped caring. Since some years back, I prefer to read book series that are finished.
People, please stop with the " he has written himself into a corner," excuse. He has said multiple times, and you can see it obviously happening, he works on everything but the books. The dude chases the money. He has figured out its more cost-effective to start a new series and give an outline for the rest to HBO to finish than it is to actually finish it himself. Then, so as to not cheese off his SoIaF fans, he pretends he is still working on the books. But if you pay attention to all the Pizza Crawls and other important events he is doing, and the other projects he is doing, when exactly is he working on the books?
He has NOT written himself into any corner. He is bored of the story and is chasing the money. If you cant finish a book in 12 years +, your just not trying to finish it. Why should he finish it? There is no tv deal money any longer attached to it. And he probably told the two Dans his original ending already anyway. So now he has to come up with something different and hope it doesn't sux. Most will be underwhelmed with anything he writes after so long. And in my opinion, books 4 and 5 were nowhere near as good as books one to three. And he had trouble with them as well. If he would just stop with the lies and excuses. People would have been over it years ago.
I'm not sure about everyone else but I don't need George to be spending his time on writing posts about season 2 of hotd but instead prioritise finishing the next book in the series.
George has to manage $200 million. To quote The Wire, "that sounds like one of them good problems."
Also, Dune would probably be made without Brian Herbert. People try to make money off of everything. No one believe the Greek gods anymore but they still write books and make movies based on Greek mythology, because those stories are well known and there's money to be made.
Just a sidenote, the final Dune books would have been so much better if Brian Herbert didn't touch his father's masterpiece.
If hbo held all of his shows hostage and refused to release them until he finishes winds I guarantee it would get done within a year.
GRRM should be highly motivated to finish these books, mimic the earlier days of the Tolkien estate and lock up his magma opus. The money will be too tempting for others. Someone will finish it for him and as we’ve seen it has a greater chance of diminishing his legacy.
26:00 - 28:30 - what a beautiful description of GRRMs writing style!
I visited Santa Fe last year from El Paso and it is so peaceful and tranquil, idk how George hasn't finished writing in under a few years 💀. You hear stories of screenwriters going off to a cabin for 6 weeks to write the movie and that's what Santa Fe is
Interesting. Maybe I'll visit someday and if the rent prices are good enough then i may stay but that heat must be atrocious
@OfficialRedTeamReview I went in October last year so it was cold but generally the weather there is cool or mild. The reason being that Santa Fe is higher in elevation and so it has the feeling of a town that should be in Colorado. It is a town that also receives snow
@@Spongebrain97 Oooooooh I like that. I may look into moving there. Hopefully the rent prices are decent
@OfficialRedTeamReview I looked it up and unfortunately Santa Fe is pretty expensive to rent there but it still worth a visit. It has a lot of cool historical stuff, an art scene, and is a resort town in the winter
35:45 Maybe it wouldn't have been impossible to adapt had the TV series not established those three characters as such a major focus of the series.
Like the Disney execs rushing the Star Wars sequels out, I have to place some blame on whatever HBO execs wanted to rush out HOTD season 1 without taking a moment to realize how much of a problem this would be.
(It's similar to what GRRM said at Oxford, how if he had the benefit of waiting to release the entire series at once, then he could have gone back and edited things from the earlier books - possibly character ages, once he realized not much time would pass, nor was the 5-year-gap workable.)
Almost didn’t watch this video because I thought oh just another winds vid but surprisingly it was very interesting and contained lots of very good information. Found a good channel here
"Meathouse Man" is one of his best stories. It seems as if the subject matter is gross, but then it turns out to be about, of all things, love.
As far as his other projects go if I don't have any confidence that he's going to finish the book series I'm not going to invest any farther into any game of thrones content.
I can imagine contracting with HBO and not liking the result. Doing it again is on George though imo
Carmine you absolute beast!
Preston showing some serious wisdom with his bit on mortality. I've pondered similarly, though occasionally swing different ways depending on if im viewing life through the lens of purpose, present, or drive (things that drive organisms/biology/evolution/etc)
GRRM is basically the kingdom of numenor sailing for the valar and accompanied doom. Whilst tolkien most likely considered his end as a gift.
Bubonicon is a really small convention. I went years ago to hear GRRM read an excerpt from Fire and Blood, and there was a decent amount of people in the room, it was pretty exciting
Sounds nice. Hopefully in the future i can attend
I really want to read Winds like everyone on earth but it is important to remember sometimes that its just a fucking book at the end of the day. Maybe we could all just give him a break and stop reminding him constantly that hes not finished as if he hasnt thought of it all himself. I can understand when something gives you that much stress you want to avoid it more than sink your teeth in.
bros been given a dozen year break he needs the opposite and to work (on the book) and its both reasonable and expected not doing your work pisses off the people waiting
Some people would argue the season 7/8 train falling off the cliff was a good thing to spur him on, if your example was the premiere for book 5.
Thanks to Preston, I read more of GRRM’s work. I’m a big fan of them, I love his writing style and his world building.
I have given up hope on ever getting TWOW, but I will always love the world of Westeros and Essos. I still rewatch Preston’s theory videos all the time.
Preston keeps saying "Season 8" instead of "Episode 8" lol
I'm a song of Ice and Fire Fan! written by GRRM! But I can't call myself a fan of George
The Hodor actor is Northern Irish, not Scottlish.
Are we back, though? Are we really?
hit that like button and subscribe and we might be
Would love to have an entire podcast talking about George’s writing style.
I think it’s very interesting that he has said that adaptions never make the stories better they actually end up being worse and yet he has 7 different adaptions in the works! Also, he’s said in the past that he wouldn’t allow anyone to finish the series after he died. I get there is a lot of TV money on the table here but he’s said time and time again that he really wanted to finish Winds but his energy is going elsewhere. I really doubt we’re ever gonna see Winds of Winter or Dreams of Spring.
I made my peace with never getting the rest of the books from george
I think him officially announcing that he will stop working on asoiaf would give he so much more life and energy. Wish him just the best
The way Carmine reacted to "Rousineau" was gold.
It’s hard to be part of a fanbase that’s so optimistic and positive.
Cuz I’m having this strong feeling George won’t finish the series.
That old bastard is just gonna croak before he finishes the series and it will then be forever pointless to read it as it's lacking a conclusion.
I just get pissed off when I think, talk, or hear about him and his very late book. It wouldn’t be so bad if he wasn’t pumping out other unrelated material left and right.
4 to 5 years? That coincides with Covid. Is Carmine hinting at George suffering from post-lockdown depression or something? I'm not a fan of a casual hint like this, as it does appear to be health-related.
Look, I get George it if got depressed from the reception to season 8. I get the idea he's afraid of failing the expectations people have for his story. To distract himself from that fear he's procastrinating. I get it. He's expanded his world because he's too afraid to end ASOIAF. He predicted his story would be completed with TWOW and ADOS. But it took him too long to write Feast so a part of that story turned into a part of Dance. So will a part of Winds be ommitted to Dream and he'll need an eight book? How reliable is the seven-book thing? Could he be done in six? Could he take some extra time to actually finish the whole story?
I'm past caring at this point. I accept we won't get the end to any of Georges story. I used to get upset about it. But I'm past that stage.
The 7 book thing is not reliable at all ... Originally asoiaf was supposed to be a trilogy 😂. I personally don't see how it can be finished with less than 9 books total at least, given where the story and characters are at right now and the pacing of previous material
I do wish he could squeeze out the dunk and egg books, but oh well. I really admire the man and I love his stories and so I hope he lives a happy and comfortable life .
I can imagine it's an extremely difficult choice, but if I were in his shoes and worried about my legacy, I would drop dark winds, whatever night of the cooters, dunk and egg and even fire and blood part 2. His legacy is ASOIAF.
Actually, the reason I do give George some slack is because I've read his other materials. 1000 worlds and all. If the truth happens that WoW doesn't happen, I'm fine. George has been a great writer to get through.
It seems George is someone quite similar to me. I haven't been able to study for my specialization exams for 2 years! Only recently have I started and that too after I finally received some appropriate motivation. The whole 2 years I've been so anxious about why I cant just sit down and study, which made me actively avoid the issue and search for things to distract me from what makes me anxious (studying) which only made my situation worse. I also want to do more interesting things than the one thing I NEED to do.
George it seems is in a similar situation. He doesn't have interest in WoW as much as his other projects, so lacks the motivation required and now the thought of working on it makes him even more anxious as time passes on and so he avoids it and allows things to distract him even more from what he needs to do. The man probably has ADHD. The more people press him about finishing winds, the more anxious it makes him and the more side projects he does. Ultimately, only some extreme duress can force him to focus on WoW which will probably be his impending death by which time it'll be too late. You guys can give up on ASOFAI finishing (unless someone puts a gun to his and makes him finish under duress)
30:30 - I'm really not at all surprised by what Martin has said, tbh. Obviously every person is different. But as someone who's an aspiring writer, I relate a lot to what Martin has said. Obviously I'm not a hundred millionaire with dozens of projects, but I know what causes problems for me. If I don't care about something I'm writing, that doesn't paralyse me. In fact, it's freeing. It's when I care so much about a story I'm working on that I can feel paralyzed. Because you have this platonic ideal in your head of what the story should be. And it often feels like no matter how hard you try, you can't get that perfect ideal on to the page. And it's extremely frustrating.
And I also think about my legacy. I want my work to have meant something to someone. I want to write a book that really has in impact on someone.
I've never been a very social person. I'm a loner. And I've struggled with depression over and over again throughout my adult life. But reading other people's stories, and watching TV-series that I love, those have been the things that have always gotten me through the worst of it. There are so many great books and shows that, if they didn't exist, I might not be here today typing this comment. And I want to be able to do that for someone else.
I never thought that George had lost his passion. I've always thought that George's problem was that he cares far too much. He wants all the spin-offs to be good, so he gets overly involved with them. He wants Winds to be perfect, so he rewrites and rewrites and rethinks and rethinks over and over again to exhaustion. Why does he need quiet time in long stretches to write? I suspect because he feels that in any other circumstance he's not writing at his best. And that alone can make it hard to put your hands on those keys.
As they say, being a writer is you sit down and you bleed unto the page.
If he is worried so much over his legacy, then he should be motivated to finish winds of winter, as he will be dead within the next 20 years max. Possibly the next 10. So far his legacy is he could of been one of the great writers, but he will be known as the writer with all the talent, but could never finish the story and never even had good excuses not to either. He has all the the motivation and ammunition a normal person would have by the story not being finished. Its that simple!!
Maaan, I wish I had GRRM work ethics and money.
People who suffer from success usually get where they are on their own talent and hard work, but never figure out how to find, trust, and empower someone who lets them work. He needs someone to do all his blocking and tackling for him, shielding him when he needs it, so he can work. Instead it's like he has 50 tabs open in one browser window, they're all urgent, and his laptop is running out of battery.
As an outsider who’s never read a page or GOT and seen only maybe 3 episodes of the show, none of this is nearly as a big of a time management issue as y’all seem to think it is. He needs to finish Winds. The main series is his legacy. Fuck literally everything else. Relatively speaking, no one knows what the fuck Duncan Egg is. No one cares if he’s peer reviewing for his close friends of over 50 years. His name can only sell their copies so far. If they’ve been writers for 50 years and haven’t found his level of success then that’s on them. Also, no one’s gonna blame George for weird or bad show adaptations. His legacy is protected from that. He just needs to focus on what he can control and that’s finishing his own damn books in the way he wants to. If he finishes ASOIAF then he’ll be on the Mt Rushmore. If he doesn’t finish it then he won’t be on the Mt Rushmore. It’s literally that simple.
Am I crazy or did Carmine say he had some hidden scoop on why George has been slow for the last 5 years?
I wouldn't call it a "hidden scoop" but i can't and won't go into more detail out of respect
@@OfficialRedTeamReview totally fair I respect it
I personally believe that George is not going to end the series, he is not only scared about the reception that may have, but also bcs he just can't. He lacks the motivation, the energy he once had and I think he is terrible sad that the story that will be his legacy (with or without ending) won't live up to anybody's expectations, not even his. Now he is just battling on how to say it or simply not to; so he can focus on enjoying life, he may be heatlhy but that does not mean he can't die tomorrow. The complications of writing of TWOW has never been about time, but about the actual story. I think the GOT series ending just showed that to him in the worst way posible.
I loved the 1000 worlds book club videos. Fevre Dream too. Also Preston was coping hard on the legacy thing