Remedy Planned Max Payne 3 AND Max Payne 4
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- / badgergoodger / badgergoodger / badgergoodger If Remedy hadn't let Max Payne go to Rockstar, there's a chance we could have gotten a MUCH different Max Payne 3, as well as a fourth game!
As much as I like Rockstar's Max Payne 3 for what it is, I definitely would've liked to see what Remedy's Max Payne 3 and 4 could've been if Take-Two Interactive didn't buy all the rights to the Max Payne brand from Remedy and Apogee.
I wonder if Remedy could still make their Max Payne 3 and 4s if done in a partnership with Rockstar as a publisher.
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I like how they ended MP3. Let the man have some rest. If anything they can do what Capcom is doing with Resident Evil and give the remakes some sequels.
The issue is resident evil is at least still making up to date games that keep the story going like re8 village.
Imo the fourth game going to be a John wicks situation
"Oh no you kill my adopted possum, gotta eat my pills and get revenge!"
I would like some plot on how the valkyr affect someone long-term (being a super soldier, super addicting steroid)😉
Max payne 1 and 2 are being remade by Remedy.
Thank god they didn't give him some crappy ending where he would finally kill himself with an overdose of painkillers or remain miserable forever
No way. No closure for Max Payne. He should stay hard boiled right to the bitter end. You don’t put a legend out to pasture. More Max! Max Payne 4 lyfe!
Max Payne 3 might not be perfect but I still love it and I'm excited about the remakes
Me too,and i hope they will add multiplayer for at least one of them too
@@nushnume I would love to see the multiplayer mode back but I don't think remedy gonna added it, I hope the other offline mods make a comeback.
@@mohamednail1707 Really enjoyed the multiplayer of 3 back in it's days. I think i played it for at least 1 or 2 years
It's already perfect
No game is perfect
I personally liked Max Payne 3 a lot, from it's gameplay to it's style and also storytelling, but I do feel like we could've had 4 games easy as 3's story felt like it went through 2 game arcs into 1.
I think 3 games was fine for a franchise like this. Max Payne is one of those franchises that's hard to expand upon due to how simplistic the gameplay really is. There's only so much you can do with bullet time and shoot dodge until it loses its cool factor and becomes repetitive.
@@fredster594 Unless you expand on the universe, Max finds a kid with similar skills or has a new family etc. There's plenty to do. You just need to understand Max Payne and devote to it.
And MP3 is the only one has multiplayer. Is still alive on PC and its so addictive.
MP3 was a good game, just not a good MP game imo. It justed lacked the vibe and was more of a generic 3rd person shooter. I replayed it recently and it didn't change my opinion.
@@Tw1s7 Yeah, I think the Max Payne series gets more expanded on more with the story than gameplay anyway.
I'm a very big fan of Max Payne 3 but I'd love to have see what Remedy's Max Payne 3 and 4 looked like. Very excited for the remakes.
Remedys not have euphoria ragdoll lol. The thing i love max payne 3 more is awesome euphoria ragdoll physics.
I have a hard time seeing Remedy releasing games so fast without sacrificing quality
Same. Especially that they're a small studio with just over 300 people and how complex game development has gotten.
@@themadtitan7603 Apparently they opened a second studio in Sweden. Maybe that's the reason they can be so effective?
@@minari99 When I looked it up earlier, it states they have over 300 people now so I don;t know if that includes the second studio or only their first.
I don't think it's gonna disappoint. Sam Lake really cares about those games and he's involved in the remakes too. They already have the storyline and level ideas so i guess it doesn't take that long to rebuild that with new graphics rather than having to think and design the whole game from scratch again
@Jay counterpoint; king of fighters had annual releases for 9 years while they were going bankrupt and being scrapped by a new owner. And sans kof2001 they’re all great. It’s more indicative of management skills than anything else.
i think if Max Payne 3 & 4 did happen under Remedy it would eventually be woven into the Alan Wake and Control universe, potentially with Max's bullet time being an actual super power like what Jesse, Alan, and Dylan have and Max would be headhunted by the FBC
That sounds cool AF.
You're speaking the level of Remedy Universe being Collide Together.
Sounds like a Different Story tied together under one universe
and what if they made alan wake kind of like a rocky/creed thing where max retires and alan continues on his legacy
Well they are kinda doing that
Spoilers
Alex Casey has been the max payne stand-in in Alan Wake's books, and according to the AWE dlc, Alan Wake somehow popped him into reality. Maybe Rockstar will give Remedy permission to Max Payne to change his identity to Alex Casey, or make a identical copy of Max Payne but with Sam Lake's Face which would be an entertaining callback. Maybe I'm being too optimistic.
max payne being an SCP would be awesome
Honestly, MP3 was one of the greatest. I freaking loved everything about it and that soundtrack by Health? Fucking masterpiece!
Saw them live and it was so intense
I understand that Max Payne 3 is awesome, but Sam Lake was Max Payne's soul, he wrote the story of the 1st one (where the character was visually based on him too) and the 2nd one, the third which Sam wasn't involved doesn't follow the other two and doesn't feel like Max Payne at all, maybe because that 2000's NYC dark atmosphere wasn't present, due to its obvious different location. I usually separate the first two games from the third one.
But anyway... another great video from Badger Goodger and his cool voice!
Max Payne 2 is still one of my 5 favourite videogames ever. a masterpiece.
It's the best Max Payne game out the series in my opinion 💯
Yes, I especially enjoyed escorting Vinny in the Captain Baseball Bat Boy suit and the fun house sections.
"It's been nearly a year since the Max Payne remakes were announced"
Man, time moves really fast
And nothing changes
@@topnotchadvice3375 I read this in Max Payne's voice for some reason
I'm gonna be honest Regardless of how you feel about Max Payne 3's story, I think the move out of NYC was a good idea because of how much of a interesting location Brazil is. The locations of Max Payne 3 are all very varied and colourful, which I like.
If Max Payne 3 and 4 were to be in NYC again (In this alternative timeline) Remedy/Rockstar would have had to work VERY hard to lean into seasons. I think the idea of Max not wearing his leather jacket during the summer is a good idea, as well as it being set during a VERY intense heatwave.
They might have also explored a bit into the State of New York, not just New York City, so they might have had Max in the Adirondacks and Catskills for some parts (for variation, would have also worked well for a game set in Spring to show the plants growing over the course of the game).
I actually like the idea of Rockstar originally wanting to set Max Payne 3 in Russia. If there's ever a Max Payne 4 I'd love to see them take the action to Russia. I kinda wanna see them go to London too. It'd be slightly unrealistic as the UK doesn't have many guns as Brazil or Russia, but it'd be interesting nonetheless.
Does anyone remember the creepy mission in max Payne 2 when your in the hospital and hearing a baby cry that always stuck with me
Yea hahaha. Nightmare sequences.
I was scared shitless as a kid.
the thing that i remember is holy hell Max survive alot of Fatal incident, from Bomb to fall out a building on his head
@@atk1152 It still blows my mind on how he survives the near the end of Part II and then the entire Part III of the campaign. Absolutely durable for a madlad.
@@universegaming1353 Guess he has a thick skull xD
@@universegaming1353 it's called plot armor
I love the series. Rockstar did great job with MP3, maybe not story-wise, but gameplay, music and level design at least. It did miss Sam Lake's metaphors from the 1st game.
I don't remember how marketing was for MP3 back then, it could be a reason for bad sales. But I'm sure as hell waiting for Remedy's remakes (just please no storyline in the collectibles lol)
Imo, 3 was doomed to fail. It cost as much as GTA 4 to develop. There was no way is max payne gonna make gta money
@@Channel9iNE This is why I'm terrified for the Max Payne 1-2 remakes. They're probably gonna get a ton of backlash from Rockstar fans who's only played Max Payne 3 that will make giant comparison videos and critique the games because they won't have the same budget, details and polish as Max Payne 3 had.
@@fredster594 Maybe. The og games had a good amount of details for the time, and Control has lots of nice details too. With enough development time I'd say the remakes will likely be able to give the same fidelity as 3
@@Channel9iNE But will it have the euphoria ragdoll physics that only Rockstar owns? The fantastic animation blending? the insane gore?
Hell Rockstar fans will probably give the remakes shit because they probably won't have the 4 weapon system of Max Payne 3 and they'll call the game "unrealistic" because of that.
In my opinion Max Payne 3 could have used less glitch effects...
I do kind of hope Remedy gets the chance to finish that quadrilogy somehow as the idea of long arc featuring different seasons sounds very interesting to me and it seems like their Max Payne 2 follow-up ideas had more to them than what Rockstar came up with in Max Payne 3. Maybe a co-project with R* as the publisher.
i play Max Payne 2 and 3 religiously. Max Payne 3 is a great game with timeless graphic's and set the ALL things GTA5 & RDR2 From RDRs Kill Cams and R*s attention to detail when it came to gunplay and making sure every moving piece actuates. Max Payne 2 if you revisit it and play it like Max Payne 3 its MEGA fun and again the graphics and gun ballistics and mechanics are on point. Max Payn3 3 was R*s best multiplayer games next to gta4 and midnight club L.A
I loved the story and the style of Max Payne 2 but I also loved the realistic animations of Max Payne 3... Personally I'm very much looking forward to new Max Payne games (and quality remasters)
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our max is now chilling in Panama and resting 🥹
Remedy has been doing great with their previous titles. Their creative direction and writing are top quality. Wouldn't be surprised if Rockstar decides to ignore Max Payne 3 and commission Remedy to finish the quadrology that if the remakes become commercially successful.
I do kind of hope they'd get the chance to finish that quadrilogy as the idea of long arc featuring different seasons sounds very interesting to me and it seems like their Max Payne 2 follow-ups had more going for them than what Rockstar came up with in Max Payne 3.
I just hope the Max Payne remakes gives remedy the attention to the brand they really deserve it all of their games are awesome especially control 2 being in development and Alan wake 2 i think remedy would be the new rockstar games or insomniac
Well, now they can't. RIP James, you were a legend.
It would been awesome if we got a new game using the same concept as Max Payne 1, investigating and being in the middle of a big conspiracy from the goverment. Loved that. Always loved how in the 00’s, Big Corporations were the main antagonists in video games.
Deus Ex, GTA2, World of Goo come to my mind. No wonder I'm anti-corporate now as an adult lol
hopefully the remake really hones in on that early 2000s aesthetic again.
@@Jeansowaty same here lmao Perfect Dark also helped me in that regard
I almost forgot about the Max Payne remakes. Its a shame what happened to the GTA trilogy, which is still not fixed, but hey since the source code leaked, is been awesome for modding. Can't wait to see how GTA Stars & Stripes is gonna turn out
I love Max Payne, kind of a bummer we won't get another title, at least the remakes are still happening (hopefully they're good)
If we saw a Max Payne 3 from Remedy I would have liked it to go full on whacko crazy.
Like Valkyr segment / morgue from MP 1 & 2. I would have wanted wild, unadulterated insanity filled with that wonderful, poetic prose Lake masterfully injects.
I hope we get a MP4 or spin off it's a shame MP3 didn't get the shine it deserved 😔💔
GTA V hype didn’t help as MP3 was released a year after the first GTA V trailer
It's one of those titles that since release gradually gained a huge cult following
3 is a masterpiece. I hope the remakes will have the same gunplay.
I really like Max Payne 3 but i like controll of first and second game more :)
It's the best TPS to this day imo
My ideal vision for Max Payne 4 is just Die Hard 1 but he’s a grey grandpa. Seems pretty perfect to me. Only other way I can see him picking up a gun again is an alien invasion and that’s a bit too much
Max Payne 3 is still one of my favourite third person shooters of all time. The gunplay felt amazing alongside some nice ragdolls, amazing atmosphere and music. I also like that Max finally got his well deserved rest, with that said I'd definitely play Max Payne 3 or 4 if Remedy made those as well. Both games they made were also very good so no reason for MP 3 or 4 to be bad.
Summer of Max, reminds me of the Summer of Sam, gritty and dark
The remakes are still in preproduction and apparently it's "going well", analysts predict 2026 release
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I'm so happy when you mention Splinter Cell conviction, I always thought that Sam Fisher and Max Payne were really alike
I was 12 when max payne 3 came out and it was my first game from the franchise
I love that game so much man, the multiplayer was so fun!!! I remember one time me and my pal spent an hour just laughing at the diving physics, jumping off buildings and into walls
God I really hope the remakes kick ass. I just hope they take their time with them and give us an amazing experience.
What I would like to see are events before Max Payne 1...that summer would be fine to it, like those were sunny, better days at NYPD.
Yes, Max Payne as an actual policeman, good old times. Not the depressing original we all know and love, but an innovation and original thing that does not go too far from that universe and story.
Oh wow, never thought about that before but that seems like an interesting idea. Maybe do it in rdr2 style where Max has his own mentor? That would be pretty cool
While I do really enjoy Max Payne 3 I would love to see remedy's take on a third or fourth entry in the series
I hope the MP1 and 2 remakes are a huge hit so they can retcon the series and continue with a 3rd and 4th game that Remedy write and develop. MP3 is a great game but it’s such a tonal shift that it doesn’t fit in the series imo.
i still love mp3. ive beaten it 4 times
If you play Alan Wake and Control carefully you will notice that Max Payne is there under new name (probably changed name after events of 1st 2 games and obviously because of copy rights) and he is FBI agent now and he is character of Alan Wake books who can to existence in reality due of Alan Wakes reality shaping abilities, and according to control he is investigating disappearance of Alan Wake and connection of his life to Alans Wake books. Most likely after release of remakes of Max Payne 1 and 2 and Alan Wake 2 we will find more connection and probably may see Max Payne 3 or 4 under new name that he has now in Alan Wake books and and in Control. But basically Max Payne post part 2 is character if Alan Wake books who came to exist in reality and self aware of being a character of fiction.
max payne 3 is a masterpiece. would love to see them make number 4
Will you ever cover any of the manhunt games please?! I would love to see you do so!!!
Father, we been waiting for you
"Rockstar took my story, twisted its soul, my heart sank as I watched it slip out of my control.”
“My anger toward Rockstar burned like a smoldering flame, fuelled by the shallow depths to which they had reduced my story. It was like they had stripped it of its heart and soul, leaving nothing but a shell of what it once was. I, found myself in a place of darkness, struggling to find my way out of the abyss that had consumed me. But even in my lowest moments, my anger burned fiercely, a reminder of what had been taken from me. And so, I vowed to fight back.”
- The real Max Payne probably
Not to mention you can't skip it, if you want just gameplay. Unskippable cutscenes in 2012, seriously? Why no grenades? Why game removes big gun i collected from an enemy and gives me fucking revolver?
How Max can shoot rockets midair? But wooow! 🥺 it looks so cooooool! No explanation needed 🤦
@@markyankovskiy28 throwing grenades was pretty clunky to use in the first two games
I loved the way Max Payne 3 played and I hope Remedy uses the same gameplay mechanics for the remakes, but the story and writing were just way too different from the other two games. With 3, it felt like Rockstar jumped so far forward in time that any references to the last two games felt more like afterthoughts.
I really would have liked to see what Remedy had in store for the series. I always thought their writing was far more interesting with the weird conspiracies they tied into the story.
The way Remedy wrote Max Payne as a character was also a lot cooler than how Rockstar did it in my opinion. In the first two games, he was a cynical film noir-style detective with an intellectual side, whereas in the third game he's more like a bitter, washed-up action hero.
Considering no Remedy game has been all that great since Max Payne 2, I can't honestly say it would've been better than what Rockstar did with Max Payne 3
If the remakes get enough traction + sales, we could see an installment from the series
Max Payne 3's gameplay was great but it had that typical rockstar writing style, where the humor was dirty and the tone was off kilter. Max originally was sarcastic, but never in a nihilistic way, he was always in tune and had great comedic timing while dealing with his issues. In mp3, he became a nihilistic asshole who was referencing Bagdad and g strings, that isn't Max at all. It made sense because they made him a self hating alcoholic with a opioid addiction, but he isn't the Max remedy created.
to me, its always made sense. Max may be more nihilistic and in a way "edgy" but thats simply the result of him going through what he did the last two games and going 10 years in the worst period of his life. And they never made him an alcoholic, he was one in max payne 2
Whoa. I never knew that about "Fall of Max Payne"
Love Remedy to death and I wish them the best, but that 'game every year' edict could hurt their quality.
If rockstar remastered Max Payne 3 before gta 6 releases then the sales wil surpass the original version
Man your videos are always so good. Also, I am a big fane of Max Payne. Can't wait for the remakes of 1st and 2nd game.
It's not made by Rockstar tho so don't have high expectations.
@@fredster594 Have you played Alan Wake or Control? They're very high quality for a studio the size of Remedy.
@@theslamdancekid I agree 💯. Besides, I am glad Rockstar is not in charge of those because they are not the same company they used to be back in the day. They care about nothing other than pleasing 12 year olds with GTA V even after a decade. Such a shame.
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I’m pretty sure that guy who leaked gta 6 mentioned that he had info that R* was working on a MP4 but we still don’t know if it was true
I perssonally would've liked it if Max Payne 3 showcased Max as a private investigator given his noir inspiration.
I wouldnt have Max Payne 3 any other way to be honest. I am curious how their sequels would look like.
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I loved max Payne 3 (2 is hands down my favorite and probably my favorite game I’ve ever played) but I always wished Rockstar took the Russia route instead of Brazil I know they tried to make this a different max Payne game but I think Russia would of fit so much better with Max and the gritty stories that Sam lake laid out before Dan took over
I loved all 3. I wish they'd bring back Max Payne 3's multiplayer on PS3
Weird that not many people saw connection between FALL and all the raining in game. Glad it made it to video!
Max Payne 3 was great. I still play it 11 years later so I don't know why do many people consider it to be a failure. It might not have met expectations in terms of sales, but still sold millions . Even as much as I hate watching cutscenes in video games there are several in MP3 that I still watch to this day. It probably has to do with it primarily being a single player game at the time of its release when everyone else was playing multi player games. I know MP3 has online play too, and I heard it was actually pretty good but out of the hundreds of hours I've played the game I never even attempted to play online. Single player mode is all I need
Damn Russia would have been dope for Max Payne 3, I still think that Rockstar will eventually make Max Payne 4, I mean why would Rockstar buy the ip if they were only gonna make one game, that would be quite dumb
It's the perfect place I would imagine for a mp game.
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@@coreycasciano3255 I imagine the story being people who were connected to vlad trying to kill mp for revenge like mp is being hit on.
It’s honestly quite fitting
Because they literally ended the story dude lol (what will even the next game about this time?. and Max will be in his 70s?💀). if they had left the ending open, that would explain for a sequel, but they literally completed Max's entire character arc. it makes absolutely no sense to continue from there, unless rockstar would be actually starving for money, which I know they aren't.
I still don't understand why so many people are begging for Max Payne 4 till to this day. like didn't you people completed MP3, and felt satisfied from it?. not every game needs to be a long branching franchise you know. some stories just ends on a perfect point
Can't wait for the remakes!
As much as I enjoyed Max Payne 3, it honestly served like a "stand-alone" title as not much references or connections are made with the first and second game.
To be fair, unless Remedy has some really amazing writing with some twist in gameplay, I can't see how they could extend what they ended with Max Payne 2. Not saying they aren't competent, but you got to know where your franchise will start to drag on.
When you think about it,Max Payne 3 took place during summer when speaking about the different seasons spanning per each sequel mentioned in the video
I believe if us as gamers and consumers keep telling devs via live chat or emails tell them constantly and consistently we need manhunt 3, midnight club 5, max payne 4 not just gta 6 rockstar don't need the money but can you imagine
I really like what R* did with Max Payne 3 the storyline gameplay was 🔥🔥🔥🔥 it was good they took it from Remedy. R* gave Max a purpose and soul like Corey Barlog did with Kratos in GOW PS4
Max Payne 3 is a closed book. It's a wrap, done! Now I don't wanna see these reboot woke madness and ruining the franchise like what happened to Saints Woke reboot
I howled when I hear the title "Max springs fordward" I dunno why it made me laugh that hard. LOL
IMHO, that the potential for a sequel to 3 depends on how well the Remakes sell. I definetely want it.
Also, as much as it hurts that T2 has the IP right, I think 3 was awesome in its own right.
Rest in Peace Jim.
Max Payne 3 was awesome and i wish some company would do a remake of it
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And he's got those calves!
1:16 He literally has a beer in the scene they are mentioning
That would be cool to see Max Payne 3 from Remedy, but Rockstar pleasantly surprised and gave Max something cute & unexpected: a vacation.
That man went through a lot, let him rest.
I've praised Max Payne 3 since the day it came out, it's still better than a lot of games coming out today in many ways
I always thought what if mona and max had an child together at the end of the max Payne 2 like maybe raise his child alone and let nothing happen to him like what happened to his daughter Rose maybe we could have had another videogame related to max Payne universe playing as the son of max i just thought these kind of things would've been really cool.
Would've been awesome to see max child like 10 years old at that point in the 3rd franchise
maxpayne is the first game i played in my pc , so this game is very special for me .
You are finally back! Yeees
3:32 I’m surprised to see grand concourse here lol
we could still get a Max Payne reboot game (or games) that tell the story of 9 years gap between 2003 (MP2) and 2012 (MP3)
but Rockstar just dont care, they are too busy making content for GTA online kids
They're definitely working on a new Max Payne game. and that red head girl from that other game.. Control. shes gonna be in it too.
This just reminded me of the Max Payne remaster. I wonder how thats going?
3:02 and it prominently features a song by "Poets of the Fall"
Sam lakes writing style for max Payne 1 and 2 is called Hard Boiled.
Max payne 4 could work if th story was like he adopting a son an train him to protect himself. But the plot was already use it in last of us and god of war
max payne 3 is such an underated game in my opinion its one of the best rockstar games ever made
Remedy's Max Payne 3 would have Max be starting to get in FBI as Alex Casey and would start to connect to paranormal stuff, Remedy's Max Payne 4 on the other hand would make or start to connect to Alan Wake as Remedy is starting a connected universe.
Rockstar should just give the IP back to Remedy since they’re doing nothing with it, they’re the original creators of Max Payne. Rockstar loves to start IP’s and then ditch them down the road after making one or two games. Only Red Dead Redemption and Grand Theft Auto gets special treatment. It’d be nice to see them revive an old IP or make something new.
Old games to this day hold themself pretty well, i would like to see next Max Payne set to between 2 and 3 rather than remakes or "4".
i want to see Max Payne prequil as a cop in NYC, doing bullet time as gameplay machanic and then add the hot coffee mod for michelle when he goes home
I'm honestly happier Remedy never made more Max Payne games. We got a lot more unique games instead. I wish more studios would experiment with new titles instead of squatting out endless sequels.
I really like max Payne 3. But also I really wouldn’t mind if they just retconned it and remedy got to make their own max Payne 3 and 4 and publish it under rockstar.
You can consider it a retcon or a branched timeline and the player can decide which rendition of max Payne they enjoy more.
I do really hope that Remedy takes their time to make the Max Payne remakes, because with the Dead Space and RE4 remakes, hell even Metroid Prime and that is just a remaster, but those works are not only that good to be as great as the originals but to elevate them and for some cases, bring new life to their franchises, so hopefully Remedy will do well
Max payne 4 by rockstar could
Take place in a alternate timeline
Where mona sax lived after mp2.
Although definitely far from the same as the first two. Absolutely love 3. It's was the modern die hard game I never knew I needed at the time.
They could split the canons and make a new Max Payne 3. It might get messy though. Just for the sake of seeing two different directions for the character, that don't conflict with each other. They don't need to add to the existing Max Payne 3 if they did that though, leave that as final in it's canon.
I still thought Max Payne 3 was alright though.
The best part about this video, is the way the TH-camr presents this video; their tone and voice reminiscence a bit of Max Payne's.
I actually did an impression of Max before! At the end of the other video I did about how MP3 was gonna be set in Russia
My friend and I have always wanted another Max Payne installment. Now is a great time! With John Wick, Nobody and the upcoming Sisu, he would do great! I'd really love another MP rather than GTA 6 or RDR3. R* said a few years ago that they would release another title before GTA 6. I was hoping it would be either MP4 or a true sequel to Manhunt(which is an unsung excellent title!). Love watching anything MP related....thanks for a great take on it!😊
Max Payne will always be in my heart. Would have been really interesting to see Remedy's version of MP3...? Overall though, I enjoyed 3 for what it is. And I'm excited for the remakes. Especially 2.
Alan Wake 2 is something I'm excited about as well. Loved the 1st/remaster.
"Hand me what you got Mister and you won't get hurt...."
O wait wrong game 😅.
Plot twist, Max Payne becomes an open-world action-adventure.