A few things...If you don't care about the topic, it's really easy to move on. You don't have to watch it or leave a comment. No one is forcing you. People who don't care about something typically avoid it. Some of you have misinterpreted what I said about not being able to make it through slavery during that time. Let me clarify. I have a tremendous amount of respect for our enslaved ancestors. It takes a lot of courage, strength, and perseverance to endure what they did. I have never been ashamed of my enslaved ancestors. On the contrary, I believe they made me who I am today and are the reason I am not only alive but also why I am able to walk in purpose. All of my accomplishments were made to honor my ancestors. Many of my videos mention that. With that said, some of us should really lose the idea that our ancestors sat around submitting all day. There were plenty who thought like me. They did many things to change their conditions besides just going with what they were told everyday. Some rebelled. Some fought. Some killed. Some were killed. Some simply did the best they could to survive. Also, I'm pretty sure some of y'all are commenting without watching the video lol. It shows. Finally, disrespectful comments will get you blocked. Most of you have been amazing and respectful. I appreciate your comments and support. New videos coming soon. Take care!
I enjoyed your video. I love biographies and genealogy- it’s why I love history. I appreciate very much what you shared w/us. Just found your channel and I subscribed!
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner I found it fascinating. I'm from Louisiana, but I found a book entitled, the Malungeons, by Kennedy I believe. Found in Chillicothe Ohio, reportedly many are there. As well , many in certain areas of Louisiana. I love these subjects. You know we are Heinz 57 here in Louisiana. I call myself a mutt , so many ancestors of different countries. Do you think 23 is best to find ancestry for heritage I guess you call it? Thank you for your time.
It’s absolutely 100% possible Gable had African American DNA inside his genes. How do I know that? Because I do and I’m as white as snow! My family came to America from England in 1630. In 1975 we had our genealogy done. The person doing the genealogy not only presented us with all the paperwork but also a picture book She found from the 1800s. There was one picture that fascinated us. It was a picture of a young man on his wedding day holding the hand of his beautiful African American bride. Yes people she was black!! The picture was taken in 1884 outside of Independence Missouri. I am a direct descendent of those two people!! I’m more proud of this story than I ever was about my English background!! In the final analysis we’re all related somewhere down the line. We’re all brothers and sisters. Love each other and care for each other.
BRAVO 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽😁. I HAVE MANY FLESHTONED RELATIVES. IT ALL BEGAN WITH ANCESTRY DNA. PPL FROM Ireland N ENGLISH PPK. I KNOW THATS ALL BC SOME MEN ONBOARD A SHIP RAPED MY RELITIVES COMING FROM AFRICA. IT REALLY TICKED ME OFF BUT NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT AT THIS STAGE. BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE ME HAPPY ABOUT IT THOUGH, IT INFURIATES ME TO NO END. I JUST HOPE THOSE MALES DIED A HORRIBLE DEATHS. I DON'T HATE THE COUSINS BC THEY DIDN'T DO IT. BUT THE MALES MAKE ME WONDER IF ANY OF THEM R ABUSERS TO FEMALES LIKE THIER ANCESTORS WERE TO HELPLESS WOMEN, CHILDREN ETC, N HOW MANY BLK BABY'S DID THEY KILL TO BRING MY ANCESTORS TO ENGLAND, UK, WELSH N WHERE EVER PPL LIVE IN VIKING AREAS??? TO THINK FLESHTONE PPL WANTS IN AMERICA TO GO BACK TO THAT WAY N LIFE MAKES ME 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮. WERE SUPPOSED TO GO AHEAD NOT BACKWARDS N 2022. ONLY THEM N ESPECIALLY THOSE IN THE SOUTH. THEY HAVE NEVER THOUGHT MUCH OF THEMSELVES SO THEY WANT TO RULE A GROUP OF PPL TO BEAT N SCREW N COOK FOR THEM N NURSE N RAISE THIER KIDS TO MAKE THEM FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELVES. WELL AAAAAHHHHH...N.O. NOT GONNA HAPPEN. THERE R SOME DOWN THERE TODAY THAT R MADDER THAN A HATTER THAT WE HAVE EXUCATIONS, IT REALLY IS. PLUS THEY HATE THIER OWN PPL THAT R NORTHERNERS. I HAD A HISTORY TEACHER ONCE THAT TOLD US ABOUT HIS TRIP TO GEORGIA. IT WAS A HARROWING STORY LET ME TELL U. HE N HIS BLACK WIFE NEVER WENT DOWN THERE AGAIN. HE'S DEAD NOW BUT HE WAS SCARED FOR HIMSELF N HIS QUEEN. THEY TOLD US THEY LIVED N FEAR HERE N BFLO. N.Y. FOR YEARS THINKING THEY'D BEEN FOLLOWED BACK HERE. THEY OUT CAMERAS ALL AROUND THIER HOME, N THEY HAD A BABY N WERE TRIPLE AFRAID. GOT A ROTTIE N A DO BBY FIR THIER EARS WHEN THEY SLEPT. THOSE PPL R A WHOLE MESS BELOW THAT MASON DIXIE LINE. U COULDN'T PAY ME TO LIVE DOWN THERE. NO IN DBL NO.‼️‼️👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🤷🏽♀️. WAS N.B HAM ALA. FOR A MONTH, MAN O MAN I WAS SOOO EXCITED TO BE HOME. I TOLD MY MOM ABOUT THAT N I NEVER WENT BACK THERE EVER AGAIN. NOOOOO BABY. FLESHTONED PPL R SO PITIFUL. POOR THINGS.
I have always thought that Clark Gable was Black even when I was a child. Because my Late Mother was as fair as Doris Day. She was always mistaken as as a white woman. She would always stand PROUD and say that she was of Black and Cherokee ancestry.
I've heard that Gable said he did not want the part because he felt that Gone With the Wind was a "woman's movie," and he was considered a very manly actor/man. He preferred to play in westerns and more of the "macho" type movies. But yes, it is true that Hattie McDaniel was nominated for an Oscar, and ultimately won, making her the first African-American to win the award. She was told she could not come to the award ceremony, and yes, Mr. Gable was furious and told them that if she could not come, then he would not come either. They allowed her. If you look it up on TH-cam, you can find her acceptance speech. Sidenote: you watched the movie, so you must know that her skill in acting was head and shoulders above most who have ever portrayed a character in any movie made before or since. She was born to act. Truly one of the very best that ever lived.
According to the "making of" documentary produced by Ted Turner, Gable originally turned down the role because he felt that expectations were too high and he would be criticized whatever he did. The book was an immediate best seller and EVERYONE saw him as Rhett, tho, so Selznick (producer) had to keep trying to get him. He was eventually persuaded to take the part.
Clark was German. My father was German and he had the same coloring as Clark. Who knows about the rest but I think he had a keen sense for social justice. I loved Hattie McDaniel and I agree with him for boycotting the premier if they had not allowed her to attend, I would had too!
One of the reasons Clark Gable hated Hitler in the Nazis so much was because his ancestry was german. He won the Oscar for Gone With the Wind but he stated when he was alive the proudest thing he ever had in his possession where his combat air medals from World War ii. It's not fair to castigate Reagan for staying home. His bad eyes prevented him from being the pilot most people don't realize Reagan used contact lenses most of his life.
Yes lawd, this was my FAVORITE movie along with Imitation of Life. But he was the real reason is watch only this movie A million times. Good Lord 🤷🏾♀🤦🏾♀🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰😏
One of my favorite movies just came to mind. Imitation of Life with Lana Turner. If you haven’t seen it you need to. It’s on point. Beautiful movie. ❤️❤️
That one’s on my Top Movies List. And for Spanish speakers, “Rosas Blancas Para Mi Hermana Negra”. Even though, a Latin American story, it tells about the race struggles of one family when the daughter wants to announce her plans to marry a black man. Get your box of Kleenex out.
I've been a Billie Holiday fan for 40+ years. I read a lot of books about her and remember reading that CG befriended her when she went to Hollywood. I don't think they were intimately involved but he did knock out a guy who racially abused her.
Always believe that this man was a true gentleman, and a true real man; God bless you. and be with our God, he was a human being not a race; and I love him.
I read that he did hit a guy about Billie Holiday and he even set in the back room with Hattie McDaniel at the Oscar cause during those days they didn't allow black at the Oscar and setting with white people and when she won the Oscar for best supporting actress,Clark had a celebration drink with her.Now he were a real strong America good man with pride.
@@willieedwards3732 I watched a documentary about all the people in Gone With The Wind and it spoke about how he was very protective of Hattie McDaniel on and off set. He was definitely ahead of his time. When it came to race he was bold.
I read that Elvis's mother had Jewish ancestry. Also, Elvis was a natural blond and dyed his hair black, so blue-eyed blonde and possibly Jewish. He sure didn't look black.
I read years ago that Elvis was of Melungan ancestry through his mother. Abraham Lincoln supposedly was too. Melungan was an isolated group of people that originated from a cross of Portugese, Native Americans & African Americans.
No matter what his color...Clark Gable was a drop dead gorgeous man. An interesting note here. Gable was very good friends with Hattie McDaniel. He would have breakfast at her house every Sunday when he was in town. Also, he initially turned down the roll of Rhett Butler because he refused to speak with a southern accent.
That Clark Gable was sexy!!! In 1982, I was 13 and watched Gone With The Wind for the first time. I had a crush on Clark and named my gold fish Clark Gable. My fish lived a lonnnnng time to be a gold fish that lived alone in a huge mayonnaise jar 😂😂😂😂
This is the reason Hattie McDaniel only allowed him to come to her parties. He was also the one who got Hattie in the theater when she won the Oscar, they wouldn’t allow her to even sit in the theater. He’s where “tall dark and handsome “ comes from in polite society
I look and thought I was mostly white. I always was told we had Native American blood. Had my DNA done and found no Native American DNA but had a small percentage of Sub Saharan African blood. My family is mostly from the South if you go back a couple generations. I would imagine that a huge percentage of whites and blacks from the South have exchanged DNA, some willingly, some unwillingly and some unknowingly. I think it is great. One more reason to Love not hate each other. We are cousins!
A lot of famous people looked beyond race & just saw the person! I just heard that Betty White, who sadly passed on NY Eve, had a variety show in 1954. She hired a young man named Arthur Duncan as a dancer. Problem was Arthur was a black man, and even though TV was black & white back then, Betty had been strongly encouraged to get rid of him as he couldn't "pass for white." Betty's answer?? Shevsaid, "Well I am.sorry that you feel that way, but Arthur is a wonderful dancer, so we are keeping him!!" After that she had him on even more! The sponsors fathers were ruffled but The Betty White Show was pulling in viewers! I never knew that until her death! Other celebrities who knew Betty said that she was a person who saw the person, not the color of his or her skin color! She was an animal activist too, who called for the end of animal testing! During Steve Harvey's show, "Little Big Shots: Forever Young," Steve got Arthur on his show to talk about the best woman he ever knew. He told Steve that was Betty White! She had decided that if he was going, she would be going too! So she could have been cancelled, just for keeping him on the show!! Steve had a surprise for Arthur; he had Betty White there!! Arthur sang & danced at age 83!! Betty was smiling from ear to ear!! She also was probably the first WOMAN to stand up against the, mostly male producers & sponsors run by men!! There are videos of them on you tube, tyoe: Betty White Arthur Duncan Steve Harvey!! Children come into this world pure. They do not show racism, antisemitism, sexism, unless they learned it from those around them. Betty's parents had to be very special people!!
@Benita Nelson My mother total me Dinah Shore had a black baby with George Montgomery. HE accused her of sleeping with a black man. She did not. She found out that one of her grandmother's was a black woman. If I remember this story right. My Goodness gracious it was years ago. My mom said, it was a big scandal back then. Dinah and George end up Divorcing. I think they gave the child up for adoption, how sad is that. It happened in my mother's generation. Story is on Duck Duck Go just checked, but not told like my mother that was alive when it happened. I believe my mother.
Dinah's Shore was also very plain as a little girl. The one photo I saw she couldn't be called cute Black or White. Maybe that's why her family sent her north from New Orleans to her Jewish New York cousins in the radio & recording industry.
I heard the same thing about Dinah Shore. It's sad. Back then they hid it. Now they consider themselves black even if they only have a small amount in their ancestry. And even though their black parent may have never been around, many are more proud of their black heritage than their white heritage. It's really weird. I feel I would feel more connected with the one that raised me and treated me well. Just sayin'
Clark Gable probably had some black or other non-white blood in his veins in the same way that any light skin or even brown skinned blacks have white in their ancestry. If he had Italian or Scilian in his blood that could also explain his darker complexion. Of course the Italians have Moorish ancestry. We're all mixed up.
Interesting analogy, I just think he was a good man. If you research Betty White she was another actress that took up for black people and paved the way for several people that were on her show to continue in their career.
I am as blond, green eyed and white skin as they come and my father was part black and both my parents were part native american so you can't always tell.
I was a Social Worker in Oklahoma and one of my clients, a black client, told me she had been Clark Gables nanny when he was young. At the time I had no reason to disbelieve her and just didn't connect that he was "passing" and I have read references he was of black heritage. She spoke so highly of him and said he visited often.
Mixed or not he was very striking. Most mixed race people are very nice looking.I come from a family of people who passed for White. I'm not ashamed at all. I don't pass for White myself. I'm good with that too. I love my rich dark skin.
Gable is one of MANY Melungeons in the entertainment industry (not to mention quadroons and octoroons being outed via social media); he was from eastern Ohio like myself (having Melungeon ancestry, he was a distant cousin).
Maybe I have black blood? I’d be proud; many of them are strong, intelligent, athletic, good looking and resourceful. They are an amazing race that even under long time persecution are thriving. Blacks are an amazing race.
I heard Clark Gable had black blood and he was passing. There were a few other top actors in Hollywood who was rumored to be part black. A lot of people don't know that the racist J. Edgar Hoover was part black. He had a black grandfather, and it was said that he had a close relationship with his black grandfather until his grandfather died when Hoover was a kid. When Hoover got older, he ended up hating his black blood, especially when he went to an Ivy League college. He tried to join "Skull and Cross" secret society, but they wouldn't allow him entry due to his bloodline being part black. When he was head of the FBI, the white agents use to call him "the n1993r" behind his back. I even read that Hoover had black relatives living in D.C. when he ran the FBI. He found out that those black relatives were telling people that they were related to him, and he threatened their lives!!!
Word is that a US based male Russan agent who specialized in sexually entrapping US males in intelligence and law enforcement, whilst on an assignment to entrap and set up a lower level FBl agent became aware of Hoover's own sexual peccadilloes and passed it upstairs. Hoover was then blackmailed for the rest of his career and through him the Russans learned of Sen. McCarthy and his bisexual activities and they blackmailed him also. Both were used by the Russans to sow chaos within US politics, intelligence, law enforcement, media and society via the infamous "Communist witch hunts", the "Red Scare" in Hollywood and the hunt for "moles" in US intelligence and law enforcement agencies, whereby the Russans sacrificed many low level assets and a couple big ones but had many deeply embedded highly placed assets remain undetected for decades. It's therefore possible that the Russans also discovered Hoover's racial ambiguity and used it against him, if there were any.
It's true, l heard one of J Edgar Hoover black cousin on tv mention that Hoover was his cousin. That was a long time ago. I can't remember the name of the show.
Great research. I remember watching a Hattie Mcdaniel youtube video showing her home in Calif. The content creator said that Clark would go over her home every Sunday morning for breakfast or brunch. Obviously he loved Black cuisine so maybe there was some genetics involved
Our family line is very similar; my grandmother was dark, she married a light skinned man and we are the branch of the tree that have lighter skin. We are also Black and Native American. Beautiful story. Very thankful for it. We live in a society, that sadly, we don't fit in to it. We simply enjoy life, and we know that God doesn't make any mistakes. ☺️💝
Clark is my favorite actor & now that I know how supportive he was of people of color, I love him even more. I believe Clark was white even though he is darker than me. I am black, we come in all shades. Clark would be invited to the picnic.
It doesn't surprise me. I went to a Parochial school and thought I was the only black in the school. While in the fourth grade, my parents told me that there were other blacks there but they were passing. This was in the 1970s.
I found a military record for my great grandfather and they have him down as white, but I have a picture of him and he definitely black, probably mixed. Ancestors on both side of my family were mixed with black, Indian and white . My great great great grandfather was William Ashworth. A very prominent “free black”. Our family “whited out two or three generations ago. I am so fascinated by my Ashworth heritage. They were a brave, successful and amazing family.
I remember watching Gone with the Wind when I was 6. I asked my mom whether Gable was one of us. She stated, "no". My inquiry became if she was sure considering he looked a lot like many of our relatives to include her grandparents. My uncle spoke up and told my mom to stop lying to me "because that man is one of us in hiding".
@Jeanette Johnson Christianity, Islam, & Judaism are religions. They don't have boundaries to membership. This Jews= a race myth has gone on for too long
@Judith Catlett how about Don Knotts, Pete Davidson, Julia Styles, Minnie Driver, Rita Ora, Phoebe Snow( Phoebe Ann Laub), Reese Witherspoon to name just
@Judith Catlett A few more Babe Ruth, Rita Ora, Don Knotts, Pete Davidson, Julia Styles, Reese Witherspoon, Phoebe Snow,(Phoebe Ann Laub birth name), & Minnie Driver to name a few stars.Wow when I saw Sophia Loren in the film House Boat @ 7 yrs old on a b&w tv she looked like a black lady with a latina accent to me.Family said she's Italian. Oh 😂😂😂 😂 Phenotypes know no ethnic/international borders.
He certainly has distinctive looks...and could pass as Italian, French Spanish Egyptian Arabic Black and Native American I'm not seeing a lot of Irish However we are all mixed . Just my opinion..but some of the best looking people are those that look like they're a mix of cultures....And there is only one Race....the human race
Clark was a complicated man. Unable to be faithful to his wives due in large part because of his fame, he had a tender heart and was always searching for a sense of family, friends and home. Breakfasting with Hattie was an example of that.
My father looked like Gable. Had black hair, almost black eyes. Hispanics would speak Spanish to him. Did a DNA test total English, Scottish, Norwegian.
That's my ancestry exactly. My father had jet black hair, brown eyes and a large nose. People thought he was Jewish. We are all one family and all interrelated.
Back then Pennsylvania was basically Quackers and Amish who didn't believe in slavery and was known for protecting slaves lived side by side with black people but there are alot of black people who have Irish and German heritage and looked white my great grandparents were mixed with Irish and and German their last names were Henry and Goggins that should tell alot they could have passed for white straight hair green and hazel eyes so it's just a thought
I recently got my ancestry dna test results in and I was surprised. So I always identified as being Caucasian with some native American ancestry because thats what I was told and was raised as. Well I got my results in and im 25% Scandinavian, 30% English, 21% native american, 10% asian,9% papuan, 5% African Cameroon/bantu people. So I was pleasantly surprised to find all the different ethnicities in my results. I was also shocked at the higher native american percentage yet amazed about the papuan from new Guinea which are considered non African black / Oceania I've watched a million dna results and never seen papuan show up. So I'm just a mixture of everything it seems. I'll also say I'm very happy about having all these awesome ethnicities in my dna but won't be trying to appropriate a culture that I have no idea about like so many of these folks do (whoa vicky for starters) ill just proudly say that I have ancestors of these many different and unique cultures and I will be very interested in learning more about them. Happy new years!
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner yeah blew my mind! Like how on earth did I get papuan? I've never seen or heard of anyone else getting that in their results. I sort of think since they are considered black that maybe they could have been brought over as slaves as well cause thats the only thing that would make sense because I'm from a very rural place in Kentucky and about all my family have been born and raised here at least back 5 or 6 generations and I just couldn't see a papuan person coming here willingly tbh. I also have another theory that perhaps they passed as native american and traveled here some how but unfortunately id say my first idea was right. Sadly all my elder relatives that may have a explanation have passed on. Another thing although I certainly hate to admit it is a few of the elders were pretty bigoted so they may not know and if they did they'd probably deny it especially my paternal grandma because her people were very racist and some were even members of a terrible organization (her great grandfather and grandfather) that's a part of my history i could do without even knowing. Funny thing is I've always been fairly ethnicly ambiguous and so is everyone on my paternal grandfathers side. I get more fair in the winter but I've gotten asked if I were asia,latina, Samoan, or native american so I guess now I can say I come from all the above with the exception of latina and somoan lol. I was definitely pleasantly surprised with my diverse results.
@@ahem....bullsheet3720 , if you have Asian DNA, it is not impossible that someone could have come from SE Asia, where they could have been mixed with Papuan, as Paupua/New Guinea is very close to many SE Asian cultures. Also, the first wave of white Australians came to the US in 1850. Any chance you have an Australian immigrant back there? If there was a mixed "white" person that immigrated here, that could bring Austronesian genetics to the U.S..
Now you know you are a person of color are you willing to give up our perceived white privilege on your job and in your social life. You are not unique many so called white people are not white at all. How does that effects you consciousness.
@@kaleahcollins4567 exactly thats my plan! I was very pleasantly surprised to find such diversity in my dna. I just didn't wanna be one of those people you see out here that find out they have other ethnicities in them then automatically assume they can just jump directly in to a culture without knowing anything about them or they try to reap the benefits of that particular race like college admissions and such. I just didn't wanna be that person but I'm very proud and im trying to learn all there is to know about them and where I got them from.
The Spanish Armada was a polyglot of people; Spaniards, Jews, North African, Italian, etc. They crashed on Ireland in 1588 & were integrated into Irish society. Indeed, these descendants are occasionally referred to as "Black Irish." The Jewish ancestry is questionable but possible. The question is, if he has Jewish forebearers when did they get their last name? This is due to Jewish people being denied family names until the 17th century. Fascinating stuff. Excellent video.
Theres an assumption that all British & Europeans were Caucasian white appearance, but there are many contemporary historical sources that confirm a black presence in Europe from roman times. There were black Welsh, Scottish & Irish in their history books /annals & Black germans at least from the 1300's & Black tudors in England & moors in Spain
This subject is common in America ,Germany etc.J.Edgar Hoover was black ,you can find his ancestors on youtube , they also wrote books on the subject.look up Sarah Lou Harris Carter ,she was my dads close kin.she refused to go as white. thousands if not millions of whites are really black. its very sad ,this entire subject.
As a southerner, I've heard about Melungeons all my life. I believe Clark Gable may have had some Melungeon ancestors, just like one of our home town favorites, Elvis. Both are incredibly beautiful men, no matter what quirk of DNA produced that combination of features. There is something similiar about their eyes. Elvis looked more like his mother than his father so that DNA came through her. There is a book by a woman who traced her ancestry to her Melungeon roots titled (I think) "Climbing my Family Tree." I read it several years ago so I've unfortunately forgotten the author's name. It has a great and interesting explanation of the myths and truths about Melungeons and her journey to find that part of her family.
It's been said Ava Gardner was of Melungeon ancestry as well. I agree, simply based upon appearances, think Gable resembles others with Melungeon ancestry.
Maxine you are spot on, there was even 5 Negro US Presidents before Obama and Michelle Obama was not the 1st black woman to sleep in the white house, I had a book on it.
William Clark Gable was born on February 1, 1901, in Cadiz, Ohio, to William Henry "Will" Gable (1870-1948), an oil-well driller, and his wife Adeline (née Hershelman). His father was a Protestant and his mother a Catholic. Gable was named William after his father, but he was almost always called Clark, and had Belgian and German ancestry, not African-American ancestry. Clark spent a lot of time outdoors, both in his youth and later as a film star, hence his dark tan, not unlike some other Hollywood actors such as George Hamilton, Cary Grant, Burt Reynolds, Bo Derek or Farrah Fawcett. They all had dark tans and they were all white.
I love this, you did a great job. My mom is white passing and my dad is very dark. We come in an array of colors. I believe he was half black, hid it to protect himself. I've heard he was half black all my life.
It just doesn't matter at all! A fine human who was steadfast in what he believed for the betterment of all. I had my DNA done, and I was shocked and delighted with all the countries and cultures my ancestors came from. It's time we embrace each other and celebrate our humanity because let's face it we all need each other no matter what.
Hi everyone. As a reminder, I am also doing a book club on my channel. The first book I featured was Christine Jacobsen's Dancing Around the Truth. I have announced a second book under my community tab this morning. I am currently listening to the audible book by Georgina Lawton. The memoir is called Raceless. Georgina, who looks Black, was raised by two white parents in the UK. Her mother is Irish, and Georgina grew up being told her looks were a result of a throwback gene due to the Spaniards invading Ireland many hundreds years ago. However, Georgina took a DNA test after her father passed away and discovered she was 43% Nigerian. I will be interviewing Georgina this month to discuss her book. This should be a great conversation. Make sure to get a copy of her book, Raceless, before the interview!
I've always heard about the Spaniards being dark skinned and when I visited Spain, to my utter shock, the Spaniards looked caucasian af. In fact they didn't look anything like the hispanics on this side of the pond
I will be interviewing Georgina Lawton this month to discuss her book. This should be a great conversation. Make sure to get a copy of her book, Raceless, before the interview!
I must say that I can't blame folks for passing. Look at how bad we were treated. I love this country, but we cannot ignore it's shameful past. I do not however, condone making any one race feel ashamed for being that race. I also will not punish anyone for crimes committed by their ancestors...... that is unless they are still practicing such behavior.
I am black, but I am also a apart of the Louisiana Creole community. There are a lot of people who were able to pass and left the south for a better life. I am born and raised in south Louisiana, particularly the Terrebonne/ Lafourche Parish, but my mom is from St. Landry parish where many left who could actually pass and no one know. Cane River in Natchitoches is an area where many could pass as well. I think my grandmother said that Clark Gable and Elvis were Melungeons. Also Johnny Cash’s first wife.
Wow! I just Googled pics of Johnny Cash's 1st wife Vivian. She is so obviously Black. Her hair is far from silky it has texture. In one pic she looks like she's sporting an afro! Not to even mention that her complexion is what a lot of Black people call "High Yella". Meaning Black with light complexion skin. Her broad nose and thick lips says it all also. One of their daughters has really curly hair. We all know that curly hair gets it's roots from Africa...no pun intended. Johnny Cash really loved her a lot to keep that facade up!🙂
I think his swarthy looks probably came from his Irish heritage. There were an group of Irish called the Black Irish, who had swarthy complexions and black hair. I don’t know if they were descendants of what group that migrated to Ireland, but an Irish native told me this bit of history. I have always told my former students that “Knowledge Is Power”; and that the power to know is as limitless as you make it.
When the Spainish Armarda tried to invade England in 1588 there were massive storms and a portion of the fleet were shipwrecked on the coast of Ireland. A lot of the surviving sailors were killed some stayed and married local girls.
So sad to hear about the tragic events surrounding Loretta's pregnancy, but so wonderful that she found the solution to keeping and raising her daughter. Loretta was a very smart and kind woman who did not let her terrible secret overshadow the love for her child. A very remarkable woman indeed. 😍
Great research on Clark Gable’s Ancestry. It would have been nice if he had sat down with Dr. Louis Gates for an Ancestry DNA. No doubt Gable was tall, dark and handsome, I too believed he may have had an African great grandparent somewhere. I know that Johnny Depp admitted having African Ancestry, a great grandmother I believe. Now, Carole Channing shortly before her death admitted that she had German and African Ancestry. When I saw a picture of President Jimmy Carter’s mother, I saw, despite her white skin, African features, hope they get a DNA. Thank you for your presentation on a man I have always admired and secretly loved.
Whether he was passing for white or not, what difference does it make now?And even if he did have black ancestry, doesn’t automatically discount all other ancestry.
Im into Ancestry as a hobby & was actually looking quite well at Clarks features prior to reading or hearing about this issue earlier today. I thought he had a strong Italian semblance in his faces bone structure, his eye placement and shape looks very German. I never saw anything about him that looked black.
Yup. My dad's family is Italian-Irish-French. Gable's features fit right in, so I tend to lean towards he was a white man, especially where his ancestry can be traced back to Europe on the paper trail.
Im very glad someone did this. Clark Gable and my father have a striking resemblance and I've always kinda wondered about him. My uncle had a photo taken of him and my father. They both looked like movie stars. I wish I had a copy of that photo to send you so you could see for yourself. Dad was born in Christinburg, Virginia 1915. One never knows what really went on and how Hollyweird would do whatever it took to cover the tracks of one of their biggest stars.
Okay, my name is Gable Young, no really. My last name was Gable but I took it as my first name when I married. Yes, I am a cousin of Clark Gable. His father known in my family not as William but as Willoughby would have been my great uncle. It is funny about this hypothesis because I wondered if I might have some black relatives in my background. I too, am dark. I have dark wavy hair and my skin tans easily. All of us Gable's are like that. So, recently I took a DNA test. You should know that the Gable family identifies as being PA Dutch. My DNA showed mostly English and even some Asian but no black DNA. Just to be clear, I would not have any problem with having black DNA, and yes, the movie "Gone with the Wind is incredibly racist. Clark's family immigrated from PA to Ohio, so no, I never met that part of the family but I do have a family portrait with Clark Gable's father. Just wanted to let you know.
Is the film racist or does it depict racism? Those are different things. I mean it would be hard to make a film set in the 1860s and have people driving cars rather than horses.
@@oldgoat1890 One theory of where Pennsylvania Dutch came from is that it originally was Pennsylvania "Deutsche " (German) which sounds similar to "Dutch". Another is that they were called that because they originally came from the Netherlands (Dutch) but are of German heritage.
It could be his his Irish ancestry was black Irish. The black Irish came into existence due to a shipwrecked Spanish galleon off the coast of Ireland. The survivors stayed and intermarried with the Irish. They are called black Irish as their hair, eye and skin color are much darker, but they are technically not considered to be black people. Initially, some Spanish people got a darker skin color when they were invaded by the Moors. You will need to look up the time lines of both the galleon shipwreck and the Moors invasion as I don't know those specific times.
Comic Broadway star, Carol Channing was told by her mother that Ms. Channing's father was of mixed African American and European parentage, which meant her grandmother was black. She didn't mention that publicly until a couple of years before her death.
My Grandparents were called "the other people" ..not white. What a sin that people are judged by the color of their skin, so happy my parents didn't rear me like that. Many Italians were treated so poorly and some hanged just for being Italian. . Will there ever be peace on earth?
The only good thing about the movie Miss Hattie McDaniel was the very first woman of color to receive a Academy Award for Best Supporting actress..She was a true queen and talented lady. May she Rest in Peace
Gone with the wind was the story of the Livsey family in Georgia. The men in the story were black men living as a white man. The Livsey family had a reunion in Snellville Ga where half the family that showed up were white and half were black. Imagine there surprise!
Who care what color Clark were,he was just a cool guy that didn't care what color a person were.He were just a man who liked everyone and didn't care what color one might be.Rest In Peace Mr.Clark Gable.
He was one of my favorites! The stories you shared of him as an activist for fair treatment for all makes me love him even more. I do not believe that he is Black either, though it would be lovely if he was. Every White liberal as you and I understand does not need to be Black, just decent. There were several in Hollywood throughout the years, who worked tirelessly for the equal treatment of Blacks in that industry. I agree, his losing his mom so early shaped his experiences. He probably wasn't treated well and felt left out quite a bit. He was a close friend of Hattie MCDaniel's and he attended her racially mixed parties at her famous mansion in California. They were lavish and attended by: Bing Crosby, and Esther Williams to name a couple. Fun fact Hattie McDaniel was the first Black to win an Oscar and she did it for that movie. When she died in 1952 she requested that it be donated to Howard University, but it's been missing since the 1970's the Academy Board refuse to replace it per Her great nephew. Thanks for doing this video, I learned a lot.
Clarke was probably part Mulongeon= Guineas= Black Dutch( people who originated from sub- Saharan Africa & migrated to Europe mixed with Native American). He had the same datk features as Elvis And Ava Gardner.
Elvis family history was Jewish his mom not black. Her entire family going back. The star is on her grave and history well recorded. He just hung out in black communities where he lived
Elvis's bloodline is Amerind , Cherokee to be exact. He was Mulongeon, i never said that he was black. Black Dutch is a term used to describe mixed raced European - Native Americans.
The daughter, Judy Lewis stated she met him ONCE as he came to see her at her mother's house...her mother had her ears pinned back to try to hide any resemblance but it was considered Hollywood's worst kept secret...she said even her husband heard the rumors before he met her...its a crazy story, even her mother pretended she was adopted, but she was her actual birth daughter....that would be an interesting video too
My sister-in-law recently took a DNA test and found out her father’s parents were of African ancestry. It was not evident from anyone’s appearance. Her father is deceased now but her whole life, she knew nothing about her grandparents. He would not talk about them and never visited them. She never even knew their full names. She was understandably surprised to learn this but still sad she never knew her grandparents.
My mom’s family was white-passing in the South, so I’ve experienced all the things you’re saying about family history and records. In my case, the family story was that they were Native American and not African-descended, to explain why they were so dark. But with DNA tests of many cousins on that family lines shows that we all have at least some African DNA, and no one except for me actually has any Native American, but that’s from my dad’s side.
At 77 yrs of age, I’m a live to tell you it really doesn’t matter. I remember the wife of a well known Evangelist saying, in time America would be a melting pot and the Race would all be the Golden Race. Being of fair skin with freckles, sound good to me. And I grew up right on the border separating white/black, I loved them as did my father. Hitched a ride on Patrons wagon ever chance I got. Years later ran across one of his family members & discovered, most of his children had college educations Lawyers, Doctors made their mark on society & assets to this country. God bless the races, we are all His children. He’s returning soon, we all need to get ready. Come LORD Come
It seems like anytime there’s a White person with dark hair, brown eyes, and who isn’t extremely pale, everyone wants to assume that they’re somehow “mixed with a little extra something.” Lots of Irish and Germans have his features. They’re not exclusively “poc” traits.
I am proud to have a black great grandmother in my lineage. I only wish I had gotten to meet her down in Peru, South America. I hope I will be able to trace her paper trail when I resume my genealogy project. My DNA shows we go back to Africa, as many people do. It was quite interesting to see my paternal grandmother’s sibling lineup; all but red hair. It’s truly amazing. I am glad that I got to meet all my great aunts and uncles in Peru. On the other hand, my maternal family is monotone in skin color, eastern European with a hint of what Genghis Kahn left behind in Ukraine or thereabouts. I found your presentation well done. Thanks for sharing!
The part of Rhett Butler was that he most definitely was a Yankee. He was a supplier and he got better prices from the Confederacy, who needed these goods and yes some were guns and such. The South was an agricultural based economy, while the North was industrialized. Also, the author was a fan of Gable and described Rhett looking like Gable. So the casting was simply hire Clark “Rhett Butler” Gable. People that read the book clearly knew the writer was describing Clark Gable. Did you know that Hattie McDaniel won an Oscar for her work in Gone With A Wind (Best Supporting Actress). She was the only black person to get an Oscar until Sidney Poitier won Best Actor in 1965. She had to sit at a segregated table at the side of the room where people wouldn’t see her. She was denied the chance to attend the Atlanta Premiere because it was shown at an all whites cinema. Gable may have protested the exclusion of McDaniel, but MGM had contracts with the cast, so things only happened the way MGM wanted. This movie was expensive for MGM, and they didn’t want a white protest which would have led to the movie tanking at the box office. Hattie was very talented and first became known as a singer. She released recordings between 1921 to 1929. She was also the first black to sing on radio. Sadly, she died at 59 due to breast cancer.
If you read the book you would know Rhett was from Charleston, SC, but the Butlers originally were from Ireland in the story. He was supposed to have been sent there as a youth to go to boarding school.
Thanks for sharing information on Clark Gable; had no idea he was for Civil Rights of blacks, made sure Ms. McDaniel could attend her Oscar presentation, had the desire to integrate bathrooms and black/white water fountains, etc. Truly a real man before his time and because of that will possibly watch Gone With The Wind. Not sure I can stomach all the racist junk/portrayals however.
It is quite possible that, not so nice, even jealous individuals, started the rumor because of Mr Gable’s acceptance of blacks being quite as equal, in all aspects, as himself.
What if Gabel’s advocacy for equal treatment did not come from experiencing discrimination or other abusive behaviors but simply from morality? What is he truly held that we are ALL God’s Children?
Patty McDaniels was the first black woman to get a academy award that is reason enough to watch gone with the wind also the cinematography and the acting is amazing it gives you an idea of what old films were like and it has a very symbolic story with it that sometimes love can be right in front of your face and you're so busy looking somewhere else that you don't see it till it's too late
Since I was neither born in the United States nor am I black, I don't think I relate to your experience at all. I lived my first 18 years of life in a Central American country where there was no distinction made by the color of one's skin. We had a Melting Pot of people in my country. Asians, Arabs, Jews, American and Latin American all survived together in my country. It wasn't until I came to this country in 1961 that I was introduced to the word "segregation". I learned the hard way. In my country, when the bus came to get us for school, I ALWAYS SAT IN THE BACK!!! Not because I was black or that it had something to do with the color of my skin; but that it was the most fun place to sit; especially when the bus hit a bump!!! I saw Gone WIth The Wind. I READ Gone with the Wind. There were some differences between the two. The only way I related to the slaves in the picture was through feelings. I felt the sadness and the curelty with which they were treated; but, what bothered me most is that the motioin picture didn't have a SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM and so, it stuck with me. I could not permit any black person who happened to be employed by my Southerns guests wait on me or treat me as if I were royalty. I didn't like it. And I vowed then and there never to treat anyone of any color different from how I wanted to be treated. Today, I am 79 years old and the division is not only between blacks and whites; but between blacks and blacks. Black children being killed in drive-by shootings (mostly in Chicago)! I pray every day that there will be a miracle and all of Martin Luther Kng's wishes come true!
Dude. Don't act like slavery didn't happen in Central America. You mentioned every group in your melting pot except the Africans that can be found throughout the region... Wonder why?
He seems to look very Irish to me, as they have black hair and light eyes. German people many times have olive complexions as Germany is not far from Italy. I’ve seen this in my own family. Perhaps Mr Gables kindness toward his costars and their rights stems more from him simply being a good person with kindness in his heart vs him being part African American. He just seemed like a good man that simply wanted equal opportunities for everyone.
As an Irish person borne raised and still living here I will say that is very true for a lot of Irish to have jet black hair and a sum what tan skin or tan in the summer.. its because at one point a lot of Spanish came here..hence the dark hair..a lot of people in my my own family have jet black hair comes from my grandfather..it's funny my daughter is half Brazilian and is dark with dark hair but her Irish uncle(my brother) and her second cousins have even darker hair then her..and my daughter even has a native Brazilian great grandmother!! I think its kinda cool how people can be a mix of lots of different ethnicity's! "They" say your more Irish if you have black hair rather then red 😆
Dear Dr. Trisha Varner, what a wonderful program you have created. I love hearing about peoples family trees and what it exposes. I appreciate your time and effort put into the GREAT production! I'm new to the program and glad I found it! I have come to realize that nothing is as it appears! Great job on Carol Channing!! About Clark Cable, this is news to me that Gable was considered black, but I wouldn't care. He was my Mom's time. After hearing your program I am in the camp that his "Dad" wasn't his Dad! I see NO resemblance between the two and his Mom certainly did not contribute to Clark being "tall, dark and handsome". Thank you, Dr. Varner, for posting this adventure! 🙏🏼✌🏼❤
A few things...If you don't care about the topic, it's really easy to move on. You don't have to watch it or leave a comment. No one is forcing you. People who don't care about something typically avoid it. Some of you have misinterpreted what I said about not being able to make it through slavery during that time. Let me clarify. I have a tremendous amount of respect for our enslaved ancestors. It takes a lot of courage, strength, and perseverance to endure what they did. I have never been ashamed of my enslaved ancestors. On the contrary, I believe they made me who I am today and are the reason I am not only alive but also why I am able to walk in purpose. All of my accomplishments were made to honor my ancestors. Many of my videos mention that. With that said, some of us should really lose the idea that our ancestors sat around submitting all day. There were plenty who thought like me. They did many things to change their conditions besides just going with what they were told everyday. Some rebelled. Some fought. Some killed. Some were killed. Some simply did the best they could to survive. Also, I'm pretty sure some of y'all are commenting without watching the video lol. It shows. Finally, disrespectful comments will get you blocked. Most of you have been amazing and respectful. I appreciate your comments and support. New videos coming soon. Take care!
Dr, have you ever researched Malungeons? Interesting
I enjoyed your video. I love biographies and genealogy- it’s why I love history. I appreciate very much what you shared w/us. Just found your channel and I subscribed!
@@roselee4445 Hi there. Yes. I have done some research on Melungeons.
@@Karen_G. Thank you and welcome!
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner I found it fascinating. I'm from Louisiana, but I found a book entitled, the Malungeons, by Kennedy I believe. Found in Chillicothe Ohio, reportedly many are there. As well , many in certain areas of Louisiana. I love these subjects. You know we are Heinz 57 here in Louisiana. I call myself a mutt , so many ancestors of different countries. Do you think 23 is best to find ancestry for heritage I guess you call it? Thank you for your time.
Regardless of whether or not Gable was of mixed race, one thing is certain, he was one hell of a fine looking man!
That he was
Yes he was
It is well known that he, and Miss Hattie McDaniel spent every Sunday morning over breakfast at her home. They were good friends.
That's what's up☺😚💝💘
Not that well known
And that breakfast prob was amazing.
@@hassanas.benjamin3818 I bet them GRITS were bussin. ❤
True
It’s absolutely 100% possible Gable had African American DNA inside his genes. How do I know that? Because I do and I’m as white as snow! My family came to America from England in 1630. In 1975 we had our genealogy done. The person doing the genealogy not only presented us with all the paperwork but also a picture book
She found from the 1800s. There was one picture that fascinated us. It was a picture of a young man on his wedding day holding the hand of his beautiful African American bride. Yes people she was black!! The picture was taken in 1884 outside of Independence Missouri. I am a direct descendent of those two people!! I’m more proud of this story than I ever was about my English background!! In the final analysis we’re all related somewhere down the line. We’re all brothers and sisters. Love each other and care for each other.
👏 👏 👏 Bravo!
Your last sentence is spot on.
Bless you dear...
I've been researching my line for years. It's so addictive. What a fabulous find and to have a picture of the couple. Congrats!
BRAVO 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽😁.
I HAVE MANY FLESHTONED RELATIVES. IT ALL BEGAN WITH ANCESTRY DNA. PPL FROM Ireland N ENGLISH PPK. I KNOW THATS ALL BC SOME MEN ONBOARD A SHIP RAPED MY RELITIVES COMING FROM AFRICA. IT REALLY TICKED ME OFF BUT NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT AT THIS STAGE. BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE ME HAPPY ABOUT IT THOUGH, IT INFURIATES ME TO NO END. I JUST HOPE THOSE MALES DIED A HORRIBLE DEATHS. I DON'T HATE THE COUSINS BC THEY DIDN'T DO IT. BUT THE MALES MAKE ME WONDER IF ANY OF THEM R ABUSERS TO FEMALES LIKE THIER ANCESTORS WERE TO HELPLESS WOMEN, CHILDREN ETC, N HOW MANY BLK BABY'S DID THEY KILL TO BRING MY ANCESTORS TO ENGLAND, UK, WELSH N WHERE EVER PPL LIVE IN VIKING AREAS???
TO THINK FLESHTONE PPL WANTS IN AMERICA TO GO BACK TO THAT WAY N LIFE MAKES ME 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮. WERE SUPPOSED TO GO AHEAD NOT BACKWARDS N 2022. ONLY THEM N ESPECIALLY THOSE IN THE SOUTH. THEY HAVE NEVER THOUGHT MUCH OF THEMSELVES SO THEY WANT TO RULE A GROUP OF PPL TO BEAT N SCREW N COOK FOR THEM N NURSE N RAISE THIER KIDS TO MAKE THEM FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELVES. WELL AAAAAHHHHH...N.O. NOT GONNA HAPPEN. THERE R SOME DOWN THERE TODAY THAT R MADDER THAN A HATTER THAT WE HAVE EXUCATIONS, IT REALLY IS. PLUS THEY HATE THIER OWN PPL THAT R NORTHERNERS. I HAD A HISTORY TEACHER ONCE THAT TOLD US ABOUT HIS TRIP TO GEORGIA. IT WAS A HARROWING STORY LET ME TELL U. HE N HIS BLACK WIFE NEVER WENT DOWN THERE AGAIN. HE'S DEAD NOW BUT HE WAS SCARED FOR HIMSELF N HIS QUEEN. THEY TOLD US THEY LIVED N FEAR HERE N BFLO. N.Y. FOR YEARS THINKING THEY'D BEEN FOLLOWED BACK HERE. THEY OUT CAMERAS ALL AROUND THIER HOME, N THEY HAD A BABY N WERE TRIPLE AFRAID. GOT A ROTTIE N A DO BBY FIR THIER EARS WHEN THEY SLEPT. THOSE PPL R A WHOLE MESS BELOW THAT MASON DIXIE LINE. U COULDN'T PAY ME TO LIVE DOWN THERE. NO IN DBL NO.‼️‼️👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🤷🏽♀️. WAS N.B HAM ALA. FOR A MONTH, MAN O MAN I WAS SOOO EXCITED TO BE HOME. I TOLD MY MOM ABOUT THAT N I NEVER WENT BACK THERE EVER AGAIN. NOOOOO BABY. FLESHTONED PPL R SO PITIFUL. POOR THINGS.
@Michael Knapp What the heck does Clark Gables genealogy have to do with yours?
There is a possibility he is Black Irish, a common term to describe people of Irish descent whose features are dark skin, black hair and eyes.
Could also be black dutch..our friend was
Black Irish is not a thing in Ireland and genetically there is no such group.
I have always thought that Clark Gable was Black even when I was a child.
Because my Late Mother was as fair as Doris Day. She was always mistaken as as a white woman. She would always stand PROUD and say that she was of Black and Cherokee ancestry.
I've heard that Gable said he did not want the part because he felt that Gone With the Wind was a "woman's movie," and he was considered a very manly actor/man. He preferred to play in westerns and more of the "macho" type movies. But yes, it is true that Hattie McDaniel was nominated for an Oscar, and ultimately won, making her the first African-American to win the award. She was told she could not come to the award ceremony, and yes, Mr. Gable was furious and told them that if she could not come, then he would not come either. They allowed her. If you look it up on TH-cam, you can find her acceptance speech. Sidenote: you watched the movie, so you must know that her skill in acting was head and shoulders above most who have ever portrayed a character in any movie made before or since. She was born to act. Truly one of the very best that ever lived.
The entire cast refused to go. They also refused to stay in the hotel because she wasn't allowed to.
According to the "making of" documentary produced by Ted Turner, Gable originally turned down the role because he felt that expectations were too high and he would be criticized whatever he did. The book was an immediate best seller and EVERYONE saw him as Rhett, tho, so Selznick (producer) had to keep trying to get him. He was eventually persuaded to take the part.
Yes, she was fantastic in the movie.
Clark was German. My father was German and he had the same coloring as Clark. Who knows about the rest but I think he had a keen sense for social justice. I loved Hattie McDaniel and I agree with him for boycotting the premier if they had not allowed her to attend, I would had too!
Amen
One of the reasons Clark Gable hated Hitler in the Nazis so much was because his ancestry was german. He won the Oscar for Gone With the Wind but he stated when he was alive the proudest thing he ever had in his possession where his combat air medals from World War ii. It's not fair to castigate Reagan for staying home. His bad eyes prevented him from being the pilot most people don't realize Reagan used contact lenses most of his life.
It doesn’t matter his nationality……he was VERY good looking.
If he did or didn’t, I don’t know but one thing I do know, he was one handsome man😍
Very handsome
YES!!!!
You need to get your eyes 👀 taken care of. He is absolutely “unattractive” and I’m putting it lightly.😳
He was fine as wine, even as an older gentleman!
Yes lawd, this was my FAVORITE movie along with Imitation of Life. But he was the real reason is watch only this movie A million times. Good Lord 🤷🏾♀🤦🏾♀🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰😏
One of my favorite movies just came to mind. Imitation of Life with Lana Turner. If you haven’t seen it you need to. It’s on point. Beautiful movie. ❤️❤️
That one’s on my Top Movies List.
And for Spanish speakers, “Rosas Blancas Para Mi Hermana Negra”. Even though, a Latin American story, it tells about the race struggles of one family when the daughter wants to announce her plans to marry a black man. Get your box of Kleenex out.
Yes it is
My mom and I absolutely love it
Love imitation of Life
@@debrasmith4623 Yes.The version with Lana Turner is my fave.
I've been a Billie Holiday fan for 40+ years. I read a lot of books about her and remember reading that CG befriended her when she went to Hollywood. I don't think they were intimately involved but he did knock out a guy who racially abused her.
Always believe that this man was a true gentleman, and a true real man; God bless you. and be with our God, he was a human being not a race; and I love him.
I read that he did hit a guy about Billie Holiday and he even set in the back room with Hattie McDaniel at the Oscar cause during those days they didn't allow black at the Oscar and setting with white people and when she won the Oscar for best supporting actress,Clark had a celebration drink with her.Now he were a real strong America good man with pride.
@@willieedwards3732 I watched a documentary about all the people in Gone With The Wind and it spoke about how he was very protective of Hattie McDaniel on and off set. He was definitely ahead of his time. When it came to race he was bold.
Some think El DeBarge favors Clark Gable. I use to wonder if Elvis Presley had any black ancestory.
I read that Elvis's mother had Jewish ancestry. Also, Elvis was a natural blond and dyed his hair black, so blue-eyed blonde and possibly Jewish. He sure didn't look black.
I read years ago that Elvis was of Melungan ancestry through his mother. Abraham Lincoln supposedly was too. Melungan was an isolated group of people that originated from a cross of Portugese, Native Americans & African Americans.
@@sheryldalton8965 Interesting info, thanks for sharing.
I read that both Elvis Presley and Ava Gardner had black ancestors.
No matter what his color...Clark Gable was a drop dead gorgeous man. An interesting note here. Gable was very good friends with Hattie McDaniel. He would have breakfast at her house every Sunday when he was in town. Also, he initially turned down the roll of Rhett Butler because he refused to speak with a southern accent.
That Clark Gable was sexy!!! In 1982, I was 13 and watched Gone With The Wind for the first time. I had a crush on Clark and named my gold fish Clark Gable. My fish lived a lonnnnng time to be a gold fish that lived alone in a huge mayonnaise jar 😂😂😂😂
To me, he has always had a striking resemblance to El DeBarge.
This is the reason Hattie McDaniel only allowed him to come to her parties. He was also the one who got Hattie in the theater when she won the Oscar, they wouldn’t allow her to even sit in the theater. He’s where “tall dark and handsome “ comes from in polite society
I look and thought I was mostly white. I always was told we had Native American blood. Had my DNA done and found no Native American DNA but had a small percentage of Sub Saharan African blood.
My family is mostly from the South if you go back a couple generations. I would imagine that a huge percentage of whites and blacks from the South have exchanged DNA, some willingly, some unwillingly and some unknowingly. I think it is great. One more reason to Love not hate each other. We are cousins!
You are so absolutely right Cousin!💙
I had a friend that called herself fruit of salad 😉 I just love fruit salad. Don't you 🍓🍒🍎🍉🍊🍍🍌🥗
A lot of famous people looked beyond race & just saw the person!
I just heard that Betty White, who sadly passed on NY Eve, had a variety show in 1954.
She hired a young man named Arthur Duncan as a dancer.
Problem was Arthur was a black man, and even though TV was black & white back then, Betty had been strongly encouraged to get rid of him as he couldn't "pass for white."
Betty's answer?? Shevsaid, "Well I am.sorry that you feel that way, but Arthur is a wonderful dancer, so we are keeping him!!"
After that she had him on even more!
The sponsors fathers were ruffled but The Betty White Show was pulling in viewers!
I never knew that until her death! Other celebrities who knew Betty said that she was a person who saw the person, not the color of his or her skin color!
She was an animal activist too, who called for the end of animal testing!
During Steve Harvey's show, "Little Big Shots: Forever Young," Steve got Arthur on his show to talk about the best woman he ever knew.
He told Steve that was Betty White! She had decided that if he was going, she would be going too! So she could have been cancelled, just for keeping him on the show!!
Steve had a surprise for Arthur; he had Betty White there!! Arthur sang & danced at age 83!! Betty was smiling from ear to ear!!
She also was probably the first WOMAN to stand up against the, mostly male producers & sponsors run by men!!
There are videos of them on you tube, tyoe:
Betty White Arthur Duncan Steve Harvey!!
Children come into this world pure. They do not show racism, antisemitism, sexism, unless they learned it from those around them. Betty's parents had to be very special people!!
I read every word of that. Thanks for sharing that information. I will have a look now. Interesting.
He was a rarity, a white man who looked at black people as people. Bless you, that makes you a brother in Christ
Not uncommon. The south is a stain upon the country.
I would love a story on Carol Channing who lived as white but was actually black. Also a rumor that Dinah Shore was passing as well.
Dinah was Jewish. I didn’t know about the African descent!
@Benita Nelson My mother total me Dinah Shore had a black baby with George Montgomery. HE accused her of sleeping with a black man. She did not. She found out that one of her grandmother's was a black woman. If I remember this story right. My Goodness gracious it was years ago. My mom said, it was a big scandal back then. Dinah and George end up Divorcing. I think they gave the child up for adoption, how sad is that. It happened in my mother's generation. Story is on Duck Duck Go just checked, but not told like my mother that was alive when it happened. I believe my mother.
Dinah's Shore was also very plain as a little girl. The one photo I saw she couldn't be called cute Black or White.
Maybe that's why her family sent her north from New Orleans to her Jewish New York cousins in the radio & recording industry.
I heard the same thing about Dinah Shore. It's sad. Back then they hid it. Now they consider themselves black even if they only have a small amount in their ancestry. And even though their black parent may have never been around, many are more proud of their black heritage than their white heritage. It's really weird. I feel I would feel more connected with the one that raised me and treated me well. Just sayin'
True dat--and they were not the only ones!!
Clark Gable probably had some black or other non-white blood in his veins in the same way that any light skin or even brown skinned blacks have white in their ancestry. If he had Italian or Scilian in his blood that could also explain his darker complexion. Of course the Italians have Moorish ancestry. We're all mixed up.
I have to admit Mr. Gable was and will always be a very attractive man .
He reminds me of my father,and already knew Mr. Gable a person of color, he looks exactly like my father's people.
Interesting analogy, I just think he was a good man. If you research Betty White she was another actress that took up for black people and paved the way for several people that were on her show to continue in their career.
I am as blond, green eyed and white skin as they come and my father was part black and both my parents were part native american so you can't always tell.
I know you heard alot of racist comments.
I was a Social Worker in Oklahoma and one of my clients, a black client, told me she had been Clark Gables nanny when he was young. At the time I had no reason to disbelieve her and just didn't connect that he was "passing" and I have read references he was of black heritage. She spoke so highly of him and said he visited often.
I don't think Gable, was passing, I think he was just a good man that couldn't stand to see anyone mistreated.
Mixed or not he was very striking. Most mixed race people are very nice looking.I come from a family of people who passed for White. I'm not ashamed at all. I don't pass for White myself. I'm good with that too. I love my rich dark skin.
I think he was just a person who felt that we all should have been treated with respect.
Gable is one of MANY Melungeons in the entertainment industry (not to mention quadroons and octoroons being outed via social media); he was from eastern Ohio like myself (having Melungeon ancestry, he was a distant cousin).
Maybe I have black blood? I’d be proud; many of them are strong, intelligent, athletic, good looking and resourceful. They are an amazing race that even under long time persecution are thriving.
Blacks are an amazing race.
I heard Clark Gable had black blood and he was passing. There were a few other top actors in Hollywood who was rumored to be part black.
A lot of people don't know that the racist J. Edgar Hoover was part black. He had a black grandfather, and it was said that he had a close relationship with his black grandfather until his grandfather died when Hoover was a kid.
When Hoover got older, he ended up hating his black blood, especially when he went to an Ivy League college. He tried to join "Skull and Cross" secret society, but they wouldn't allow him entry due to his bloodline being part black.
When he was head of the FBI, the white agents use to call him "the n1993r" behind his back. I even read that Hoover had black relatives living in D.C. when he ran the FBI. He found out that those black relatives were telling people that they were related to him, and he threatened their lives!!!
I have never heard that. I'm not saying it's not true, just that I haven't. J Edgar Hoover had many Secrets. He was as corrupt as they come.
Word is that a US based male Russan agent who specialized in sexually entrapping US males in intelligence and law enforcement, whilst on an assignment to entrap and set up a lower level FBl agent became aware of Hoover's own sexual peccadilloes and passed it upstairs. Hoover was then blackmailed for the rest of his career and through him the Russans learned of Sen. McCarthy and his bisexual activities and they blackmailed him also. Both were used by the Russans to sow chaos within US politics, intelligence, law enforcement, media and society via the infamous "Communist witch hunts", the "Red Scare" in Hollywood and the hunt for "moles" in US intelligence and law enforcement agencies, whereby the Russans sacrificed many low level assets and a couple big ones but had many deeply embedded highly placed assets remain undetected for decades. It's therefore possible that the Russans also discovered Hoover's racial ambiguity and used it against him, if there were any.
It's true, l heard one of J Edgar Hoover black cousin on tv mention that Hoover was his cousin. That was a long time ago. I can't remember the name of the show.
Great research. I remember watching a Hattie Mcdaniel youtube video showing her home in Calif. The content creator said that Clark would go over her home every Sunday morning for breakfast or brunch. Obviously he loved Black cuisine so maybe there was some genetics involved
Our family line is very similar; my grandmother was dark, she married a light skinned man and we are the branch of the tree that have lighter skin. We are also Black and Native American. Beautiful story. Very thankful for it. We live in a society, that sadly, we don't fit in to it. We simply enjoy life, and we know that God doesn't make any mistakes. ☺️💝
Clark is my favorite actor & now that I know how supportive he was of people of color, I love him even more. I believe Clark was white even though he is darker than me. I am black, we come in all shades. Clark would be invited to the picnic.
It doesn't surprise me. I went to a Parochial school and thought I was the only black in the school. While in the fourth grade, my parents told me that there were other blacks there but they were passing. This was in the 1970s.
Gone with the wind is one of my favorite movies. Oh you're right I couldn't have been born back them either.
Ava Gardner also befriended and defended blacks and was accused of being part black
I found a military record for my great grandfather and they have him down as white, but I have a picture of him and he definitely black, probably mixed. Ancestors on both side of my family were mixed with black, Indian and white . My great great great grandfather was William Ashworth. A very prominent “free black”. Our family “whited out two or three generations ago. I am so fascinated by my Ashworth heritage. They were a brave, successful and amazing family.
Clark Gable was a super good looking man just good looking
I got my DNA test back and it’s finally confirmed that I am a child of God.
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Amen me t o o
Good for you but on earth we’re given races as part of the bs social construct
Amen
Amen!
I remember watching Gone with the Wind when I was 6. I asked my mom whether Gable was one of us. She stated, "no".
My inquiry became if she was sure considering he looked a lot like many of our relatives to include her grandparents.
My uncle spoke up and told my mom to stop lying to me "because that man is one of us in hiding".
I always felt that way about Lorne Green, star on Bonanza. Glad I’m not the only one who sees things like that. Thank you to your six year old self.
@@judithcatlett8518 Lorne Green was Jewish from Canada.
@Jeanette Johnson Christianity, Islam, & Judaism are religions. They don't have boundaries to membership. This Jews= a race myth has gone on for too long
@Judith Catlett how about Don Knotts, Pete Davidson, Julia Styles, Minnie Driver, Rita Ora, Phoebe Snow( Phoebe Ann Laub), Reese Witherspoon to name just
@Judith Catlett A few more Babe Ruth, Rita Ora, Don Knotts, Pete Davidson, Julia Styles, Reese Witherspoon, Phoebe Snow,(Phoebe Ann Laub birth name), & Minnie Driver to name a few stars.Wow when I saw Sophia Loren in the film House Boat @ 7 yrs old on a b&w tv she looked like a black lady with a latina accent to me.Family said she's Italian. Oh 😂😂😂 😂 Phenotypes know no ethnic/international borders.
He certainly has distinctive looks...and could pass as Italian, French Spanish Egyptian Arabic Black and Native American
I'm not seeing a lot of Irish
However we are all mixed . Just my opinion..but some of the best looking people are those
that look like they're a mix of cultures....And there is only one Race....the human race
He could not pass as black LOL at most he looks middle eastern.
That's right.
I'm darker than a lot of lighter-skinned African Americans but am 100% Greek/Cypriot. Not all Caucasians are "white".
But your not Caucasian.
Clark was a complicated man. Unable to be faithful to his wives due in large part because of his fame, he had a tender heart and was always searching for a sense of family, friends and home. Breakfasting with Hattie was an example of that.
My father looked like Gable. Had black hair, almost black eyes. Hispanics would speak Spanish to him. Did a DNA test total English, Scottish, Norwegian.
That's my ancestry exactly. My father had jet black hair, brown eyes and a large nose. People thought he was Jewish. We are all one family and all interrelated.
Back then Pennsylvania was basically Quackers and Amish who didn't believe in slavery and was known for protecting slaves lived side by side with black people but there are alot of black people who have Irish and German heritage and looked white my great grandparents were mixed with Irish and and German their last names were Henry and Goggins that should tell alot they could have passed for white straight hair green and hazel eyes so it's just a thought
I recently got my ancestry dna test results in and I was surprised. So I always identified as being Caucasian with some native American ancestry because thats what I was told and was raised as. Well I got my results in and im 25% Scandinavian, 30% English, 21% native american, 10% asian,9% papuan, 5% African Cameroon/bantu people. So I was pleasantly surprised to find all the different ethnicities in my results. I was also shocked at the higher native american percentage yet amazed about the papuan from new Guinea which are considered non African black / Oceania I've watched a million dna results and never seen papuan show up. So I'm just a mixture of everything it seems. I'll also say I'm very happy about having all these awesome ethnicities in my dna but won't be trying to appropriate a culture that I have no idea about like so many of these folks do (whoa vicky for starters) ill just proudly say that I have ancestors of these many different and unique cultures and I will be very interested in learning more about them. Happy new years!
Wow. Those are very diverse percentages. Thank you for sharing. Happy New Year!
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner yeah blew my mind! Like how on earth did I get papuan? I've never seen or heard of anyone else getting that in their results. I sort of think since they are considered black that maybe they could have been brought over as slaves as well cause thats the only thing that would make sense because I'm from a very rural place in Kentucky and about all my family have been born and raised here at least back 5 or 6 generations and I just couldn't see a papuan person coming here willingly tbh. I also have another theory that perhaps they passed as native american and traveled here some how but unfortunately id say my first idea was right. Sadly all my elder relatives that may have a explanation have passed on. Another thing although I certainly hate to admit it is a few of the elders were pretty bigoted so they may not know and if they did they'd probably deny it especially my paternal grandma because her people were very racist and some were even members of a terrible organization (her great grandfather and grandfather) that's a part of my history i could do without even knowing. Funny thing is I've always been fairly ethnicly ambiguous and so is everyone on my paternal grandfathers side. I get more fair in the winter but I've gotten asked if I were asia,latina, Samoan, or native american so I guess now I can say I come from all the above with the exception of latina and somoan lol. I was definitely pleasantly surprised with my diverse results.
@@ahem....bullsheet3720 , if you have Asian DNA, it is not impossible that someone could have come from SE Asia, where they could have been mixed with Papuan, as Paupua/New Guinea is very close to many SE Asian cultures.
Also, the first wave of white Australians came to the US in 1850. Any chance you have an Australian immigrant back there? If there was a mixed "white" person that immigrated here, that could bring Austronesian genetics to the U.S..
Now you know you are a person of color are you willing to give up our perceived white privilege on your job and in your social life. You are not unique many so called white people are not white at all. How does that effects you consciousness.
@@kaleahcollins4567 exactly thats my plan! I was very pleasantly surprised to find such diversity in my dna. I just didn't wanna be one of those people you see out here that find out they have other ethnicities in them then automatically assume they can just jump directly in to a culture without knowing anything about them or they try to reap the benefits of that particular race like college admissions and such. I just didn't wanna be that person but I'm very proud and im trying to learn all there is to know about them and where I got them from.
The Spanish Armada was a polyglot of people; Spaniards, Jews, North African, Italian, etc. They crashed on Ireland in 1588 & were integrated into Irish society. Indeed, these descendants are occasionally referred to as "Black Irish." The Jewish ancestry is questionable but possible. The question is, if he has Jewish forebearers when did they get their last name? This is due to Jewish people being denied family names until the 17th century. Fascinating stuff. Excellent video.
Theres an assumption that all British & Europeans were Caucasian white appearance, but there are many contemporary historical sources that confirm a black presence in Europe from roman times. There were black Welsh, Scottish & Irish in their history books /annals & Black germans at least from the 1300's & Black tudors in England & moors in Spain
Most from the northern regions of the uk are genetically from viking descendents. Either from Denmark, Norway or Sweden.
This subject is common in America ,Germany etc.J.Edgar Hoover was black ,you
can find his ancestors on youtube , they also wrote books on the subject.look up
Sarah Lou Harris Carter ,she was my dads close kin.she refused to go as white.
thousands if not millions of whites are really black. its very sad ,this entire subject.
As a southerner, I've heard about Melungeons all my life. I believe Clark Gable may have had some Melungeon ancestors, just like one of our home town favorites, Elvis. Both are incredibly beautiful men, no matter what quirk of DNA produced that combination of features. There is something similiar about their eyes. Elvis looked more like his mother than his father so that DNA came through her. There is a book by a woman who traced her ancestry to her Melungeon roots titled (I think) "Climbing my Family Tree." I read it several years ago so I've unfortunately forgotten the author's name. It has a great and interesting explanation of the myths and truths about Melungeons and her journey to find that part of her family.
If you have ancestry that goes back to 1600's Virginia; chances are you have Melungeon ancestry.
I have never heard of this term thank you for educating me on this.
It's been said Ava Gardner was of Melungeon ancestry as well. I agree, simply based upon appearances, think Gable resembles others with Melungeon ancestry.
Elvis ' Mom had Cherokee ancestry.
This was not a rumor,he did have Black in his DNA. you can see it! So was J Edger Hoover.
You are full of crap, what do you THINK you see? Why do you like lies is that normal for you
Maxine you are spot on, there was even 5 Negro US Presidents before Obama and Michelle Obama was not the 1st black woman to sleep in the white house, I had a book on it.
Sure can see it,in his phenotype. No matter what, "Mother Africa," put a stamp on him.
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William Clark Gable was born on February 1, 1901, in Cadiz, Ohio, to William Henry "Will" Gable (1870-1948), an oil-well driller, and his wife Adeline (née Hershelman). His father was a Protestant and his mother a Catholic. Gable was named William after his father, but he was almost always called Clark, and had Belgian and German ancestry, not African-American ancestry. Clark spent a lot of time outdoors, both in his youth and later as a film star, hence his dark tan, not unlike some other Hollywood actors such as George Hamilton, Cary Grant, Burt Reynolds, Bo Derek or Farrah Fawcett. They all had dark tans and they were all white.
If Mr. Gable told Miss McDaneil about the truth of his ethnicity, Miss McDaniel took it to her grave!
I love this, you did a great job. My mom is white passing and my dad is very dark. We come in an array of colors. I believe he was half black, hid it to protect himself. I've heard he was half black all my life.
Same.
It just doesn't matter at all! A fine human who was steadfast in what he believed for the betterment of all. I had my DNA done, and I was shocked and delighted with all the countries and cultures my ancestors came from. It's time we embrace each other and celebrate our humanity because let's face it we all need each other no matter what.
Hi everyone. As a reminder, I am also doing a book club on my channel. The first book I featured was Christine Jacobsen's Dancing Around the Truth. I have announced a second book under my community tab this morning. I am currently listening to the audible book by Georgina Lawton. The memoir is called Raceless. Georgina, who looks Black, was raised by two white parents in the UK. Her mother is Irish, and Georgina grew up being told her looks were a result of a throwback gene due to the Spaniards invading Ireland many hundreds years ago. However, Georgina took a DNA test after her father passed away and discovered she was 43% Nigerian. I will be interviewing Georgina this month to discuss her book. This should be a great conversation. Make sure to get a copy of her book, Raceless, before the interview!
I've always heard about the Spaniards being dark skinned and when I visited Spain, to my utter shock, the Spaniards looked caucasian af. In fact they didn't look anything like the hispanics on this side of the pond
Yes. Most people I have seem from Spain have been very pale.
I will be interviewing Georgina Lawton this month to discuss her book. This should be a great conversation. Make sure to get a copy of her book, Raceless, before the interview!
@@LifewithDrTrishVarner some basque darker, some mixed with Moors, depending on location in Spain. Castillion very white
I must say that I can't blame folks for passing. Look at how bad we were treated. I love this country, but we cannot ignore it's shameful past. I do not however, condone making any one race feel ashamed for being that race. I also will not punish anyone for crimes committed by their ancestors...... that is unless they are still practicing such behavior.
Every time I see El DeBarge I think of Clark Gabel. I believe there’s truth to this.
Your so spot to on
I am black, but I am also a apart of the Louisiana Creole community. There are a lot of people who were able to pass and left the south for a better life. I am born and raised in south Louisiana, particularly the Terrebonne/ Lafourche Parish, but my mom is from St. Landry parish where many left who could actually pass and no one know. Cane River in Natchitoches is an area where many could pass as well. I think my grandmother said that Clark Gable and Elvis were Melungeons. Also Johnny Cash’s first wife.
Yes, absolutely correct! My ancestors were from around Cane River too. I'm also Louisiana Creole.
You are right
Johnny Cash first was definitely black. They always talk about 2nd wife.
Wow! I just Googled pics of Johnny Cash's 1st wife Vivian. She is so obviously Black. Her hair is far from silky it has texture. In one pic she looks like she's sporting an afro! Not to even mention that her complexion is what a lot of Black people call "High Yella". Meaning Black with light complexion skin. Her broad nose and thick lips says it all also. One of their daughters has really curly hair. We all know that curly hair gets it's roots from Africa...no pun intended. Johnny Cash really loved her a lot to keep that facade up!🙂
Lots of people “pass” for one thing or another. I don’t care he was a very handsome man.
I think his swarthy looks probably came from his Irish heritage. There were an group of Irish called the Black Irish, who had swarthy complexions and black hair. I don’t know if they were descendants of what group that migrated to Ireland, but an Irish native told me this bit of history. I have always told my former students that “Knowledge Is Power”; and that the power to know is as limitless as you make it.
When the Spainish Armarda tried to invade England in 1588 there were massive storms and a portion of the fleet were shipwrecked on the coast of Ireland. A lot of the surviving sailors were killed some stayed and married local girls.
My Family's black Irish very dark eyes and skin , the family claims to be gypsy , maybe it's true . I'm sadly blonde !
So sad to hear about the tragic events surrounding Loretta's pregnancy, but so wonderful that she found the solution to keeping and raising her daughter. Loretta was a very smart and kind woman who did not let her terrible secret overshadow the love for her child. A very remarkable woman indeed. 😍
To me, he and Cab Calloway had a similar look. Thanks for the research!
NOPE he favors Adam Clayton Powell you will see and FYI he is one of many... you thank US Sanctioned SlAVERY 1619-1865.
Great research on Clark Gable’s Ancestry. It would have been nice if he had sat down with Dr. Louis Gates for an Ancestry DNA. No doubt Gable was tall, dark and handsome, I too believed he may have had an African great grandparent somewhere. I know that Johnny Depp admitted having African Ancestry, a great grandmother I believe. Now, Carole Channing shortly before her death admitted that she had German and African Ancestry. When I saw a picture of President Jimmy Carter’s mother, I saw, despite her white skin, African features, hope they get a DNA. Thank you for your presentation on a man I have always admired and secretly loved.
C’mon Clark standing up for human rights for decency’s sake
Whether he was passing for white or not, what difference does it make now?And even if he did have black ancestry, doesn’t automatically discount all other ancestry.
Im into Ancestry as a hobby & was actually looking quite well at Clarks features prior to reading or hearing about this issue earlier today. I thought he had a strong Italian semblance in his faces bone structure, his eye placement and shape looks very German. I never saw anything about him that looked black.
He looks a bit like Thurgood Marshall. He looks like people in my family. He could definitely be mixed with Black blood.
Yup. My dad's family is Italian-Irish-French. Gable's features fit right in, so I tend to lean towards he was a white man, especially where his ancestry can be traced back to Europe on the paper trail.
Im very glad someone did this. Clark Gable and my father have a striking resemblance and I've always kinda wondered about him. My uncle had a photo taken of him and my father. They both looked like movie stars. I wish I had a copy of that photo to send you so you could see for yourself. Dad was born in Christinburg, Virginia 1915. One never knows what really went on and how Hollyweird would do whatever it took to cover the tracks of one of their biggest stars.
J Edgar Hoover was passing as white.
True
Okay, my name is Gable Young, no really. My last name was Gable but I took it as my first name when I married. Yes, I am a cousin of Clark Gable. His father known in my family not as William but as Willoughby would have been my great uncle. It is funny about this hypothesis because I wondered if I might have some black relatives in my background. I too, am dark. I have dark wavy hair and my skin tans easily. All of us Gable's are like that. So, recently I took a DNA test. You should know that the Gable family identifies as being PA Dutch. My DNA showed mostly English and even some Asian but no black DNA. Just to be clear, I would not have any problem with having black DNA, and yes, the movie "Gone with the Wind is incredibly racist. Clark's family immigrated from PA to Ohio, so no, I never met that part of the family but I do have a family portrait with Clark Gable's father. Just wanted to let you know.
There are no "Pennsylvania Dutch". They are Germans.
Is the film racist or does it depict racism? Those are different things. I mean it would be hard to make a film set in the 1860s and have people driving cars rather than horses.
@@oldgoat1890 One theory of where Pennsylvania Dutch came from is that it originally was Pennsylvania "Deutsche " (German) which sounds similar to "Dutch". Another is that they were called that because they originally came from the Netherlands (Dutch) but are of German heritage.
Wel that settles that Next
@Gable Young. Have you met any of the Clarks?
It could be his his Irish ancestry was black Irish. The black Irish came into existence due to a shipwrecked Spanish galleon off the coast of Ireland. The survivors stayed and intermarried with the Irish. They are called black Irish as their hair, eye and skin color are much darker, but they are technically not considered to be black people. Initially, some Spanish people got a darker skin color when they were invaded by the Moors. You will need to look up the time lines of both the galleon shipwreck and the Moors invasion as I don't know those specific times.
Comic Broadway star, Carol Channing was told by her mother that Ms. Channing's father was of mixed African American and European parentage, which meant her grandmother was black. She didn't mention that publicly until a couple of years before her death.
My Grandparents were called "the other people" ..not white. What a sin that people are judged by the color of their skin, so happy my parents didn't rear me like that. Many Italians were treated so poorly and some hanged just for being Italian. . Will there ever be peace on earth?
The only good thing about the movie Miss Hattie McDaniel was the very first woman of color to receive a Academy Award for Best Supporting actress..She was a true queen and talented lady. May she Rest in Peace
I read years ago that David Jansen, the original 'Fugitive' was Clark Gable's son.
Gone with the wind was the story of the Livsey family in Georgia. The men in the story were black men living as a white man. The Livsey family had a reunion in Snellville Ga where half the family that showed up were white and half were black. Imagine there surprise!
Really that's so interesting
Who care what color Clark were,he was just a cool guy that didn't care what color a person were.He were just a man who liked everyone and didn't care what color one might be.Rest In Peace Mr.Clark Gable.
So, he was of mixed European decent. A decent man, who stood up for his black brother's and sister's.. Got it!!!
He was one of my favorites! The stories you shared of him as an activist for fair treatment for all makes me love him even more. I do not believe that he is Black either, though it would be lovely if he was. Every White liberal as you and I understand does not need to be Black, just decent. There were several in Hollywood throughout the years, who worked tirelessly for the equal treatment of Blacks in that industry. I agree, his losing his mom so early shaped his experiences. He probably wasn't treated well and felt left out quite a bit. He was a close friend of Hattie MCDaniel's and he attended her racially mixed parties at her famous mansion in California. They were lavish and attended by: Bing Crosby, and Esther Williams to name a couple. Fun fact Hattie McDaniel was the first Black to win an Oscar and she did it for that movie. When she died in 1952 she requested that it be donated to Howard University, but it's been missing since the 1970's the Academy Board refuse to replace it per Her great nephew. Thanks for doing this video, I learned a lot.
Clarke was probably part Mulongeon= Guineas= Black Dutch( people who originated from sub- Saharan Africa & migrated to Europe mixed with Native American). He had the same datk features as Elvis And Ava Gardner.
Elvis family history was Jewish his mom not black. Her entire family going back. The star is on her grave and history well recorded. He just hung out in black communities where he lived
@@ednaatluxton4918 Moorjani 2011 Harvard...ALL Jews tested had African Genome going back several generations..
Elvis's bloodline is Amerind , Cherokee to be exact. He was Mulongeon, i never said that he was black. Black Dutch is a term used to describe mixed raced European - Native Americans.
The daughter, Judy Lewis stated she met him ONCE as he came to see her at her mother's house...her mother had her ears pinned back to try to hide any resemblance but it was considered Hollywood's worst kept secret...she said even her husband heard the rumors before he met her...its a crazy story, even her mother pretended she was adopted, but she was her actual birth daughter....that would be an interesting video too
My sister-in-law recently took a DNA test and found out her father’s parents were of African ancestry. It was not evident from anyone’s appearance. Her father is deceased now but her whole life, she knew nothing about her grandparents. He would not talk about them and never visited them. She never even knew their full names. She was understandably surprised to learn this but still sad she never knew her grandparents.
How sad. And how rich her life could have been for knowing them.
My mom’s family was white-passing in the South, so I’ve experienced all the things you’re saying about family history and records. In my case, the family story was that they were Native American and not African-descended, to explain why they were so dark. But with DNA tests of many cousins on that family lines shows that we all have at least some African DNA, and no one except for me actually has any Native American, but that’s from my dad’s side.
How about Confederate President Jefferson Davis' wife Varina? His rivals all gossiped that his wife was a mulatto
She looked like Sade.
At 77 yrs of age, I’m a live to tell you it really doesn’t matter. I remember the wife of a well known Evangelist saying, in time America would be a melting pot and the Race would all be the Golden Race. Being of fair skin with freckles, sound good to me. And
I grew up right on the border separating white/black, I loved them as did my father. Hitched a ride on
Patrons wagon ever chance I got.
Years later ran across one of his family members & discovered, most of his children had college educations
Lawyers, Doctors made their mark on society & assets to this country.
God bless the races, we are all His children. He’s returning soon, we all
need to get ready. Come LORD Come
I agree with your comment 100 percent!!!! Thank you for sharing.
May GOD BLESS YOU AND OTHERS!
It seems like anytime there’s a White person with dark hair, brown eyes, and who isn’t extremely pale, everyone wants to assume that they’re somehow “mixed with a little extra something.” Lots of Irish and Germans have his features. They’re not exclusively “poc” traits.
I am proud to have a black great grandmother in my lineage. I only wish I had gotten to meet her down in Peru, South America. I hope I will be able to trace her paper trail when I resume my genealogy project. My DNA shows we go back to Africa, as many people do. It was quite interesting to see my paternal grandmother’s sibling lineup; all but red hair. It’s truly amazing. I am glad that I got to meet all my great aunts and uncles in Peru. On the other hand, my maternal family is monotone in skin color, eastern European with a hint of what Genghis Kahn left behind in Ukraine or thereabouts.
I found your presentation well done. Thanks for sharing!
The part of Rhett Butler was that he most definitely was a Yankee. He was a supplier and he got better prices from the Confederacy, who needed these goods and yes some were guns and such. The South was an agricultural based economy, while the North was industrialized. Also, the author was a fan of Gable and described Rhett looking like Gable. So the casting was simply hire Clark “Rhett Butler” Gable. People that read the book clearly knew the writer was describing Clark Gable.
Did you know that Hattie McDaniel won an Oscar for her work in Gone With A Wind (Best Supporting Actress). She was the only black person to get an Oscar until Sidney Poitier won Best Actor in 1965. She had to sit at a segregated table at the side of the room where people wouldn’t see her. She was denied the chance to attend the Atlanta Premiere because it was shown at an all whites cinema. Gable may have protested the exclusion of McDaniel, but MGM had contracts with the cast, so things only happened the way MGM wanted. This movie was expensive for MGM, and they didn’t want a white protest which would have led to the movie tanking at the box office. Hattie was very talented and first became known as a singer. She released recordings between 1921 to 1929. She was also the first black to sing on radio. Sadly, she died at 59 due to breast cancer.
If you read the book you would know Rhett was from Charleston, SC, but the Butlers originally were from Ireland in the story. He was supposed to have been sent there as a youth to go to boarding school.
He did not have "southern ways" because of spending a large portion of his youth in Ireland.
Thanks for sharing information on Clark Gable; had no idea he was for Civil Rights of blacks, made sure Ms. McDaniel could attend her Oscar presentation, had the desire to integrate bathrooms and black/white water fountains, etc. Truly a real man before his time and because of that will possibly watch Gone With The Wind. Not sure I can stomach all the racist junk/portrayals however.
It is quite possible that, not so nice, even jealous individuals, started the rumor because of Mr Gable’s acceptance of blacks being quite as equal, in all aspects, as himself.
I live in a home that always looked at gone with the wind, my grandpa look just like Clark Gable down to the cleft in his chin
What if Gabel’s advocacy for equal treatment did not come from experiencing discrimination or other abusive behaviors but simply from morality? What is he truly held that we are ALL God’s Children?
I personally never cared what Clark Gable was he was a great actor rest in peace rest in power
Patty McDaniels was the first black woman to get a academy award that is reason enough to watch gone with the wind also the cinematography and the acting is amazing it gives you an idea of what old films were like and it has a very symbolic story with it that sometimes love can be right in front of your face and you're so busy looking somewhere else that you don't see it till it's too late
Ms. Hattie McDaniels
Since I was neither born in the United States nor am I black, I don't think I relate to your experience at all. I lived my first 18 years of life in a Central American country where there was no distinction made by the color of one's skin. We had a Melting Pot of people in my country. Asians, Arabs, Jews, American and Latin American all survived together in my country. It wasn't until I came to this country in 1961 that I was introduced to the word "segregation". I learned the hard way. In my country, when the bus came to get us for school, I ALWAYS SAT IN THE BACK!!! Not because I was black or that it had something to do with the color of my skin; but that it was the most fun place to sit; especially when the bus hit a bump!!! I saw Gone WIth The Wind. I READ Gone with the Wind. There were some differences between the two. The only way I related to the slaves in the picture was through feelings. I felt the sadness and the curelty with which they were treated; but, what bothered me most is that the motioin picture didn't have a SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM and so, it stuck with me. I could not permit any black person who happened to be employed by my Southerns guests wait on me or treat me as if I were royalty. I didn't like it. And I vowed then and there never to treat anyone of any color different from how I wanted to be treated. Today, I am 79 years old and the division is not only between blacks and whites; but between blacks and blacks. Black children being killed in drive-by shootings (mostly in Chicago)! I pray every day that there will be a miracle and all of Martin Luther Kng's wishes come true!
Dude. Don't act like slavery didn't happen in Central America. You mentioned every group in your melting pot except the Africans that can be found throughout the region... Wonder why?
Tall,dark and handsome. Just what women were looking for.
He seems to look very Irish to me, as they have black hair and light eyes. German people many times have olive complexions as Germany is not far from Italy. I’ve seen this in my own family. Perhaps Mr Gables kindness toward his costars and their rights stems more from him simply being a good person with kindness in his heart vs him being part African American. He just seemed like a good man that simply wanted equal opportunities for everyone.
As an Irish person borne raised and still living here I will say that is very true for a lot of Irish to have jet black hair and a sum what tan skin or tan in the summer.. its because at one point a lot of Spanish came here..hence the dark hair..a lot of people in my my own family have jet black hair comes from my grandfather..it's funny my daughter is half Brazilian and is dark with dark hair but her Irish uncle(my brother) and her second cousins have even darker hair then her..and my daughter even has a native Brazilian great grandmother!! I think its kinda cool how people can be a mix of lots of different ethnicity's! "They" say your more Irish if you have black hair rather then red 😆
My hairs relatively straight, and I’m oddly pale to be mixed.
But I also see your point. It could be any combination of things.
Just saying
The Black Irish were deported to Jamaica by Oliver Cromwell in the 1600s. They are known as Jamaican people now.
Dear Dr. Trisha Varner, what a wonderful program you have created. I love hearing about peoples family trees and what it exposes. I appreciate your time and effort put into the GREAT production! I'm new to the program and glad I found it! I have come to realize that nothing is as it appears! Great job on Carol Channing!!
About Clark Cable, this is news to me that Gable was considered black, but I wouldn't care. He was my Mom's time. After hearing your program I am in the camp that his "Dad" wasn't his Dad! I see NO resemblance between the two and his Mom certainly did not contribute to Clark being "tall, dark and handsome".
Thank you, Dr. Varner, for posting this adventure!
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