I’m 63. Years ago, they tried to “accuse” singer Dinah Shore of being black in order to hurt her career. Shore came forward and made a statement. She said she was not black but would be proud if she was indeed black or had black heritage. After that, no one said a word. She silenced her haters by showing they could not shame her.
Dinah Shore was a believing Jew, but liked to attend services in Black Churches, since she felt people there were deeply and emotionally worshiping G-d.
Dinah Shore had a black child. Confused, her husband thought she cheated and divorced her. Dinah discovered her mom was part black. I heard she sued her mother for keeping that secret. (That sounds a bit dramatic, doesn't it?!) Still, that did not quite explain her child being black to her husband. So he did a DNA test and discovered. HE WAS THE FATHER! Then, they discovered her husband had Black genes also!! (Tragically, the child was sent to be cared for at some institution. They said he was mentally challenged. I prayed for that kid when I heard about it. ) This was back in the days BEFORE all the fake news, so although covered up, when it came out, we think the story is true. People need to come to terms with the fact that we are all descendants of Noah, and all related! Was Babe Ruth multi-ethnic ? Everyone is. Some phenotypes show different dominant genes. Does it matter? No. He did what he had to do to work, live, and play ball. Minorities want recognition whenever possible because so much has been stolen. I get it. It does not have to be this way if people would stop the "division for the attainment of wealth, power & control. We would just be people celebrating the accomplishment of humanity. Pray.
Much love and respect for sister Dinah Shore. It also tells me she didn't go along with fucktard racist bull crap. Maximum respect to all people who stand up for what is truly right.
This reminds me a lot of how Lady Gaga handles transphobic comments today. I think Anderson Cooper asked her once if she has a penis - she basically said something that boiled down to "I'm not dignifying that with a response. My fans don't care, neither do I, and I don't think it would be so bad." It's so great when people with platforms and privilege do what they can to destigmatize others.
I'm 67 years old and I remember some people being upset that Hank Aaron encroaching on Babe Ruth's home run record. If it is true that Babe Ruth had a mixed race background, that would be the epitome of irony. 😊
An alternative would be that he just wasn't an asshole. I mean, Marylin Monroe, the Beatles and multiple other historical figures did believe that segregation was bullsh*t. Either way, it's an interesting story
When I was in the 3rd grade, our class had to do a book report on a famous black person for Negro history week. (I'm 64 now and back then we were given a week to celebrate Black History and it was called Negro History Week). In our school library, I had a hard time deciding which book to choose so I wasted almost the entire hour. After the teacher announced it was time to leave, I hastily selected a book with an illustration of a baseball player on the cover and checked it out. Once we were back in the classroom, my teacher looked over every students' book and when she saw mine, she exclaimed "Baby Ruth is a white man!". I was embarrassed because the class laughed and all I could say was, " He looks like a black man to me. " His features came across as a black person to my 8 year old eyes. The name of the book is the 'Babe Ruth Story'.I had relatives in my family that had quite similar features and they were black so I thought he was black also.
Ty Cobb was famously quoted as saying I'm not rooming with that n word in reference to babe Ruth if you look at babe Ruth you know come on now let's stop playing😂😂
His mother was most likely off spring from the white master, and the saga continued with her birthing him by a white man also, Babe was able to live a life by " passing" white folks yall have been had!!😂
I'm from Baltimore born there Babe Ruth's home was about a 10 min walk from my Granny's house, she said that man was black and they all knew it..his house was on Saratoga Street, around the corner from Edgar Allen Poe's house. All the old folks said Ruth was a black man, and they loved him....I was born in the 60's so lots of them old folks were kids when Ruth played..they knew the secrets..the streets always know whats going on!
Test his DNA and dispel all the rumors. He may have been the 1st Black player in the Major Leagues not to take anything from one of my heroes, Jackie Robinson, but this may be true.
You can say more because you're from that city, but my understanding is that Baltimore, especially in the time period when Babe Ruth would have grown up there was very segregated. So, where his parents lived would reveal a lot. There were written covenants to keep Blacks and Jews out of certain residential areas of Baltimore. @winstonp.prescott3845
I'm 55. In the 90s my father told me Babe Ruth was black. I didn't believe him, as was my pattern with my father. He passed away in 2007 and so much of what he used to tell me is resurfacing in my life. He would have watched this video and felt somewhat vindicated. In the 90s, he pretty much was the only one saying Babe Ruth was black in our circle. My father must have heard talk about Babe Ruth in Harlem, where we are from. I wish I would have valued his perspective. My father was such a treasure. Awesome video. Thanks for sharing it.
Thank you for your comment. If I called my Dad, "a treasure," I would sound pretentious to myself. When he passed, I told my pastor, "We didn't always see eye to eye." We didn't. Only years later did I realize that we didn't always see eye to eye because he taught me to think for myself: that's priceless. I think of him every day.... So, in your comment, you mentioned a pattern of not believing what your Dad said. I don't think that was really the case - that you didn't believe him. You just inherited a healthy skepticism from him - he taught you to think for yourself. Concerning the Babe, my Dad never gave an opinion about the icon's heritage. Still, I've looked at the photos over the decades and read about the abuse he endured - being called a gorilla and worse. I tried to accept that a poor Irishman could come into the World with the Babe's features. I didn't know he frequented Harlem or had a reputation for engaging with women of color. Even now, this is hearsay to me based on just this report. Still.... If he was bi-racial, yet able to "pass" because of his complexion, his prodigious talent, his giftedness made it evident that he should have been competing at the highest level and should have been compensated as he was for his performance. I'm glad he was allowed to play - whatever his ancestry - and I'm glad society has matured to the extent that it has. Again, thank you for your response and giving me a place to make mine....
My Great Grandfather's name was Ruth and his father was a white man named Robert Ruth and his mother an enslaved African woman. They lived in South Carolina and Georgia and my mother said some of the children (she had 4) were light enough to pass. Babe Ruth did not have any children nor did they speak of a father. My mother said that they often went to DC and Maryland to Pass and she believed he was a relative!
He grew up in an orphanage. In the north. He didn’t care. Look at his hair, it’s straight and dark it’s not curling like top ramen. He was ahead of his time. Blacks always come up with crazy things like we wuz kangz and we ruled Egypt. But yet Egyptians are middle eastern looking, and if you look at African blacks they live in mud huts still and let cows kiss on their head.
He he passed for "WHITE". That is why he hated AFRICAN AMERICANS SO! DID THAT SO NO ONE WOULD NOTICE HIM. HOOVER came from a lot of incest. Was a pedophile and his Lover that was pedophile also. The would pick up boys of the STREETS OF NOLA against their will and their way with them.
J Edgar Hoover was definitely NOT mixed race. His family came forward and spoke on how he went out of his way to hide his racial identity. What’s disgusting is the agenda he perpetuated against Black People during his time. His actions have affects that reverberate throughout America to this day.
My Japanese spouse, a baseball fan who was not aware of the timeline of integration in Major League Baseball, just told me that she always assumed that Babe Ruth was Black. I honestly have never heard any of this and it is fascinating. Thank you!
You should ask her about emperor Meij... the guy who helped turn Japan into an imperialist state. He looked suspiciously black too... I'm almost wondering if the powers that be aren't hybridizing certain people, and then using them to infiltrate different cultures. Divide and conquer.
Why is every other race allowed to have a sense of definition, yet black is this loose term to one drop everyone? This is why the black race isnt respected throughout the world. Its blank plus black s black, but its really the one drop rule, which is the child assuming the inferior parents racial stock.
@DIAMONDGIRL57 he might have been mixed. A lot of mixed people passed as white. My Great Grandmother did and she was half Native American. Back then you are checking white on the census if you can get away with it.
@@mvp6692 Anyone with an actual level of self-respect and dignity would never live in societies where they're treated as second class. My family ((on my father's side)) are Native American as well, and they stuck with their own communities on reservations. They would of never lowered themselves to live in those societies.
When I was growing up in the 70's, my mom talked about 'Babe Ruth', and how she always thought he was black or African American, because of his features and athletic skills. Fast forward, I saw a documentary about his life a few years ago, and in the documentary, it was said, that allegedly his father was black, also The Babe, would frequent black brothels, when traveling from city to city, he loved 'Soul Food' and that he would give money to a lot of black orphanages. He had no problems with socializing with the black community. I believe The Babe, was so called African American. But whether he was or wasn't he was one of the greatest baseball players of all time and had a genuine love for his fans of all races.
i had a grandmother who could pass for white and my gf was dark they were married and they could not walk on the same side of the street..together..during Jim Crow era..
My maternal grandparents passed for white! My maternal grandmother was Cape Verdean,Portuguese & Spanish & my maternal grandfather was Miqmak Indian,Nova Scotian,Canadian,African American & European descent & my father who was very very dark nearly black skin was Afro-Latino American of Puerto Rican descent! And believe it or not,my paternal 3rd cousin was Roberto Clemente!
@@javielalvarez5459 Babe Ruth was German. People who think he has black ancestry are just seeing what they want to see. Ty Cobb was a paranoid racist who just hated Ruth because he was a better player than he was, so he made up that rumor.
@@javielalvarez5459 Babe Ruth was German. He had no African ancestry. People who say otherwise are only seeing what they want to see, like Ty Cobb, who was a paranoid racist.
Thanks, this was ìnsightfull. My great grandmother was born in Kansas in 1878. We know she was biracial and adopted by a white family. Her adoptive parents passed her off as white. In 1900 her adoptive parents and 8 siblings immigrated to Canada because the USA was dangerous for her. She married a white man and had 5 white kids. My grandfather was the only one of his siblings to have a brown child who was born in 1945 in British Columbia. I did not understand why my great grandmother's race was a family secret. I am proud to be her decendent.
I am from the Muscogee Creek Nation, I have black relatives on both sides of my family. My great great great grandfather on my father’s side was born in Indian territory before it was Oklahoma..
My husband has similar looks with the broad nose and full lips. He is German and Norwegian. His dads parents came over from Germany, and both his mother's parents came from Norway.
It's hard to fully imagine this world that's not too long ago. It seems like not only being black was a problem but making sure you don't look black or associate with blacks was important too.
@@SmokeNGunsBBQ Yep...you'd be surprised, how many whites had black grannies. It was easier for men to pass, if they had straight hair.. It's mostly the hair I know a man, who looked like his mom He looked very Chuck Norris like Later, his black wife shown me a picture of his dad's mother She looked like a Lena Horne type Also, no one questioned Eisenhower It could be, because he was a general.. And helped desegregate the military
It the 1930s Babe went on a world tour playing exhibition games. When he visited Hilo, Territory of Hawaii (not a state yet!) he played an exhibition game with my grandfather who was captain of one of the city teams. I still have the pics from the local paper with both of them posing for the camera.
I was there in Hawaii at that time I remembered seeing him also smh people sure do come up with stories I'm not saying you are lying but I love to see that pic as well
Danielle , I have never followed sports very closely , but think about this irony ---- when Hank Aaron was getting close to overtaking Babe Ruth in homeruns , Hank got alot of hate-mail and also death-threats because he was going to break a "White mans " record !!
I do believe he set the record for the most letters ever delivered to a private individual by the US post office. It was in the vicinity of 900,000 letters (If my memory serves me correctly). About one-third of those letters were of the unpleasant kind.
@@carapo66 My music teacher (who coached Little League in Oakland, Ca) knew Mr. Aaron personally. Mr. Aaron allowed him to read some of the letters he kept as proof to how sick white america was. He said, Mr. Aaron held no hate in his heart against them.
I, honestly, find it much harder to believe that someone who is both famous AND consciously trying to pass as white would so openly socialize with black people/culture. Its seems perfectly logical to me either he was white and just happened to have "black" features. Or that HE was lied to about his own heritage. As has been known to have happened.
In fact my grandfather taught me he was , but he wasn’t gonna make it so he had too . Mind you we’re from Louisiana, those old ppl knew who was passing
YEP!!! Sad people had to pass. Most came from non- consensual bodily relations. Not relationships. FACTS GOT TO COME OUT!!! FIND THE 1965 " EBONY MAGAZINE" " 6 MILLION WHITE NEGROES" ❗❗❗WE know it others need to learn it.
@@etruscancivilization lmao if you think he looked black with a capital B your stupid with a capital S lmao you are the typical “we wuz kangz and shieeet” not everyone was black
5:20 ? There were many black people who were integrating into society such as musicians and probably other areas. Of course his face looks odd if his dad was full blooded German and perhaps the stigma was more that he was MIXED. IOW, it would mean somewhere back down the line that the pure, white blood had been "tainted" by someone sleeping with a person of color. So, in that regard, I can see the problem. If he'd been HALF black, there would probably be no problem because by 1920, there were many half black people in the USA.
This is mind blowing. I have a friend who is a young man. His father is Black and his mother is white. But I had not known his father was black when I met him, when he was then 8 years old. He had curly blonde hair, but a round face and a wide nose similar to Babe Ruth. I thought he was a sweet white kid and nothing more. I am a black woman. Years later after he was in his 20s he revealed to me that he was African American and had a hard time in college when he tried to talk about racism and a white person told him he had no right to talk about African Americans. He said, "my dad is black." But he said everyone in his college class didn't believe him, and were mad that he kept insisting he was African American. Imagine that, even now "passing" is an issue. This young man is proud of who he is. He is half black, half white, just like my children. But everyone calls my kids black, and they call him white, based on appearance.
A peurto rican I talked to years ago was like my sister is blonde (he looks "latino") and he also has another brother or sister and they look like a black person. So what would they have done.
America sucks. You guys have zero grasp of human populations, science and the concept of being " mixed " i hope you teach your children theyre biracial.
I am so glad that you posted this video. When I saw the notification I immediately clicked because about 20 years ago eyewitness news, before the commercial break said, "when we come back, was Babe Ruth really black? See the story when we come back!" And I waited until the very end and they never even mentioned his name again. My family and I were talking amongst each other and we figured that they probably caught a lot of flack from certain segments of the public. Thanks for covering this!
You have a very interesting and unique channel, touching subjects that might be on the sensitive side for many these days. I've just subbed. Good content here. 👍
The way they treated him after baseball, may proved that they thought he was black. They treated him horribly, they wouldn’t even allow him to coach in baseball..
These stories being generated are from socialists for the purpose of rewriting American history to fundamentally change America for the New World Order by disassociating America from its known past.
Babe Ruth's father was German. Babe Ruth looks German. He has the hair of a Black Irishman. His mother is Irish. Black Irish is not Black - it means dark haired and dark features, ie., not a ginger . If Babe Ruth was black it would be apparent in his hair, which was straight a shiny, and his hands. Pigments in his hands would be the easiest to identify without needing to catch him coming out of the shower. No one can keep a secret like that
My friend MANY people have kept that secret. It's called being passing and it happened often in a world where segregation was so brutal it was a threat to your life and livelihood.
I wonder why they always erase groups like the Spanish or Mexican as I’ve got my entire life and they’re always being ignored and these sort of comments
Exactly! I have no problem imagining him as a grumpy German, or other Central/Eastern European. Then again, with darker skin, sure he could pass for African too, there are so many "types", body and face shapes in Africa, they are all there.
In Leigh Montville's book The Big Bam, the author stated that when Ruth was on his death bed in the hospital shortly before his death, he had a statue of St. Martin de Porres near him. Martin de Porres is the patron saint of mixed race people and African Americans, as well as race relations.
I love this! Henry Louis Gates says that Black Americans, a huge number of us, have at least 20% of our DNA shared with people categorized as “white”. So, where are the white people who are nearly a quarter Black? Our White ancestry didn’t occur in a vacuum. I think They’ve hidden this part for centuries due to the societal ramifications.
I took a DNA test, and my ancestry came out 64% European, 30% Native American, and 4% Sub Saharan African. I look white but while I knew that I am part Native, the black DNA was a surprise. I find it quite interesting. Ironic that in this age of DNA testing that some bigoted white people show some black ancestry. ONE RACE, THE HUMAN RACE, BE GOOD TO EACH OTHER!
Babe Ruth's grandchildren and their children are still with us. Situations can NOT crop up that are so important to force DNA tests. My grandfather, his mother and his grandfather have the exact same nose at Babe Ruth. They were all Welsh. Good video!
One of Ruth’s daughters was biologically his. She was born out of wedlock from one of his extramarital affairs, but he adopted her anyway. She didn’t know until much later that her adoptive father was actually her biological father.
Anyone who minimizes this doesn't understand what race relations mean to America's identity. You just made my day! If true, the truth is so much more provocative than fiction.
Minimizes what? The Babe Ruth thing was an observation obviously made way back when he was the home run king by envious ball players who were trying to discredit him somehow (“ haters today “) so someone said something about his nose and that’s how the whole fake news story started! It’s a nothing tid bit of sports history that is no secret and never was
Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig SPOKE German! Did Babe learn it at his Baltimore reform school? A foreign language … Or did he learn it from his German parents?
@@cedricbeard4609 two things can be true at one time. His mother was German, and spoke it, so he learned it...AND his daddy could have been black. Why the hostility? lol
I was born in Baltimore, City 1955. As a kid the story goes in 1905, Babe Ruth, 10 years old, called the "Bambino" played stickball on 216 Emory street in Baltimore City, with some of those same black fans in the stadium photos. Sicilian, Italian.
If he's Italian, that would explain some of it. Because if you're familiar with the generalizations of people in Italy, they say southern Italians have ancestry mixed with African and northern Italians were primarily European, lighter skinned. I don't know if this holds true in current times or not. But, if he has southern Italian blood, that could be where he got some of his features from.
Sicilians are called all sorts of derogatory names by Italians in the north because of their darker complexions and mixed heritage going back centuries being a major trade hub.
I had had DNA done, my Grandfather is German/British/ Scandinavian. No African. However, he was tan skinned, had a large nose and ears. My grandmother said that there were some Germans called black Dutch and that is what he was. And I mean the original meaning of Black Dutch. Tawny colored Europeans. He also had very light grey eyes.
Because he had a big nose? He didn’t have kinky hair or small ears and was as white as snow. Have you ever seen Sicilians and people from Southern Spain or even parts of Germany? Racial identity is fucking stupid. It’s tribalism and what holds us back as a species.
True, but Homer was always pictured semi profile. Why is that? Homer had eye folds. Homer was known to have Black African ancestry in the old racist days.
Babe’s mom was German and Irish but, especially as you get go further south, there was not “inter-marriage “ but there were affairs and other relationships
When I was in Harbor Fields high school in Long Island New York around 1974 when Hank Arron Broke Baby Ruth’s Home Run record I had a racist teacher name Mr Hall he was so upset about Baby Ruth’s record being broken by a black man that he had the valedictorian of the high school come to our class and statistically try to break down why Babe Ruth was better than Hank Aaron! Well Mr Hall where ever you are I hope you watch and read this! Cause I’m loving it! I cut his class for the rest of the semester, and he never even reported it! This is so sweet! Thank You!
My mother’s patriarchal side of my family, they were from Tsenacommah (Virginia), the tidewater area, and eastern Tanasi (Tennessee), or Appalachia. They were labeled mulatto and even earlier free white persons, they were white passing, but not European, even down to my grandfather, and my mother. We are very light skinned people even today. I still get asked frequently, what am I, mixed or biracial. I usually answer, I’m quadroon.
I can remember my father (a Black man) always saying Babe Ruth was black (in the 60's)... and I didn't believe it, at the time. He also said the same about Carol Channing, Hoover and Clark Gable... and he was right about them.
@@candyDander There's actually a documentary on him... His Mother... His father had her put in an Asylum and he was raised by his paternal grandmother... He'd been told she was deceased. He sent for her after becoming famous in the U.S. His story is so interesting...
You are so right because I recall my Grandmother saying all the people you name and she also said Jackie Kennedy, Elvis Presley, and Johnny Cash 1st. wife Vivian all had black ancestry., I remember that so vivid as a young girl my Granny telling me this…, and I personally grew up and went to schools with black people passing as whites…
Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth were friends later in life, even collaborating for charity events together. In both their autobiographies, they spoke highly of one another.
That’s the problem I have with Ken Burns’ Baseball doc. He used Stump’s discredited biography without doing more research. Because of this Cobb has been besmirched for over 30 years.
@@cqtaylor dude I was raise in the south racist people do not associate themselves with black people in no type of way. They will not take pictures with a black or black woman they would look down upon black people.
I am a biracial woman who married a biracial guy and had children who are multi generationally mixed. Babe Ruth looks the same way. My youngest son does… completely ambiguous. Where if you know you know, but if you don’t know, you never will until you find out. Lol
I have a buddy who looks exactly like Babe Ruth and his parents look very German and Polish. I know a number of polish and German folks with wider noses and full lips.
The real problem here is your statement that he was Swarthy. Swarthy means very dark skin persons. He was not Swarthy; Swarthy is not possible to pass for white as Swarthy means very dark skin. This is the order of complexion mainly for black people. 1. Swarthy, 2. Ruddy. 3. Tawny(myself), 4. Olive (depends on the color of the olive), 5. bronzed. 6. Beige. In his case, he could pass as Beige. It is misleading the public to use the term Swarthy. According to many primary documents, and artifacts and cemeteries, the people who went from Ireland to the Caribbean ( Islands such as Monserrat, Jamaica, & Barbados’s) and blended in with other blacks from Africa and the Americas were Swarthy and Ruddy mainly. To say, Swarthy is misleading and not appropriate! The other complexions that would not be assumed to have recent black family background by at least three to four generations are the following: fair, pale, ivory, Alabaster, & Porcelain. Swarthy means very dark skin. (No matter how small it can be as power as an atom!
This is a GREAT conversation (I am big a Babe Ruth, and NY Yankees, fan), VERY interesting, I had never pondered upon the thought of his ancestry prior to your videos (And I had NO IDEA (genuinely) that he had hung out in Harlem, NY, The Cotton Club, and dated black women regularly ("Extremely" eye-opening). Thank you for sharing.
These kind of difficult/surprising revelations are the reason I love this channel. I admire how you bravely state the "quiet parts" out loud. 💖 I don't follow sports, but am aware of the name Babe Ruth. Looking at his pictures, I see a fair-skinned Black man. I too was fascinated that those who were children in that era knew that he was Black and were shocked to hear that he was not(?) 😲🤔 Both he and Hoover were household names and I never thought about their race. I see Black men when I look at them and it is sad that they were not able to show their true selves during the eras in which they lived.
George Herman Ruth is from German descent. He was a man who was not prejudice. He played with black ball players. I think that folks tried to bring him down because he was not prejudice. I'm a second cousin to Babe. His niece took a DNA test and there was no African ancestry in her DNA.
People seem to want to go with mere speculation and rumours... and how they think someone looks. Your comment is hidden away in the long list I'm scrolling through. Which is a pity.
A niece is not close enough.. it could’ve been his niece on his mother’s side which is known german. It would need to be a relative on his father’s side.
All my white friends either claimed or hoped to be part Indian or black. Nada on dna tests. Things have changed and people instead of just accepting who they are, hope for a bit of non European blood. Just a real life observation
This is a very interesting topic, and thanks for providing the content. In the last few years, I've been digging deep into some of the hidden or forgotten Black history. I have to be honest: I didn't realize how much history was, and still isn't, told. Sure, the past is gone but, I refuse to neglect my due diligence in learning the history of my ancestors who suffered so much.
Never heard this before, but when you said it, I realized how it might be true. Our family has a myriad of shades. I am African American, but I know other people have made the choice. I am so proud of you. This is a wonderful channel for really getting to the heart of truth and reconciliation.
I heard that there was a Negro League player who had over 800 HRs in his career. I can't remember who, but if Babe Ruth was identified as black and couldn't play in the Majors, he would definitely tear up the Negro League. They kept the brothers out because we were just too good. They couldn't compete. Even Willie Mays, who was a former Negro League player, managed to become one of the all-time greats in the MLB. He's right up there with Ruth, Bonds and Aaron as one of the best who ever played.
I don't think that the kid at 3:38 is Babe Ruth. He's got his catcher's mitt on his left hand but Ruth threw left-handed (and quite well). I doubt if the Babe ever caught.
This is really interesting. I'm a history guy and a big sports guy. I have studied race quite a bit, so I'm really surprised I never knew this. I just remember hearing how upset people were when Hank Aaron was "breaking a white man's record." He certainly looks like he could be black, so I could totally see this being the case. Crazy!
My father-in-law (80+ now) and others on that side of the family are avid history buffs and sports fans. They’ve known this about Babe Ruth for many years. To them it’s common knowledge.
Cause it’s bs I’m from Baltimore he is from Pig Town and they all have those features they are tawny almost looking Gypsy but theses are white people mostly of German decent all white people aren’t blonde hair, blue eyed and pale. The man was white!
I actually viewed yesterday, but forgot to leave comments. This blew my mind. As I was viewing the pictures on your video, I did notice that his skin tone tan. Now it could be that he got a great deal of sun growing up and it is what it is, but it did strike me as odd. I have to admit that the pictures I've seen of him as a child, did appear to show darker skin as well, but I put it down to grainy photos of the times. I've never heard about his friendships or relationship with Black people; I'm so apologetic because I assumed that he of the times and didn't care for Black people or wanted them to play in the major leagues. Now, I'm going to research him because I'm fascinated about why a White man who cross the color line to be friends with Blacks during those times, even with the speculation about him---he didn't stop. Also if he did have African heritage, what another interesting story for the history books.I wish Oi had known of this because I've players from the Negro leagues and I would have asked them what they thought. This video has blown my mind! Thank you for doing it.
I've heard the same about Tom Jones. (Although in Britain there are what they call the black Irish. Some think that survivors of the Spanish Armada might explain for dark, curly haired people in Britain.)
Tom Jones is mostly Welsh, one English grandparent. I remember Tom Jones before his nose job. The nose was very large, and aquiline, sort of Shylock type. He looked Mediterranean European. He probably curled his hair as well.
Nothing to talk about,they didn't want to break the Caucasian hearts that thought they had one!!!! Nothing New under the sun. Free facts...your welcome.
Italian, really? You must have a lot of strange Italians in the USA. I would say he was an ugly man, not a black man. Not all White people look like the Gods on Olympus, in fact none do.
It’s definitely possible. I’m a “black” man and I have relatives, a great-great uncle who passed as a “white” man and went on to become a judge and married a “white” woman in order, I’m sure, to further distant himself and any children from his “black” heritage. Even to this day, his grandchildren acknowledge that we’re related privately, but not in public.
Lol, I have 1st cousins like that. We're sociable at family functions but not outside of that. I would have liked to see their face when they got their Ancestry results and discovered we share all of the same African DNA groups. 😂
@@freshprince130 …..Hey, I’m not mad at them. We have a LARGE extended family and they’re missing out on some rich history and community. I feel sorry for them, more than anything because they’re the ones who are missing out on learning where they came from and who their ancestors and where they came from. Family history is priceless.
My uncle, that raised me, grew up in the same time period as Babe Ruth and looked almost identical to him. I often thought that my uncle probably had a black ancestor, but I haven’t done the research to verify if it may be true or not. On the other hand though, I went to the same church as Ty Cobb nephew (who recently passed away). That family lived and grew up in Georgie, right next to S.C., where I live. During that era, things were a lot different, especially here in the South. The schools were segregated and blacks lived on one side of the railroad tracks and whites on the other side, with little but some interaction.
Your uncle may have had a Black ancestor. Your mother or fathers brother, means your mother or father was related to the same Black ancestor. Interesting how you clearly disassociates with your own possible Blackness.
@@stevenpringle9492 : By what I wrote, I don’t get where you get the idea of dissociation. However, I’m not genetically related to my uncle. I am genetically related to his wife though… Does that turn a light bulb on in your little bitty head… By the way, I admire my uncle very much.
He does have many typical German features though. He also doesn't have the curly hair that almost all people with a black parent have. Also, Polish people notoriously have big noses and lips, as well as often having exceptionally tan skin, and there was a massive Polish population in Germany in the mid to late 1800s. Never in a million years would I look at Babe Ruth and think "That's a black man".
Our genetics when it comes to hair and stuff like that, is often determined by our mother, so if his father was black he would have still got his mother's hair. In most cases
@@ForestTre Hair patterns being primarily received by our mothers is a myth that has been repeatedly proven false. Black hair genes overpower white hair genes regardless of which parent was black almost every time.
People who are biracial come out looking all sorts of ways. They have straight hair, curly hair, light skin, more brown skin, fuller lips, thin lips. He could have been mixed from his European heritage before his parents ever hit these shores. African descended people traveled the world. We weren’t all slaves. My great grandfather was Cape Verdian and traveled the world as a whaling Captain. He was away from home a lot. This is how people mixed even when it was taboo.
@@MariamaLearningChannel you know what I find kind of ironic is that we are both from a country that claims it is a priest Nation on Earth and this is something that's always been touted but yet we have had more racial oppression than any other country. Thank you for doing this channel because it helps me to understand my grandparents a little bit better and what they went through
Wow. I wasn't aware of any 0:52 of the "suspicion " or speculation about Ruth's ethnicity. I'm an American citizen who is Black, and I'm 60 years old, but this is the first time that this has been brought to my attention. A
@bemoguy I'm also 60, when I was a kid a neighbor was was born in 1921 told me about that talked about when he was growing up. He told me his father who sold insurance would see him in Harlem all the time.
@@bhossast I'm 62 and been heard the speculation about Babe black, but this is the first time I am hearing of him being fond of black women. We don't know but maybe Babe has some black offspring from one of those encounters.
Called intraracial which is not talked of compared to interracial. Peep what Ben Franklin said. Many ppl deemed white today are white consideration or on paper.
A lot of Black southerners from Alabama moved to Baltimore back in those days!!!! They named a chocolate candy bar after him!!!!!! That says it all for me!! They could have named the candy bar PayDay after him but they didn't! They named a chocolate bar after him😂😂This was their inside joke!! This is really hurting white people!! They probably hate him now😂😂
The only one who worries about this is black people sorry. I could care less if babe Ruth was black,white or whatever. So give it a rest no one cares about the mix of people except black people I know truth hurts.
In the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries, people of color were exiled from Europe. The Moors, sephardic jews, Jacobites, etc... it's possible that Ruth, being of German descent, has people of color in his ancestry. Benjamin Franklin, in his essay, "Concerning the Increase of Mankind, Peopling of Countries, etc.", described the Germans as tawny (dark), and was concerned about the quantity of Germans in Pennsylvania. I have seen run-a-way ads from the 18th that describe some runaway indentured servants as "black" and "speaks with the getman tongue". So, was he black by the one drop rule? Possibly. Just because his parents look white, doesnt mean anything. Traits skip generations, and not necessarily his father's biological child.
That’s complete bullshit. I’m German. German people do not have any black blood in them. Moors just had a presence in the Roman Empire for a very short period of time, there is no evidence that widespread intermixing was going on between Moors and Europeans, if any intermixing at all occurred.
This is surprising to me that there was controversy over Babe Ruth’s race. Especially when you revealed that he had German immigrant heritage. I’m looking at a picture of my husband and the pictures of Babe in your story and I recognize the similarities in their facial features. Both have wide full lips and short wide noses. When I look at both those faces I see German faces. I also am of German heritage and have wide full lips but a longer skinny nose. In high school I was even bullied for having wide full lips. They called them n word lips. It made me upset because I knew that using that racial slur was meant to demean my looks. When beauty standards changed from thin lips to full lips this worked in my favour. I’ve even heard a friend of my own children say in a positive way they have lips like black people. I was so glad that this friend described it as a beautiful feature and not use it to try to make them feel shameful about the way they looked. I think Babe Ruth was German but had a more open mind than many people of his time about race relations. He obviously didn’t care that people knew he visited the cotton club. So far as his facial features it is my personal experience that they are common features in people of German heritage. At least to me he looks like many of my family.
@@josephperkins4857 dude, we are all working it off. Every day and every life. We are all trying to get to the end of this hurting the least amount of people. The United States has as a force of many people done harm, a collective harm and we are all gonna have to work that off. Whether reincarnation is real or we die and turn to energy and dust, when we are here we better stop trying to do the most.
I have taken a DNA test and I have 0% recent African ancestry but, I have an uncle who has similar features to Babe Ruth. My uncle has a bit of German ancestry. I grew up in an area that was founded by German settlers. To this day most of the people have German ancestry and a lot of the men look similar to Babe. Yes, there were people back then passing for white but that may not be the case with Babe. If he was white, I respect him even more for having a diverse group of friends and not caring what the public thinks about that
Germany was civilized by black skinned people .the first people of Europe were black. There’s plenty obvious art of the Moors that ruled the continent then I suggest you research that
Babe Ruth features not only have a negroid nose but his “darker” complexion indicates that he is not pure German descent who have pure white colored skin. If he doesn’t have Black ancestry then I would bet there is Native American/Indian ancestry.
Just because you have 0% African ancestry doesn't mean your uncle doesn't. You don't inherit all the genes your own parents have, so definitely don't inherit all those of their siblings. In addition your own siblings will inherit different combinations of DNA from your parents. There are vloggers who work/worked doing DNA analysis who can explain all this.
I didn't know about Babe Ruth, but I see African Ancestry in the photos. I did know about Dinah Shore. My mother had older friends that knew people in her family.
The stories about Ty Cobb being Racist are known. The thing is that there have been MANY mixed Race people in Michigan and in the Detroit area for at least 200 years or more. It is not surprising that Ruth had some Black roots. But going by the hair, there had to be some Native American ancestry as well. In Ruth's case, he was a pioneer. He was one of a few who beat the system of segregation. There were several others. George Herriman, Creator of KRAZY KAT was the first Black American Cartoonist over 100 years ago.
Having any bit of African DNA in you was a big deal back in the day because the ruling class people of European descent wanted to keep their bloodline pure.
If most people thought that, he would not have been playing baseball unless the negro leagues were around. What's the necessity in fooling yourself in that way. Many of the players would have probably beat him with a bat because they hated Black people so much.
This is an interesting point and I hadn’t heard it before, but regarding The Cotton Club in Harlem, you’re off. The club featured all black musicians and dancers, but the customers were all white. No blacks allowed. And white men fooling around with black women on the side was not at all unusual in US history as we all know well. The relationships might have been well known, but they weren’t socially “acceptable”. Obviously we’ve come far - thank heaven - from the racial attitudes that shaped that time. But a dna report on The Babe would be an interesting addition to the conversation about that time.
If he had had African heritage that he was hiding, he probably wouldn't have had relationships with African-American women, because that would have (and did) open him up to accusations of being part black, which seems like something he would want to avoid; it reminds me of your great-grandmother Lola, who cut off almost all ties with her black relatives in order to pass as white in society, which makes perfect sense. However, I think that Babe Ruth might have had some southern European, or Native American blood in him, to account for those aspects of his appearance that made people question his whiteness. I remember seeing photos of my Sicilian and southern Italian grandparents when they were children and young adults at the same time as Babe Ruth's career, and in group photos of them with their friends (who were mostly Sicilian, southern Italian, Mexican, Portuguese and Greek), I notice the same wide nose and olive-toned/tan skin. Of course, these kids were from farming/fruit-growing families in California during the '20s, '30s, and '40s, so they were used to spending a lot of time outside while working and playing, so they were tanned, but they look darker than the white kids from farming families who were in their school photos and yearbooks.
Your post is ridiculous! He's mixed with everything but Black to you. Another who does not want to entertain the thought of him being mixed with Black. Elvis Presley and Mae West were also rumored to be mixed with Black. It didn't stop them from having relations with Blacks. Back then things were segregated. So only the Black community would have known about it. They did not date Blacks openly. Which is why you could not find any pics. It was behind the doors. Hush dating.
So tired of Italians claiming they were white. The Moors was in Italy first and when these Mediterranean people came and claimed to want to be their friends and then they did just like the English did the Native American. Ok stop your mixed people. Your Black.
It’s not that easy to say someone was Native American because the indigenous of the Americas are very close net people, it never would’ve remained a secret
I skimmed your videos on you page to get a quick idea of what your content is about. I find it funny after I commented on a SNL skit that “white ppl will say they have Italian in their blood to excuse any black looking features” then suddenly I get recommend your channel lol.
Does it really matter what nationally he was? He was and is a legend!
Of course it matters if people with darker skin we're deliberately locked out of major league baseball.
If he had African heritage he would not have been allowed to play for the Yankees. Thats crazy
Yes it does.
It would definitely had mattered then!
This entire channel is about DNA and ethnicity. So yes it matters in the context of this channel.
I’m 63. Years ago, they tried to “accuse” singer Dinah Shore of being black in order to hurt her career. Shore came forward and made a statement. She said she was not black but would be proud if she was indeed black or had black heritage. After that, no one said a word. She silenced her haters by showing they could not shame her.
I like this a lot
Dinah Shore was a believing Jew, but liked to attend services in Black Churches, since she felt people there were deeply and emotionally worshiping G-d.
Dinah Shore had a black child. Confused, her husband thought she cheated and divorced her. Dinah discovered her mom was part black. I heard she sued her mother for keeping that secret. (That sounds a bit dramatic, doesn't it?!)
Still, that did not quite explain her child being black to her husband. So he did a DNA test and discovered. HE WAS THE FATHER! Then, they discovered her husband had Black genes also!! (Tragically, the child was sent to be cared for at some institution. They said he was mentally challenged. I prayed for that kid when I heard about it. ) This was back in the days BEFORE all the fake news, so although covered up, when it came out, we think the story is true.
People need to come to terms with the fact that we are all descendants of Noah, and all related!
Was Babe Ruth multi-ethnic ? Everyone is. Some phenotypes show different dominant genes. Does it matter? No. He did what he had to do to work, live, and play ball. Minorities want recognition whenever possible because so much has been stolen. I get it. It does not have to be this way if people would stop the "division for the attainment of wealth, power & control. We would just be people celebrating the accomplishment of humanity.
Pray.
Much love and respect for sister Dinah Shore. It also tells me she didn't go along with fucktard racist bull crap. Maximum respect to all people who stand up for what is truly right.
This reminds me a lot of how Lady Gaga handles transphobic comments today. I think Anderson Cooper asked her once if she has a penis - she basically said something that boiled down to "I'm not dignifying that with a response. My fans don't care, neither do I, and I don't think it would be so bad."
It's so great when people with platforms and privilege do what they can to destigmatize others.
I'm 67 years old and I remember some people being upset that Hank Aaron encroaching on Babe Ruth's home run record. If it is true that Babe Ruth had a mixed race background, that would be the epitome of irony. 😊
This was passed aroun̈d in the sixty. This was a time when black people in large numbers were waking up...
I was cheering Hank Aaron on every time he got a H R .
😅😅😅
@lamontpearce170 Ditto 🙋🏾♀️
Yes,sadly it would.
Now It makes sense why Babe Ruth was the ONLY White Player that would visit the Black's only section at Ball Parks and sign autographs.
😮 ❤️🔥
Or that he grew up in an orphanage and held no prejudice….
An alternative would be that he just wasn't an asshole. I mean, Marylin Monroe, the Beatles and multiple other historical figures did believe that segregation was bullsh*t. Either way, it's an interesting story
He was one sneaky cat ..😉
@@prettiemageyou may be mixing up Marilyn Monroe with Rita Hayworth
When I was in the 3rd grade, our class had to do a book report on a famous black person for Negro history week. (I'm 64 now and back then we were given a week to celebrate Black History and it was called Negro History Week). In our school library, I had a hard time deciding which book to choose so I wasted almost the entire hour. After the teacher announced it was time to leave, I hastily selected a book with an illustration of a baseball player on the cover and checked it out. Once we were back in the classroom, my teacher looked over every students' book and when she saw mine, she exclaimed "Baby Ruth is a white man!". I was embarrassed because the class laughed and all I could say was, " He looks like a black man to me. " His features came across as a black person to my 8 year old eyes. The name of the book is the 'Babe Ruth Story'.I had relatives in my family that had quite similar features and they were black so I thought he was black also.
So many people have shared this kind of story with me!
That’s a amazing story. To me that story is almost proof that Babe Ruth had Black ancestry! Thank you very much for sharing.
Ty Cobb was famously quoted as saying I'm not rooming with that n word in reference to babe Ruth if you look at babe Ruth you know come on now let's stop playing😂😂
Yes, you can definitely see it , one drop rule..
His mother was most likely off spring from the white master, and the saga continued with her birthing him by a white man also, Babe was able to live a life by " passing" white folks yall have been had!!😂
I'm from Baltimore born there Babe Ruth's home was about a 10 min walk from my Granny's house, she said that man was black and they all knew it..his house was on Saratoga Street, around the corner from Edgar Allen Poe's house. All the old folks said Ruth was a black man, and they loved him....I was born in the 60's so lots of them old folks were kids when Ruth played..they knew the secrets..the streets always know whats going on!
@@winstonp.prescott3845 a black man with blue eyes?
Test his DNA and dispel all the rumors. He may have been the 1st Black player in the Major Leagues not to take anything from one of my heroes, Jackie Robinson, but this may be true.
@@williamanderson1091 Jackie wasn't the first black player. That would be Moses Fleetwood walker.
You can say more because you're from that city, but my understanding is that Baltimore, especially in the time period when Babe Ruth would have grown up there was very segregated. So, where his parents lived would reveal a lot. There were written covenants to keep Blacks and Jews out of certain residential areas of Baltimore. @winstonp.prescott3845
Exactly. I always heard that when I was younger. I'm from Bmore as well.
I'm 55. In the 90s my father told me Babe Ruth was black. I didn't believe him, as was my pattern with my father. He passed away in 2007 and so much of what he used to tell me is resurfacing in my life. He would have watched this video and felt somewhat vindicated. In the 90s, he pretty much was the only one saying Babe Ruth was black in our circle. My father must have heard talk about Babe Ruth in Harlem, where we are from. I wish I would have valued his perspective. My father was such a treasure. Awesome video. Thanks for sharing it.
Thank you for your comment. If I called my Dad, "a treasure," I would sound pretentious to myself. When he passed, I told my pastor, "We didn't always see eye to eye." We didn't.
Only years later did I realize that we didn't always see eye to eye because he taught me to think for myself: that's priceless. I think of him every day....
So, in your comment, you mentioned a pattern of not believing what your Dad said. I don't think that was really the case - that you didn't believe him. You just inherited a healthy skepticism from him - he taught you to think for yourself.
Concerning the Babe, my Dad never gave an opinion about the icon's heritage. Still, I've looked at the photos over the decades and read about the abuse he endured - being called a gorilla and worse. I tried to accept that a poor Irishman could come into the World with the Babe's features.
I didn't know he frequented Harlem or had a reputation for engaging with women of color. Even now, this is hearsay to me based on just this report. Still....
If he was bi-racial, yet able to "pass" because of his complexion, his prodigious talent, his giftedness made it evident that he should have been competing at the highest level and should have been compensated as he was for his performance. I'm glad he was allowed to play - whatever his ancestry - and I'm glad society has matured to the extent that it has. Again, thank you for your response and giving me a place to make mine....
He’s German
My Great Grandfather's name was Ruth and his father was a white man named Robert Ruth and his mother an enslaved African woman. They lived in South Carolina and Georgia and my mother said some of the children (she had 4) were light enough to pass. Babe Ruth did not have any children nor did they speak of a father. My mother said that they often went to DC and Maryland to Pass and she believed he was a relative!
He grew up in an orphanage. In the north. He didn’t care. Look at his hair, it’s straight and dark it’s not curling like top ramen. He was ahead of his time. Blacks always come up with crazy things like we wuz kangz and we ruled Egypt. But yet Egyptians are middle eastern looking, and if you look at African blacks they live in mud huts still and let cows kiss on their head.
@@Dan-d9vNot an appropriate comment. Do you know his dad? Doubt it. I reported it as an inappropriate comment.
J. Edgar Hoover was another. There were many people in history who were mixed race.
And many of them are anti-black like J. Edgar Hoover because they desperately want to hide it.
He he passed for "WHITE". That is why he hated AFRICAN AMERICANS SO! DID THAT SO NO ONE WOULD NOTICE HIM. HOOVER came from a lot of incest. Was a pedophile and his Lover that was pedophile also. The would pick up boys of the STREETS OF NOLA against their will and their way with them.
J Edgar Hoover was definitely NOT mixed race. His family came forward and spoke on how he went out of his way to hide his racial identity. What’s disgusting is the agenda he perpetuated against Black People during his time. His actions have affects that reverberate throughout America to this day.
He was so tragic. His hate for himself caused him to take it out on others.
The ones with white blood
What I love about the channel is that it feels like a conversation, like we are on this discovery together, not like a lecture.
It's great because the idea never come across my mind.
That's a good point. It does feel like a conversation although I don't mind lectures either as long as they are accurate
My Japanese spouse, a baseball fan who was not aware of the timeline of integration in Major League Baseball, just told me that she always assumed that Babe Ruth was Black. I honestly have never heard any of this and it is fascinating. Thank you!
I’ve known he is Black since I was a kid.
You should ask her about emperor Meij... the guy who helped turn Japan into an imperialist state. He looked suspiciously black too... I'm almost wondering if the powers that be aren't hybridizing certain people, and then using them to infiltrate different cultures. Divide and conquer.
Why is every other race allowed to have a sense of definition, yet black is this loose term to one drop everyone? This is why the black race isnt respected throughout the world. Its blank plus black s black, but its really the one drop rule, which is the child assuming the inferior parents racial stock.
@DIAMONDGIRL57 he might have been mixed. A lot of mixed people passed as white. My Great Grandmother did and she was half Native American. Back then you are checking white on the census if you can get away with it.
@@mvp6692 Anyone with an actual level of self-respect and dignity would never live in societies where they're treated as second class. My family ((on my father's side)) are Native American as well, and they stuck with their own communities on reservations. They would of never lowered themselves to live in those societies.
When I was growing up in the 70's, my mom talked about 'Babe Ruth', and how she always thought he was black or African American, because of his features and athletic skills. Fast forward, I saw a documentary about his life a few years ago, and in the documentary, it was said, that allegedly his father was black, also The Babe, would frequent black brothels, when traveling from city to city, he loved 'Soul Food' and that he would give money to a lot of black orphanages. He had no problems with socializing with the black community. I believe The Babe, was so called African American. But whether he was or wasn't he was one of the greatest baseball players of all time and had a genuine love for his fans of all races.
Lol so dumb..
Very dumb
sounds like your mother might have been a bit racist and Babe Ruth wasn't.
Compelling. But race is mostly a factor of skin color, and in the minds of those who believe in race, it is “black and white,”
Babe Ruth wasn't athletic. He could swing a bat. Have you seen his belly?
He looks a lot like my grandfather, who could pass for white. He chose not to despite being born in 1905. Living through the same period as Babe Ruth.
i had a grandmother who could pass for white and my gf was dark they were married and they could not walk on the same side of the street..together..during Jim Crow era..
Babe Ruth was of German ancestry. Let it go.
My maternal grandparents passed for white! My maternal grandmother was Cape Verdean,Portuguese & Spanish & my maternal grandfather was Miqmak Indian,Nova Scotian,Canadian,African American & European descent & my father who was very very dark nearly black skin was Afro-Latino American of Puerto Rican descent! And believe it or not,my paternal 3rd cousin was Roberto Clemente!
@@javielalvarez5459 Babe Ruth was German. People who think he has black ancestry are just seeing what they want to see. Ty Cobb was a paranoid racist who just hated Ruth because he was a better player than he was, so he made up that rumor.
@@javielalvarez5459 Babe Ruth was German. He had no African ancestry. People who say otherwise are only seeing what they want to see, like Ty Cobb, who was a paranoid racist.
Thanks, this was ìnsightfull. My great grandmother was born in Kansas in 1878. We know she was biracial and adopted by a white family. Her adoptive parents passed her off as white. In 1900 her adoptive parents and 8 siblings immigrated to Canada because the USA was dangerous for her. She married a white man and had 5 white kids. My grandfather was the only one of his siblings to have a brown child who was born in 1945 in British Columbia. I did not understand why my great grandmother's race was a family secret. I am proud to be her decendent.
@@sblsbl7600 Please look up the word decedent. It means a deceased, dead person. So I'm hoping you really meant to say descendent?
I am from the Muscogee Creek Nation, I have black relatives on both sides of my family. My great great great grandfather on my father’s side was born in Indian territory before it was Oklahoma..
All this time, I thought Babe Ruth was Italian/Sicilian and that's why on TV back in the day, he was called the Bambino 🤯
That was exactly my thought.
@@OKay-ox3kh oh that's why he likes franks and beers so much.😋
He was of German decent
Same
How would being Sicilian change the idea of being Blk?
White ,off white light brown black ,he's Babe Ruth the all American ball player hopefully he has a dash of everything it would be poetic justice
Yeah! The power is in the mix.
Beautiful😇
My husband has similar looks with the broad nose and full lips. He is German and Norwegian. His dads parents came over from Germany, and both his mother's parents came from Norway.
He enjoyed going to the cotton club black folks a white man going to a all black club.... he.s had some black in him
Your husband’s grandma had jungle fever. So do you, apparently. It’s ok. We are all one people.
And,from what I've heard about him,he grew up in an Orphanage,so I'm sure he was a very charitable person because that's just what he knew
😂😂😂@@Peter-f1z
There is a picture of his father on Wikipedia and Babe Ruth looks just like his father. Both paternal grandparents are from Germany, not black.
It's hard to fully imagine this world that's not too long ago. It seems like not only being black was a problem but making sure you don't look black or associate with blacks was important too.
Commie nonsense.
@@SmokeNGunsBBQ
Yep...you'd be surprised, how many whites had black grannies.
It was easier for men to pass, if they had straight hair..
It's mostly the hair
I know a man, who looked like his mom
He looked very Chuck Norris like
Later, his black wife shown me a picture of his dad's mother
She looked like a Lena Horne type
Also, no one questioned Eisenhower
It could be, because he was a general..
And helped desegregate the military
That is still how it is in the latino community.Anything to be write, not look black and disconnect with black heritage
That's the way it was! I was born into the best of times as a Black man, 1959.
Problem for whom..
It the 1930s Babe went on a world tour playing exhibition games. When he visited Hilo, Territory of Hawaii (not a state yet!) he played an exhibition game with my grandfather who was captain of one of the city teams. I still have the pics from the local paper with both of them posing for the camera.
He was doing that in the 20’s even. My father went to one of those exhibition games in Montgomery AL in 1926.
Let's see a pic
I was there in Hawaii at that time I remembered seeing him also smh people sure do come up with stories I'm not saying you are lying but I love to see that pic as well
@@stevenlee2701 My grandfather was head of sales at Hilo Iron Works.
Can you please share the pic?
Danielle , I have never followed sports very closely , but think about this irony ---- when Hank Aaron was getting close to overtaking Babe Ruth in homeruns , Hank got alot of hate-mail and also death-threats because he was going to break a "White mans " record !!
I do believe he set the record for the most letters ever delivered to a private individual by the US post office. It was in the vicinity of 900,000 letters (If my memory serves me correctly). About one-third of those letters were of the unpleasant kind.
@@carapo66WTF?!?!? Really? That's just crazy.
@@carapo66 My music teacher (who coached Little League in Oakland, Ca) knew Mr. Aaron personally. Mr. Aaron allowed him to read some of the letters he kept as proof to how sick white america was. He said, Mr. Aaron held no hate in his heart against them.
I remember that
@@bihsaidwhatnow2392 Aaron was a true Israelite.
I, honestly, find it much harder to believe that someone who is both famous AND consciously trying to pass as white would so openly socialize with black people/culture. Its seems perfectly logical to me either he was white and just happened to have "black" features. Or that HE was lied to about his own heritage. As has been known to have happened.
I've heard about this and many people have said Babe Ruth looks kinda like a lighter skinned Muhammed Ali in certain pictures
I that same thing when I saw the picture at 6:24
Not unlikely Ali himself was mixed
I wish we would find a descendant of his on Finding Your Roots...Maybe she could start a new side channel like that 😅
@0:09 he looks like him
I was thinking the same thing!
In fact my grandfather taught me he was , but he wasn’t gonna make it so he had too . Mind you we’re from Louisiana, those old ppl knew who was passing
YEP!!! Sad people had to pass. Most came from non- consensual bodily relations. Not relationships. FACTS GOT TO COME OUT!!! FIND THE 1965 " EBONY MAGAZINE" " 6 MILLION WHITE NEGROES" ❗❗❗WE know it others need to learn it.
Yep. Black ppl have always known. Much of old Hollywood were white passing Black ppl or POC.
Not in New York they didn't.
Wow I never knew this…
But he does look black!
No he doesn’t are you dense his nasel bridge is pretty thin his nose is very common on Europeans not everyone is black and it’s idiotic to say so
@@etruscancivilization lmao if you think he looked black with a capital B your stupid with a capital S lmao you are the typical “we wuz kangz and shieeet” not everyone was black
His father really did.
@@etruscancivilization
Interesting story…
I never knew these things!
No, he doesn't! His hair give away his whiteness! He was just a white man with some color!
5:20 ? There were many black people who were integrating into society such as musicians and probably other areas. Of course his face looks odd if his dad was full blooded German and perhaps the stigma was more that he was MIXED. IOW, it would mean somewhere back down the line that the pure, white blood had been "tainted" by someone sleeping with a person of color. So, in that regard, I can see the problem. If he'd been HALF black, there would probably be no problem because by 1920, there were many half black people in the USA.
This is mind blowing. I have a friend who is a young man. His father is Black and his mother is white. But I had not known his father was black when I met him, when he was then 8 years old. He had curly blonde hair, but a round face and a wide nose similar to Babe Ruth. I thought he was a sweet white kid and nothing more. I am a black woman. Years later after he was in his 20s he revealed to me that he was African American and had a hard time in college when he tried to talk about racism and a white person told him he had no right to talk about African Americans. He said, "my dad is black." But he said everyone in his college class didn't believe him, and were mad that he kept insisting he was African American. Imagine that, even now "passing" is an issue. This young man is proud of who he is. He is half black, half white, just like my children. But everyone calls my kids black, and they call him white, based on appearance.
Bless his heart.
Maybe they should DNA test. That way no one can say anything about him not being mixed.
@bethparker 1500 , is that in the sincere way , or in the Southern way ? Just asking , before I give it a like or not .
A peurto rican I talked to years ago was like my sister is blonde (he looks "latino") and he also has another brother or sister and they look like a black person. So what would they have done.
America sucks. You guys have zero grasp of human populations, science and the concept of being " mixed " i hope you teach your children theyre biracial.
I am so glad that you posted this video. When I saw the notification I immediately clicked because about 20 years ago eyewitness news, before the commercial break said, "when we come back, was Babe Ruth really black? See the story when we come back!" And I waited until the very end and they never even mentioned his name again. My family and I were talking amongst each other and we figured that they probably caught a lot of flack from certain segments of the public. Thanks for covering this!
Was Babe Ruth African??
Your historical content has much value. Thank you for sharing your research findings.
You have a very interesting and unique channel, touching subjects that might be on the sensitive side for many these days. I've just subbed. Good content here. 👍
Wow, thank you
You are getting better and better every episode NYTN!
The way they treated him after baseball, may proved that they thought he was black. They treated him horribly, they wouldn’t even allow him to coach in baseball..
Wow. I never knew that.
He also was a consummate drunkard.
@@AngryAl66 If he was treated this way I can understand the drinking.
@@AngryAl66was being a drunkard back then really such a big deal? Would they have really held that against him?
I thought he was co Manager at the end of his career. Or maybe he wanted that sorry been along time any info would be appreciated
Danielle keep doing this important job. As you can see this country needs more conversation.
Nah, the establishment just wants us to stay divided. United we stand, divided we fall.
Agreed 100% because in 2024 if some people had their way they would and the trying to erase history instead of teach and learn from it.
These stories being generated are from socialists for the purpose of rewriting American history to fundamentally change America for the New World Order by disassociating America from its known past.
Conversation without facts is meaningless hearsay.
Open conversation like you give without bias is exactly how it needs to be delivered
Babe Ruth's father was German. Babe Ruth looks German. He has the hair of a Black Irishman. His mother is Irish. Black Irish is not Black - it means dark haired and dark features, ie., not a ginger . If Babe Ruth was black it would be apparent in his hair, which was straight a shiny, and his hands. Pigments in his hands would be the easiest to identify without needing to catch him coming out of the shower. No one can keep a secret like that
Not true. I'm black and have cousins who are very fair skinned with loose curls and grey/green eyes. They can pass for White.
So, Phil Lynott was not black? 🤦🏻♂️
My friend’s dad was German, and looked a lot like Ruth.
Have you ever heard of the word melungeons??? It means blacks that can pass for white and also there was and still is blacks in Germany
My friend MANY people have kept that secret. It's called being passing and it happened often in a world where segregation was so brutal it was a threat to your life and livelihood.
We were not considered "white"
Eastern Europeans, Northern Europeans, Italians, Turks, Greeks.
That is from Ben Franklin.
Exactly! Eastern European’s were treated as ‘other’
I wonder why they always erase groups like the Spanish or Mexican as I’ve got my entire life and they’re always being ignored and these sort of comments
Exactly! I have no problem imagining him as a grumpy German, or other Central/Eastern European.
Then again, with darker skin, sure he could pass for African too, there are so many "types", body and face shapes in Africa, they are all there.
@@azborderlands mexicans were treated as blacks too....
In Leigh Montville's book The Big Bam, the author stated that when Ruth was on his death bed in the hospital shortly before his death, he had a statue of St. Martin de Porres near him.
Martin de Porres is the patron saint of mixed race people and African Americans, as well as race relations.
Well said. Babe knew he was mixed and was quietly proud of the fact.
I read the book also, the statue was sent to him by a fan!
Glad to know that fact.
I love this! Henry Louis Gates says that Black Americans, a huge number of us, have at least 20% of our DNA shared with people categorized as “white”. So, where are the white people who are nearly a quarter Black? Our White ancestry didn’t occur in a vacuum. I think They’ve hidden this part for centuries due to the societal ramifications.
Due too Slavery yes And Anybody know it❤
They hid in America. In latin America everyone identifies as mixed.
I took a DNA test, and my ancestry came out 64% European, 30% Native American, and 4% Sub Saharan African. I look white but while I knew that I am part Native, the black DNA was a surprise. I find it quite interesting.
Ironic that in this age of DNA testing that some bigoted white people show some black ancestry.
ONE RACE, THE HUMAN RACE, BE GOOD TO EACH OTHER!
@claudettefolsom1509 not all slaves. Many can trace it back to the 1900s i can
They don’t know it unless they’ve had their DNA tested…..like me. We were told we were part Cherokee. Nope. That’s how they passed
Babe Ruth's grandchildren and their children are still with us. Situations can NOT crop up that are so important to force DNA tests. My grandfather, his mother and his grandfather have the exact same nose at Babe Ruth. They were all Welsh. Good video!
WERE they all Welsh tho? 🤣
You might just be a couple thanksgivings away from a new family secret unveiling 🤣
Babe had two adopted daughters. He didn't have any biological children. However, he had two brothers and five sisters.
One of Ruth’s daughters was biologically his. She was born out of wedlock from one of his extramarital affairs, but he adopted her anyway. She didn’t know until much later that her adoptive father was actually her biological father.
@@mitchelvalentino1569 Thanks, I appreciate the correction
@@mitchelvalentino1569u right! His youngest daughter was his birth daughter
I'm guessing DNA testing of the siblings offspring, or the one bio-daughter or her offspring is possible. It's just a thing we all mutts
Dorothy was Ruth's biological daughter.
Anyone who minimizes this doesn't understand what race relations mean to America's identity. You just made my day! If true, the truth is so much more provocative than fiction.
Minimizes what? The Babe Ruth thing was an observation obviously made way back when he was the home run king by envious ball players who were trying to discredit him somehow (“ haters today “) so someone said something about his nose and that’s how the whole fake news story started! It’s a nothing tid bit of sports history that is no secret and never was
@@toecutter1015 Don't feel sad cause your hero was Black.
Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig SPOKE German! Did Babe learn it at his Baltimore reform school? A foreign language … Or did he learn it from his German parents?
@@anthonybrowne3942 hahahaa love this!!!
@@cedricbeard4609 two things can be true at one time. His mother was German, and spoke it, so he learned it...AND his daddy could have been black. Why the hostility? lol
I was born in Baltimore, City 1955. As a kid the story goes in 1905, Babe Ruth, 10 years old, called the "Bambino" played stickball on 216 Emory street in Baltimore City, with some of those same black fans in the stadium photos. Sicilian, Italian.
If he's Italian, that would explain some of it. Because if you're familiar with the generalizations of people in Italy, they say southern Italians have ancestry mixed with African and northern Italians were primarily European, lighter skinned. I don't know if this holds true in current times or not. But, if he has southern Italian blood, that could be where he got some of his features from.
This is definitely intriguing, but it seems like some of the people here in the comments is taking this out of context.
He don't have Italian features
@@Nap317-rw7re true. Southern Italians have Mediterranean & Arab features. Babe does have kinda have black features.
Sicilians are called all sorts of derogatory names by Italians in the north because of their darker complexions and mixed heritage going back centuries being a major trade hub.
I had had DNA done, my Grandfather is German/British/ Scandinavian. No African. However, he was tan skinned, had a large nose and ears. My grandmother said that there were some Germans called black Dutch and that is what he was. And I mean the original meaning of Black Dutch. Tawny colored Europeans. He also had very light grey eyes.
He looked way blacker than Homer Plessy. Racial identity is fascinating.
Because he had a big nose? He didn’t have kinky hair or small ears and was as white as snow. Have you ever seen Sicilians and people from Southern Spain or even parts of Germany? Racial identity is fucking stupid. It’s tribalism and what holds us back as a species.
It's not about black it's hair skull etc lol
True, but Homer was always pictured semi profile. Why is that? Homer had eye folds. Homer was known to have Black African ancestry in the old racist days.
Babe’s mom was German and Irish but, especially as you get go further south, there was not “inter-marriage “ but there were affairs and other relationships
Swarthy german ancestry
There were also swarthy Irish.
@@actualityfilms swarthy germans and swarthy irish
My Great GRANDMOTHER was Irish..her husband was African American..Meridian MISSISSIPPI..1900
Perhaps Babe is a result of an affair?
When I was in Harbor Fields high school in Long Island New York around 1974 when Hank Arron Broke Baby Ruth’s Home Run record I had a racist teacher name Mr Hall he was so upset about Baby Ruth’s record being broken by a black man that he had the valedictorian of the high school come to our class and statistically try to break down why Babe Ruth was better than Hank Aaron! Well Mr Hall where ever you are I hope you watch and read this! Cause I’m loving it! I cut his class for the rest of the semester, and he never even reported it! This is so sweet! Thank You!
Your Mr. Hall is a disgrace to his family name!
Mr hall is a great man.
Birds of a feather!
Your mom is a great man 😂@@Peter-w4s1e
He's probably dead
Love your channel and content. It needs to be talked about.
My mother’s patriarchal side of my family, they were from Tsenacommah (Virginia), the tidewater area, and eastern Tanasi (Tennessee), or Appalachia. They were labeled mulatto and even earlier free white persons, they were white passing, but not European, even down to my grandfather, and my mother. We are very light skinned people even today. I still get asked frequently, what am I, mixed or biracial. I usually answer, I’m quadroon.
Is this group of people known as Mulungeons?"
So old fashioned. A quadroon. That was used in Australia to describe mixed Aborigines and Whites, also octoroon.
I have a similar background and I just tell people I’m black. I have white blood in my veins but I live by the one drop rule. I’m about 25% white.
I can remember my father (a Black man) always saying Babe Ruth was black (in the 60's)... and I didn't believe it, at the time. He also said the same about Carol Channing, Hoover and Clark Gable... and he was right about them.
I've never heard that about Clark Gable, very interesting.
@@candyDander There's actually a documentary on him... His Mother... His father had her put in an Asylum and he was raised by his paternal grandmother... He'd been told she was deceased. He sent for her after becoming famous in the U.S. His story is so interesting...
You are so right because I recall my Grandmother saying all the people you name and she also said Jackie Kennedy, Elvis Presley, and Johnny Cash 1st. wife Vivian all had black ancestry., I remember that so vivid as a young girl my Granny telling me this…, and I personally grew up and went to schools with black people passing as whites…
@@BrendaTucker-mf9cs Yes, too many to remember. I would tell him, you say that about everybody... and now it has been scientifically proven.
@@gretawoodson1451 Yes., they can’t hide there blackness no more…👊🏾
Ty Cobb talking smack against the guy who stole his thunder shouldn't be a surprise.
Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth were friends later in life, even collaborating for charity events together. In both their autobiographies, they spoke highly of one another.
@@mitchelvalentino1569 A lot of the image of Ty Cobb being a monster was concocted by sportswriter Al Stump.
@@jdee3421 absolutely. Stump was awful. Cobb is one of the most maligned and misunderstood athletes ever.
That’s the problem I have with Ken Burns’ Baseball doc. He used Stump’s discredited biography without doing more research. Because of this Cobb has been besmirched for over 30 years.
@@johnmills2678 100%
He wasn't black.
Shut your corny ass up
Just Afro/Euro
How do you know if he was or was not? That is the basis of passing…folks cannot tell.
lol neither was J Edgar Hoover??? Hard to believe isn’t it.
I've heard these rumors about Babe Ruth ever since I was a kid.
Of course you did. By other blacks that say the same bullshit. Stop believing lies on the Internet.
@@MINGXI-r9b why are you upset? Race mixing happened, get over yourself.
We know T Cobb was a racist man , since he was a racist and he let everyone know it, why would T. Cobb takes pictures with Babe Ruth
@@melvincarter9640 1) Because Ruth was a great ballplayer. And 2) Racists are contradictions.
@@cqtaylor dude I was raise in the south racist people do not associate themselves with black people in no type of way. They will not take pictures with a black or black woman they would look down upon black people.
I am a biracial woman who married a biracial guy and had children who are multi generationally mixed. Babe Ruth looks the same way. My youngest son does… completely ambiguous. Where if you know you know, but if you don’t know, you never will until you find out. Lol
You’re right when you know you know.
He was Italian.... nice try
@@DerekFrazier2014 lol you have to lie to have any historical significance.. furthering the theif stereotype lol
@@SmokeNGunsBBQ nice try what? That the man looks ambiguous n COULD HAVE EASILY just been a “quadroon” ?!
@@SmokeNGunsBBQhe was not at all Italian at all. His parents were of German descent. Look it up
I have a buddy who looks exactly like Babe Ruth and his parents look very German and Polish. I know a number of polish and German folks with wider noses and full lips.
Came here to say this!
Millions of Jewish people are from Russia, Germany and Poland and they are not necessarily of European ancestry.
Some of my relatives have a nose like him. But they are Mexican.
Well in 1751 Benjamin Franklin did not want Germans in America because they were The Sons of Africa ,it is documented look it up .
They do not have swarthy or tanned skin. I've lived in Germany.
The real problem here is your statement that he was Swarthy. Swarthy means very dark skin persons. He was not Swarthy; Swarthy is not possible to pass for white as Swarthy means very dark skin. This is the order of complexion mainly for black people. 1. Swarthy, 2. Ruddy. 3. Tawny(myself), 4. Olive (depends on the color of the olive), 5. bronzed. 6. Beige. In his case, he could pass as Beige. It is misleading the public to use the term Swarthy. According to many primary documents, and artifacts and cemeteries, the people who went from Ireland to the Caribbean ( Islands such as Monserrat, Jamaica, & Barbados’s) and blended in with other blacks from Africa and the Americas were Swarthy and Ruddy mainly. To say, Swarthy is misleading and not appropriate!
The other complexions that would not be assumed to have recent black family background by at least three to four generations are the following: fair, pale, ivory, Alabaster, & Porcelain. Swarthy means very dark skin. (No matter how small it can be as power as an atom!
This is a GREAT conversation (I am big a Babe Ruth, and NY Yankees, fan), VERY interesting, I had never pondered upon the thought of his ancestry prior to your videos (And I had NO IDEA (genuinely) that he had hung out in Harlem, NY, The Cotton Club, and dated black women regularly ("Extremely" eye-opening). Thank you for sharing.
Who cares about his race. What counts is he was a great baseball player ! and no one can take that from him.
@nelsonvelez570 close minded people it matters.
@@nelsonvelez570 It matters
My white (ginger) wife has a very similar same nose. People don’t always fit into neat little boxes.
... gingers are genetically similar to Africans. Google it.
My mother was a ginger with freckles and she was a blk American.
80% of my family are ginger with freckles and they are black as well.
Red hair nut brown Mom; black ginger.
@@ezpic2what?
These kind of difficult/surprising revelations are the reason I love this channel. I admire how you bravely state the "quiet parts" out loud. 💖
I don't follow sports, but am aware of the name Babe Ruth. Looking at his pictures, I see a fair-skinned Black man. I too was fascinated that those who were children in that era knew that he was Black and were shocked to hear that he was not(?) 😲🤔
Both he and Hoover were household names and I never thought about their race. I see Black men when I look at them and it is sad that they were not able to show their true selves during the eras in which they lived.
He's not black. There's no evidence he was 😅
George Herman Ruth is from German descent. He was a man who was not prejudice. He played with black ball players. I think that folks tried to bring him down because he was not prejudice. I'm a second cousin to Babe. His niece took a DNA test and there was no African ancestry in her DNA.
People seem to want to go with mere speculation and rumours... and how they think someone looks. Your comment is hidden away in the long list I'm scrolling through. Which is a pity.
A niece is not close enough.. it could’ve been his niece on his mother’s side which is known german. It would need to be a relative on his father’s side.
@@smooothsynergy652 not true.
That one drop of Black blood was the rule.
... still is.
It still is.🤬
All my white friends either claimed or hoped to be part Indian or black. Nada on dna tests. Things have changed and people instead of just accepting who they are, hope for a bit of non European blood. Just a real life observation
@@bluerfoot - Haha! Isn't it ironic? Nowadays, everyone wants to have that "one" drop ... and admit it! ROFLMAO!
And now it seems that it's black, not white people who adhere to this concept.
This is a very interesting topic, and thanks for providing the content. In the last few years, I've been digging deep into some of the hidden or forgotten Black history. I have to be honest: I didn't realize how much history was, and still isn't, told. Sure, the past is gone but, I refuse to neglect my due diligence in learning the history of my ancestors who suffered so much.
I never thought Babe Ruth was white! He doesn't even look white...in any of his pictures!
So you are trying to say he looks like Terrance Howard something like that
No, more like the American Indian Geronimo. @@AntonioCunningham-jr2oj
I always thought Baba Ruth like a light skin Black man ! 😮
I never thought about race with Ruth, or anyone else for that matter, but I never considered him as anything but white.
The hair is the last thing to go on a black man naps be honest
Always
Just found your channel, and I'm very happy I did. I have been tryin to trace my family tree and it's not going to well.
Never heard this before, but when you said it, I realized how it might be true. Our family has a myriad of shades. I am African American, but I know other people have made the choice. I am so proud of you. This is a wonderful channel for really getting to the heart of truth and reconciliation.
I always thought he was black. My aunt always said, ‘we know our own’.
Except he wasn’t, so I guess your aunt was full of shit…
He don’t look black to me
Then your aunt don’t know anything
@@Bobbillyjrboy how do you know?
Why did Ty Cobb call him the n word? He was bi-racial. It’s obvious. Believe what you want.
I heard that there was a Negro League player who had over 800 HRs in his career. I can't remember who, but if Babe Ruth was identified as black and couldn't play in the Majors, he would definitely tear up the Negro League. They kept the brothers out because we were just too good. They couldn't compete. Even Willie Mays, who was a former Negro League player, managed to become one of the all-time greats in the MLB. He's right up there with Ruth, Bonds and Aaron as one of the best who ever played.
RIP to Willie Mays. He just passed on yesterday at 93 years old...
😢the first man was black
Josh Gibson
They just combined the Negro League records w/ MLB records now. So a lot of the old great white hopes have been surpassed.
That was Josh Gibson.
I don't think that the kid at 3:38 is Babe Ruth. He's got his catcher's mitt on his left hand but Ruth threw left-handed (and quite well). I doubt if the Babe ever caught.
When I was a kid I threw, batted, and shot a gun with both hands, interchangeably. It's not too hard to imagine.
That's pretty clearly him.
This is really interesting. I'm a history guy and a big sports guy. I have studied race quite a bit, so I'm really surprised I never knew this. I just remember hearing how upset people were when Hank Aaron was "breaking a white man's record." He certainly looks like he could be black, so I could totally see this being the case. Crazy!
@MomeGnome I haven't seen many videos on this channel. I guess I'll have to watch a little more to figure out if it's BS.
My father-in-law (80+ now) and others on that side of the family are avid history buffs and sports fans. They’ve known this about Babe Ruth for many years. To them it’s common knowledge.
Cause it’s bs I’m from Baltimore he is from Pig Town and they all have those features they are tawny almost looking Gypsy but theses are white people mostly of German decent all white people aren’t blonde hair, blue eyed and pale. The man was white!
@@VCJ777😂😂😂😂 try again
@@dstreet43 looks like you didn’t try at all. What’s your point.
Mind blown ma'am! This is incredible information. Never had a clue.
I actually viewed yesterday, but forgot to leave comments. This blew my mind. As I was viewing the pictures on your video, I did notice that his skin tone tan. Now it could be that he got a great deal of sun growing up and it is what it is, but it did strike me as odd. I have to admit that the pictures I've seen of him as a child, did appear to show darker skin as well, but I put it down to grainy photos of the times. I've never heard about his friendships or relationship with Black people; I'm so apologetic because I assumed that he of the times and didn't care for Black people or wanted them to play in the major leagues. Now, I'm going to research him because I'm fascinated about why a White man who cross the color line to be friends with Blacks during those times, even with the speculation about him---he didn't stop. Also if he did have African heritage, what another interesting story for the history books.I wish Oi had known of this because I've players from the Negro leagues and I would have asked them what they thought. This video has blown my mind! Thank you for doing it.
I've heard the same about Tom Jones. (Although in Britain there are what they call the black Irish. Some think that survivors of the Spanish Armada might explain for dark, curly haired people in Britain.)
I know he's Welsh.
Or perhaps a " war baby?" Offspring of a WWII G.I.?
Tom Jones is mostly Welsh, one English grandparent. I remember Tom Jones before his nose job. The nose was very large, and aquiline, sort of Shylock type. He looked Mediterranean European. He probably curled his hair as well.
This is the first time i ever heard anything about Babe Ruth being biracial.
Not bi-, but mixed.
Nothing to talk about,they didn't want to break the Caucasian hearts that thought they had one!!!! Nothing New under the sun. Free facts...your welcome.
Tomato, Tomato
@@AutismAunnie biracial and mixed is literally the same thing. The correct term is biracial.
It’s because it’s made up out of thin air
Somebody finally said it out loud. When I was a little kid, I thought he was Black or Italian 🤷🏽♀️.
You telling me you thought Babe was African?? Like what tribe in Africa looks like Babe?
I always thought the actor who played as Paulie the Mob boss in movie Goodfellas looks like Babe Ruth
@@raulrambomeYou really don't realize how ignorant that sounds do you?
@@teishahickman2108Almost as ignorant as claiming the Babe was a blk man. 🤡
Italian, really? You must have a lot of strange Italians in the USA. I would say he was an ugly man, not a black man. Not all White people look like the Gods on Olympus, in fact none do.
It’s definitely possible. I’m a “black” man and I have relatives, a great-great uncle who passed as a “white” man and went on to become a judge and married a “white” woman in order, I’m sure, to further distant himself and any children from his “black” heritage. Even to this day, his grandchildren acknowledge that we’re related privately, but not in public.
Lol, I have 1st cousins like that. We're sociable at family functions but not outside of that. I would have liked to see their face when they got their Ancestry results and discovered we share all of the same African DNA groups. 😂
Screw them
@@freshprince130 …..Hey, I’m not mad at them. We have a LARGE extended family and they’re missing out on some rich history and community. I feel sorry for them, more than anything because they’re the ones who are missing out on learning where they came from and who their ancestors and where they came from. Family history is priceless.
Now that's some self hate to the max
My grandfather had all of these qualities. He was Italian.
Hannibal?
My uncle, that raised me, grew up in the same time period as Babe Ruth and looked almost identical to him. I often thought that my uncle probably had a black ancestor, but I haven’t done the research to verify if it may be true or not. On the other hand though, I went to the same church as Ty Cobb nephew (who recently passed away). That family lived and grew up in Georgie, right next to S.C., where I live. During that era, things were a lot different, especially here in the South. The schools were segregated and blacks lived on one side of the railroad tracks and whites on the other side, with little but some interaction.
Your uncle may have had a Black ancestor. Your mother or fathers brother, means your mother or father was related to the same Black ancestor. Interesting how you clearly disassociates with your own possible Blackness.
@@stevenpringle9492 : By what I wrote, I don’t get where you get the idea of dissociation. However, I’m not genetically related to my uncle. I am genetically related to his wife though… Does that turn a light bulb on in your little bitty head… By the way, I admire my uncle very much.
He does have many typical German features though. He also doesn't have the curly hair that almost all people with a black parent have. Also, Polish people notoriously have big noses and lips, as well as often having exceptionally tan skin, and there was a massive Polish population in Germany in the mid to late 1800s. Never in a million years would I look at Babe Ruth and think "That's a black man".
Our genetics when it comes to hair and stuff like that, is often determined by our mother, so if his father was black he would have still got his mother's hair. In most cases
@@ForestTre Hair patterns being primarily received by our mothers is a myth that has been repeatedly proven false. Black hair genes overpower white hair genes regardless of which parent was black almost every time.
People who are biracial come out looking all sorts of ways. They have straight hair, curly hair, light skin, more brown skin, fuller lips, thin lips. He could have been mixed from his European heritage before his parents ever hit these shores. African descended people traveled the world. We weren’t all slaves. My great grandfather was Cape Verdian and traveled the world as a whaling Captain. He was away from home a lot. This is how people mixed even when it was taboo.
@@MariamaLearningChannel you know what I find kind of ironic is that we are both from a country that claims it is a priest Nation on Earth and this is something that's always been touted but yet we have had more racial oppression than any other country. Thank you for doing this channel because it helps me to understand my grandparents a little bit better and what they went through
@@MariamaLearningChannel and by the way I'm proud to admit I have Africans in my history too but that's another story for another time
Excellent commentary, fair and pragmatic. You did a very comprehensive study.
Wow. I wasn't aware of any 0:52 of the "suspicion " or speculation about Ruth's ethnicity. I'm an American citizen who is Black, and I'm 60 years old, but this is the first time that this has been brought to my attention. A
@bemoguy
I'm also 60, when I was a kid a neighbor was was born in 1921 told me about that talked about when he was growing up. He told me his father who sold insurance would see him in Harlem all the time.
@@bhossast I'm 62 and been heard the speculation about Babe black, but this is the first time I am hearing of him being fond of black women. We don't know but maybe Babe has some black offspring from one of those encounters.
As African Americans
We have Allways Heard About
Babe Ruth
Millard Fillmore
Beethoven
Abigail Adams
And My list could go On
@@BrendaMenny
Look at Dwight Eisenhower when he was in his twenties. I saw a picture and thought it was a black man.
Called intraracial which is not talked of compared to interracial. Peep what Ben Franklin said. Many ppl deemed white today are white consideration or on paper.
A lot of Black southerners from Alabama moved to Baltimore back in those days!!!! They named a chocolate candy bar after him!!!!!! That says it all for me!! They could have named the candy bar PayDay after him but they didn't! They named a chocolate bar after him😂😂This was their inside joke!! This is really hurting white people!! They probably hate him now😂😂
You cracked it by the name of the candy bar. Lol
@@tjn2254 LOL,All FACTS!!
Too bad, they are not as great as they would like us to believe.
That's why Lincoln is on the penny, because it's brown.
The only one who worries about this is black people sorry. I could care less if babe Ruth was black,white or whatever. So give it a rest no one cares about the mix of people except black people I know truth hurts.
In the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries, people of color were exiled from Europe. The Moors, sephardic jews, Jacobites, etc... it's possible that Ruth, being of German descent, has people of color in his ancestry. Benjamin Franklin, in his essay, "Concerning the Increase of Mankind, Peopling of Countries, etc.", described the Germans as tawny (dark), and was concerned about the quantity of Germans in Pennsylvania. I have seen run-a-way ads from the 18th that describe some runaway indentured servants as "black" and "speaks with the getman tongue". So, was he black by the one drop rule? Possibly. Just because his parents look white, doesnt mean anything. Traits skip generations, and not necessarily his father's biological child.
So true!
Interesting
Agreed
That’s complete bullshit. I’m German. German people do not have any black blood in them. Moors just had a presence in the Roman Empire for a very short period of time, there is no evidence that widespread intermixing was going on between Moors and Europeans, if any intermixing at all occurred.
This is surprising to me that there was controversy over Babe Ruth’s race. Especially when you revealed that he had German immigrant heritage.
I’m looking at a picture of my husband and the pictures of Babe in your story and I recognize the similarities in their facial features. Both have wide full lips and short wide noses. When I look at both those faces I see German faces. I also am of German heritage and have wide full lips but a longer skinny nose.
In high school I was even bullied for having wide full lips. They called them n word lips. It made me upset because I knew that using that racial slur was meant to demean my looks.
When beauty standards changed from thin lips to full lips this worked in my favour. I’ve even heard a friend of my own children say in a positive way they have lips like black people. I was so glad that this friend described it as a beautiful feature and not use it to try to make them feel shameful about the way they looked.
I think Babe Ruth was German but had a more open mind than many people of his time about race relations. He obviously didn’t care that people knew he visited the cotton club.
So far as his facial features it is my personal experience that they are common features in people of German heritage. At least to me he looks like many of my family.
I think America has alot of negative KARMA coming. Alot. No one escapes this spiritual law. How can people treat other humans so horribly?
This is the truth.
Lol you don't even understand the reak. Concept of KARMA, drop the western new age mumbo jumbo,learn the REAL HINDU concept of karama
@@josephperkins4857 dude, we are all working it off. Every day and every life. We are all trying to get to the end of this hurting the least amount of people. The United States has as a force of many people done harm, a collective harm and we are all gonna have to work that off. Whether reincarnation is real or we die and turn to energy and dust, when we are here we better stop trying to do the most.
I have taken a DNA test and I have 0% recent African ancestry but, I have an uncle who has similar features to Babe Ruth. My uncle has a bit of German ancestry. I grew up in an area that was founded by German settlers. To this day most of the people have German ancestry and a lot of the men look similar to Babe. Yes, there were people back then passing for white but that may not be the case with Babe. If he was white, I respect him even more for having a diverse group of friends and not caring what the public thinks about that
Germany was civilized by black skinned people .the first people of Europe were black. There’s plenty obvious art of the Moors that ruled the continent then I suggest you research that
Yeah his facial features remind me of my German relatives.
Babe Ruth features not only have a negroid nose but his “darker” complexion indicates that he is not pure German descent who have pure white colored skin. If he doesn’t have Black ancestry then I would bet there is Native American/Indian ancestry.
Just because you have 0% African ancestry doesn't mean your uncle doesn't.
You don't inherit all the genes your own parents have, so definitely don't inherit all those of their siblings.
In addition your own siblings will inherit different combinations of DNA from your parents.
There are vloggers who work/worked doing DNA analysis who can explain all this.
Huguenots and Moors were in Germany too.
I knew his sister and she looked completely white, which she was. I really don't believe they were "passing".
Keep up the good work!!! It's definitely important, fascinating stuff.
I didn't know about Babe Ruth, but I see African Ancestry in the photos. I did know about Dinah Shore. My mother had older friends that knew people in her family.
But her Jewish people in her family got her to New York Radio. Why with that squeaky thin voice, I never understood.
Dorothy Lamor too ❤
The stories about Ty Cobb being Racist are known. The thing is that there have been MANY mixed Race people in Michigan and in the Detroit area for at least 200 years or more. It is not surprising that Ruth had some Black roots. But going by the hair, there had to be some Native American ancestry as well. In Ruth's case, he was a pioneer. He was one of a few who beat the system of segregation. There were several others. George Herriman, Creator of KRAZY KAT was the first Black American Cartoonist over 100 years ago.
Thanks for posting it, I appreciate it🌺
Babe Ruth was black and his real name was Tyrone Henry Jenkins!!
If 1 per cent makes you black, then I'm white. DNA is DNA!
Having any bit of African DNA in you was a big deal back in the day because the ruling class people of European descent wanted to keep their bloodline pure.
Purity and separation mattered a lot to certain people back in the day.
@@Galidorquestseparation is better than integration with white people
@@Galidorquest Nothing is pure under the sun. We get what we focus on.
I'm 73 and growing up most people knew Ruth was passing for white but didn't care, he was an icon.
You may think that, but most people don't think that.
If most people thought that, he would not have been playing baseball unless the negro leagues were around. What's the necessity in fooling yourself in that way. Many of the players would have probably beat him with a bat because they hated Black people so much.
I'm sorry but Danielle is a baddie.
Lol, focus.
@@lovealwaysbibi3336 nah you're right lol
Yes indeed
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Don't be sorry, fam!👀
I was waiting on this video
Trying to black wash Italians lmfao
Brains and beauty, you are amazing!
Northeast Ohio thanks you.🥰
I don't know how this video ended up on my YT, but this was a great video, very informative, and she is gorgeous!!
Wow, I had no idea!!!! Thanks for sharing!
This is an interesting point and I hadn’t heard it before, but regarding The Cotton Club in Harlem, you’re off. The club featured all black musicians and dancers, but the customers were all white. No blacks allowed. And white men fooling around with black women on the side was not at all unusual in US history as we all know well. The relationships might have been well known, but they weren’t socially “acceptable”. Obviously we’ve come far - thank heaven - from the racial attitudes that shaped that time. But a dna report on The Babe would be an interesting addition to the conversation about that time.
If he had had African heritage that he was hiding, he probably wouldn't have had relationships with African-American women, because that would have (and did) open him up to accusations of being part black, which seems like something he would want to avoid; it reminds me of your great-grandmother Lola, who cut off almost all ties with her black relatives in order to pass as white in society, which makes perfect sense. However, I think that Babe Ruth might have had some southern European, or Native American blood in him, to account for those aspects of his appearance that made people question his whiteness.
I remember seeing photos of my Sicilian and southern Italian grandparents when they were children and young adults at the same time as Babe Ruth's career, and in group photos of them with their friends (who were mostly Sicilian, southern Italian, Mexican, Portuguese and Greek), I notice the same wide nose and olive-toned/tan skin. Of course, these kids were from farming/fruit-growing families in California during the '20s, '30s, and '40s, so they were used to spending a lot of time outside while working and playing, so they were tanned, but they look darker than the white kids from farming families who were in their school photos and yearbooks.
Your post is ridiculous! He's mixed with everything but Black to you. Another who does not want to entertain the thought of him being mixed with Black. Elvis Presley and Mae West were also rumored to be mixed with Black. It didn't stop them from having relations with Blacks. Back then things were segregated. So only the Black community would have known about it. They did not date Blacks openly. Which is why you could not find any pics. It was behind the doors. Hush dating.
So tired of Italians claiming they were white. The Moors was in Italy first and when these Mediterranean people came and claimed to want to be their friends and then they did just like the English did the Native American. Ok stop your mixed people. Your Black.
It’s not that easy to say someone was Native American because the indigenous of the Americas are very close net people, it never would’ve remained a secret
Just because someone is tanned does not make them chocolate black
@@AntonioCunningham-jr2oj he's if African decent somewhere. Many African Americans claimed Italian during segregation.🤣🤣🤣
This is one Amazing Channel ⚾️
Beautiful presentation, great talk.
I skimmed your videos on you page to get a quick idea of what your content is about. I find it funny after I commented on a SNL skit that “white ppl will say they have Italian in their blood to excuse any black looking features” then suddenly I get recommend your channel lol.
LOL oh no