Note: prices have increased by $400-600 since we finished this edit - best idea is to price up the spec you like on the manufacturer’s website to see what you’d pay, and what stock/waits are like.
Really good review enjoy watching your content however as independent mechanic I get really frustrated when everyone complains about service costs. $ 600 per year is quite reasonable. I run my own shop & it costs me an enormous amount of money to be able to be licensed to use the software for a lot of the major brands. yet if I charge a higher price everyone starts complaining so I charge less & have work longer hours to make up the short fall.
Fair enough too. Tiguen R has stiff ride and doesn't offer that much difference in real world driving. You get 90% of the R in this. That colour is really nice. Problem is the Kodiaq VRS is bigger inside, has another 20kw and much better interior and seats than the R line......
One man's still ride is another man's stable ride. Its never the Rolls Royce floaty ride, but its not harsh either. Besides, the active dampers allow you to dial in the ride to your prefer, as long as its not extreme -- its a performance SUV. You can also option smaller wheels if that's still not cushy enough for you.
I've got a 147Tdi R Line & it's been brilliant . Done just over 70 k in about 12 months . Hasn't missed a beat so far. A couple of early niggles, but they were sorted quickly
@@neehalkhan2926 it's more in the trim . The R Line has a few more features , but the Elegance doesn't miss out either. Go to CarSales & compare the 2 variants . But the Elegance will do the job nicely . Grab the diesel now as it will be deleted early next yr . Good stocks of 2023 model diesel variants at the moment. Once the diesel goes it will likely become a special import, but VW will need a particular number of orders to bring Those variants in.
@@Coastmac2001when u say cant complain, is it too. Stiff for you or soft? I am looking for a balance, where its not to jiggly in the city or highway and not too stiff as well. Does the Adpative chassis control work well?
Nice review Tom. When are you actually going to compare the VW product with Skoda? I’d love to see what comparing the Allspace with the Kodiaq turns up. While the RS Kodiaq is no match for the Tiguan R, I’d still like top see a fight out between them. Adding Cupra may also be interesting. How about a VAG mega test show down. Various Kodiaq models v similarly or closely specced VW v some Cupras. No one seems to want to do this but they would certainly be cross shopped by now. Also, I believe there is plenty of Skoda stock depending on colour. Lloyd
Had an RLine 162 for a couple of years but did not gel with it. The gearbox is slow to kickdown, at least for my driving style. The GTi drove much much better.
It is one of the very handsome SUV's money can buy and pretty reasonable too in terms of price but its never been a reliable car. After 50ks on the clock there can be so much that can go wrong. I encourage everyone to warch the redriven channel too before making buying decisions.. Sorry VW my 70K is better spent elsewhere. Yet hats off to the looks !!!
If reliability is your preference, then you need to be shopping Japanese. German cars are sporty, and no performance cars are known for their reliability. That includes all German brands, regardless of price.
Nice review. I had to stop at “ it requires premium petrol” ; but I was already a bit thrown off by its almost 60 grand sticker price . 60 grand is a LOT of money and while this is nice , the sticker price and running costs make it not so nice ….
I think the Tiggy is due a facelift soon along with the Touareg (?), not sure why but our (NZ) R-line got upgraded to 180kw some time back, the Skoda Kodiak RS also gets the same 180kw version of the EA888.
@@kylosolo6128 that’s stupid behaviour . The wait and consequent price hikes will ruin whatever fuel savings they could have got. Besides, other than that fabulous hybrid engine, the RAV4 is total shit in terms on interior quality. The GX and GXL is positively rental spec. Atrocious!!
@@sidjyothi The RAV4 Prime is 50k with an economy car interior. It makes the Tiguan look luxurious. Although they do still offer real buttons and knobs.
Why buy a stripped down version of a car? Either get the car you won't, or buy something else with the feature you looked for in the first place. BTW, the haptic control will not be disappearing completely. You will still have to use the infotainment to do some pretty simple tasks such as adjust the direction of the HVAC air flow. Its a totally useless feature even if it were in a luxury car. I would have preferred an option of an audiophile sound system or even better, a power adjusting steering wheel with memory, even as an option. A much more useful and pragmatic feature not typically found at this level as a step up in comfort features. Reminds me of Teslas need to use the infotainment screen just to open the glove box, which I would find silly and annoying.
@jmarxful well if your not getting the R, your poor. Trying to save an extra dollar for what? Cos they can't afford it. I don't know, I've upgraded to a mercedes now so I can't remember what being poor and driving a vw is like.
Totally agree. The R buyers are a small segment of total Tiguan buyers. But if that higher level of performance is what you're looking for, you're not going to settle for anything less.
didnt like this car at all. The sound insulation is horrible.. May be I felt it more cause I own 2022 BMW as well and this could have been the second car. But that didn't happen
Was about to comment the same thing. Yes cx5 may not be as sophisticated as vw tiguan but performance,nvh,handling is on par, perhaps better with cheaper price
Note: prices have increased by $400-600 since we finished this edit - best idea is to price up the spec you like on the manufacturer’s website to see what you’d pay, and what stock/waits are like.
New 2024 model coming . This is a run out model . Why wait 12 months
@chasingcars. Do you think the reverse camera image/camera is worse or the same as the Skoda Karoq ?
Great work Tom. Nerding out over rear seat accommodation and light interiors shows attention to detail.
Really good review enjoy watching your content however as independent mechanic I get really frustrated when everyone complains about service costs. $ 600 per year is quite reasonable. I run my own shop & it costs me an enormous amount of money to be able to be licensed to use the software for a lot of the major brands. yet if I charge a higher price everyone starts complaining so I charge less & have work longer hours to make up the short fall.
Most people pay more per year for their mobiles.
Good point.
Agreed I currently drive a Toyota Fortuner and even with a fixed price servicing package its $260 and you have to service it twice a year
Fair enough too. Tiguen R has stiff ride and doesn't offer that much difference in real world driving. You get 90% of the R in this. That colour is really nice.
Problem is the Kodiaq VRS is bigger inside, has another 20kw and much better interior and seats than the R line......
I like the Kodiaq but it's not worth the extra money over a Tiguan.
$77k for kodiaq rs
The kodiaq sportline is 68k when specced to tiquan r line level. but has the 132 engine
Kodiaq is more a large suv
One man's still ride is another man's stable ride. Its never the Rolls Royce floaty ride, but its not harsh either. Besides, the active dampers allow you to dial in the ride to your prefer, as long as its not extreme -- its a performance SUV. You can also option smaller wheels if that's still not cushy enough for you.
I've got a 147Tdi R Line & it's been brilliant . Done just over 70 k in about 12 months . Hasn't missed a beat so far. A couple of early niggles, but they were sorted quickly
Hi, how is the ride comfort compared to Elegance? Really confused.
@@neehalkhan2926 pretty good . Can't complain. There shouldn't be any difference in ride compliance between any of the petrol or diesel models
@@Coastmac2001 i am actually looking to buy Tiguan allspace 147tdi but confused between elegance n r-line
@@neehalkhan2926 it's more in the trim . The R Line has a few more features , but the Elegance doesn't miss out either. Go to CarSales & compare the 2 variants . But the Elegance will do the job nicely . Grab the diesel now as it will be deleted early next yr . Good stocks of 2023 model diesel variants at the moment. Once the diesel goes it will likely become a special import, but VW will need a particular number of orders to bring Those variants in.
@@Coastmac2001when u say cant complain, is it too. Stiff for you or soft? I am looking for a balance, where its not to jiggly in the city or highway and not too stiff as well. Does the Adpative chassis control work well?
Hi Tom what car do you own and why??
Nice review Tom. When are you actually going to compare the VW product with Skoda? I’d love to see what comparing the Allspace with the Kodiaq turns up. While the RS Kodiaq is no match for the Tiguan R, I’d still like top see a fight out between them. Adding Cupra may also be interesting. How about a VAG mega test show down. Various Kodiaq models v similarly or closely specced VW v some Cupras. No one seems to want to do this but they would certainly be cross shopped by now. Also, I believe there is plenty of Skoda stock depending on colour. Lloyd
Great review Tom. Better than the perfunctory EV review. ( you all may need to look that word up)
Had an RLine 162 for a couple of years but did not gel with it. The gearbox is slow to kickdown, at least for my driving style. The GTi drove much much better.
Are all the Tiguans 2023 missing blind spot sensor and blind spot sensor active assist?
It is one of the very handsome SUV's money can buy and pretty reasonable too in terms of price but its never been a reliable car. After 50ks on the clock there can be so much that can go wrong. I encourage everyone to warch the redriven channel too before making buying decisions.. Sorry VW my 70K is better spent elsewhere. Yet hats off to the looks !!!
If reliability is your preference, then you need to be shopping Japanese. German cars are sporty, and no performance cars are known for their reliability. That includes all German brands, regardless of price.
We have the 2018 vw tig r line. Love it
who gets out a of long drive refreshed ? regardless of type of seats
Sorry bub, but that's the whole point of proper seats. That also goes for the rest of the features/amenities within the cabin.
Nice review. I had to stop at “ it requires premium petrol” ; but I was already a bit thrown off by its almost 60 grand sticker price . 60 grand is a LOT of money and while this is nice , the sticker price and running costs make it not so nice ….
curious, what car in it's place are you getting cheaper and as good as
this?
Excellent review
Thank you kindly
Nice review Tom. I see the dreaded warning light on the infotainment at 3.22 do you know what the issue was?
It's probably just a door open warning
I think the Tiggy is due a facelift soon along with the Touareg (?), not sure why but our (NZ) R-line got upgraded to 180kw some time back, the Skoda Kodiak RS also gets the same 180kw version of the EA888.
New model tiquan coming soon
@@rjbiker66 hmmmm with the 180 kW engine??
@@darrenbryans8288 There will be a variety of engines, same as now. But including two hybrids. No EV though. There's the ID3/4 for that.
@@rjbiker66 It is scheduled to go on sale in Europe in September 2023 as a 2024 model.
In 18 months, the new Tig will be here. Pity there is no stock
I thought you cannot order the R-Line anymore?
12 months wait? the car technically is NOT for sale in that case. would you wait 12 months for what is essentially an appliance? :)
this is nothing new. people have been waiting 2+ years on Toyota hybrids ever since lockdowns lol
@@kylosolo6128 that’s stupid behaviour . The wait and consequent price hikes will ruin whatever fuel savings they could have got. Besides, other than that fabulous hybrid engine, the RAV4 is total shit in terms on interior quality. The GX and GXL is positively rental spec. Atrocious!!
Yeah, it is for sale. You just have to wait for it.
@@sidjyothi The RAV4 Prime is 50k with an economy car interior. It makes the Tiguan look luxurious. Although they do still offer real buttons and knobs.
@@kylosolo6128 I was just about to say that. People have been waiting for years for the Cyber truck, and still counting.
Does it have blind spot monitoring and rear cross traffic alert? I recall it was removed last year.
Not removed, chip shortage deleted.
Is it actually worth the 70 k price tag
Please review Honda ZRV
Why buy a stripped down version of a car? Either get the car you won't, or buy something else with the feature you looked for in the first place.
BTW, the haptic control will not be disappearing completely. You will still have to use the infotainment to do some pretty simple tasks such as adjust the direction of the HVAC air flow. Its a totally useless feature even if it were in a luxury car.
I would have preferred an option of an audiophile sound system or even better, a power adjusting steering wheel with memory, even as an option. A much more useful and pragmatic feature not typically found at this level as a step up in comfort features. Reminds me of Teslas need to use the infotainment screen just to open the glove box, which I would find silly and annoying.
If It is not 615L, can I sue you?
A true driver would want the R. Only soccer mums would get the Rline
Yawn. Massive oversimplification.
@@chasingcars haha,. The r line is for poor people. That's the only reason anyone would get it over the R.
@@golbs7542lol wealthy people don't drive VW so I don't know why you made such an irrelevant comment.
@jmarxful well if your not getting the R, your poor. Trying to save an extra dollar for what? Cos they can't afford it.
I don't know, I've upgraded to a mercedes now so I can't remember what being poor and driving a vw is like.
Totally agree. The R buyers are a small segment of total Tiguan buyers. But if that higher level of performance is what you're looking for, you're not going to settle for anything less.
didnt like this car at all. The sound insulation is horrible.. May be I felt it more cause I own 2022 BMW as well and this could have been the second car. But that didn't happen
Mazda cx 5, should be better ...vw has inherent obsession with front wheel drive ...
Was about to comment the same thing. Yes cx5 may not be as sophisticated as vw tiguan but performance,nvh,handling is on par, perhaps better with cheaper price
Yeah nah only if you’re a senior 😂
There's better driver SUVs out there. If you can call it such a thing.
Name one. In the same class.