@@Counterpoints is that one space marine in the end who was wearing the tooth Ragnar blackmane, he’s that one space marine, who fought ghazkull mag Uruk thraka for seven days and killed him?
its worth noting that luck is an actual thing in 40k. its not clear if its connected to the warp or not, but it definitely nerfs or boosts your stats depending on if its bad or good.
One of the things I hate about fantasy viking like people is that despite living in a frozen tundra, they all seem to forget to cover the upper portions of the body. I dont know if that's part of the trails that aspirants have to fight bear chested, but if not, then I imagine most aspirants would die of exposure long before they found a monster.
You're right, however in this situation I believe the aspirants have already been slightly modified considering they're sprinting along the tree branches as if it was a treadmill.
I mean the homeworld of the salamanders is quite literally just a volcanic wasteland but it's not as bad as the jungle fighters or the space wolves worlds.
These challenges are stupid when you think about it, a strong and a cunning potential space marines died because they did not have luck yet full fledged space marines die like flies when facing the tau, tyranids, chaos demons, chaos marines, eldari, orks and the necrons... there's nothing this trials do that increases a chance of them surviving in actual combat against other factions, they are just limiting the stock of good men needed in the war machine...
I agree for the most part, it is ridiculously over the top. Although I think part of the idea behind this trial is that they have no shortage of aspirants from this ruthlessly tough and uncaring planet. Due to the Space Wolves Chapter not being “codex-compliant” this is their way of safeguarding their geneseed by only giving it to the few. The more any Chapter recruits, the less their stock becomes and the less likely their apothecaries (wolf-priests in this case) are able to recover their limited amounts of geneseed from Astartes corpses that get scattered in battles across the stars.
the only thing I pray is that Syama Pederson at GW gets to be a big part of Cavill's project there, PLEASE GW PLEASE GW PLEASE GW PLEASE GW The one man animation alone puts multimillion dollar studios to shame, imagine that with an amazon tier budget????
The Space Wolves are among my top favorite chapters. They are honorable, they can see value in normal humans if they're brave enough and they tore the Grey Knights a new one.
I’m right there with you, but space wolves being able to beat Grey knights is very lore breaking and highly illogical haha… oh Gamesworkshop you brilliant idiot
Something I haven't seen pointed out in any review on this ep is the age of the Neophytes. You can see that they haven't gotten the Black Carapace YET.... even tho they are already enhanced these boys are less than 16 years old.
That ice planet is kind of dumb , food is scarce yet somehow theres enough to support the diets of beasts growing to monstrous size ? I still like the episode even though it doesnt make logical sense .
If you need to explain space wolf trial to anyone in the military, its as if SAS did whats already the hardest selection but across siberia instead of Wales, dodging wolves the size of bears and bears the size of elephants and theres no Return To Unit (or tribe) for failure.
Considering how in depth and well put your analysis on the warhammer universe is I do have a question about the space wolves as a whole. If their world does get destroyed by Magnus what are their options to continue their recruitment?
Primaris Marines gave them a new lease on life and successor chapters. That wasn’t true before. They just as easily could become a fleet based chapter and recruit on worlds they wage war on. Some chapters already do this. Also there are a lot of Death worlds in the imperium, they could pick a new one. Valhalla would be a good candidate as they already have a hardy population used to the cold and bitter warfare.
@@Counterpoints true that, but knowing Magnus and the grudges of the thousand sons for what happened on Prospero, I doubt they are gonna ever give up on ending the space wolves. Do you think that Magnus and his sons will not stop with just the space wolves, but even their successor chapters, the planets of those same chapters, and all allied with Leman Russ?
1:12 Space wolf"no Conner, the apprentices are not enhanced at all" Conner"really....then explain how one of your apprentices is jumping from tree to tree like this then"? Me"yeah... How many normal humans do you know who can do that then huh..name one" space wolf".......all right fine they are slightly enhanced ok" me"yeah that is what we all thought"
Totally loved this episode, would have loved to see more about the space wolves. The animation was awesome and your views on it really made me wanna learn more bout warhammer 40k
There is a modern day equivalent I live near Daytona Beach Florida. I have watched Canadians during January out on the beach and nothing but shorts so I get it real Floridians don’t go to the beach until it’s at least 75°.
the last guy was indeed lucky cause he dint get gut pouring out when that wolf slash him and not having what ever the octopus looking thing in the background come to investigate what he and the wolf doing down on his house , he do have strength but seem to be less cunning then the second guy but for sure more lucky then both of the previous one
I don't know how you feel about remastering these videos but it really is cool to see the effort and reflection upon your past work. The pervious versions were good I think, the current versions you're releasing are great! Good lore breakdowns that really pick up on the details we miss. Also the beginner lore is crucial for some people with how expansive the universe is. HUGE props to you for your commitment and your passion for Warhammer. I'll always support you as a creator because you seem to love what you do here, also it is cool to hear your thoughts and opinions as well! I do like a good tangent here and there. :)
The continent it is on doesn't experience on the same upheaval the rest of the planet does, so the ground is stable. Fun fact, it was stable enough for there to be caves that the first colonist to the planet built cities in (rather than live on the unstable ocean or the deadly surface) but something happened down there that killed/corrupted everyone so they were abandoned and it is now forbidden to go there.
Basically a combination of forced evolutionary virus and Tzeentchian shenanigans messed with the original settlers in the cave system. Part of the reason why there was a Tzeentch helmet in the water scene with the wolf in the foreground. The lore is super deep on this one.
@@Counterpoints My first thoughts when watching the episode were that it was cheesy how athletic they were making the tribal guy….then the explanation that they’d already been dosed with gene seed… Cavil needs to go all out with this franchise and producing whatever he’s going to produce….how cool to see a full on serious series production, without the nonsense..
@@loganross1861 I’m praying that it’s ambitious enough to be amazing and humble enough to be good. If I was going to do a Horus heresy series I would only get Peter Jackson to direct and the props people from the new Halo series. Otherwise I would do something small like Eisenhorn.
@Counterpoints sorry my fault for not being specific and mahalo for replying, I love your channel ! But I meant water creature lol, there was a moment during which the last aspirant and his soon to be trophy were sinking and there was a large silhouette of a creature swimming in the background.
@@Counterpoints known to be hunted by the southern islander fenrisen tribes (described as dark of skin and temper), the 3rd great company, the sea wolves, is known to recruit from these tribes
I want to watch these so bad but Warhammer Plus is shut down in Canada. Even with a VPN I have to use a Canadian credit card when I pay so I get blocked there. Lame.
I’m sure it’s Fenrisian religion adapted for the Imperium with the Emperors divinity being held differently by different people. To consider him not a God at this point is kind of crazy.
8:35 It's even a wonder any stables humans populations could last long in that planet not to mention any fauna. There should be no life left beside the Wolves who are hiding cozily in their fortress. 9:30 So strong enough to break a stalagmit and use it as a weapon but not strong enough to just grab his sword while he dodge the bear ? 9:41 That's a male ? I thought it was the mother. 11:39 Now that's just ridiculous, no animals would make a suicidal jump into the void just to kill its hunter. 14:22 They don't even know the fauna of their own world ?
@@Counterpoints amen... because when their stuff is more viking oriented it really looks cool. But because that isn't the case they suck so so so much I feel like. Their dreaddies look pretty cool too.
@@dougjones3305 honestly you have to head canon that stuff and look at the helmets and shoulder pads from Liber Daemonica. If you hear too many furry jokes and look at the wolf helmets too much they start to become unappealing
@@Counterpoints haha yea for sure. It's almost like that scene from ace ventura where he starts noticing all the animal heads hung throughout the room but with a furry umdertone.
Yea make it look like generic anime. With people jumping 3 storys high. Just way too absurd for no reason. Dont we already have enought of this impossible anime shit. Just make the fighting choreographie nice rather than these overly dramatic and boring sequences than dont actually make sence. I hope people soon get bored of this stupidity we have had it for 30 years now and I just need something more. Dont get me wrong I love warhammer but Im just tired of how they make everything the same always.
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That punch never gets old.
When you realize the Space Wolves Aspirants are just Catachan Guardsmen on a Ice/Tundra World instead of a Jungle one.
I wish the Raptors or Mantis warriors or a chapter like them were based on Catachan
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So do the Raptors and Mantis Warriors. 😏
That's why I have currently 2000$ worth of item representing the IMPERIAL GAURD
@@Counterpoints is that one space marine in the end who was wearing the tooth Ragnar blackmane, he’s that one space marine, who fought ghazkull mag Uruk thraka for seven days and killed him?
@@Uncleruckus33 probably not because I think I see Primaris armor and Ragnar was firstborn
its worth noting that luck is an actual thing in 40k. its not clear if its connected to the warp or not, but it definitely nerfs or boosts your stats depending on if its bad or good.
I find it hilarious that an axe was an option but the other dudes pretty much chose a small dagger haha
Love the detail of a Rubric Marine helm at the bottom of the lake
Did Magnus win in his siege of Fenris?
@@somerandomdude3729 Nope for ridiculous reasons
@@RighteousInquisition Magnus being Magnus I assume?
Space Wolves are easily in my top 5 of space marine chapters, including the Lamenters.
One of the things I hate about fantasy viking like people is that despite living in a frozen tundra, they all seem to forget to cover the upper portions of the body. I dont know if that's part of the trails that aspirants have to fight bear chested, but if not, then I imagine most aspirants would die of exposure long before they found a monster.
You're right, however in this situation I believe the aspirants have already been slightly modified considering they're sprinting along the tree branches as if it was a treadmill.
@Ascension646 you may be right if so, then my criticism is withdrawn
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It obviously doesn’t make any sense. However considering all the totally insane sht in 40k, this should be still one of the most reasonable aspects
At the beginning the exposed skin was strange to me, but by the end, it would have been stranger to see them fully clothed.
IMO: The only planet tougher than Fenries is Catachan; the only two planet harsh enough to end you just by existing.
Reading the lore for Fenris I was impressed at how messed up it was
@@CounterpointsI think the viking theme park theory makes sense.
@@V.B.Squire I didn’t include it in the video but it’s fun to think about feral and feudal worlds kept in conflict for space marine recruitment
@@V.B.Squire Vikings never had a life or culture as though and messed up as that.
I mean the homeworld of the salamanders is quite literally just a volcanic wasteland but it's not as bad as the jungle fighters or the space wolves worlds.
These challenges are stupid when you think about it, a strong and a cunning potential space marines died because they did not have luck yet full fledged space marines die like flies when facing the tau, tyranids, chaos demons, chaos marines, eldari, orks and the necrons... there's nothing this trials do that increases a chance of them surviving in actual combat against other factions, they are just limiting the stock of good men needed in the war machine...
Thems the breaks bro
I agree for the most part, it is ridiculously over the top. Although I think part of the idea behind this trial is that they have no shortage of aspirants from this ruthlessly tough and uncaring planet. Due to the Space Wolves Chapter not being “codex-compliant” this is their way of safeguarding their geneseed by only giving it to the few.
The more any Chapter recruits, the less their stock becomes and the less likely their apothecaries (wolf-priests in this case) are able to recover their limited amounts of geneseed from Astartes corpses that get scattered in battles across the stars.
When the aspirant and the wolf sink deeper into the water, notice the movement of a silhouette in the background?
He had luck, indeed.
the only thing I pray is that Syama Pederson at GW gets to be a big part of Cavill's project there, PLEASE GW PLEASE GW PLEASE GW PLEASE GW
The one man animation alone puts multimillion dollar studios to shame, imagine that with an amazon tier budget????
Bro, I’m praying so hard.
Aaaand its gone
The Space Wolves are among my top favorite chapters. They are honorable, they can see value in normal humans if they're brave enough and they tore the Grey Knights a new one.
I’m right there with you, but space wolves being able to beat Grey knights is very lore breaking and highly illogical haha… oh Gamesworkshop you brilliant idiot
You just listed the reasons why they are among my fvourites too.
I love the Lamenters and the Salamanders. They are known to fight even for the weakest of civvies.
Space wolves are literally the worst and most cringe chapter in all of 40k
Something I haven't seen pointed out in any review on this ep is the age of the Neophytes. You can see that they haven't gotten the Black Carapace YET.... even tho they are already enhanced these boys are less than 16 years old.
I think this episode is literally the first day or so they get exposed to gene seed
That ice planet is kind of dumb , food is scarce yet somehow theres enough to support the diets of beasts growing to monstrous size ?
I still like the episode even though it doesnt make logical sense .
Polar bears are massive even though food is scarce near the poles.
predators tend to be larger in the cold so they have more fat to keep them warm.
The Space Wolves are the druid class space marines. Awesome
i like the thousand sons helmet under the water. Cool little detail
If you need to explain space wolf trial to anyone in the military, its as if SAS did whats already the hardest selection but across siberia instead of Wales, dodging wolves the size of bears and bears the size of elephants and theres no Return To Unit (or tribe) for failure.
So based
Hardest selection, in the UK.
@@minecraftfox4384 and which selection did you do?
Awesome video as always!!! I’ve been on a Warhammer binge lately, and it’s great to watch your vids for extra general knowledge 🤘🏼🔥🔥
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Considering how in depth and well put your analysis on the warhammer universe is I do have a question about the space wolves as a whole. If their world does get destroyed by Magnus what are their options to continue their recruitment?
Primaris Marines gave them a new lease on life and successor chapters. That wasn’t true before. They just as easily could become a fleet based chapter and recruit on worlds they wage war on. Some chapters already do this. Also there are a lot of Death worlds in the imperium, they could pick a new one. Valhalla would be a good candidate as they already have a hardy population used to the cold and bitter warfare.
@@Counterpoints true that, but knowing Magnus and the grudges of the thousand sons for what happened on Prospero, I doubt they are gonna ever give up on ending the space wolves. Do you think that Magnus and his sons will not stop with just the space wolves, but even their successor chapters, the planets of those same chapters, and all allied with Leman Russ?
1:12 Space wolf"no Conner, the apprentices are not enhanced at all" Conner"really....then explain how one of your apprentices is jumping from tree to tree like this then"? Me"yeah... How many normal humans do you know who can do that then huh..name one" space wolf".......all right fine they are slightly enhanced ok" me"yeah that is what we all thought"
Totally loved this episode, would have loved to see more about the space wolves. The animation was awesome and your views on it really made me wanna learn more bout warhammer 40k
TFW you realize your Fenrisian Wolves need to be painted.
Becomes a neophyte but dies 5 minutes on his 1st mission
Marine have fake death function, so chances are he gets rescue and resurrect by apothecary if wounded.
What animation is the opening to the video from? The one with the orks and marines fighting
Astartes 2 trailer
i hope we get more hammer and bolter, it gets flack for shoddy animation, but i like it and the stories are really great
There is a modern day equivalent I live near Daytona Beach Florida. I have watched Canadians during January out on the beach and nothing but shorts so I get it real Floridians don’t go to the beach until it’s at least 75°.
It's better to be lucky than good... Iron Within brothers and cousins lol
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the last guy was indeed lucky cause he dint get gut pouring out when that wolf slash him and not having what ever the octopus looking thing in the background come to investigate what he and the wolf doing down on his house , he do have strength but seem to be less cunning then the second guy but for sure more lucky then both of the previous one
Como se llama la música o el compositor de la música al final del capitulo almenos el género de tal así descargo al menos música similar
More people need to know about this channel
Aw yeah I been waiting for more!
07 thanks for the comment king
Was that a thousand son helmet in the water there?
Sure was! There was a Tzeenthcian cult in the caves and 2 Thousands Sons incursions onto Fenris so far.
I don't know how you feel about remastering these videos but it really is cool to see the effort and reflection upon your past work. The pervious versions were good I think, the current versions you're releasing are great! Good lore breakdowns that really pick up on the details we miss. Also the beginner lore is crucial for some people with how expansive the universe is. HUGE props to you for your commitment and your passion for Warhammer. I'll always support you as a creator because you seem to love what you do here, also it is cool to hear your thoughts and opinions as well! I do like a good tangent here and there. :)
Thank you for this comment. I make this stuff for you and people like you.
To remind everyone present, these aspirants are young preteen boys lol
i believe space wolves take their aspirants slightly later in life, otherwise i dont think they would be strong enough to live.
Not codex complient ....
They are still a legion, thats a bit past not codex compliment
How does their impregnable fortress the fang survive the fire season of magma and stuff? Genuine question.
The continent it is on doesn't experience on the same upheaval the rest of the planet does, so the ground is stable.
Fun fact, it was stable enough for there to be caves that the first colonist to the planet built cities in (rather than live on the unstable ocean or the deadly surface) but something happened down there that killed/corrupted everyone so they were abandoned and it is now forbidden to go there.
Basically a combination of forced evolutionary virus and Tzeentchian shenanigans messed with the original settlers in the cave system. Part of the reason why there was a Tzeentch helmet in the water scene with the wolf in the foreground. The lore is super deep on this one.
@@Gomjibar
Fenris officially coolest planet in 40k…unless there’s other cool ones. This is first to catch my interest at least.
@@Counterpoints
My first thoughts when watching the episode were that it was cheesy how athletic they were making the tribal guy….then the explanation that they’d already been dosed with gene seed…
Cavil needs to go all out with this franchise and producing whatever he’s going to produce….how cool to see a full on serious series production, without the nonsense..
@@loganross1861 I’m praying that it’s ambitious enough to be amazing and humble enough to be good. If I was going to do a Horus heresy series I would only get Peter Jackson to direct and the props people from the new Halo series. Otherwise I would do something small like Eisenhorn.
Is the large marine creature in the background part of Fenris lore or was it just added for the episode? Anyone? genuinely curious.
If you mean the large black armored one with a wolf helmet that greets the last aspirant at the end that’s a Wolf Priest, the Chaplain/Apothecary
@Counterpoints sorry my fault for not being specific and mahalo for replying, I love your channel ! But I meant water creature lol, there was a moment during which the last aspirant and his soon to be trophy were sinking and there was a large silhouette of a creature swimming in the background.
If it's a large marine creature, probably a kraken.
A prey the space wolve hunt to made weapon like monster hunter.
@@Hale_hana_noeau yeah, there’s sea serpents, kraken and all sorts of monsters in the Fenrisian ocean
@@Counterpoints known to be hunted by the southern islander fenrisen tribes (described as dark of skin and temper), the 3rd great company, the sea wolves, is known to recruit from these tribes
For Russ ! For the Allfather !
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What are those giant bat creatures? I wanna have them for my militia if possible
I like the rants
Bad ass episode
In retrospect the framing and timing was a little weird but the action and lore was solid
That is why space wolves are more dangerous.
That's tough, your not worthy enough to be eaten by a creature of fenris! It goes to eat the bear
Damn animations grew on me 😂😂
good stuff
On Fenris everybody is on Tren
I want to watch these so bad but Warhammer Plus is shut down in Canada. Even with a VPN I have to use a Canadian credit card when I pay so I get blocked there. Lame.
I tried starting a WHTV account and they refused my money and said my email address is a spam account. GW is broken
There's always been female space wolf terminator armor. It has 8 ports for feeding the blood claws.
Tnx for this
Intro video link?
Astartes 2 trailer
Why did I see a thousand sons helmet in the water unless im just being dumb
They got a cult in the caves and have invaded twice
I didn’t know lucky was a talent
Space wolves are atheist yet the Space Wolves have an all father? Is this the emperor of man?
Depends. The imperium is nothing but hypocritical in a lot of ways.
"All father" is the equivalent of the "emperor of mankind" for other space marine.
I’m sure it’s Fenrisian religion adapted for the Imperium with the Emperors divinity being held differently by different people. To consider him not a God at this point is kind of crazy.
8:35 It's even a wonder any stables humans populations could last long in that planet not to mention any fauna. There should be no life left beside the Wolves who are hiding cozily in their fortress.
9:30 So strong enough to break a stalagmit and use it as a weapon but not strong enough to just grab his sword while he dodge the bear ?
9:41 That's a male ? I thought it was the mother.
11:39 Now that's just ridiculous, no animals would make a suicidal jump into the void just to kill its hunter.
14:22 They don't even know the fauna of their own world ?
На Фенрісі немає вовків.
Hello COmment Gods
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Man, the spacewolves are the one part that i deeply dislike about 40k. Theyre so corny
They should lean more into the Viking aesthetic than the wolf aesthetic and I think it would reduce the corniness
@@Counterpoints amen... because when their stuff is more viking oriented it really looks cool. But because that isn't the case they suck so so so much I feel like. Their dreaddies look pretty cool too.
@@dougjones3305 honestly you have to head canon that stuff and look at the helmets and shoulder pads from Liber Daemonica. If you hear too many furry jokes and look at the wolf helmets too much they start to become unappealing
@@Counterpoints haha yea for sure. It's almost like that scene from ace ventura where he starts noticing all the animal heads hung throughout the room but with a furry umdertone.
Why is the animation so choppy and bad?
Yea make it look like generic anime. With people jumping 3 storys high. Just way too absurd for no reason. Dont we already have enought of this impossible anime shit. Just make the fighting choreographie nice rather than these overly dramatic and boring sequences than dont actually make sence. I hope people soon get bored of this stupidity we have had it for 30 years now and I just need something more.
Dont get me wrong I love warhammer but Im just tired of how they make everything the same always.
I hate fantasy vikings, space wolves the most. I really hope the thousand sons will achieve their revenge against them and blow up fenris.
Heresy purge the heretic.
Damn💀
Man could this animation be any worse? Its so lazy how they only animate certain parts of cells and super low fps. Ugh.