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- After 61 plays of the Gloomhaven base game, do I still rate it 10/10 and rank it as my #1 game of all time?
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Good insights into the game and a good video. I will mention what others have brought up, and that is Gloomhaven helper. That app does so much work and makes everything run along at a great pace. I Also recommend the Gloomhaven Campaign Tracker app. It keeps track of the scenarios for you neatly, as well as the city and road event decks, items unlocked from prosperity, donations, characters, reputations, basically anything you'd ever want tracked. Those 2 apps make the game so much smoother and I will be grabbing their counterparts for Frosthaven as soon as they're/it's released.
Thanks so much for the kind words and the very helpful recommendations!
Helper has been discontinued (rights issues/drama, feel free to google).
I think you can still look up some slightly "yo-ho" downloads. I've started using Gloomhaven Full Stack, mainly to simulate monster and attack decks. But it can handle full campaign tracking.
Official Frosthaven app exists. But it costs money and is still very much work-in-progress. I'll look into it when Frosthaven gets a retail release.
Just wanted to say I'm so sorry for your loss and hope you are doing okay especially during all these lockdowns as that has to intensify PTSD. Stay strong and know this too will pass!
Thank you so much for the kind words, Adam! It means a lot to me!
My gf, her roommate and I all play GH together and I must say that there are some things that you can do to mitigate the setup/teardown time. Doesn't matter much if you've finished but to anyone reading this, take note. Stop by hobby lobby or michaels or whatever craft store you have and get some plastic organizers to use for monsters and terrain. Secondly, get the gloomhaven helpler app on a tablet or phone to be dedicated to use during a scenario. We went from 20 minutes of setup to maybe 5 during a scenario. Not having to find the monster sleeves, condition tokens, monster decks, etc saves an incredible amount of time.
Great advice! Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Or try the Steam version where setup, teardown time are zero and storage is not an issue. :)
oh man! so sorry for your loss. I appreciate the review, this is a game I've wanted to get into. Thank you for being transparent on your struggles, that takes a lot of strength.
Thank you SO much for your very kind and encouraging words, Josh!
I'm sorry for your loss (more than a year ago). Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Gloomhaven. For now I've just started Jaws of the Lion. See where it gets me...
Thanks, Danny. That's a great place to start - I hope you enjoy the game as much as I have!
Your houserule section was very good, thanks for the video!
I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
Very sorry for your loss. Keep strong brother, you've got this!
Thank you for this really informative video. Love all the different ideas and tips. Keep up the good production quality.
Thanks so much for your encouragement, Daniel - it means a lot to me!
The last 1-2 min...(from 19:15) wow.. i didn't thought how hard can be to create this good quality video, in that noisy environment. Respect / thank you for your effort!
I appreciate you saying so, and thanks for watching! :)
I can’t imagine having to go through GH solo. But I do admire the fact that the game has been actually produced. And sorry for your loss.
Thank you! ❤
Thank you Josh for giving a very personal and transparent review! I loved the way you summarized the whole GH experience. Hang in there bro and I'm pretty sure everything will be alright. Stay safe and God bless!
Thanks so much for the kind words - they are very much appreciated!
Oh, my god. This is the first video I've seen from you, but my heart is broken for you, for your wife and friend. I can't imagine how hard it is for you to talk about Gloomhaven or even just to look at the box. Accept my deepest condolences. I am sure, that your adventure is not finished and sometime later on the road you will continue with them in Heaven. Keep strong and never let yourself down. I am sure you had a wonderfull time playing together and I am sure they are also greatful for that too. I will always remember your story when I eventually start playing Gloomhaven, and remind myself to appreciate the time we have left with our loved ones. I am sure you all did! Thanks for sharing your story. And always remember that not only you are important to your friends and family, but random strangers on the internet love you too!
Wow, this comment has made me very emotional! I don't even know what to say, but thank you for all your kind words, which have done their part to give me just a little bit more healing. (I have pinned this comment to provide an example of how a TH-cam comment can provide such positivity.)
I am sorry for your loss. Stay strong and thank you for very honest review.
Thanks for the very nice message, Marian!
Amazing you include footage at the end. Keep rolling, u are not alone in this world
Thanks Jose, I appreciate that a lot!
Hey man, stumbled upon your content yesterday. You left a strong impression on me. I am sorry to hear about your situation, time is the only thing that heals besides support. Loved this and how transparent you are
Thanks so much! I'm very touched to hear that!
Just started Gloomhaven a few days ago- it has been a really incredible experience and I’ve been obsessed with watching videos about it after any given game.
I’m just here to be an echo of what “Ayy Mate” said.
I,too, appreciate your transparency, it takes a lot of courage to be “weak” by “societal standards”.
It was very brave of you to share your feelings about what had happened to you and I’m happy to hear you have something to see as a part of their time spent with you and not just a reminder of something you have lost.
Keep your chin up- they would want you to do that.
I’ve been in a PTSD/depressive state for nearly a decade and I’m not ready to be as courageous as you are. It’s commendable.
I respect you for sharing your feelings, then following up with a blooper reel.
I hope to be like you some day.
I am very sorry for your loss. Great review. You got a sub!
Thank you so much - I appreciate that!
Subscriber earned pal. Very sorry about your struggle, I wish you the best
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!
awesome review. I just recently bought the actual board game after playing several scenarios on Tabletop Simulator. The Steam version (early access) is very good as well. Your sad news brought a tear to my eyes as it was so heart-felt. Sorry for your loss.
Thank you, Johnny. It's nice to hear that the Steam version is looking very good.
20:03 Okay, that one made me laugh out loud. Thanks a lot for taking the time to make this video! I'm glad that you decided to share your experience wiht GH with us.
My pleasure! I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment!
Have a Bless and Strengthen for your life! Keep on.
Thank you, Niko!
Thanks a ton for ideas on how to make the game more enjoyable if there are aspects of it you personally find frustrating. I'm getting Gloomhaven for Christmas this year and to see how much you love this game makes me confident in asking for it! Might be a struggle teaching my brothers how to play but that's why I watch videos like yours to get a better understanding of what to expect. It's incredibly inspiring how much pain you must of went through yet still make content for other to enjoy and find ways to entertain yourself as well. Thanks again and I wish you the best!
Thanks for the very kind words! That's exciting that you'll be getting Gloomhaven - I hope you'll enjoy it as much as I have!
Thanks for your review and sorry for your loss.
I appreciate that, Brian!
Great video review, Josh. Thanks.
Thanks, Paul!
God Bless You and may you stay strong. All the best.
Thank you, Sean.
Great video, great channel. Looking forward to more.
Thanks so much, Mitch!
I got Gloomhaven for Xmas this last year and just finally read the rule book and have watched a few videos. Saw your video and was curious what someone who’s played this much of the game thought! Thanks for the insight, and nice History of Benalia banner in the back as well!
Thanks, Ryan - I'm so glad you found me! :) I hope that Gloomhaven gives you as much enjoyment as it has given me over the past couple of years!
Hi Josh! I was so saddened by the end of your video. I wish you all the best in New year, may it be better than the last one.
Hi Sanja! Your kind words mean the world to me - thank you so much for taking the time to comment!
Loved the video, and I have to say the part at the end... I'm so sorry to hear what you're going through. I've recently got into playing Gloomhaven on Tabletop Simulator and have found it fantastic fun. It takes a lot of the setup and teardown and cuts it to next to nothing. If you ever decide you would want to try it I would be more than happy to gift you a copy on Steam and play through Forgotten Circles with you!
Thanks for the great content!
Wow, Dillon, I'm absolutely floored by your kind words and your generous offer! I'm not sure how I'd want to approach the game if I were to pick it up again, but If at some point I decide to go the digital route I'll definitely reply here to let you know. Thank you!
@@joshyaks you got it! Take care and have fun man!!
New here. You're a good painter dude! I can't believe how much you've played it's awesome. Currently on my first campaign for JotL. Really fun!
Thanks, Kevin! At some point I'll probably start working through Jaws of the Lion with my kids.
@@joshyaks that's so amazing, enjoy man. All THE best!
@@floodkevin4716 Same to you! :)
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Hmm, interesting
Well done mate. Great video. I just got it today
Thank you! I hope you enjoy the game as much as I have!
Thanks for a great review!
I recently bought Gloomhaven: Jaws of the lion, but I have not yet been able to try it out. (It is hard to find the time and the company needed)
But I belive it is a really great game and a good introduction to Gloomhaven. Jaws of the lion is a lot cheeper and also a lot easier to manage I belive, but I will get the big game asap.
And soon there will also be a Frosthaven.. So many hours of gameplay ahead! 😉👍
So sorry to here about your loss!
Hang in there bro, I wish you all the best! 👊
Thanks so much for the kind words, Peter! My young boys have been watching us play a lot of Gloomhaven over the past couple of years and have frequently asked about trying it. Jaws of the Lion might be the perfect way for them to ease into the game with me when they're just a little bit older.
Great advice on the changes! This game is such a grind; I had to change so much to enjoy this game. I have similar PTSD and wife sep issues; after several yrs of depression I quit drinking and started working out. Traumatic Release Exercises made a huge difference getting rid of stored physical stress that led to fight or flight mental shate. The last exercise where you lift your knees and shake is the only real TRE exercise you need after a while ... I stopped having episodes within a month. Got TRE for free from the Army, so easy to look up I think. Still lonely and hate playing Gloomhaven alone. Anyway, good luck and keep playing.
Thanks! I'm glad you found a way to enjoy it!
It seems great, haven't beat it but tried the multiple ways and it's all fun.
All those d12's LOL I could imagine someone bumping the table and they all go rolling around LOL But I want that furniture set
An earthquake would certainly change everyone's health - some even for the better! :D
We started playing Gloomhaven maybe a half a year ago, with our life in mind we have time to play one time each week 3-4 hour. This will conclude to around one scenario per week, so what you said about the money problem we have to. We don't play with that you can replay a scenario if we have complete it. If we forget, or are force to leave, a chest unopen and leave the money on the ground they are gone for ever in that playthrough. We never had so much money that one could upgrade a card, maybe a level 1 card and on top a level 2. But the higher card is so stupid overprices for the game style we are playing. One card I was interesting in level up would cost me around 375 gold, and that is just a stupid amount of money.
Also one got a personal goal / mission that they should find an axe and with it defeat monster. And when we can't replay scenarios we did never find it. After a while we gave up on that and the player in question got to retire anyway, we just made up a mission for that player to complete.
Controlling the summons was also a problem for us, maybe not when there were monster on the board, but when there was no monster on the board they just stood still on there spot and did nothing. They could at least had the player that summoned them as there target for the move action.
Then there are a few things that could have been explained better in the manual, that we were reading wrong and after a couple of month got right. But that it's natural for a new board game.
Otherwise we love it, hard to think that we would play it again though. It's one of the longer board game I have played for a long time. Legend of Andor, Arkham Horror, etc can't even come close, though an Arkam Horror campaign can be pretty long with the right circumstances. Love that no one need to be a GM, the cards make every character feel unique with there own playstyle. Went from an all out damage dealer to a full support, and needed to change my tactics quite much. This group I'm playing in would play Gloomhaven a second time I think, but I'm sure I would love to learn out this board game, with maybe a few house rules for ease of access, to a new group.
What I think that strived us to play more, is that we unlock new character. More so then the story, that was as you said pretty weak and somewhat confusing. It's a great system with personal mission, and personal goal in scenarios to great a sense of drama in the group. But then again, we were more in for completing the scenario then our personal goal.
Gloomhaven have set a new standard to these kind of games, and I was hopeing that Fantasy Flights "Descent: Legends of the Dark" would follow this kind of play instead of going for the style they had in the older games. But I have heard, and seen, that it's not the case. It's a shame, would love to have more game who played out like Gloomhaven.
We still have the expansion, Forgotten Circles, to sink our teeth into, and the Jaws of the Lion prologue. So we may have a half a year until we complete it. Myself just unlocked the music note character yesterday so I hope I have a couple of great adventure a head of me with that character.
Loved the video and bloopers in the end :)
Thank you for taking the time to share your experiences, Patrik - I really enjoyed hearing your perspectives! It sounds like you and I are on the same page regarding both our criticisms and praise of this great game. I think my kids are almost old enough to try Jaws of the Lion with them, so I'm looking forward to eventually getting that to the table. I hope you have many more happy hours playing the expansions!
With the application of some smart solutions and good inserts our set up time is around 8-10 minutes.
Nice!
i just finished jaws of the lion solo and was wondering whether to try to get frosthaven or gloomhaven so i found your honest review helpful and i like the house rules. you're right games should be enjoyable. sorry for your loss. i hope you are doing well.
Thanks so much for your kind words! I hope I'll be able to get into Jaws of the Lion with my kids sometime in the not-too-distant future.
God bless you brother.
Cheers, my friend.
Definitely could use an organizer if you were spending so much time setting up and tearing down... but I must admit it is time consuming.
A great way to organize the game is using Plano fishing tackle boxes. Search for "gloomhaven YASS" on google and check it out. It's not expensive and saves searching through all the bits. I used that and an accordion folder from my kids discarded school supplies to organize the map tiles alphabetically. My wife and I can setup in about 5 minutes.
@@DarkBishop342 Thanks for the recommendation!
I love your approach, just enjoying a game, making it bit easier, just to appreciate the time spent on it with friends or family. In my opinion, its the most important think about boardgames. If i would be a game designer, u would say: go for houserules! Make my game better for you. Great to see, that more poeple think that way.
Thanks so much for your kind words! I'm glad someone can relate to my approach to this game (and gaming in general)!
A file folder for the map tiles is a great help for speeding up setup.
Great tip - thanks!
"we allowed summons to be controlled by the summoner."
THANK YOU! That was the first thing I did in the game. It makes no sense whatsoever to me that the player can't control the summon. It's especially aggravating with "two minis" and "circles."
Absolutely! I'm glad you agree with me on that, Tim!
I highly suggest picking up a game or two with new people, even at a game store... once we can go out and actually do that. gloomhaven helper makes set up and tear down way way easier and the game just feels smooth once you use it.
Great suggestions - thanks, Scott!
Thank you for your video to inspire me and my wife to play Gloomhaven together. I can’t imagine how it feels to experience such an amazing adventure and then to lose your life partner! That said, I divorced my wife of 20 years and even though I knew it was necessary, the loss was real. Hang in there, brother. Get a dog (or a cat as I did) to comfort you during the hard times and you will meet someone amazing, if not now, then after this Covid crap is over. Your video made me cry at the end. You are a special person. You are not alone and even though it doesn’t feel that way at times (trust me, I’ve been there), there are people that care. I met my new wife who is so wonderful and beyond all my wildest expectations. You will meet your new love too, my friend.
Wow, Brent, I'm absolutely floored by your kind response! Thank you for this! Pets are out of the picture due to allergies, but I'm happy to hear that you came out the other side doing so well after what you went through.
Our main house rule has been that all remaining gold and only gold is considered "picked up". If you loot one you get the level bonus. If it is "picked up" on "your way out of the cave/dungeon/whatever", it is only ever worth 1. We have been starting our retired characters right at level one no matter what. It really is fun leveling a new person and getting to know them.
Picking up the remaining gold makes good thematic sense, too!
@@joshyaks we don’t “pick up” chests though. Only seems fair. We also house ruled if you fill all of your battle goal check marks, you can either opt to not do them anymore or if you complete them, you get 5g per check mark.
The Steam digital version is getting very close to releasing the full game.
It’s pretty cool as it is now.
Just found this gem and I hope you are doing well.
That's exciting to hear about the Steam version! I hope you get as much enjoyment out of this game as I did!
It will be free. Thursday
At 12:25, my I was like "don't say summons, don't say summons, don't you dare say summons!" xD
Oh no!! :D Yeah, I went there! Game balance be damned...
I understand why people would come up with this houserule, but as someone who was frustrated with their summons' behavior and as someone who learnt to plan and play around it, I must say: it feels way more rewarding playing without the houserule.
And also, even if sometimes things don't work out the way you thought: That's when great stories are being born xD
@@Zwerggoldhamster exactly. You have to be strategic and summon them behind you, use your tank to keep them alive etc.
Honestly i think they missed out learning how to play the game right, since they stayed on easy where you can just stand in front and trade shots with enemies whereas harder difficulties you need to understand initiative and movement etc. They missed a lot of the tactical depth.
Thanks for explaining your houserules Josh, funnily enough i did pretty much the same, just thought at the end of the day it had to bend to my will otherwise i wouldnt play it, ONLY thing i didnt agree was your 10/10 for the game, its a 9, a SOLID 9 but its no WOTR, now theres a 10
Well, I'm in agreement that War of the Ring also deserves a 10!
ok man you made me shed a tear the moment you mentioned your wife
Aw, thanks friend!
The setup time with Gloomhaven is only rivaled by my experience with Kingdom Death lol. Definitely prefer Jaws of the Lion now for the smaller scale and scenario book just for ease of play.
I'm very much looking forward to getting into Jaws of the Lion with my kids when they're just about a year or so older!
@@joshyaks Sounds like fun! I know you said you unfortunately lost your gaming group so I was wondering if you ever tried playing things over tabletop sim to fill the void. Obviously it's not the same as playing irl, but it can be fun in quarantine times. Gloomhaven has a really faithful standalone video game adaptation too.
I always see the "rules" as more of a guide. If I complete a game without house rules it is a bonus challenge
Whatever provides the most fun is what works for me!
I think it only takes me about 10 minutes to set up, and 5 minutes to tear down. If you get everything nice and organized, it's not that hard.
This is what I came to say. I can't imagine how you could spend 30--45 minutes setting up and taking down the game. No more than 10 minutes for us. Usually closer to 5.
Sorry for your loss.
You could try a solo playthrough of Jaws of the Lion using a great version on Tabletop Simulator. The scenario setup, character sheets and monster big cards and their AI decks are all auto setup for each scenario. Setup and tear down take literally 2 minutes total.
Thank you for the kind words and the recommendation!
I know setting up and tearing down the actual stages themselves is a big part of that setup time issue. Do you think that the new scenario booklet they're apparently working on to work like Jaws of the Lion's would make a significant difference?
I imagine it would make setup and tear down significantly easier and faster, but I haven't actually tried Jaws of the Lion yet.
@@joshyaks I only just got it over the weekend and haven't gotten a chance to play, but looking through it and seeing some other videos, the in-book play grid idea with rule reminders and the like printed right in there seems pretty ingenious. It even tells you exactly what enemies to place where, with what bases.
Never ever take the game down. Problem solved :)
One problem solved and a new one created! ;)
Easymode and extra coins ? We play it in hard mode and only houserule is that we can have only 1 stamina potion. We buy enchantments and gear all the time. Wonder if there was something you missed ?
Hey Joshy, did u ever end up playing forgotten circles? Would like to hear your thoughts!
Shortly before I lost my gaming group I did pick up Forgotten Circles, and we managed to play through the first couple of scenarios before everything fell apart on me. The new Aesther Diviner is a very cool character, although we had only just begun to explore her potential. I really liked the way that parts of a scenario were scattered throughout different pages of the scenario book, because even though it made it slightly more fiddly to play through a scenario, it was fun to not have any idea what was behind a closed door! Over all, anybody who enjoyed the Gloomhaven base game would definitely enjoy the Forgotten Circles expansion. (I also picked up Jaws of the Lion to try with my kids when they're a year or two older, but I have to wait patiently for a while before I can get into that one!)
@@joshyaks awesome! I just started gloomhaven solo last night since I got no one who's keen to play. Might pick up the expansion then (if I enjoy my time with gloomhaven)
House rules all the way! we did a house rule that each character started with an extra 500 gold so we could get all those enhancement stickers and all those cool items. We too played on easy and doubled the gold as well. It was super fun to do mega damage and DESTROY all the baddies!! cheers brotha
YES!! Finally, somebody who isn't angry with me for playing the game the way I enjoy playing it! :) I'm glad you've found a way to get the most enjoyment out of Gloomhaven too, Todd!
To each his own, but that would remove all the fun for me. Looting gold becomes pointless if you start with an extra 500 right of the bat. You don't progressively become better, you start off as the best version of yourself and have nothing to look forward to. Starting w so much gold means you can get very expensive enhancement ( say adding curse on a huge AOE) and the rest of the scenario is basically cakewalk. No strategy needed whatsoever
I want to play with you. Thanks for your videos.
That's so nice! Thanks for watching!
The puzzles you’re talking about are solvable in the base game. But there’s a few errors in the game which leads to basically needing to seek online help to really get it down. There’s only one code that carries over.
Oh, that's interesting!
Did you ever try the gloomhaven helper app?
No, I never did try that.
Hey my man, Check out Tabletop Simulator as well... there is a really good mod on there for Gloomhaven that automates a lot of stuff. I'd be down to play it.
That's a nice offer, but after giving online board gaming a go for a while on Yucata, I never could get into it.
@@joshyaks Fair enough, if you change your mind let me know...
Sorry to say but how do you spend 45 minutes on setup
Hey man, first time seeing one of your vids, Ive been playing Gloomhaven going on 2 years now and have Frosthaven on the way as a backer on Kickstarter. If you wanna send a private message telling me what part of Ontario you're from maybe you can join up with us.
It's very nice of you to put that offer out there! I'm in the Tri-City area (Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge). How about you?
@@joshyaks we're east of you in the GTA Georgetown, just past Milton
@@tyrantgamingon6971 Not terribly far! Once this whole pandemic is behind us, we should meet up over a gaming table (even if it's not for Gloomhaven specifically).
@@joshyaks for sure! Frosthaven is apparently coming in March.
Not too far at all, we have a guy that comes from St.Catherines to play.
We'll be in touch
I just can’t decide if I should get Gloomhaven. I wanted it for a long time it’s just that my husband doesn’t like long set up times.
I suppose you could get around that issue by trying out the early access digital version on Steam.
Hi Natalie! With apps like Gloomhaven Helper, you would find the game very manageable to set up and tear down.
If you have free space at home, I really encourage you to pick up Gloomhaven and prepare the next scenario right after you finish one, that way you just have to sit and play (and if you don't put everything back into the box, it's fine!). A good insert saves you tones of time, though
Natalie. They have released "Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion" which is like an intro to Gloomhaven. It is a much easier learning experience and a more streamlined experience. I highly recommend it for new players thinking about getting into Gloomhaven.
Sorry Natalie one more thing: if you do decide to try Jaws of the Lion there is one MAJOR thing that will make your experience better. For some crazy reason they still use those idiotic damage tracking cardboard tokens. Get you some D12 like Josh has in the video above for tracking monster health. My party likes to count down the damage instead of count up. Hope this helps.
I would just say i think if you didnt ease the game to such a degree that you did, you will find you use more time acually playing the game compared to setup, and cleanup. Sounds like you set up and cleaned it up alone though? we use arround 10 minish cleaning up, with everyone helping. We also use two different apps wich does speed it up alot
Yeah, I do it all on my own. I'm sure it would be significantly quicker with multiple people helping.
How you missed a boss fight that requires three other boss fights as the climatic battle against a character who shares a name with the title of the game as the ending of campaign. That’s on you. Not Isaac.
An hour to set up and an hour to break down is way more than it actually takes. More like 15-20 minutes each
So you played in super easy mode . Something i would never do . I always try to play in hard . At the very least i play in normal difficulty and always by the rules .
I'm glad you found a way to play the game that you enjoy!
House Rules always trump box rules .. historically speaking many box rules are ..Broken .. and need house tweaking to even be workable .. being a solo player doesn't make that process any easier ( you could think it would) but if your going to tweak rules too much it can become a slippery slope, having more brains in on the decisions would be a huge help, I decided just get out a die and roll it ... even I win.. odd I loose and leave the game in the box... Not Gloomhaven, l did play 10ish scenarios solo , and kind of realized how much more fun it would be playing with other humans and lost interest in solo play . My pick for all time favorite game is and has been the original Warhammer Quest .. which is similar in many ways to Gloomhaven .. that game still has a huge following , that it throughly deserves ..if I had folks to play with I might "borrow" tiles and pieces from Gloomhaven to use for Warhammer Quest....nicely presented subjective over view of a awesome effort by one man to bring a massive board game to the table .having a permanent spot reserved for Gloomhaven would cut way down on set up tear down time , but few folks have or are willing to dedicate a table to a ..game .. Thank Josh that was 20 minutes of time I'm not requesting a refund for 😉✌️
Warhammer Quest is 25 years old, yet still has a very high rating on BoardGameGeek!
Wow, very few people finished Gloomhaven even by now, you rock. Sorry I am not good with english language subtilities. What means you lost your wife and friend. I am sorry for you. They died?
Thank you for commenting even though English isn't your first language (I admire people who can speak multiple languages)! About 8 months ago my wife left me, and when she did my 2 best friends also decided to cease contact with me. These happened to also be my board gaming friends, so I no longer have anyone other than my children to play games with.
Your house rules really inspired me to create a few of my own: enhancements are way too slow!
I'm still working on the spreadsheet with all of them, but please let me know if you want to see them. I'll share the link once I'm finished tomorrow.
As it stands, I have:
1) percentage discount on enhancements if they're on loss effects (full cost if repeatable)
2) gold vouchers every time you reach a level that is below the prosperity minimum (incentivizing that low level play!)
3) elites drop X + 2 gold tokens
4) any loss enhancement doesn't count towards your class maximum
5) draw 3 battle goals, choose 1 for checkmark, 1 for a bonus 5 gold, and then ditch the 3rd. Gives you a little extra income for an increased challenge of 2 goals
6) also made a house rule where the party adds their remaining cards at end of scenario together, then they can spent 1 to move 2 squares from the center of the room. When the party chooses, they can use remaining number of cards to perform loot X from that hex. And this is shared between the party.
7) loot in general is semi-shared. Players keep half, rounded down, of whatever they personally loot. Rest goes to party and is then redistributed equally.
And I have a whole separate set of houserules for permadeath which let's you keep fighting after you're in the brink of death, and even lets come back with disabilities and continue playing. Also if your party wipes, you're all captured and need to be rescued by new characters :D
Just wanted to thank you for the inspiration, and I hope you're doing better now after some time has passed. I think the reason it hurts the most to think of the memories of gloomhaven so fondly is BECAUSE it's so good, and so cooperative, and novel. You bond over how good the damn thing is, so it really just isn't the same without the people you used to play it with. Part of it is the game. And part of it is how good the game is at bringing people together.
I feel like that was the vibe you were giving off when you said it still is a 10 for you. And how that 10 just cannot be touched or devalued.
Very nice! House rules are all about maximizing the amount of enjoyment you and your fellow players get out of a game, so definitely do what makes you happy!
Thanks for the review! Keep ya head up man and buy bitcoin! Peace and love
Sending peace and love right back at ya!
Well I don't think solo is that great. Games are best with a friend, so go find someone to play with, and I hope you are doing better.
Thank you - I agree!
We never upgraded any cards. One reason being the cost, but also the hassle with stickers.
We loved stickering things - we were all about the Legacy aspect of the game!
No conclusion, that's very disappointing. I'd not buy this game just after learning that so thanks. I'll stick to JotL
I hope you're enjoying Jaws of the Lion as much as I've enjoyed the base game!
No sorry you did not play Gloomhaven you could have only readed the scenarios in the order you would have do them. Playing on easy more money free mone half the upgrade cost ... wtf do you know what a curse updgrade on an aoe attack does???