The front lower control arms are easy.After installing your lift kit Install the wheels and put the jeep on the ground on its own weight. First remove the old control arm on one side only. Install the new control arm to the frame first then have someone roll the wheel forward or backwards until you align the bolt. Then repeat on the next side. I used this method to install my lower drop bracket. Remember one side at a time.
Thank you! Make sure you install the front lower control arms with neither front coil installed! I did that wrong which made it much more difficult. Good luck!
Thanks for the video. Showed me what to expect . Took me 5 and a half hours to install in my gravel driveway. Oddly enough, the lower control arms werent too bad , they lined up pretty good
Full on mechanic, clothes and all! Was so relieved near the end when you mentioned a tire upgrade.those summer treads just didn’t seem right. I have no doubt the two of you will be throwing a bit of mud before long. Appreciate the post!
@@offroadhub.official ya know there is a bond between off Roader’s but when ya throw in the earned mechanic outfit then ya upgrade to a must have best bud! Lol
Good to see I don't need to bother with the dealership installing it, thanks for the vid. Rubicon is built as of yesterday, just trying to learn this and a couple other things and I'll be ready to start tearing in when it arrives
I just installed the Mopar lift w/ bilstein reservoir shocks on my 22 diesel JLU. Both front springs are bowing inward. Touching the frame. Something is either wrong with the spring or the amazing directions from Mopar … even installed an adjustable track bar. Same shit
Thinking about doing this lift for my Willys JT with the 3.6L gas engine. The part number says it’s for a 3.0L diesel. I’ve heard this is also the new updated part number of the “AB” version. Is his gladiator a diesel or gas? Great video btw.
I had a Gladiator Rubicon for a year. I really liked. Unfortunately with all the COVID and California’s ridiculous registration renewal fees and weight fees. I ended up trading it in on a car. I did install the Mopar lift kit on the truck. For me I thought the front was a little bit stiffer than stock in the front and the rear was a little soft for on road use. The rear seamed to have floaty feel. But off road it did well.
After installing the lift and driving the Glad to work (20+ miles) I received an service electronic stability control message on the dash, then a special NEW and separate check engine light just for the ESC! A little research said it was common for JL and JT that had a lift installed, and this caused the steering wheel to be slightly off center. In fact the steering wheel being off center was so slight I didn't notice it at all. Driving home the error had cleared and didn't come back on but I noticed the steering wheel off center. I adjusted the drag link and now the steering wheel is very close to center. Waiting for the next code!
Interesting. After this installation there have never been any lights or codes and the steering wheel is straight. An alignment is always a good idea after installing a lift. If nothing else, to verify that things are correct.
@@offroadhub.official A friend of mine has a 2020 JT. He did the 2" Mopar then went back and added a 3/4" spacer on the front. I skipped doing 2 steps and did it all in 1 step. Added the lift and 3/4 spacer at the same time. I'm thinking this may be why the steering wheel was just far enough out to throw the code, especially after reading your response.
Front caster was not out of spec. Also, this is a Mopar kit. If it made the front axle un-centered it would cause problems, which Chrysler would then have to resolve under warranty. So no, this kit does not cause any issues with the axle being un-centered. 👍
@@offroadhub.official thanks. I found an open box one locally and I am considering installing it. Originally was wanting Clayton overland and king shocks. But of course that is 6k vs 1500. I do some off roading but going to 35s and and probably 4.56 gearing.
Great video...super detailed. I'm handy but after I saw your struggle with the lower arms I got discouraged 😞...lol. you mentioned using your RTV and I don't have one 😁. All kidding a side...you made it look easy but it seems it could turned into a big project....thanks for the video...looks great and very informative 👍. Thanks
Thanks Ken for sharing this detailed and informative video with us! I really enjoyed it! Quick question: How is it not necessary to use adjustable track bars to recenter both the front and back axles?? (the track bar rotates around a fixed point, so it should be adjustable to recenter the axles...) Thanks!!
That's a good question. I have to defer to FCA on that one. They sell this kit, which maintains your factory warranty, without an adjustable track bar. So the difference that it makes to the axles being centered must be negligible.
It's totally straight. It can't be crooked with the control arms installed, because they aren't adjustable. The panhard want touched, so it is also still centered. 👍
Seems like on every forum someone is always giving warnings about extra stuff you need to put on with this or...something something. Is this kit (plus an alignment) really all you need to put some 35s on?
@@eli8375 i never got a lift because my Overland's engine gave out after 5 months of having. After 2.5 months of sitting in the shop with no fix, I decided to just trade it in for a Mojave.
@@KnightsGarage I'm basing that on what Mopar sells in their complete kit, engineered by FCA engineers to work with the Gladiator. And now that it's been a very long time since the install, I can report that there have been zero problems or adverse effects since this lift was installed. Also having years of observational experience as a Chrysler technician, I promise that you do not need adjustable track bars with this lift.
@@KnightsGarage you can do some math to figure out how much it will shift the axle over. Too hot to go out and measure right now but I’ll give you an example. If the track bar drops 6” from frame and the axle mount is 40” away parallel to the ground then the bar will be 40.5” long. Drop that 2” and the track bar will shift in 0.35”. It’s not exact cause I am assuming the geometry but it’s not going to be much more or less my friend. Of course a longer bar will have less and a shorter bar relative to my guesstimate will have more. . For sticklers it matters, but as already pointed out, for vehicle performance and safety it is validated by Jeep engineers so you can rest assured that it will have no issues. . Honestly, I’ve seen more issues with adjustable track bars not being centered.
@@1blkout I tried that but it won’t tighten all the way almost like the nut is too small for the bolt but that can’t be the case. Not sure what happened but the washer removed from the sway bar link and I ordered a new one.
@@salientviews I replied to you prior to installing my lift. I installed my lift yesterday and I had the same issue. I discovered that the original nut that you are supposed to reuse is a fine thread (metric). The replacement link is a course thread (metric). You will need a replacement course thread nut for the new sway bar links, that is what I need to do. I am heading to the dealer this morning to get course thread ( metric) nuts. Hope that helps! Edit: The two new metric nuts that you need are Mopar p/n 6512602AA which are 12mm x 1.75mm.
I noticed you state to make sure the front upper coil pad nubs to seat back in the upper tower. This is on the driver side what about the passenger side? Does it also have the ae nubs?
@@offroadhub.official thanks as I am trying to resolve an issue with my lift install, and I was told the nubs is only the driver side tower. A silly question; If they are not installed with the nubs sticking out the tower would they cause the top coil to bow or shift out of center?
@@khalilismyname if you just stuff it up there with crushed nubs it'll be harder to install. If you don't see them then they must not be there. I'm not 100% sure I know exactly what the issue is.
Question I'm getting ready to get a Mopar 2" lift on my 2021 Gladiator Rubicon, and I was thinking on also putting a 3/4" front leveling kit, someone told me that the leveling kits will mess up your front end is that true?
@@offroadhub.official I was told that the spacer will mess up your geometry a little and an adjustable track bar was suggested. I don't want to do this twice, so I ordered a Yeti adjustable track bar to go with my Teraflex 1" front spacer. Lift arrives in 2-3 weeks and I will let you know how it goes. There was a recall on 2020 Gladiators for the aluminum steering box. If your BIL didn't do the recall a steering stabilizer might be in order. Nice video.
Im waiting for my lift kit to be delivered and im planning on installing it myself, it will be my first DIY project on my jeep so I'm looking to buy tools and all the necessary equipment and I have a question, what rating or lifting capacity/height would you recommend me on the floor jack and jack stands for a job like this? Thanks and your video is very helpful, I'll be using it while working on my JT (along side with the instructions obviously LOL)
I used a 3 ton floor jack and 6 ton jack stands. 6 ton stands are overkill, but they are taller which is why I like them. Definitely follow the instructions, they are actually very well done. I didn't follow the instructions perfectly and made the job harder... Install the front lower control arms without either front coil installed! Thanks for watching, glad you liked it!
@@trail_tracker the part number of the lift I installed is shown at 1:00. I would just assume the Rubicon would use a different lift since the Rubicon is already lifted from the factory.
@@offroadhub.official the kit you got is for all gladiators. They say it’s a 2 inch lift because if you have a rubicon it will end up lifting it around 2 inches. If you have a sport,overland or Willys you will end up around 3-3.5 higher since they have suspensions that are 1 inch lower then a rubicon from the factory. I’m pretty sure I’m correct about this...been doing research all day lol
Sway bar links don't really take a beating. The maximum amount of stress they take is only to a set amount, so they don't need to be extremely over built.
If your Gladiator is a non-Rubicon, this lift will come out to a 3-4 inch lift. It would be a 2 inch lift for a Rubicon, from what I have come to understand.
Not only have I heard of an air ratchet... I've used them extensively. But, they don't work very well without an air compressor. This was in my brother in law's garage, not a shop.
In January of 2024 this lift is $1899, that’s $400 more than you guys paid 3 years ago. Since the fed told us inflation was transitory I’m sure it will come down
The front lower control arms are easy.After installing your lift kit Install the wheels and put the jeep on the ground on its own weight. First remove the old control arm on one side only. Install the new control arm to the frame first then have someone roll the wheel forward or backwards until you align the bolt. Then repeat on the next side. I used this method to install my lower drop bracket. Remember one side at a time.
Thank You For This!!!
I’ve watched other MOPAR 2” Gladiator Lifts and yours was the easiest to follow. I just might do this myself.
Thank you! Make sure you install the front lower control arms with neither front coil installed! I did that wrong which made it much more difficult. Good luck!
Thanks for the video. Showed me what to expect . Took me 5 and a half hours to install in my gravel driveway. Oddly enough, the lower control arms werent too bad , they lined up pretty good
Full on mechanic, clothes and all! Was so relieved near the end when you mentioned a tire upgrade.those summer treads just didn’t seem right.
I have no doubt the two of you will be throwing a bit of mud before long. Appreciate the post!
Well that is what I did for years, so I have the outfit to match. 😉
@@offroadhub.official ya know there is a bond between off Roader’s but when ya throw in the earned mechanic outfit then ya upgrade to a must have best bud! Lol
@@jeytex3161 😄😄 it's good to know how to fix things...
The 2" in the mopar lift kit does not refer to 2" of lift it's referring to the 2" fox shock tube used.
They're 2.5" shocks.
ordered my Mopar lift yesterday, 2/9/22 for my 21 Gladiator Rubicon. Thanks for this video!
Awesome! Enjoy!
Good to see I don't need to bother with the dealership installing it, thanks for the vid. Rubicon is built as of yesterday, just trying to learn this and a couple other things and I'll be ready to start tearing in when it arrives
Awesome! Yeah it's not too difficult. Thanks for watching!
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The Gladiator is a great vehicle! I'm glad Jeep is still producing vehicles that nobody else will.
I just installed the Mopar lift w/ bilstein reservoir shocks on my 22 diesel JLU. Both front springs are bowing inward. Touching the frame. Something is either wrong with the spring or the amazing directions from Mopar … even installed an adjustable track bar. Same shit
Another offroad worthy vehicle in the family! Time to go rip off all the plastic...
All in good time...
Thinking about doing this lift for my Willys JT with the 3.6L gas engine. The part number says it’s for a 3.0L diesel. I’ve heard this is also the new updated part number of the “AB” version. Is his gladiator a diesel or gas? Great video btw.
I had a Gladiator Rubicon for a year. I really liked. Unfortunately with all the COVID and California’s ridiculous registration renewal fees and weight fees. I ended up trading it in on a car. I did install the Mopar lift kit on the truck. For me I thought the front was a little bit stiffer than stock in the front and the rear was a little soft for on road use. The rear seamed to have floaty feel. But off road it did well.
Sorry to hear you had to get rid of it. Gladiators are fun!
Great video! Decided to install this kit myself and everything work out!
Awesome!!
After installing the lift and driving the Glad to work (20+ miles) I received an service electronic stability control message on the dash, then a special NEW and separate check engine light just for the ESC! A little research said it was common for JL and JT that had a lift installed, and this caused the steering wheel to be slightly off center. In fact the steering wheel being off center was so slight I didn't notice it at all. Driving home the error had cleared and didn't come back on but I noticed the steering wheel off center. I adjusted the drag link and now the steering wheel is very close to center. Waiting for the next code!
Interesting. After this installation there have never been any lights or codes and the steering wheel is straight. An alignment is always a good idea after installing a lift. If nothing else, to verify that things are correct.
@@offroadhub.official A friend of mine has a 2020 JT. He did the 2" Mopar then went back and added a 3/4" spacer on the front. I skipped doing 2 steps and did it all in 1 step. Added the lift and 3/4 spacer at the same time. I'm thinking this may be why the steering wheel was just far enough out to throw the code, especially after reading your response.
Awesome video! Very technical and detailed. I have an overland JT with the mopar lift as well! My post lift measurements are very close to yours.
Thanks for watching!
Ken!! Waiting on that Table Mesa footage. but please keep up with the new content, discussions, fixes...we love it all.
Gotta have a little variety! More AZ trails coming! 😄
Thanks for the video. Lining up the control arms are always a PITA!
I like how you got the truck in the garage sideways
Lots of space to work!
It only gave me 2" on my gladiator ecodiesel sport
I was told mopar has software that changes the trans shift, speedometer, etc for the taller tires, etc
Front caster looks off. Is it?
I've heard this kit doesn't center the axle properly without an adjustable track bar.
Front caster was not out of spec. Also, this is a Mopar kit. If it made the front axle un-centered it would cause problems, which Chrysler would then have to resolve under warranty. So no, this kit does not cause any issues with the axle being un-centered. 👍
@@offroadhub.official thanks. I found an open box one locally and I am considering installing it. Originally was wanting Clayton overland and king shocks. But of course that is 6k vs 1500.
I do some off roading but going to 35s and and probably 4.56 gearing.
Great video...super detailed. I'm handy but after I saw your struggle with the lower arms I got discouraged 😞...lol. you mentioned using your RTV and I don't have one 😁. All kidding a side...you made it look easy but it seems it could turned into a big project....thanks for the video...looks great and very informative 👍. Thanks
Thanks Ken for sharing this detailed and informative video with us! I really enjoyed it!
Quick question: How is it not necessary to use adjustable track bars to recenter both the front and back axles?? (the track bar rotates around a fixed point, so it should be adjustable to recenter the axles...)
Thanks!!
That's a good question. I have to defer to FCA on that one. They sell this kit, which maintains your factory warranty, without an adjustable track bar. So the difference that it makes to the axles being centered must be negligible.
@@offroadhub.official Thank you for your reply and your time!
That size lift is over Rubicon ride height size.
I have come to understand that now.
I'm so confused. I have 32" tires and I only got a 2" lift when installed this mopar kit on my gladiator sport with ecodiesel.
Maybe there's a difference with the ecodiesel suspension.
@Offroad Hub possibly. I'm trying to find a video of someone talk about ecodiesel version
Since you had to move that front axle a bit, I'd be concerned (if I did this) it may not be completely centered and straight.
It's totally straight. It can't be crooked with the control arms installed, because they aren't adjustable. The panhard want touched, so it is also still centered. 👍
Seems like on every forum someone is always giving warnings about extra stuff you need to put on with this or...something something.
Is this kit (plus an alignment) really all you need to put some 35s on?
Yes. This is absolutely all you need. You could fit 37's, but regearing would be pretty necessary at that point.
If you ever have to do that again. Do it unloaded with the coil spring not installed. Very easy that way. Great video though.
I fought with it quite a bit, including with the coils out! I don't know what the deal was. Thanks for watching!
@@offroadhub.official thats really strange? Did you have the coils out in both sides? Thats what I really mean.
@@seanohara9491 no, one side was in. I guess that was probably it.
@@offroadhub.official yup. That other "loaded" side with the coil was causing the axle to twist. I really enjoy the videos.
@@seanohara9491 well I'll keep that in mind for next time!! 😄 Thank you!
Is a wheel alignment necessary after a lift is installed.Great video very informative thank you very much
An alignment should always be done after a lift is installed. Thanks for watching!
Good to know
Thank you for the video! I have a rubicon 21 with a rake. Will adding the mopar 2in level out my JTR?
It SHOULD be almost level, almost no noticable rake. This overland is ALMOST level, not perfectly, but really close. Thanks for watching!
Does this lift still need a leveling kit?
No, it's pretty level.
@@offroadhub.official thanks for getting back with us!
Yes it absolutely does
Were the axles still centered under the vehicle after install? Curious to know if a adjustable track bar or brackets would also be needed.
Yes the axles remained centered, at least enough to satisfy FCA OE requirements. I wouldn't mess with an adjustable track bar with this lift.
Where did you get the lift kit from?
I get a kick out of the 'highway' tires on that vehicle.
He's since installed some 35" Nitro Ridge Grapplers.
It's over 2" on your overland because it is a 2" lift for a rubicon which is already taller.
Ahh I've always wondered this! I was thinking about a 3.5 inch lift but now I know that the 2inch lift is enough for my Overland
@@jonathanvazquez3446 did you end up going with this? Did it remain true?
@@eli8375 i never got a lift because my Overland's engine gave out after 5 months of having. After 2.5 months of sitting in the shop with no fix, I decided to just trade it in for a Mojave.
Thanks for the video. It's nice to see this done not on a lift.
I need a lift!
would you not need new front and rear adjustable track bars to re center the axle?
No. The movement off center is negligible and insignificant.
@@offroadhub.official Not to sound smart or anything. But did you measure that or are you just guessing?
@@KnightsGarage I'm basing that on what Mopar sells in their complete kit, engineered by FCA engineers to work with the Gladiator.
And now that it's been a very long time since the install, I can report that there have been zero problems or adverse effects since this lift was installed.
Also having years of observational experience as a Chrysler technician, I promise that you do not need adjustable track bars with this lift.
@@offroadhub.official Ok. Thank you.
@@KnightsGarage you can do some math to figure out how much it will shift the axle over. Too hot to go out and measure right now but I’ll give you an example. If the track bar drops 6” from frame and the axle mount is 40” away parallel to the ground then the bar will be 40.5” long. Drop that 2” and the track bar will shift in 0.35”. It’s not exact cause I am assuming the geometry but it’s not going to be much more or less my friend. Of course a longer bar will have less and a shorter bar relative to my guesstimate will have more.
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For sticklers it matters, but as already pointed out, for vehicle performance and safety it is validated by Jeep engineers so you can rest assured that it will have no issues.
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Honestly, I’ve seen more issues with adjustable track bars not being centered.
What tool/pliers did you use to install the front sway bar links. I can’t install my sway bar links. The bolt turns and I can’t tighten the nut.
I can't remember that detail.
You need an Allen wrench on end of the sway bar stud (bolt) to keep it from rotating as you tighten the nut.
@@1blkout I tried that but it won’t tighten all the way almost like the nut is too small for the bolt but that can’t be the case. Not sure what happened but the washer removed from the sway bar link and I ordered a new one.
@@salientviews I replied to you prior to installing my lift.
I installed my lift yesterday and I had the same issue. I discovered that the original nut that you are supposed to reuse is a fine thread (metric). The replacement link is a course thread (metric). You will need a replacement course thread nut for the new sway bar links, that is what I need to do.
I am heading to the dealer this morning to get course thread ( metric) nuts.
Hope that helps!
Edit: The two new metric nuts that you need are Mopar p/n 6512602AA which are 12mm x 1.75mm.
@@1blkout just ordered them I’ll let you know if they work for me. Thank you!
DO YOU NEED TO RE-GEAR YOUR GLADIATOR RUBICON TO RUN 37's
NEED? NO. NICE TO HAVE? YES! 👍
I noticed you state to make sure the front upper coil pad nubs to seat back in the upper tower. This is on the driver side what about the passenger side? Does it also have the ae nubs?
As I recall the nubs are on both sides.
@@offroadhub.official thanks as I am trying to resolve an issue with my lift install, and I was told the nubs is only the driver side tower.
A silly question;
If they are not installed with the nubs sticking out the tower would they cause the top coil to bow or shift out of center?
@@khalilismyname if you just stuff it up there with crushed nubs it'll be harder to install. If you don't see them then they must not be there. I'm not 100% sure I know exactly what the issue is.
Question I'm getting ready to get a Mopar 2" lift on my 2021 Gladiator Rubicon, and I was thinking on also putting a 3/4" front leveling kit, someone told me that the leveling kits will mess up your front end is that true?
A 3/4" spacer won't mess anything up, it just isn't optimal.
@@offroadhub.official I was told that the spacer will mess up your geometry a little and an adjustable track bar was suggested. I don't want to do this twice, so I ordered a Yeti adjustable track bar to go with my Teraflex 1" front spacer. Lift arrives in 2-3 weeks and I will let you know how it goes. There was a recall on 2020 Gladiators for the aluminum steering box. If your BIL didn't do the recall a steering stabilizer might be in order. Nice video.
@@donaldwilcox9006 when it comes to lifts, ask 10 people and you'll get 10 different answers. 😉 Definitely let me know how yours goes!
Im waiting for my lift kit to be delivered and im planning on installing it myself, it will be my first DIY project on my jeep so I'm looking to buy tools and all the necessary equipment and I have a question, what rating or lifting capacity/height would you recommend me on the floor jack and jack stands for a job like this? Thanks and your video is very helpful, I'll be using it while working on my JT (along side with the instructions obviously LOL)
I used a 3 ton floor jack and 6 ton jack stands. 6 ton stands are overkill, but they are taller which is why I like them. Definitely follow the instructions, they are actually very well done. I didn't follow the instructions perfectly and made the job harder... Install the front lower control arms without either front coil installed! Thanks for watching, glad you liked it!
Where did you get the overland hood decal? My overland did not come with that hood decal
Just from a local vinyl place.
Does it make sense to have this lift on Rubicon that already has a Fox shocks although smaller and a nice clearance?
The lift for a Rubicon wouldn't be the same parts.
@@offroadhub.official I don't think it is different parts. Can you confirm the item number on yours?
@@trail_tracker the part number of the lift I installed is shown at 1:00. I would just assume the Rubicon would use a different lift since the Rubicon is already lifted from the factory.
@@offroadhub.official Thanks. Haven't been able to find a different part # for Rubicon. Will call the dealership to confirm.
@@offroadhub.official the kit you got is for all gladiators. They say it’s a 2 inch lift because if you have a rubicon it will end up lifting it around 2 inches. If you have a sport,overland or Willys you will end up around 3-3.5 higher since they have suspensions that are 1 inch lower then a rubicon from the factory. I’m pretty sure I’m correct about this...been doing research all day lol
How much has this settled since you did the install?
Insignificantly if at all.
Mopar needs to add those 2.5 shocks for sale without the lift.
You can probably buy 2.5" shocks for stock ride height. Maybe not from Mopar.
Great video! Thank you!
How much did it actually lift it?
Mine was already installed so just curiosity
@@chasep5936 about 4 inches as I recall. I go through the numbers toward the end of the video.
those sway bar links look a lot smaller than I would have expected being for a Jeep Gladiator.
Sway bar links don't really take a beating. The maximum amount of stress they take is only to a set amount, so they don't need to be extremely over built.
So, the front went from 35.5 to 39?
Yes.
I’m sure it will settle some later on
@@eddiegray1979 probably a tiny bit.
"Not rusty" = no seized camber bolts to sawzall off...
Correct! 😄 Working on low mileage vehicles is always a little easier!
Should of changed the lower control arms first.
I’m wanting a 3 or 3.5 lift, preferably Mopar due to being covered by warranty. Does Mopar make a 3 or 3.5 lift?
If your Gladiator is a non-Rubicon, this lift will come out to a 3-4 inch lift. It would be a 2 inch lift for a Rubicon, from what I have come to understand.
Why tighten the control arm bolts before Jeep is on ground with weight on tires? I would say this video is full of what NOT to do.
Thanks for watching! 💯
Nice video 👍
Thank you!
I worked on building cars most of my young life....Have you never heard of and air ratchet?
Not only have I heard of an air ratchet... I've used them extensively. But, they don't work very well without an air compressor. This was in my brother in law's garage, not a shop.
Cordless Power tools replace most air tools now
Great Channel and a good man ! More subscribers to come
Great Video
Good job on the video
That break line looked awful tight on the driver's side.
Oldie but a goody........😁
Good content!
Thank you! 🙂
I don't know where you are but the dealers I have talked to are saying that the dealer needs to install this kit to maintain the warranty.
Good vid. I'm getting that kit and 37s.
Excellent! Make sure you install the lower control arms before putting the new coils in! 👍🏻
Something tells me that this is not your first time working on a truck.🤔
Nope. I spent several years as an FCA technician.
get bigger tires
Of course, this was just about the lift. Thanks for watching!
In January of 2024 this lift is $1899, that’s $400 more than you guys paid 3 years ago. Since the fed told us inflation was transitory I’m sure it will come down
Yikes! 😬
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