Beretta 30X - Major Issues, Buyer Beware
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- It’s awful having to make a video like this on something I was so excited for, but with the response I got from Beretta I felt I was obligated to do so.
I feel all firearms manufactures, big or small, deserve a fair opportunity to acknowledge problems and fix them. What I got from Beretta was truly the most outlandish and down right wrong answer any manufacture could provide.
To say 300rds is a “high round count” is insane and an out right lie. As was their deceptive and dishonest marketing that this pistol is more durable.
Please watch and reconsider buying one of these: please share as widely as you can to get this significant flaw out to the masses. Thank you.
God Bless you and your kin. I hope you all are having a great year and have a wonderful Fourth of July.
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Spoke with Beretta almost 2 weeks ago: I have a replacement firearm on the way. It is an updated version of this pistol; unfortunately backordered as of now. Will be posting a video on it and my conversations with them following the conversation I reported on in my latest video on this particular pistol, as soon as it clears transfer.
Thank you for such a thorough review. Excellent content. I ordered mine 2 months ago, finally came into my FFL. I also ordered the suppressor height sights.
After I looked down onto the top of the barrel and noticed that there was a 1mm gap between the left side of the slide and the barrel, but the right side of the slide had no gap.
Something was not aligned correctly. I love Berettas but I also was not happy with the quality of this firearm that was presented to me was presented to me.
I decided to pass on purchasing the 30X.
I commented before but it appears it didn’t post, apologies for that.
Thank you very much for watching and commenting.
I also have that slide gap you mentioned exactly as you see on yours: I didn’t get to that as it’s honestly a minor issue compared to the truly awful problems I am having with wear and genuine damage to the gun under what should be a break in period worth of rounds.
I unfortunately think you made the correct decision not to purchase this pistol: I am very sad to see such poor quality on what was marketed as being much more durable.
I pray that soon we will see a modern, bomb proof .32 hit the market that can handle thousands upon thousands of rounds with a suppressor that wears as it should.
Thank you again for your comment and support: I hope you stick around for my future videos and reviews.
I will definitely be sticking around
@@gemboy4307fulthank you, I greatly appreciate that. My latest video just posted and I had a very informative call with the social media manager at Beretta today.
I have over 400 rounds through my old design LCP that’s been pocket carried daily for over 10 yrs, the finish is still intact and it’s never malfunctioned. Thanks for posting this, think I’ll stick w/Ruger.
@@oldcop18 my grandfather has carried an original LCP for 10 years or so and it runs great still.
The LCP is a really amazing design, and an LCP Max in .32 acp with a threaded barrel is quite close to my dream .32
@@oldcop18 thank you for watching and commenting.
On the plus side, at least your pivot pin hasn’t broken…yet. Seen tons of those on Reddit, which is why I’m holding off on these.
Oh that’s just spectacular!!! Hasn’t heard of that yet, but the firing pins also break a lot apparently. And the frame is very weak: honestly I’m just amazed they let this thing into the wild with all these major issues. Really unfortunate.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
I have a new video dropping this week that is gonna be really cool. Hope you tune in for it!
Super disappointing! I wanted to love this pistol. I am glad I ran into your video. Thank you.
Yea same here man. It’s quite disappointing and unfortunate. I really hope they fix the major issues being reported and replace every one that is beating itself to death in basically one range session.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
I have a fun video coming out this week I hope you check out!
I've had many Beretta tip-ups: 3032 (broke frame, broke slide), 950B/ 950BS, 21A .22lr and .25, multiples of them, thousands of rounds.
All of these frames are alluminum, all of the barrels are forged steel.
I do not think your steel feed ramp is peened / worn. Not by copper / zinc / lead bullets it wasn't.
The rear rail nubs do wear to a point then stop. Keep shooting it.
I've put 250 rds through a 3032, 21a .25, and a 950bs with zero malfunctions. (Not the same day) They can do this without an extractor. (The 3032 did break on its day. It was my final "I'm willing to carry this gun" test day)
As far as point of impact the rear sight can be drifted to adjust left / right, ground down to lower POI, or front sight ground down to raise POI.
Try not to dry fire it. Not only can the firing pin eventually break but the firing pin retaining pin might instead. When it does the firing pin spring will launch the firing pin spring right into your eyeball if you aren't wearing eye protection. (I was shooting & wearing eye protection, the pin dented / scratched the poly lens) Cases go everywhere too, as you know, so wear eye protection every time.
I've learned to count rounds to avoid dry firing when the mag / chamber run empty. If you reall want to dry fire practice put a rubber oring or similar wedged against the back of the slide for the hammer to hit softly.
Recoil springs should be replaced eventually. 2-5k rds.
I do suppress a couple of my Bobcats, so far so good. The 21A .22lr will probably never be reliable enough for self defense but the .25 21a and 950's are very reliable.
All of these guns do better after 50-200 rds of break-in.
Keep shooting yours until it won't. Wear eye protection. Try to use milder ammo, especially suppressed. Fiocchi is warm, S&B very warm. Geco is weak, Blazer is weak, PPU in the middle. I've tested with my chronograph. I reload .25 acp and .32 acp.
Keep shooting it.
I want to clarify that I have thousands through individual examples of 21a and 950's, and in addition most got a 250 rd in one range day test.
My 3032 (wide, Inox) didn't well for the first 500 rds but kept improving. (Frame cracked in that time) Then I tried to run 300 rds in one day and the slide broke around 270 rds. Beretta replaced the gun and I sold it.
3032's are lemons, 21a .25's and 950 .25's are great. 21a ..22lr are mixed.
@@josephpepper3087sounds like you’re a real shooter and I greatly appreciate all the data.
I am going to shoot this pistol till it dies: I have been doing dry firing practice without a snap cap and I don’t count while shooting so we will see how long the firing pin lasts.
I want to believe the wear on the rear rails will stop but after shooting another 100 through it that doesn’t seem likely.
I have another video coming out this week that shows a follow up post the next shooting session.
Please tune in and stick around for what’s to come: I really appreciate your feed back and information.
You should watch my latest video: lots of very good info in there. This particular barrel, as I was told today by Berettas social media manager; is an aluminum barrel with a Terranium sleeve. So the wear I’m seeing on the barrel (while not full on gauling) is substantially more than would be seen on a forged barrel. That outer aluminum sleeve is MIM and not forged. This is blatantly clear from the MIM marking I showed in this video and that was confirmed today as well.
@@FreedomsLife1776 Not a forged barrel? That stinks. I'll have to read about "Terrainium"...
@@josephpepper3087yea I have never in my life heard of that before. Idk if I spelt it even remotely close: I was just going off the phonetics of what he told me. If you look closely you can see the sleeve in the aluminum shell and it does attract a magnet so whatever that interior sleeve is it has some iron/steel to it.
You ever consider building your own .32 ACP platform? You could use a pre-existing barrel design, magazine, just CAD the slide and frame.
@@tuckerT48 honestly more and more every day. I have an idea, would just need to CAD the specs and then idk how I could manufacture. I actually hold a patent for a product I invented years ago and never figured out manufacturing. Been working towards getting that into production again this year; but life always finds a way to kick you back 20 steps.
That’s rather simple production too just don’t have the capital to make it happen and material spec is still not 100%: I’ve tried 4 different materials and all seem to have some negative to them.
@@FreedomsLife1776 I’ve seen a few vids of firearms projects that involve AutoCAD, a 3D printer, pre-ordered laser cut sheet metal, and a router for cutting a bit of steel/plastic. The 3D printer they used to make a jig so the router could stay aligned for the cuts/drilled holes.
I also just found Allegheny Arms’ .32 ACP threaded 81/84 barrel, probably will go that route with an 84BB to make a .32 host gun.
@@tuckerT48 my buddy has a beretta 81 and they are seriously nice. I was looking at those barrels too and that would make an amazing pistol with an 80X. Seriously one of the best .32s available right now. It’s just not the pocket size I want and prefer for a .32: something that big I just say why not 9mm?
But I’d never tell you not to do that build: if you like it that’s a seriously proper build.
will wait for update! thanks.
I will be shooting it more tomorrow and will provide another update within a week.
My next video will be on a Tisas 1911 A1 Patriot which will be a glowing review. If you want an awesome, inexpensive firearm I highly recommend the Tisas 1911. Out of the box the sights were dead nuts on and after 250rds there is zero appreciable wear. Please tune into that video.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
And I was here eagerly waiting for the 'just in case' model. Sad.
It really is sad: I can only explain how excited I was for this pistol by stating I didn’t buy one, I bought TWO when they dropped.
I really hope they use a proper material or coating for the frame to get the durability they marketed and this pistol becomes a solid option.
Thank you for watching; I have another follow up video posting this week.
I just bought one was gonna buy 2 glad I didnt now
@@RussellTorres-u4e you might be the lucky one that has no issues and I truly hope that’s you. The one I just got as a replacement seems better and has definite improvements.
Just be aware of the areas folks are seeing damage, the parts that are breaking and make sure you register it with Beretta so you get the 3 year warranty.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Some guns just aren’t meant to take a lot of abuse. Especially the smaller pistols. 300 rounds in one sitting is a lot. Most people don’t do that. It’s hard to tell from the video. If there aren’t any chunks taken out of the rail itself, and it’s just the finish flaking off, then it’s not a huge deal. But I still agree, definitely disheartening.
I have noticed in the new 92xi’s coming out that the finish sucks. I’ll look at the “new” ones at a store all the time and it always looks like it’s been carried or shot already. I’m guessing it’s just a cheap cerakote. That’s the main reason I’m not too interested in buying one.
@@timewing4611 I understand to very causal shooters 300 rounds might seem like a lot: but it’s not. That’s less than half of what I shoot in a normal day of shooting.
You can’t say some guns aren’t made to take a lot of rounds when it’s directly marketed as more durable or to quote them “unmatched durability”.
And about the chunks: the mushrooming was so severe it locked the slide in place half way back so yes it was a very huge deal. It killed the gun after 400 rounds. Any gun made in 2024 needs to be able to go AT LEAST 10k rounds, they said it should go 15k. It’s dead at 400, that’s a very major problem.
Bottom line: this pistol has major issues that needs addressed.
Thank you very much for watching and commenting: new video out tonight.
You should really watch my second video on this pistol: it has much more information on further damage, and my conversation with a higher up at beretta.
They agreed this is substantially unacceptable damage.
@@FreedomsLife1776 they really need to go back to their Bruniton finish like the 92s
@@timewing4611 I’m not familiar with that finish, but anything that’s legitimately durable would be better than they have now.
They also need to select top quality materials and make sure that their guns can go thousands upon thousands of rounds without damage. It’s wild the worlds oldest gun manufacturer is having issues like this.
I just purchased the 30X Just in Case and I seriously hope I do not have those same issues, wow, certainly an eye opener at 600 bucks.
Yea it is a real eye opener. I certainly hope yours does well and lasts: I really hope I hear back from beretta soon and can show not only what major issues I had, but that they took care of it correctly and replaced my pistol for me.
Only time will tell for either of us. Thank you very much for watching and commenting: I hope you stick around and see what beretta does in the end. I’ll post that as soon as it happens.
@@FreedomsLife1776 I hope that you get positive results from your post from Beretta. I own a few Berettas and always considered them World Class. I will be waiting to hear your response and good luck to you
What are other alternatives that have this same 'cool' factor? PPK/s in .32 supposedly comes out this year
Well a PPK/s with a threaded barrel in .32 would be fantastic. The Colt 1903 gen 3-5 are really good alternatives though unfortunately no longer made at a reasonable price.
A Ruger LCP Max in .32 would be really perfect, especially with a threaded barrel. I’d love a mini Glock like a 92% scale Glock 42 with double stack .32 mags and a threaded barrel.
There’s a whole host of options that can be used to make a truly modern, bomb proof .32
Thank you for this video. I just happened to stumble across it. I will definitely be giving you a follow. I was so hyped for getting this too- although it’s sad to hear, it’s important to know.
Well thank you very much for watching, commenting, and subscribing. I hope this pistol has a happy ending and it gets worked out where no one else has this issue.
As soon as I get my final answer from beretta I will be posting that immediately
@@FreedomsLife1776 That’ll be appreciated! I was going to get this for my elderly mother and recommend it to my elderly godparents. You’re very welcome for the subscription- you’ve more than earned a follow.
Seems like nobody knows the BEAUTY of a Seecamp…
@@armedmariner the seecamp is too small, low capacity, non suppressable and don’t even get me started on ring delayed blow back…
Honestly I’d used one, but my hands are just too big for it.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
@@FreedomsLife1776 I bought a Seecamp about 10 years ago. Worst piece of garbage I ever had. Worked well for approximately 100 rounds before major problems started.
@@archcunningham5579 it’s weird how many of these mouse guns seem to have longevity issues; yet when they were all the rage 100-80 years ago they just worked and lasted forever. I have a sauer and sohn 1930 I’m gonna do a video on one day that’s been shot to literal smooth bore, still puts down semi decent groups at 3-5 yards and I have never had a malfunction.
@@FreedomsLife1776 I’ve since bought several Colt .25 acp vest pocket pistols and two Astra .25 acp and they all function perfectly !!! All these guns were manufactured prior to 1956. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@archcunningham5579 exactly. I love Spanish pistol: my first custom job I did as a gunsmith is a 1970 Llama XV in .22lr. Fully accurized it, had it coated and I fit it back together. Made two custom “extended” mags for it (they only hold 10rds but extend from the grip a little). Made a custom leather shoulder holster for it with my grandfather: truly one of my most favorite pistols.
I also have a 1915 production Colt 1903 I fit a threaded barrel to and it’s 100% reliable. Sounds seriously good with a suppressor too.
That is super messed up. The response from Beretta is something you'd expect from Kel-Tec. I will share this and contact Beretta as well. For the price, that pistol should show only honest wear after thousands of rounds. For them to tell you that it's not meant to be shot is ridiculous.
I contacted beretta. Received a case no. I requested that they watch your video and properly remedy the issue. I gave them my channel name, and suggested that they come up with a reasonable solution. My channel is tiny, but many of my subscribers have 100k+ subs, a few have over a million. I will wait for beretta's response. It may amount to nothing, but I think it is worth a try.
@@WeaponsAffairthank you very much, I greatly appreciate it. It’s beyond shameful and unacceptable to try to tell someone a $600 pistol has a “high round count” at 300rds. I put another 100 through it today and will update that this week.
Seriously: thank you so much for watching, sharing and going above and beyond to contact them and call them out on their lies and failure with this pistol.
I have 41 rounds through mine and the wear is identical to yours. is this just the reality of a carbon steel slide going over an aluminum frame? the old timers you mentioned, that don't have wear issues, are almost certainly steel framed, no? probably ANY modern micro is aluminum; the difference may be as simple as that.
i was very put off by the idea of an aluminum frame; but, the salesman convinced me enough they are tried and true. maybe my feeling was right.
these are just some thoughts; i could be way off.
So it’s a stainless frame not aluminum: same material as the barrel.
You’re correct: the old pistols are all steel. No reason this can’t have a carbon steel frame: using the stainless is just cheaper to manufacture for certain. What should really be the case is a polymer frame.
The fact yours has the same wear at 41 rounds is extremely concerning: what are you using for lubrication?
I just put another 100 through it two days ago and will be doing an update this week I hope you tune in for.
Thank you very much for your input: I hope you comment again with any further data you can provide.
@@FreedomsLife1776
i wish you were right. but, the User Manual itself states it's an aluminum frame. it looks, feels, and acts like it too.
I'm away from home right now, so I forget the brand and such. But, I've got where the slide and frame mate lightly greased, and a light coat of oil in all the other right places.
yeah, I'll tune in for that.
if yours has the same wear as mine with about 500 rounds through it, maybe that's just the break-in wear and it doesn't get much worse.
don't want to spoil your video, but, has it got worse?
oh, i also broke the firing pin dry firing on an empty cartridge; that was kind of my fault. should have used a snap cap, instead. they replaced it quickly; no questions asked.
@@Juneof1944interesting cause it definitely doesn’t seem like an aluminum frame: their user manual has countless errors. Such as the flat head grip screw instead of hex head. It’s definitely the same materials as the barrel so that would mean it’s an aluminum barrel too.
Also aluminum typically won’t gaul like that and aluminum would be hard coat anodized not in the white which for this to be aluminum it would be in the white.
The damage does get worse: you will see that in my next video.
@@Juneof1944just checked and the barrel is magnetic yet the frame is not so idk man it’s weird for sure. Might be some odd ball aluminum alloy. That’s good data from you: I’m gonna call them tomorrow and ask them about that.
@@Juneof1944that also doesn’t count as break in wear as it’s full on damage to that rail lug. Their rep also told me verbatim that 300 rounds is a high round count and the pistol isn’t made to be shot but barely: that’s the real problem I see.
They marketed it as more durable and then told me that.
Wanted one but now i think not
@@richardzink6026 well hopefully my findings on the replacement one I’m receiving are nothing but positive and then you can be confident they are fixing the issues.
@@FreedomsLife1776 the new beretta didn't come to you yet. I would like to see a video on that thanks
@@richardzink6026 unfortunately it’s not in stock at the moment, I figure I’ll have it before the end of the month. I assure you the day I get it I’ll do a video on “arrival condition”.
After that I’ll shot about 200ish rounds through it and post a video on that.
I do have a new .32 pistol I am doing a video on this week I think you’ll find very interesting and I hope you tune in for!
Wonder if they are farming these out to umerex or something like that
I own an umarex made rifle and it has no wear issues, even on the polymer parts. Wonderfully made rifle for what it is: I think these are beretta made as they are made in Gallatin TN. It’s just poor choice in material, even worse choice in finishes (both for the steel and aluminum) and worst of all completely underestimating how much people would shoot theirs.
Thank you very much for watching, commenting and I hope you stick around for what’s to come! I also really hope they get these pistols figured out.
Baretta has 1yr warranty. Read that in a gun mag article back in 96. It almost killed Taurus back then till they started backing up their product. Baretta banking on their 400 yr NAME ONLY. Try a walther ppk / ppks .32 , .380 now made in USA. SA / DA with decocker. 90yr design.
@@rockinchucker4941 right. I have a replacement on the way; though it’s been almost a month since I was told I was receiving it and still don’t have it.
I’m running an FEG AP-MBP now and I really love it. The walther PP is probably my favorite style of .32 behind the Colt 1903 and the FEG seems to be really awesome.
Thank you for watching and commenting, if you stick around I have some really cool videos planned. I have one tomorrow that I think will be very interesting and cool.
@FreedomsLife1776 Yes, I too discovered in 96 the FEG mark2 made in poland an exact copy of the Walter ppk. With a slightly shorter barrel.
@@rockinchucker4941 yea they are awesome pistols, Hungary did a great job with that whole line of pistols. I wish spare mags were much more common but aside from that I have no complaints with that like of pistols.
Especially when you can grab one right now for about $300.
So many people letting one video and one pistol deter themselves from owning a good firearm
@@ArmedAndIndigenous it’s far from one video and one pistol; beretta just sent out a notice about the barrel pin failures. Firing pin failures are being reported constantly and the frame damage was so severe the gun died at 400rds: slide would not fully travel to the rear, was completely stopped and locked up by the rail damage.
These are currently not good pistols, any positive review on them is either luck or a lying shill like Sootch. The majority of people owning these are reporting issues: to the point beretta had to release a notice on it.
You should watch my second video if you want the full story being I spent almost an hour talking with beretta.
I have a replacement on the way and when it arrives I greatly hope it lasts a long time (an appropriate time as any .32 should last) and I have no issues with it.
@@FreedomsLife1776 well dang. I hope Taurus makes a version like they did with PT92 and simplified berettas design.
@@ArmedAndIndigenous it’s a neat design and whether beretta makes it work or someone else; that would be wonderful. What we really need is a 2024 .32: like an LCP Max with threaded barrel.
What I REALLY want to see if a 1903 style .32 with a polymer frame, double stack mag, threaded barrel, and Tokarev style removable self contained fire control group. That would be a remarkable pistol.
In a TFB interview, beretta stated that the 30x project started as a manufacturing cost reduction initiative. Yes the 30x has modern features and may have fixed the slide frame cracking issues, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the gun itself is made with cheaper/poorer quality materials and/or manufacturing techniques
@@w00borg34 agreed. I’m very locked in for how this product line evolves. I have confirmation today my new pistol will be a more updated version of the pistol, I have high hopes it lasts much longer than the 400 rounds my previous pistol lasted.
I am also extremely happy to show that beretta has honored their warranty above and beyond and that l believe anyone whom has issues on the level I had they can be confident their pistol will be replaced.
Idk how long it will be till my new pistol arrives, but I assure you I will be documenting my results with it expediently upon its arrival.
Please watch my second video on this particular pistol, I have much more information there.
Thank you kindly for watching and commenting. I hope you stick around for what’s to come on this pistol line and more.
did they offer to replace the screws? lol
They did not. They said that’s how they are and to “be careful” tightening them. They also said the flat head screws shown in their own manual are an old design and not available. Really a pathetic response all around from Beretta.
Mine has the same wear after 50rds. I've had 3x 3032 before this, sold them to get GHB.
Yea it sounds like almost all of these are having this major wear problem. Beretta better get this figured out quick or they are gonna take a heavy hit from everyone sending theirs in.
Thank you very much for watching and commenting: I sure hope you subscribe and enjoy my feature videos.
I have a great one coming later this week. Hopefully tomorrow.
Glad I didn’t buy one
@@henrycotton1554 I wish that wasn’t the case. I wish this pistol was a home run. I’m still waiting on my replacement and berettas communications have fizzled out almost entirely. Idk when I’ll get my replacement but I sure hope it’s this week. And more than that I really hope it lives past 400 rounds hahah
Thank you for watching and commenting.
In other words they still haven't done nothing to fix those damn guns. People are watching Beretta do something with your shit guns we are sick of it . and you owe this guy for two guns .what was that mess his dealer sold him the first time ?
@@rc391995 yea man, I really hope they get it worked out. I still have not heard back.
I’m hoping in the next week I have a new gun on the way.
Thank you very much for watching and commenting: hope you stick around. I have a very informative video coming out tonight.