Triumph Daytona 675R vs Kawasaki 636R | Review and SMACKDOWN!!!
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- Riding my good buddy Nick's 2016 Kawasaki ZX6R and comparing it to my 2016 Triumph 675R. Of course, a SMACKDOWN or 2 happened.
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the dent in the tank is for your chin in a proper full tuck race position.
ROMEO oh shit that makes so much more sense
ROMEO m
I thought it's for when you do a stand on your head on the tank wheelie.....maybe I'm wrong.
I almost had to shut off the video when he said it was a "stunt" tank, especially right after talking about the track...
Thank you, exactly. I had the older one and that was my thought on track. Great design.
Both fantastic machines. Amazing how close they are on a pull.
I don't understand how this channel doesn't have more subscribers. I only watch this channel and muscle biker these days, got bored of all the clickbaity rubbish and money making schemes the 'famous' motovloggers do... Keep up the great work 650, best moto channel for sure, just bikes, how we like it.
+Ady B Thanks Ady. I'm not changing my format.
Nothing beats the sound of Daytona, I'm all about the sound hahaha
Does sound good.
Ducati still sounds best.
Frank Burdo Drums idk man H2 with Brock’s exhaust sounds reeeaaalll good. I guess it’s just which kinda sound you prefer
@@AQS521 I'm talking stock right off the line no aftermarket parts
Frank Burdo Drums oh okay well in that case they all sound bad imo lol. Way too restricted from the factory
@@AQS521 No Ducati still sound best.
Wanted to see this for a long time, awesome way to review dual log style, hope to see more like this, thanks
Loving the transition on your interest towards the 600cc class bikes as well. Always a sweet content you deliver buddy regardless of the cc's. Keep up with it let's celebrate the milestone subs coming up soon!
Thanks so much for the comment bro.
@@650ib Thank you likewise bro for all the hard work and awesome videos you've been gifting us with throughout the years without missing a beat
Wow never knew those bikes were so close in comparison! Definitely made the video much more enjoyable.
They run just like the dyno curve would show. Triumph has it in the low to mid range and the 636 started pulling back on the big end.
Your videos are top notch ib. Thanks for the great content. 👌🏽
Hey Mr. Ib, great video! The ZX6R is probably my favorite 600cc super sport! cant wait to purchase one for myself!
Yeah that would be interesting with the full system and tune on the 636 which would be faster but that's just my fan boy for Kawasaki haha great bikes in every way the 675 definitely makes you feel special though.
+The Muscle Biker I agree Sir. Nothing like a full Ohlins suspension, Brembo brakes, quick shift and carbon fiber bits plus the awesome sequential blue shirt light.
i love how your doing supersport smackdowns now! cant wait to see how the super duke will do with smackdowns!!
Great content video. Wish you could have alot more like this although we know winters around the corner, so in really looking forward to what you will have inspring 2017
if the ZX6R had an exhaust and a quick-shifter maybe it would smack the Triumph.cause i notice that the triumph's advantage was only while shifting and not the acceleration .
2019 636 comes with the quick shifter stock
@@TatsByTaco well it didnt in 2017 man, its youtube not a time machine
@@TatsByTaco lmaoo kawi wish no it doesnt it comes as an add on it you willing to pay extra
bulls eye nope, comes stock In all models dude. Check the website for yourself.
That 675 definitely walked him, the 636 takes the L
Definitely two of my favourite super sport bikes ive had 2 Kawasaki zx6r the 2010 and 2011 neither were the 636 model but gotta say I absolutely 💚 both of them im a massive Kawasaki fan I came so close to buying a 2015 Kawasaki zx6r 636 6 months ago but instead opted for the triumph Daytona 675r a 2013 model and gotta say the bike is everything people say it is and more its truly amazing 👌with all the goodies it comes with in my opinion it is leader of the super sport for sure the only thing ive done to my 675r is had the rims powder coated Ducati red but I would definitely one day go back to Kawasaki still really 💚 them
Nice, got myself a '13 Kawa 636, didn't ever expect you one one though :)
Love this bike!
I love watching you video's, especially when I can tell what roads you're riding on. I'm in Akron so I ride the same area.
Nice Ib, glad to see your liking your Triumph love the smackdown in it
Good vid . I would like to see a rematch with the 636 tuned and full system / quickshifter thou as it pulled you in convincingly on the top end in stock form .
Or with a rider that isn't scared of cops and to go over 100mph.
I've seen ZX6Rs toast 675s.
Great vid 650ib and it's good to see the 600's being reviewed. They are both great sports bikes and I'm sure you would love the 636 just as much as the triump if you modified it as you do to most of your bikes.
Thanks Bro
great comparison, thanks for the vid, I would be happy to have either of these bikes.
You stated the wet weight of the 636 and the dry weight of the 675r. The wet weight of the triumph is 416 lbs. Great video though!
+Danny O'Toole Whoops! Thanks for catching that.
I thought WOW that is a huge difference.. then after seeing the race, Im thinking that ZX6R was more powerful to move that weight like that
put a quick shifter on the 636 and pipe and it's lights out for the triumph
MrAssholebynature1 It's should have come with a quick shift from the factory, lol. He's getting all the mods next year and we will try it again.
MrAssholebynature1 Lol! What are u getting done to it????
650ib Full build everything and if it breaks I will just get an H2 and call it a day lol I won't do this process again lol
not to mention its missing its muffler. less back pressure less power.
should have tried someting like 4th gear at like 4 or 5/6k rpm....
Kawi has great top end power, so in 2nd gear at those rpms triupmh could'nt beat it. for me it was even...maybe daytona pulled away slightly cause of quicksifter
I love my 2013 ZX-6R so much (in white/black) and it is an incredible bike for sure. Clearly the Daytona is a little faster (and more expensive) as it does have a displacement advantage over the Ninja and is a little lighter and more flickable. In fact, the 675R is probably the only bike out there that I would really want to upgrade to from my Ninja as I don't really like liter bikes and the 636 and 675R are my favorite supersports. Your white Daytona looks sick AF btw, just wish it still had the projectors on the previous model.
my exact thoughts
love your reviews ib very professional...I was looking at purchasing the RSV4 rf but Damm the Daytona looks mighty tempting also !
Hey 650, may i ask how you record audio from another coms unit? :)
I picked up a 16 636 back in July after riding a 300 for a couple of years. I'm so pleased with it. I'd love to ride a 675r some day too. That triple sounds great.
Beautiful bikes and great video as usual!
I've been trying to explain to people that the Triumph is actually the cheapest 600 super sport class bike. Yeah you spend more money on it at the dealership but look at all the things you get stock that you would have to upfit on the other bikes in the class (quick shifter, Brembos, ABS, etc) it's the best deal
Not realy. The ZX6R with abs is 2k less then 675, and it have traction cotrol butt 675 dont have. Second watch some super sport comparison, and you will see that nisin brake are same as a Brambo (Suzuki GSX600R have Brembo) and is not better then nissin. So you have 2k for quick shifter to and you cn buy some more stuff.
You DO know that the 675R has Ohlins suspension on it right ? A TTX-GP rear shock is $1600 and the forks
are $2100. If you can't see the added value in just the suspension you're blind. Then you get the Brembo brakes and quickshifter aswell. And lol Brembo isn't better than Nissin ? Brembo has been the dominant force in racing for decades, they're definatly better for the track than the Nissins i have on my standard 675 . For street riding the Nissins works well, i have no issues with them.
2500$ is set of ohlins TTX-GP rear shock and forks. Yes the brembo are better for race, but this is not racing brakes, the brembo on triumph and Nissin on ZX6r are same on the track, chek some super sport track comparison. And is better to have traction control then abs for track. If you know just a little bit you will know that the ZX6R is clamed the best supersport. So no need to talk with you.
jasamnedostizan Thats bullshit, you can buy them used for that but not new. These are supersport bikes, tractioncontrol isn't of major importance and isn't used in either the world supersport championchip or in Moto 2. I'm not saying that it's a better bike than the ZX6R but your claim that it isn't good value just isn't true. Your vision is clouded by fanboyism, i have owned 2 ZX6R's and i like them aswell but i'm not blind.
New for 2500 i cheked on internet. Hahaha, so ABS is more important then tractioncontrol. I didnt say that isnt good value just that ninja is better value. So please dont talk anymore.
That 636 sounds sick man. Nice video. Keep it coming
Good video for me as I just purchased a 08 Daytona 675 and a 06 Kawa 636 SE. both incredible bikes
Congrats Bro
New to 650 ib videos... Awesome mate!
Thank you for this video. I started watching your videos when you were ibsabur back then! :)
Been riding for 3 years now and time to get a 636.
reflexesir Thanks for watching over the years and you'll Love the zx6R!
650 man lately you've been killing it with the content
teamplsxz Thank you!
This is a great video. Very informative. Thanks man God bless.
The Triumph will always represebt and is a all time fav but that Kawa Team Green wasnt slacking.
Im glad i was able to pick a 636 up last year just trying to do some tunes sooner tyan later. This video has me stocked either way!
I love my ZX6R and wouldn't trade it for anything else in it's class. Kawi's attention to detail with the mirrors and flush turn signals, projector style headlights I love the bike. It looks way better than the 675R in my opinion much more aggressive. Plus Kawi's customer service and warranty department are always willing to help out if something goes wrong so you get a great bike and good service you can't beat that
345Hemi/636Ninja yeah Kawasaki's Customer Service and Warranty Department is Second to None. They have replaced my Stator, Rectifier, Transmission, and ECU Free. Honestly I though I may have done the Damage being new. However upon Inspection nothing g could he confirmed. So they have had my back ever step of the way. Since then I've been loyal since. A manufacturer that stands behind it product like that will have my business for life. I didn't have these issues until I got 30,000 miles up on My 2013 Ninja ZX-6R 636. Again I belive it was my fault but they stood by me!
ZX6R crushing any 600. Their motorcycles are too amazing. Kawasaki all day.
suman debnath the 636 will whip that r6s ass all day long
when my 2014 675 was stock I beat a 2015 636 at the drag strip. that bike is no pushover. 650Ib, I look up to you seruosuly man. you are proof of what hard work is capable of. my dream bike in a panigale anniversario edition, and I know I'll have it. as usual good video. my daytona is at 25k miles no serious issues. bike is beyond awesome.
Your bikes are gorgeous 650ib! Loving the content so far new sub here!
Ezequiel Robles Thanks, my friend!
I really like this type of review!
+650ib final my motorcycle makes it on the smakdown videos, haha great stuff.
the triumph has more displacement, weighs less, and a quick shifter... 636 wins in my opinion
it has one less calendar thats why they give it a higher displacement.. look at the ducatis with twin engines, they have to have +200 cc to make the same power. its not really an advantage
I love the 636 so much. It will definitely be my first 600 bike.
defjam213 You won't regret it
defjam213 even an 05-06 is a great bike they are older but that extra torque from the motor is nice.
Aeesome video Ib, we love your comparison videos! Wish this came out a month ago when I was deciding between the 675r and the 636 😭 Ended up adding the 636 to the stable but may have to make some more room!
Same here. I didn't know much about the 675r until after I got my 636
The Incognegro Thanks man! You'll love the Triumph 675R!!!
both bikes, gorgeous. Great vid ib!
i had a 2015 636 30th aniversary and it was a good bike but its mostly good as a stunt bike it does very well at wheelies but as far as racing it never really was the best for that i just traded mine in for the new 2017 zx10r and absoloutly love it
Go on the trumpet, when you say an Arrow ECU flash, does that actually change the map? In the U.K. The only thing the dealers offer is a "valve delete map" which sorts out the mapping for when the butterfly valve gets removed with the stock exhaust
Hey 650ib I'm thinking about getting a 2013 triumph 675 but I was just woundering what is your top speed on yours ?
I heard you put in an order for a Gregg's turn signal, if I may, may I recommend comparing it to a set of Watsen Design signals. There is always a long wait for the part but you may find it well worth it. Also, I appreciate the comparison of these 2 bikes
Love your vids bro
I like your idea of comparing bikes this way
Glad to hear you enjoying the ol' 636 :D
I'm digging that 636R. Ib, what's your take on the new 2017 R6 and will you be getting one? Seems like a re-skinned R6.
CLUTCH1st Thanks man. Then zx6R is a nice bike. I'm not sure if I will end up with a R6 but I will ride it on the track at Yamaha Champion Riding School and make a video. It looks amazing.
bro in your previous videos u have r1 bmw s1000rr & h2 so when u bought this triumph???
Love the videos, helped me convert to a triumph. Which type of wind screen do you have.... double bubble zero gravity ? Don't have an R but you sold me on the quick shifter, look very easy to install on the 675.
+e_ski e_ski Hey there. Yes, the windscreen is a Zero Gravity Racing 'double bubble' light smoked. I'm glad you love your 675! It's a GREAT bike.
I like em both. Never rode a triumph but think its beautiful and have a soft corner for the kawi as my first super sport was an 06 636.
hey 650ib whats the top speed on the 636r im looking forward to getting me one and are they faster then a 600rr? And also whats the cost of a 636 help me out man i love fast bikes
Not having a can make a noticeable difference on the 636. Mine came with a stupid straight thru exhaust and I switched to a Yoshi can noticed a decent amount of midrange power increase. The Triumph is a better track bike for sure tho.
Marc Wolinsky Mine is a 05. She's old but still very good looking.
+DJ MotoVlogs I agree Sir.
I have a 2015 636, I weigh 280 lbs and this thing is extremely comfortable (coming from previously owning an 05 r6). And after installing a 2 brothers s1r exhaust over the original canister you can feel a lot more power coming in the mid range over stock (I was honestly surprised).
WOW!
The Triumph is a beast!
what are the things you added on the triumph?
Having had both bikes - and I still have the 675R in the garage, I can say the triumph is better in every way, lighter, better useable power through the midrange & up, better handling - it's an awesome bike, I sold the ZX6r after spending a small fortune on upgrades but it never got near the 675R, just a shame Triumph stopped making them :-(
Mine sits next to my RSV4 with pride :-)
Simon Konetsky You have 2 amazing bikes Simon!
Cheers buddy - unfortunately not as many as you ! but I have been making space in the garage for more - I have a KTM 250XC Dirtbike too for winter, I might change my RSV4 Factory 2013 for a new 2017 RSV4 RF next summer so I want you to get one and do a review !!!! :-)
I tried a panigale 1299 but I didnt like it as much as my aprilia -
so what is your favourite bike ? there must be one
What about cost of maintenance?
GT Nismo that’s a difficult one, to be 100% honest the triumph probably would be more expensive long term, with track use the Daytona does have a recurring issue with wear to the gearbox shift plate & detent wheel, it only costs about £100 or so to replace but it does wear and then you miss shifts, the Kawasaki was pretty much bullet proof. The parts on the triumph are generally good quality high spec but the nuts, basic bolts and fixings are poor. I did sell my Daytona and got an R1M - I had that 2.5 years but got rid of that now and back to a 2019 RSV4 😀👍
These guys reviewing 2 good bikes, and I LOVE the 675, but I had only eyes for the aprilia
Atleast u did another ninja, am a Kawasaki guy, I thot the triumph wud beat the zx with a big margin bt they r like similar am proud of the kawi, good video ib
I love your review new sub
+30097spartan Thanks so much for the compliment and subscribing 🔥🔥❤❤
Hey 650, a little off topic but what do you think of the ZX-10RR? I've had the Zx-10, H2 and even an H2R (sold it right after I bought it :(. I have a 1299 S and want another track bike. Looking for an honest opinion. Otherwise I'll try and get the R1. Is the race Ninja gonna be all that??????
+Andrew Perez The zx10rr is the same as the zx10r but with an upgraded suspension and brakes. It doesn't have more power. It's a nice bike.
Man, I have a 2013 Daytona but the non R version... Really want a quickshifter now haha. Great vid! Glad to see the Daytona is faster than a 636, I honestly wasn't sure!
+kuabarra Thanks man! You'll ❤ the quick shifter.
You don't know how excited I was when I saw this video! I was pumping gas and people thought I was crazy when I was jumping up and down so excited like a little girl about this video. I parked in the parking lot just to watch this lol It looks like the speedo on the zx6r is off. It was showing faster than yours but your bike was pulling away. Wish I would have gotten the 675r than my 636 now...
tonytypes They're both great bikes but the Triumph 675R is awesome!
Hey, man. Are you going to the IMS Moto show in NYC this year?
Wallace French Yes Sir. I will be there on Saturday December 10th.
I think the Triumph will always have more character than the ZX, but in terms of reliability and outright power the Ninja has more potential. Great video 650ib, keep them coming my man.
I've owned a 2011 ZX6R and it's an amazing 600. I've personally rode all 600s and the zx6r is personally the best one compared to r6, cbr, & gsxr. But that being said the 675r is definitely superior in almost every way. More expensive bike but much better in fit and finish and all around an amazing bike!
nice rundown of two great bikes
Wet weight of Daytona is actually 407lbs wet :)
IDK why Triumph misquotes wet weight; the manual says my Daytona Moto2 is 363 lbs wet. The reality is it's 417.
@@MMPAspergerian yeah those numbers stood out to me. Seemed really unrealistic.
any quick shifter off hand you could recommend? I'm definitely planning on adding one to mine!
Also, see the new 2017 ZX6/10R?
Jonny Moto if your going to get your ECU flashed FT tuning has it as an add on. If your going the fuel controller route buy a Bazzaz cheaper than powercommander with a after you add a QS. Plus the Bazzaz control all the injectors. If your going stand alone QS go with the HealTech unit. They are awesome and sync to your phone.
TheJalopy80 good info
im a little more pumped for this vid since i can relate a bit more to these bikes ;-) commenting b4 watching the whole vid...team kawi all day but have a feeling 650ib will win. :-)
Well I see you got the Arrow system. the 636 is great, not as great as a 675 though but Geez I was impressed to see it stay with a bike with full exhaust and weighs 70 lbs lighter
if 636 has quickshifter and full exhasut he will destroy 675
The point of TC is to stop the back tire from spinning out, so it makes sense it stops wheelies
if you could have one of those bikes only which one would you choose?
My new 636 has a stock quick shifter stock i love it
get the 636 much better. looksy way nicer. i wanted the 2016 636
is there any difference between HP 4 and s1000rr
that drag race was awesome
do u think the 636 is a good bike for someone who is tall? 6'3
Is the jumper mod still a thing for the Kawi?
hello! how about reliability with the 675?
Got the 2015 30th Anniversary Edition 636 and I can't say enough good things about it.
very nice comparison video !! .. I do belive that quickshifter helped out a bit :) .. It would be nice to see if you guys could have gotten close to topping them out !! I'm from sarnia Ontario right on the border of Port Huron Michigan and I will be hitting some track days next year in Ohio :)
+BrappWithMe motovlogs Let's meet up at Mid Ohio Raceway and do some street riding in Detroit.
650ib yes of course next year I'll be hitting up mid ohio and yes for sure would love to come to Detroit I'll bring a few of my boys and we will meet up for sure :) .. crazy how it was 20 degrees Celsius 2 days ago and now it's -1 lol ... riding season is over at the moment :(
when the hell you mod the arrow exhaust? i think every mod that you got, have to be on youtube
i'd really love to see that
+Raid Luthfi Lol. I uploaded a awesome video of that mod on my channel.
Wait, what do you mean by intergrated turn signals on the 636? Don't they stick out on the side like on the 675R?
Jewish Autist yeah majority of the Ninja ZX line up and other bike in the Ninja family have Flush Mount Turn Signals .
I'm dying to get the 675R but scared of the unavailability of the traction control. I'm not an expert rider and all my bikes have TC. Did some research recently and realized that some companies do sell TC modules for this bike. Have you heard anything about them? If so, does the TC work as smoothly and efficiently as if it were from Triumph itself? Your reply is very very much appreciated.
+kolokolok 2016 Most of the aftermarket TC systems work just as well as OEM. I haven't found the need for TC on the 675R and I've ridden it in heavy rain.
Thank you so much for responding sir! I need it as a track bike so it'll be pushed around. I currently own the new MV Agusta Brutale 800. Its got a quickshifter up/down with an auto blipper, and 8-way TC. Now I want a dedicated track bike but I've only done 3 track sessions albeit I did very well. Its only the TC that's holding me off. Do you know the best TC systems and where to install them along with the optimization? I live in Dubai but I'm willing to bring them over from the states if I can't do it localy. Thanks again!
I like the 675 but I think the zx6r would take it with an exhaust system and tune
zx6 also has en extra cylinder, much more potential for power
how do U get both videos to view like that ?
Damn it, im gonna have to get another 675R too. If not, the 959. Good race.
You're awesome, and very humble! Great video ! Subbed!!
Koala Thank you very much for the compliment and for subscribing Koala 😃👍🔥❤
675R is an amazing bike, it does not weigh under 400lbs wet but never the less a great vid :)
If you ever come to Destin FL give me a holler I'd like to get in on a smackdown or 2 😂
What's your preference, the 636 or the R6?
Ib you've been on the r6 and 636. Which one is more smackdown suited!?
The Truth I prefer the R6 over the zx6R.
Which sounds better inline3 or inline4 ??
Went from a 03?636R to a 2015 Daytona 675R to now an F3 675 😂😂😂 truthfully while I've loved all the bikes, the MV is my favourite (though the Daytona R was definitely the better all round bike) the MV has soo much character and sex appeal though.... Can park that supermodel ANYWHERE in Vancouver and she gets heads snapping
The MV is a gorgeous bike!
@@650ib very reliable too! 28,000 kms and no problems at all
650 I have to pick a bone with you on this video. Your 675 is perfectly tune and has mods and you pick on a stock (missing can will mess with performance) 636.. I ask you to go out and pick on a 636 that has mods and tune for those mods. I bet you will not find your 675 to be so strong looking in the end.
And he's heavier and he chose to ride the zx6r(which is heavier among the 2). Had nick been riding the zx he would've pulled away. :3
Nick was riding the zx6r. It was his camera during the smackdowns not ib's.
Advaith Warrier You're right. The first smackdown was with ib riding the 6r. so I assumed the rest were too. My bad.
well there still a very valid point. The 636 is heavier. I've ridden both bikes and SHOOT the 675R has so much more bottom end into mid range against the 636. But that's where it stops. These bikes meet into the middle and that's where the 636 builds more power. but bring the 636 weight down and it makes a big difference. I was laughing butt off because I could Actually hear how much slower Nick's ZX-6R was against my current 636 with all its small extras.
And a gear change will fix that low end power difference -1 Plus 2 and an ecu flash and since they looked even depending on who got the drop off the zx6r will rain supreme it just goes to show how the inline 4 is far better in racing than 3 cylinders every time you seen the zx6r catching up fast before they let off
Went into a store yesterday and I sat on a zx6r and zx10r and those were so beautiful in person. The zx6r felt great and looked great. Always said I didn't like Kawasaki because I am a bandwagon