Look at some of the reviews of aftermarket chains. I've read some horror stories of aftermarket chains breaking. OEM lasted 140k Miles without breaking. Do what you want @@imgonnagogetthepapersgetth8347
@@zimmermanlandscape9287 Why were we lucky if they made 100,000 miles? Because they were poorly made with poor parts right at the factory. That was my point about oem parts. That's not all-encompassing, of course.
Used this as a guide on a 15 Equinox with just under 92k starting to make the noise already-turns out the chain was stretched and rubbing the top of the valve cover. This is probably the best video explaining this process without an engine hoist, and your explanation of top-dead-center actually made a lot of sense. All in all it took me about 10 hours start to finish but it already runs so much better that it ever had before.
I'm not sure why you found it necessary to take out the engine mount. The top 2 bolts were kinda 'hard' to get to on the timing chain cover, but managed after some time.
I did my timing chain, water pump chain, sprocket's, guides, cam sprockets, gaskets ect.... I have seen a lot of texts people have left saying they tried to change theirs and were not able to get it running again. One problem people run into is they don't have they're cams set properly they put it back together and they get valve interference with the pistons and valves ( motor will lock up) the way to avoid that is while standing on the passengers side of car look at the first cam lobe on the front of engine (intake) make sure the lobe is at five o clock then look at the first back cam lobe make sure it is at seven o clock if you have your lobes at these points and your number one cylinder is set at top dead center you are good to go to re assemble your timing chain and will not get any interference. Buy a good kit cloyes is a good brand make sure all of your timing chain slack is all on the left side so your chain will be tight when you install and trigger your chain tensioner. Put a cloth over your gap where the oil pan is open so you don't drop any bolts or parts down in your pan.
Just wanted to say that I have the exact same vehicle, and one of the black guide bolts worked its way loose and wreaked havoc inside the timing cover and snapped the cam timing chain. The kits was about $115 off of Amazon and I was able to replace EVERYTHING and re-time it all thanks to your video. Your instructions are spot on. It runs so smooth and quiet now. Purring like a kitten. Thanks man! A fantastic tutorial. Took me about 12 hours, start to finish. I did not have to remove the engine mount. I was able to get that top bolt with a 10mm 'ratchet style' box end Stanley wrench. Just a great tutorial, I can't thank you enough. Top quality. Keep em coming!
@@buscojosenjuarezdenuevoleo9669 yes, you'll need to drain the oil because you have to remove the entire oil pan. (13mm socket) And be sure to clean it of any debris. Including the oil pickup tube inside the pan. (10mm socket) So make sure you have some Permatex gasket maker or equivalent, since there is no manufactured gasket for this engine's oil pan. Put in new oil and filter after reassembling and before starting the engine again.
This video is excellent, it makes this pain in the rear end of a job so much easier. Thank you for taking the time to make it and share it with the world.
Kindness is a weakness to the indecent but virtuous to the decent thank you for being among our most decent. Nice work. My wife just bought one similar. Drove to Nebraska from Colorado and back. Next day that dreaded sound. I love working on vehicles and did it back in 1980 in my 20s professionally for a few years. My body today don’t like to get in all those uncomfortable positions but I’ll do it. Your video is perfect. Bravo sir. Those engines look pretty dirty now a days.
I have the same GMC Terrain Vehicle and at 109,000 miles I started hearing a noise near the timing chain. I took it into a shop and they stated im better getting a used engine for $1,500 to $2,000. So I decided to do it myself. I had removed the items in your vehicle and saw that the timing chain was lose as expected. I purchased the items on your video and did it myself making sure I did not miss a step from your video. It took 10 to 12 hours. The vehicle is running like a new vehicle and no oil leak anywhere and sounds like a new vehicle. Great Job!! and Thanks for the video.
This video was amazing, used this when I replaced my wife's timing chain on her 2013 Terrain. Thank you for this excellent video, made my life a whole lot easier. Thank you.
If your only paying 1500 for this job , RUN! This is a detailed job and not to be rushed through by some non tax paying mechanic! With timing kit, water pump, gaskets, spark plugs, warranty , 3200 bucks easy.
@@Rccrdawgs not true, my guy said 1400. It would probably take him 4 hours and he's legit.. works in a shop during their after hours and takes in his own customers.
Great video... for those who are having trouble aligning the exhaust cam key at,, 27:51 he explained, but if you have doubts with that method there is another method.... So all timing marks should be aligned with the crank shaft key at 12. With marked timing chain link on exhaust cam place sprocket on cam(do not tighten) turn crank shaft (looking at bottom mark witch is 6oclock to about the 7oclock mark. If your look at the top key it will be another the 1oclocl... Then take a 24mm or 15/16 wrench against intake cam and rotate counter clockwise also while rotating exhaust cam sprocket counter clockwise until the exhaust sprocket key meets up with the exhaust lock. It may take a few times but it always works for me... hope that it works for you..
I have the same vehicle and I’m going through this now I’ve changed the top timing chain but didn’t do the water pump one. Put everything back started then second later ….off, imma just doing all the timing and follow your video. No one else did a video on the terrain timing chain but you. Very well made video bro this will help me out a lot.
Thanks for the comment. Lmk if you have any questions, I'll always do the best I can to help the people that watch my videos. Also Make sure that you replace the guides and tensioners. Don't cheap out on parts here. It's BEST to use OEM parts. Cost me around 300 bucks for All OEM components. I've read so many horror stories of people having aftermarket chains break.
Thanks for the informative video. I have a feeling I'll be doing the same job on my wife's Equinox soon. And props to your wife-to-be/wife for hanging in there while the car was being worked on.
Your a good mechanic my friend. Its always nice to talk to someone whos been there and done that. In this case you capture those little things that someone doing it for the first time would have to figure out on their own, you know, things like how to hold your tongue the right way to get to a bolt or locating that bolt you cant see but can only feel ( The Houdini bolt ). Thanks for posting, I'm sure your video will save me a couple hours time as I'm getting ready to tackle this job myself.
Great video, one of,if not the most detailed video I’ve seen on a 2.4 timing job. Just did the same job on my 2012 Equinox yesterday. Great job bro.. you earned a like, and subscription 🎉
Thank you for the extreme informative video. Timing chain jobs can be very nerve racking. You gave the understanding that is exactly what’s going on with my 2015 GMC Terrain sle awd
Just did this job and could not get the left housing bolt closest to the block started without some modifications. 1st and foremost the geniuses that designed the 2012 2.4 Terrain SLE wrapped a coolant pipe around the block obstructing most any access to the bolt head. While my 1/4 drive either 3 extensions and the narrowest socket I could find helped get the bolt out...getting the bolt to start for reassembly was a mofo. To get to it I removed the left front wheel, the left side transaxle dirt covet and jacked it up and supported it about 2 ft off the ground. From here I could reach in and finger tight the left housing bolt which I ran thru a metric die to clean up the threads. Once the bolt was started a few turns then I went back to the 1/4 drive either extensions from the top side and alternated between the 2 bolts until together. I followed closing off the top heater core pipe, but still had to burp it for 40 mins to get a steady temp. Also the radiator petcock wanted to drip and took some back and forth and in and out pushing to get the right place to stop drain flow. Par for course for working on a GMC Terrain.
I was going to attempt this myself but, i dont have a garage. Plus i dont trust doing something ive never done. Thank you for this video, if i HAVE to do it myself. This will be the video i watch and if you dont mind ill put your link below!
Thanks for the comment George. Just make sure that all those timing marks line up. It seems like a complex and intimidating job, but it's really not that bad.
Also. You can see when he is in there. There is a sliver of head gasket hanging out that is crazy sharp. Save yourself the hassle and make sure not to force any bolts out and your ratchet slip. Trip to the ER cost me more than the repair.
By any chance, to you remember the torque specs on the crankshaft pulley bolt, as well as the valves cover bolt torque specs? By the way, I was able to do these same repairs with ease because of your video. Most detailed video out there! Besides the cutting the video short!
I love your video. You was real detail and I always will subscribe to you. You taught me how to do a time and change job on a 2013 GMC terrain thank you so very much.
Should I be hearing a popping sound when I hand crank the motor to cylinder #1. The chain broke all the guides and jumped time/ tooth. Could there be a bent valve.???
THIS IS AN AWESOME DIY VIDEO...VERY INFORMATIVE AND WASN'T RUSHED! IM MECHANICALLY INCLINED BUT HAVE BEEN DOUBTING MYSELF ABOUT IT.....THIS INSPIRED ME!
Awesome video, I did it without removing the motor mount, you just ha e to get that top 10mm bolt with a skinny ratchet from the top above the alternator :)
I just done this job on my wife’s 2017 GMC terrain, it took about 5 days, Had to disassemble my timing chain cover and clean up the new gasket and cover was a brand new one, I first attempted to just use the new gasket and new cover without the RTV silicone but after torquing all blots to spec filled with oil, ran the vehicle for about ten minutes the gasket started leaking . So took it all apart cleaned it up and reassembled using blue RTV gasket silicone on both sides of the gasket, reassembled it let it cure for 30 hours, they recommended 24 hours, filled it up with oil, Now no leaks engine fired up and runs and sounds great. Only issue now is engine light is staying on. Code reader says crank position is off. All my timing marks were lined up for both the timing chain and balance chain. Any suggestions on this.
@@OldSoulMillennialP0016 and P0017. I took it all apart for a second time and reinstalled everything per your video. And this time no codes, no leaks, running like new, Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video, saved me a lot of money.
I've seen several similar videos,yours has the balance chain replacement included. I wonder why the water pump isn't also replaced when going this far into the job? The only other thing I would add would be assemby lube to the chain and tensioners. I may have a job like this in my near future. Thanks for sharing.
Surprised you didnt do the water pump while you were right there😵💫 i have to do my wifes terrain. Not looking forward to it. But seems straight forward and easier than doing an audi timing chain. What really threw me off was the timing chain marks not aligned on the oem chain. I dont think it skipped tooth on timing but something definitely strange. In the future if you could call out tool sizes as you use them that would be fantastic. Anyway thanks for posting!
I understand the two camshaft bolts require replacement. Single use only... Or "torque to yield"... But doesnt this also apply yo the main crankshaft bolt ?
I do not recall unfortunately. I know it's a larger size. You should be able to purchase a kit and check the plug on the side of the block before you tackle this job.
@@OldSoulMillennial also wanted to ask have you had any other troubles since you replaced the timing chain? My timing chain kit arrives in the mail this weekend and I just wanted to make sure I didn’t overlook anything
@@trollseasoning1012 Zero Issues with the repair. I highly recommend you do the timing chain and balance shaft chain. Stick with OEM. I've read many horror stories of the aftermarket chains breaking. I have links to oem components in the description.
Stop around 22:50. I don't think you are suppose to turn the crank after you take the timing chain off. Isn't this an INTERFERENCE ENGINE???? I think you should have rotated the other sprockets (water pump and stationary sprocket) to along to the crankshaft mark. I will watch to the end to see if this engine starts. 🤞
onatiming belt job i would have replaced that partno matter what , unless it was recently done . but to each their own . thanks for sharing your expertise
I have a question you first set it up the black mark was perfect inside the Groove then when you turned it 3 full times it was one link off that Groove at 35:30 into the video so it was like it was before you started the job. Why is that? Is that ok?
This is normal. I’ve learned that the engine does this intentionally to ensure that the chain and sprockets wear evenly. The chain will not line up with its respective marks every rotation. As long as you are 100% sure that when you installed the chain all the marks lined up properly, you should be good to go.
So you can move the crank once you take the timing chain off??? I moved mine clock wise until the timing marks lined up after I already took off the main timing I’m talking about the balance shaft chain
I figured it out but nope I got it all good didn’t bend anything and it’s funny u find a question hilarious and yes I can turn the crank without the timing chain on shows how much u kno about a 2.4 ecotec it’s cool tho good thing I figured it out myself
Of course you can turn the stuff, how else are you going to get it to line up, just don't try turning it more than a couple teeth. Just make sure all the marks line up when you are done
Great video sir i have a question after installing the timing and balance chains when rotating the engine manually there's a spot where it gets a little harder to turn then there's a popping sound not that loud but it seems to be a valve the exhaust is at the 7 o clock postition and and the intake at 2pm at tdc so i doubt there's something mistimed but i may be wrong
Resistance is normal. That resistance you feel is the camshaft lobes opening valves. So long as you have the chain timed properly on those timing marks, you should be good to go. If you are not confident about the timing, take the chain off and start over. If you hear a metal on metal sound, or the engine is binding, then that would be a problem.
I just replaced the tensioner but didn't tap it to "activate" it. There were so many back and forth comments online with no clear answer on whether it will activate itself or you have to manually activate it. Of course I didn't see this video until the job was done. The car sounds exactly the same as it did before with the quick rattle on startup. I honestly have no idea if it activated or not.
The tensioner must be manually activated. It is possible it deployed, however if you are still getting that rattle, chances are it didn't activate. I would pull the head, and check the timing chain tension. Did you also replace the balance shaft chain? That was the main rattle noise on this car. If you look through the video, it was hitting the case.
Got same thing going on and just drained oil and it's silver ..... so is that from timing chain eating everything and gear being bad or do I got bigger issues?
When doing this job, use good quality replacement new parts (e.g.Cloyes or similar). However, the black LH chain guide can be totally disregarded & replaced with a much stronger item as used on racing engines, which is obtainable on-line from 2 suppliers in the US. Their much superior & stronger 6mm dia. guide fixing bolts should also be used throughout. When installing the 2 chain tensioners, prime with oil beforehand, also the VVT sprockets internally. When replacing the valve cover, remove all the OEM 8.8 bolts & replace with 10.9 rated strength bolts or better still 12.9. Use SHELL synthetic 5W-30 Helix Ultra Professional engine oil and change with filter (best being from MANN or Bosch) after 2,000km. Check valve timing chain top (upper) guide after 30,000km for wear. Change valve cover oil filler cap for a new AC Delco FC219 type with blow-off valve incorporated. Job done.
I’m about to mine for the second time it only has 60,000 miles but out of gm warranty I didn’t have the timing right it’s off by a tooth I think how u did it will help me get it timed right Ty
@@DrtERotinBasstrd Yes, the timing marks on the balance shaft really matter. Balance shafts are used in piston engines to reduce vibration by cancelling out unbalanced dynamic forces.
@OldSoulMillennial by chance do you have a link to buy new ones. Oem or aftermarket you recommend. I would rather spend the extra and not have to worry about it
@@vossenconcave8571 You aren’t making much sense. The water pump is on the balance shaft chain. The timing chain is connected to the camshafts. Both chains are timed. I explained everything very clearly in the video.
Wondering as every kit including yours has a timing gear oiler. I didn’t see anything in this video, what do you use this for or does it get placed somewhere not shown in the video? Thanks again for the video as this is very helpful.
Great question. I did replace the oiler, but I forgot to video the replacement. I believe its bolt off, bolt on. You can't miss it once you disassemble everything. Very simple. I believe its purpose is to direct engine oil directly on the chain. Really, it's just like an oil guide chute.
Ні. thank you for video. I am considering GMC Terrain 2.4 as my next car. 90% of cars with mileage of 140-180 thousand kilometers. Now I understand that cars up to 200 thousand have a native timing chain. What to do when buying such a car? Immediately replace this spare part? Should I wait for the absence of symptoms? And how much does such work cost from a professional mechanic? In general, I am surprised that there is a chain in the engine of a modern car like in my bicycle.
I would avoid the GMC Terrain 2.4 if possible. The 2.4 likes to burn oil, and thus, the pcv system gets clogged regularly. I believe the oil consumption is due to crummy piston rings (causing excessive blow by). Subscribers have reported that a replacement timing chain may cost between 1400-3400 USD depending on the mechanic. Also depends if you replace the balance shaft chain. Both chains should be replaced every 100-120 Thousand miles. In short, unless you are mechanically inclined and intend to do your own repairs and maintenance, A used high mileage 2.4 Terrain will likely be problematic and expensive to maintain.
@@OldSoulMillennial Agree with all that you said. I have a 2011 Chevy Equinox that uses lots of oil, clogged pcv system blew out rear main seal, and has ruined the cat because of all the oil blow-by, cracked exhaust manifold, etc. So yes, I would advise avoiding that 2.4L engine like the plague.
Did you forget to use 'clear flood mode' to prime the engine before start-up? All those lifters, bearings, etc. needed pre-lube. CFM should be used if vehicle isn't used for several days or so, regardless of new chains, etc.
CFM can be accomplished by holding your foot to the floor while cranking but this is totally unnecessary all the other components he's referencing to you did not touch there is still residue oil left over on them. In clear flood mode would not give you enough oil pressure and distribution to lube all them Parts anyways
Can this be the cause of a random missfire. Since every other part is replaced. We have all new 02. Injectors coils plugs. Throttle body high pressure fuel pump mas map
@@Texan1 Do you have live data on your scan tool? If not, I’d start by swapping the spark plug and coil from the misfiring cylinder with a good cylinder. You can also do a compression test on the faulty cylinder.
Those chains not coming back to the same tooth is by design. Every manufacturer does it so that any wear is spread out. Say a tooth on sprocket was shaped different than the rest and the chain hit that link every time it would make for quick wear on one link. By design wear is spread out. To tell if you're in the right spot count the links between the marks
Hard to say, as filming triples the time of a job. I would guess if you work nonstop, you could complete this in a day. Best to take your time and plan on 2 days.
🚩 Don't cheap out on this Job! Use OEM Components!!! Links to OEM parts in the description above. 🚩
But it WAS the OEM components that failed in the first place. Why not give another company a shot? Should go with a name brand, though...
Look at some of the reviews of aftermarket chains. I've read some horror stories of aftermarket chains breaking. OEM lasted 140k Miles without breaking. Do what you want @@imgonnagogetthepapersgetth8347
@@OldSoulMillennial 140k is nothing to be impressed with. Timing belts can go 100k easily. Chains ought to last 300k.
OE brake pads even go 140. Some people are so ungrateful anymore. Used to be lucky if the whole car made it to 100
@@zimmermanlandscape9287 Why were we lucky if they made 100,000 miles? Because they were poorly made with poor parts right at the factory. That was my point about oem parts. That's not all-encompassing, of course.
Used this as a guide on a 15 Equinox with just under 92k starting to make the noise already-turns out the chain was stretched and rubbing the top of the valve cover. This is probably the best video explaining this process without an engine hoist, and your explanation of top-dead-center actually made a lot of sense. All in all it took me about 10 hours start to finish but it already runs so much better that it ever had before.
I have a 15 equinox LT 206k and I want to replace the timing chain and possibly the balance shaft chain. Any tips, tools or advice you could share.
This video is a 10/10 man. Got the exact same engine. Figured I'd throw 200 at it myself instead of 2500 to a shop. Appreciate it.
I'm not sure why you found it necessary to take out the engine mount. The top 2 bolts were kinda 'hard' to get to on the timing chain cover, but managed after some time.
Even if I spend three days on it it’s still saving me 85 for every hour
11/10
just kidding; I ended up taking out the engine mount to make installation easier.. was worth the 2 minutes for 5 bolts and a floorjack...
@@RyanNelson404 it seems like you could trim the timing cover gasket before installation in order to avoid removing that other thing from the block
I did my timing chain, water pump chain, sprocket's, guides, cam sprockets, gaskets ect.... I have seen a lot of texts people have left saying they tried to change theirs and were not able to get it running again. One problem people run into is they don't have they're cams set properly they put it back together and they get valve interference with the pistons and valves ( motor will lock up) the way to avoid that is while standing on the passengers side of car look at the first cam lobe on the front of engine (intake) make sure the lobe is at five o clock then look at the first back cam lobe make sure it is at seven o clock if you have your lobes at these points and your number one cylinder is set at top dead center you are good to go to re assemble your timing chain and will not get any interference. Buy a good kit cloyes is a good brand make sure all of your timing chain slack is all on the left side so your chain will be tight when you install and trigger your chain tensioner. Put a cloth over your gap where the oil pan is open so you don't drop any bolts or parts down in your pan.
Just wanted to say that I have the exact same vehicle, and one of the black guide bolts worked its way loose and wreaked havoc inside the timing cover and snapped the cam timing chain. The kits was about $115 off of Amazon and I was able to replace EVERYTHING and re-time it all thanks to your video. Your instructions are spot on. It runs so smooth and quiet now. Purring like a kitten. Thanks man! A fantastic tutorial. Took me about 12 hours, start to finish. I did not have to remove the engine mount. I was able to get that top bolt with a 10mm 'ratchet style' box end Stanley wrench. Just a great tutorial, I can't thank you enough. Top quality. Keep em coming!
Glad this video helped!
Cowboyup I was wonder what the kit number that had everything Thanks
i had the same thing happen. except the black guide came out in 3 pieces this video saved me a crap load of money.
Is the oil have to be drain?
@@buscojosenjuarezdenuevoleo9669 yes, you'll need to drain the oil because you have to remove the entire oil pan. (13mm socket) And be sure to clean it of any debris. Including the oil pickup tube inside the pan. (10mm socket) So make sure you have some Permatex gasket maker or equivalent, since there is no manufactured gasket for this engine's oil pan. Put in new oil and filter after reassembling and before starting the engine again.
This video is excellent, it makes this pain in the rear end of a job so much easier. Thank you for taking the time to make it and share it with the world.
Honestly could not be doing the job without this video.
Kindness is a weakness to the indecent but virtuous to the decent thank you for being among our most decent. Nice work. My wife just bought one similar. Drove to Nebraska from Colorado and back. Next day that dreaded sound. I love working on vehicles and did it back in 1980 in my 20s professionally for a few years. My body today don’t like to get in all those uncomfortable positions but I’ll do it. Your video is perfect. Bravo sir. Those engines look pretty dirty now a days.
I have the same GMC Terrain Vehicle and at 109,000 miles I started hearing a noise near the timing chain. I took it into a shop and they stated im better getting a used engine for $1,500 to $2,000. So I decided to do it myself. I had removed the items in your vehicle and saw that the timing chain was lose as expected. I purchased the items on your video and did it myself making sure I did not miss a step from your video. It took 10 to 12 hours. The vehicle is running like a new vehicle and no oil leak anywhere and sounds like a new vehicle. Great Job!! and Thanks for the video.
I just did this myself on my 2017 Terrain. This video was my source of info to do it. Thank you. Took me a little over 6 hours.
Can I pay you to do mines?
This video was amazing, used this when I replaced my wife's timing chain on her 2013 Terrain. Thank you for this excellent video, made my life a whole lot easier. Thank you.
Just a FYI, this was easily a $1200-$1500 repair. You did great.
gmc delaership just quoted me 3300 lolol get out of here
If your only paying 1500 for this job , RUN!
This is a detailed job and not to be rushed through by some non tax paying mechanic!
With timing kit, water pump, gaskets, spark plugs, warranty , 3200 bucks easy.
@@Rccrdawgs not true, my guy said 1400. It would probably take him 4 hours and he's legit.. works in a shop during their after hours and takes in his own customers.
I charge 2,600 with parts and labor I also include the water pump
@bulltor3583 yeah, he did say he isn't touching that unless he needed to
Great video... for those who are having trouble aligning the exhaust cam key at,, 27:51 he explained, but if you have doubts with that method there is another method.... So all timing marks should be aligned with the crank shaft key at 12. With marked timing chain link on exhaust cam place sprocket on cam(do not tighten) turn crank shaft (looking at bottom mark witch is 6oclock to about the 7oclock mark. If your look at the top key it will be another the 1oclocl... Then take a 24mm or 15/16 wrench against intake cam and rotate counter clockwise also while rotating exhaust cam sprocket counter clockwise until the exhaust sprocket key meets up with the exhaust lock. It may take a few times but it always works for me... hope that it works for you..
Good job, feels good doing things on your own.
I have the same vehicle and I’m going through this now I’ve changed the top timing chain but didn’t do the water pump one. Put everything back started then second later ….off, imma just doing all the timing and follow your video. No one else did a video on the terrain timing chain but you. Very well made video bro this will help me out a lot.
Thanks for the comment. Lmk if you have any questions, I'll always do the best I can to help the people that watch my videos.
Also Make sure that you replace the guides and tensioners. Don't cheap out on parts here. It's BEST to use OEM parts. Cost me around 300 bucks for All OEM components. I've read so many horror stories of people having aftermarket chains break.
Thanks for the informative video. I have a feeling I'll be doing the same job on my wife's Equinox soon. And props to your wife-to-be/wife for hanging in there while the car was being worked on.
Your a good mechanic my friend. Its always nice to talk to someone whos been there and done that. In this case you capture those little things that someone doing it for the first time would have to figure out on their own, you know, things like how to hold your tongue the right way to get to a bolt or locating that bolt you cant see but can only feel ( The Houdini bolt ). Thanks for posting, I'm sure your video will save me a couple hours time as I'm getting ready to tackle this job myself.
Thank you. I hope you keep making videos like this. I am glad there are people like you out there
This video helps me a lot especially dealing with professional who fixes Jones like this
Just did this job. Your video helped me tremendously! Thanks for putting it out here!
@@joeb6010 Nice job! Just identified that mine has a cracked exhaust manifold now. Gonna make a repair video on that in the new future
good morning brother good video you helped me fix my wife's car I did everything for this video and I am grateful blessings and happy new year
Great video, one of,if not the most detailed video I’ve seen on a 2.4 timing job. Just did the same job on my 2012 Equinox yesterday. Great job bro.. you earned a like, and subscription 🎉
Thank you for the extreme informative video. Timing chain jobs can be very nerve racking. You gave the understanding that is exactly what’s going on with my 2015 GMC Terrain sle awd
Well done ! Thank you made my job so easy
Excellent tutorial! I'll buy your old soul description.
Grateful for you. You really helped me out 🙏🏾
Just did this job and could not get the left housing bolt closest to the block started without some modifications. 1st and foremost the geniuses that designed the 2012 2.4 Terrain SLE wrapped a coolant pipe around the block obstructing most any access to the bolt head. While my 1/4 drive either 3 extensions and the narrowest socket I could find helped get the bolt out...getting the bolt to start for reassembly was a mofo. To get to it I removed the left front wheel, the left side transaxle dirt covet and jacked it up and supported it about 2 ft off the ground. From here I could reach in and finger tight the left housing bolt which I ran thru a metric die to clean up the threads. Once the bolt was started a few turns then I went back to the 1/4 drive either extensions from the top side and alternated between the 2 bolts until together. I followed closing off the top heater core pipe, but still had to burp it for 40 mins to get a steady temp. Also the radiator petcock wanted to drip and took some back and forth and in and out pushing to get the right place to stop drain flow. Par for course for working on a GMC Terrain.
I was going to attempt this myself but, i dont have a garage. Plus i dont trust doing something ive never done. Thank you for this video, if i HAVE to do it myself. This will be the video i watch and if you dont mind ill put your link below!
This video is outstanding!!!! Thank you for taking the time to explain everything clearly. You made a pain in the ass job a lot easier for me :-)!!!!
great demonstration I have to do this in the near future very well presented thanks
Thanks for the comment George. Just make sure that all those timing marks line up. It seems like a complex and intimidating job, but it's really not that bad.
Also. You can see when he is in there. There is a sliver of head gasket hanging out that is crazy sharp. Save yourself the hassle and make sure not to force any bolts out and your ratchet slip. Trip to the ER cost me more than the repair.
Yep I did the same thing. I decided to cover it with a rag
Very well done video with good details. I have a 2010 equinox 2.4L with the exact same issue so this is a real help.
Subscribed off of this video alone. Please do more car videos like this.
By any chance, to you remember the torque specs on the crankshaft pulley bolt, as well as the valves cover bolt torque specs? By the way, I was able to do these same repairs with ease because of your video. Most detailed video out there! Besides the cutting the video short!
I love your video. You was real detail and I always will subscribe to you. You taught me how to do a time and change job on a 2013 GMC terrain thank you so very much.
Should I be hearing a popping sound when I hand crank the motor to cylinder #1. The chain broke all the guides and jumped time/ tooth. Could there be a bent valve.???
When you spun the crank to do the balance chain won’t hit the valves?Great video I’ve done these before and always watch videos just to be sure
THIS IS AN AWESOME DIY VIDEO...VERY INFORMATIVE AND WASN'T RUSHED! IM MECHANICALLY INCLINED BUT HAVE BEEN DOUBTING MYSELF ABOUT IT.....THIS INSPIRED ME!
Super. Love the video. Excellent explaination
This video helped me tremendously. Thanks a lot.
I understand it's a job, and I added replacement of the water pump, which is a good time to do it being the timing component were off.
I'm just wondering how long is the bolt for the long tensioner guide rail? I'm trying to make sure I'm using the right one on install
Great job just used your vid for help thru doin a 2010 equinox 2.4l ecotec
Did you change the oil pump while you had everything off? did you check the oil pan to see if any debris was in oil pick up screen?
Check for any broken or missing components, they will end up in the oil pan. The oil pump seldom fails and is easily replaced.
Thank you bro this is a great video we’ll explain and I’m about to start doing my truck ❤
Awesome video! Great job!!
@@los507187 Thank you!
Awesome video, I did it without removing the motor mount, you just ha e to get that top 10mm bolt with a skinny ratchet from the top above the alternator :)
I used a 1” extension and a shallow well
Timing cover gasket can be clipped to get around the mount
Are the step the same for a v6 3.0? Looks like the engine placement os different from the 2.4l
Awesome job, it's good to help your self, I do my own mechanic job on my car too
I just done this job on my wife’s 2017 GMC terrain, it took about 5 days, Had to disassemble my timing chain cover and clean up the new gasket and cover was a brand new one, I first attempted to just use the new gasket and new cover without the RTV silicone but after torquing all blots to spec filled with oil, ran the vehicle for about ten minutes the gasket started leaking . So took it all apart cleaned it up and reassembled using blue RTV gasket silicone on both sides of the gasket, reassembled it let it cure for 30 hours, they recommended 24 hours, filled it up with oil, Now no leaks engine fired up and runs and sounds great. Only issue now is engine light is staying on. Code reader says crank position is off. All my timing marks were lined up for both the timing chain and balance chain. Any suggestions on this.
What is the exact code.
@@OldSoulMillennialP0016 and P0017. I took it all apart for a second time and reinstalled everything per your video. And this time no codes, no leaks, running like new, Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video, saved me a lot of money.
@@OldSoulMillennialI also used parts I ordered from Amazon , I was little nervous buying their parts but they do seem like decent quality.
I've seen several similar videos,yours has the balance chain replacement included. I wonder why the water pump isn't also replaced when going this far into the job? The only other thing I would add would be assemby lube to the chain and tensioners. I may have a job like this in my near future. Thanks for sharing.
I've done a couple of these jobs I'm not sure why you would be needing assembly Lube for the chain and tensioners.
Surprised you didnt do the water pump while you were right there😵💫 i have to do my wifes terrain. Not looking forward to it. But seems straight forward and easier than doing an audi timing chain. What really threw me off was the timing chain marks not aligned on the oem chain. I dont think it skipped tooth on timing but something definitely strange. In the future if you could call out tool sizes as you use them that would be fantastic. Anyway thanks for posting!
I understand the two camshaft bolts require replacement. Single use only... Or "torque to yield"... But doesnt this also apply yo the main crankshaft bolt ?
Thank you for this video! Bout to change the chain on my 2013 gmc terrain. Wish me luck 😅😅😅
How it go?
It went well! 3 months later and it’s running great.
My pulleys for the balancing chain don't have any markings on them. What do i do
Does anybody know the size of the Allen wrench needed to remove upper guide as seen in the video at 19:44
I do not recall unfortunately. I know it's a larger size. You should be able to purchase a kit and check the plug on the side of the block before you tackle this job.
@@OldSoulMillennial okay because I got a 3/8 Allen wrench that fits the plug but I just wanted to double check if it was the correct size. Thanks man
@@OldSoulMillennial also wanted to ask have you had any other troubles since you replaced the timing chain? My timing chain kit arrives in the mail this weekend and I just wanted to make sure I didn’t overlook anything
@@trollseasoning1012 Zero Issues with the repair. I highly recommend you do the timing chain and balance shaft chain. Stick with OEM. I've read many horror stories of the aftermarket chains breaking. I have links to oem components in the description.
@@OldSoulMillennialif I can’t rotate my crankshaft more than 180 degrees does it mean I have bent valves?
Stop around 22:50. I don't think you are suppose to turn the crank after you take the timing chain off. Isn't this an INTERFERENCE ENGINE???? I think you should have rotated the other sprockets (water pump and stationary sprocket) to along to the crankshaft mark. I will watch to the end to see if this engine starts. 🤞
onatiming belt job i would have replaced that partno matter what , unless it was recently done . but to each their own . thanks for sharing your expertise
Is the wheel on the crank for the balance chain going to be facing straight down too
great video, I have terrain 2010, is the chain the same? You have 2014
Do the v6 models have the same problems .? Are they more reliable.?.. looking at mabe buying one but don’t really want the eco tech model
I have a question you first set it up the black mark was perfect inside the Groove then when you turned it 3 full times it was one link off that Groove at 35:30 into the video so it was like it was before you started the job. Why is that? Is that ok?
This is normal. I’ve learned that the engine does this intentionally to ensure that the chain and sprockets wear evenly. The chain will not line up with its respective marks every rotation. As long as you are 100% sure that when you installed the chain all the marks lined up properly, you should be good to go.
@@OldSoulMillennial ok thank you
So you can move the crank once you take the timing chain off??? I moved mine clock wise until the timing marks lined up after I already took off the main timing I’m talking about the balance shaft chain
I feel like I messed something up because I rotated the crank clockwise to line up the second chain marks is what I’m basically getting at
Omg U never turn crank with timing chain off he's lucky
He didn't bend valves
I figured it out but nope I got it all good didn’t bend anything and it’s funny u find a question hilarious and yes I can turn the crank without the timing chain on shows how much u kno about a 2.4 ecotec it’s cool tho good thing I figured it out myself
So you can or can’t on this engine
Of course you can turn the stuff, how else are you going to get it to line up, just don't try turning it more than a couple teeth. Just make sure all the marks line up when you are done
Thank you so much for a really helpful video
Great video sir i have a question after installing the timing and balance chains when rotating the engine manually there's a spot where it gets a little harder to turn then there's a popping sound not that loud but it seems to be a valve the exhaust is at the 7 o clock postition and and the intake at 2pm at tdc so i doubt there's something mistimed but i may be wrong
Resistance is normal. That resistance you feel is the camshaft lobes opening valves. So long as you have the chain timed properly on those timing marks, you should be good to go.
If you are not confident about the timing, take the chain off and start over.
If you hear a metal on metal sound, or the engine is binding, then that would be a problem.
I just replaced the tensioner but didn't tap it to "activate" it. There were so many back and forth comments online with no clear answer on whether it will activate itself or you have to manually activate it. Of course I didn't see this video until the job was done. The car sounds exactly the same as it did before with the quick rattle on startup. I honestly have no idea if it activated or not.
The tensioner must be manually activated. It is possible it deployed, however if you are still getting that rattle, chances are it didn't activate. I would pull the head, and check the timing chain tension.
Did you also replace the balance shaft chain? That was the main rattle noise on this car. If you look through the video, it was hitting the case.
Got same thing going on and just drained oil and it's silver ..... so is that from timing chain eating everything and gear being bad or do I got bigger issues?
Doesn't sound good
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If you were already at TDC why would you rotate the crankshaft for the balance chain?
@@funshine3571 If I recall correctly: Camshaft can rotate independently without damage. Try not to rotate the balance shaft sprockets.
When doing this job, use good quality replacement new parts (e.g.Cloyes or similar). However, the black LH chain guide can be totally disregarded & replaced with a much stronger item as used on racing engines, which is obtainable on-line from 2 suppliers in the US. Their much superior & stronger 6mm dia. guide fixing bolts should also be used throughout. When installing the 2 chain tensioners, prime with oil beforehand, also the VVT sprockets internally. When replacing the valve cover, remove all the OEM 8.8 bolts & replace with 10.9 rated strength bolts or better still 12.9. Use SHELL synthetic 5W-30 Helix Ultra Professional engine oil and change with filter (best being from MANN or Bosch) after 2,000km. Check valve timing chain top (upper) guide after 30,000km for wear. Change valve cover oil filler cap for a new AC Delco FC219 type with blow-off valve incorporated. Job done.
I’m about to mine for the second time it only has 60,000 miles but out of gm warranty I didn’t have the timing right it’s off by a tooth I think how u did it will help me get it timed right Ty
Great 👍 thanks for your valuable time
Is this fhe same sequence as the chevy 2013 equinox?
Does the timing marks on the balance shaft chain really matter? If so what are they?
@@DrtERotinBasstrd Yes, the timing marks on the balance shaft really matter. Balance shafts are used in piston engines to reduce vibration by cancelling out unbalanced dynamic forces.
@@OldSoulMillennial 11 5 5 then? as far as the timing marks?
Im late to this show. Do you recommend replacing the cam sprockets?
@@tyuiop1736 If it’s worn, yes. Mine was in good condition, so I just reused it.
@OldSoulMillennial by chance do you have a link to buy new ones. Oem or aftermarket you recommend. I would rather spend the extra and not have to worry about it
So after you timed the cams you have to time the smaller chain thats on the pump
@@vossenconcave8571 balance shaft chain gets installed and timed first
@@OldSoulMillennial we timed the cams then we did wat was done in the video we turned it to wear it shows to put the chain wear the pump goes
@@vossenconcave8571 You aren’t making much sense. The water pump is on the balance shaft chain. The timing chain is connected to the camshafts. Both chains are timed. I explained everything very clearly in the video.
@@OldSoulMillennial ok my question is if you timed it at firat why did you spin the lower chain again was it to time the sprockets
@@vossenconcave8571 Seems like there is a language barrier here. I’m having difficulty understanding your question. Please try asking again in detail.
CAN I REPLACE A 4 cylinder EQUINOX with a V6 ENGINE?
Great job,congrats
Exelente explicación gracias saludos
Excellent Job bro
Wondering as every kit including yours has a timing gear oiler. I didn’t see anything in this video, what do you use this for or does it get placed somewhere not shown in the video? Thanks again for the video as this is very helpful.
Great question. I did replace the oiler, but I forgot to video the replacement. I believe its bolt off, bolt on. You can't miss it once you disassemble everything. Very simple.
I believe its purpose is to direct engine oil directly on the chain. Really, it's just like an oil guide chute.
My terrain needs this at only 120,000 and I’m debating if it’s even worth fixing
Do you have tools? Do it yourself. Or expect to pay 1500-3000
Thanks, very informative.
Ні. thank you for video.
I am considering GMC Terrain 2.4 as my next car. 90% of cars with mileage of 140-180 thousand kilometers. Now I understand that cars up to 200 thousand have a native timing chain. What to do when buying such a car? Immediately replace this spare part? Should I wait for the absence of symptoms? And how much does such work cost from a professional mechanic? In general, I am surprised that there is a chain in the engine of a modern car like in my bicycle.
I would avoid the GMC Terrain 2.4 if possible. The 2.4 likes to burn oil, and thus, the pcv system gets clogged regularly. I believe the oil consumption is due to crummy piston rings (causing excessive blow by).
Subscribers have reported that a replacement timing chain may cost between 1400-3400 USD depending on the mechanic. Also depends if you replace the balance shaft chain. Both chains should be replaced every 100-120 Thousand miles.
In short, unless you are mechanically inclined and intend to do your own repairs and maintenance, A used high mileage 2.4 Terrain will likely be problematic and expensive to maintain.
@@OldSoulMillennial Thanks ❤️
@@OldSoulMillennial Agree with all that you said. I have a 2011 Chevy Equinox that uses lots of oil, clogged pcv system blew out rear main seal, and has ruined the cat because of all the oil blow-by, cracked exhaust manifold, etc. So yes, I would advise avoiding that 2.4L engine like the plague.
You are awesome thank you am about do my first time
You are right, Thank you, bro👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏👏
Have you had any issues since doing this?
@@bfnfedboy2 I put on about 5 pounds.
How to fix timing chain and timing gear doesn't come back again where i did set up? What the problem?
Re do it
Yes. I did re do it. And only hear the engine turning but won't fine. Is crank ok. Won't start.????
Did you forget to use 'clear flood mode' to prime the engine before start-up?
All those lifters, bearings, etc. needed pre-lube.
CFM should be used if vehicle isn't used for several days or so, regardless of new chains, etc.
Please inform us on how to activate this "Clear flood mode"
CFM can be accomplished by holding your foot to the floor while cranking but this is totally unnecessary all the other components he's referencing to you did not touch there is still residue oil left over on them. In clear flood mode would not give you enough oil pressure and distribution to lube all them Parts anyways
thats a $3000 + job in a dealership... nice job!
Anyone know what size that Allen bolt is
10mm
Is this the same as a 2010 Equinox?
Thank you
No idea.
Can this be the cause of a random missfire. Since every other part is replaced. We have all new 02. Injectors coils plugs. Throttle body high pressure fuel pump mas map
@@Texan1 Did you read your engine codes?
@@OldSoulMillennial only got a p0300 now
@@Texan1 Do you have live data on your scan tool? If not, I’d start by swapping the spark plug and coil from the misfiring cylinder with a good cylinder. You can also do a compression test on the faulty cylinder.
@@OldSoulMillennial With random I'm not able to see which cylinder is misfiring and it has good compression
@@Texan1 Any other symptoms or electrical issues? Are there any soft codes?
A basic code reader only gives you active hard codes.
Those chains not coming back to the same tooth is by design. Every manufacturer does it so that any wear is spread out. Say a tooth on sprocket was shaped different than the rest and the chain hit that link every time it would make for quick wear on one link. By design wear is spread out. To tell if you're in the right spot count the links between the marks
Thank you for explaining this!
Very information thanks
Up next… the cracked exhaust manifold! Lol… that jobs a bear too.
That's cool thank you
How many hours total do you think it took?
Hard to say, as filming triples the time of a job. I would guess if you work nonstop, you could complete this in a day. Best to take your time and plan on 2 days.
do i not need any kind of pulley puller?
I didn't Use one. The crankshaft pulley may fight you a little bit, but you should be able to remove it with a little elbow grease,
Well i think at this time fellas i can consider my self as a Mechanic...SIKE! im watching this hoping i can spent like 1500 plus...wish me luck!
Why you did not disconnect the battery in the first place?