My 13 year old granddaughter last summer found this to be much to her liking and absolutely riddled every paper target put in front of her. She especially found the 30 round mags delightful...
problem is most affordable guns are boring and don't do anything special. they're ass to shoot and the only reason to do a video on them is to sell them.
Holy crap, Colion covering something affordable?! I'm glad to see the trend start to break. Gucci guns are cool, but im not gonna be able to afford them any time soon.
In my years I've found the middle tier of everything is where I'm comfortable. Whether it's guns, guitars, cars, or anything else, there's a ceiling you hit where returns diminish and the item becomes a vanity piece. Of course I'd buy something full auto if I could afford it, but that's a whole other can of worms where you're not even getting master craftsmanship haha
I have one of these, it is extremely “fun”. It would be the last weapon I grabbed from my safe to defend unless I had too. (I have plenty of other options to choose). I bought it for the nostalgia honestly. It is a huge conversation starter and when we visit outdoor ranges the guys always want to take it for a spin. It does scare the shit out of RSO’s though. They automatically assume it’s full auto and we came to spray some shit up.
I remember the Mac10s from the late 70s when I was a cop. They were only $200 , friend had one, couldn’t hit anything with it. But, could spray a lot of rounds down range. Hard to be believe it came back. Thanks for the video and a trip down memory lane. 😊👍
I don't like cops much because of how inner city from small to big city task an some street cops that are bad cops are pos. cats. Not everyone black white or yellow is a fuck up. I have hatred for aone stuff that went down an think they should be put through more stuff like boot camp almost with that kind of power but I am also an adult with respect an I thank you for your service, for sure. It's not an easy job. Appreciate you. To be a cop in Little Rock or Chicago, Miami would be very tough. Blessings
I have two of the MPA Defenders. I have the full sized and the 'Micro', both chambered in 9mm, and you are correct! They are fun to shoot. Not the most accurate unless you learn the 'fixed' sights and do a bit of 'tapping' them into zero. I like the counter balancers, because they eliminate a lot of rise when you fire a round downrange. You should practice 'Bump firing' them and sending them into burst or full auto mode. It's really easy to do with the MPA Defender, and I enjoy doing it at least once while on the range.
No lies told, this thing was the iconic staple to replace .... the Uzi. Kids today look at the MP7 with glossy eyes. Kids that existed before CoD remember the mac10
It actually doesn't look natural when you shoot it how a trained marksmanship would shoot it. It's a gun that is legendary to the streets. Throwing a stock on it would make it more practical, in my opinion.
I bought one about a decade ago. Back then you could get a 10-pack of Sten Mags for $80. Well worth it, and much more reliable than those plastic mags it comes with.
Now go for a folding vertical grip. You know it needs it. Could also put a small light in front of the red dot. Baldr, TLRs, Inforce, would all look good. Put the dot on a riser tho, Monstrum is excellent and cheap.
We had a class 3 m11 in the 90s. Took nice cheap sten gun mags. Spring and buffer replaced to get it up to 1400rpm. Actually near 100% reliable. And it was decently accurate because, being class 3, you could put the wire stock on it. Instead of one round per trigger pull, it was definitely one mag per trigger pull.
@@triggamanq4198 it's a vibe and cheap but not not back in the day cheap just saying I'm 41 205 pisces black alpha Male Birmingham Alabama home of the civil rights movement
Here's some info for someone thinking about getting this firearm. The MPA30T will not feed JHP reliably, but you can use other types of defensive ammunition; I have used soft point ammo as well as the G9 Defense External Hollow Point ammo without any issues. You can use the metal STEN gun magazines with a small modification to the magazine themselves. They're a lot more reliable and, in my personal opinion, they make the gun look much better. Also, you can change the grip to use Glock mags if that's what you prefer. It is incredibly easy to bump-fire this firearm. Many people will say not to do this, but at some point or another, you won't be able to keep yourself from doing it.
It's more a Cobray MAC-11 (regret selling mine) than a MAC-10. MAC 10 has a shorter upper receiver back from the grip. Both are good in 9mm (10 also is in .45 & the 11 also is in .380). The MAC-11 in .380 looks more like a MAC-10. I need to get the side charging model from MPAA. Firing from closed bolt is way better in semi-auto IMO
yep, this is a Mac 11/9, not a mac 10 clone. I have a mac 11/9 and love it. With a lage upper receiver its as good as any other pdw out there. slows the rof to 600 which is easily managed and can even be single fired if you are careful. lots of fun and growing in value every day.
I own a full auto mac 10 in .45 acp and a mac 11 in .380. Those are fun! Not as much fun now as they were back in the 80s due to the price of ammo however. The mac 11 in particular spews .380 like a laser beam . While its crazy cool, its actually spewing $$$$$$$$$ downrange.
Yeah, it really sucks that they try to have us quit shooting by raising the price of ammo so high!!!! I wonder if they want us to quit driving altogether as well since the price of gas is so astronomical after invading an oil rich country twice??? Oh and I forgot about the oil in the Ukraine making oil companies astronomical profits recently! It seems like they want everything to be really expensive so we can't afford anything and we just give up on it so they can move forward with their agenda! FJB
Yep, the mini version is cool too. Most reviews knock these clones, I don’t think they get it. They can be put in the category of practical, being that they are built like tanks for durability. Especially when they have Sten mags in them.
I bought one of these about 6 months ago to help fill out my 80's childhood movie fan stable and had the exact same reaction.... Took a bunch of shit from my buddies about it,... til I recorded them shooting it for the first time and without fail all got the same big cheesy shit eating grin of adolescent exuberance. Now every range day it's, "You bringing the Mac...?" Moral: If you buy one, make sure your friends bring their own ammo
I remember the 80s. The cool thing back then was to hold the gun sideways when firing. Targets were missed almost every time but plenty of innocent got shot.
I have to agree with you on this gun. It's price point, at $500.00'ish, fun factor, and cool looks made me jump on one last year. Everyone that sees it can't get enough of shooting it. Very fun shooter. Good breakdown on a low budget fun gun.
Lots of fun. The Glock mag conversion is worth the couple extra bucks. And mounting a red dot/light under helps with a bigger suppressor, since the sights are pretty much useless.
I love this gun!! Picked it up for $399 pre-COVID!!!!! Added a pistol brace, top laser (the more expensive model has the rail on the top with the cocking mechanism on the side) it’s a fun gun!!!
C'mon Colion. Just think Lethal Weapon, Die Hard, Miami Vice, Even the Bad Boys movies. I got one of these new clones last week. Haven't fired it yet, but no mistaking that silhouette. Thx for the video.
I like mine, 9mm, side charge, takes glock mags, different release lever and has a rail across the top. I added the short hand guard front piece which I like better than the original barrel. I have an raised/angled red dot. It is fun to shoot.
A classmate tried to sell me a MAC 11(.380 version of the MAC 10) for $200 in the parking lot of a strip mall in 1993. I refused because I got the feeling he was trying to get rid of either a stolen gun or one used in a crime. Since that day I've often thought I should've purchased it. Better safe than sorry but it would've be a fun range gun.
Lots of sketchy stuff like that going down in the 90's. Fully transferable machine guns still in circulation after the 86 ban, Shame what happens when the 2nd ammendment is infringed 😢.
@@johndecker9983 Ridiculous laws aimed at discouraging, harassing and arresting Americans that have a civil right to own whatever they can afford to own or manufacture.
I want one! Reminds me of an old Cobray M-11/9. They are stamped steel with crude sights, but surprisingly, they point shoot naturally for me. The mags they use aren't so great either, but when they work, they are fun to shoot. I wonder if this is the same design. Looks very similar.
I have the older mini one it has a super short trigger reset and shoots very fast it looks like it spent 30 years in the ghetto but its a pretty cool little gun
Mitch Werbell a Scottish soldier and mercenary along with an aeronautical engineer by the name of Ingram designed the MAC 9, 10 &11 as a small suppessd side arm. It was for covert and close personal protection ( re: embassy use)! The term BIG MAC ATTACK came from .45 caliber version. Single point sling under an over coat very concealable.
I recall reading that these small smgs like the mac 10/11 and uzis were well utilized in undercover operations or more interestingly hit and run assassinations while riding on the back of a motorcycle.
@@utubegeneric And of Russian descent, and didn't actually help design the MAC. Also, every movement is going to cause something with a lot of off-axis weight (like a 32rd box mag) to yaw around like crazy on a single point sling, which would make it the opposite of concealable.
ive had that same gun for over 3 yrs i saw it and wanted it cause its s mac 10 its an iconic weapon from my youth 600 bucks brand new and its still a blast to shoot and it turns heads whenever i pull it out in the range
Great. When I see Colion having that much fun shooting a gun, I just have to have it. Sigh. Now I'm an and a must-have. I did grow up in the 90s and that does look like a blast. It shall be mine. Thanks, Colion.
I have one, and it’s best shot from the hip, for real. After practice it’s totally intuitive, great for an Alamo gun. And it practically sprays in three- shot bursts. Its a decent machine pistol, and it throws the 9mm rounds pretty good.
Mac 11 9mm was the first that I came across, I fell in love right away with it, the Mac 12 in .380 I bought later just because it was little smaller and I love it as well, never picked up the 10 version, if I did I would have to get it in the 45 version. They are awesome guns to be able to just enjoy, glad you found them!
I have one of these that looks way more like the original then what is currently being made. It has, no finger grooves, a more blocky look, and a rough grey finish. I wish they still offered it like that
I've compared the two actually. I concur about the aesthetic, but the new ones do have much nicer sights that you can actually adjust, and the rear attachment points are pretty handy too. Did you know there's an even newer version that accepts Glock mags?
@@Blahblahblahninsense I have seen those but honestly I purchased this one purely for aesthetic reasons. For example, mine comes with a fake suppressor. If I could not find a model that looked exactly like something out of Grand theft Auto or a cheesy 90 movie, I would simply not be interested. It's the same reason I purchase a Mossberg 590 bullpup, so I could recreate RoboCop 2 lol
I put an old-school tapco vertical grip on the Pic rail to the bottom. Actually, it's pretty freaking comfy...now all I need is a side folding j-mac stock and a small t1 red dot for the rail on the top (I have the tactical side charging version).
I get it...I had the old Cobray M11s back in the day.. and was actually carried a suppressed MAC 10 .45acp for my tactics job.. but the M11 was just as fun and none of the "red tape" associated with thy MAC. I recently picked up a Defender and it's fantastic interpretation of the original MAC and very reasonably priced... Lots of gun fun to be had with this piece
$500 huh??? I bought a select fire MAC-10 in 85 brand new. The weapon and the Tax Stamp along with 2 cases of ammo cost me exactly $502.15 with sales tax included. MAN, how the times have changed. The select fire ones are REALLY fun to play with. Not the best accuracy, even on semiautomatic, but flip the switch and have a ball!!! Just have PLENTY of loaded magazines ready the cyclic rate is FAST!!! I have the original one I bought, then 2 months later the same.dealer had a 45acp version, that had to come home with me.
I've had my eye on one of these for a while so seeing your video might have just sold me on it. I totally get what you're saying about it just being a fun gun and accepting it for what it is, but I do think I'd have the most fun trying to turn it into a more serious-looking gun at the very least. Probably end up spending 2x what the gun is worth just trying to tac it out but it deserves that level of ridiculousness lol
Fun little toy, when it works. Had issues with mine jamming. Had to send it back to MPA for repairs. Ended up getting rid of it as I have little use for problematic firearms.
When I had a thing for the 5.7 round, I found MPA had this gun chambered in that round. It was relatively inexpensive as well. Thanks for reviewing this company!
Had any trouble with yours? Most people say no but have low round count. I had two of the five seven versions. Both broken in under a thousand rounds. I cant remember exactly what it was, maybe a factory pressed bushing or front trunnion, whatever it was I remember that I didn't want to try and fix it. Both guns same failure. I never abused them or bumpfiring, nothing like that. First one I thought maybe a lemon so I traded it in and got another, after the same problem with the second I traded it for the 9. Its too bad because it was really accurate with a red dot. So easy to blow the bullseye out. I just couldn't recommend the 5.7 version after that dual identical failure. Haven't had any trouble with the 9 tho.
I purchased my MAC-10 in the 80's for under $200. It's a fun gun for plinking, However I think that it's a great car gun. It's also really rugged and has that look about it. I was more into the MP5. I have a lased on it, but the MAC-10 is more of a bare bones enforcer.
The MAC 10 finally found it's niche as an electric airsoft SMG platform, still iconic and actually useable with 6mm plastic BB's. The MAC 11 airsoft variants actually have gas blow back of the open bolt that makes them really fun with co2 or propane propellant for the BB's. You can also still purchase a FA MAC 10 in .45 from a private seller but it takes a long time to get the licensing to legally own them and a good suppressor (Years of red tape tax stamps) ($10,000 package these days if not more) not to mention how expensive it is to actually run subsonic pistol ammo with the high rate of fire and finding a range that actually allows FA etc.
I'm so glad you did a review of this gun because my local shop has one and I gotta admit it's really cool looking but because it's so cheap I thought it probably doesn't work at all and most likely jams every other shot so 👍👍👍 awesome video 🤘 and thank you I'm gonna go pick it up 😂👍
It’s a POS. Feels cheap. Firing pin broke after about 25 rounds. Got a replacement from MPA. Broke again after 8 rounds. I just shipped it back to them for “repairs”.
I bought one of these in 5.7mm years ago and it was the most dangerous POS ive ever owned. I sent it back to masterpiece arms twice and they never fixed it. It would regularly push the bullet back into the cartridge or just snap the bullet off the cartridge entirely. Its like the feed ramp was way too steep or something.
I own this gun and bought it before awhile back. That is the reason I saw this video. I saw this gun and it absolutely reminded me of gangster movies of the 90s. The exact reason why I bought it! It’s very intimidating and yes, great fun shooting!
"One win for Peter!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 But seriously, thanks for reviewing a gun that doesn't cost over $1,000! I'd love to see more reviews of affordable guns please!
Just got one today ! I was walking around the gun show soo disappointed then stumbled across this bad boy and thought it would be pretty fun to shoot so i got it.. thinkin about taking it out tomorrow
He's got to get quite a bit older before a portion of the commenters habitually write (on nearly every video) "I with I had a grandpa like this!", like they do with Hickock45. Come back in 30 years.
Why do you think so? In full auto, it's an open bolt smg, which means the trigger isn't even a functioning part of the gun at that point and pulls down out of the way of the bolt so it moves freely to cycle back and forth. There is absolutely no trigger slap in these at all. ZERO-NONE-NADA-ZILCH.
I was a teen in the 90’s as well but thought I was an adult I feel you.. the Mac 10 has always been an icon of that era and I’m not a fanatic like you but I will be looking for and buying the first one I can hold!!
if you like extra weight on the front to "balance" it, just use a standard scope ring with a piece of TUNGSTEN clamped in it. the overall length won't change.
I first fell in love with the mac10 mac11 from 2 movies Chuck Norris/Invasion USA and Kurt Russel/ Escape from NY. I started playing airsoft and my 1st gas power gun was a kwa M11A1 a 1/1 scale mac11. gas blowback with 50 rd magazine, empty it on full auto in 3 secs. I could carry it 1 of 2 ways I found a thigh holster that was made for the Mac 11 and had 1 extra mag pouch, or I had a shoulder rig that had straps that looped around my belt for stability, 1 side had a pouch for 2 mags, the other side had a detachable clip that went to the gun and a snap strap that kept the gun in place. I also had for it a supressor and a quad rail to make it look like snake pliscans mac 11 in escape from NY, minus having the 3x9x40 scope on it. My Mac 11 was know as the intimidator, because of the way it sounded on full auto when I shot it. It's 1 airsoft gun I will always own. I would love to have this clone version or the real deal .
Interesting situation, i was going to correct you on the pronunciation of "Faux" to say it's Fox but when i went to Webster for the meaning and pronunciation, well i guesss i have been wrong all these years...should have known better...😉
I own a fully transferrable Cobray M11/9 (a 9mm MAC-10 clone) and it is a true bullet hose. At 1,200 rounds per minute with a 32 round magazine, that is a whole 1.5 seconds of bliss. If you get this giddy over a semi-auto clone, imagine how happy you would be with a select fire version.
Got mine for 399 on PSA put a trilug on it with the short wolfman and I love it so much I’ll end up getting another one here soon. Everyone at the range flips out when I pull it out. MPA makes precision rifles so it’s no surprised triggers pretty good in the accuracy is really good.
I’m considering getting one, same deal I’ll get tri lug for my can and a brace. How reliable is it? I can’t seem to get a gauge. I haven’t seen someone really complain about the reliability
Has a mean factor w/the blocky stamped metal, long mag & supressor. I'd definitely get one for plinking (& the mag tool : ) Seems like a fun gun & thx f/review ☆
So, I have one. Colion does not understate just how much fun this thing is. I have the loader as well, I can get 35 rnds per mag. I also have a light attached to the pic, its an offset mount. The faux suppressor kinda hinders a direct under mount.
As an owner of one of these I can tell you this can be a very serious gun. You just have to spend the money for the quad rail that gives you a sight, a laser/light and angle grip. Then just get the folding attachment for the back and put a brace on it. Then you have yourself a serious stable and fairly accurate shooting platform
@colionnoir At 1:22 , that pic of you during your childhood was quintessential 90s.. wow.. as a 42 year old man.. I just had to stop and stare at that pic for like 10 minutes and soak up the 90s. The most glaring 90s outfit had to be the girl with what looks to be a jheri curl with the stonewash overalls... bro... stonewash was EVERYTHING in the 90s.. wow.. then the redhead dressed like a middle aged soccer mom headed to the office is how we dressed back in the day.. wow.. flashbacks..lol
I got the MPA57DMG, so this thing but chambered in 5.7×28mm. I got a one point sling, with QD, and a Halosun pistol sized sight. 100%, it doesn't feel cheap whatsoever.
I want my first gun store when I was 25 years old and rocked it for about 14 years having two before we sold out in masterpiece arms was manufactured just up the road from us we sold them Wayback when I thoroughly enjoyed their older designs more than their newer ones you couldn’t stop their old ones they would run no matter what. Also extremely easy to manipulate so that you can have extra fun.
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Even as a child/teen in the 90s lol 😂. The Tec-9 and mac10 were legendary in the hood.
In the 80s it was the UZI 😂
@@JaysRandomnessChannel true that!!! 🤣
As a child of the 90s......I kinda wish the Tec-9 would make a comeback
I hope they make a modern tec 9 @@KITDFOHS
@@jordanwilson3120 glad I'm not the only one 🤣. I even acknowledge it's a stupid gun but it's iconic and it's aesthetic AF.
My 13 year old granddaughter last summer found this to be much to her liking and absolutely riddled every paper target put in front of her. She especially found the 30 round mags delightful...
best of luck out there
you got a wierd grandkid!
Do more affordable guns more often. It makes it way better.
Honest outlaw is heat at that
For real. I like to own my guns rather than them own me
problem is most affordable guns are boring and don't do anything special. they're ass to shoot and the only reason to do a video on them is to sell them.
@@RSpracticalshooting repeal the hughes amendment i want a fool-otto
@@RSpracticalshooting lol
Even those born in the early-mid 90’s recognize this. Its just iconic and a gem! This and the MP5 will live forever!
Mp5.. you talking video game guns, not the Americana that he is trying to explain to you.. Mac 10 Tek 9.. case closed
Facts! 94' kid can confirm 😉
2000s kids know lmao
Nothing gonna out live the AK-47
@@dasun13the MP5 has been famous worldwide alongside the Mac’s and Tecs since the 80s what are you talking about
Holy crap, Colion covering something affordable?! I'm glad to see the trend start to break. Gucci guns are cool, but im not gonna be able to afford them any time soon.
Somebody call the south-africans, because everything they do seems to put the modern american market to shame lately.
yea you can afford the gun but not the ammo.
In my years I've found the middle tier of everything is where I'm comfortable. Whether it's guns, guitars, cars, or anything else, there's a ceiling you hit where returns diminish and the item becomes a vanity piece. Of course I'd buy something full auto if I could afford it, but that's a whole other can of worms where you're not even getting master craftsmanship haha
Bro same! This some I can actually get 🥹😎
Well, I found my stolen truck.
I have one of these, it is extremely “fun”. It would be the last weapon I grabbed from my safe to defend unless I had too. (I have plenty of other options to choose). I bought it for the nostalgia honestly. It is a huge conversation starter and when we visit outdoor ranges the guys always want to take it for a spin. It does scare the shit out of RSO’s though. They automatically assume it’s full auto and we came to spray some shit up.
I remember the Mac10s from the late 70s when I was a cop. They were only $200 , friend had one, couldn’t hit anything with it. But, could spray a lot of rounds down range. Hard to be believe it came back. Thanks for the video and a trip down memory lane. 😊👍
Ahh, the golden age! Pre 1986, when you could get a new machine gun with just a tax stamp
had an m/119
if you werent greedy on the trigger 2-4 rd bursts were very achievable on target especially with the wonky stock deployed and braced
I don't like cops much because of how inner city from small to big city task an some street cops that are bad cops are pos. cats. Not everyone black white or yellow is a fuck up. I have hatred for aone stuff that went down an think they should be put through more stuff like boot camp almost with that kind of power but I am also an adult with respect an I thank you for your service, for sure. It's not an easy job. Appreciate you. To be a cop in Little Rock or Chicago, Miami would be very tough. Blessings
I have two of the MPA Defenders. I have the full sized and the 'Micro', both chambered in 9mm, and you are correct! They are fun to shoot. Not the most accurate unless you learn the 'fixed' sights and do a bit of 'tapping' them into zero. I like the counter balancers, because they eliminate a lot of rise when you fire a round downrange.
You should practice 'Bump firing' them and sending them into burst or full auto mode. It's really easy to do with the MPA Defender, and I enjoy doing it at least once while on the range.
How do you adjust the rear sites
Wow! Mr Noir with a budget firearm that doesn’t cost $3000? 😂 Just kidding 😏
You had it right
Except it’s not a joke
Yeah..... no really.
Never thought I’d see a video of this gun from him 😂
Definitely!
suppressed mac10's in the 80's were every young boys dream.
No lies told, this thing was the iconic staple to replace .... the Uzi. Kids today look at the MP7 with glossy eyes. Kids that existed before CoD remember the mac10
@@alnashbcmd8029
MAC-10.
UZI.
TEC-9.
The Cobray Street Sweeper.
So many kickass guns from the 80s and 90s.
I got one a few months ago with the charging handle on the side. Threw on a red dot and a folding brace, and now it's truly a Masterpiece.
It actually doesn't look natural when you shoot it how a trained marksmanship would shoot it. It's a gun that is legendary to the streets. Throwing a stock on it would make it more practical, in my opinion.
I bought one about a decade ago. Back then you could get a 10-pack of Sten Mags for $80. Well worth it, and much more reliable than those plastic mags it comes with.
Pretty sure it was designed as a SMG and shot like an UZI. It's not a pistol so it looks stupid when shot like one @@TattsnGuns
Now go for a folding vertical grip. You know it needs it. Could also put a small light in front of the red dot. Baldr, TLRs, Inforce, would all look good. Put the dot on a riser tho, Monstrum is excellent and cheap.
@@jnananinja7436 😂
It's a great little eye grabber! It's on sale at PSA atm. Was $399 but just increased to $429. Still a great buy!
The full auto one is REALLY fun!
We had a class 3 m11 in the 90s.
Took nice cheap sten gun mags.
Spring and buffer replaced to get it up to 1400rpm.
Actually near 100% reliable.
And it was decently accurate because, being class 3, you could put the wire stock on it.
Instead of one round per trigger pull, it was definitely one mag per trigger pull.
@@mikey92362I could’ve got one at a gun store back in the 90s for 1250.00 F/A with wire folding stock.
And that is why ik this one is not fun but very boring 😌🤷🏾♂️
@@triggamanq4198 it's a vibe and cheap but not not back in the day cheap just saying I'm 41 205 pisces black alpha Male Birmingham Alabama home of the civil rights movement
@@joehasberryjr7398 It jus didn't sit right with me 🤷🏾♂️
Here's some info for someone thinking about getting this firearm.
The MPA30T will not feed JHP reliably, but you can use other types of defensive ammunition; I have used soft point ammo as well as the G9 Defense External Hollow Point ammo without any issues.
You can use the metal STEN gun magazines with a small modification to the magazine themselves. They're a lot more reliable and, in my personal opinion, they make the gun look much better. Also, you can change the grip to use Glock mags if that's what you prefer.
It is incredibly easy to bump-fire this firearm. Many people will say not to do this, but at some point or another, you won't be able to keep yourself from doing it.
It's more a Cobray MAC-11 (regret selling mine) than a MAC-10. MAC 10 has a shorter upper receiver back from the grip. Both are good in 9mm (10 also is in .45 & the 11 also is in .380). The MAC-11 in .380 looks more like a MAC-10.
I need to get the side charging model from MPAA.
Firing from closed bolt is way better in semi-auto IMO
To get even more technical, Cobray's M11/9.
Got to velocity arms get a much better one for less with side charge and threaded.
yep, this is a Mac 11/9, not a mac 10 clone. I have a mac 11/9 and love it. With a lage upper receiver its as good as any other pdw out there. slows the rof to 600 which is easily managed and can even be single fired if you are careful. lots of fun and growing in value every day.
Wasn’t the 380 call the Mac 12?
Funny to watch a grown up man so happy and having fun with his toy, lol. Fun to watch and learn at the same time.
I own a full auto mac 10 in .45 acp and a mac 11 in .380. Those are fun! Not as much fun now as they were back in the 80s due to the price of ammo however. The mac 11 in particular spews .380 like a laser beam . While its crazy cool, its actually spewing $$$$$$$$$ downrange.
Ingram Mac 11 had the worlds fastest cyclical rate of any firearm
The definition of fully automatic is a fun way to turn cold hard cash into noise & smoke
Post a video, I hope you understand why I have to call cap
Yeah, it really sucks that they try to have us quit shooting by raising the price of ammo so high!!!! I wonder if they want us to quit driving altogether as well since the price of gas is so astronomical after invading an oil rich country twice???
Oh and I forgot about the oil in the Ukraine making oil companies astronomical profits recently!
It seems like they want everything to be really expensive so we can't afford anything and we just give up on it so they can move forward with their agenda!
FJB
Hand loading is a thing. Pretty much a must for enthusiasts of select fire firearms.
I was offended when he called you not an adult now, but then I came to agree with him with how giddy you were shooting the gun! Never grow old sir!
Yep, the mini version is cool too. Most reviews knock these clones, I don’t think they get it. They can be put in the category of practical, being that they are built like tanks for durability. Especially when they have Sten mags in them.
5:42 rich man laugh lol.
mac 10 is the hoods version of the tommy gun
a range with a used tire looks like hell to me. imagine the ricochet.
I bought one of these about 6 months ago to help fill out my 80's childhood movie fan stable and had the exact same reaction.... Took a bunch of shit from my buddies about it,... til I recorded them shooting it for the first time and without fail all got the same big cheesy shit eating grin of adolescent exuberance. Now every range day it's, "You bringing the Mac...?" Moral: If you buy one, make sure your friends bring their own ammo
What are some of the other 80s guns you have?
I think between 80s/90s movies and call of duty guns a bunch of folks me included have weird/unique collections..just too funny
In the 90’s I was in my twenties and we had all of the cool firearms. The MAC 10, the Tec 9, you name it. It was an awesome time
Every 80s bad guy had an army of goons, sprayin and prayin with these bad boys.
I remember the 80s. The cool thing back then was to hold the gun sideways when firing. Targets were missed almost every time but plenty of innocent got shot.
This or a spas 12
boy, stay in your lane@@Mardasee
@@blist14ant I do.
Other hand/arm holding a bag full of money
I have to agree with you on this gun. It's price point, at $500.00'ish, fun factor, and cool looks made me jump on one last year. Everyone that sees it can't get enough of shooting it. Very fun shooter. Good breakdown on a low budget fun gun.
The reason the safety switch goes round and round is they forgot to put the 3 round burst and the FULL fun mode into it lol
😂 the good old days.
ohhh but it is very easy to bump fire it, i have one lol
Maybe that'll be version 2.0.
May need to add a binary trigger for half legal fun 😂😂😂😂
@@Th3W4tchmanthey have Glock lowers for these you can throw a binary in it lol
Lots of fun. The Glock mag conversion is worth the couple extra bucks. And mounting a red dot/light under helps with a bigger suppressor, since the sights are pretty much useless.
i was born and raised in the 2000’s in the uk, most iconic PDW’s were the UZI, Mac10/11 and VZ61 skorpion and MP5(bcoz police)
I love this gun!! Picked it up for $399 pre-COVID!!!!! Added a pistol brace, top laser (the more expensive model has the rail on the top with the cocking mechanism on the side) it’s a fun gun!!!
That Mac 10 brought out that inner “over exaggerated swagger” out of Colion
It's actually a Mac-11 clone, not a Mac-10. I have one and they are a blast.
CLONE means EXACT REPLICA right? So how is a Semi Auto Closed Bolt a CLONE of a MAC-10 Exactly?
You absolute madman 😂!
@@GMT439Hello pedantic person
C'mon Colion. Just think Lethal Weapon, Die Hard, Miami Vice, Even the Bad Boys movies. I got one of these new clones last week. Haven't fired it yet, but no mistaking that silhouette. Thx for the video.
I have never seen anyone have so much fun with a review. Outstanding!
I like mine, 9mm, side charge, takes glock mags, different release lever and has a rail across the top. I added the short hand guard front piece which I like better than the original barrel. I have an raised/angled red dot. It is fun to shoot.
A classmate tried to sell me a MAC 11(.380 version of the MAC 10) for $200 in the parking lot of a strip mall in 1993. I refused because I got the feeling he was trying to get rid of either a stolen gun or one used in a crime. Since that day I've often thought I should've purchased it. Better safe than sorry but it would've be a fun range gun.
Your judgment was correct. Don’t stress over it.
That or even more likely, a fed boi trying to bait people to pad his resume with arrests.
Lots of sketchy stuff like that going down in the 90's. Fully transferable machine guns still in circulation after the 86 ban, Shame what happens when the 2nd ammendment is infringed 😢.
@@johndecker9983 Ridiculous laws aimed at discouraging, harassing and arresting Americans that have a civil right to own whatever they can afford to own or manufacture.
@mrtlsimon 👍 I would ammendment that awesome statement to include anything they can manufacture
I want one! Reminds me of an old Cobray M-11/9. They are stamped steel with crude sights, but surprisingly, they point shoot naturally for me. The mags they use aren't so great either, but when they work, they are fun to shoot. I wonder if this is the same design. Looks very similar.
I kinda wish @Colion Noir would discover 3D printing and the goofy silly stuff that is out there. I think he would get so many giggles out of it.
He's to mainstream and NRA'ish to go that route.
@Repent-and-believe-in-JesusHow's our homeboy Jesus doing these days?
That's why we have PSR
He likes his monetization. I don't blame him. We have Hoffman, PSR, and Ivan
He likes his monetization. I don't blame him. We have Hoffman, PSR, and Ivan for that
I have the older mini one it has a super short trigger reset and shoots very fast it looks like it spent 30 years in the ghetto but its a pretty cool little gun
Mitch Werbell a Scottish soldier and mercenary along with an aeronautical engineer by the name of Ingram designed the MAC 9, 10 &11 as a small suppessd side arm. It was for covert and close personal protection ( re: embassy use)! The term BIG MAC ATTACK came from .45 caliber version. Single point sling under an over coat very concealable.
I recall reading that these small smgs like the mac 10/11 and uzis were well utilized in undercover operations or more interestingly hit and run assassinations while riding on the back of a motorcycle.
Mitch Werbell III, was born in Philadelphia. Not Scotland.
I’ve tried messing around with concealing one under my largest winter coat… it didn’t work so well for me
@@atbsigmaI can conceal mine in the front pocket of a hoodie
@@utubegeneric And of Russian descent, and didn't actually help design the MAC. Also, every movement is going to cause something with a lot of off-axis weight (like a 32rd box mag) to yaw around like crazy on a single point sling, which would make it the opposite of concealable.
ive had that same gun for over 3 yrs i saw it and wanted it cause its s mac 10 its an iconic weapon from my youth 600 bucks brand new and its still a blast to shoot and it turns heads whenever i pull it out in the range
Ty Mr. Noir for all you do for the FA community.
Merry Christmas, all the best to you & your loved ones♥️🙏🇨🇦
Just ordered mines this morning I been. Wanting this gun for months after working ot and taking care of 6 kids and a wife I finally go one 👐👐👐
With a brace and a fun switch that gun becomes a monster in the right hands.
Great. When I see Colion having that much fun shooting a gun, I just have to have it. Sigh. Now I'm an and a must-have. I did grow up in the 90s and that does look like a blast. It shall be mine. Thanks, Colion.
I have an older side cocking version and SBRed it. Actually a very reliable PCC. Always shoot with a real suppressor and a front grip. Very reliable.
and they shoulder bump really well. They do make great PDW's when SBRd.
Instantly see a Mac-10 and think Colors (1988)
It definitely has a strong "problem solver" vibe. But yes, it also looks incredibly fun.
They are
I have one, and it’s best shot from the hip, for real. After practice it’s totally intuitive, great for an Alamo gun. And it practically sprays in three- shot bursts. Its a decent machine pistol, and it throws the 9mm rounds pretty good.
Mac 11 9mm was the first that I came across, I fell in love right away with it, the Mac 12 in .380 I bought later just because it was little smaller and I love it as well, never picked up the 10 version, if I did I would have to get it in the 45 version. They are awesome guns to be able to just enjoy, glad you found them!
I have one of these that looks way more like the original then what is currently being made. It has, no finger grooves, a more blocky look, and a rough grey finish. I wish they still offered it like that
I've compared the two actually.
I concur about the aesthetic, but the new ones do have much nicer sights that you can actually adjust, and the rear attachment points are pretty handy too.
Did you know there's an even newer version that accepts Glock mags?
@@Blahblahblahninsense I have seen those but honestly I purchased this one purely for aesthetic reasons. For example, mine comes with a fake suppressor. If I could not find a model that looked exactly like something out of Grand theft Auto or a cheesy 90 movie, I would simply not be interested. It's the same reason I purchase a Mossberg 590 bullpup, so I could recreate RoboCop 2 lol
I've got all 3 variations. They're really something when you SBR them.
CLONE means EXACT REPLICA right? So how is a Semi Auto Closed Bolt a CLONE of a MAC-10 Exactly?
@@GMT439 because it's the only legal way to do it?
I put an old-school tapco vertical grip on the Pic rail to the bottom. Actually, it's pretty freaking comfy...now all I need is a side folding j-mac stock and a small t1 red dot for the rail on the top (I have the tactical side charging version).
I so badly want one with a square barrel extension, all scifi style.
I get it...I had the old Cobray M11s back in the day.. and was actually carried a suppressed MAC 10 .45acp for my tactics job.. but the M11 was just as fun and none of the "red tape" associated with thy MAC.
I recently picked up a Defender and it's fantastic interpretation of the original MAC and very reasonably priced...
Lots of gun fun to be had with this piece
$500 huh???
I bought a select fire MAC-10 in 85 brand new. The weapon and the Tax Stamp along with 2 cases of ammo cost me exactly $502.15 with sales tax included. MAN, how the times have changed. The select fire ones are REALLY fun to play with. Not the best accuracy, even on semiautomatic, but flip the switch and have a ball!!! Just have PLENTY of loaded magazines ready the cyclic rate is FAST!!!
I have the original one I bought, then 2 months later the same.dealer had a 45acp version, that had to come home with me.
$1461 in todays dollars
I've had my eye on one of these for a while so seeing your video might have just sold me on it. I totally get what you're saying about it just being a fun gun and accepting it for what it is, but I do think I'd have the most fun trying to turn it into a more serious-looking gun at the very least. Probably end up spending 2x what the gun is worth just trying to tac it out but it deserves that level of ridiculousness lol
Fun little toy, when it works. Had issues with mine jamming. Had to send it back to MPA for repairs. Ended up getting rid of it as I have little use for problematic firearms.
When I had a thing for the 5.7 round, I found MPA had this gun chambered in that round. It was relatively inexpensive as well. Thanks for reviewing this company!
They still do. I was looking at MPA's website last year and saw the 5.7 version. I just checked again because of this video and it's still available 👍
Had any trouble with yours? Most people say no but have low round count. I had two of the five seven versions. Both broken in under a thousand rounds. I cant remember exactly what it was, maybe a factory pressed bushing or front trunnion, whatever it was I remember that I didn't want to try and fix it. Both guns same failure. I never abused them or bumpfiring, nothing like that. First one I thought maybe a lemon so I traded it in and got another, after the same problem with the second I traded it for the 9. Its too bad because it was really accurate with a red dot. So easy to blow the bullseye out. I just couldn't recommend the 5.7 version after that dual identical failure. Haven't had any trouble with the 9 tho.
@@KurtOnoIR I never got it….
@@zwpTHEbricklayer oh! Sorry, well maybe don't get that one lol.
@noirtec9 I had one and my main issue with it was that the magazine would just randomly fall out while firing it.
If it makes Mr Colion Noir smile like that, it's good for me! I'll go buy one tomorrow.
I purchased my MAC-10 in the 80's for under $200. It's a fun gun for plinking, However I think that it's a great car gun. It's also really rugged and has that look about it. I was more into the MP5. I have a lased on it, but the MAC-10 is more of a bare bones enforcer.
I was thinking it would make a nice truck gun
The MAC 10 finally found it's niche as an electric airsoft SMG platform, still iconic and actually useable with 6mm plastic BB's. The MAC 11 airsoft variants actually have gas blow back of the open bolt that makes them really fun with co2 or propane propellant for the BB's. You can also still purchase a FA MAC 10 in .45 from a private seller but it takes a long time to get the licensing to legally own them and a good suppressor (Years of red tape tax stamps) ($10,000 package these days if not more) not to mention how expensive it is to actually run subsonic pistol ammo with the high rate of fire and finding a range that actually allows FA etc.
😂 The ideal concealed carry.
The Mac 10 and Mac 11 were the terror of 1980's Miami!!
I'm so glad you did a review of this gun because my local shop has one and I gotta admit it's really cool looking but because it's so cheap I thought it probably doesn't work at all and most likely jams every other shot so 👍👍👍 awesome video 🤘 and thank you I'm gonna go pick it up 😂👍
Yeah, like the tech-9 aka jamomatic
It’s a POS. Feels cheap. Firing pin broke after about 25 rounds. Got a replacement from MPA. Broke again after 8 rounds. I just shipped it back to them for “repairs”.
I bought one of these in 5.7mm years ago and it was the most dangerous POS ive ever owned. I sent it back to masterpiece arms twice and they never fixed it. It would regularly push the bullet back into the cartridge or just snap the bullet off the cartridge entirely. Its like the feed ramp was way too steep or something.
ITs A P.O.S. ALSO HAD ONE... SAME!
Merry Christmas, Colion! Thank you for your hard work, love watching your videos.
If you're looking for a light for this, the Streamlight TLR-4 works great. It's compact and even has a built in laser for it if that's you're thing.
Potential to be a decent home defense gun honestly lol
I love my defender in 5.7! It is so much fun to shoot and the nostalgia of it is so amazing!
This looks more like a clone of the M11/9 not the M10. Uses a Sten magazine too.
Had one at 16 in the early 90s fully. That Mac was my baby.
Too bad it can’t have a “fun switch.” Then it would really be awesome!
I own this gun and bought it before awhile back. That is the reason I saw this video. I saw this gun and it absolutely reminded me of gangster movies of the 90s. The exact reason why I bought it! It’s very intimidating and yes, great fun shooting!
Mac-11 = 9mm, Mac-10 = .45ACP
Still...pretty daggum cool!
Awesome!
No the Mac 10 come in both 9 & 45
But he is holding a Mac 11 clone
Mac 10 backs are shorter
MAC-11's were 9mm Kurtz Better Known as 380. 🤠👍
"One win for Peter!"
😂😂😂😂😂😂
But seriously, thanks for reviewing a gun that doesn't cost over $1,000! I'd love to see more reviews of affordable guns please!
Have a Merry Xmas Colion! Thank you for keeping us informed! 🇺🇸
Just got one today ! I was walking around the gun show soo disappointed then stumbled across this bad boy and thought it would be pretty fun to shoot so i got it.. thinkin about taking it out tomorrow
Colion-- are you competing with Hickock45 as to who can prattle the most and not shoot the dang gun?? 😂
He's got to get quite a bit older before a portion of the commenters habitually write (on nearly every video) "I with I had a grandpa like this!", like they do with Hickock45. Come back in 30 years.
This thing would slap in full auto. #RepealHughes
Why do you think so? In full auto, it's an open bolt smg, which means the trigger isn't even a functioning part of the gun at that point and pulls down out of the way of the bolt so it moves freely to cycle back and forth. There is absolutely no trigger slap in these at all. ZERO-NONE-NADA-ZILCH.
New Jack City RoboCop, Boyz N the Hood and others helped me fall in love with this gat. Definitely a phat ass gun. * iconic*
Isn’t that a replica of a MAC-11??
Did you not read the video description? "MAC-10 CLONE"
Yes. That looks like the longer, slimmer Mac-11 to me. Came out after the Mac-10, which was made in both 9 and .45. The Mac-11 was 9mm only.
@@Gottiline_Acethe video description is wrong. A search on google shows it a mac 11 clone. Mac 10’s are shorter
That's my bad. I didn't pay enough attention to it to even think twice about it. Should have expected as much. 😂
The faux suppressor actually directs the initial blast forward down range . And not 180 degrees at the muzzle . Plus all the reasons you mentioned .
It’s not a MAC 10 clone it’s a MAC 11 clone. A mac 10 is shorter thicker and chambered in 45 acp. The Mac 11 is 9 mm like this one
They used to make a Mac 11 the size of a Mac 10 but not anymore unless it's used on Gunbroker
That pistol is crying to be akimbo. Classic 80s twin mac miami vice style.
I was a teen in the 90’s as well but thought I was an adult I feel you.. the Mac 10 has always been an icon of that era and I’m not a fanatic like you but I will be looking for and buying the first one I can hold!!
if you like extra weight on the front to "balance" it, just use a standard scope ring with a piece of TUNGSTEN clamped in it. the overall length won't change.
I first fell in love with the mac10 mac11 from 2 movies Chuck Norris/Invasion USA and Kurt Russel/ Escape from NY. I started playing airsoft and my 1st gas power gun was a kwa M11A1 a 1/1 scale mac11. gas blowback with 50 rd magazine, empty it on full auto in 3 secs. I could carry it 1 of 2 ways I found a thigh holster that was made for the Mac 11 and had 1 extra mag pouch, or I had a shoulder rig that had straps that looped around my belt for stability, 1 side had a pouch for 2 mags, the other side had a detachable clip that went to the gun and a snap strap that kept the gun in place. I also had for it a supressor and a quad rail to make it look like snake pliscans mac 11 in escape from NY, minus having the 3x9x40 scope on it. My Mac 11 was know as the intimidator, because of the way it sounded on full auto when I shot it. It's 1 airsoft gun I will always own. I would love to have this clone version or the real deal .
Interesting situation, i was going to correct you on the pronunciation of "Faux" to say it's Fox but when i went to Webster for the meaning and pronunciation, well i guesss i have been wrong all these years...should have known better...😉
Regardless. $500.00 Man I Just Love This Gun. Absolutely Fantastic. Great Price and Great Video. Love It. 16:57
I own a fully transferrable Cobray M11/9 (a 9mm MAC-10 clone) and it is a true bullet hose. At 1,200 rounds per minute with a 32 round magazine, that is a whole 1.5 seconds of bliss. If you get this giddy over a semi-auto clone, imagine how happy you would be with a select fire version.
Got mine for 399 on PSA put a trilug on it with the short wolfman and I love it so much I’ll end up getting another one here soon. Everyone at the range flips out when I pull it out. MPA makes precision rifles so it’s no surprised triggers pretty good in the accuracy is really good.
I’m considering getting one, same deal I’ll get tri lug for my can and a brace. How reliable is it? I can’t seem to get a gauge. I haven’t seen someone really complain about the reliability
Watching Colion Noire Giggling, & giddy over a cheap iconic frame just makes Christmas feel good
Has a mean factor w/the blocky stamped metal, long mag & supressor. I'd definitely get one for plinking (& the mag tool : )
Seems like a fun gun & thx f/review ☆
So, I have one. Colion does not understate just how much fun this thing is. I have the loader as well, I can get 35 rnds per mag. I also have a light attached to the pic, its an offset mount. The faux suppressor kinda hinders a direct under mount.
Love your giggle Colion, pure joy, like being a little kid again.
I bought one around 5y ago for 350. I bought 20 sten mags for 10 a piece they work but you have to grind the sides a little so they will fit in it.
As an owner of one of these I can tell you this can be a very serious gun. You just have to spend the money for the quad rail that gives you a sight, a laser/light and angle grip. Then just get the folding attachment for the back and put a brace on it. Then you have yourself a serious stable and fairly accurate shooting platform
Also it will take jacketed hollow points you just really need to use Hornady critical defense. The little red thing in the middle makes it cycle
@colionnoir At 1:22 , that pic of you during your childhood was quintessential 90s.. wow.. as a 42 year old man.. I just had to stop and stare at that pic for like 10 minutes and soak up the 90s. The most glaring 90s outfit had to be the girl with what looks to be a jheri curl with the stonewash overalls... bro... stonewash was EVERYTHING in the 90s.. wow.. then the redhead dressed like a middle aged soccer mom headed to the office is how we dressed back in the day.. wow.. flashbacks..lol
I have the MPA-10 SST in .45ACP. It accepts grease gun stick mags. I have 5 of them, plus extra springs.
My buddy has one of these. Definitely fun to shoot! I like the side charging handle ones better because you can add a sight on there.
I got the MPA57DMG, so this thing but chambered in 5.7×28mm. I got a one point sling, with QD, and a Halosun pistol sized sight. 100%, it doesn't feel cheap whatsoever.
I want my first gun store when I was 25 years old and rocked it for about 14 years having two before we sold out in masterpiece arms was manufactured just up the road from us we sold them Wayback when I thoroughly enjoyed their older designs more than their newer ones you couldn’t stop their old ones they would run no matter what. Also extremely easy to manipulate so that you can have extra fun.