The rivian bluetooth being down is bizarre. Imagine standing in front of your car, and you cant get in because a server 2000 miles away is offline. Why does all this stuff *require* internet access?!
Exactly. I wish car companies - and tech companies in general - would stop "solving" problems that aren't actually problems in the first place 🤬 I was pleased to see with this car, the climate control at least has physical buttons and you have the BMW-style wheel for controlling the screen, because in my car - Seat Leon 2021 - almost everything has to done via the touchscreen which is a complete pain in the butt. Car companies need to focus on making cars safer, more comfortable and improving range on EVs and stop trying to connect every bloody thing to the internet. All I want is a good, reliable car, that runs Android Auto/Car Play, is fun and safe to drive, and has a decent enough range between charges. I appreciate my car - and many others - have emergency call systems, so if you are in a major accident, the car automatically contacts the emergency services and can transmit my location. Excellent stuff, but for everything else my phone can handle all the info and internet stuff. I mean, I actually AM partially crippled in my left leg, but I can manage to press a button on a key fob to unlock and lock my car. That's all I ever want when it comes to accessing my car, unless someone can come up with a system that makes it even harder to steal the car which - seriously - I don't think face recognition and fingerprint recognition (especially when the car needs access to a cloud database) will provide. Just a gimmick that gave the marketing department a boner by the look of it. This doesn't solve a real world problem - it creates new ones ugh !!!
Rivian targets the “adventure” market, so it seems unlikely that they’ve implemented a locking mechanism that means if you drive to somewhere with no cell coverage and leave your car, you will be locked-out of it when you return. But that’s certainly what it sounds like!
I dont trust that technology also that flipping ball that displays gears can malfunction and then what if it doesn't flip around you cant drive the car .
I own this car so a couple of keynotes: The car does come with two normal keys, so that if you don’t like any of the alternative methods, you can use the regular fobs as normal. There are 6 friggin ways to get into and drive the GV60 by default: fobs, wallet NFC card, physical keys, face/finger, UWB phone, and app. You can also set the car to automatically unlock based on both UWB or the key fob on approach, so you don’t ever have to actually press the handle to unlock the car.
Good that they gave actual keys. In India, there is one electric bike that doesn't come with keys. And as you can guess, the software is never 100% reliable. So it's always better to have options.
Glad you mentioned the snow/ice/cold climate issue. My first thought was how much of a pain the face sensor/pop-out door handls would be to deal with in subfreezing conditions
What about those whose box and had a bad 12 rounds? You can look pretty different when the swelling kicks in and your eye closes up. Still a cool feature.
Well it's a good thing the face recognition will be a secondary worry for you in sub-freezing conditions what with the weather also screwing with your batteries so you basically can't drive that heavy vehicle anyway
The car comes with two traditional fobs. This video is a bit misleading, since all of this fancy stuff are meant to be in addition of, not in lieu of the traditional keys.
Indeed. Wikipedia sums it quite well: “The pillars on a car with permanent roof body style are the vertical or nearly vertical supports of its window area or greenhouse-designated respectively as the A, B, C and D-pillar, moving from front to rear, in profile view.”
I've had a GV60 for a year, and the facial recognition has been 100% reliable. The fingerprint reader is less reliable, but I have always gotten it to work after 2 or 3 tries. I would not rely only on biometrics as long as the fob is viable.
Hyundai and Kia Launch Service Campaign to Prevent Theft of Millions of Vehicles Targeted by Social Media Challenge Approximately 3.8 million Hyundais and 4.5 million Kias involved Language: English Share: Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Mail February 14, 2023 | Washington, DC Hyundai and Kia have developed theft deterrent software for millions of their vehicles that lack an immobilizer and will provide it FREE of charge to vehicle owners. The software updates the theft alarm software logic to extend the length of the alarm sound from 30 seconds to one minute and requires the key to be in the ignition switch to turn the vehicle on.
Maybe it's, like often in camera usage or face recognition, a matter of your skin color if it works well, so-so or just bad (and that's racism by industry btw)
It would be cool if you gave us visual driving impressions. I'm not expecting a full on automotive journalist type of coverage, but to see the cars you talk about in motion be cool. Even just clips here and there of the vehicle in motion would be nice.
It would be really interesting to see the Volvo EX30 from your perspective! I don't know the relevance of it in the US, but for Europe, this, in my opinion, will be a great example of how to make electric vehicles more accessible. Great video as always btw =)
There's been a situation where a Tesla owner drove off with the wrong car because of their phone key tech. Look it up. I'd take the Genesis tech over that.
@@DarwinChaug yeah and my friend said his friend got into a wrong tesla car (with so many teslas everywhere its bound to happen) and the shocking thing is that wrong tesla that he got into let him in with ease so yeah thats what happens when you try to turn your car into a smartphone.
There is worse - when fingerprint unlock came out back in like 2005 there are confirmed cases where gangs were removing fingers and hands of the owners to take them with them and be able to unlock again (I assumed this was an urban legend but there are news reports of confirmed cases in a bunch of countries). Manufacturers added "liveness" detection so amputated limbs longer work to unlock most cars but apparently gangs still do it to see if it works or just kidnap the owner as part of the robbery...
6:58 The driver-side passenger seat adjustment is actually quite clever. You might want to adjust the seat for a passenger who might have difficulties using the seat adjustment controls because of unfamiliarity with how they work or because of their location lower down. Other cars should have that, too.
That and you can adjust the seat BEFORE a passenger gets in. Or move the seat forward to find something that fell or rolled off a seat. Or to give a taxi passenger more leg room.
Some kind of physical key that does not require power or internet or Bluetooth is a must. I have had several occurrences with my tesla where I either left my phone in the house and needed to quickly get into the car, or my phone died after being away from the car all day, or the app (as Marques pointed out) just failed to work. If I didn't have the provided keycard in my wallet I would have been stuck.
I love seeing the 55 thumbs-up responses to this comment... Absolutely stupid and negligent of automakers to not have a stand-alone key to get into a car. This is one place where computerization is really out of place and wrong.
@@cbatiau2528 Tesla gives you a physical key card and if you pay you can also get a actual key. The Bluetooth phone thing is just an extra option. The physical keycard is free and given to you.
I've owned a GV60 since January and love it! I don't trust the biometrics exclusively but having either the phone key or my face to get into the car means I have two methods of unlocking without a fob and it's never let me down! I usually don't drive around without my phone anyway.
I’m a big Genesis/Hyundai/Kia fan. They are making great cars. I had a 2017 Genesis G90 and it was awesome. Have a Palisade now and I love it. Great content, as usual!!
GV70 owner here - the GV60 is a bit small for my needs but the 70 is perfect. Honestly, the best car I’ve ever owned. Excellent quality and performance.
I'm also a big fan. I had a 2019 G70 for the last 5 years, and it was great. Loads of fun, great styling, and rock solid reliable. Plus the Genesis service was fantastic, loved the valet service, and always getting a loaner. I've traded it for an Ioniq 5 which I'm also quite enjoying so far, Hyundai/Kia/Genesis have done a great job in really making their mark on the industry and building desirable, quality vehicles.
I would love if they still have a key fob. Face ID is unreliable, not every phone can be used for the phone key, and if you rock climb like I do your fingers get shredded to the point fingerprint sensors don’t recognize you.
Tbf there's likely an optional key fob you can acquire, similar to Tesla? Should have one included with the car imo, but wouldn't be surprised if it isn't.
@@GabrielRM I think it needs to be because you need to somehow start the car and open it before you even register your face, so imo it has to be some kind of key
@@user-ko9te4jj4u I see, that's good then. Honestly I love seeing such new implementations on cars. Sometimes it really feels like the automobile industry is so far behind in technology that it makes you wonder if tech giants like Google or Apple should take over the tech/infotainment systems of cars..
@@user-ko9te4jj4uif you choose not to use key fob and only use fave or finger id, how does the car immobilise? Normally with keyless start cars if the car is driven a certain distance away from key it will immobilise. So how with just fingerprint and face I'd?
Thanks a lot for starting this channel MB, as someone who knows little about cars, these videos help keep me in the know about cars even though I know I'll never be able to purchase one, and also if say a friend of mine or anyone else is thinking about buying a car I can put in my two cents. I follow this and AutoTrader (UK), both excellent channels.
As a first time buyer looking to get into the EV market, any change of you making a top 3 or top 5 video? I love all your videos and they certainly help form a picture. But i'd love to have a direct list of pros and cons for your top picks. And specifically in my case, cargo space and passenger space (family of 5) Keep up the great work !
I second this. But I think the one big worrying thing right now is just access to a [public] charging network. It's, for me, what's preventing me from wanting to enter but very hesitant. Yeah, there's at-home "slow" charging, but I rather it take an hour over 8+ hours to full.
If you're looking to get into an EV, the best is Tesla. Between the software and reliable charging its a no brainer. Tesla has never had that system is down and you can't get into your car problem. The phone key works everytime. Only time it doesn't work right away is if I have the phone in my back pocket and for some reason the car doesn't detect my phone right away. I take the phone out my pocket and it instantly works. Also you have a Tesla card that is the second option. So you would need to lose your phone and wallet in order for you to be stranded.
@ChipsCST no need to worry about charging from home with an EV. If you travel more than 200 miles everyday, there is nothing to fear. It becomes routine to just plug your car in once you get home. And you're not getting the battery all the way down to empty unless you decide not to plug your car in for a couple of days. Range anxiety and charging are not an issue at this point.
@@Darthmaull0101build quality is absolutely terrible for the price. Only thing good about Tesla is software. If the Germans get their hands on good software it’s over for them.
This car is interesting, and the shifter seems like a fun idea. I can appreciate what they're doing to stand out, because it's getting harder to do that it seems.
I'm super interested to see where the industry goes in respect to keys. We got so many options. Regular physical key, wireless key, phone key, fingerprint, face ID. I would think having at least two options is and will continue to be standard. Personally I really like the phone key as the standard with either the fingerprint or wireless key as a backup. Also for the love of god get rid of start buttons on EVs!!!
@@y8fpefingerprint is extremely secure and has been so for countless phones, laptops, locks etc. People can't steal your fingerprint from your pocket or intercept the signal to make a fake key. Sounds more secure to me
100% get rid of start/stop buttons in EVs!! Makes no sense, and when I've pointed this our to car dealers they just look at me like.. "but we've always had start buttons!!".
I can't wait to see your thoughts on the Ioniq 5 N. I think you'll hate the simulated gear shift mode but after hearing why they are doing it (manage temperatures, balancing chassis before a corner, general emotion of an ICE car, etc.) it makes more sense than the typical EV setup
We had our GV60 Performance since 12/1/2022 (love the car) and use the key fob as the primary method to access the car. The good news is that by just carrying the fob and walking near the driver's door the doors unlock (using the car's proximity sensors) - no button to push. However once inside, the car will ask for confirmation of the driver (driver 1, driver 2 or guest). Drivers 1 or 2 are linked to specific driver setting ( seats, mirrors, radio stations). Currently I have an iPhone X and this Apple model is too old to use as a smart key - will have wait until the fall when a newer Apple phone is purchased. The best part of having facial recognition or the phone smart key, if you have ever loose your keys /fob, you can still drive the car. Redundancy access features are great when needed.
Super confused how Bluetooth which should be entirely a local function between the app and the vehicle could go down... that seems like a design flaw to me!
It's a pain in the butt. Even my Hyundai SantaFe also has Bluetooth phone controls and I never use them cause of the lag to communicate to their servers and then to car. Why is it never direct to the vehicle, I just don't know.
I like that's it's a bit of 2FA. Face to get in, fingerprint to start. But better yet, it's a backup to the UWB phone key if you lose or break your phone. It's always good to have a backup (as his Rivian experience shows).
Marques, you have tested the Ioniq 5. That one also has the seat adjustment buttons on the side of the front passenger seat and the drawer glove box! Just saying ☺️
"Your current social credit score has fallen below the threshold for operation of this vehicle. Please contact the local Ministry of Truth to have your vehicle restored."
The one thing that the GV60 has above it's more "normal" siblings in the Ioniq5 and EV6 is that the Performance Pack cars have around 100HP more than the other cars (excepting the EV6 GT that has 576HP). So for a time this was the quickest e-GMP car that the Hyundai family offered. It's still a great performer compared to the others if people are looking for that.
Huge fan of the channel and content. Wanted to point out one thing I have heard in a couple videos. The pillar directly behind the front seats is the B pillar, not the A pillar. Keep up the great work, can’t wait for the next video!
@@SHRModding Not using the same wireless communication technology. With keyfobs they are using Code grabbing and now, relay attacks, that isn't yet (to my knowledge) being done with phone-as-key yet.
phone entry on my Tesla has been perfect, just walk up to the car and it unlocks. If I have to do my fingerprint / faceID in the rain on my car I am not buying it lmao.
"Just turn off when I get out" A-freakin-men man. If I were deciding between two cars that I liked equally, and one did this... it would be the one I bought. The number of times I've gotten out of my car, which I've owned for 2 years now, just expecting this to happen because it makes SO much sense that it would (no matter how many times I try to remind myself), is ridiculous.
I agree I think the lights on the back look great. I also like how much feasibility the windows offer. That’s a major problem with a lot of SUVs especially small and midsize SUVs… Either the rear window is way too small and or the side windows are too small. Overall impressive vehicle.
No cloud connected systems for security! Sorry, it needs to be local to the car only, if so then maybe. What happens when you are in the mountains outside of all cellular range for both the phone and car? Also when the battery dies then what, take part of the car apart to get in manually? I can see my 80+ year old mother in law doing this, well I can't see her trying to lift a CCS cable to charge it either! 👍🤠 What happens when you are on that mountain trip and your phone falls into the river or on the trail somewhere, hope you have your backup method to get in.
Salute to you for always shouting out people you’re inspired by/other content creators. I noticed it years ago with Doug Demuro and “This” but you do it a lot
I think the face unlock is an amazing second option to use to get in your car; like say you lost your phone and/or key fob, and you would be otherwise stranded, this lets you get in your car. I wouldn’t use it all the time but it’s nice to have
I feel like this is one of those. If it ain't broke, don't fix situations. I've never had an issue with using a key fob. I suppose if you really want to reduce how much stuff you carry with you then maybe a good cell phone app? Why not NFC? Sure. You have to practically touch the phone to the car but it would work. It's a key and lock situation. Companies need to not overthink this
Car companies have underthought (opposite of overthink?) this for years. The need to physically bring two physical objects together (the key fob and the car) just to access and start the car seems incredibly archaic to me. It is definitely an is-broke, please-fix situation to me.
Car companies have underthought (opposite of overthink?) this for years. The need to physically bring two physical objects together (the key fob and the car) just to access and start the car seems incredibly archaic to me. It is definitely an is-broke, please-fix situation to me.
Have had the gv60 for 7 months. I don't carry my keys and phone all around my house and use facial recognition all the time to unlock the car at home to grab something or check something. It works in the rain when wearing a hood, in full sunlight, and in the dark every time. It's an amazing vehicle.
I like that it exists but i would need a manual override/backup. Not only for scenarios like you mentioned where if it's down, but also in case I'm ever in a hurry and trying to get out of somewhere very quickly that whole process seems like it would take forever... Plus just more parts to break
the drawer glovebox is awesome as a concept if it's built well. could have a "lid" that can slide out separately to function as a tray/eating or writing surface, but also it could probably hold more in a more accessible way
The face key is another one of those things that seems to be trying to fix a problem that didn't exist. My car VW Golf has a normal small key fob that uses proximity kinda like the Bluetooth app. I can walk up to my car with the fob in my pocket and when I put my hand in the door handle, it unlocks. Similarly, I tap the outside of the handle and it locks. This is pretty great since if the proximity fails for some reason, its still is a physical key that can physically go into a lock cylinder in the door. Why is standing outside the car awkwardly staring at the door an improvement? I might sound old but sometimes keeping something physical instead of integrating into an app makes more sense.
@@jefferyG499 ok so hold onto something. This will blow your mind. Without a key, you can’t get into or drive the car. If I want someone else to be able to drive the car, I physically hand them the car key.
I love genesis shifters the Lexus ones are so overcomplicated but the genesis ones never miss and all always, elegant, beautiful, and simple to operate.
Thanks for the vid. My Tesla phone-as-a-key access is rock solid and works 100% of the time. I also always bring my access card in case my phone dies. Not a huge fan of my biometrics being stored in Hyundai servers. I use fingerprint access w/my smartphone - but for some reason have more confidence in the handset maker securing our data.
Why would car send bionetric data to hyundai server? Most likely it would be save in the car itself making it safter then Tesla. This seems to be better since I've had experince with Tesla phone key because of my phone running out of battery. This would be perfeft
I actually totally LOVE it! I'm especially hooked just cuz of that blue interior (which is my favorite color! I even like how that sporty, cyberpunk-esque type-ish vibes from the lime green stitching contrasts nicely with it. My top concern, though, is whether the "face unlock" feature can be tricked by using a flat 2D picture of my face (just like some phones), but I'd imagine they'd probably implement some sort of better AI-enhanced 3D detection software for something in that price range though! 😏
Ever since getting my Tesla, I can't imagine carrying around a key anymore, at least daily. My phone is my key, wallet, and phone. Carrying around one thing instead of three is amazing.
@@arthurwright255 Saving the planet by driving an EV? Nope, that would be walking, biking, or taking public transit. EVs are significantly worse for the planet than those, despite being better than ICE vehicles.
Thank you for these reviews. There is so much legacy OEM stuff in this: on/off button (why are these needed?), all of the buttons on the steering wheel (ridiculous), a rotating orb (such a gimmick and waste of space), etc., etc……
Check the Renault Captur 2018 for the drawer glovebox ;). Really cool, along with another cool features like the zipper seat covers that you can put in a home washing machine.
I wonder if we could have some tech that will not fail no matter the conditions, and it is not controlled by some company (that will make the car truly yours). A tech that so long as you have it with you, will get the job done... maybe something like a key? That would be amazing!
So my mom has a 2021 Hyundai Santa Fe hybrid. It comes with a of key fobs. But it also allows you to pair your phone via NFC to the car to function as a key. That allows you to use your phone to unlock the car and to start it. Not needing to have any access to other services. I don't understand why other people aren't using us
So I think the key is something Tesla has nailed in the Model 3, Y, then S & X 2021 onwards. I've had a 3 and now have an Y and S and 99.5% of the time, the phone as a key works flawlessly. I always have my phone on me, so I always have a working key. I love the fact when I walk up to the S the door handles present. The only times when I've found it didn't initially work, unlocking the phone has solved it. I also think they've nailed the backup key with using a credit card key using RFID. It fits in the wallet, so you can leave it there and just forget about it.
I would prefer a fob for the foreseeable future since I have to park in garages sometimes in NYC. But face unlock and phone unlock are great for when your hands are full. So not all day everyday but once in a while it’s a nice feature to have.
Tesla Card fob is pretty convenient (and also cheap to replace if you lose or break it). Always have it in my wallet so no need to worry about a bulky key or fob.
For me, the biggest barriers to switching to more convenient systems like phone key are reliability and redundancy. The perfect solution is either 100% reliable or has enough redundancy to be nearly there in practice. A regular key fob is basically 100% reliable and (nowadays) has the redundancy of a proximity system and a longer distance manual unlocking system. With Bluetooth phone key, if your phone is dead or Bluetooth decides not to work well, you could be SOL, so it’s not reliable enough to not carry around a backup. With UWB phone key (which I believe should work with the phone off at least on iPhone), it should be even more reliable, but still probably not reliable enough to be the only solution in emergencies if something goes wrong - for example there could be a lot of electrical noise or something. I think a system like this that is baked into the car and uses a standard UWB protocol rather than a more fiddly proprietary Bluetooth system is likely a lot more reliable, and having that extra layer of biometric unlock would add enough redundancy for it to replace a regular key for me.
Sure, a regular key fob is 100% reliable IF YOU HAVE IT WITH YOU. If you lose it so somewhere, there goes your redundancy (best case: you travel home to get your second fob or have someone bring it. worst case: it was your only fob and now the dealer will screw you over to code a new one). I have 100% redundancy with my Tesla without a fob because if the bluetooth phone-as--key fails, I can NFC tap the phone on the pillar to unlock. If that fails, I have a NFC wearable ring as my backup. Additionally, any other device I have access to I can quickly install the Tesla app, log in, and unlock and start the car that way. Zero reason to carry a fob.
Winter not a problem for GV-60. I live in Canada and in 1 year ownership facial recognition 100% reliable. I love this car. Genesis engineers have done a great job with everything. Never underestimate the Koreans. They are a bunch of perfectionists.
The whole profile set "bit" is super interesting to me. I once told a friend of mine just for fun, that tesla's have a function that it knows via the phone key / unlock who's sitting on the drivers side so it automatically changes the seat position and other simple settings to match the driver's profile.. And he sort of believed me and I always felt it was a missed opportunity to not have such a "key" feature. Especially I share my car with my wife, often and when she drives the car the seat / steering and rear view mirror positions are all messed up for me and a profile setting like this would be boon.. EVs as they are also super "smart stuff" compatible all the time, MUST have such a feature, IMO!!
BMWs have had that feature for ages, profile per keyfob, so it automatically adjust all the driver's parameters (seat position, steering column, mirrors etc.) in dependence what key was used to unlock. Haven't tried their latest i-ranges which have phone unlock but I've read that the feature works the same. I honestly thought Tesla had that from the get go...
@@zwerko Tesla has had driver profiles from forever, but they can also be tied to a smartphone or access card/fob. Also, the driver profile is stored in the cloud and applicable in any Tesla. Next step is the ability for Tesla to save separate settings based on the Tesla model (as car sizes differ) and apply the appropriate one. Should be pretty simple.
Not true. I owned one in Canada for 1 year. 100% success rate in heavy rain, snow, darkness, name it. Love this car. Everything very well thought and high quality
The face reader thing is concerning since other face ID systems got hacked. The weather thing is a great point. For me, I have been very happy with the Tesla phone key. I have had success with it every time, but it has been only a month of using so far. If you ignore production volume and that you do not get the IRA credit if you buy a Hyundai Group EV right now, because there is no US production of these EVs, I think it is best competition to Tesla right now. It feels like the competition we told was going to be here a couple of years ago, but happy it did make it to market. I think the Hyundai Group is making product that will appeal to more traditional buyers and has a more upscale interior. Too many buttons for my taste, but I get some are not ready to give up buttons. Would love to see how well this face ID system works in winter. Maybe a press loaner will be available in January to use for a month to see how it does.
I have the Mustang mach e with the phone as a key. It works most of the time with out issue. Benifit to the system is if it doesn't work there is a door code to get in and a code on the dash to start the car. Only needed that option when my phone has died. If the face/finger security is baked in to the car and doesn't rely on off board servers to operate it at least is a second option of phone as a key doesn't work
Thanks for this video!! I just bought my car and my salesperson told me the digital key didn’t work on iPhones, so I hadn’t even tried it until I saw this video. And lo and behold it works perfectly. So indeed, thanks!! 😊
The buttons to control the seat on the side of the seat is most likely not for the driver but for the rear passengers to move the front seat in case its in an uncomfortable position.
I refuse to buy a car without a key. Current key fobs are tiny, and even contain a physical key inside in case you need it. I find this to be just excessive and stupid, unnecessary complexity. If the system goes down you are stranded, if the internet goes down you are stranded. its like the bmw subscription for heated seats, what if it cant connect to the internet, do your heated seats stop working? Either way, cars have become retarded boxes of unrepairable high tech junk. I am glad we finally got to see the prius, a NORMAL car.
I have had one of these for a week shy of a year now. When you demonstrated the face unlock/start... I'm guessing the car was recognizing your phone? You didn't do the fingerprint scan that is required while pressing the start button in order to get the gear selector to flip and the vehicle ready to drive. The facial recognition has worked almost every time (definitely works after 2nd try), the fingerprint reader is where I've had more issues with getting the vehicle to start.
I think a bigger issue than the camera being iced over (there are other ways to unlock the car if that is an issue) would be those nifty disappearing door handles that I’ve seen ice over and be physically unable to deploy (in Tesla cars). There is no other way to handle that in terms of just not using that entry method. While it’s possible for more manual door handles to have issues also, it’s fairly rare with most cars and people in colder climates are having issues with this style of handle for the sake of aesthetics.
The rivian bluetooth being down is bizarre. Imagine standing in front of your car, and you cant get in because a server 2000 miles away is offline. Why does all this stuff *require* internet access?!
yeah i saw a kia ad you can lend a virtual key to your friend with a smartphone disaster waiting to happen
@@potatorigs2155not a Kia.
Exactly. I wish car companies - and tech companies in general - would stop "solving" problems that aren't actually problems in the first place 🤬 I was pleased to see with this car, the climate control at least has physical buttons and you have the BMW-style wheel for controlling the screen, because in my car - Seat Leon 2021 - almost everything has to done via the touchscreen which is a complete pain in the butt. Car companies need to focus on making cars safer, more comfortable and improving range on EVs and stop trying to connect every bloody thing to the internet. All I want is a good, reliable car, that runs Android Auto/Car Play, is fun and safe to drive, and has a decent enough range between charges. I appreciate my car - and many others - have emergency call systems, so if you are in a major accident, the car automatically contacts the emergency services and can transmit my location. Excellent stuff, but for everything else my phone can handle all the info and internet stuff. I mean, I actually AM partially crippled in my left leg, but I can manage to press a button on a key fob to unlock and lock my car. That's all I ever want when it comes to accessing my car, unless someone can come up with a system that makes it even harder to steal the car which - seriously - I don't think face recognition and fingerprint recognition (especially when the car needs access to a cloud database) will provide. Just a gimmick that gave the marketing department a boner by the look of it. This doesn't solve a real world problem - it creates new ones ugh !!!
Rivian targets the “adventure” market, so it seems unlikely that they’ve implemented a locking mechanism that means if you drive to somewhere with no cell coverage and leave your car, you will be locked-out of it when you return. But that’s certainly what it sounds like!
I dont trust that technology also that flipping ball that displays gears can malfunction and then what if it doesn't flip around you cant drive the car .
I own this car so a couple of keynotes: The car does come with two normal keys, so that if you don’t like any of the alternative methods, you can use the regular fobs as normal. There are 6 friggin ways to get into and drive the GV60 by default: fobs, wallet NFC card, physical keys, face/finger, UWB phone, and app.
You can also set the car to automatically unlock based on both UWB or the key fob on approach, so you don’t ever have to actually press the handle to unlock the car.
70% of stolen cars in US are Hyundai or KIA.
.....my shoes have no key......
Good that they gave actual keys. In India, there is one electric bike that doesn't come with keys. And as you can guess, the software is never 100% reliable. So it's always better to have options.
well thats really important information that i don't think was mentioned in the video
@@KenanTurkiye Which reminds me I gotta put one in for my pants.
Glad you mentioned the snow/ice/cold climate issue. My first thought was how much of a pain the face sensor/pop-out door handls would be to deal with in subfreezing conditions
there are many other issues with the vehicle that he glossed over, but they are covered in another review by Savagegeese also on TH-cam.
What about those whose box and had a bad 12 rounds? You can look pretty different when the swelling kicks in and your eye closes up. Still a cool feature.
This car is for folks with warm garages tho lol
Well it's a good thing the face recognition will be a secondary worry for you in sub-freezing conditions what with the weather also screwing with your batteries so you basically can't drive that heavy vehicle anyway
@@Peanutdenver I'm sure boxers will be lining up to buy Genesis GV60s
The seat adjustment buttons on the side of the passenger seat are for the rear seat passengers to adjust for leg room. My old infinity g37x had this.
Physical offline key is a must.
The car comes with two traditional fobs. This video is a bit misleading, since all of this fancy stuff are meant to be in addition of, not in lieu of the traditional keys.
3:18 that's the B-pillar, not A-pillar, for the face unlock camera.
I concur.
Indeed. Wikipedia sums it quite well: “The pillars on a car with permanent roof body style are the vertical or nearly vertical supports of its window area or greenhouse-designated respectively as the A, B, C and D-pillar, moving from front to rear, in profile view.”
I scrolled down just to find this comment.
@8:05 am i going crazy and that's just the camera angle, or is the sunroof moving with his hand gestures lol
@@realmoahaha me too
I've had a GV60 for a year, and the facial recognition has been 100% reliable. The fingerprint reader is less reliable, but I have always gotten it to work after 2 or 3 tries. I would not rely only on biometrics as long as the fob is viable.
Have you tested If someone prints out your face and tries it?
@@joshuatuttleby8489 that's not how IR based facial recognition works...
If you're using the regular key fob do you still need to do the fingerprint scanner to start the vehicle?
Hyundai and Kia Launch Service Campaign to Prevent Theft of Millions of Vehicles Targeted by Social Media Challenge
Approximately 3.8 million Hyundais and 4.5 million Kias involved
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February 14, 2023 | Washington, DC
Hyundai and Kia have developed theft deterrent software for millions of their vehicles that lack an immobilizer and will provide it FREE of charge to vehicle owners. The software updates the theft alarm software logic to extend the length of the alarm sound from 30 seconds to one minute and requires the key to be in the ignition switch to turn the vehicle on.
Maybe it's, like often in camera usage or face recognition, a matter of your skin color if it works well, so-so or just bad (and that's racism by industry btw)
It would be cool if you gave us visual driving impressions. I'm not expecting a full on automotive journalist type of coverage, but to see the cars you talk about in motion be cool. Even just clips here and there of the vehicle in motion would be nice.
Thats reserved for the main channel. This entire channel is meant to be shot on a smartphone. There was only 1-2 videos where he "broke" that rule tho
It would be really interesting to see the Volvo EX30 from your perspective! I don't know the relevance of it in the US, but for Europe, this, in my opinion, will be a great example of how to make electric vehicles more accessible. Great video as always btw =)
He mentioned it on the Waveform podcast, I’d imagine he’ll make a video on it as soon as he gets his hands on one
i just saw brand new genesis catching fire on parking lot.🔥🔥🔥🔥
Companies making EVs:
Engineer: How hackable do you want the car to be?
CEO: Yes!
Yeah - I don't know... I feel like it would be really easy to steal.
There's been a situation where a Tesla owner drove off with the wrong car because of their phone key tech. Look it up. I'd take the Genesis tech over that.
@@DarwinChaug i would take a Regular Key over both
@@DarwinChaug yeah and my friend said his friend got into a wrong tesla car (with so many teslas everywhere its bound to happen) and the shocking thing is that wrong tesla that he got into let him in with ease so yeah thats what happens when you try to turn your car into a smartphone.
There is worse - when fingerprint unlock came out back in like 2005 there are confirmed cases where gangs were removing fingers and hands of the owners to take them with them and be able to unlock again (I assumed this was an urban legend but there are news reports of confirmed cases in a bunch of countries).
Manufacturers added "liveness" detection so amputated limbs longer work to unlock most cars but apparently gangs still do it to see if it works or just kidnap the owner as part of the robbery...
"Just turn off when I get out" Never has anything truer been said. AMEN!!!!!!
6:58 The driver-side passenger seat adjustment is actually quite clever. You might want to adjust the seat for a passenger who might have difficulties using the seat adjustment controls because of unfamiliarity with how they work or because of their location lower down. Other cars should have that, too.
That and you can adjust the seat BEFORE a passenger gets in.
Or move the seat forward to find something that fell or rolled off a seat.
Or to give a taxi passenger more leg room.
@@simeonellinger2064 Yeah, there are a _lot_ of advantages. These things should be standard, actually.
FYI The A pillar is at the front of the car, and the camera is in the B pillar
True!
Came here to say that too
Some kind of physical key that does not require power or internet or Bluetooth is a must. I have had several occurrences with my tesla where I either left my phone in the house and needed to quickly get into the car, or my phone died after being away from the car all day, or the app (as Marques pointed out) just failed to work. If I didn't have the provided keycard in my wallet I would have been stuck.
I mean they provide the physical keycard to everyone for a reason and the phone thing is just an option
I love seeing the 55 thumbs-up responses to this comment... Absolutely stupid and negligent of automakers to not have a stand-alone key to get into a car. This is one place where computerization is really out of place and wrong.
@@cbatiau2528 Tesla gives you a physical key card and if you pay you can also get a actual key. The Bluetooth phone thing is just an extra option. The physical keycard is free and given to you.
I had my car for like 2 years before I realized the fob actually housed a physical key :D The tow truck driver mentioned it when my cat got stolen...
I've solved this with a wearable NFC ring. It's always on my finger, waterproof, and I never have to remember where I've placed it.
I've owned a GV60 since January and love it! I don't trust the biometrics exclusively but having either the phone key or my face to get into the car means I have two methods of unlocking without a fob and it's never let me down! I usually don't drive around without my phone anyway.
I’m a big Genesis/Hyundai/Kia fan. They are making great cars. I had a 2017 Genesis G90 and it was awesome. Have a Palisade now and I love it. Great content, as usual!!
GV70 owner here - the GV60 is a bit small for my needs but the 70 is perfect. Honestly, the best car I’ve ever owned. Excellent quality and performance.
I'm also a big fan. I had a 2019 G70 for the last 5 years, and it was great. Loads of fun, great styling, and rock solid reliable. Plus the Genesis service was fantastic, loved the valet service, and always getting a loaner. I've traded it for an Ioniq 5 which I'm also quite enjoying so far, Hyundai/Kia/Genesis have done a great job in really making their mark on the industry and building desirable, quality vehicles.
How does a valet work?
I would love if they still have a key fob. Face ID is unreliable, not every phone can be used for the phone key, and if you rock climb like I do your fingers get shredded to the point fingerprint sensors don’t recognize you.
Tbf there's likely an optional key fob you can acquire, similar to Tesla? Should have one included with the car imo, but wouldn't be surprised if it isn't.
@@GabrielRM I think it needs to be because you need to somehow start the car and open it before you even register your face, so imo it has to be some kind of key
@@GabrielRM keyfobs are a given, the face id and fingerprint is optional for the gv60
@@user-ko9te4jj4u I see, that's good then. Honestly I love seeing such new implementations on cars. Sometimes it really feels like the automobile industry is so far behind in technology that it makes you wonder if tech giants like Google or Apple should take over the tech/infotainment systems of cars..
@@user-ko9te4jj4uif you choose not to use key fob and only use fave or finger id, how does the car immobilise? Normally with keyless start cars if the car is driven a certain distance away from key it will immobilise. So how with just fingerprint and face I'd?
A good key fob and so seamless to the car experience. These just feel like a solution in search of a problem.
Thanks a lot for starting this channel MB, as someone who knows little about cars, these videos help keep me in the know about cars even though I know I'll never be able to purchase one, and also if say a friend of mine or anyone else is thinking about buying a car I can put in my two cents. I follow this and AutoTrader (UK), both excellent channels.
As a first time buyer looking to get into the EV market, any change of you making a top 3 or top 5 video? I love all your videos and they certainly help form a picture. But i'd love to have a direct list of pros and cons for your top picks. And specifically in my case, cargo space and passenger space (family of 5)
Keep up the great work !
I second this. But I think the one big worrying thing right now is just access to a [public] charging network. It's, for me, what's preventing me from wanting to enter but very hesitant. Yeah, there's at-home "slow" charging, but I rather it take an hour over 8+ hours to full.
If you're looking to get into an EV, the best is Tesla. Between the software and reliable charging its a no brainer. Tesla has never had that system is down and you can't get into your car problem. The phone key works everytime. Only time it doesn't work right away is if I have the phone in my back pocket and for some reason the car doesn't detect my phone right away. I take the phone out my pocket and it instantly works. Also you have a Tesla card that is the second option. So you would need to lose your phone and wallet in order for you to be stranded.
@ChipsCST no need to worry about charging from home with an EV. If you travel more than 200 miles everyday, there is nothing to fear. It becomes routine to just plug your car in once you get home. And you're not getting the battery all the way down to empty unless you decide not to plug your car in for a couple of days. Range anxiety and charging are not an issue at this point.
@@Darthmaull0101build quality is absolutely terrible for the price. Only thing good about Tesla is software. If the Germans get their hands on good software it’s over for them.
This car has no key
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And i have no money😂
There’s always someone with the “I’m poor” post.
@@mavfan1 its me
This car is interesting, and the shifter seems like a fun idea. I can appreciate what they're doing to stand out, because it's getting harder to do that it seems.
The interior looks like what back in the 60s they considered as modern and futuristic. Looks fantastic!
I'm super interested to see where the industry goes in respect to keys. We got so many options. Regular physical key, wireless key, phone key, fingerprint, face ID. I would think having at least two options is and will continue to be standard. Personally I really like the phone key as the standard with either the fingerprint or wireless key as a backup. Also for the love of god get rid of start buttons on EVs!!!
I'm hoping that in the near future most cars support fingerprint and UWB phone keys.
Sounds like a security nightmare
@@y8fpe Which part?
@@y8fpefingerprint is extremely secure and has been so for countless phones, laptops, locks etc. People can't steal your fingerprint from your pocket or intercept the signal to make a fake key. Sounds more secure to me
100% get rid of start/stop buttons in EVs!! Makes no sense, and when I've pointed this our to car dealers they just look at me like.. "but we've always had start buttons!!".
I can't wait to see your thoughts on the Ioniq 5 N. I think you'll hate the simulated gear shift mode but after hearing why they are doing it (manage temperatures, balancing chassis before a corner, general emotion of an ICE car, etc.) it makes more sense than the typical EV setup
Great job on the video Marques! Thanks for making it.
We had our GV60 Performance since 12/1/2022 (love the car) and use the key fob as the primary method to access the car. The good news is that by just carrying the fob and walking near the driver's door the doors unlock (using the car's proximity sensors) - no button to push. However once inside, the car will ask for confirmation of the driver (driver 1, driver 2 or guest). Drivers 1 or 2 are linked to specific driver setting ( seats, mirrors, radio stations). Currently I have an iPhone X and this Apple model is too old to use as a smart key - will have wait until the fall when a newer Apple phone is purchased. The best part of having facial recognition or the phone smart key, if you have ever loose your keys /fob, you can still drive the car. Redundancy access features are great when needed.
Imagine walking up to your New Genesis EV and it humbles you cuz it doesn't recognize you without makeup lolol
"You are NOT Barbie - you are too ugly"
imagine it humbling you with just your ego on. people wear makeup, big deal... get over it.
@@user_jshkdbsms What?
@@Jake-rs9nq what?
Super confused how Bluetooth which should be entirely a local function between the app and the vehicle could go down... that seems like a design flaw to me!
It's a pain in the butt. Even my Hyundai SantaFe also has Bluetooth phone controls and I never use them cause of the lag to communicate to their servers and then to car. Why is it never direct to the vehicle, I just don't know.
The Ford Mach-e implementation is by far the best with Bluetooth app as phone key but with dial on the door for a passcode as a backup.
I like that's it's a bit of 2FA. Face to get in, fingerprint to start. But better yet, it's a backup to the UWB phone key if you lose or break your phone. It's always good to have a backup (as his Rivian experience shows).
Marques, you have tested the Ioniq 5. That one also has the seat adjustment buttons on the side of the front passenger seat and the drawer glove box! Just saying ☺️
"Your current social credit score has fallen below the threshold for operation of this vehicle. Please contact the local Ministry of Truth to have your vehicle restored."
The one thing that the GV60 has above it's more "normal" siblings in the Ioniq5 and EV6 is that the Performance Pack cars have around 100HP more than the other cars (excepting the EV6 GT that has 576HP). So for a time this was the quickest e-GMP car that the Hyundai family offered. It's still a great performer compared to the others if people are looking for that.
Huge fan of the channel and content. Wanted to point out one thing I have heard in a couple videos. The pillar directly behind the front seats is the B pillar, not the A pillar. Keep up the great work, can’t wait for the next video!
I think they fob you keep in your pocket or bag is perfection. Phone entry etc has been unreliable, at best.
Must have an actual key
Those fobs are what thieves are using to steal cars from a good distance away, including just sitting in your house when your car is outside.
@@curtisbmewhy does that make them worse than phone entry?
@@SHRModding Not using the same wireless communication technology. With keyfobs they are using Code grabbing and now, relay attacks, that isn't yet (to my knowledge) being done with phone-as-key yet.
phone entry on my Tesla has been perfect, just walk up to the car and it unlocks. If I have to do my fingerprint / faceID in the rain on my car I am not buying it lmao.
"Just turn off when I get out"
A-freakin-men man. If I were deciding between two cars that I liked equally, and one did this... it would be the one I bought. The number of times I've gotten out of my car, which I've owned for 2 years now, just expecting this to happen because it makes SO much sense that it would (no matter how many times I try to remind myself), is ridiculous.
I agree I think the lights on the back look great. I also like how much feasibility the windows offer. That’s a major problem with a lot of SUVs especially small and midsize SUVs… Either the rear window is way too small and or the side windows are too small. Overall impressive vehicle.
It is very good to incorporate new technologies into things like this. Huge fan of the fact that Genesis also will provide a physical key
No cloud connected systems for security! Sorry, it needs to be local to the car only, if so then maybe. What happens when you are in the mountains outside of all cellular range for both the phone and car? Also when the battery dies then what, take part of the car apart to get in manually? I can see my 80+ year old mother in law doing this, well I can't see her trying to lift a CCS cable to charge it either! 👍🤠 What happens when you are on that mountain trip and your phone falls into the river or on the trail somewhere, hope you have your backup method to get in.
Salute to you for always shouting out people you’re inspired by/other content creators. I noticed it years ago with Doug Demuro and “This” but you do it a lot
I think the face unlock is an amazing second option to use to get in your car; like say you lost your phone and/or key fob, and you would be otherwise stranded, this lets you get in your car. I wouldn’t use it all the time but it’s nice to have
Ok the engineering part of me is screaming, "What is this fixing and is the door overlying engineered?"
"Sorry grandma, you can't take my car for your shuffleboard session because we never registered your face and the server is down" 🤦🏿♂️
I feel like this is one of those. If it ain't broke, don't fix situations. I've never had an issue with using a key fob. I suppose if you really want to reduce how much stuff you carry with you then maybe a good cell phone app? Why not NFC? Sure. You have to practically touch the phone to the car but it would work. It's a key and lock situation. Companies need to not overthink this
Car companies have underthought (opposite of overthink?) this for years. The need to physically bring two physical objects together (the key fob and the car) just to access and start the car seems incredibly archaic to me. It is definitely an is-broke, please-fix situation to me.
Car companies have underthought (opposite of overthink?) this for years. The need to physically bring two physical objects together (the key fob and the car) just to access and start the car seems incredibly archaic to me. It is definitely an is-broke, please-fix situation to me.
Short overhangs are always a winner.
Have had the gv60 for 7 months. I don't carry my keys and phone all around my house and use facial recognition all the time to unlock the car at home to grab something or check something. It works in the rain when wearing a hood, in full sunlight, and in the dark every time. It's an amazing vehicle.
What if someone else like your parent or partner wants to borrow your car?
You can send the digital key from your phone to theirs and you can also set speed limits and other stuffs to their digital key.
I really really like this format. Just one camera, one person, giving a very personal review
Then you're going to love TH-cam about 10 years ago
I like that it exists but i would need a manual override/backup. Not only for scenarios like you mentioned where if it's down, but also in case I'm ever in a hurry and trying to get out of somewhere very quickly that whole process seems like it would take forever... Plus just more parts to break
lol huh
the drawer glovebox is awesome as a concept if it's built well. could have a "lid" that can slide out separately to function as a tray/eating or writing surface, but also it could probably hold more in a more accessible way
The face key is another one of those things that seems to be trying to fix a problem that didn't exist. My car VW Golf has a normal small key fob that uses proximity kinda like the Bluetooth app. I can walk up to my car with the fob in my pocket and when I put my hand in the door handle, it unlocks. Similarly, I tap the outside of the handle and it locks. This is pretty great since if the proximity fails for some reason, its still is a physical key that can physically go into a lock cylinder in the door. Why is standing outside the car awkwardly staring at the door an improvement? I might sound old but sometimes keeping something physical instead of integrating into an app makes more sense.
100% agree. Does you golf's key still have buttons so you can unlock from far?
How do you unlock your car without your fob, though?
And how would you grant the ability for someone to drive your car without giving them a fob?
@@jefferyG499 ok so hold onto something. This will blow your mind. Without a key, you can’t get into or drive the car. If I want someone else to be able to drive the car, I physically hand them the car key.
@@SHRModding absolutely
That rolling crystal sphere with the fingerprint sensor is one the most cool 007-agent-batman-like things I've seen in a car and I'm into it.
I agree that it looks cool, but it looks like something that could break easily or cause problems...
Just like physical pull buttons in a car nothings wrong with a key/fob. Glad it comes with those in addition to alternate ways.
I love genesis shifters the Lexus ones are so overcomplicated but the genesis ones never miss and all always, elegant, beautiful, and simple to operate.
question is... does face lock work with a photo.... or does it have infrared depth sensors?
Thanks for the vid. My Tesla phone-as-a-key access is rock solid and works 100% of the time. I also always bring my access card in case my phone dies. Not a huge fan of my biometrics being stored in Hyundai servers. I use fingerprint access w/my smartphone - but for some reason have more confidence in the handset maker securing our data.
Works like a charm until it gets hacked and remotely unlocked
@@y8fpeyou can do that with the majority of keys these days
@@y8fpe Maybe, but I've never heard of a Tesla Model 3/Y getting hacked. Tesla conducts white hat hacker competitions to evaluate their security.
Why would car send bionetric data to hyundai server? Most likely it would be save in the car itself making it safter then Tesla. This seems to be better since I've had experince with Tesla phone key because of my phone running out of battery. This would be perfeft
Im liking the reintroduction of coloured interiors! More fun than oceans of grey and beige plastic.
I like that the face unlock is backed up by the fingerprint scanner not just one or the other. Seems more secure
I actually totally LOVE it! I'm especially hooked just cuz of that blue interior (which is my favorite color! I even like how that sporty, cyberpunk-esque type-ish vibes from the lime green stitching contrasts nicely with it. My top concern, though, is whether the "face unlock" feature can be tricked by using a flat 2D picture of my face (just like some phones), but I'd imagine they'd probably implement some sort of better AI-enhanced 3D detection software for something in that price range though! 😏
Ever since getting my Tesla, I can't imagine carrying around a key anymore, at least daily. My phone is my key, wallet, and phone. Carrying around one thing instead of three is amazing.
Plus you're saving the planet with your Tesla thank you.
100%!!!
@@arthurwright255 Saving the planet by driving an EV? Nope, that would be walking, biking, or taking public transit. EVs are significantly worse for the planet than those, despite being better than ICE vehicles.
@@the4fibs832ok boomer
It’s faster than the car in your profile pic
Thank you for these reviews. There is so much legacy OEM stuff in this: on/off button (why are these needed?), all of the buttons on the steering wheel (ridiculous), a rotating orb (such a gimmick and waste of space), etc., etc……
Check the Renault Captur 2018 for the drawer glovebox ;). Really cool, along with another cool features like the zipper seat covers that you can put in a home washing machine.
I wonder if we could have some tech that will not fail no matter the conditions, and it is not controlled by some company (that will make the car truly yours). A tech that so long as you have it with you, will get the job done... maybe something like a key? That would be amazing!
Plenty of keys fail all the time.
You don't always have a key with you.
@@upsilondiesbackwards7360 At least they don't depend on a random server in china being up and running.
@@travis5732 nodboy forcing you to buy this car man ....go complain about something else karen
How long until car manufacturers rediscover unlocking cars with a small metal object you put in your pocket?
Sounds like an amazing solution to me lol :)
Eventually something that's manual and offline is much safer to have than entirely online and automatic
So my mom has a 2021 Hyundai Santa Fe hybrid. It comes with a of key fobs. But it also allows you to pair your phone via NFC to the car to function as a key. That allows you to use your phone to unlock the car and to start it. Not needing to have any access to other services. I don't understand why other people aren't using us
So I think the key is something Tesla has nailed in the Model 3, Y, then S & X 2021 onwards. I've had a 3 and now have an Y and S and 99.5% of the time, the phone as a key works flawlessly. I always have my phone on me, so I always have a working key. I love the fact when I walk up to the S the door handles present. The only times when I've found it didn't initially work, unlocking the phone has solved it. I also think they've nailed the backup key with using a credit card key using RFID. It fits in the wallet, so you can leave it there and just forget about it.
Are we gonna get a full driving review of this car?
no
The video quality looks so much better than the last one.
I would prefer a fob for the foreseeable future since I have to park in garages sometimes in NYC. But face unlock and phone unlock are great for when your hands are full. So not all day everyday but once in a while it’s a nice feature to have.
Just a note, the car does come with a key fob, it just also has the ultra wideband option.
Then what's with the clickbait title
@@MaxHuismanHe probably doesn't know this lmao
Big fan of the GV60P. I'd prefer it a little larger and with more range, but overall it's a solid EV with great performance.
The interior color is awesome!
The buttons on the side of the passenger seat are for people in the back row so that they can move the seat forward for more legroom
Tesla Card fob is pretty convenient (and also cheap to replace if you lose or break it). Always have it in my wallet so no need to worry about a bulky key or fob.
For me, the biggest barriers to switching to more convenient systems like phone key are reliability and redundancy. The perfect solution is either 100% reliable or has enough redundancy to be nearly there in practice.
A regular key fob is basically 100% reliable and (nowadays) has the redundancy of a proximity system and a longer distance manual unlocking system.
With Bluetooth phone key, if your phone is dead or Bluetooth decides not to work well, you could be SOL, so it’s not reliable enough to not carry around a backup.
With UWB phone key (which I believe should work with the phone off at least on iPhone), it should be even more reliable, but still probably not reliable enough to be the only solution in emergencies if something goes wrong - for example there could be a lot of electrical noise or something. I think a system like this that is baked into the car and uses a standard UWB protocol rather than a more fiddly proprietary Bluetooth system is likely a lot more reliable, and having that extra layer of biometric unlock would add enough redundancy for it to replace a regular key for me.
Sure, a regular key fob is 100% reliable IF YOU HAVE IT WITH YOU. If you lose it so somewhere, there goes your redundancy (best case: you travel home to get your second fob or have someone bring it. worst case: it was your only fob and now the dealer will screw you over to code a new one). I have 100% redundancy with my Tesla without a fob because if the bluetooth phone-as--key fails, I can NFC tap the phone on the pillar to unlock. If that fails, I have a NFC wearable ring as my backup. Additionally, any other device I have access to I can quickly install the Tesla app, log in, and unlock and start the car that way. Zero reason to carry a fob.
Pls include driving footage and the experience of all the tech while driving 👍
A very nice, clean exterior design.
wait the winter weather call out is a good point 🤨
Help my algorithm gotta video dropping July 14th :,) xo
Winter not a problem for GV-60. I live in Canada and in 1 year ownership facial recognition 100% reliable. I love this car. Genesis engineers have done a great job with everything. Never underestimate the Koreans. They are a bunch of perfectionists.
Marques didn't even like this comment. 🗿
5 likes from yt is crazy
Do something about nsfw ads on your platform
The whole profile set "bit" is super interesting to me. I once told a friend of mine just for fun, that tesla's have a function that it knows via the phone key / unlock who's sitting on the drivers side so it automatically changes the seat position and other simple settings to match the driver's profile.. And he sort of believed me and I always felt it was a missed opportunity to not have such a "key" feature. Especially I share my car with my wife, often and when she drives the car the seat / steering and rear view mirror positions are all messed up for me and a profile setting like this would be boon.. EVs as they are also super "smart stuff" compatible all the time, MUST have such a feature, IMO!!
BMWs have had that feature for ages, profile per keyfob, so it automatically adjust all the driver's parameters (seat position, steering column, mirrors etc.) in dependence what key was used to unlock. Haven't tried their latest i-ranges which have phone unlock but I've read that the feature works the same. I honestly thought Tesla had that from the get go...
@@zwerko Tesla has had driver profiles from forever, but they can also be tied to a smartphone or access card/fob. Also, the driver profile is stored in the cloud and applicable in any Tesla. Next step is the ability for Tesla to save separate settings based on the Tesla model (as car sizes differ) and apply the appropriate one. Should be pretty simple.
I'm fine with a normal key remote, thanks.. but a secondary fingerprint reader would be a nice addition.
I love that blue interior.
Lmao. Bro just give me a fob. If it's raining that camera will lock you out.
This is kinda trash if it's the only way to enter the car.
Problems:
- Rain
- mask
- injury
- low light
- dirt on the car
apparently it still comes with a fob
Not true. I owned one in Canada for 1 year. 100% success rate in heavy rain, snow, darkness, name it. Love this car. Everything very well thought and high quality
The face reader thing is concerning since other face ID systems got hacked. The weather thing is a great point.
For me, I have been very happy with the Tesla phone key. I have had success with it every time, but it has been only a month of using so far.
If you ignore production volume and that you do not get the IRA credit if you buy a Hyundai Group EV right now, because there is no US production of these EVs, I think it is best competition to Tesla right now. It feels like the competition we told was going to be here a couple of years ago, but happy it did make it to market. I think the Hyundai Group is making product that will appeal to more traditional buyers and has a more upscale interior. Too many buttons for my taste, but I get some are not ready to give up buttons.
Would love to see how well this face ID system works in winter. Maybe a press loaner will be available in January to use for a month to see how it does.
thank you for that!
I have the Mustang mach e with the phone as a key. It works most of the time with out issue. Benifit to the system is if it doesn't work there is a door code to get in and a code on the dash to start the car. Only needed that option when my phone has died. If the face/finger security is baked in to the car and doesn't rely on off board servers to operate it at least is a second option of phone as a key doesn't work
Why isn't the fingerprint in the start/stop button?
I was thinking the same thing. I feel like that would be a great additional security layer if someone stole your phone or something
For that matter, why have a start/stop button at all?
@@jeffreysmith4586to put it on and off
@@jeffreysmith4586 What would be your alternative?
@@kingdeedeeyou put it in drive and its on, you take it out of drive its off. EVs dont need a binary on off state like a gas car
3:30 that ain't the A pillar
I was looking for this comment
Thanks for this video!! I just bought my car and my salesperson told me the digital key didn’t work on iPhones, so I hadn’t even tried it until I saw this video. And lo and behold it works perfectly. So indeed, thanks!! 😊
The buttons to control the seat on the side of the seat is most likely not for the driver but for the rear passengers to move the front seat in case its in an uncomfortable position.
I refuse to buy a car without a key. Current key fobs are tiny, and even contain a physical key inside in case you need it.
I find this to be just excessive and stupid, unnecessary complexity. If the system goes down you are stranded, if the internet goes down you are stranded.
its like the bmw subscription for heated seats, what if it cant connect to the internet, do your heated seats stop working?
Either way, cars have become retarded boxes of unrepairable high tech junk.
I am glad we finally got to see the prius, a NORMAL car.
All someone has to do to steal this car is cut off my face? Not sure I'm comfortable with that. Seems too easy.
Yes, they hold you in a headlock to unlock the car, then snap your neck and leave lol
They just need to steal your phone 😂
you are joking right?
@@misha2663 To be clear, yes.
The black 14pro looks awesome 🤩
I have had one of these for a week shy of a year now. When you demonstrated the face unlock/start... I'm guessing the car was recognizing your phone? You didn't do the fingerprint scan that is required while pressing the start button in order to get the gear selector to flip and the vehicle ready to drive. The facial recognition has worked almost every time (definitely works after 2nd try), the fingerprint reader is where I've had more issues with getting the vehicle to start.
Genesis is an under rated near luxury car. HKMC has been killing it lately.
Yes, owned a Genesis V8, Genesis G80 Ultimate and now a GV70 EV. Loved them all.
3:32, according to Wikipedia, that is the B pillar, not the A pillar.
nice one, though the same
That Genesis is actually breathtaking and has some advanced tech. I'm excited to buy one!!
I think a bigger issue than the camera being iced over (there are other ways to unlock the car if that is an issue) would be those nifty disappearing door handles that I’ve seen ice over and be physically unable to deploy (in Tesla cars). There is no other way to handle that in terms of just not using that entry method.
While it’s possible for more manual door handles to have issues also, it’s fairly rare with most cars and people in colder climates are having issues with this style of handle for the sake of aesthetics.