What if Russia Won WW1 Part 2

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  • Russia's failure in WW1 and its fall to communism defined the 20th century, but what if they never did? Today we explore the aftereffects of the Russians winning WW1.
    If you haven't seen Part 1, click here: • What if Russia won WW1?
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  • @justagreekhistorian
    @justagreekhistorian 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Great video mate! I love the editing a lot, it's really entertaining! Your voice is also edited extremely well and its quality is also really good
    Your maps are also note-worthy, as I've never seen anyone do a Eurasian map before and I must say, it looks really good! The only thing I would suggest improving are the thumbnails, as they don't seem to be the most optimal for growth
    Other than that, this channel is very underrated and I am surprised have >400 subscribers.

    • @thepmkid3752
      @thepmkid3752 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks it means a lot. You have great vids aswell!

    • @PuffleGlurp
      @PuffleGlurp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But what about the power of the Caliphate? the Shah fell 'cause he had no real legitamacy and was seen as a liberal like Kamal Attaturk (hence why his multiple Haj pilgrimages)
      The Sultan of Turkey was also the Caliphate of all Sunni Muslims across the world, I find it hard to believe the local population who'd rebel against Attaturk's secularization enough to put the Sultan back, would give up on right wing conservatism, Turkey would find allies in muslim majority nations if it is capable of exerting its role as the Spiritual centre of the islamic faith (although not having de facto control over Mecca & Medina would be a major hindrance to this.)
      I still don't think he'd lose the crown, and would probably survive the great depression, like the British Monarchy did. It'd also likely get a seat on the UN (security council), as it did in the League of Nations.

  • @Dr-Icy
    @Dr-Icy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    The Netherlands: If I stand incredibly still ,Maybe he won't notice me.

  • @VisionnaireJulius
    @VisionnaireJulius หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    There are so many issues with this timeline.
    1. A communist Germany would make the British and French more aggressive to Germany not less. It would also most certainly lead to war with the Allies (especially if they get in war with Italy: although that depends if Italy invaded Ethiopia in this timeline). Also the US would certainly join the war as communism was viewed with much more distain by the US population that fascism and the government could convince the populace by 1942. Plus the US would provide lead lease to the Allies and as the Germans would try to limit trade as they couldn’t win otherwise; they would most assuredly attack a US vessel. Resulting in justification whenever the US government wanted to join.
    2. This Germany would objectively be worst militarily.
    - The majority of generals were ultra conservative (Prussians) and thus useless to the German state. This would probably result in a purge of the German high command.
    -Hitler and the Nazis were almost fanatical in their tactics and rearmed at a breakneck speed. A communist state would in theory invest a lot of more in social programs and less in rearmament.
    -The allies would also be much harsher in imposing sanctions against the German state as the would view a communist state as greater threat as opposed to a fascist one.
    3. This Germany would not invade through the Ardennes and thus breaking France and encircling the Allied would just not happen. It was specifically Hitler going against conventional military wisdom by invading the Ardennes that caused France to capitulate. Also with worst leadership, blitzkrieg would just not be as effective in this timeline.
    4. France having the Ruhr with the Rhineland being demilitarized would make the invasion of France impossible. This is basically a stronger and more industrialized France with a better defensive position (with the demilitarized Rhineland) fighting a weaker Germany in a worst position with worst leadership.
    Overall the Germans would not get close the level the got in the video. Especially if their allies are just Hungary and Yugoslavia!
    Ps: I don’t want you to take this the wrong way as I have watched some of your videos and found them very interesting. You have a lot of potential to make great videos. It’s just I thought there were a lot of holes in this video. However it’s alternate history so I could be completely wrong also.🙃

    • @Whydoiexist.kgb69
      @Whydoiexist.kgb69 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He’s called crazy history for a reason. Plus this scenario is hella interesting

  • @Bryant-seas
    @Bryant-seas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Can’t decide if it’s a better world

  • @Horde_of_the_Swarm
    @Horde_of_the_Swarm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video love seeing alternate history channels this well done with great mapping, scenarios, and good context 👍

  • @just_hris
    @just_hris หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, my guy 👍

    • @TheCrazyHistorian
      @TheCrazyHistorian  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Appreciate it, glad you enjoyed!

  • @jamesriley2594
    @jamesriley2594 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I wonder if this would still be called WW2 or be treated as two separate conflicts?

  • @uriyalissack8299
    @uriyalissack8299 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    what are the names of the music pieces you used? And great video as usual!

    • @TheCrazyHistorian
      @TheCrazyHistorian  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      At what times?

    • @uriyalissack8299
      @uriyalissack8299 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheCrazyHistorian the one from 8:00 and the one from 12:00, they are sooo good!

  • @charliebann5605
    @charliebann5605 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Damn first video ive seen from this channel and already a fan
    Keep up the good work

  • @dragonking4999
    @dragonking4999 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    holy shit this is genuinely peak alt history

  • @mihaelavoicu8487
    @mihaelavoicu8487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Make a Part 3

  • @FodaseNaoLigo
    @FodaseNaoLigo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im shure the Russian empire wouldn't collapse.
    Russia would go towards a heavy industrialization and populational growth, we would have a gigantic empire in the 21th century

    • @TheCrazyHistorian
      @TheCrazyHistorian  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But they would be heavily affected by the Great depression and would still be under the rule of the Tsar, both of which would significantly hamper growth

    • @thedanishsocialmonarchist7286
      @thedanishsocialmonarchist7286 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheCrazyHistorianWell its Nicolas What did you exspect but it wuold change if russia turns into a constiutinal monarchy Im sure

    • @FodaseNaoLigo
      @FodaseNaoLigo 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@TheCrazyHistorianThe tsar had little to no power by 1917 and would probably get deposed or abdicate by 1922, wasn't for soviet famines and stalin's purges, russia would benthe largest superpower the world has ever seen, with 750 million people

  • @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug
    @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The French Syrian colony in the Middle East should be extended eastward with a tiny strip to create a buffer state that separates British and Russian colonial holdings. This practice can be seen in Afghanistan for the exact same reason.

  • @AscendShadow
    @AscendShadow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    possible history needs to watch out for this channel might overtake him

    • @iconic_mj
      @iconic_mj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he will trust

  • @brabius2695
    @brabius2695 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why Germany is smoking weed in the thumbnail?

  • @FodaseNaoLigo
    @FodaseNaoLigo 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Felt a little tankie bias with this one

  • @IvyThePoisonous
    @IvyThePoisonous 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Russia would still fall. (Video prediction)

  • @gasbasman
    @gasbasman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting ,but i think Russia would have still industrialised, Maybe even quicker than than in our timeline since:
    1. they could rely on the industry of their puppets.
    2. They dont have to fight a civil war
    3. They would also gain war reparations of germany.
    4. They where industrialising already in our timeline.
    5. they would have a far more balanced economy.
    i would actually think russia would become the biggest threat.
    if there would be a second war i see russia staying allied with france and maybe italy vs england german maybe japan. who knows wo would win that.

    • @gasbasman
      @gasbasman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I find the germany going communist really likely and not something i thought about

    • @TheCrazyHistorian
      @TheCrazyHistorian  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Though these points are true, don't underestimate the ineptitude of the Russian government. Even though they were receiving more reparations and exploiting the industries of their puppets, they would not grow exponentially period as shown in the graph in the video, Russian industry remained relatively stagnant over A one hundred Year period. Just because they receive these bonuses doesn't mean that they are suddenly going to magically reach the same levels of industry as the soviets. They would be hit more by the great depression.Which may or may not collapse their entire nation which would also allow germany to default on its war reparations. The only real benefit that russia has in this timeline is that doesn't have to fight a civil war , but that is offset by Being affected by the great depression.

    • @the_styler1
      @the_styler1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheCrazyHistorianthey were rapidly industrializing before world war 1, and they were also the fastest growing economy at the time. German officials stated that Russia after 1916 would be impossible to defeat.

    • @thepmkid3752
      @thepmkid3752 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@the_styler1Their estimates vastly over3stimated russian industrialism and growth

    • @FodaseNaoLigo
      @FodaseNaoLigo 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Russia would be way stronger​@@thepmkid3752

  • @josephmaycock9
    @josephmaycock9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if franco British union formed after ww2 or what if Britain joined central powers in ww1 and Germans and British be allies in ww2 or even after be allies could split the scenario in 2 such as could be rivals and have a Cold War like the US and soviets did. Great video.

  • @Youssef_2003_Antoine
    @Youssef_2003_Antoine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what app do you use to make your maps

    • @TheCrazyHistorian
      @TheCrazyHistorian  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I use paint.net to make my maps and I use Gprojector to get correct projections!

  • @fredrikjonsson-bj5ru
    @fredrikjonsson-bj5ru 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think your really over estimating the communists drive to industrialize compared to the capitalist one but you didn’t specify how capitalist Russia is in the time line but I still think it a bit unrealistic

  • @thedanishsocialmonarchist7286
    @thedanishsocialmonarchist7286 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know What senario wuold be intresting What if a nation became monarcho communist state

  • @iconic_mj
    @iconic_mj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WOW #SMART

  • @ChariTheAlternate
    @ChariTheAlternate 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heyo