Very clear and concise directions. Thanks for pointing out the behind-the-drawer bit. I wouldn’t have considered it. It’s those small bits of info that make an instructional video different and more useful than the rest.
Very good video. They are so many stupid sites on the internet that have no clue about wirings and they give wrong information. For example for the range most websites say must use 6/3 wire... While 8/3 is already an overkill. What they fail to understand is although 8 gauge wire is rated for 40A and a decent size stove is 55A... we have two phases so that 2X 40A = 80A. So when an 8/3 wire gives you 80A, then why would you need to go to a 6/3 wire?? Its good to see people on TH-cam who know what they are talking about and helping out. Keep up your awesome videos.
Ampacity would be the same across both phase branches. To me, it's easier to look at this through wattage. If stove is rated at 8kW, then we get 8000/240 = 33A. My understanding is that this amount of current would run on both phase wires, and not 11.5A on one phase, and 11.5 on an inverted. If we would like to find how much amps is running on that particular branch, then we would need to consider 120V one one phase, and another 120V load on another inverted phase wire. That means they would share the load, ie, each wire takes half the load. so 8kW in total = 8kW/2 = 4kW per wire which confirms that on a single wire we get 4000/120 = 33Amps So, 8kW range is *fine* on 8/3 wire. If the range is more powerful, then it all comes down whether a range is considered considered a continuous load, and whether wires need to be upsized when the load is reaching above 80% or so of permitted load on certain gauge. And I *think* ranges are not considered continuous load (is it because oven actually switches off automatically because reaches the set temp?). So, long story short, I've seen some electricians saying that new homes are roughed in with 8/3 wire for stoves, and it can accommodate 8-12kW ranges. BTW, 12kW/240=50A As well, I can't imagine using all 8kW at the same time. It's near impossible. Basically, every single thing must be turned ON on max.
Are you kidding me? Yes I read on here that the internet lies. I looked it up they said to use 50amp wire, which is 6/3 I had 8/3 bec I had also seen it online and they said you can't in other places. And I was thinking I have a 50amp plug and a 8/3 wire it won't work. But I didn't know that each red and black wire was 40amp each. but I also think yes that would be true. I didn't know that I thought maybe the 40amp was split 20 and 20. I didn't put enough thought in it I guess. So I took my 8/3 back and got 6/3 and now I found this. Is it safe though if each wire was 40amp = 80amp will the plug handle it? Also when I find out when i do get my stove range can I just use 40amp breaker through 6/3 wire?? Pretty sure I could worth to ask. Also all I know about my range it says 240v is that helpful enough to tell me weather or not I use 6/3 or 8/3 and 40amp breaker or 50amp breaker?
Thank you so much. You are the only one who said that it doesn't matter which side the red or black are on. I found a diagram for the plug on google but my outlet was wired up backwards from what is usually and needed confirmation.
Thanks! This Video is very helpful and the safest way installation. Very clear explanation as you do on your all videos. For me, this video is the best.
awesome, very helpful. Actually the only video I saw on TH-cam mentioned "having Ground slot oriented to left or right hand side" which IS required by Canadian Electric Code Rule. Good job!!
This is also a good video for anyone with an electric car who wants to plug in at home. Most Level 2 EVSEs (home chargers) require either a direct-wired or NEMA 6-50R to use as a disconnect for the EVSE.
Dude! You are amazing! Thank you for showing us "lamen" your professional skills. Some of us can mimic you very well because of how detail oriented you are in your videos. Hahaha. Seriously sir.
Thanks - I really like your channel. In my area (Oregon), they require the ground screw in the box to be green. It doesn't change anything, just a detail the inspector would look for.
Our boxes(Canada) come with the ground screw in the boxes, the odd time I see a green one but usually they are just zinc. You are correct though in the US it generally will be coloured as green and needs to be added to the box you purchase.
Thanks! This has been very helpful. A friend of mine doesn't have the proper outlets in his kitchen to plug in a stove so I'm trying to help him figure out what he needs and budget for it.
@HouseImprovements I get what your saying i guess they don't. The plug is rated up to 50amp doesn't mean it will pull more then it needs bec the breaker will still only allow 40amps through the wire and to the plug. And they don't understand that, how is it overcurrent lol
@@justinlambert440 Please pay attention to what he says starting at 55 seconds. My comment has nothing to do with the receptacle, he stated that the for a 50A circuit you are asked to have 8 gauge wire.
So yes. Great video as usual however I agree with Aries Waters. The challenges the 8 gauge wire present need to be part of this demonstration. In particular cutting stripping and bending wire to fit into the box. The connection is simple. There are many videos on it. I can’t find a one showing the true difficulties dealing with the wire. Videos which do use 8 Gauge cut and return after doing these tasks! Frustrating.
Nice Video. ---- Have you had the opportunity to install some kind of disconnect for an electric cooktop in the cabinet under the cooktop? I want to have one put install in the cabinet under the cooktop that looks really nice/upscale and professional that someone can just reach in and flip a lever to disconnect power to the cooktop (in order to work on the cooktop). The breaker panel is upstairs and a technician would have to run up and down the stair to turn the circuit off and on and I don't want technicians having to go up stairs. Thanks,
They would usually just be hardwired into a junction box in the cabinet below. I'm not even sure code allows a plug in ,in fact I'm very sure it does not.
Shannon, I am remodeling my kitchen. I am moving our oven/stove across the room. How can I properly splice these wires? Or do I have to run a new wire all the way back to the breaker...? Because that would be a nightmare...
can you mount one in the wall like you do a regular outlet or must the box be exposed beyond the drywall with a range/oven outlet? Also do you have to mount the ground/neutral horizontal? mine I mounted the ground/neutral vertically without considering the position of the plug's orientation. the hotwires are horizontfal(as is my electric dryer's).
They can be in the wall. They are better mounted horizontally so the cord sits out of the way and allows the range to be slid right against the wall. Also if the neutral is mounted to the top the cord will not plug in because its too tight to the floor.
Hello. So I'm replacing my really old oven 1995 ish with an old oven 2007 ish. my house was first occupied in 1996 so it was built the year before the 4-wire mandate. So I'm grandfathered in. The replacement oven has both 3 and 4 wire instructions in it. So naturally I have to do 3-wire installation. My question is, can i tap into the junction box and using 12/2 Romex, wire up to the replacement microwave, which needs a standard 15 amp service 120v ? I tested the wiring voltage on all 3 wires and it goes as such. Touching black & Red i get 249v, touching white and red I get 124.5v and touching white and black I get 124.5v. The original stove/microwave unit were both powered by this 3-wire 40amp circuit where the microwave is 120v and oven 240v. It was one big combo unit into this custom home. I realize that new codes call for 4-wire, but my device supports 3-wire so I'm going to forge ahead in that manner. But i would hate to have to run a new circuit to my replacement microwave. It takes a standard grounded plug. I'm guessing my 3-wire is Hot, Hot, Neutral, which means there really isn't a grounding wire for the Microwave. Is there any other way I could ground that Microwave? Like should I run a wire from the ground of the outlet outside to a grounded post stuck into the ground or something. Any suggestions?
@@HouseImprovements ok, the orginal was exactly that, spiced to the point where is was designed that way (the oven and microwave where all in one huge sheet-metal box). So the 3-wire 40-amp circuit just went right into "this big metal box" and then the power was distributed from there. In fact, the Microwave push-button panel also had the stove controls. I'm not kidding, you control the stove and microwave from one push-button panel....so thus I think that's why it was that way, just different design for Stove/Microwave combos for pre 1996. Now when you buy combo's , you cannot get them that way (one huge sheet-metal box with microwave and stove all in there). Thanks so much!!! Looks like I'm going to go have to buy an expensive 12/2 romex run at the hardware store...holy crap , i couldn't believe how much it costs. 12/2 should do fine and I probably need a 20-amp service for microwave just to be safe , correct? I'm guessing 12/2 should support 20amp.
I have three big aluminum wires coming in to the old box this is a 1951 house I have three prongs it doesn't look like that one is there possibly a different stove connection or oven
Can you make a video of how to extend those wires, if i want to relocate it to another place in the kitchen. Do i need a junction box to unite the 2 wires to extended? Use wire nuts ? Would you make a video?
If i made a video it would not be shot and released anytime soon unfortunately. Please use our forum we can walk you through it from there.www.house-improvements.com/forums/
What type of awg (12? Yellow) and receptacle does a gas stove take? My stoves being delivered so I'm not able to see the manuel yet I was told a gas stove doesn't need a dedicated line that it can be chained to the microwave, is this true ?
Hello can i add a #8 to # 6 wire for my stove? The original wire was #6 but due to move the location of the stove had to add some more wire but got #8 does this affect the voltage thanks
Followed your advice but electrical supply house sold me a receptacle that makes it impossible to orient the plug this way. Neutral is either top or bottom.
I removed a super old oven and I see there are 4 wires and One bare wire was attached to the oven with one screw. I don't need that outlet at the moment but if I would it be a 220 volt since it has 4 wires? I have no clue I installed 3 wire outlets watching your videos :) but this one has 4 wires no outlet
Thanks. So I'm doing this but haven't figured out how to get it completely in the plastic box. No problem for a regular switch or outlet, but with the bigger wires, it's just not going in the easiest. Any suggestions?
Shannon, to clear up any confusion, you mention 50 amp receptacle, but that may not be the circuit amperage / overcurrent device. You could explain that. And use the correct materials in your demonstrations so as not to confuse. You must have some of the correct AWG wire lying around.
would there be NEC code allowed to use 6/3 wire run up from the floor to a surface mount outlet box? The guy at Home Depot said I could but I might have thought it had to be chased in metal. Can that wire be exposed?
Yes that's the way mine was but no metal box now I watch this video because I want to put my receptacle in the wall because I am tiling the floor and don't want to have to tile around the wire
The range receptacle would generally be in the wall or the appliance may not slide into position. If you have more questions please use my forum. www.house-improvements.com/forums/
Thanks for your video. Actually, I'm in korea. And I have a question. I understand the two hot line and ground line. it is 240v. what is the role of the white line? is it nutral?
Joe it is required by National Electrical Code that any time you have a metal outlet box, and you have a ground wire, you must connect he ground wire to the metal box, they call it bonding the box. All metal outlet boxes must be bonded to the safety ground. If you are using a plastic box there is no need to obviously because the box is non-conductive. This requirement is a safety feature so that in the event that a hot wire becomes exposed and shorts against the metal housing, you'll trip the breaker to protect any human who might touch the outlet box and get shocked.
Thanks for the info. I Hit the thumbs up, but won't be going to Facebook or Twitter, cause I'm sick of lookin' at ya! lololololol.....Totally joking. I truly appreciate all of the useful information I've gleaned from your videos. Can't thank you enough.
I also would have liked to see this demo with #6 wire. The real trick as I see it is folding those three #6 and the ground into place behind the outlet. I suppose you didn't want to try and tackle this in front of the camera -- no-one can make this look good, let alone easy. I've seen installs in new construction where the outlet is left hanging outside of the box. The homeowner doesn't find out for years, if ever.
Are you kidding me? Yes I read on here that the internet lies. I looked it up they said to use 50amp wire, which is 6/3 I had 8/3 bec I had also seen it online and they said you can't in other places. And I was thinking I have a 50amp plug and a 8/3 wire it won't work. But I didn't know that each red and black wire was 40amp each. but I also think yes that would be true. I didn't know that I thought maybe the 40amp was split 20 and 20. I didn't put enough thought in it I guess. So I took my 8/3 back and got 6/3 and now I found this. Is it safe though if each wire was 40amp = 80amp will the plug handle it? Also when I find out when i do get my stove range can I just use 40amp breaker through 6/3 wire?? Pretty sure I could worth to ask. Also all I know about my range it says 240v is that helpful enough to tell me weather or not I use 6/3 or 8/3 and 40amp breaker or 50amp breaker?
Very clear and concise directions. Thanks for pointing out the behind-the-drawer bit. I wouldn’t have considered it. It’s those small bits of info that make an instructional video different and more useful than the rest.
Very good video. They are so many stupid sites on the internet that have no clue about wirings and they give wrong information. For example for the range most websites say must use 6/3 wire... While 8/3 is already an overkill. What they fail to understand is although 8 gauge wire is rated for 40A and a decent size stove is 55A... we have two phases so that 2X 40A = 80A. So when an 8/3 wire gives you 80A, then why would you need to go to a 6/3 wire?? Its good to see people on TH-cam who know what they are talking about and helping out. Keep up your awesome videos.
Ampacity would be the same across both phase branches. To me, it's easier to look at this through wattage. If stove is rated at 8kW, then we get 8000/240 = 33A. My understanding is that this amount of current would run on both phase wires, and not 11.5A on one phase, and 11.5 on an inverted. If we would like to find how much amps is running on that particular branch, then we would need to consider 120V one one phase, and another 120V load on another inverted phase wire. That means they would share the load, ie, each wire takes half the load. so 8kW in total = 8kW/2 = 4kW per wire which confirms that on a single wire we get 4000/120 = 33Amps
So, 8kW range is *fine* on 8/3 wire.
If the range is more powerful, then it all comes down whether a range is considered considered a continuous load, and whether wires need to be upsized when the load is reaching above 80% or so of permitted load on certain gauge. And I *think* ranges are not considered continuous load (is it because oven actually switches off automatically because reaches the set temp?). So, long story short, I've seen some electricians saying that new homes are roughed in with 8/3 wire for stoves, and it can accommodate 8-12kW ranges. BTW, 12kW/240=50A
As well, I can't imagine using all 8kW at the same time. It's near impossible. Basically, every single thing must be turned ON on max.
Are you kidding me? Yes I read on here that the internet lies. I looked it up they said to use 50amp wire, which is 6/3 I had 8/3 bec I had also seen it online and they said you can't in other places. And I was thinking I have a 50amp plug and a 8/3 wire it won't work. But I didn't know that each red and black wire was 40amp each. but I also think yes that would be true. I didn't know that I thought maybe the 40amp was split 20 and 20. I didn't put enough thought in it I guess. So I took my 8/3 back and got 6/3 and now I found this. Is it safe though if each wire was 40amp = 80amp will the plug handle it? Also when I find out when i do get my stove range can I just use 40amp breaker through 6/3 wire?? Pretty sure I could worth to ask. Also all I know about my range it says 240v is that helpful enough to tell me weather or not I use 6/3 or 8/3 and 40amp breaker or 50amp breaker?
Thank you so much. You are the only one who said that it doesn't matter which side the red or black are on. I found a diagram for the plug on google but my outlet was wired up backwards from what is usually and needed confirmation.
Shannon = Greatest Of All Time!
Thanks! This Video is very helpful and the safest way installation. Very clear explanation as you do on your all videos. For me, this video is the best.
awesome, very helpful. Actually the only video I saw on TH-cam mentioned "having Ground slot oriented to left or right hand side" which IS required by Canadian Electric Code Rule. Good job!!
You're welcome!
@@HouseImprovements your website sucks
Thanks for being always to the point. Valuable advices.
This is also a good video for anyone with an electric car who wants to plug in at home. Most Level 2 EVSEs (home chargers) require either a direct-wired or NEMA 6-50R to use as a disconnect for the EVSE.
are you an electrician? can this work with a non fusible disconnect? run the four wires from disconnect to the receptacle then plug the range?
Dude! You are amazing! Thank you for showing us "lamen" your professional skills. Some of us can mimic you very well because of how detail oriented you are in your videos. Hahaha. Seriously sir.
You are a great teacher, man!
Thanks - I really like your channel. In my area (Oregon), they require the ground screw in the box to be green. It doesn't change anything, just a detail the inspector would look for.
Our boxes(Canada) come with the ground screw in the boxes, the odd time I see a green one but usually they are just zinc. You are correct though in the US it generally will be coloured as green and needs to be added to the box you purchase.
@@HouseImprovements your forum registration is weird what is solution? ? was there captcha or security I miss?D>
Thanks, for not skipping ahead.
Love your videos..add seriousness with touch of comedy. Makes my projects easier to deal with. Thank you
Thanks! This has been very helpful. A friend of mine doesn't have the proper outlets in his kitchen to plug in a stove so I'm trying to help him figure out what he needs and budget for it.
Learning more never go wrong, Great Job Brother thanks for sharing
Thanks. Good info. Answered my question as to hot positioning.
Thanks for sharing knowledge.
This is still a 40 amp circuit ,even though the receptacle is rated for up to 50 Amps
Shannon, Thank you for your video! Very clear and helpful. I appreciate the dryer vs range distinction.
And the pointer the dryer has the “L” shaped plug so think of “L”aundry. Didn’t know that one.
Outstanding tutorial! Thank you.
Nice video(well lit, clear), good sound(good level and clear). Good job!
Thank you, for helping us get my range/ stove working again! 🌴🌴🐬🌴
Can u lengthen 8fuage wire for a stove? Like put it in a junction box? Or would that violate codes?? Thanks
Tanks for sharing, Well done !
Sir, thank you so much for this tutorial.
Thanks for the lesson
Thank you so much. You saved my day!
8 gauge is small for 50A circuit. It is best to go with 6 gauge to be on the safe side. Thx for your videos!
The breaker would still be a 40 amp breaker , it is just that the plug is rated to 50 amp. I guess maybe I was not completely clear on that point.
It's not a 50A circuit. It's a 40A range circuit. You don't base your overcurrent device on the receptacle :)
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@HouseImprovements I get what your saying i guess they don't. The plug is rated up to 50amp doesn't mean it will pull more then it needs bec the breaker will still only allow 40amps through the wire and to the plug. And they don't understand that, how is it overcurrent lol
@@justinlambert440 Please pay attention to what he says starting at 55 seconds. My comment has nothing to do with the receptacle, he stated that the for a 50A circuit you are asked to have 8 gauge wire.
Thank you for these videos, how would you wire if you also had a separate cook top two circuits ?
Very well explained with good details !
LOL! I literally just woke up and have to do this today and was about to look up a vide on wiring one of these :)
Don't listen too this guy....
More specifics?
He's showing and telling the wrong wire size, wrong amps for wire sizes, they will over heat before breaker trips out
You realize he said at the start that the wire size he is using is incorrect, and he clearly says to check what your code requirements are?
not a good person too lesson to when he does not use the correct thing, and as per NEC 8AWG is not good for 50 AMPS
Great vid, Thank you!
helped tremendously. how can I create the plug I need for my ceramic top? That receptacle is perfect for my home setup
So yes. Great video as usual however I agree with Aries Waters. The challenges the 8 gauge wire present need to be part of this demonstration. In particular cutting stripping and bending wire to fit into the box. The connection is simple. There are many videos on it. I can’t find a one showing the true difficulties dealing with the wire. Videos which do use 8 Gauge cut and return after doing these tasks! Frustrating.
great job explaining and very informative...
Nice Video.
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Have you had the opportunity to install some kind of disconnect for an electric cooktop in the cabinet under the cooktop? I want to have one put install in the cabinet under the cooktop that looks really nice/upscale and professional that someone can just reach in and flip a lever to disconnect power to the cooktop (in order to work on the cooktop). The breaker panel is upstairs and a technician would have to run up and down the stair to turn the circuit off and on and I don't want technicians having to go up stairs. Thanks,
They would usually just be hardwired into a junction box in the cabinet below. I'm not even sure code allows a plug in ,in fact I'm very sure it does not.
Shannon,
I am remodeling my kitchen. I am moving our oven/stove across the room. How can I properly splice these wires? Or do I have to run a new wire all the way back to the breaker...? Because that would be a nightmare...
I have the same problem did he ever answer you?!
can you mount one in the wall like you do a regular outlet or must the box be exposed beyond the drywall with a range/oven outlet? Also do you have to mount the ground/neutral horizontal? mine I mounted the ground/neutral vertically without considering the position of the plug's orientation. the hotwires are horizontfal(as is my electric dryer's).
They can be in the wall. They are better mounted horizontally so the cord sits out of the way and allows the range to be slid right against the wall. Also if the neutral is mounted to the top the cord will not plug in because its too tight to the floor.
Hello. So I'm replacing my really old oven 1995 ish with an old oven 2007 ish. my house was first occupied in 1996 so it was built the year before the 4-wire mandate. So I'm grandfathered in. The replacement oven has both 3 and 4 wire instructions in it. So naturally I have to do 3-wire installation. My question is, can i tap into the junction box and using 12/2 Romex, wire up to the replacement microwave, which needs a standard 15 amp service 120v ? I tested the wiring voltage on all 3 wires and it goes as such. Touching black & Red i get 249v, touching white and red I get 124.5v and touching white and black I get 124.5v. The original stove/microwave unit were both powered by this 3-wire 40amp circuit where the microwave is 120v and oven 240v. It was one big combo unit into this custom home. I realize that new codes call for 4-wire, but my device supports 3-wire so I'm going to forge ahead in that manner. But i would hate to have to run a new circuit to my replacement microwave. It takes a standard grounded plug. I'm guessing my 3-wire is Hot, Hot, Neutral, which means there really isn't a grounding wire for the Microwave. Is there any other way I could ground that Microwave? Like should I run a wire from the ground of the outlet outside to a grounded post stuck into the ground or something. Any suggestions?
Stoves are dedicated plugs and circuits. You need to run a new circuit for that microwave , you cant splice into the stove circuit.
@@HouseImprovements ok, the orginal was exactly that, spiced to the point where is was designed that way (the oven and microwave where all in one huge sheet-metal box). So the 3-wire 40-amp circuit just went right into "this big metal box" and then the power was distributed from there. In fact, the Microwave push-button panel also had the stove controls. I'm not kidding, you control the stove and microwave from one push-button panel....so thus I think that's why it was that way, just different design for Stove/Microwave combos for pre 1996. Now when you buy combo's , you cannot get them that way (one huge sheet-metal box with microwave and stove all in there). Thanks so much!!! Looks like I'm going to go have to buy an expensive 12/2 romex run at the hardware store...holy crap , i couldn't believe how much it costs. 12/2 should do fine and I probably need a 20-amp service for microwave just to be safe , correct? I'm guessing 12/2 should support 20amp.
Excellent video!
Thanks for sharing!!
I have three big aluminum wires coming in to the old box this is a 1951 house I have three prongs it doesn't look like that one is there possibly a different stove connection or oven
Do you need the metal box or can you use a plastic box and not worry about grounding to the box
Most plastic boxes still have a grounding screw.
Can you make a video of how to extend those wires, if i want to relocate it to another place in the kitchen. Do i need a junction box to unite the 2 wires to extended?
Use wire nuts ?
Would you make a video?
If i made a video it would not be shot and released anytime soon unfortunately. Please use our forum we can walk you through it from there.www.house-improvements.com/forums/
What type of awg (12? Yellow) and receptacle does a gas stove take?
My stoves being delivered so I'm not able to see the manuel yet
I was told a gas stove doesn't need a dedicated line that it can be chained to the microwave, is this true ?
Great video 👍
If I am moving a stove and need to move an outlet whats the best way to move/extend a electric stove outlet
Our forum is the perfect place to ask us questions like this. Please use that www.house-improvements.com/forums/
Hi Shannon
My gaz stove is on a dedicated circuit 20 amps is it ok ? I mean is basically used the electric clock and the heating elements.
Yes gas stoves are different than this .
Hello can i add a #8 to # 6 wire for my stove? The original wire was #6 but due to move the location of the stove had to add some more wire but got #8 does this affect the voltage thanks
Oh gosh I'd never get sick of looking at you. Ever. 😁
Oh gosh 😂❤❤. Canada or the Dakota’s? You guys are adorable. I just love accents 😊
Very nice explain. But how to do in main switch board.
Followed your advice but electrical supply house sold me a receptacle that makes it impossible to orient the plug this way. Neutral is either top or bottom.
Maybe your box in the wall is installed in the wrong orientation?
I assume the wire is gauge 10 romex (orange color) and is rated for 30amps, if I am not mistaken.
Thank you
good work man!
I removed a super old oven and I see there are 4 wires and One bare wire was attached to the oven with one screw. I don't need that outlet at the moment but if I would it be a 220 volt since it has 4 wires? I have no clue I installed 3 wire outlets watching your videos :) but this one has 4 wires no outlet
My Freezer came with NEMA L14-20P plug. thats 4 Pin. How i can convert that to regular home 115 outlet. Freezer can work 115V or 208V
Thank You!
Can the box be plastic or does it have to be metal in the kitchen? If plastic box OK does the ground just go into the ground screw and tighten down?
Yes and yes.
Thanks. So I'm doing this but haven't figured out how to get it completely in the plastic box. No problem for a regular switch or outlet, but with the bigger wires, it's just not going in the easiest. Any suggestions?
Great job brother
I need to know if your range is a 40ampwhat your outlet and fuse at box be
Shannon, to clear up any confusion, you mention 50 amp receptacle, but that may not be the circuit amperage / overcurrent device. You could explain that. And use the correct materials in your demonstrations so as not to confuse. You must have some of the correct AWG wire lying around.
How do I supply this kind of plug from the CIRCUIT breaker?
nice job...as usual, thanks!
You are the best!
Excellent. God bless.
would there be NEC code allowed to use 6/3 wire run up from the floor to a surface mount outlet box?
The guy at Home Depot said I could but I might have thought it had to be chased in metal.
Can that wire be exposed?
Yes that's the way mine was but no metal box now I watch this video because I want to put my receptacle in the wall because I am tiling the floor and don't want to have to tile around the wire
thank you.. got some great tips on this video..
I want to install a range plug, and so do I have to use 4 wire or can I install a three wire from the breaker to the plug?
range should need a 3 wire. red/black/white plus a ground
Thanks very informative
Great informative vid. Thanks
Thank you! It helped
What is the NEC code section for the Dedicated Circuit for the Range / Oven ?
Shannon, we wanted to ask if this installation can be made behind the wall or does it have to be in a cabinet?
The range receptacle would generally be in the wall or the appliance may not slide into position. If you have more questions please use my forum. www.house-improvements.com/forums/
Shannon I only have 2 hots and a ground it is still safe to connect the stove? I'm installing a new plug
You will need to upgrade your wiring and possibly the breaker . Try my forum for more assistance if you need it.www.house-improvements.com/forums/
Thanks for your video.
Actually, I'm in korea.
And I have a question.
I understand the two hot line and ground line. it is 240v.
what is the role of the white line?
is it nutral?
Correct, white is neutral.
yes white is neutral. In a range there are components like the lights,timer,plug in that are only 120V but the element is 240V.
Show us how to do it with 6 gauge. It is those thick wires that don't bend well that are the problem.. I found it nearly impossible to do.
What do they use 20amp 125v outlet for? Can it be use for Lincoln Electric MIG handy pack approx 90amp
What type of breaker should we use on our panel?
You need a double pole 240 V breaker . Amperage will be dictated by the range requirements and wire size is determined by the Amperage.
Imagine getting a permit or "asking the governments permission" to remodel your home
Not to mention paying them for the permission.
And then, having your taxes go up because you asked for permission
Yhea no way😅
There’s a logic behind it. Incorrect electrical wiring can kill people and not just you and your family. It can kill other people as well.
I can’t find this receptacle on wide plate on Amazon. The one they have can’t mount on this box. I have the box that in your video.
That must be a Canadian thing. In the US you'll be fine with the smaller faced receptacle mounted on a double box and put a cover plate over it.
So what gage is it? I’m using a 10 3 I think it was. if I need to replays it let me know before putting up the wall.
Most likely you’ll need 8 awg wire, 40amp breaker 8 gauge
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Hell yeah! Finishing my basement myself. Not paying the corporation any money for me to enjoy my own basement.
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Thanks. I been watch almost all your videos over the past could years. What gauge is require for a 240 outlet for a range? Thanks.
check your local code but in most areas you should be fine with 6 gauge on a 50 amp plug up to about 100' of wire.
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And same for 30 amp stoves???
Same basic idea but different receptacle and breaker.
Why did you connect ground wire to box?
It's made out of metal, same as the stove.
Joe it is required by National Electrical Code that any time you have a metal outlet box, and you have a ground wire, you must connect he ground wire to the metal box, they call it bonding the box. All metal outlet boxes must be bonded to the safety ground. If you are using a plastic box there is no need to obviously because the box is non-conductive. This requirement is a safety feature so that in the event that a hot wire becomes exposed and shorts against the metal housing, you'll trip the breaker to protect any human who might touch the outlet box and get shocked.
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Whenever I do electric work I always turn off the main breaker and shut off all electricity in the house just to be safe.
and with a house full of family I usually place a guard at the breaker
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Orange wire is #10 , that wire is a 10/3 with grd
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Against code in US, 50 Amps is 6 gauge not 8 for 40 Amp.
You will still have a 40 amp breaker for most any range unless it specifies something else.
Code ref ?
I'm pretty sure he's Canadian, so...
He did say to ALWAYS check local codes
And the breaker?
Breaker would be a double pole 40A
Not my point! I know but if someone shows one half why not explain ALL!
what you see is what you get bud. make your own video if it bothers you
He did so in 2013: th-cam.com/video/bx7alt0gvLM/w-d-xo.html
2-pole 40amp
I also would have liked to see this demo with #6 wire. The real trick as I see it is folding those three #6 and the ground into place behind the outlet. I suppose you didn't want to try and tackle this in front of the camera -- no-one can make this look good, let alone easy. I've seen installs in new construction where the outlet is left hanging outside of the box. The homeowner doesn't find out for years, if ever.
This is what I had at the time ,but you are correct the #6 is tougher to deal with.
Are you kidding me? Yes I read on here that the internet lies. I looked it up they said to use 50amp wire, which is 6/3 I had 8/3 bec I had also seen it online and they said you can't in other places. And I was thinking I have a 50amp plug and a 8/3 wire it won't work. But I didn't know that each red and black wire was 40amp each. but I also think yes that would be true. I didn't know that I thought maybe the 40amp was split 20 and 20. I didn't put enough thought in it I guess. So I took my 8/3 back and got 6/3 and now I found this. Is it safe though if each wire was 40amp = 80amp will the plug handle it? Also when I find out when i do get my stove range can I just use 40amp breaker through 6/3 wire?? Pretty sure I could worth to ask. Also all I know about my range it says 240v is that helpful enough to tell me weather or not I use 6/3 or 8/3 and 40amp breaker or 50amp breaker?
6 /3 is the new standard for 50 Amp plugs.
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