What Happens If We Skip Every Partner?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ย. 2017
- Yes, it crashes Paper Mario. But there's more :)
In doing this we end up skipping the Hammer as well, so our access to the game's many areas is pretty limited. Performing the glitch to skip all partners is futile on the Nintendo 64 - a lot of cutscenes are too unstable, preventing much progress due to game crashes. Thankfully, the game has been ported to official Virtual Console (VC) releases, notable for its increased comparative stability.
Even still, there are a lot of crashes on VC. Only a few make sense; for example, Chuck Quizmo's quizzes spin the partner around when moving them into place. Without a partner, it's game over. The details are uncertain still. Null pointers don't crash on VC to our knowledge so something else may be at play.
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Not having friends crashes Paper Mario.
welp that means i cant play paper mario ever again
Koala Anims Same ^
Minus Bros.
So that’s why I can’t play Paper mario
Forever alo-
CRASH!
Guess I cant even BUY Paper Mario.
When you ignore Goompa, you face his reality-warping wrath.
He truly is the strongest partner.
Jupiter9099 he is the strongest and yet the weakest, his curse and his blessing.
*It's dangerous to go alone!*
No really! Going alone crashes Paper Mario.
Jonathan Backo Appropriating a Zelda meme for a Mario game crashes Paper Mario. 😂
Yes
LOL
I'd say game crashes are fairly dangerous.
You beast
Just caught a Stryder stream last night. He spent three hours trying to go accross a sewer room before the game crashes and fell asleep on stream. Great entertainer he is.
MrTimy06 How many people stayed to watch him sleep on stream?
TheUKNutter all of them, it's the best part!
MrTimy06
Well, that's interesting... wonder how the stream went before he fell asleep.
Shoutouts to Simpleflips
I wanna watch stryder sleep on stream
-also because someone is going to eventually anyway, did it crash paper mario?-
This is it. After four years of posting videos, we finally found the glitch that makes Stryder7x admit this game is weird lol.
After four years in development, hope it was worth the wait.
Yeah this was definitely worth it.
Flame the Maniaac yes this was “worth the weight”
It crashes Paper Mario?
WHAT A SUPRISE
woah
Cap'nCinnamonBun being stryder7x crashes paper mario
Cap'nCinnamonBun bro
Cap'nCinnamonBun What a twist
Cap'nCinnamonBun sup rise
"I wanna try Blue House skip."
> Proceeds to do Blue House skip in a mere 3 tries
Stryder you legend.
If you struggle with it, you can actually do the same thing he did with Goombaria to onevof the two Toads in that room and get a slower but more reliable BHS. I can't exactly explain it but there's videos
**casually pulls off blue house skip like it’s no big deal**
@@virtigristhewrench i mean, yeah,, he basically plays paper mario for a living so it's no surprise he can do it with ease.
Yay Everytime I watch this video it still catches me off guard.
Now all he needs to to is do the chapter 7 blue key skip first try and speedrun badge duplication
(7:58) Because of that glitch, we were unable to hear Stryder7x's presumably lovely Thanksgiving story.
Paper Mario crashing crashes Stryder's Thanksgiving story.
omg ur correct! :(
„Oh shoot“
Big sad face :(
At this point I’m starting to believe Paper Mario crashes Paper Mario.
Just playing Paper Mario crashes Paper Mario
_____crashes paper mario
It does.
Has happened
some guy playing paper mario crashes the random guy's N64.
Remember the evil save video? I reckon a save in the sewers without a partner would be pretty evil.
Prehistoricman It wouldn’t be a permanent softlock, though.
The cartridge was "evil" because it was a permanent softlock.
In comparison, that’d just be rude.
@@eddiemate + Stryder mentions in the video how skipping partners on N64 will crash the game in prolog during the goomba king fight.
True. A possible version of the evil save video would be pretty cool
@@bluerious5475
True. Especially because if you're lucky enough, you don't even need to do speedrun movement to get out
wow I’ve never heard stryder’s normal voice without his monotone. It’s kinda interesting.
FightingMario54321 "Oh shoot!" sounded so odd to me for this reason, interesting interesting
yeah, he seems to have a lot more personality!
FightingMario54321 I
*Touching The Controller Crashes Paper Mario*
Touching the cartridge crashes Paper Mario
Walking in the same room as the N64 crashes Paper Mario
Paper Mario existing crashes Paper Mario
Breathing crashes Paper Mario
*Breathing In The Same World With The N64 Crashes Paper Mario*
Being friendless crashes Paper Mario
The King of Muffins Depression
Sticker Star and Color Splash?
Playing Paper Mario Sticker Star or Colour Splash Crashes Paper Mario 64.
Rip
So that's why my game keeps crashing. (RIP)
Kinda like healing your Pokemon, without...Pokemon.
ProtoMario your pfp is great
Your here, cool!
Yup
Weegee the CON
Dexamasama, what? why?
I think I figured it out! I was trying to think of things shared in every sewer room (or at least most) and things that happen at random over time. THE WATER DRIPS (i'm serious) the water drips must have to check for both Mario's and the partner's current position to check if the splash animation from the drip will collide with the player, the partner, or the floor. It would make sense due to having a seemingly random timing, being in most (if not all sewer rooms), and having some level of interaction with the partner. The only other thing I could think of would be the blooper battles. (also no water drips appeared in the footage at all)
Soooo water crashes Paper Mario?
Pipe Condensation crashes Paper Mario
Do the drops fall at regular intervals? If not, they might build up and cause a random crash like the footprint crash in Stryder7x's top 10 game crashing glitches video. I've never played the game before, so I know nothing about the water drops.
@@autumn4442 Yeah, the drops are pretty random.
@@autumn4442 If that were the case, the game would crash in the sewers even when you do have a partner, and it doesn't. Playing normally, the game's pretty stable.
"What happens if we skip every partner"
That's what they tought when creating the newer Paper Marios
"What happens when we skip over every redeemable factor of Paper Mario"
they did try a new mechanic aka the stickers/cards but the internet sadly hates it
Basically
@@Melecie those are battle mechanics though. They removed a lot of overworld mechanics by getting rid of them. Even Super Paper Mario had "partners."
Not to mention it opens up more stories and conflicts through making obtaining "powers" linked to characters rather than... Not having them at all.
Edit: overall, partners are better for the game than not having them. There isn't even really a downside other than extra development put into the story... Which should occur as an Rpg.
Alex Kendall i think stickers are an experimental design they tried for pmss that they kept for pmcs. also, they had to sadly cut partners out bc it will make stickers useless, like why would you bother with attack stickers at all if you have unlimited attack
there’s also paperization which makes paper mario actually have a good reason for being paper mario
but partners could return and the sticker/card mechanic could be scrapped idc
now that i think about it stickers/cards/whatever their next counterpart be could be useful as passive abilities (like food, 1-up mushroom, idk other ideas), paperization (if it returns), and things while partners return for the battle side and maybe some puzzles?
7:58 Talking about Thanksgiving crashes Paper Mario. What's next?!?
Saying that Sticker Star or Colour Splash is AWESOME crashes paper Mario 64.
Ridley Isn't Big Enough maybe existing on this earth crashes paper Mario 64. XD
yoloswag 696969696969 Using gamma ray bursts on a diamond ♢ exoplanet crashes the 2D Universe
Racist Cowboy Luigi Ridley Isn't Big Enough saying anything will crash Paper Mario
Kermit The Colossal Douchebag I got to that part as I read this
I’d love to see a no partner% speedrun
Haha! Just email a moderator on the speedrunforums for Paper Mario, lol
Yeah, the issue with having a no partner% is at the moment I don't see the ability to actually be able to complete the game. Maybe timing could end with a specific crash or something?
Liverpudlian Dream could happen with different wording
This is a live stream.
I think that’s pretty much impossible.
Hi Stryder7x! I have a theory for the sewer crashes. Usually in the sewers, there are little droplets of water falling from the ceiling and splashing down. I noticed that in all of your videos of the sewer locations, there were never any droplets falling. Could it be that the drips include partner locations for their RNG calculations, and without a partner it crashes the game?
Andrew Catanese that’s the best explaination I’ve ever heard
🤔
Would make sense since the game would try to store all of the drops which would make it crash
Andrew Catanese i wanna like it but its at 123 likes the most perfect number
It would make about as much sense as the reasoning for the "a polite conversion can crash paper Mario" glitch.
Twitch streaming crashes Paper Mario
RayquazaFlyer Streaming Windows NT 5.0 on a Mac using Facebook Blaster while watching a vinesauce video and a Vsauce video at the same time crashes Paper Mario: Sticker Star
SuperMemeGlaceon471 | That's probably for the best, considering how imbalanced you can make it with Paperization.
"Yes, it crashes Paper Mario. But there's more :)" gr8
7:58
We will never know what his family did for Thanksgiving...
Crashed Paper Mario of course.
Lol
"But for Thanksgiving, I think my family and *uuuu* I" *uuuuuuuuuu* "Oh Shoot!" *uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu*
The game turns into Color Splash.
Hence why you don't have any partner in that game lol
Color Splash has no partners because Stryder combined this glitch with time travel.
OH GOD NO!
「Big Ol' Bear」 How bad is the game?
「Big Ol' Bear」 typical TTYD fanboy.
The title of this video could also describe my love life.
Takumi Did Nothing Wrong
I like the user name! Everyone else gives him a bad wrap. It's just his personality..
Takumi is a little bitch
Paper Mario is better than Fire Emblem.
Blaming Takumi crashes Paper Mario.
btw congrats for being in Stryder’s Twitter feed
same 😂
What if Paper Mario crashed Stryder7x?
PieCreeper12 I don't know
PieCreeper12 The universe would explode
then Stryder would be in soviet russia
NuclearFarts DANG IT I was gonna make that joke I was gonna say ONLY IN SOVIET RUSSIA
Gengar 111, LMAO!
*attempting to purchase Paper Mario crashes Paper Mario*
*opening your save file crashes Paper Mario*
*looking at the screen crashes Paper Mario*
Motto of the game devs: If you can do it, it’ll crash!
Storm Galactica *being gay crashes paper mario*
Paper Mario crashes Paper Mario.
Storm Galactica Crashing paper mario crashes it
_Can we say that _*_plants_*_ from Texas crash Paper Mario?_
_Can we say that _*_shoes_*_ from Texas crash Paper Mario?_
Storm Galactica 😂
Booting up Paper Mario crashes Paper Mario.
Micah Philson Booting up Windows 3.1 in Paper Mario crashes Paper Mario.
SuperMemeGlaceon471 Using dynamite to explode your Windows xp crashes paper mario
MCPE ROBOT Using Bonzi Buddy and Pingu to destroy Protegent and PC Optimizer Pro crashes Windows ME
Oh wait, ME crashes are kinda common. So how about "Paper Windows Millennium Edition Crashes due to a bunch of viruses pumped into an unstable OS"
paper mario crashes paper mario
It actually does! Or is it just me?
Being Anti Social crashes Paper Mario
Oooohhhh that’s why my paper Mario keeps crashing
68th like, i guide others to a trasure i cannot possess
years of academy training wasted!
The true hard mode:
No partner run.
the fire emblem heroes version of oboro?
Team Awesomeness yes
Theory about the lesser mystery: Maybe Mario moonwalks because after getting off the train it tries to update your partner's position before letting you control Mario, but since there is no partner you just get control of Mario before his animations are active again.
*I lost the run to RNG dude*
*RNG crashes paper Mario*
Regularly checking the sewage pipes like a regular plumber crashes Paper Mario.
Pressing A Crashes Paper Mario Next
1 and a half A presses??
Having a head will crash paper mario
"We made it. Interesting--"
*Game Crash* Kappa
Hey, I like this format. Seeing people discover something for the first time is awesome.
0000 what is that a spm fan i see?
"What happens if we skip all of the partners?"
You get Sticker Star.
Color Splash also
So basically "MODERN PAPER MARIO" as a glitch.
beautiful.
Even in those, you still technically have a partner. I assume because otherwise the game would break.
i hate the newer ones (after thousand year door) due to the removal of partners
@@thealmanancy9020 well super paper mario does have "partners"
I’m legit really curious why it crashes so randomly in the sewers. Does anyone know if there are any cutscenes in the sewers that may involve partners?
D r e a m D a y z aka Royal No, there aren't. The only things related to partners are the super block, and other partner-like obstacles (e.g Sushi required for the water segments, Watt required for the invisible blocks).
Derek Alexander Lara Carmona Ah. My only other idea besides that is mayyybe it’s because you have no partner and when the game remembers the power up block it crashes. Purely hypothetical though. It could be the case if we tried to reach chapter 5 or 7 with an easily accessible super block.
Derek Alexander Lara Carmona - I was thinking of that as well, the Super Block. I'm assuming if we got to a super block, it'd just crash instantly upon trying to use it even without these crashes within the sewers. I didn't think of the partner obstacles, however. Perhaps since the game in a state of having no partners or list of them internally at all for the game to reference, including Goompa, the game crashes when it doesn't have any kind of list to check for partners in relation to these obstacles and potential events when it should. Since you regularly visit and revisit these areas to make backtracking and progress much easier throughout the course of the game, I guess it must do some sort of check in these specific areas on your party, and by extension your story progress in a normal situation.
Maybe to know what you can and can't do, and queue up any needed events if they're still possible to trigger. Maybe as some sort of memory-saving trick related to story progress? If you can't access the water area with Sushi or use Watt to reveal the invisible blocks because you don't have them, in example, why bother having the game prepare the checks for those partners at all? I guess it's not just a completely instant crash because the check for your party member list happens to be just slow enough you can dick around and get into places you can make stuff happen with, like the save-block down there. Or maybe this game is just somewhat broken and glitchy in design since I guess in a lot of cases it doesn't expect you to do anything but what you should be able to in that specific order.
And by somewhat I mean massively so. But who knows for know.
When exiting horizontal pipes, the unfurling of Mario is supposed to pop the partner out from behind you but the game doesn’t know how to animate the missing partner. That’s the only reason I can think of as to why it crashes there.
I doubt the crash is caused by the partner obstacles, as the Sushie docks in Toad Town don’t cause the game to crash.
Ah, Sticker star. Didn't know it existed that long ago?
Paper Mario: *Has glitches to corrupt the music, reduce framerate to 1 frame per minute and skip whole chapters*
Stryder when the walking animation is missing: "This game is weird!"
*Best quality: his wiggles*
Man I'm so happy glitches are still able to be found, love your content
Keep it up, I love watching videos where people take old games and find something new and fresh in it to make it new.
I really liked this new format! Cool to get to see the formative process of trial and error trying to understand what's going on without having to wade through a lot of repetitive footage and whatnot. One of these days I'll catch a stream. :P
"As always, thank you for crashing Paper Mario."
No partner run looks so painful
Finally caught a Stryder stream. He spent 3 hours trying to get out of the sewers and fell asleep on stream. What a great entertainer he is.
you owe MrTimy06 some royalties
What happens if you skip every party member? You get Paper Mario: Paper Jam.
TheZabaThatCould That was a Mario and Luigi game. I feel like you mean Sticker Star.
1:38 "But luckily the Virtual Console is invincible" is what you should have said instead :P
No kooper glitches
NOOOOOoOOoOOoooooo...
Well... would you consider not having kooper a kooper glitch? This is a stretch but whatever I'm trying!
Kooper is broken
Kooper has died already, so no glitches can be done without him anymore.
R. I. P. Kooper the Koopa. 2001-2017 "At least he got older than Windows XP"
Rock Radiance123 you crashed Paper Mario by saying no
I'm Guessing It Crashes In The Sewers Because Of The *Upgrade Blocks* Script Loading, Or Just Loaded In General When You Enter The Sewers
Actually, you may be on to something. The pathway to Watt crashes too, and that has an Upgrade Block.
I was going to assume it had something to do with it trying to load the tunnel animation for a partner but i know nothing about this so take it with a grain of salt
I was thinking the animation of the partners coming out of the tube failing to play was affecting something.
No, because the starting Mario & Luigi cutscenes was going to crash too
Luigi was the partner in that cutscene.
It’s so cool hearing you talk to the audience. It just makes you seem... more real.
i literally said "for god's sake Stryder" when i got notified of this upload. How can one 1-up this?
TheDeviantTH-camr I thought the same of "Invisible Penguins Crash Paper Mario".
he’s just sitting there like...
*W I G G L I N*
Your voice is very soothing. I listen to TH-cam videos while I sleep and yours have been great background noise. (I watch them while conscious, too)
What are you and your family doing for Thanksgiving? Now I'm really curious!
lol we went to go see the new Thor movie and went out to eat since we had Thanksgiving early with the grandparents :)
Stryder7x wow, that was quick. And Thor Ragnarok was really good. Not like your average marvel movie
He was eating Turkey, that crashes Paper Mario.
Did it crash Paper Mario?
E_X_P_L_O_SION9 As I said, eating Thankgiving meal crashed Paper Mario.
If there is ever a way to beat Paper Mario without Partners, the category might as well be called "color splash %" lol
Partnerless and No Level Ups should be stickerstar%
“what happens if we skip every partner?”
Nintendo: “Write that down!”
dude i love this channel so much,paper mario 64 is the best game of all time,its so amazing this channel is dedicated to this game,even if its exploiting multiple different ways to break the game,it would be nice to see some mario rpg or thousand year door episodes too
Been watching this channel lately and I got to say that I didn't think paper mario glitches could be this interesting.
8:47
mariosonicfan2010 OH LAWD there's probably a lot of crashes that joke applies to.
with the one in the sewers where you hit the save block and then you cant get out because of the crashes, that could be used in that one video that you made about the haunted cartridge
cStixx but he wouldn't be able to get to the sewers on an actual N64 cartridge without partners because the game crashes at the boss of the prologue
The Jet Squadron That's another haunted cartridge idea! Or Stryder could do a VC version this time
Did you watch the video? He did escape.
Im actually doing a playthrough of this game right now on my stream lol love your vids man, gotta love glitches lol
i don't even play paper mario, but you make these interesting enough to watch
Error! Mario is not allowed to go alone.
The cool part was being there at the Stream! It was crazy looking at all the weird stuff.
An idea I've had for a while: what if you hack to win the battle against Bowser in the prolouge?
Ben G it crashes. And yes I'm being serious.
On VC, Mario has a thumbs up although peach thinks otherwise.
The game crashes
About the Skolar crash. The game after getting Star Storm plays a continuation of the cutscene where Bow decides to join you permanently. Since she's not there, the game freaks out trying to load partner text.
For the sewers, have you tried all pipes? Or just sewer related ones? Maybe an issue with it trying to load a partner as Mario exits a pipe. The only exception if this is true is Mario's house pipe, as it's used when both alone and with partners.
Having no friends crashes Paper Mario
Well, this was..... strange.
Congrats, Stryder. You've hit 150,000 subs. I'm proud.
Also I was watching your videos a bunch because I saw you had 149,994 subs but someone beat me to being the 150,000th so I was 150,001.
I just watched a vod from a stream where stryder was playing with the camera in a weird zoomed-out/freed state and at the urging of the chat he went for blue house skip in that...rather distracting game state. The result, of course, was that he casually succeeded on his first try. What a legend
Is there any situation that crashes VC but not 64?
Rasha breaking every nearby wii for one.
Well VC is always more stable than 64, so I doubt it.
Game Over with Watt will crash Nintendo 64 - Nintendo Switch Online. This only happens on the NTSC-U/C and NTSC-J versions, and PAL version has yet to be confirmed.
in the first Toy Train Moonwalk shenanigan, the train also moonwalked! you went right from Blue Station, which should send you to Pink Station, but it sent you to Red Station instead. I didn't actually see Mario sliding around at first so I thought the train going to the wrong station was what you meant by 'Moonwalk'.
I legit thought you'd softlocked yourself in the sewers, dude. That was hairy for a second there XP
I love your dedication to this game and all its gliches
Getting that sweet sweet 10 minute ad revenue crashes Paper Mario
I don't know if Stryder reads comments or not but I think he could put on some really cool glitch runs at AGDQ if he wanted to, I know that I would go to AGDQ just to see some of the crazy glitches he could show off.
I'm a huge fan! Keep up the great work.
Love your videos and this may get lost in the ether. Im a software engineer and just wanted to give some theories on that cause i get kinda intrigued possible crashes and bugs and stuff.
It is possible the partners crash not for a dialogue reference but maybe for movement reference. This is just some theories:
- when a cut scene force movement on a ally even if it is just a small adjustment or a forced walk up to to an ally, its possible the referenced ally for that breaks it.
- the sewers problem during the crash may force a ally reference based on movement, being in the sewers, the landscape is odd with the pipe texture being uneven, from what iv played before when an ally falls behind the game forces the ally to catch up to mario, alternatively the pipe animation depending on how fast or slow you are going might force the game to reference the ally. sometimes iv seen allies forcibly move toward mario faster than normal even during a ground pound, why its prominent in the sewer is beyond me
- obviously, a timing issue for sewer crash, which is not consistent cause it seems to be possible an internal clock cycle check on a global value, which would account for the randomness.
i would definitely check if walking and THEN spin jumping which successfully go to you is consistent but it could be a combination of the two. also cross reference the cut scenes that crash with ones that where you actually have the ally and see whats suppose to happen there. movement, dialogue, both, or could be a verification. but from what i have seen, it is totally possible two different programmers did the programming differently, like trigger dialogue relative to ally position versus somewhere triggering dialogue to direct position on the map, but this would mean that it is inconsistent based on the programmer at the time lol. i never comment on stuff but i love this game and i love your content. Thanks!
Being forever alone crashes paper mario and your heart
I know what's going to happen, say it with me: *"It crashes Paper Mario"*
Seeing you this confused and surprised by Paper Mario glitches bring me great joy.
Again another fantastic video as always!
Being forever alone crashes Paper Mario.
How old is this game?! And yet there are even more things being discovered. Mind. Blown.
Not sure how you keep squeezing relevant content out of one game!
Fantastic job!
when you upload its like a blessing :)
I was there when he got that yellow brick skip glitch on stream, he was so happy lol
You unleash ur super starry magic spirit bomb
I’ve been waiting for this video ever since I saw it in my TH-cam home
This is all so fascinating... Keep it up!
3:14 You do Paper Mario glitches, of course it's not normal!
Is fun to see my favorite game get destroyed by glitches
This was actually a really interesting video!
Stryder your vids never disappoint!
I think you're still equipped with a partner object that just doesn't have an assigned partner value. The game still attempts to check/retrieve relevante data from this object for collision, coordinates or other values. If certain partners have larger or smaller collision boxes or behave differently, the game can crash if it expect a non existant value in a X condition.
I have a quick little question, why did you make the Anti-Guy your logo?
Jordan The Gamer I think cause anti guy is broken in this game with how powerful he is so it's probably some kind of analogy for how broken the game is...
you can't just ask someone why they're black
I think the sewer issue is that in the Prologue and Epilogue, Mario can freely walk throughout all of Toadtown alone. Which means that there is an if function for Mario coming out of a pipe alone, and the script ends normally. But in the sewers, a place you can only come in with partners, there isn't- it loads Mario, then it gives a few seconds to load the partner's animations. However, there's no partner, so you're on a timer before the game crashes. Entering a pipe seems to immediately override any partner animations/Mario animations, so this is why you can get out before it crashes most of the time, assuming you do it quick enough. The sewer itself seems to be one large, interconnected map just like the overworld areas, with the difference that entering it always involves the pipe and the pipe animation.
Paper Mario really is the gift that keeps on giving for all those who love glitches.