Seems the Army is letting Ukraine have most their inventory of them so not so limited, you know the US army they don't do small . They have a new missile system and were already phasing them out . Funny how older western tech is as good as or often better than the newest Russian tech
@@randym7961 I don't think so. You forget the recent need to approve 65 billion for Ukraine and Israel. Besides, US is bound to mark up the price of each weapon reaching Ukraine. Besides, where did you think US black ops get their billions in funding. The hidden paper money trail. We are not even talking about corruption. Nay. Think. uS has thousands of Abrams m1. Yet we are seeing less than 100 supplied to Ukraine. You got the wrong end. US ain't life and soul into Ukraine.
@randym79619K720s are soviet era systems---the kremlin to would like to expedite old stocks, and there are vast stocks russia is a huge country and defending it is a full-time industry and effort. i am impressed with the russian maintenance culture of its systems....
@@D-E-S_8559 If you are talking about the Iskanders who knew the Soviet Union was still around in the 2000s lol the USSR fell almost 20 years before they went into service . Also maintenance and Russian equipment are not two words that should be used in the same sentence ! If Russia maintained its equipment better it wouldn't have lost so much of it from breaking down .. A good portion of the Tanks APCs etc etc that Ukraine has captured were because of poor maintenance by your military ! We have all seen the many many videos of farmers hauling tanks etc off with their tractors . And you guys get excited over to 40+ year old western tanks that were broken down when you found them and then you guy shot them lol..
@@JustMe-zu2mlstop crying now , desperation can't disprove the fact that ATACMS were shot down .. and we know the faith of F 16s .. like those game changer , abrams , leopards , challengers , HIMARS etc .......
Yastreb AV destroyed by HIMARS before the new car, vodka smell was even gone. Lol. Two hours after it was deployed--to stop the HIMARS the HIMARS found it and it destroyed exactly ONE HIMARS missile. To date 6 S400's burned to ashes. That doesn't include the aircraft, Russian soldiers, and ammo dumps destroyed by the HIMARS. The orcs had to move their Black Sea fleet because they were afraid of the HIMARS. Keep talking. Your tears betray you
Les peuples payent une guerre, qui est celle des costumes cravates, du CAC 40, Davos....Des centaines de milliers de pauvres gens en meurent ☪️☦️✝️❤️🕊️🌏☮️🙏🏼
Dont forget america has thousands of them....and has the money, parts and labour force to make ten times as many...russia is broke and sanctions for parts limits them
@@brandonlongdikjones8117 ATACMS are old stock, if Ukraine doesn't use them they would be discarded anyway. There are thousands of them, just sitting there already made.
That why they are officially sending troops now . The Himars did had some success though in the first months .took the Russians slightly longer to figure out how to deal with them!
ATACMS is destroying a lot of fuel depots and s400 defense systems. S400 can not defend itself against ATACMS. Just destroyed fuel depot in Luhansk. Cold hard facts hurt. So do ATACMS
@@axmat3436 no they didn't. First atacms is a 1980s era missile which means that it isn't a game changer and second, the west never said that. Probably all those western bots said that atacms was a game changer but the government and military never said that.
Two important caveats. First, Iskander operates on a quasi-ballistic trajectory in the final section, which makes it a much more difficult target for air defense. Secondly, Iskander also has a version with a cruise missile, which, due to the low altitude, is also difficult to detect. And I hope everyone understands that the 500 km range limit is an artificial restriction due to compliance with the treaty on medium and short-range missiles, which is no longer valid?
Both are ballistic, but not that rus s400 etc is so succesful shooting down missiles, as like 15 of those systems got destroyed by Ukraine lol, many more buks, tors, strella, pantsir etc too.
sempre foi a guerra do t3..... só atinge civis com kinzalius, zircons , iskanders e armas químicas. Com as mãos atadas,sem munições e com o tra.mpas americano contra o Zelenski , mesmo assim ,, bummmmmmm 💥 tropas putins derrotadas na Ucrânia? Simples . 483 mil mortos __ Inutilizados, paralíticos e evaporados no éter ___ desaparecidos ? 80 mil.Wagners extintos a 78% em Bakmut , todos aniquilados ,normal . Prisioneiros russos? 20 mil para a troca ahahaha. Aviões,barcos, refinarias? Bummmmmm 💥 ás dezenas . Refinarias ? 22 % da produção mosk0w off. __ 7350 tanques e 70 mil veículos diversos bummmmmm 💥 ____ Cercados pela nato,, Finlândia, Suécia, Bálticos, Polónia e Noruega rsssssskkkkkkkl hurraaa vivaaaaaaa urraaaa Ou seja ,os heróis Ucranianos sòzinhos devastaram 70% do fraco exército russo,se fosse com a NATO ou América, putinsss estavam derrotados há 23 meses na Ucrânia . Depois,por vingança, putinsss envia kinzalius , zircons , ataca a central nuclear e armas químicas para atingir mulheres, acamados, idosos, bebés, crianças, patos e galinhas na Ucrânia. Go Crimeia sempre foi e será Ucrânia livre 🇺🇦🔱🇺🇦
It is an insult to compare the 2 since it is proven that Russia was able to shoot down more than 50 percent of atacms whereas Ukraine has shot 0 per ent of iskander
comparing which weapon can devastate more truly shows how far we have fallen as people. hope to see a day when we all live peaceful regardless of our political system, race or status.
Iskander has greater range, and high max velocity making it much harder to shoot down. ATACMS was defeated with GPS jamming and hard-kill systems from day 1. A variant called the Kinzhal can be mounted on fighter aircraft. ATACMS's can be launched from a more mobile HIMARS platform. Overall, Iskander has more benefits
But atacms destroyed a s400, so what gives? Atacms is also harder to jam because it can still be accurate when jammed because of it's inertial navigation GPS system. (Anyways, finally someone who knows stuff and isn't just biased)
@@nintendoandwowsblitz It depends on the target. I don't think inertial guidance is accurate enough to hit truck sized targets. If aimed at buildings, it might still hit the building or an adjacent building.
Western weapons were over hype as game changers but Ukrainian war has humbled them and has destroyed their reputation ,it works well against a third rate army like Iraq ,Afghanistan and Civilian militias etc
ATACMS is replaced with PrSM missiles, so the warehouses are emptied for new goods, so its price is irrelevant because it is being disposed of. Anyone who gets it in large quantities can do a lot of damage with this precise and deadly weapon.
Iskander-M is not as reliant on Satellite guidance as ATACMS, it is more resistant to jamming because of inertial navigation and advanced laser gyroscopes
@@jajasariaAnother day, so what, you going to the front t count how long it takes or no , plus you don't even know who said that "days" thing to begin with obviously 😅
@@AnthonyKyprosi am an indian. I bought russian made pressure cooker from saudi arabia and brought to my indian. home. That was wonderful cooker. Russians Russians make
❤Come on Guyz this is an insult .Even non military guyz know thez no answer to Iskander missiles. NO nation has absolutely none has an answer to Iskanders
With the mentioned comparison and destructions caused by, Iskander is more superior than the ATACMS. As shown several of the latter were shot down and failed to do havoc on the target.
"Sub-munitions" means cluster weapons which are banned by most countries. Russia still uses Soviet era cluster warheads but ceased developing them and does not manufacture any. This is because although it is not an official signatory of the UN Convention on Cluster Munitions (2010), CIS affiliated states voted to end production and use. Russia was in no position to disagree and had learned horrible lessons in the Chechen War. The USA is the only known manufacturer of cluster munitions and deploys 3 especially cruel types, some with timers. The USA, Poland, Romania, Latvia and Estonia are not signatories to the 2010 UN law. The 1992 raid on a Russian Navy airfield in disputed Crimea used timed cluster weapons which could not have been launched by Ukraine.
Russia cluster munitions have a much higher rate of failure to explode than the United States. Russia has used them against Ukraine long before Ukraine received the United States older cluster munitions . Claiming unlimited supply .Putin bragged about Russia's massive stock pile of them. Besides the new and improved cluster munitions that are a much lower failure rate then Russia. The US has powerful cluster bombs that do not explode. It’s steel spheres that devastate enemy soldiers. But does not leave un exploded ordinance on the ground. Being much safer than Russian cluster munitions. Unexploded ordnance kills people long after wars end. And it’s all over Ukraine. If you think Russia is ethical and worried about civilian casualtiesJust look at the Ukraine landscape. And all the leveled cities. The US does not send its latest upgraded weapons to Ukraine. Keep up the wishful thinking!
This video was made 4 months ago. We now know that the ATCMS "game changer" was just a word the NATO comments trolls liked to repeat because they thought it sounded cool. People with the mentality of children...where are they now? Oh, and for people reading this in 10 years, the next "game changer", the F16 jets, have also been pulled by NATO before they could see action. This was due to either a Ukrainian ace pilot not being able to handle it, or because it fell apart while he was doing a maneuver he was accustomed to doing in a mig or su fighter jet. The west covered it up, so we may never really know 🙄
Iskander is far more advanced and more deadlier than ATACMS. Russians have shot down many ATACMS while Ukraine & NATO haven't shot down any Iskander missile.
The amount of bs that pooty troll farm can spew, it's mind numbing.. 😂 At least 50% of pooty's iskanders have been intercepted if not more.. If pooty's iskander was so potent, kiev must have fallen by now cos there can't be any patriots shielding kiev's skies 😂
@@tomvlodek6377 so you are saying that kiev has fallen? Pooty's iskander has neutralized all the patriot systems shielding kiev's skies?? Dang!! How did the world media miss such an important update??
@@bekeneel right, unlike you that thinks the Russians ran out of missiles in April 2022, ran out of ammunition and are using shovels, and thinks the ukrops are winning and EVER had a chance 😂🙄🤭
@@DanielDeBenoit much more missiles? Ukraine has exhausted almost all European stockpiles , American too, how can Russia have more missiles than 50 countries combined?
biden: do we have hypersonic missiles? Military expert: No sir, we are not that advanced sir. biden: But we have more money. Military expert: I understand sir, but the Russians have more brains.
What are you comparing Details would vary but roughly one can say that the Iskander is 2X speed, 3X warhead weight, 2X range compared to the ATACMs The 300 km range ATACMs barely carries a warhead of 174 Kgs Creating sensational sounding videos are you
@@SnakePliskin762 uhhh, no, you’re the one who’s shameless and continues embarrassing himself after given the opportunity to slither back into the hole he crawled out of…
It's a stupid comparison and a pointless debate. The two missiles and their associated technologies are completely different and intended for different purposes. Regardless, in Ukraine, Iskander is being used - but not exclusively - to destroy ATACMS, sometimes before they even get a single shot off. There is nothing particularly magic about ATACMS. They are just another missile in a multiple battery mounted on a 6 x 6 truck. They are not especially or singularly more mobile than anything in the Russian collection. In Russian off-road machines are infinitely superior in its often snow-bound or swampy or boggy terrain. Russia remains the master of tracked or multi-axle off-road vehicles.
Russia created a purpose built Iskander missile with it's own military industrial complex. NATO purchased a profit driven ATACMS missile from it's own military industrial complex, sold from the lowest bidder. Purpose built probably wins, but that remain to be seen.
Overall, iskander has a bit longer range and speed. They both can carry cluster warhead and has a similar payload depending on the variant. Atacms destroyed an s400 but iskander destroyed a himars. Overall basically the two missiles are built on the same concept- short range ballistic missile. Bottom line the iskander has better benefits. but the atacms was not built to be a very advanced missile, the US in 1980 just wanted a basic short range tactical ballistic missile, nothing advanced.
Because Iskander has great range the Vehicle carrying this can be saved and can be used for another time. Missile wise both are accurate, devastation wise Iskander is higher. I have seen videos of HIMAR vehicle / carrier itself getting destroyed but no Iskander carrier ever got destroyed that speaks volume about Iskander.
What a useless and unnecessary comparison 😮!!! There’s no equivalent to Iskander, in the whole of nato and is like, comparing a bull to an elephant! WHAT A BELITTLE JOKE
😂😂 Sure, they said same about the S400 until we seen it on the battlefield. Ukraine destroyred like 15 batteries already. S400 can't even stop the missiles obliterating them 😂😂 lots of rus scrap metal.
@@bekeneel What are you high on, I hope it’s not that stupid stuff the cia are fending cocainsky with? There’s no s400 in the battle field in Ukraine hence, the Bear has more other capable defensive weapons that could deal with those nato inconsequential weapons! S400 was not made for such gorilla drones strike that the Ukraines are now employing out of desperation! To burst your bubble S500 is now slated to join the fray and more headache for nato.
The main shackle on ATACMS is the US insistence on Ukraine only using them within its internationally agreed borders, which includes Ukraine and other territory illegally seized by the invasions. If Ukraine was allowed to hit sources within Russia, maybe Russia would not be crowing.
To be fair Ukraine isn't the originator of these arms so it must abide by the dictates of it's arms suppliers. Russia produces it's own arms so it can use them as it sees fit. There is no fairness in war and these two brothers need to patch up their differences. That may ruffle some feathers, but it's the only way for these two civilizations to move forward some day once all the mutual anger is flushed out.
Difficult to compare since Ukraine and Russia target different sorts of objects. In theory, we could find out which system works better the next time Russia targets Kharkiv by sending the exact numbers of ATACMS and drones to Belgorod. In practice, this won't work since Ukraine is not Russia.
ukraine can filled maximum 1.5 million more men.According to ex polish cheief of staff rajmund chejk already 10 lakh ukrainians died .Ukraine can survive this for maximum 2 more years
Because there is not enough air defense in Ukraine. Its make US had no guts to send their best Jet Fighters.. it will end up as metal scraps. And automatically will make a vertical drop for tge price market.
Atacms are limited while iskandar are in full production and direct supplies. No prize for guessing.
Seems the Army is letting Ukraine have most their inventory of them so not so limited, you know the US army they don't do small . They have a new missile system and were already phasing them out . Funny how older western tech is as good as or often better than the newest Russian tech
@@randym7961 Funny how the West with all their "game changers'"' are ALWAYS the losers in a war against Russians!
@@randym7961 I don't think so. You forget the recent need to approve 65 billion for Ukraine and Israel. Besides, US is bound to mark up the price of each weapon reaching Ukraine. Besides, where did you think US black ops get their billions in funding. The hidden paper money trail. We are not even talking about corruption.
Nay. Think. uS has thousands of Abrams m1. Yet we are seeing less than 100 supplied to Ukraine.
You got the wrong end.
US ain't life and soul into Ukraine.
@randym79619K720s are soviet era systems---the kremlin to would like to expedite old stocks, and there are vast stocks russia is a huge country and defending it is a full-time industry and effort. i am impressed with the russian maintenance culture of its systems....
@@D-E-S_8559 If you are talking about the Iskanders who knew the Soviet Union was still around in the 2000s lol the USSR fell almost 20 years before they went into service . Also maintenance and Russian equipment are not two words that should be used in the same sentence ! If Russia maintained its equipment better it wouldn't have lost so much of it from breaking down .. A good portion of the Tanks APCs etc etc that Ukraine has captured were because of poor maintenance by your military ! We have all seen the many many videos of farmers hauling tanks etc off with their tractors . And you guys get excited over to 40+ year old western tanks that were broken down when you found them and then you guy shot them lol..
Seriously? Iskander never been shot down in two years of combat, while ATACMS shot down in first week of use. What an insult....
Yeah, OK. They've apparently taken down F-16s that haven't even reached Ukraine yet too 🤣
@@JustMe-zu2mlstop crying now , desperation can't disprove the fact that ATACMS were shot down .. and we know the faith of F 16s .. like those game changer , abrams , leopards , challengers , HIMARS etc .......
Go and take more copium.😂@@JustMe-zu2ml
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Iskander is failed missile😂😂
Not accuracy .
Only hit in homes,house complexes,schools,hospitals 😢
Difference : ATACMS is a missile designed for Hollywood. Iskandar M is designed for wars
The iskandar has shown it's worth. The ARACMS is very expensive and not that great. America should have kept the good weapons back
Apparently Iskander was designed for attacking civilian infrastructure and post offices (based on what it's currently being used for)
Yastreb AV destroyed by HIMARS before the new car, vodka smell was even gone. Lol. Two hours after it was deployed--to stop the HIMARS the HIMARS found it and it destroyed exactly ONE HIMARS missile.
To date 6 S400's burned to ashes. That doesn't include the aircraft, Russian soldiers, and ammo dumps destroyed by the HIMARS. The orcs had to move their Black Sea fleet because they were afraid of the HIMARS. Keep talking. Your tears betray you
Awesome take!
really?
The refrigerator parts defeated the West.
this says a lot about nato and amerika
Don't forget ATACMS might cost 10x more
Les peuples payent une guerre, qui est celle des costumes cravates, du CAC 40, Davos....Des centaines de milliers de pauvres gens en meurent ☪️☦️✝️❤️🕊️🌏☮️🙏🏼
Dont forget america has thousands of them....and has the money, parts and labour force to make ten times as many...russia is broke and sanctions for parts limits them
It's old outdated tech us mil doesn't even use it anymore
It's 1960 tech
@@deepnurmom1737does that mean it still doesn't cost ten times more than the Iskander or no?
@@brandonlongdikjones8117 ATACMS are old stock, if Ukraine doesn't use them they would be discarded anyway. There are thousands of them, just sitting there already made.
Which US-made toy ever won in Ukraine?
That why they are officially sending troops now . The Himars did had some success though in the first months .took the Russians slightly longer to figure out how to deal with them!
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@@kamalchandramoney3541troops won’t help, they will only get droned into oblivion
@@kamalchandramoney3541How is the s-400 and s-300 doing in Ukraine getting pooped on by himars and atacms left and right? 😂😂
F35?
Even the KIMskander is better than ATACMS .
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ATACMS is destroying a lot of fuel depots and s400 defense systems. S400 can not defend itself against ATACMS. Just destroyed fuel depot in Luhansk. Cold hard facts hurt. So do ATACMS
Hahaha 😂😂
Iskander is like a tiny nuclear blast, accurate and faster than ATCMS.
ISKANDER of course, massively produced over handful of atacms that are being donated.
Atacms 1980s missile have you guys realised that yet?
@nintendoandwowsblitz
But Western Media told that ATACMS is gamechanger
@@axmat3436 no they didn't. First atacms is a 1980s era missile which means that it isn't a game changer and second, the west never said that. Probably all those western bots said that atacms was a game changer but the government and military never said that.
Two important caveats. First, Iskander operates on a quasi-ballistic trajectory in the final section, which makes it a much more difficult target for air defense. Secondly, Iskander also has a version with a cruise missile, which, due to the low altitude, is also difficult to detect. And I hope everyone understands that the 500 km range limit is an artificial restriction due to compliance with the treaty on medium and short-range missiles, which is no longer valid?
Both are ballistic, but not that rus s400 etc is so succesful shooting down missiles, as like 15 of those systems got destroyed by Ukraine lol, many more buks, tors, strella, pantsir etc too.
@@bekeneel Ukraine has systems too ?
The Russians already shot down a salvo of atacms over Crimea the other day.
@@bekeneel 🙄
sempre foi a guerra do t3..... só atinge civis com kinzalius, zircons , iskanders e armas químicas.
Com as mãos atadas,sem munições e com o tra.mpas americano contra o Zelenski , mesmo assim ,, bummmmmmm 💥
tropas putins derrotadas na Ucrânia?
Simples . 483 mil mortos __ Inutilizados, paralíticos e evaporados no éter ___ desaparecidos ? 80 mil.Wagners extintos a 78% em Bakmut , todos aniquilados ,normal .
Prisioneiros russos? 20 mil para a troca ahahaha.
Aviões,barcos, refinarias? Bummmmmm 💥 ás dezenas .
Refinarias ? 22 % da produção mosk0w off.
__ 7350 tanques e 70 mil veículos diversos bummmmmm 💥
____ Cercados pela nato,, Finlândia, Suécia, Bálticos, Polónia e Noruega rsssssskkkkkkkl hurraaa vivaaaaaaa urraaaa
Ou seja ,os heróis Ucranianos sòzinhos devastaram 70% do fraco exército russo,se fosse com a NATO ou América, putinsss estavam derrotados há 23 meses na Ucrânia .
Depois,por vingança, putinsss envia kinzalius , zircons , ataca a central nuclear e armas químicas para atingir mulheres, acamados, idosos, bebés, crianças, patos e galinhas na Ucrânia.
Go Crimeia sempre foi e será Ucrânia livre 🇺🇦🔱🇺🇦
It is an insult to compare the 2 since it is proven that Russia was able to shoot down more than 50 percent of atacms whereas Ukraine has shot 0 per ent of iskander
Proven where? Source? It’s just a short range ballistic missile from the 1980s.
@@loudtim265
I hope you got the proof now?
@@loudtim265 this nafo clown wants source now bahahaha
Atacms destroyed s400 and s500 though. And cluster warhead atacms damaged a russian city. The two are equivalent to each other.
@@nintendoandwowsblitz Iskander ate Himars, Patriot and Atacms for lunch. He the daddy of all 😂😂😂
Iskander-M is more destructive.
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comparing which weapon can devastate more truly shows how far we have fallen as people. hope to see a day when we all live peaceful regardless of our political system, race or status.
It is quite a long time to read a very sensible comment to a very stupid heartless comparison by CRUX.
We surely as humans riding the speed train to self destruction, most countries now spend more on military than education and health care
Tell Pooty to stop invading his neighbors to steal their territory and resources
I agree! Unfortunately, it hasn't happened yet in the history of Humans - from prehistoric to the present. It doesn't say much for Humans....
@@JamesStreet-tp1vb Tell NATO warmongers to stay away from Russia's border!
Iskander has greater range, and high max velocity making it much harder to shoot down. ATACMS was defeated with GPS jamming and hard-kill systems from day 1. A variant called the Kinzhal can be mounted on fighter aircraft. ATACMS's can be launched from a more mobile HIMARS platform. Overall, Iskander has more benefits
But atacms destroyed a s400, so what gives? Atacms is also harder to jam because it can still be accurate when jammed because of it's inertial navigation GPS system. (Anyways, finally someone who knows stuff and isn't just biased)
@@nintendoandwowsblitz RF jamming jams GPS guidance. It might still be able to use inertial guidance as a back-up, but it's far less accurate.
@@EnigmaHood at least it isn't completely jammed and rendered useless like other missiles would.
@@nintendoandwowsblitz It depends on the target. I don't think inertial guidance is accurate enough to hit truck sized targets. If aimed at buildings, it might still hit the building or an adjacent building.
You should be comparing ATACMS to North Korea missile
ATACMS loose the economic war against Iskandar
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Does it really though when atacms be hitting russian s400, oil refineries and russia airbases in russia and occupied territory of ukraine
no it doesnt because the US is significantly more stronger economically than Russia. literally look at the budgets.
when has it hit an oil refinery it has 300km range acting like it’s unlimited 😂😂
@Ryan-ms3fk You do realize that putting more laughing emojis in your post doesn't change the fact that Russia is weak right?
Islander M is more deadly
ATACMS distroyed russian made s-400 to scrap metals......hahahaha
@@arielalicaway-p7s😂according to who jewlensky
@@gregnelson5022 😁🤣according to who PuTIN he is the best comedian and joker🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Western weapons were over hype as game changers but Ukrainian war has humbled them and has destroyed their reputation ,it works well against a third rate army like Iraq ,Afghanistan and Civilian militias etc
Well considering Iskanders slam Odesa and Kharkov on a regular basis while all ATACMS fired at Crimea were downed the answer is clear
That is completely false.
@@Tom-yy2cm prove it!!
Atacms is more powerful on civilian targets
Didnt even close to Iskander.. while Russia have Kinzhal. 😢
ATACMS is replaced with PrSM missiles, so the warehouses are emptied for new goods, so its price is irrelevant because it is being disposed of. Anyone who gets it in large quantities can do a lot of damage with this precise and deadly weapon.
everytime uki use it, they got strike back 10x n then selinski cries for armament
ATACMs are being destroyed over Russia but Iskander has been invincible. Where is the comparison charlie ?
Saying US can defeat Russia is like saying biden can run up the stairs without stumbling.
Ignore my previous comment and I apologise, I misread what you wrote 🙏
Hhhh the funniest comment that makes me laugh every time
Iskander super
But the vehicle is much larger and heavier. HIMARS can get to many more places easily.
Iskander, not so much.
@@iamTheSnarkHIMARS is useless now , it's been taken down like nothing with electronic warfare systems
@@iamTheSnarkislander doesn’t need to get to anywhere that’s why they have a longer range
@@johnwi-l_l-iamsf3763 u haven't been paying attention son 😂😂 himars still very effective.
Iskander-M is not as reliant on Satellite guidance as ATACMS, it is more resistant to jamming because of inertial navigation and advanced laser gyroscopes
⚒⛏nowadays Russian shovels are more lethal than ever -- U.S weapon analyst 😅
And their washing machines are pretty good too.
okay kid. its seem you are happy to repeat the "shovel" word but forgot the "days".
@@jajasariaAnother day, so what, you going to the front t count how long it takes or no , plus you don't even know who said that "days" thing to begin with obviously 😅
@@AnthonyKyprosi am an indian. I bought russian made pressure cooker from saudi arabia and brought to my indian. home. That was wonderful cooker. Russians Russians make
@@jajasaria right , that's plural. I mean the present time and the future except the past. Mr. English 😎
Iskander wins.
To be fair compare iskander to USA stealth missiles. Someone just fast and someone hard to detect.
Iskander definitely.❤ Russia
Modo Wa jobaaaa
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Russian budget when Putin seated has been able to use it by upgrading the Russian weapons meanwhile USA used their economic by starting a war 😂😂
Iskander is 10x cheaper to produce but 10x stronger than ATACMS.
Source: pooty bot farm.
A simple Google would say iskander costs 3 million apiece and atacms costs barely a million apiece 😊.
Yet islander can be shot down by a patriot while atacms blows up russian s400 air defence
@user-qk9he7se5w mach 7 Iskander missile is shot down by mach 3.5 patriot missile. So funny🤣
@user-qk9he7se5w "atacms blows up russian s400 air defence"-claimed by joker Volodymyr Zelenskyy🤣🤣
@@neojupyter322 lmao russia couldn't assassinate zelenskey stupid clown
I see a lot of iskander strike videos from the russian channels, i feel its extremely reliable
Us weapons aren't that good
Its only good against habibi
They are good enough to be better than anything Russia had made. By a superior margin.
The Russian shovel is the king of weapons in Ukrainian battlefields!
Iskander is too powerful and difficult to intercept
It's a music i have heard already....👂
so is Atacms apparently.
You should read up on that false statement
❤Come on Guyz this is an insult .Even non military guyz know thez no answer to Iskander missiles. NO nation has absolutely none has an answer to Iskanders
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Iskanders are more powerful than attacms
but no accuracy 😂
With the mentioned comparison and destructions caused by, Iskander is more superior than the ATACMS.
As shown several of the latter were shot down and failed to do havoc on the target.
I bet for Iskander M
"Sub-munitions" means cluster weapons which are banned by most countries. Russia still uses Soviet era cluster warheads but ceased developing them and does not manufacture any. This is because although it is not an official signatory of the UN Convention on Cluster Munitions (2010), CIS affiliated states voted to end production and use. Russia was in no position to disagree and had learned horrible lessons in the Chechen War.
The USA is the only known manufacturer of cluster munitions and deploys 3 especially cruel types, some with timers.
The USA, Poland, Romania, Latvia and Estonia are not signatories to the 2010 UN law.
The 1992 raid on a Russian Navy airfield in disputed Crimea used timed cluster weapons which could not have been launched by Ukraine.
Russia cluster munitions have a much higher rate of failure to explode than the United States. Russia has used them against Ukraine long before Ukraine received the United States older cluster munitions . Claiming unlimited supply .Putin bragged about Russia's massive stock pile of them. Besides the new and improved cluster munitions that are a much lower failure rate then Russia. The US has powerful cluster bombs that do not explode. It’s steel spheres that devastate enemy soldiers. But does not leave un exploded ordinance on the ground. Being much safer than Russian cluster munitions. Unexploded ordnance kills people long after wars end. And it’s all over Ukraine. If you think Russia is ethical and worried about civilian casualtiesJust look at the Ukraine landscape. And all the leveled cities. The US does not send its latest upgraded weapons to Ukraine. Keep up the wishful thinking!
Iklander must be a priority to stop
Iskandar is combat proven missile
😂😂😂failed missile😂
Cant be compare with Atacms😂
also ATACMS was distroyed s-400 to scrap metal
Iskander is much better nd more effective
lol atacms are less than half the size of a istakender why would you compare them totally different weapons
Because they can’t persuade the uninformed with facts.
Id say the ATACMS just because it can be reloaded much faster getting more shots in, and its smaller so it can hide better
😂 copium .....ATACMs has been destroyed while on the move by iskander but iskander has not been shot down, talklsa its luncher being hit
"Its smaller so it can hide better" it doesnt work like that bro. Size doesnt matter. 😂
@@najiv8797 do you even get what the point is? guessing no you dont. smh
9m54- series 300mm glonass guided mlrs, 250kg multipurpose warhead, he frag, cluster dpicm and Ap ,120km listed, 200km is good to go too,
ATACMS is superior in speed and accuracy but after serial failed shots while Islander works only with two shots
Iskandr is a lot cheaper to produce with the same capability.
People treating this war as if supporting their favorite sport team
Every one knows which is superior
The Iskander an equal to nuclear weapons
iskander making havoc while there are defenses like patriote and arrow and so forth
This video was made 4 months ago. We now know that the ATCMS "game changer" was just a word the NATO comments trolls liked to repeat because they thought it sounded cool. People with the mentality of children...where are they now? Oh, and for people reading this in 10 years, the next "game changer", the F16 jets, have also been pulled by NATO before they could see action. This was due to either a Ukrainian ace pilot not being able to handle it, or because it fell apart while he was doing a maneuver he was accustomed to doing in a mig or su fighter jet. The west covered it up, so we may never really know 🙄
Iskander is far more advanced and more deadlier than ATACMS. Russians have shot down many ATACMS while Ukraine & NATO haven't shot down any Iskander missile.
The amount of bs that pooty troll farm can spew, it's mind numbing.. 😂
At least 50% of pooty's iskanders have been intercepted if not more.. If pooty's iskander was so potent, kiev must have fallen by now cos there can't be any patriots shielding kiev's skies 😂
@@mattyboy456really? 🙄😂😂😂😂
@@tomvlodek6377 so you are saying that kiev has fallen?
Pooty's iskander has neutralized all the patriot systems shielding kiev's skies?? Dang!! How did the world media miss such an important update??
Poor kid here thinking russian claims are reality we've seen it.
@@bekeneel right, unlike you that thinks the Russians ran out of missiles in April 2022, ran out of ammunition and are using shovels, and thinks the ukrops are winning and EVER had a chance 😂🙄🤭
numbers will overwhelm technology :)
We can see the level of destruction in Ukraine even with weaker Russian missiles, no question between these two.
We will be able to compare the level of destruction, since now the Attacks and the Stromshadow will be able to be used in Russia.
The Russian have much more missiles. That does not mean that per se they are superior...
@@delldell191 yes, let's see.
@@DanielDeBenoit when NATO is losing “Numbers don’t matter”. Funny people
@@DanielDeBenoit much more missiles? Ukraine has exhausted almost all European stockpiles , American too, how can Russia have more missiles than 50 countries combined?
Iskander is the Secendar of battlefield❤❤❤❤
And scores of people die. Shame upon the high-ranking criminals of the collective West.
The proxy war in Ukraine is the first time NATO has tried to pick on someone their own size and NATO is getting humiliated.
Fun fact: Atacms is half the speed of iScandal.
According to Putin it’s also nuclear weapon capable!
You have compared the inncomparable
Russia has the best missile technology in the world, period!!!!
Off course Putin is chess player.
biden: do we have hypersonic missiles?
Military expert: No sir, we are not that advanced sir.
biden: But we have more money.
Military expert: I understand sir, but the Russians have more brains.
What are you comparing
Details would vary but roughly one can say that the Iskander is 2X speed, 3X warhead weight, 2X range compared to the ATACMs
The 300 km range ATACMs barely carries a warhead of 174 Kgs
Creating sensational sounding videos are you
Iskander, especially the domestic variant, is in a league of its own. That isnt to say atacms arent good, but yk
Iskander.
Ones about as accurate as a German V2,the other can hit a target within 5 metres cep.
I think atacms are a little better than a V2, not a good comparison
@@tomvlodek6377 you've got the comparison the wrong way round.
@@SnakePliskin762 uhhh, no, you’re the one who’s shameless and continues embarrassing himself after given the opportunity to slither back into the hole he crawled out of…
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ATACMs has higher mobility and much faster load times
Russia 🇷🇺 was able to shoot down Atacms Ukraine 🇺🇦 haven’t been shoot down any Izkander milssillez yet .
Don't worry it will happen...😂
All Atacms hit their target kid.
It's a stupid comparison and a pointless debate.
The two missiles and their associated technologies
are completely different and intended for different purposes.
Regardless, in Ukraine, Iskander is being used - but not exclusively - to destroy ATACMS, sometimes before they even get a single shot off.
There is nothing particularly magic about ATACMS.
They are just another missile in a multiple battery mounted on a 6 x 6 truck.
They are not especially or singularly more mobile than anything in the Russian collection.
In Russian off-road machines are infinitely superior in its often snow-bound or swampy or boggy terrain.
Russia remains the master of tracked or multi-axle off-road vehicles.
Russia created a purpose built Iskander missile with it's own military industrial complex. NATO purchased a profit driven ATACMS missile from it's own military industrial complex, sold from the lowest bidder. Purpose built probably wins, but that remain to be seen.
What type of news it is?
Iskander is a current model. ATACMS is from the 1980s 😂
Shovel vs ATACMS, who wins?
Overall, iskander has a bit longer range and speed. They both can carry cluster warhead and has a similar payload depending on the variant. Atacms destroyed an s400 but iskander destroyed a himars. Overall basically the two missiles are built on the same concept- short range ballistic missile. Bottom line the iskander has better benefits. but the atacms was not built to be a very advanced missile, the US in 1980 just wanted a basic short range tactical ballistic missile, nothing advanced.
Because Iskander has great range the Vehicle carrying this can be saved and can be used for another time. Missile wise both are accurate, devastation wise Iskander is higher. I have seen videos of HIMAR vehicle / carrier itself getting destroyed but no Iskander carrier ever got destroyed that speaks volume about Iskander.
had to swith the sound off....
Iskander ❤
Winner is the North Korean Missile 😉😉
Isnt Iskander hypersonic?
Iskandar is hypersonic.
@@mayhem4899 that's what I thought. Iskander wins then. Hands down
No
@@Tom-yy2cm no what?
Like asking someone if a .22 hurts more than 9. Y’all love violence
Advanced manufactured items = Jobs
What a useless and unnecessary comparison 😮!!! There’s no equivalent to Iskander, in the whole of nato and is like, comparing a bull to an elephant! WHAT A BELITTLE JOKE
😂😂 Sure, they said same about the S400 until we seen it on the battlefield. Ukraine destroyred like 15 batteries already. S400 can't even stop the missiles obliterating them 😂😂 lots of rus scrap metal.
@@bekeneel What are you high on, I hope it’s not that stupid stuff the cia are fending cocainsky with? There’s no s400 in the battle field in Ukraine hence, the Bear has more other capable defensive weapons that could deal with those nato inconsequential weapons! S400 was not made for such gorilla drones strike that the Ukraines are now employing out of desperation!
To burst your bubble S500 is now slated to join the fray and more headache for nato.
The main shackle on ATACMS is the US insistence on Ukraine only using them within its internationally agreed borders, which includes Ukraine and other territory illegally seized by the invasions. If Ukraine was allowed to hit sources within Russia, maybe Russia would not be crowing.
Да,она бы сравняла Украину с землей
Ohhhh, they’ll be crowing all the way to the Moldovan border 😂
To be fair Ukraine isn't the originator of these arms so it must abide by the dictates of it's arms suppliers. Russia produces it's own arms so it can use them as it sees fit.
There is no fairness in war and these two brothers need to patch up their differences. That may ruffle some feathers, but it's the only way for these two civilizations to move forward some day once all the mutual anger is flushed out.
Lol
Difficult to compare since Ukraine and Russia target different sorts of objects. In theory, we could find out which system works better the next time Russia targets Kharkiv by sending the exact numbers of ATACMS and drones to Belgorod. In practice, this won't work since Ukraine is not Russia.
Russbots are really out in force 😅
You just realized that more than half of populations is on Russia side. 😂 wakey wakey time for you!
How difficult denial is when your expectations meet the reality.
Iskander will win hands down.
But it’s not
Cue all the strategic analysts and missile system procurement experts
Crux 2 years ago : Ukraine may fall soon.
Crux 2 years later : Which missile is better?
Lol
ukraine can filled maximum 1.5 million more men.According to ex polish cheief of staff rajmund chejk already 10 lakh ukrainians died .Ukraine can survive this for maximum 2 more years
It won't fall so quick when it is supported by 30+ countries.
@@mayhem4899 West cant send its troops to replace fallen ukrainian troops
@@mayhem4899 West cant send its troops to replace fallen ukrainian troops
@@mayhem4899 West cant send its troops to replace fallen ukrainian troops
Isosndar is many many best
Prsm is better than both of them
Quoting “Former soldier said”? Really? Your quote is bull and sounds made up
Iskander looks more vicious
Nato has made Ukraine a testing ground for all its weapon except for jets
Because there is not enough air defense in Ukraine. Its make US had no guts to send their best Jet Fighters.. it will end up as metal scraps. And automatically will make a vertical drop for tge price market.
Russia got better tanks
Us got better mlrs
Russia got better helicopters
Us got better jets
Russtgot better submarines
Us got better warships
Compare the price tag. I'm sure the US one will win...