Very well explained Paul . Amazes me how many people work with just a jack. A couple of years back a guy not too far from were i live was working on a landrover and lost his life when it fell on him. Make sure the ground is firm and use the correct gear. 1 life 1 error and its game over if it goes bad.
Excellent advice and glad your video existed before i did any harm to the sills. Ive just lifted the back on the beam axle, supporting with axle stands, to change the rear shocks. Il leave that in the air now and will now follow your advice for the front as I need it off the ground to replace the exhaust.
I’m checking the brakes on my first copart bought Abarth (hobby project) today so this post was perfect timing as up to now I’ve not been 100% sure as to the best place to put the jack/axel stands. Thank you!
Worth to mention that when jacking Abarth, you might be putting some pressure on side skirts with part of jack that goes up when pumping. I always use block of wood between car structure and jack as it gives more space to side skirt. Plus wood wont damage paint underneath the car.
Hi Paul, good advise, one thing you forgot to mention is that if you should need to use the actual car Jack, the area on each side of the car to place the Jack is marked on the sill by way of a triangle indented into the sill itself. As you pointed out you must locate the Jack further under the car, not on the outer edge or the sill will simply buckled under the weight. These factory triangles for location are not visible on non Sport models.
My US spec Abarth has plastic cover over the “box” in the back. You kinda have to remove the side skirt to remove the plastic cover… but I just aim at the box and jack with the plastic cover in place.
Paul well done mate I remember around twenty five years ago their was a indian guy he jacked his nissan 140 up got underneath to some work on it and yes the jack slipped and the poor guy got crushed to death it was so sad he had a very young family the kids lost their dad so your advice could help to stop this happend again Phil In Stoke
If you have a bog standard small 2 ton trolley jack as I have so for extra lift height/ reach I use a thick block of wood ontop of the trolley jack then the car is easily high enough for the axle stands to go under As these cars are light at the back I lift the rear up on the Beam/axle in the centre making sure it's lined up before lifting this metal is very strong and you can get it nice and high for the stands Always leave it in gear and Always chock the wheels I use old bricks Also you can buy rubber seal protector block for the trolley jack that slot into the seals and grip from ebay for a few quid if you don't have the luxury of a trolley jack but just a boot jack ! 👍
Yes good advice. I've seen a lot of people, including professionals, under cars perched up in air on trolley jacks with no axle stands. Not worth risking your life 👍
You shouldn't use the O.E jack anywhere but on the O.E jacking points, it's designed to fit over the pinch weld which locates it. The places you showed as jacking points are where they're suspended during their trip down the production line which is why the circular holes are there for location.
Great video, ive got an Abarth 595 that i want to do this on. Is there chance of damage to the side skirts when using trolley jack? Or should i get low profile trolley jack?
@@AaronYeoman mine is a low profile and I’ve never had a problem. It would help to get some of those things you drive onto just to give you a little bit of extra height. You might struggle with one that’s not low profile.
I've been searching the correct location as of today for the jack stands in the front. According to fiat500usa the stand is supposed to be where you have your jack and your jack is supposed to be under the diamond spot under the weld, hence the slot in the scissors jack. In back the jack stand under the weld as is the jack. I typed in how to jack up a Fiat 500 and that's what i formation I found.
I do mention that the punch weld you mention is the official place but that’s why you find so many crushed sills. I saw an American video of hacking that came up on my feed yesterday and he used the pinch weld and he even commented about the state of the entire length of the weld. He had an Abarth too so even mor3 chance of damaging the side skirts.
Fairly good safe advice and well explained Paul I almost see every 500 we raise on our two posters at work with destroyed sills as well as other cars however I think the 500 and all it's derivatives have badly designed jack points especially sports and abarths The round plugs on the jack blocks fit in holes on Tesla's etc
@@daiblack1 while I am in partial agreement with you I run a tyre monkey centre and honestly can say that we're not all the same especially the one that I run where we have a trained staff who care Some of us have even started reading and writing
Your forgetting that say the person needs to change sump or control arms and you have gravel in between slabs and its bad weather etc. You take the easy option and stick stands on the sill. It doesn't destroy it..
Fantastic video - really professional. My daughter has bought a Ford KA. I've been told they have the same chassis as the Fiat 500 - I'm assuming it should be the same underneath and therefore has the same jacking points you show in the vid? I need to replace the backbox exhaust and the Ford user manual jacking section says (helpfully) - take it to a garage.
@@Love500 thanks for the reply. I’ve had a look and it’s is indeed identical. One more question, where did you get that beautiful trolly jack from? Was it pricey? Cheers, Nick
Only just come across your channel. Rightly or wrongly Fiat 500 have a terrible reputation for reliability so usually I would pass and jog on. However I viewed for the jacking content. What ever the car I usually lay the wheel I have taken off, under the car, or the spare. So if the car was to fall off your axle stand or jack, the wheel would save your life! The Fiat 500 also reminds me of cow tipping. It looks like I could lift up one side without a jack, by hand. By the state of the panels one side , on your car, it looks like someone has already tipped it! 😃 The other alternative is wheel ramps , which always seem to be made too narrow, even those advertised as wide fitting but should suit you car perfectly. I would worry about working on a Fiat 500 using a hydraulic lift too! As the arms would be at their extremities trying to hold it up!
Very well explained Paul . Amazes me how many people work with just a jack. A couple of years back a guy not too far from were i live was working on a landrover and lost his life when it fell on him. Make sure the ground is firm and use the correct gear. 1 life 1 error and its game over if it goes bad.
another great vid, just got an Abarth 595 so I'm finding your posts invaluable. +1 subscriber
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Excellent advice and glad your video existed before i did any harm to the sills. Ive just lifted the back on the beam axle, supporting with axle stands, to change the rear shocks. Il leave that in the air now and will now follow your advice for the front as I need it off the ground to replace the exhaust.
Smashing video, I've got a fiat panda cross but the jacking points are exactly the same. Straight to the point and very informative. Thanks so much!
I’m checking the brakes on my first copart bought Abarth (hobby project) today so this post was perfect timing as up to now I’ve not been 100% sure as to the best place to put the jack/axel stands. Thank you!
Worth to mention that when jacking Abarth, you might be putting some pressure on side skirts with part of jack that goes up when pumping. I always use block of wood between car structure and jack as it gives more space to side skirt. Plus wood wont damage paint underneath the car.
I think i did mention it as I was doing it in a sport which although isn’t as low will destroy your skirts all the same.
Cheers mate 👍🏻🍻
Hi Paul, good advise, one thing you forgot to mention is that if you should need to use the actual car Jack, the area on each side of the car to place the Jack is marked on the sill by way of a triangle indented into the sill itself. As you pointed out you must locate the Jack further under the car, not on the outer edge or the sill will simply buckled under the weight. These factory triangles for location are not visible on non Sport models.
I did actually forget to include the standard jack. I’ll probably do a separate video for that.
Hi Paul that is good advice on the jack point on a car is all the best to you and your family 😎👍🇬🇧🐥🐤🐣
My US spec Abarth has plastic cover over the “box” in the back. You kinda have to remove the side skirt to remove the plastic cover… but I just aim at the box and jack with the plastic cover in place.
Fantastic good video and advice..Many thanks.
Is it a optical illusion but the torsion bar ? running along the ream beam looked tobe bent in the middle. Just above where the jack was ?
It’s meant to be like that.
Paul well done mate I remember around twenty five years ago their was a indian guy he jacked his nissan 140 up got underneath to some work on it and yes the jack slipped and the poor guy got crushed to death it was so sad he had a very young family the kids lost their dad so your advice could help to stop this happend again
Phil In Stoke
If you have a bog standard small 2 ton trolley jack as I have so for extra lift height/ reach I use a thick block of wood ontop of the trolley jack then the car is easily high enough for the axle stands to go under
As these cars are light at the back I lift the rear up on the Beam/axle in the centre making sure it's lined up before lifting this metal is very strong and you can get it nice and high for the stands
Always leave it in gear and Always chock the wheels I use old bricks
Also you can buy rubber seal protector block for the trolley jack that slot into the seals and grip from ebay for a few quid if you don't have the luxury of a trolley jack but just a boot jack ! 👍
Very useful, thanks 👍🏻
Yes good advice. I've seen a lot of people, including professionals, under cars perched up in air on trolley jacks with no axle stands. Not worth risking your life 👍
You shouldn't use the O.E jack anywhere but on the O.E jacking points, it's designed to fit over the pinch weld which locates it.
The places you showed as jacking points are where they're suspended during their trip down the production line which is why the circular holes are there for location.
Great video, ive got an Abarth 595 that i want to do this on. Is there chance of damage to the side skirts when using trolley jack? Or should i get low profile trolley jack?
@@AaronYeoman mine is a low profile and I’ve never had a problem. It would help to get some of those things you drive onto just to give you a little bit of extra height. You might struggle with one that’s not low profile.
I've been searching the correct location as of today for the jack stands in the front. According to fiat500usa the stand is supposed to be where you have your jack and your jack is supposed to be under the diamond spot under the weld, hence the slot in the scissors jack. In back the jack stand under the weld as is the jack. I typed in how to jack up a Fiat 500 and that's what i formation I found.
I do mention that the punch weld you mention is the official place but that’s why you find so many crushed sills. I saw an American video of hacking that came up on my feed yesterday and he used the pinch weld and he even commented about the state of the entire length of the weld. He had an Abarth too so even mor3 chance of damaging the side skirts.
Fairly good safe advice and well explained Paul
I almost see every 500 we raise on our two posters at work with destroyed sills as well as other cars however I think the 500 and all it's derivatives have badly designed jack points especially sports and abarths
The round plugs on the jack blocks fit in holes on Tesla's etc
I find that the destroyed pinch welds on most cars is the work of the "Tyre Monkeys".
@@daiblack1 while I am in partial agreement with you I run a tyre monkey centre and honestly can say that we're not all the same especially the one that I run where we have a trained staff who care
Some of us have even started reading and writing
Your forgetting that say the person needs to change sump or control arms and you have gravel in between slabs and its bad weather etc. You take the easy option and stick stands on the sill. It doesn't destroy it..
Fantastic video - really professional. My daughter has bought a Ford KA. I've been told they have the same chassis as the Fiat 500 - I'm assuming it should be the same underneath and therefore has the same jacking points you show in the vid? I need to replace the backbox exhaust and the Ford user manual jacking section says (helpfully) - take it to a garage.
Yes they should be the same.
@@Love500 thanks for the reply. I’ve had a look and it’s is indeed identical. One more question, where did you get that beautiful trolly jack from? Was it pricey? Cheers, Nick
@@nickmandis6513 I think it was eBay. About £130 I think.
@@Love500 ok thanks
@@Love500 btw - I’ve subscribed to your channel 👍
Is it me or is your rear beam bent?
But thanks for the tips on side jacking points😎💪🏼
It’s you. It’s got a curve. It’s meant to be like that.
The rear beam is bending paul
🤣🤣
Better jacking on bolt you put axle stand on. Lots on axle stands don't sit well on a bolt
I used to do that but it’s a better place to put the stand and you can’t put the stand there if you’re jacking on it.
Instead of putting a wheel under, slide your wallet under, it’s thicker 😂😂👍👍
I wish
Only just come across your channel. Rightly or wrongly Fiat 500 have a terrible reputation for reliability so usually I would pass and jog on. However I viewed for the jacking content. What ever the car I usually lay the wheel I have taken off, under the car, or the spare. So if the car was to fall off your axle stand or jack, the wheel would save your life!
The Fiat 500 also reminds me of cow tipping. It looks like I could lift up one side without a jack, by hand. By the state of the panels one side , on your car, it looks like someone has already tipped it! 😃
The other alternative is wheel ramps , which always seem to be made too narrow, even those advertised as wide fitting but should suit you car perfectly.
I would worry about working on a Fiat 500 using a hydraulic lift too! As the arms would be at their extremities trying to hold it up!