Starcraft 2 Clash of the Titans - Scarlett (Zerg) vs Maru (Terran)
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- Over 100 nuclear missiles fly in one of the most intense (and potentially controversial) games in Starcraft 2 History.
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What a mess.
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Thought this was a series ... expected like 5 games .... still was not disappointed
it's the first game of a best of 5
Battle pf attrition
@@happy06810 I know this is a bit late, but imaging playing at least 2 more games after this
A game so short maru didn't even get a chance to mine out his main.
ahhahahhaha
Ghost: How many nukes commander?
Maru: Yes
wtf LOL!!!
I love nukki nuss
Maru: Make it rain.
ALL OF EM
"You don't seem to realize my situation here. I will not be stopped. I will rule this sector or see it burnt to ashes around me!" - Maru
Fire the damn warhead!
Awesome!
Hahahaha, Marungsk. :D
@@yp8495 But I am le tired.
Spoken like a true Mengsk. Couldn't have said better myself.
"We don't know how a world war 3 would turn out but we know that the next one will be fought with sticks and stones" This game went through world war 1,2,3 and 4.
Here we are in 2022
12:45 “Brenda and her Knitting Crew” definitely needs to become a zerg clan on SC2
Definetly gonna make that clan now.
i love how maru was fighting scarlet for those minerals when he still had minerals in his main.
This reminds me of that day, when I was working at Subway, my mate had called in sick so I was there, all on my own. Everything was fine, until a whole soccer team came and ordered 24 foot longs, in the middle of the frenzy my girlfriend called to tell me she was pregnant. I went to the back to cry a little, and then when I was wiping my tears I remembered I had chilli in my hands. I called the manager and told him I was done, when I got home, I was feeling a little better, but then my girlfriend called again, to tell me she was sorry, the kid wasn't mine. I was so happy I cried again.
best story, 10/10 would order 20 subs again
@@Daytruin epic story!
Maru is so used to winning, he literally forgot how to be a scrappy sewer terran and float buildings. lmao
scifitoilet for the best imo
well, it is dishonourable to draw by losing the whole map except a few buildings
DemiDualist Floating buildings has never been against the rules, both players simply forgot that it was a possibility.
@DemiDualist Gentleman has to win honorably especially against a lady
@DemiDualist He intentionally "forgot"
Every single aspect of Scarlett's play in this specific game can be summed up to two words : "Not yet."
she has definitely a great creep spread :D
David Kudela he*
@@holygrimreaper6103 she
Trapezoider Please take biology class. He*
HolyGrimReaper Quit being an ass. I see you commenting repeatedly about the same thing. Do you live such a pitiful life that you must use your time to invalidate others?
Mikings, Mosts, Miberators.
I counted 127 +/- 3 nukes launched
I used a tool that said 124 nukes so you were right.
@@cestcaquejeveux538 glad to know i wasted my time lol
@@sparkledfish9483 haha sorry
"It takes 3 hellion shots to 1 shot a zergling."
"Basic math"!
Every 3 times, It kills them everytime!
Haha yeah, he should have said "It takes 3 hellions to 1 shot a zergling"
I love his commentary ^^
lolol
Blizzard needs to make some kind of skin for Maru, like post-nuclear styled Terran, and some mutated zerg for Scarlett. They deserve it after this match.
Scarlett creep spread?
Pfft
Maru turret spreads
nuke spread
“The sound of nukes launching..”
*waits... 2 launch*
*looks away for 0.5 seconds, 7 launch*
I guess nukes are camera shy
Spoilers :
There is a 48 minutes drone rush
"I can't count that high, I went to an American public school" :D :D :D
Funny but sadly true.
@@brenxbux Saying that it is true is sadder.
@@Hermis14 true
Need new counters.
NPM (nukes per minute)
TPM (turrets per minute)
CTPM (creep tumors per minute)
Wolf Edmunds just cpm (creepers per minute)
@@fredstercooney5497 CREEPER, AW MAN
So this devolved into wood league wonders
Me: Oh, this must be a best of 5
(Later)
Me: Oh.
Dude that comment is so bad lol.
Iam Cool tell me about it
I was making banana bread when I started watching, I was eating banana bread when I finished watching.
"I cant count that high, I went to an American public school" -winter
Spoilers:
So crazy how this is just 1 game, I thought that long of a video, must be a best of 3 or 5, maybe even 7.
Best of 5 that maru won 3-2
Same
This match made me think of one thing: Exterminatus.
More like siege of vraks, where artillery was used to hit the defense line and then move closing barrage to prevent enemy reinforcing line... except when bunch of chaos marines cause havoc and wreck majority of the lines there was. Maru just gave up before imperial reinforcements manage to arrive :D
Rogue: These foreigners are getting good, what do we do?
Innovation: Just Nuke them!
Maru: Affirmative!
16:00
Maru kills his own widowmine, recognizing that it may be a defective product.
Maru, of course, could've still used it but you can't risk a faulty mine locking on your own marines.
And they don't stop coming, and they don't stop coming...
The real question is which one?
100 minerals 100 gas for a nuke that can kill 20 infestors. Whats the math on that.
34:26 "Scarlett - ruuun! Run in the air! Wag your little weird corruptor tail!" >_
was that a sneaky reference to her penis?
@@aaabatteries9948 you're smart hahahaha *HIS* penis, just like you and me bro
All the Bronze League Heroes are rejoicing, for their leader Maru has arrived!
Scarlett : Spread the creep.
Maru : Hold my turrents.
There is no “N” in turret!!!!!!! !!!!!!
@@LCInfantry There is, but it acts like the "h" in "What"
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Wtf, lol you are saying “what” wrong because you do use the “h”.
In turret.... there is no “n”. If you say turret as turrent, then you are saying the word wrong because you are a dumbass. Simply put.
I’m speaking American English. Maybe its different for you because of your accent. Similar to armor and armour idk. Look up “turrent” in Urban Dictionary and it too will tell you that you are a dumbass.
You do not say turret as turrent. If you do... then you are saying the word wrong.... you and anyone else that you also hear the word spoken as turrent.
You spelled armor wrong it’s armour 🤗
@@LCInfantry Aight, ya need to chill, was kidding on that one. Also on most cases h is silent after a w: white, what, when, where, why, wheel -> h is silent, so for that case you could also spell well as whell and phonetically it would still be the same. There is an exception for who, whom and perhaps there are some other cases in which the w is the silent letter but quite frankly haven't met those cases yet.
If you're among those who pronounce what as hwhat, can't call you a dumb ass for that, it's something that some dialects, and in some accents, is still being kept ever since old/mid English regardless we are talking about US or UK. Not incorrect, just not very used anymore, not even in England.
What it used to be written like was "hƿaet" where "hƿ" = "hw"; this case is still met today among the Scandinavian languages ("hvad" is "what" in Danish) and even some upper parts of England.
Regardless, that is why I said there is an "n" in turret but it is silent.
Haffa godne daeg! :)
Innovation: Holds the record for most nukes in a game.
Maru: Hold my marines.
hold my ghosts
Actually hearing a caster make weird noises actually made this game great.
P.S. I love Scarlett!
you do know that scarlett is a guy right?
@@Lewdacris916 Well, clearly it is impossible to "know" something that is false.
If you mean "Do you say that you know that Scarlett is a guy, right?" (i fixed your idiotic grammar errors for you). In that case my answer is: No, i am not a dumb fucking moron.
@@Lewdacris916 another words: stfu and go away noob! xD We love Scarlett.
@@volodyanarchist lol u got so triggered by my comment, your entire paragraph made zero sense. You can live in denial if you want to but Scarlett was born male, "she" has a penis.
Audio Sugar neurology? No its just a penis or vagina
pretty simple the chemicals in your brain have nothing to do with being male or female
as a guy i can take estrogen pills and I’m still a guy, just a guy who takes estrogen
can’t really change that,
no matter how hard you want to believe, that is all you are doing is believing you can’t change reality or scientific facts
and we shouldn’t try to change science because someones feelings were hurt because they can’t accept reality
that’s basically accepting that flat earthers are right
the goal is to advance in science not descend to evolve not de-evolve
Well, this game do tell that Maru is a honorable player after all.
Of course Maru doesn't know the exact positions of all the zerg structures, but at the end of the game I would have loved to see him just try to cheese and kill all the zerg structures with a hit squad of vikings and win without even killing Scarlett's army.
That would probably be a good strategy there, but wouldn't Scarlett see them coming through the creep?
She can take sporecrawlers with her army
Schierlingsbecher he*
@@holygrimreaper6103 scarlett is a woman
Grishy Male*
I love all the "OMG why didn't Scarlett do [xyz] while she was getting mass nuked" commenters that don't realize this was the same strategy Innovation used to beat Serral at IEM Katowice.
But yeah, guys, I'm sure that Scarlett and Serral just couldn't figure out the obvious counters like you did.
The fuck up was throwing away the army instead of taking out the 4th and 5th CCs. If that was done, then it would be game over before too long.
@@TheGuruStud Oh hey, the commenter strikes again!
Part of this was because they were both playing on chinese clients so yeah. Nuke announcements on Chinese. That was dirty trick from Maru.
Тимур Бирюков I’m positive scarlet knew what that sounded like after he heard it the first 10 time lmao
@@BoxCox not true, they fixed that after the first day. This match was played on the last day when the issue was solved
"Scarlett nukled more times than any island in the pacific in the 1950s"
u just won the internet.
Nope
That island was the bikini island if I'm not mistaken.
@@howiedick6857 you mean his ass , right?
"The turrets are flanking!" :D
"The Liberators, a Venn Diagram of freedom!"
Never change, Winter.
AH WILL ROOL THIS SECTUH OR SEE IT BURNT TO ASHES ROUND ME
This is the best Starcraft match ive ever seen!, and ive seen many in my time
The thing is even scarlett forgot that maru can float his building so I guess the game is just so exhausting that both of then had not even think about such thing as floating building to the edge of a corner to force a draw
The timing of 'hello my darkness my old friend' was almost legendary... if you hit that after the 5 nukes launched... just bury me
Honestly this was a mindgame by scarlet. By rejecting a draw she seems to bluff that she has some way to kill flying buildings. Seems like maru took the bait
There's zero chance that maru forgot that he could lift off. It's absurd. He didn't want to embarrass himself.
I agree. Floating buildings for a draw is poor play for a professional player. You got beaten. Deal with it
@@NonchalantBuhddist except he was not beaten. The ppint was she could not win, but she did. Yey i guess, gg well played and other garbage
Tay pang shiang he*
MrZiva82 he*
Winter: "Suddenly there's no ground army!"
Maru: [Laughs in missile turret]
Blizzard should definitely add a nuclear winter theme to a map after so many nukes land.
>1st game
>already see 104 zerglings in the production tab AT THE SAME TIME
Oh this is going to be one of those, isn't it-
The Bill Gates thing at 9:20 - when Microsoft were making the most of their cash it was something a $50k bill. Stupid amounts of cash.
GT 1:08:16 I think Maru will not remember that he has the ability to tie...just a guess.
1:11:00 Scarlett has remembered that she does not have to destroy buildings, just set them afire!
If WESG says go to score, Scarlett lost much more stuff...that might mean she must continue to fight (just to try to gain points)
This is the greatest game of Starcraft 2 (or Starcraft) that I have ever seen. The ending was disappointing for the same reason that Winter gave, but it is still the best game.
Robert Coutinho he*
Scarlett: can i win
Maru: Hold My nuke
Jesus christ Maru is a true Dominion commander
"Every unit that DOESN'T Start with M!"
right and the most important heal busses.
His vision is free of zerg, and also glowing brightly green for the next four thousand years.
I never realized who jimmy really was until.. 19:23
JIMMY! WHAT DO I PAY YOU FOR! GODDAMMIT!
Same here.lmao
Holy shit it’s Jim fucking Raynor
Sooo, all the time bronze league heroes were right? TPM and nuke the way
And float your buildings!
Actually, I think a big part of what lost Maru the game other than the brain dead mistake at the end, was sinking too much resources into those turrets. It was smart to use them in the early mid game in small numbers to protect from the mutalisk harass and to turtle up with some static defenses in the late game particularly at important choke points and on the front line bases so the ghosts and army have a buffer to fall back into, but he went so overboard with it.
Each of those turrets could have instead been two marines in the late game. Even just a converting a dozen of those turrets into 24 marines at the end could have given his army a big boost in firepower and a much needed shield for his ghosts to prevent the ling surround. That is really what lost him that final battle at the end where both sides were spent out. It was losing all the ghosts and their ability to snipe that doomed him.
But other than that. Yeah, the bronze league heroes had it right apparently. O_o
Probably the most rage-inducing outcome to any SC2 game I've ever seen.
Rage inducing? It was brilliant. I admire him for tapping out, a draw over a retarded meta wouldn't be a good feel.
Wow, this is .... new definition for epic in SC2
I highly disagree with just floating your buildings to the deadspace and forget them there forever, because looking at it, while it is a mechanic for terrans when it comes down to tech swinging from reactors and mass production to advanced unit production without having to have 6000 buildings to reach the output that balances out zerg's mass building and the mobility of the protoss with pylons and warp prisms it also acts as a "fail safe" way to just draw it out/outright win if certain conditions like points are met without any compensatory ability for zergs or protoss if they were to be in the same scenario. If that is the case, allow zerg buildings to burrow but at a higher larva cooldown or protoss buildings to dewarp/unwarp/dismantle/recycle and give a partial sum back and then you might say: well, if the enemy has no anti-air, then terran draws/wins because flying buildings; if the enemy has no detection then zerg draws/wins because the buildings are burrowed, if the enemy has no resources or ability to siege the buildings while there still are units capable of defending then protoss draws/wins because they can simply dismantle their building and build the necessary units to win or not.
At that point, Scarlett was deserving of the win, regardless of Maru forgetting or not that he can just float his buildings to the deadspace and then take a toilet break while leaving the game running out of time do it's own thing. Fly to rearrange on the map ? Sure. Fly to win in impossible scenarios ? Don't really think so. That would imply you just have to have 2 AA units tucked away in the corner of the map hoping that the time to use them never comes become god damned terran have guess what ? Flying fail safes.
It may be just so that Maru claimed he forgot that he can float his buildings (which seems incredible given the fact that he floated his entire main base the left side 2 minutes before GGing out) only because he wouldn't want to have to resort to that thing of "hahahahha screw you biology we got thrusters !!!!!11!!1!!".
Or just give building max time they can be in the air (fuel ?). I recently lost a win due to terran just floating in the corner far from my stalkers. Stupid
Imagine if, say, a protoss has lost every single unit/buildings other than a ring of cannons around a pylon, while the opponent has something like 5 marines or 10 zerglings left. Should that pylon run out of power? How bout a few creep tumors surrounded by spines/spore?
@@yp8495 The main thing here is that those cannons and spines are not going to float away with an almost magic whisper echoing in your head "You're screwed, fam.". If you were Scarlett would you feel like: "Ah yes, that design choice has to be encountered at some point, let me make some 5 minute corruptors that I will hide away in the corner of the map, just for the perfect moment to snipe some flying objectives."
Or like someone said in the comments below: "make them count as "dead" buildings". Or maybe even add a new state to buildings while floating: "Suspended activity." Cuz it's not like that can do anything except land/fly, if a buildings sits for more than, idk, 3 minutes ? in "Suspended activity." mode, it counts as a defeat. I mean, you're not going to look for a base for 3 minutes to land your CC. So that could get rid of this. But I do get your point.
@@yp8495PS: Don't quote me on this! I just remember hearing this somewhere a long time ago...
I don't think they intended it to go this far, but in such a scenario the game also looks at the time since a unit took damage from an enemy and if the (same) player is or has been mining within a certain time period. Don't know of this is still the case nor the time it is/was (or at least should be...)
Zerg and protoss army have more mobility in terms of nydus network and warping, which the terran lack. To compensate that inbalance the mobility in terran race has been given to their buildings.
There is one sick nuclear winter coming to that planet WTF.
Scarlett's unaware misdirection with killing of the planetaries was the winning move.
Now i regret watching this on SC2HL 😕
NEVER! I watched in all three so far, live, SC2HL, and this - all of which were still awesome to see.
this should be an additonal campaign mission. playing as zerg, starting with half the map creeped up, with terrans nuking it all. or the other way around. as terran, trying to clear the map from all the creep
we do have those sometimes in co-op
@@shiviste7611 yeah. The terrain enemy composition
Hello ghostness my old friend,
I've come to radiate with you again.
While the visions of nukes sweeping,
peeling back the zerg's creeping...
35:40 ok its over, i liked Scarlett but, main about to be gone, half map lost, all control lost. What a pity :(
*looks at video length* WHAT?!? BUT HOW?
exact I surprissed also
A nuclear wasteland, a Barren desert.
Nothing but one will remain.
I mean... Forgetting is a forgivable mistake. After maintaining that level of hyperfocus for so long both players were undoubtedly exhausted.
basically Maru didn't know that Scarlett didn't have any air-to-air attacks so didn't float buildings to the corner. Although one would think that after all those scans he would have noticed... but obviously slipped his mind...
Spoilers!!
The end of this match almost gave me a stroke. When Winter joked that the only way Maru could lose was to forget he could float his buildings I laughed. Then as the minutes slipped by that joke turned from a funny quip to a prophetic tragedy and my laughter to tears of frustration and pain as Maru conceded and the blood vessels in my brain began hemorrhaging.
I'm not the best at starcraft, but couldn't Maru destroy his own buildings to deny points?
His building razed stats will still be exactly the same
@@krisdang no stupid. He said t9 Deny scarlet points not to raise his own
gonna be honest the amount of nukes was starting to piss me off. like, i get that it was a sensible course of action in order to expand and push scarlett back, but still........ damn.
Scarlett wants the candy desperately and Maru taps out and gives it. Its better to give than to receive.
What IF Maru meanwhile were destroying his OWN base (buildings that can't fly) so Scarlet can't really earn points?
how the fudge do you even get to 956 apm? my fingers would fly off :D
So is this how Terran is supposed to win against other races in the late game? Good meme race...
Can’t wait to see blizz increase the cost of nukes and give Terran nothing to compensate for their bad late game capabilities.
Floating buildings off the map is still the same as forfeiting. Its the same as admitting you cant do anything left. If something wasnt killed or destroyed within 5 minute at end game, the one making the least progress end game should be consider defeated. If they cannot make any progress such as killing the enemy army, or progressively eliminating enemy structures they must be consider defeated.
I though Scarlett was going to lose but at the end had the clear advantage. This win belongs to Scarlett, she was undoing the enemy structures bit by bit. If the both did a "All in" Scarlett had the advantage. Maru hiding his army at his base doing nothing, is not what i consider draw-worthy. If you cant fight back you lost. If you cant defend your structures, you lost.
100% agree
say.. if this game did ended in a draw. who should have won based on points?
Maru.
Dear Starcraft 2 community,
I am unable to find the WinterSC announcer pack in the online store. is there a specific name that I should be looking for it under?
there isn't one, Lowko is one but not winter.. yet
@@meancanadian6811 Shhhhhhhh, we all know where the probe goes...... no, not that probe
Nobody expected the 48 minute drone rush LMAO
bro, hilarious commentary to an epic series!
It says specifically on the rules that the points have to be at least 20% or higher than the opponent for them to win via a point tie.
*Sees the 100+ nukes and the how he's rapid firing them* "It's time to stop! No more! You need to stop! Where the fuck are you parents?! Who are even your parents?!!? IT'S TIME TO STOP!!"
In all seriousness, it's getting to the point that the nuke NEEDS to be nerfed. This is pretty ridiculous, and kinda bullshit.
Wow. What a game. I don't know how you managed to cast the whole thing.
The thing is, it's considered really poor sportsmanship to fly buildings away to get a draw. If it gets to that point in the match the rules state you can't do it because if you have to float buildings to force a draw out, you've lost. You shouldn't let the game get to a point where you have to resort to that BM. You could argue it's a mechanic and blah blah but this is a tournament to decide who's better. Not who can dick around to force draws by being a sore loser. Maru tipped his hat said he lost cause that's the competitive nature they have. He knew if he had to do that tactic it was his game to lose. So kudos to him. I respect that rule cause then we'd see some bush league nonsense in pro tournament games and it's not what the sport is about.
100% agree
WinterGaming "Come for the analysis stay for the breakdown" make that your slogan.
112 nukes... (Launched minus canceled)
"please subscribe and press that button ........ and all that bullshit" hahaha
Good cast!
Maybe Jimmy will bring Winter that custom SC2 soundtrack mix for replays and get hired back. Hopefully.
To be fair, just looking at this game, the rule absolutely should only include landed buildings for the elimination, maybe giving terran a countdown where they can land before they lose. Like, look at his side of the map. Terrans have the most buildings out of like any race, and all you need is for one of them to survive to draw. I know the game isn't intended to get to that point so it's not a big deal 99% of the time, but it is still an aspect of the game where Terran is 100% superior to the other races with zero drawbacks, and it's a game-ending superiority at that. I still enjoy the "kill all buildings to win" rule as a matter of principle, at it adds an element of strategy to what would otherwise just be "kill ur opponents army", but not so long as floating buildings count.
Yeah, it's not like zerg can make all of their units from a single building. That would be imbalanced...
Yes, if your opponent is too stupid to reserve a Mutalisk in a chess scenario versus Terran, then Terran is 100% superior to the other races lmao. This logic.
"Ghostbuster" was loud, but well worth it 👌
Basic math: three shots equals one shot zergling- winter at hellions Vs zerglings 2019
Fuck this is like watching the entirety of a WW1 battle.
"A Venn diagram of freedom" amazing
Watching Maru play the Supreme Late Game is the most oddly satisfying thing.
Winter, it was 78 nukes in Serral's game. I'm subscribed to your fellow collegue commentator Alex007, from Ukraine, love his work a lot. And he has tremendous video about that game.
Wow, and I wasted time searching. He speaks klingon though - how should we understand that? :D
@@kontoname Well too bad :D He has incredible performance, i'm listening to him like football game.
yeah that guy have god given talent i also wanted to mentioned him!
Maru shoulda gone for the building win when he had the nuke factory that would have been hilarious
Winter: terran late game starts when no units with M are built anymore
Me an intellectual: doing a reaper rush
*ABSOLUTE LATE GAME*
Maybe he could lift his buildings but to win he had to exterminate Sasha's army first. The draw is right...
Serral is so good that his name has to appear every time someone good is mentioned. You always gotta add (but like serral is the only true god)
What a goddamn rollercoaster.
Yes, they do
I think Maru figured out the counter to 98 creep tumors,mass nuclear bombardment.