Starcraft 2: Most EPIC Protoss vs Terran 2020?! (Showtime vs Cure)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- German Protoss Showtime and Korean Terran Cure face off in the best protoss vs terran I've seen this year! Sparks and bodies fly all across multiple maps with constant action.
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I've tried watching StarCraft multiple times, but it never stuck until I came across Winter. Great commentary and excitement that makes me want to play the game
So would you say Winter has come?
Damn , pretty sad actually.
Don't worry, you won't. Winter is THE best tho
You should have seen HuskySC...
@@nightmareTomek FalconPaladin kind of reminds me of Husky doh.
The music, the action, the passion... Jesus, I was on the edge of my seat. What a great match. Thanks!
Said like a true man
30:27 oh my god that animation, sliced him right in half
So there are winter viewers that don't play SC2
@@Oyashio202 Actually i played it for like 3 months and got to diamond following his guides, but the game requires too many apm from there and is generally more fun to watch for me
Stevan Popovic it doesn’t need high APM. What matters is what you do with the APM.
@@eazy2195 Winter have guides to literally probe that APM means nothing when the actions are effective. Go look for them, and please don't let Winter read your comment.
@@jdperdomo Those guides got me to diamond, i know what are you talking about, when i say apm i also mean micro, dodging banelings, stormm, sniping templars, sieging liberators/tanks while steamimg and then splitting while also sometimes having to defend your mineral line at the same time. So it does get pretty micro intensive and you need apm in those moments.
Like i said it gets frustrating for me,id rather watch pros do it where the game looks like every unit has a mind of its own
This overlay which shows the mineral and gas incomes next to the mineral and gas levels for each player is extremely telling. It's very, very helpful. I wish every cast from every caster had it.
when a video is so fresh its still encoding higher res
Yes it is
Even when I have seen matches before, I still often find it interesting and entertaining to watch them again with Winter casting them.
The passion is contagious, and I really like the pro tips, whether they're called out as such or not.
disruptor are the most enjoying unit to watch, evry hit on bio is both frustrating and amazing
True
They were designed for exactly that. Be a wow-effect for the audience. For players it's not that fun.
its SO deserved. Stupid bio has always been op, and both colossi and storms are just hard countered with vikings and EMPs ... but oh no now maybe terran has to do something outside of MMM , what tragedy -.-
@@iunary
I know you're over here lamenting that Terran ain't Broodwar again, but I don't think you realize this only reinforces MMM right? Ever tried to micro a mech unit out of the oversized orange-flavored Kool-aid packet lookin' ass that is the disruptor? Not a thing, you can't dodge the insane damage this thing outputs unless you have MMM, better luck on your balancing whining next time hoss.
P.S.
Just get some stalkers and a warp prism, this simple combo makes any important unit nigh indestructible.
"We get it... you vape" Such a hilarious line to describe EMP
37:03
omg that 37 min game.... wow... the difference in mineral/gas lost was 400/400 and it literally came down to 1 mis micro...... oooooooooof what a game
The Disruptors Connected, They Swiped Right!!! Another Disruptor Shot Misses!! Shaq is at the Free Throw Line!! -Great Commentary
what i learned
never make carriers unless you've been working on air upgrades in the background. only make them when you've already got 3-3 air
and even then... seems like a bad idea..
Its more never make carriers when you only have a single high templar. Storms ruin Vikings and Liberators, but Showtime had barely any high templar with the carriers and so a single EMP was enough for Cure to just win without a single storm going off
I think its also very important if you can get your interceptors in time. If you can attack a bit earlier, like say a single terran unit just before the rest arrive and during those first critical seconds have already interceptors in the air nearer the terran army, i think the carrers can do devastating dmg. They are after all, i think the highest overall (not specialized) dps units in the game. But if they get caught the while traveling and they have to stop, get the interceptors in the air... not so hot.
@Manannan anam Interesting didnt know that. tough i would only comparfe Carrers with units that have also a general dps against everything so bcs yes, Libs no since their dps is only against ground (against air its much lower)
@Manannan anamJust checked FYI, even more specialized but you got also immortals against armored with ~48 dps..
One of the best series of games I've ever seen, Thanks Winter. Thanks Wardi
Love how after that big enagement where the toss army got butchered, the sad music starts at 58:30
Mengsk' theme. is the track
1:09:00 "Shaq at the free throw line!"
LMAO
God I wish i could like this video more than once. The matchup, my favorite player, that terrible joke at 46:34, it is just perfect.
The Terran in me hopes cure will win
But the Protoss in me hopes ShoWTimE won’t listen.
40:50
Apparently I’m married to Wardiii
absolutely the best comment
Serral: "When I want to lose I build Ultralisks."
Any Protoss: "When I want to loose I build Carriers." - Ironic considering it is supposed to be the most powerful non unique unit lore wise.
Matej Sojka countered by tempests unless micro’d well
Also, maybe cure is just a better player.
Because in the lore Carriers are heavily armoured and shielded enough to basically rule any naval engagement with their mere presence. In the lore Carriers are the Starcraft equivilent of modern Aircraft carriers. And there is a very good reason why the U.S. is the current top-dog in naval power worldwide: its because they have more aircraft carriers than every other nation in the world, and the total combined deck space (i.e. the best metric by which to measure a carrier's military power) is more than TWICE that of the REST OF WORLD'S NAVIES COMBINED.
So ofc in the lore Carriers would be OP, but if they made them as OP in multiplayer as they are in the lore, people would bitch.
Joel Gawne fraid so
It was Idra who said that not Serral
34:08 Showtime stahp! Every single time he does this with the collosus. Aim the SCVs for one second please
Also did this in game 3 with the zealots on the third base
It's much harder then it looks
good ol' rapperino: "a widowmine being in the mineralline" . And the Stalker walked by, at the scene of the crime.
I do not agree with your analysis. I think Showtime's army composition is more a necessity than a choice, dictated by the current power of the ghost emp weapon. And even though Showtime adapted, Cure still uses the emp with great effect, as we see in these games.
Yes
How to win with Protoss:
1. You need to be a way better player than your Terran/Zerg opponent to begin with.
2. Always keep the pressure up.
3. Don't make a single mistake or mis-click even if the game is 45 Min long or you lose.
4. Use some Micro even if your opponent left the computer to get some coffee and the enemy units are "idle".
5. You need some luck during a game no matter what.
6. If there is a "possibility" to win the game, never ever tech switch or you lose. Just try to win.
7. Always play with a smile on your face!
8. Overcome the temptation to switch to the two other factions!
10. Trink Water to keep you hydrated. :)
Even as a Protoss i feel its a big exageration:). But still that last game ... It felt like Showtime defended the widow mine drops as good as anyone could, had better initial skirmish, and still ended in very bad a position ... I mean what anyone could have done better?
Or just immortal/archon/storm ;)
There it is! After two long hours, crisp pixels at last. It's ShoWTimE!
"I would watch wardiii... but I don't!" there you go winter. you literally asked for it
Cure
nickname: (the) boys don't cry
An impressive amount of work went into these interlude panels, and the "advertisements." Complimented the jokes well.
WinterStarcraft is unique because he has a great sense of humor and discernment as a commentator. I watched Day(9), Tasteless/Artosis, Incontrol, etc etc but it never stuck with me. There are rare exceptions like some professional commentators out there that can keep a narrative pace.
Well done winter. I'm subscribed.
I used to be a clansman, but I have stopped playing games now so I enjoy watching it from time to time.
When the casting is an hour long, you know it’s gonna be a good one
You're always here... You're like the dad I never had 🤧
360p only?; monstrous
it happens when u upload. wait a bit
WinterSC a pros pro; wished terran had medivac speed and then added in the Fusion Core. Always great casting from Winter! What an exciting game. Carriers wiped out 18:23
I'd say that game 4 mine defence very well showcases why Showtime is called Die Mauer, he's a very good defensive player.
those disruptor hits bowling balls
that moment when Wardi's vod and this one of the same game are side by side in my inbox
"Just ask your mother" Bahaha!
A weird fight at 26:50 .Looked light Showtime had more and there was no sieged tanks, he stil got wasted... Maybe not attacking those vikings with the stalkers ? The vikings seems just untouched comfortably shooting at collosus...
Colossi always take a lot of abuse because they can get hit from both air and ground attacks. Personally would like to see them with 50 to 100 more shields to give the a better recovery after each battle. They generally lack gaining value before death.
"When Wardiii gets angry, he gets mildy passive aggressive and slightly bitter" yup he's definitely English :D
46:33 omg the nerdy jokes lmao
Great match. Sadly, the forecast didn't bring enough storms.
best protoss vs terran match 3. gosh..I've seen a lot of starcraft...that was special!
Jesus what a great game this third one.I dont understand why Showtime didnt make any tempests late in the game, it looked to my newbish eye even 2 tempests would solve the liberation problem, and he already had fleet beacon for carrers...
1:32:44 It was at that moment, Showtime realized he f%$ked up. He right-clicked everything straight backward, but it was too late.
I clicked on the 'skip ad' at 1:18:40. NICE!
"Shaq at the free throw line!" ahahahaha
Winter: "The British like to spell things wrong!"
Also Winter: "Disdainful...that's not a word!" Ummmm....
The amount of skill Terrans have to split vs things is amazing. Clearly they are the most skilled of the 3 races. Don't @ me
Yes bcs the other races can just facetank disruptor shots and storms, which also take skill to land in the first place...
58:30 music came on point
anyone else waiting for the higher res before watching
We made it bois
that was a hell of a first match
Awesome gaming and casting. Thanks!
One of your best. well done. big like!
In part 32:48 there is a blizzards soundtrack/theme music, what is it called? been searching the song but couldnt find it:D
I can barely handle half a fight, these guys went at it for over half an hour. Insane.
So many 'Suspense' effects, so little time!
Lol I love winters enthusiasm. He’s the best!
Wow, this is one video whose title did NOT disappoint!
These were some of the best games I've seen. Bravo.
Showtime looking away from his army for a second to find the ghost nuking the base only for the carriers to get engaged on and wiped... Feels bad man
I have to say watching your casts makes me want to jump back into SC2 everytime
do it. He also has some easy guides for each and low apm challenges. Or you do just whatever is fun for you and chill out in silver league.
The news ticker at ~1:18:00 was priceless XD Where do you come up with this stuff?
Carriers, the Ultralisks of the Protoss Race
That last fight was so sick
Can the Raven disable disrupters? Especially when liberators are zoning out the stalkers...?
It's a shame advanced ballistics doesn't give Lexington rockets a bonus 1 or 2 range to them.
U are amazing at casting StarCraft congrats
What was up with that game 2? Cure didn't do any more drop play towards the end. Was it an apm issue?
Wow .. what a series of games.
I think what makes Terrains OP in pro matches is they can recover is a fraction of the time of any race even zerg
Gj Cure. Well played. Protoss big mistake he didnt use storm.but this way he games were 200% more entertaining.
Cant really use storm when there is so much emp
@@mattr791 He could with a prism. And not every game was EMP used.I think it was abusively used in 1 game only.
@@loecorristo555 as showtime explained it on stream with how good the top terrans have gotten with emp and splits using marauder heavy compositions it's just rare to get big storms thus he favors more front loaded damage (disruptors blink stalkers dts)
Cure's new nickname: the kill pill
Brilliant!
0 for 2, Shaq at the free throw line!!!
They swiped right and the bio made some bad life decisions xD
Man when pros play sc2 they make it look like a movie
Carriars should be alot better for their cost. Its pretty sad they take so long to make and they die so easy and do little usually
they are good in other match ups, in pvp they have no counter and they are good against zerg. But marines counter them.
nanananananana nanananana archons and tempest are a pretty good counter imo
Back in broodwar they had 4 armor. In SC2 they have 2 armor. Probably because they gave carrier the graviton catapult, that scaled up how fast a carrier can do dps. Now that graviton catapult is gone. It makes me wonder why they didn't get their 4 armor back.
@@bigsmoke4592 There easy countered by zerg the infestor just tears carriars to peaces. Watch the match of serral vs Neeb. Neeb had a maxed Golden armada and wouldnt come near the 20 infestors of serrel. Cause he would either fungal them or nearul parasite them or drop a dozen infested terran.
@@risiamoonfall975 that was last years patch, neural range got nerfed, infested terran removed. Plenty of pro protoss players like to go skytoss against zerg this year.
The title was so click-baity I thought I was on Buzz Feed (And That's a Good Thing).
he really upped his click-bait game
Being on BuzzFeed is never a good thing
Cure is really really good but...
In order to be a top Terran he needs to learn to split units against disrupter, or learn to juke them or w/e if he wants to become a top tier Terran.
His macro and tactics are good, but micro so far behind top terrans
down where it shows the players minerals and gas etc what does the +numbers mean next to the available gas and mins?
Great matchups. Impressive showcase of how weak Colossi and Carriers are. You Terrans better make the most of your time in the sun, because the next big patch you're getting nerfed.
1:12:30
I laughed out loud. What a great sentence xD
Showtime needs tempests, and he is not building them.
I do so love your casting
That was Epic..!!
Showtime was using Alphastar's build with the disrupters and archons.
Third game is an evidence that carriers need to be fixed
I watch your ads on TH-cam. Like this
"venn diagram of freedom" :)
Watching Wardi hi res video with the audio from Winter!
Who would have guessed Frank Underwood was into SC2
How is EMP even balanced? Destroyinh half the hp of an army that fast is insane
anyone else hurt by showtime's refuse to build 4-5 tempests ? he is playing so powerful siege style and those tempests could add so much to it. force bio to come for him, right on his disraptors.
Yeah i was also wondering about this in game 3. Especailly since he had already the fleet beacon from the carrer produciton...
I thought this guy and lowko were the same person for so long
at 35:00 your voice is so funny man, more plz
mmmm yeah JACKED UP AND GOOD TO GO
Mmmm yeah JACKED UP AND GOOD TO GO
Cure gonna be a champ this 2020.
Did you see his wm drops? Even forget to burrow them lol. Far from top plays
@@thienle743 he is only player who can reach 7k mmr in kr server except Maru. But far from top player? Stfu
@@invy8477 yah he could be good but he's not there yet, his micro is still lacking big time compare to ty or inno and everyone knows both are so bad rn. His macro did improve alot this year though
@@thienle743 ty micro is not good. Thats why he is bad at tvz.. even he said his micro is trash
When you introduce Cure just reference a Cure song then call him “The Cure”.
Skip ad isn't working.....
Showtime has been watching AlphaStar
If Halo was originally strategy game
So intense! :D
Ok imma wait for at least 720p :D
Also Ghosts are frickin insane against zerg and toss