From Fighter To MISSILE CRUISER!!

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  • Welcome to Episode 12 of my Cosmoteer Let's Play! Ever wanted to manage your own starship? How about building and upgrading it too? And what about more than one ship, your own fleet even? Cosmoteer has it all and more!
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ความคิดเห็น • 341

  • @Aavak
    @Aavak  ปีที่แล้ว +164

    If you are le tired from spending an hour and a half painting your missile ship, then you can take a nap... THEN FIRE Z MISSILES!

    • @neokoga
      @neokoga ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Bout that time eh chaps? right-o.

    • @KainYusanagi
      @KainYusanagi ปีที่แล้ว

      Aavak, the prism had no effect on the super shield. It's at the same angle it was at with the forward protruding armor before and after. o.O

    • @wolf2403
      @wolf2403 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That sounds like hell. Why do you do this to yourself? Oh wait... CONTENT

    • @jake_from_statefarm7209
      @jake_from_statefarm7209 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      California has broken off from the continental US and is haning out with Hawaii. Alaska can come, too.

    • @reaganmcmahon6955
      @reaganmcmahon6955 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love the idea of a missile carrier. I like the idea of a ship dedicated to the roll of shooting missiles. Just like you have a dedicated laser ship and a dedicated cargo/supply ship.
      Edit: I think it'd be great to have the name be "Fire Ant Major" or "Fire Ant Soldier" to both reflect its role and its new bulk.

  • @tehpyro86
    @tehpyro86 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I love the ship design. It resembles another very strong shape. This other shape may also shoot what could be considered missiles.... I have the mind of a 13 year old. Carry on.

    • @incognitoman785
      @incognitoman785 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      the thrusters seem to be a glaring weak point

    • @develpl
      @develpl ปีที่แล้ว

      Yer i See the Same i think it needs a New Name fire ant doesent fit anymore

    • @develpl
      @develpl ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The best Part is the top frusters

    • @smileman1480
      @smileman1480 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yes the strongest shape of them all

    • @ExtraRaven_
      @ExtraRaven_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i try so hard to ignore it... ahhhhhh

  • @jeandelaloza4317
    @jeandelaloza4317 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    4:36 It actually has a name, they're called a fleet coiller, or just a munitions ship. Historically important in the age of sail/steamships

    • @Aavak
      @Aavak  ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Aha, thank you! I should have remembered this as that's what they're called in Aurora 4X too XD

    • @Debbiebabe69
      @Debbiebabe69 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Fleet OILER..... although your mis-spelling is rather appropriate for Cosmoteer as keeping coils to repair damaged components can be vital!

    • @jeandelaloza4317
      @jeandelaloza4317 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Debbiebabe69 nope, I'm talking about ships that carried coal, not oil or fuel. Hence collier

    • @Tilion462
      @Tilion462 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jeandelaloza4317 Well, you did call it a Coiler not Collier, so easy mistake to make on both sides I guess!

    • @jeandelaloza4317
      @jeandelaloza4317 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Tilion462 lol true enough

  • @justinfriesen7155
    @justinfriesen7155 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It may be too late at this point but I REALLY REALLY like the idea of a laser guillotine with tractor beams pulling ships into it!!!

  • @dargonxon6291
    @dargonxon6291 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    I can only imagine that this episode was difficult to balance. If you want an opinion on how you managed to balance building and action, i think you nailed it. this was super fun to watch. for me at leastthis was the right mix of the design process and some gameplay. thanks aavak

    • @Aavak
      @Aavak  ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Cheers, I /really/ appreciate the feedback!

    • @KitomiKotiri
      @KitomiKotiri ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Aavak I feel the fire ant needs a new name because it got so big I suggest the Centipede because it is long

  • @renegadeleader1
    @renegadeleader1 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Looks like the Fire Ant grew up into an Ant Lion!

    • @caligo7918
      @caligo7918 ปีที่แล้ว

      at least a queen ant, but if this goes on, it might become the whole hive

    • @atomsorcerer8356
      @atomsorcerer8356 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thinking of the missile boat as an Any Colony, and all the missiles it fires as the Ants, is honestly a really cool idea

    • @recoil1337
      @recoil1337 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like "Firefly". For a whole list of reasons. Nice episode. Keep 'em coming. Out of all the Cosmoteer content right now, I consider yours to be the very tip top!

    • @Woffenhorst
      @Woffenhorst ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wouldn't that be switching teams?

    • @vbgvbg1133
      @vbgvbg1133 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Woffenhorst autobalance

  • @bhalucard85
    @bhalucard85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Aavak so on common theme you seem to have in a lot of videos is not enough crew. something to keep in mind is every station has it's own set of crew you can hire. so if you clear out one station go to another and hire from there. Plus you can hire crew from ships that have come to the station to trade. This should greatly help your crew issues.

  • @tomaszpiatkowski8438
    @tomaszpiatkowski8438 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I see the Fireant was equipped with stealth hyperdrives, one minute they're not in the design, another - they appear ;)
    29:40 The mightiest shape. (Sorry for taking your mind there of all places)

    • @a_commenter
      @a_commenter ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was thinking, I didn't want to be crude but the Fire Ant is certainly reminiscent of a particular shape, haha

  • @clubardi
    @clubardi ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A good name for a munitions ship could be Belostoma, which is a giant water bug that carry their eggs on their back, almost like 'ammunition'

  • @victornunes900
    @victornunes900 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    God, that last battle gave me such a The Expanse feel with all the PDC firing at the missiles. Awesome!

  • @OscarSommerbo
    @OscarSommerbo ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Avaak made a very phalic ship, complete with nads.

    • @Aavak
      @Aavak  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have bad news for you if seeing this twisty, spiky, be-mandibled shape conjures the aspect of a phallus in your mind...
      ... you may in fact, be a duck. XD

    • @OscarSommerbo
      @OscarSommerbo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Aavak I might be a myopic duck😄, but take a look at the green miniature picture, and you might see what I see.

    • @Debbiebabe69
      @Debbiebabe69 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Aavak 🦆

  • @exiledtobronze8694
    @exiledtobronze8694 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    @Aavak you can CTRL group your weapons (they control groups only exist for that ship so you can set them up for each ship if you want) so then you can turn off your EMP missile launchers so you're not using EMPs when you only want damage out of the Fire Ant

    • @nommy8599
      @nommy8599 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also having EMP and HE in different groups lets you set different targets.
      e.g EMP on engines or something, HE on some unshielded weapons that EMP doesn't effect much.

  • @entity279
    @entity279 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I somehow like the ideea of making these independent ship parts growing into the full blown ship whenever they get separated from the main body..

    • @zarnox3071
      @zarnox3071 ปีที่แล้ว

      However, without their own control rooms, they won't be of much use if they get disconnected.

    • @entity279
      @entity279 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zarnox3071 Right, but the game mechanics allow as far as i could gather to consider a piece as one different ship, which can then be repaired or rebuilt using the full blueprint?

    • @chengkuoklee5734
      @chengkuoklee5734 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Captain! I have a good news and a bad news. The good news is we destroyed the Mothership. The bad news is we are facing a fleet.

  • @firninarcheron1462
    @firninarcheron1462 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Eyyyyyy just as a heads up Aavak, when in build mode and looking at the crew. You’ll see a number like 15/72 or something similar. That left number is current crew, and that right number is how many bunks you have crew for! So when you said it needed 34, it actually required a WHOPPING 78 crewman! Of which you had bunks for only 34! You can find the needed crew recommended by the game, by hovering over that bar.

    • @morgansmith1529
      @morgansmith1529 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      from my experience with the game. that isnt a great indicator

    • @liafitriapurnamawati2432
      @liafitriapurnamawati2432 ปีที่แล้ว

      it display the ABSOLUTE minimum IF you have HORRENDOUSLY BAD crew management

  • @QuirkyView
    @QuirkyView ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I can't believe I never thought about pointing an Ion Prism at itself, and that sounds awesome. My immediate thought is that right at the beginning of this video you can actually utilize this without any changes to the ship, the final two prisms that fire into the main prism pointing out the barrel are barely pointed down. If they pointed at each other, they could achieve the effect, and then when you want to fire the laser, would redirect almost instantly and lose minimal amounts of damage to empty space while aiming the weapons from each other towards a ship.

  • @tubman1952
    @tubman1952 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    St. Algrothmus: Hey everyone on the interwebs... come see this one!

    • @Aavak
      @Aavak  ปีที่แล้ว

      A scholar and a gentleman you are!

  • @Beef__
    @Beef__ ปีที่แล้ว +16

    God I love those Enterprise style thrusters for the DPR3, I don’t care how stupid they are lmao

  • @antigravvector3721
    @antigravvector3721 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You get a like just for that thumbnail. Well played, sir. Well played.

  • @ExtraRaven_
    @ExtraRaven_ ปีที่แล้ว

    i really needed this video today, thanks a lot! i was really impressed by the fire ant's performance, especially in how the PD handled the swarm of missiles! that ship was a run killer for me, somehow even when i replaced my entire side with flak i just couldn't stop the missiles! thanks for making inspiring videos like this

  • @M19pickles
    @M19pickles ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am extremely excited to see you attempt my idea.
    Also at 20:20 your motorized walkways leading to the right hand side shield has the space next to the shield going the opposite way as the rest of the walk way.

  • @shae98sc2
    @shae98sc2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Aavak, you’ve inspired me to pick up this game, and only partially because of the mind melting of your “form over function” design philosophy…
    All jokes aside, love the content, look forward to more episodes of this and other series!

  • @Tabledar
    @Tabledar ปีที่แล้ว

    I love me some complex detached nacelles, Aavak. Probably my favorite ship of the series based on that alone.

  • @AwesomeJedi182
    @AwesomeJedi182 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how the fireant just does a sick drift to get into position before barraging the enemy with missiles

  • @GtierGoes
    @GtierGoes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very impressive! Really cool dynamic. Now the Fire Ant can actually damage enemy ships.

  • @MusingsofaMildManneredMan
    @MusingsofaMildManneredMan ปีที่แล้ว

    I could listen to Aavak say 'thruster cluster' on loop all the time... x

  • @bobthemudman5088
    @bobthemudman5088 ปีที่แล้ว

    From the Fire Ant to a Hornet's Nest. I like it.

  • @snowfox2192
    @snowfox2192 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So Aavak after hearing the idea with the ion prisms feeding into each other to "Charge" the beam I did some basic tests and I have good news and bad news. The good news is it does technically work, and creates a absolutely massive beam in terms of beam width if you feed 8 beams worth of energy into it. The bad news is when fired at a target the charged beam is about as effective as someone shooting a pea out of a straw and lasts a even shorter time. Same result with the ramming variety you mentioned.
    Seems the devs expected people to try it too, as there is a interesting reaction if you stop charging the prism assembly.

  • @00impulse00
    @00impulse00 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was a really well edited episode Aavak. Very nicely balanced between building and combat.
    The new missile ship is larger than I thought it was going to be, but it looks really awesome.
    Thanks as always for the great content Aavak!

  • @nickolasrealmjumper5172
    @nickolasrealmjumper5172 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:48 RAILGUN TIME!!!!!!!!!! I feel useful now for suggesting it a few episodes back. :)

  • @reaganmcmahon6955
    @reaganmcmahon6955 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes! Get to watch some Avaak before tree clearing an hurricane prep. Cheers from the Sunshine State!

  • @charlesboudreau5350
    @charlesboudreau5350 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Fire Ant went from being the Ant to being the whole colony sending swarms out

    • @Aavak
      @Aavak  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is an awesome mental image XD

  • @imblackmagic1209
    @imblackmagic1209 ปีที่แล้ว

    in the ship editor settings you can deactivate automatic door placement (so you don't have to remove them and then add them where you really want), it also helps to be more aware where the doors are for more efficient pathing

  • @tomabenas964
    @tomabenas964 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching the fireant's PD work its magic was cool to watch. I really wanna see like a sandbox battle between the fireant and a missile boat just to watch how well it can defend against it when the enemy isn't being cored alive by the Scarab

  • @Xenotric
    @Xenotric ปีที่แล้ว

    feeding the ion beams around the edges of the ship to make angry red laser armour sounds hilarious though but angry web spitting also cool.

  • @oashen5475
    @oashen5475 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good grief, the Fire Ant turned into the whole damn colony, impressive

  • @Herewantacookie
    @Herewantacookie ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Keep up the good work
    Always nice to see a cosmoteer vid

  • @Specter_ZO6
    @Specter_ZO6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I built myself a small self making nuclear missile ship properly called the “nuclear chicken” it’s painted like a chicken and armed with 6 total nuke launchers. It is flawed with little armor covering the thruster cluster. It has shields to cover its front and launchers and armor around the uranium and iron storage. It’s slow at reloading so it’s more of a strike and move ship. Operated by 32 crew

  • @porkeythejoejoe
    @porkeythejoejoe ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagining the Fire Ant evolving nukes is delightful.

  • @ayasekaru
    @ayasekaru ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think one useful way of making a Laser Trap would be akin to this:
    1> ^
    2> --------------- <
    god i hope that formats correctly
    the arrows represent the prisms. You trap the laser in the bottom row, then when you want to fire, you rotate the one on the RIGHT into the the one on the left side, top row. That one is attached to an aiming prism in the middle. That way you have to move them very little to release that burst.

    • @Aavak
      @Aavak  ปีที่แล้ว

      That makes perfect sense, thanks for the suggestion!

  • @bow-tiedengineer4453
    @bow-tiedengineer4453 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've tried the crystal charging thing, and done some tests: you only get about 2 ticks of extra damage. The one potential advantage is that you don't have any charge up time, so if you think the lack of a spooling up time is worth the extra crystal. Also, it's quite micromanagy to get it to work in a way that actually puts that little bit of bonus damage anywhere close to on target.

  • @BlazingImp77151
    @BlazingImp77151 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the idea of a railgun flanked by big ass lasers. definitely appeals to my sense of coolness. and you go from the 5.3 ion beams of power to something like 6.1 ion beams of power, albiet spread out.

  • @wolf2403
    @wolf2403 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:00 btw you could just add another reactor where one of the sensors is for now
    8:00 heh... railgun moment
    9:35 so auxiliary for the auxiliary

    • @Aavak
      @Aavak  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's fascinating watching you update the comment in real time XD

  • @Nevir202
    @Nevir202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IMO, as Fireant is already asymmetrical, move missile stockpiles to directly outside the missile batteries on the primary side, as instant reloading is the ship's number one priority in a battle.

  • @londoeblack
    @londoeblack ปีที่แล้ว

    Colour me impressed! Two thumbs up! Great video. Thanks!

  • @fr3nchy226
    @fr3nchy226 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Avaak, regarding the bit about thrusters being more efficient the closer their line of thrust is to the center of mass, this is actually technically false, or at least it should be. As long as the thrusters on the left are balanced by the thrusters on the right, they will be equally efficient. That being said, the design is far too cool to give up, and if a starboard engine is destroyed or runs out of power, then yes you will see the inefficiencies come up.
    Source - mechanical engineer
    Love this series! Scratches my need for designing pew pew spaceships!

  • @siennility4706
    @siennility4706 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
    In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
    The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.

  • @KuroroSama42
    @KuroroSama42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those point defense could be doing more harm than you realize, Aavak.
    Say, for example, you're in a fight and your crew fills the power on the important systems, they're then going to start moving power to a point defense. During that entire back/forth trip, they aren't re-checking the important systems. So if it takes too long to refill a point defense, your important systems could be getting starved for power.

    • @surgonan
      @surgonan ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why there is a priority system for refueling/charging and is independent from operating equipment

    • @KuroroSama42
      @KuroroSama42 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@surgonan Yeah, but notice my example. Even with priority elsewhere, if they take too long on that job it could interfere with more important jobs.

    • @nommy8599
      @nommy8599 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@surgonan Do you mean the role job priorities or when you tell a bunk they can only work in certain places?
      Either way, for anyone who's able to do the power job on the PD, the instant they've finished all other higher priority tasks they're gonna run off and be tied up doing the PD task for some time. If they're also meant to sustain a shield or something important that could be an issue. It may be set up to for it to not be an issue but may also be like the OP said - more impactful than apparent. Do you know which is the case?

  • @BuranStrannik
    @BuranStrannik ปีที่แล้ว

    Trap prism may be placed in the middle, between the collecting prism and the "barrel", and as close to centerline as beam mechanic allows. THis way it is protected just like all other central prisms, and to redirect the beam from it and down the barrel should be as fast as it gets.
    Even worth testing, if there is a way to turn them on and off and send the beam right "over" it without physical turning.

  • @renepro6964
    @renepro6964 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Aavak have u notice the new ''build a new ship from scratch'' button? Upper left corner. Love the series!

  • @brandoncarter3136
    @brandoncarter3136 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need more.
    I need rear facing fire-at-will pods extended behind so as to mitigate spin-hits.
    I need full blown broadside missiles.
    I need the fire ant to be a nest of angry Bee's!
    That thing has so much potential to be your dps and the scarab being the tank.

  • @heirofcarnage1782
    @heirofcarnage1782 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could expand the Hercules again, or you could make a sister mining/factory ship. Alternatively, you could just save and buy a second Hercules and have a twin.
    I think Atlas would be an awesome name to keep with the beetle and Greek mythology combination!

  • @theirDevil
    @theirDevil ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A beautiful ship! Albeit the name seams a tad inaccurate now. I love the isolated sub structure idea, and am excited to see the experiments with them continue.

  • @pickled_bacon
    @pickled_bacon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you "beat" this run of the game (not sure if there is an exact ending) or get tired, may I recommend the Steam Workshop, it already has a good chunk of mods, and ships too.

  • @tri99er_
    @tri99er_ ปีที่แล้ว

    A broadside missile cruiser is nice, but could've been a diagonal firward facing missile cruiser with walls of missile launchers at the sides pointing forward at 45° angle. That would both minimise the course correction (and travel time) for all missiles and also minimise the profile facing enemies.
    And since you don't need direct line of sight for missiles, you could stack as much missiles as you could fit.

  • @twigglywiggly4538
    @twigglywiggly4538 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just started playing this game and I'm finding yout videos very helpful. Thank you for making them.

  • @PyroMancer2k
    @PyroMancer2k ปีที่แล้ว

    On the Ion beams I actually think it's the people telling you not to merge them that don't understand. Your setup is perfect Tree setup to optimize merging. As you already covered the narrow gap makes it a LOT easier to defend the ship because you don't have as much open space.
    All that said the most important thing though is the focus fire. If you have a bunch of beams it creates an inverted cone of fire which means the damage is spread out over a larger area on the enemy ship. Have a single beams puts all that power into a single spot which makes it a lot easier to drill through an enemy ship and get to those critical systems. You end up losing a lot of damage potential because you have to go through more of the ship to reach the important part, and you'd get less salvage because your destroying more of the enemy ship.
    DPS means nothing, Effective DPS to take out target faster is more important.

  • @Hyper_Fox06
    @Hyper_Fox06 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's not "strip mining" it's "clearing space for safe intergalactic travel", the environmentalists can't complain that way 😁

    • @Aavak
      @Aavak  ปีที่แล้ว

      LMAO

  • @KuroroSama42
    @KuroroSama42 ปีที่แล้ว

    It seems like the Fireant really would be best engaging with it's rear to the enemy (moving the shields there). It has very little thrust in any other direction and the missiles don't care too much about orientation. Having it face away would let the rear thrust easily boost you to your preferred range.

  • @eyetooth
    @eyetooth ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great episode - as another commenter stated, you struck a perfect balance between ship building and battling! And I'm also in love with this new Fire Ant design, it was a beautiful thing watching it work :D

  • @trainmastertmh4876
    @trainmastertmh4876 ปีที่แล้ว

    An idea about the ion beam loop is to use a throw away prism attached with an explosive charge and detonate it to release the charge

  • @FriendlyFrienby
    @FriendlyFrienby ปีที่แล้ว

    After watching how much the Hercules grew, got me wondering if a massive capital ship was a way you could play this game. But watching the Fire Ant grow into a missile cruiser larger than the Scarab has been real fun. Can't wait to see what blows up next. XD

  • @Runetrantor
    @Runetrantor ปีที่แล้ว

    How in one fell swoop the Fire Ant went from plucky fighter sidekick to making the Scarab its sidekick in terms of size.

  • @rekkaba3924
    @rekkaba3924 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know you addressed the rule of cool, and why you have your beams set up as so on the Scarab, as well as hinted that you have a future plan in store for that, but based on how the scarab looks atm, rather then losing all that power with the merging beams, I think it would look pretty nice (and be more efficient) if you were to have each side you your current beam set-up fire out the side you your ship over towards your thruster clusters where you then have a prism that aims the beams either back near the front of your ship for final aiming, or just have them fire from the thruster clusters directly although some range would be lost by this. I think doing this though would allow for better protection of the beams since you wouldn't have a front facing thermal port (so to speak). biggest thing you'd have to worry about then is your aiming crystals, but I'm sure you could figure out how you'd want to protect them. Just my 2 cents.

  • @averywhitaker3513
    @averywhitaker3513 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was kind of on the fence about watching the stream before, but ion beam science has won me over

  • @xxbongobazookaxx7170
    @xxbongobazookaxx7170 ปีที่แล้ว

    16:28 I belive my reaction was "IT'S THAT ONE STAR WARS SHIP FROM EPISODE ONE POG"

  • @BalthazarB2
    @BalthazarB2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know, I have to pause the video to say this. You already mentioned a drinking game about calling your ships the wrong name before, but for several videos now I realized a better one!
    Take a drink every time Aavak says "thruster cluster". Seriously, I would be hospitalized by the end of the episode. XD
    Thruster cluster!
    Also, I feel really bad for those people living inside the thruster cluster. All they have is a room surrounded by engines. Not really the kind of career they imagined, I figure.

    • @Aavak
      @Aavak  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL, not considering to hire them I had to be a system renowned space captain. They likely imagined a life of swashbuckling and adventure... instead, they sleep under an engine XD

    • @tomaszpiatkowski8438
      @tomaszpiatkowski8438 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Aavak At least it's dry and warm, and as long as you hear humming, you know you are safe. It's when the engine falls silent you need to worry.

  • @strcmdrbookwyrm
    @strcmdrbookwyrm ปีที่แล้ว

    A thought I had based on the various Ion beam things you said at the beginning of the episode: What if you did have multiple outlets for your ion beams, but it was designed to take advantage of a resonance chamber? What I'm picturing is that you have a set of crystals pointing at each other, but if you moved one slightly in a direction it would then shoot into a pre-aimed output in a given direction. I think that would allow you to use the supercharged beam quickly, thus effectively negating any losses via stored power and not sacrificing defense.
    Is anyone catching my drift?

  • @tempusimperious5962
    @tempusimperious5962 ปีที่แล้ว

    The DPR2 could use some love, and maybe a few more armaments! I know it’s not supposed to see combat but with how far apart you have DPR1 and DPR3 from it they’ll be unable to rapidly respond to an errant pirate hoping to stuff its coffers! It already has the resources and facilities to manufacture ammunition, plus that gap down the center would be perfect for a railgun…

  • @Woffenhorst
    @Woffenhorst ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe the fire ant should be renamed "Army ant", as it sends out swarms of tiny things to devour all in its path? (At least until proper drone modules are added)

  • @Friend2Trolls
    @Friend2Trolls ปีที่แล้ว

    So some thoughts now that I actually watched the whole thing: I agree that more missiles look like what missile ships need, which might have explained a great deal of the Missile Fire Ant's first problems. You just need a certain weight of fire to do meaningful damage?
    Also, not sure how practical this is, but if you want to save space and power on your warships, can you make a brain ship? A ship that has a ton of bridges to give command points to make the other ships run? I'm not even sure if command points are a fleet wide resource, or if I'm misinterpreting what I'm seeing during the videos. Anyways, this is fun to see you play! It'd be cool to see proper strikecraft return at some point, maybe armed with heavy blasters or cannons as they make dives on the enemies, while your capital ships stay at range.

  • @elewe4594
    @elewe4594 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you I was really looking forward to this

    • @Aavak
      @Aavak  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're more than welcome :)

  • @bf109g14
    @bf109g14 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a much more efficient way you can setup the crystals for your ion beams
    Move the center crystal down by one tile, and then make a sort of stair steps pattern with the rest of the crystals, all pointing towards the center crystal. That way the ion beams will go through fewer crystals to get to the center beam, and you can get more damage output from it. Also, it requires one less crystal per side so Its cheaper

  • @ragerancher
    @ragerancher ปีที่แล้ว

    I think real civil engineer would approve of your strongest shape fire ant upgrade.

  • @LitVireMoon
    @LitVireMoon ปีที่แล้ว

    So. One of the big advantages to indirect fire weapons, (like missiles) Is that you don't have to present a wide part of your ship to be able to hit with many weapon positions. The reason for fighting with your broadside toward the enemy is to let as many guns as possible hit your opponent at once. Put cannons and/or lasers on one side, missiles on the other.

    • @Aavak
      @Aavak  ปีที่แล้ว

      I considered that, but then we'd just have to get even closer to engage.

    • @LitVireMoon
      @LitVireMoon ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Aavak presenting your broadside is nothing but a bad idea for a pure missile boat. Your making yourself a much bigger target with minimal advantage.

    • @LitVireMoon
      @LitVireMoon ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Aavak it wouldn't be hard to add forward defense with this setup. You'd want more side thrusters though.

  • @theavaliengineer
    @theavaliengineer ปีที่แล้ว

    If you could, I'd love to see sped up mining montages! I'd love to see the Hercules at work, even if sped up

  • @diegoFortMagic
    @diegoFortMagic ปีที่แล้ว

    For the prism beam loop, my worries are how to stop the loop without wasting the stored power, either hitting your own ship or shooting nothing while the prism rotates.
    Maybe you can set up two prism at the front side to side, one at the back. One of the front prisms is set up as turret. The other aims to the back one, which aims back at it to make the loop.
    When you want to fire, you tell the back prism to target the other front one, the one in turret mode. While the back prism rotates, it will still hit the looping prism, keeping the loop working until it hits the turret one which will redirect it to the enemy.
    If there is a gap between the prisms and the beam goes momentarily between the two prisms, maybe locating the turret prism a bit forward and behind the loopìng prism fixes that.

  • @willowterra402
    @willowterra402 ปีที่แล้ว

    the biggest problem with ion buzzsaws (where you charge forward with two ion prisms pointed towards eachother) is that the initial damage is high, but once the beam gets interrupted, it just becomes two ion beams melting from either side, so you lose a lot of the damage almost immediately.

  • @blumoogle2901
    @blumoogle2901 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eventually, it might make sense to offload the manufacturing process to what is essentially a space station, which only has shields and minimal menuevering thrusters, no offensive capabilities.
    Then a lighter to act as Fleet supply collier; heavy, fat, fast only in a straight line, point defence only, pure storage and minimum crew,
    A dedicated miner to supply the freighter that runs only to and from the station.
    Pretty soon you have a full economy going.
    Also, one point that I would like to see used more is the fact that its possible to push resource poor asteroids into position, encase them in scaffolding and trapped with four squares of armour, a single small cockpit, generator and 6 crew is enough to make a really big defended, hollow base with only minimal steel. This is essentially a shipyard, especially if parked near a friendly station in a very scary/high level solar system it makes a very good base. If you make a hook mechanism, you can link up such seperate bases mechanically to overcome the building size limits the game imposes on stations

  • @ThomasG1971
    @ThomasG1971 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think I would look at if it would be possible to have a Launcher/Storage/Launcher setup ... that way your people are only having to go a short distance to get the ammo needed ... other than that (and possibly downgrading an engine or two) I would say a truly functional design ... looking forward to the next upload

  • @DjDayOne
    @DjDayOne ปีที่แล้ว

    The backwards conveyors in the C&C section 😱

  • @Zimojovic
    @Zimojovic ปีที่แล้ว

    As I see, at this rate Hercules will need to be expanded at least double its size. Have fun.😁

  • @arboris
    @arboris ปีที่แล้ว +1

    got to love a good missile barrage 🚀

  • @cenzo_rex
    @cenzo_rex ปีที่แล้ว

    Aavak: The Fire Ant...has grown rather long!
    Me: Stop bragging, giggity😜

  • @GamingWeisenheimers
    @GamingWeisenheimers ปีที่แล้ว

    An excellent balance of build and gameplay. Explaining the plan first and then cutting away works fantastically.
    Questions though: did you unangle the flight direction?
    What about hyperdrives for the fire ant?

  • @Max-om7bk
    @Max-om7bk ปีที่แล้ว

    It may work best to put your capture prisms back in the beam chamber, so your targeting prism out front can stay "on target." Have the capture prisms dump their energy into the aiming prism, which is not part of the capture array, I mean.

    • @Max-om7bk
      @Max-om7bk ปีที่แล้ว

      Specifically, your last two collimating prisms are perfectly arranged right now to be a capture pair that then redirects into the aiming beam prism(s).

  • @basildaoust2821
    @basildaoust2821 ปีที่แล้ว

    A video I saw showed a similar design but used 2 beams both with 8 lasers, interesting that you both stopped at the same place :) I will say his ship used a lot of specifically assigned crew to make it good. Though I sure would have liked to see more combat. I saw another ship that used a railgun setup with a LONG railgun, enough for a 200% boosted damage, which they claim made the weapon do 30,000 damage, I do wish it fired faster and maybe that is an alignment speed issue or a crew limit to get the rails filled with batteries, not sure really, but it did nice through the ship/station type damage :) OK, it did not go through the station to be fair but it could shoot from outside base range and was in good shape when done.

  • @PhoenixRevival00
    @PhoenixRevival00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fire Ant is now more of a Bullet Ant. heh

  • @Alnarra
    @Alnarra ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how the fighter has effectively become the cruiser :P, it's bigger then the scarab at this point, clearly it is the flag ship

  • @lamtel3236
    @lamtel3236 ปีที่แล้ว

    22:08 don’t forget to change those crew movers to their correct orientation, some are facing the wrong way

  • @5peciesunkn0wn
    @5peciesunkn0wn ปีที่แล้ว

    Something this game needs; anti-missile missiles. That'd be fun to see.

  • @TallinuTV
    @TallinuTV ปีที่แล้ว

    Because the 25% reduction always applies to the strongest ion beam received by a crystal, “charging up” a beam between two crystals by aiming them at each other very quickly hits a limit where it can’t store any more energy, and it turns out to be worth only a very small amount of bonus damage, especially compared to the large penalties which result from ion emitters going offline and disrupting the 2:1 equal merge tree. Putting in an extra reactor or two to feed the emitters (you could just split that one central reactor into two like a dividing cell really easily) would have a much stronger effect compared to trying to strike a balance between charging up a crystal and running out of power and heavily nerfing the dps output instead of increasing it.

  • @chasingthefish9042
    @chasingthefish9042 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fire ant should be launching nukes!

  • @jaymoser7953
    @jaymoser7953 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a thought, if you point two crystals at each other to gain a charge instead of aiming directly at an enemy, if you aim at a discharge crystal (out put crystal). This way the out put would go exactly where you want it, in theory, and the discharge path can be very close to the main path.

  • @coyjin
    @coyjin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "But I'm le tired"
    Only og's will get it

  • @anthonylewis5503
    @anthonylewis5503 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    call it the major fire ant

  • @zoranspirkovski9721
    @zoranspirkovski9721 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I may have too much of a dirty mind for this ship design.

  • @Kyrinson
    @Kyrinson ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like that self contained thruster design. I think I'm going to try it out on my ship... though that's mainly because my current ships top speed is 32... it takes a while to get across the system.

  • @tylerjohnston5336
    @tylerjohnston5336 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think it The fire-ant more reverse thrust to help it hold along side,or maybe come up on one side then circle behind the targat and come along side on the other side

  • @maximilianschultz8244
    @maximilianschultz8244 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can slightly tweak the crystal array? You have the fore targeting crystal which is fine. You have the central focusing crystal, which you need, but maybe could shift more to the fore. Then you may be able to have each beam directed at the focusing crystal to reduce your total crystals from 12 to 10.

  • @nommy8599
    @nommy8599 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice missile ship! Worked well, though TBH I reckon that other one at the end would've been a lot lot tougher if it just had a sensor so it could fire back from the start.
    I'm interested to know, what do you think of the idea of testing modules individually in a creative save?
    - Can use auto-fire to check how sustainable stuff is like engines, launchers etc
    - Focusing on a single thing will make it easy to optimize it and see issues
    e.g
    - That small reactor will only power those 3 huge thrusters for 80 seconds at best, less if firing other thrusters too
    - engine room buffed engines use 50% more power - it only says on the stats screen, not description
    - After first 3 shots launchers really benefit from ammo as close as possible (like right beside them)
    - that and the crew available to reload them determines their usefulness after the 1st strike
    - factories right beside launchers may actually be better for long fights (less carrying work (porter is it?:))
    Anyway, cool design, worked great!
    I personally like when you do things really well, form and function, and I think if you purposely tested stuff under artificial stress (creative) it'd help that a lot. Dunno if it's your style or if you've tried it, but I'm interested in what you think. GL!