Stealing Ore From the Sun!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ย. 2022
- Welcome to Episode 19 of my Cosmoteer Let's Play! Ever wanted to manage your own starship? How about building and upgrading it too? And what about more than one ship, your own fleet even? Cosmoteer has it all and more!
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May I suggest the name 'Icarus' the mythological figure who "flew too close to the sun". Bonus, it's also the name of a beetle.
You beat me to that name.
Same
Oooh now I'm torn between this suggestion and Atlas Moth
great suggestion!
@@planetfall5056 apparently there's an Icarus Moth too.
It seems to me the Dapper 4 would be best named after a moth, given it flies into the big glowy thing. Perhaps the Atlas moth, as it holds massive rocks in its tractor beam, or a hawk moth, a family of moths known for distance travel and long reach. Bonus points in that they're also known as sphinx moths.
"like moths to a flame"... Massive approval!
Love it! Atlas Moth is so good!
I'm partial to the "Sphinx Moth," not only because of moth's general attraction to flame in the dark, but also because of the Sphinx's association with the Egyptian sun god, Ra.
@@CarlGorn I agree massively with the sphinx. But I'd also like to suggest the kapri. In mythology he is the aspect of ra that is responsible for reviving him. Litterally burrowing in to revive him. Also kapri sun the drink you drink on a hot sunny day. And again it's a Beetle.
Only problem I have with this name is that, historically, moths tend to be very bad at surviving their fiery attraction. It would worry me if I were crew on such a ship
39:51 You can paste entire roster of roles by going into the Manage Crew tab, click the option box, and there's a "copy/paste/load roles" under where save ship design is. You can also configure default roles for all your ships. Very useful for making fleets of fighter ships.
Specifically, it's the hamburger menu to the left of the 'Crew Management' header about 8/9ths of the way down the screen, above the roster count, to the right of the |< >|
Now if there is a way to save squad mode orders and bunk room assignments I haven't found it.
The one part I really need.
@@nocare yes i wish this all saved when saving a ship design. would be useful
You may not like it but Dung Beetle is a really good name for a ship that goes and grabs a big ball of goodies and brings it home
Only if you consider "dung" to be goodies :)
but... scarabs ARE dung beetles...
The dung beetle is the layman term for the scarabaeinae or scarabaeoidea, common name: scarab.
@@nazaxprime heh. gathers big giant piles of "stuff" and rolls it backwards. fitting. lol
For the DPR4 name, the irony of naming a sundiver craft The "Luna moth" tickles me in just the right way.
Also, it occurs to me, Both the Sundiver craft and the luna month share similar niches to brave inhospitable environments in order to bring life to the next generation
i would say Icarus for flying so close to the sun... and we know eventually Aavak will fulfill the other half of the myth of Icarus
Maybe call the DPR3 "Leafcutter"? As leafcutter ants are renowned for bringing resources back to their colony
EDIT: now that you suggest it, "Dung Beetle" is also an interesting name
All ants (with very few exceptions) are renowned for bringing resouces back to their colony. Leafcuttes are renowned for cutting leaves and cultivating a special typ of fungus as food.
scarab is already a dung beetle
If you call one ship type "Leafcutter" then you're going to need to break out the entire ant species anthology for the full impact of education and terror.
I know you don't like it, but "The Dung Beatle" would honestly fit so well because both are moving giant round objects
@Aavak if u open the Crew menu, to the left of "Crew Management" there's a menu button that allows u to copy all crew roles from 1 ship to another.
When you tell a ship to move to another object there are 2 types of "follow" commands. The one you're using is based on the target's orientation, but there's one that is based on the space grid. This other one would have the desired effect you were trying to achieve when moving the wreck near the station. I beleive the default hotkey to switch between them is Alt (click on target and drag to set distance, then press Alt (or w/e the hotkey actually is) before releasing the mouse button).
Or press Z to only move without turning.
Hey Aavak, a few small tips. Building a corridor over any structure when in build mode will fill in the entire footprint of the structure with corridor instead of leaving an empty space like with the delete tool, so you don't have to fill it back in. You can also go into crew management mode with the Scarab (or any ship with your preferred crew roles) and open the drop-down menu to select "Save as my default roles" and then any new ships you make will have those roles available to start with instead of having to manually copy them over. And lastly if you want to move your ship without rotating you can use the strafe button (cardinal cross or hotkey Z) to do so instead of having to manoeuvre in relation to a ship (or asteroid). Hope this is helpful!
That ship getting stolen was one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Comedic gold. Sorry about Wales losing at the WC. Mainly sorry we couldn't beat you guys and settled for a tie. :p Finally caught up with this after being with family for a week for Thanksgiving.
Yeah, watching some random NPC yoink my ship was equal parts hilarious and frustrating XD
Dung beetle!!!! First thing that came to mind. It digs in to where nothing else wants to be, and pulls out the nutrients to feed the fleet!
My initial idea was the Firefly especially when you see the shields start to glow in the sun. Also I would consider the name part of mythology in a fashion…
Firefly was the name I landed on too
You found a small asteroid close to the perimeter. All the ones I found were bigger and deeper. You take more damage the closer you get. Also, pushing the asteroid with the ship is much more efficient than the tractor beam (though it requires you get closer to the sun).
Hey Aavak, I would like to suggest "Sisyphus" as the name for the DPR4, as it not only fits your like of mythology, but is also the name of genus of beetles.
Sysiphus was never meant to achieve his goals of bringing in the boulder as instructed by Hades.
I built my "Solar Tug" with just one large shield. Worked fine, but could do with two tractor beams to speed things up.
8:00 the railgun hit made my jaw drop! Railguns definitely give me superweapon vibes.
The Sun Beetle, or Pachnoda marginata peregrina, are medium-sized beetles that live in tropical Africa. They have a yellow with brownish-black front wings that can be seen on its back. Their body is shiny black. I think that would go well with the name and color scheme of your fleet if you switch the brown part for a red.
Nice idea
11:00 - GIT DOWN MR PREZIDENT!!!!
I call to name the DPR 4 the Sunburst as that is the name of a beetle that dives with the help of keeping an air bubble around its head like the shields.
If you want to stay away from enclosing thrusters, this might be a good scenario for a diagonal ship. That could keep the overall profile of the thrusters in a narrow area without enclosing them
I like the idea of calling it the "Mantis" - reaching out and grabbing prey and whatnot
grong cannot compete with the naming when facing off against entomologists
I did a little testing and found that without being actively recharged, a single large shield generator can last just over 5 seconds exposed to the sun (40.5s at 1/8 speed). divide the power capacity (18) by that and you get a power usage of around 3.6 energy per second per shield. a single large reactor produces 13.5 energy cells per second so you could actually run about 3.8 large shields off of one big reactor, though id recommend instead using one medium reactor (4.5/s) per shield. it still has a sizeable factor of safety without being nearly as expensive
Thanks for the info!
I thought you might want a diagonal ship for getting stuff out of the sun. It’s much more efficient on engine and shield space.
That way you don’t have to build that big protected engine thing; you can just point them out around the shields at a 45* angle.
Sticking to the bug theme I'd suggest either the Tardigrade or "Water Boar" as it's said to be one of the most durable creatures in existence, able to withstand extreme temperatures, extreme pressures, radiation, starvation, and much more.
On the other hand, the DPR-4 is only very durable in one direction. It's very weak on the others.
the Saharan Silver ant has a coating to allow it to survive the heat of the midday sun in the Sahara, Silver Ant seems appropriate for the DPR 4
The "Darkling Beetle" is a type of desert-dwelling beetle that drinks water from the air to keep itself cool. It does so by standing on its head, which somewhat reminds you of a certain ship that can't turn around.
Yes, the _Scarab_ very much screams "blood for the blood god!"
If you were to weaponize the DPR4, a couple of suggestions...
Build a bumper of structure just behind the projected shield line, that way even if ships ram into you, they won't immediately be past your shields and firing into your soft, squishy, interior.
Next, more of a strategy suggestion, but you can use the tractor beam for combat too. The tractor beam, while in pull mode, will greatly speed up your ship if you are moving towards what you are pulling, allowing you to potentially close the gap before the first volley is fired. Once they are resting firmly against your bumper, you can bore into them with your choice of weapons, my suggestion would be cannons of some kind along with a few disruptors to help handle shields.
the area you are protecting from the sun can be smaller for a more forgiving power bill on the exposed side shields; by heightening the side armor slightly.
Of course it's gotta be the dung beetle ! It's so freaking perfect !
Watching the 2 ships fight their way into the sun was hilarious
The Dapper 4 should be the Firefly.
also it could probably use at least a couple small side thrusters, that should help with any drifting issues also.
I always get excited when I see this pop up in my feed
Rhino beetle seems like a nice fit for a strong armoured ship that drags astroids round, so nice to see you enjoy this game so much, great videos bud keep it up
You should absolutely put a scaffold bumper reaching towards the shields, though still protected by them. Under no circumstances do you want to pull something so close that your shields can no longer be projected.
this is an oversight i had not forseen but then is the sun damage not defended by the object blocking the super shield?
@@chaintheguardien A bit of scaffolding is cheap and light enough that it might as well be there as a failsafe, just in case anything goes wrong.
When your ship got hijacked, it reminded me I had just tried that tactic earlier today. I nabbed the local trader's cannon defense base, hauled it off to a pirate base, and let it loose. As expected, it attacked the few ships, and I flanked them while they were distracted by the cannon base. After all, was done, the poor cannon base hobbled back home. Not a great strategy (certainly not for higher levels), but it was fun.
The Dung Beetle is a perfect name. Not only does the mythical dung beetle roll around the sun it also survives its heat, never faultering. It's a great myth and as far as names go, an awesome homage. :3
but the scarab already is a dung beetle
I suggest calling it the Kingfisher. It's a bird that swoops down from a birch to quickly grab prey. Seems appropriate for a ship that swoops in to catch an asteroid and quickly pull it out.
11:29 Lmao the blunt honesty from Avaak
Two naming suggestions: Serious suggestion. "The Moth" Either just that or a specific species. Atlas Moth, maybe, because it's hauling things out of a gravity well and thus holding up the sky.
"Moth" because of the old moth to a flame allusion; It is literally diving into the sun's fire. If moths had spacesuits, tractor beams, and energy shields then this is what moths would do.
Entirely unserious Culture Ship Name-type suggestion: "I'm not getting up close because I like you ore anything."
you know, a Tsun-diver.
I wouldn't go with Dung Beetle, but if you're doing mythological names, I am fond of Khepra, the scarab/dung beetle-faced god of the rising or morning sun. Bonus points for the 40k reference.
Seems like the fire ant could use an upgrade to its armament package to put it more on par with the scarab. I imagine once you start seeing craft that challenge the scarab, you’ll be glad you did
Aphodiinae is the subfamily of "small dung beetles" so I suggest Aphod, like "aphid" which is a bug themed name, and a lot less cumbersome or ugly than "dung beetle"
"Fire Chaser" is a beetle that lays its eggs in smoldering forest fires. You also have a Firefly which pretty basic but clean and simple.
the spider? it nets its prey and drags it to the "nest" for "consumption"! love the series love the scarab and fire ant additions, and i would love to see deck guns! thanks for continuing the series! FOR THE SWARM!
Wow... A Sunshine reference. Did NOT see that coming lol! And a name suggesting for the DPR 4: The Mantis, as mantids are all about snatching things and eating them up!
You can copy an entire crew role roster from any ship whos blueprint has been SAVED. Just go into your crew management and find the tab near the top for replacing crew roles. Then you just have to select the ship you want to copy the roles from and hit load.
For your sun-diver's weapons, you could go with mining lasers. They can also be put behind the defensive front of the craft, but they don't stun your crew. Also they would let the sun-diver go out on its own and not need to be baby-sat by the Hercules for asteroid mining. Mining lasers are super short-range, but between star-proof shields and tractor beams, you should be able to close to firing range. If you have two tractor beams, you could even spin the enemies around to digest their vulnerable sides and back with sweet laser-venom. As an aside, if you go with this plan, you might want to see if you can get star-proof small shields since if you close to actually melee distance, your shields don't work, and it'd be nice to have some armor. I suspect that if you layer 6 forward-facing small shields adjacent to a large reactor (two in front and two along each side with the doors at the front and back edges of the reactor), they may be enough, though I don't own the game yet to test.
This is an amazing suggestion!
There is an Icarus moth. Satisfies the solar reference, the insect requirement, and mythological soft spot.
I'm less than a minute in and I already have a name idea. Keeping with the bug theme: the "Cockroach" is an insect which specifically is highly resistance to radiation, often in popular culture considered to be able to survive nuclear blasts, which themselves are very much like the sun when you get close.
As a thruster cluster buster, the railguns certainly pass muster.
The DPR4 finds food bigger than itself and moves it back home, just like the dung beetle. That's the name I'd use for the ship.
15:38 It always has, it's just that now you have space for extra, rather than going into a deficit every time you need them for something else lol
The Dapper 4 should be named either The Icarus, or after one of the more majestic moths. It literally flies towards the biggest lightbulb in space
Cool sun lifter, that was well made!
It is more intense the closer you get.
You can limit the area of side shields by blocking with armor.
6 guys is the max a shield can use with large reactor: 18 power capacity = 6 x 3 power. The last couple of guys only work when shield fails completely. (Better to have more shields with less guys each if that's happening).
If you click the asteroid you csn have your ship maintain a set distance. I think you did this once.
Tractors pull the strongest at max range.
Can also make a ship to move asteroids without tractor if you make a big space in the middle where the asteroid sits. I did this and it worked fine. I think you get more thrust for limited crew BC tractor takes a lot to operate etc.
GL!
Edit: also, if you make the shields a slight V shields extend a bit further sideways and cover others a bit more. Not sure if it's worth.
All very good suggestions!
I think you also need a shuttle. To be able to jump resources to stations and turn in missions and also recruit from the whole galaxy would be pretty neat.
I'm a bit iffy on the forward shield modules for the DPR-4 you design at 29:11 . I think you have the right amount of crew and power, (probably even far more crew than needed) as well as distance from shields to reactor down fine, but it's the bunk positioning that I think can be optimized further. The way you have the bunks now, the crew have to travel a minimum of four tiles through the reactor at half speed to get from their bunk to the door of the shield generator closest to the bunk, and then one more tile into the shield generator room to deliver the battery. This is the best case scenario. Once they are there and there continues to be power demands, they will travel back and forth between the closet spot of the reactor and the shield generator tile, but if the generator ever fills even for a moment, the crew will begin to head back to their quarters before getting called back to duty and turning around.
The crew being those extra tiles distant to begin with means that there is a delay in initial response time after the shields start taking damage, and the crew sometimes returning to their quarters before turning around and continuing to supply power means there could be hiccups in your energy supply rate. It certainly seems like the power of a large reactor and the overwhelming amount of crew assigned to those quarters are easily offsetting the negatives of the placement for now, but if you start having trouble keeping the shields up, you should consider moving the bunks to the corners of the reactors closest to the shield generators. This would leave the crew with a two-tile trip to bring power to the shields for max response time and minimum possible variation in supply rate.
Loving seeing a ship built to lift asteroids from around the sun. The way the ship has been built though means it would be faster flying backwards to get to a destination rather than forwards. It might work out to reverse the design and then have the ship “back up” towards the sun when it gets there. Otherwise fly it backwards from place to place.
I think a very fitting name for the DPR 4 would be: Icarus
The ship's wheel button in the top left of the control panel gives you manual WASD control of the ship. This would be ideal to keep the sunlifter from rotating while operating.
Hey, would you consider publishing your designs on steam workshop? They look really nice and I would love a chance to play with them myself (especially Scarab).
I would like to suggest the "Khepri" in Egyptian mythology he is a scarab faced god. Represents the morning or rising sun. By extension represents creation. Oh depending on the version he also burrows into ra to revive him...
May I also sugesst that we call the DPR 4 The FireFly as it is a beetle, but bonus points for it beeing a tribute to the serenlty and a fantastic Sifi western that was to good for this world.
I find it amusing that the artillery ship is named Scarab. 1997 Auron game Dark Reign featured the Imperium S.C.A.R.A.B. Self Contained Armored Ranged Artillery Battery
that fight around 38:00 makes me repeat my suggestion to put all the nukes on one side of the fireant, for when you want to drop a big fat broadside
I love playing head cannon by combining games like this and Rimworld. Especially considering how easy it is to leave crew behind...
"It could go in so many different locations" 😅 that's what they said 😂
My suggestion for a name for the DPR4 is the "Silver Ant", after the Sahara Silver Ant. Its body is covered in tiny silver hairs, which act as a mirror and reflect both light and heat waves away, and it can survive temperatures up to 53°C, which, as far as I can tell, is the hottest survivable temperature of any other insect.
As you're stealing from the gods, I'd suggest the DPR4 be named Prometheus.
Now this is an interesting suggestion!
Something I would recommend for the future, when you have access to more crew, is a small 6-12 crew scout ship, something that can fly fast, and jump for cheap.
My personal design has a large cargo container, a mining laser, 2 jump drives, and a scanner. This allows it to be able to fly quickly around the sector, finding every POI, maybe do a bit of mining, and can jump for around 2 hyp across a sector. It can also ferry small amounts of resources between faraway ships, so I can resupply my missile ships while my forge trundles its way across the sector.
Naming it something like the bumblebee might work, since it brings goodies back to the "hive".
It also brings to mind the gif of a bee stealing a portion of someone's lunch, and would be a funny reminder of the time it got ship-napped.
That railgun alpha-strike of the Scarab leaves a small mess in me knickers every time I watch it absolutely cleave a Tango. I have known since watching pre-alpha they were insane... but seeing it... *shiver*
Monarch like the butterfly because of how delicate it is. Shape requirements are quite fitting too since it needs to be wider in the front
Dapper 4 Name idea as "Fire Fly" "lighning Bug"
Able to survive in the suns... wait for it... waited years for this... Danger Zone~♫ That felt goooood.
32:00 - You don't have to bury the thrusters in the ship for a sun diver. 45-degree ships have thrust off center but still protected by shields up front.
This is a very, very good point!
The _mission_ is titled "Pirate Hunter." Its _targets_ are pirates, and _you_ are the hunter. ;)
"Imagine thinking you're tougher than the sun? The f*cking sun?"
when in battle, you can set the default attack distance, rotation and approach angle through the ship menu. Very helpful for long range ships that fire backward while keeping distance.
I was hoping you’d start playing with tractor beams. This video does not disappoint!
I'm probably way too late on this, but I propose the whirligig, for two reasons.
1) the whirligig is a type of beetle that swims around on mainly on the surface of the water (known for tight turns/spinning), but can also dive below water when it feels necessary, like this ship dives into the sun belt (or whatever you want to call it).
2) I predict that you will have more fun calling it the whirligig than any other name =D
LMAO I love how Aavak is teaching us to make sure blueprint mode is on before starting a new ship by letting his ship fragment get "stolen" by a random NPC ship LOL
"It could go in so many different locations." -Aavak, 2022
There's only one insect that can survive being lit on fire and irradiated to feast on poisoned leavings and escape unharmed.
Your sundiver ship is The Cockroach.
This is looking more and more like warhammer ship design. I freaking LOVE the gothic design.
i learnt a trick from 'Nilaus' if you have rockets connected to an engine room, you only need to supply the engine room power and the rockets don't even need doors and the engine room will reload all conected rockets, even boosters get refueled, but if you have doors to the rockets the crew will fill the rocket, but if you got extra time for your crew to run around, by all means let them run free, just guess it might be helpfull for your 'Icarus"
Waterspider. Think about it. It dives into somewhere other things of its kind usually don't survive. It grabs it and pulls it away to suck out it's juicy parts.
You can hold Z while giving ships a movement command and that will tell them to strafe rather than turn and fly, useful for this ship I think. Also I think Ikaros or Leafcutter would be good names for the DPR 4.
@Aavak, it's actually possible to copy/paste Crew Role Rosters. The hamburger menu right next to the re/undo buttons above the roster button has the option to save Crew Roles as your preferences. Then you can just load them (add to or replace) whenever you make a new ship.
Sand wasps are known for burrowing into sand that is up to 110 degrees. That might be a name for the Dapper 4.
The 'pulling something without turning the ship'-problem can be solved by adjusting the flight direction of the ship. (or by using the manul controls, but that's pretty hard with the high power to weight ratio of a tugboat)
Prometheus sounds good if we're talking mythology.
If we're talking bugs I'd go Firefly.
I have a great name for The DPR4 you should call it the "Star lifter" because it lifts ores out of the suns area of effect (but it's also based off the giga structure you can build in stellaris if you have giga structues mod)
If I recall correctly, there is a strafe-move option. I don't know what the hotkey is, but if you have a ship selected and click the button that has a circle in its center with 4 arrows coming off from it in the cardinal directions, you can tell your ship to move to a location without turning. Rather useful for this sort of thing, aswell as just general maneuvering.
The word you're looking for is probably "heliosphere". It's the volume around a star that gets pelted by the solar winds. While they are not outright destructive, they do have adverse effects on the passengers of vessels venturing outside of the protective magnetic fields of the earth. It is still one of the touchstones for human missions to Mars.
When using engine rooms you should remove the doors to the thrusters as the engine room will provide power to the engines when they need it and this prevents crew from walking further, therefore increases efficiency.
3:40 - Hubris! Hubris! Hubris! Hubris!
4:33 - I think it looked better when it had the black strip down the middle. . . Unless I imagined that.
52:20 - Pretty effective with tractor beams.