What I am saying is that you don't need 1200 HP outside of endless missions and in those missions 1200 HP isn't nearly enough. So it's either overkill or not nearly close to being good enough.
Arcane blessing's niche is frames who have damage reduction in their kit but not a huge health pool. Also you can use dispesery, vorunas helminth, or synth deconstruct on your build to get health orbs which pairs well with the health conversion mod for armor instead of using umbral mods. I made a nova build video using arcane blessing and i think it's amazing on her for steel path content. I havent tested it on an endurance run yet but an hour on sp conjunction survival is cake. Also for newer players getting just one of these is pog.
@@AlvinEarthworm because health and armor work fine on a lot of frames especially when they arnt doing extremely long endurance runs. Its way more chill than shield gating and you dont get one shot by toxin damage also.
I think you forgot that primary frostbite adds crit multi not reload speed, but overall the conclusion stays the same, merciless is straight up better in most cases, frostbite could be better if you had other external sources of additive damage boosts and/or weapon has very good crit stats, or the funky cedo mesa build which uses her 1 to boost the damage of alt fire, and surpirisingly the bonus damage from it doesnt scale with additive damage but does with most other damage boosts including crit multi
Your point on Arcane Blessing is such an ass. Level 4000 Bambard, oh yeah. Because 99% of the players will play survival mission for 12 hours :p Not like we cannot build Voruna or Necros for Health Conversion. Let's go 1000% efficiency with builds almost no one can use or even build because: 1. People don't have time to farm arcanes, 2. Prices of Arcanes are ridiculous in some cases. We can't have fun, we let's just bash DE with "it's shit". I'm sick of this mentality 😑
It's really difficult to take your opinion seriously when you clearly stopped watching halfway through the segment as I literally adresse 90% of your concerns immediately afterwards.
This. It's not endgame viable by any means but for newer or casual players who don't have the meta arcanes, it's super easy to farm and 1200 health is never a bad thing to have. I know because I'm one of those players so I'm quite happy that I can slap this on pretty much any frame rather than have an empty slot.
Theres 1 particular scenario where Arcane Blessing is good. You run Despoil Desecrate Nekros and Instead Energy Efficiency u use Equilibrium. That way u alaways gain 50 energy per kill and u can swap Arcane Energize that has like 12 sec delay. 3:35 Your argument is invalid you tank bombard with shield gating anyway.
First up: instead of wasting an entire arcane slot you can just use synth fiber (one mod) on your companion. secondly: that's what I am saying: You need to have your shield gate active to not die at higher levels the amount of health you have under your shields is irrelevant. Again this could stack up to 12k HP and it still wouldn’t matter
The synth mod set is a decent way to spawn more health orbs if you're not running a frame like Nekros or Voruna. But even then Arcane Blessing is having to compete with other more useful arcanes for the slot. Not worth it.
@@semtexagon Synth Deconstruct also spawns extra health orbs from enemies damaged by your companion. Works pretty well with the Panzer Vulpaphyla's spores.
I actually mentioned that in both this and last video. And I genuinely don't know what you mean by busted. There is nothing busted about 1200 flat health. If you are talking about being able to pick up health orbs without missing any health then just use synth fiber on your companion.
I like arcane rise, makes the Vectis just that much more usable in normal missions Edit: I like the video, very well thought out, you have earned a subscribe
You know, everyone tends to orbit the meta while never actually playing it, due to personal preferences, this video is meant to deliver on these arcanes relevancy and overall potential and then let people decide if that fits their play style. TL;DR: what you said.
Arcane blessing doesn't gain anything from Voruna's 3rd ability. You are of course welcome to make it a mainstay, but statistically it's not a good arcane.
the frostbite one will see the most use in eidolon hunts seeing as it adds stuff based off status effect high so sc and high fire rate is gonna be used more secondarys
The only weapon I can forsee people using Primary Frostbite on is Lenz, but even then MErciless may still be better. That being said, I see these arcanes only really being useable in the mid game before a person reaches Steel Path, as you can easily farm these arcanes before SP.
My guess is that, because these are avalible before SP, they felt that they had to scale them back... but come on SP is around the bend if you have the Zarriman.
The arcanes are just useless why not have them be something like Cascadia flare where yes its niche, but stronger than merciless or deadhead. I was really hoping to see something like that with frostbite, but sadly no.
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"Your run into lvl 4k bombard", riiight because 90% of players will encounter that.
What I am saying is that you don't need 1200 HP outside of endless missions and in those missions 1200 HP isn't nearly enough. So it's either overkill or not nearly close to being good enough.
I level 300 bombard can be encountered 70 mins in lua and can one shot high health
I have it on my baruuk. 1800 health plus 90%+ dr I can be lazy in steel path when I don’t want to be bothered with the low health shield gate spam.
@@semtexagon nekros would like to talk to you.
Arcane blessing's niche is frames who have damage reduction in their kit but not a huge health pool. Also you can use dispesery, vorunas helminth, or synth deconstruct on your build to get health orbs which pairs well with the health conversion mod for armor instead of using umbral mods. I made a nova build video using arcane blessing and i think it's amazing on her for steel path content. I havent tested it on an endurance run yet but an hour on sp conjunction survival is cake.
Also for newer players getting just one of these is pog.
Why would you build for health/armor when shield gating is objectively better for survivability?
@@AlvinEarthworm because health and armor work fine on a lot of frames especially when they arnt doing extremely long endurance runs. Its way more chill than shield gating and you dont get one shot by toxin damage also.
An hour on SP Survival is a cake without it.
@@semtexagon on sp solo conjunction survival with 60% sped up enemies using novas molecular prime? Maybe idk.
@@AlvinEarthworm Because shield gating and vazarin dashing is way too sweaty for a lot of players
I think you forgot that primary frostbite adds crit multi not reload speed, but overall the conclusion stays the same, merciless is straight up better in most cases, frostbite could be better if you had other external sources of additive damage boosts and/or weapon has very good crit stats, or the funky cedo mesa build which uses her 1 to boost the damage of alt fire, and surpirisingly the bonus damage from it doesnt scale with additive damage but does with most other damage boosts including crit multi
Okay, yeah I completly missed that. In that case it is certainly worth using on a Chroma prime Build
@@semtexagon and Frost with augument
Your point on Arcane Blessing is such an ass. Level 4000 Bambard, oh yeah. Because 99% of the players will play survival mission for 12 hours :p
Not like we cannot build Voruna or Necros for Health Conversion. Let's go 1000% efficiency with builds almost no one can use or even build because:
1. People don't have time to farm arcanes,
2. Prices of Arcanes are ridiculous in some cases.
We can't have fun, we let's just bash DE with "it's shit". I'm sick of this mentality 😑
It's really difficult to take your opinion seriously when you clearly stopped watching halfway through the segment as I literally adresse 90% of your concerns immediately afterwards.
Also in terms of bashing DE. Just imagine I said: This an arcane. it gives you stats. 10/10. Copy-paste for each entry.
The new Blessing seems usable for a mid gamer. With panzer vulpaphyla I get a fair stream of health orbs.
Or you could just Vitality, and then slot in an useful arcane.
This. It's not endgame viable by any means but for newer or casual players who don't have the meta arcanes, it's super easy to farm and 1200 health is never a bad thing to have. I know because I'm one of those players so I'm quite happy that I can slap this on pretty much any frame rather than have an empty slot.
Theres 1 particular scenario where Arcane Blessing is good. You run Despoil Desecrate Nekros and Instead Energy Efficiency u use Equilibrium. That way u alaways gain 50 energy per kill and u can swap Arcane Energize that has like 12 sec delay.
3:35 Your argument is invalid you tank bombard with shield gating anyway.
First up: instead of wasting an entire arcane slot you can just use synth fiber (one mod) on your companion.
secondly: that's what I am saying: You need to have your shield gate active to not die at higher levels the amount of health you have under your shields is irrelevant.
Again this could stack up to 12k HP and it still wouldn’t matter
ye hp with no DR and without Heal Over Time is not enough. But thats 3 other mods. That i can agree on as a filthy casual.
The synth mod set is a decent way to spawn more health orbs if you're not running a frame like Nekros or Voruna. But even then Arcane Blessing is having to compete with other more useful arcanes for the slot. Not worth it.
You just need Synth fiber on your companion but yeah you right tho' any frame can easily stack this... Too bad it's so bad.
@@semtexagon Synth Deconstruct also spawns extra health orbs from enemies damaged by your companion. Works pretty well with the Panzer Vulpaphyla's spores.
I think arcane rise could still be useful on some eidolon builds. I could see myself running arcane rise and arcane momentum with the rubico prime.
The damage is additive tho'... you should use 'Vigorous Swap'
@@semtexagon why not both?
@@bradleytreinen I mean if the limb blows up when the click the button... why not save the arcane slot?
@@semtexagon I guess the real problem is I choose to play trinity instead of volt.
You overlooked the fact that Arcane blessing can be busted on a frame like hmmm oh I don`t know Voruna with her 3 with Equilibrium.
I actually mentioned that in both this and last video. And I genuinely don't know what you mean by busted. There is nothing busted about 1200 flat health.
If you are talking about being able to pick up health orbs without missing any health then just use synth fiber on your companion.
I like arcane rise, makes the Vectis just that much more usable in normal missions
Edit: I like the video, very well thought out, you have earned a subscribe
You know, everyone tends to orbit the meta while never actually playing it, due to personal preferences, this video is meant to deliver on these arcanes relevancy and overall potential and then let people decide if that fits their play style.
TL;DR: what you said.
Arcane blessing is good with varunas helminth ability, its a new mainstay for many of my builds
Arcane blessing doesn't gain anything from Voruna's 3rd ability. You are of course welcome to make it a mainstay, but statistically it's not a good arcane.
@@semtexagon actually it is a good arcane
Man, this vid has reminded me how nice it is to not bother with arcanes and just brute force everything
I mean, plz tell me you primary/secondary merciless. It's like 15 plat to more than double you're DPS.
I use deadhead mostly and epitaph with sevagoth for that extra headshot multi
Love your comments and interaction :P so "matter of fact" like.
You can't always get into it.
the frostbite one will see the most use in eidolon hunts seeing as it adds stuff based off status effect high so sc and high fire rate is gonna be used more
secondarys
Where are you gonna get the cold procs from?
actually no it wont
The only weapon I can forsee people using Primary Frostbite on is Lenz, but even then MErciless may still be better.
That being said, I see these arcanes only really being useable in the mid game before a person reaches Steel Path, as you can easily farm these arcanes before SP.
But... You still need a primary/secondary adapter, which you can only aquire with SE right?
fair assessment of the arcanes
very niche
and the warframe arcane slot is undervalued by these designs
My guess is that, because these are avalible before SP, they felt that they had to scale them back... but come on SP is around the bend if you have the Zarriman.
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i personaly run arcane blesing only on nekros and khora cat build
Why?
I have this but don’t know how to equip it
which one of them?
Arcane blessing is great for ivara to be fair
What... She is invisible.
@@semtexagon still status procs can mess up your day, the extra helps gives you some protection for it =)
@@semtexagon Being invisible is not the same as being invincible
@@highfighter219er5 It's quite close
@@semtexagon Sure until you get one shot due to dumb luck
The arcanes are just useless why not have them be something like Cascadia flare where yes its niche, but stronger than merciless or deadhead. I was really hoping to see something like that with frostbite, but sadly no.