Our First Upgrade!! MORryde Independent Suspension!!
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- Experience ultimate comfort and control on the road with the MORryde Independent Suspension system for the brand new Alliance Valor 44V14 Toy Hauler RV. In this video, we dive into the cutting-edge features and benefits of the MORryde suspension, showcasing how it revolutionizes your RV travel experience. Say goodbye to rough rides and hello to smooth travels as we explore how this innovative suspension system enhances stability, reduces vibrations, and ensures your precious cargo remains secure in the toy hauler. Join us to discover why the MORryde Independent Suspension is a game-changer for RV enthusiasts seeking unparalleled performance and luxury.
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We are Ryan & Lauren Miller, a husband & wife team from Fort Worth, Texas trying to balance our wanderlust and our roots. We sold our ranch and moved into an RV, and we are documenting our adventure. We hope our videos are both entertaining and informative, and that you’ll join our community. Experience-Create-Inspire!
We had MORryde IS installed on our Cyclone back in 2018 and we have never looked back! Excellent customer service and even greater product. We had our IS and alignment checked in 2022 and everything was still perfect. We have been fulltime since 2015. So many fellow fulltimers told us back in 2018 we were wasting our hard earned money on this upgrade and we would never recover what we spent. Let me tell you the peace of mind and the ride are worth every penny we spent for sure and today IS is more popular than ever! Great product!
Couldn’t agree more!! We only have had now for. Few weeks and already super happy we made the investment!
MORryde took such good care of us when we were there this June! Hayden was excellent to deal with and our system was beat up after 85,000 kms. IS is the only saviour when you're on the road putting on the miles! I really believed this was a great addition to our GD 399TH.
Love to hear it!!
Seems you guys were very lucky and Alliance must have pulled some strings to get you to MORryde so fast! We had our I.S. upgrade done in May, after making the reservation for the job back in 2021!!!!! They are so backed up all the time. Although we aren't full-time, and don't plan on it, just part timers, and our 5th wheel is half the weight of yours, we still felt it was $10,000 well spent dollars for the ride and longevity of our rig. In 2021 we spent the $14,000 for our solar package and we now primarily dry camp, so our investment has been paying off for us.
So in full discloser we have been planning this for some time now, plus we are MORryde Affiliates so that didn't hurt. We couldn't agree more with you , between IS and a good Solar System you can get a lot of things out of your RV you might not have been able to before!!
Always drive I-220 around Shreveport, LA and Bossier City, LA when you have your Camper with you unless you are wanting to go to the Casinos or to Bass Pro. Nicer road. Also, currently I-20 from the Red River (after the I-220 East exit) thru Bossier City (just after the I-220 West exit) is under construction. I drive a F-350 dually and will not drive through the construction because of how narrow the lanes are. Commercial vehicles are suppose to use I-220 but most do not and have paid the price for driving I-20 by getting stuck or flipping over during inclement weather. Notice of caution!!!
after running thru that area I will never not take 220 around!!!
I had MORryde installed at the factory when I order our DRV Elite Suites and had the Kodiak disc brakes. Never have had a single issue since it was new in 2012.
Awesome!!
We started F/T in 2015 and bought a Vanleigh/Vilano and upgraded the axles to 8k along with Disk. Wish now we would have done the IS instead. Have had axle issues 3 times. So in Aug. 2024 we will upgrade to the IS. Cant wait till we upgrade.
We did something smiler in our previous RV, so this was a no brainer for us!
Congratulations on the new Rig. It’s beautiful
Thank you!
Wow thanks for the video I’ve never seen or heard of this before and must say looks to be the best and I’m a huge advocate of upgrading suspension . I’ve done the equalizers,wet bolts and summo springs and am designing custom shock absorber brackets as well but that’s it. These are all relatively inexpensive and can be done at home . We are only seasonal weekend warriors at this point and don’t put a lot of miles on trailer so won’t be upgrading to IS but I clearly see it is the best thing out there I’m envious . I noticed not much footage of the instal ,and the Price I know if you have to ask it’s not for you.
Reducing or in your case eliminating the bounce is huge thanks for video now I know .
I really like this video and thought it was very well done. MORryde is a great company. One thing I would have liked to see in the video was the weight ratings on the IS models. Are there different ones depending on your rig? Which ones did you go with, if so, and why?
Sure! unfortunately every rig and install is a little different, we did the Triple Axle, 8K IS.
8k...So, 4k per wheel?
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Great interview... Almost studio quality... Very "Hotrod TV " format....good job keep it coming!!!!
Thank you!!
We need to get that on our Brinkley
It make a HUGE difference!
@@Millers_in_Motion love your videos!!
I am new to your cannel and loving so much been binge watching your videos all day. I my self have 3 dogs, of that are larger dogs and it's so nice learning the ins and outs from people who have that experience.
I was thinking of your mom and a previous video I watched of you wanting to take her traveling with you on some trips. I was wondering if you have heard of or looked into the Happijak system? the ( happijak bed lift System) essentially just like your slide outs move forward and back words, this lift can elevate the bed up to the ceiling when its not in use. and lower it to what ever level is most comfortable to your mother. I seen this bed system when I was horse showing and my friends removed their golf cart and lowered the bed so I had a bed to sleep on. its a really great system I think will benefit you guys a lot.
Thanks so much!! We have, it was one of the big reasons we ended up making the switch to our new Alliance Valor 44V14 Toy Hauler, so we could have a separate “office” maybe a toy or 2, but mainly a mother in law suite for Lauren’s mom!!
We just drove through Shreveport. OMG Roughest road in USA and I-10 is down to 1 NARROW lane. Damn I hate LA.
Yes…. We did it about 2 weeks ago, thank the lord for our IS!!
The safety aspect of electric over hydraulic vs all electric drum can be misunderstood. Electric drum brakes are more safety oriented than electric over hydraulic discharge brakes. Mainly because the hydraulic brakes have no check valve to prevent brake fluid loss from being isolated to a single wheel position like what you might see if a tire blow out occurs. Brake line is damaged or ripped away from the caliper and all brake fluid dumps from the Hydrastar master cylinder MorRyde uses. This means if you have a blow out with hydraulic brakes you also have a high potential to also lose all trailer brake function.
If this same scenario occurred on electric drum brakes the affected wheel position is isolated and the remaining wheels brakes will still function.
Something to consider before praising the upgrade to disc. It’s a real issue. I know this as I have MorRyde IS factory installed on 390RK and though I didn’t experience a blow out I had a caliper hose back off and leak out all fluid from the Hydrastar pump motor. Brakes were completely non functional. So to me the sums brakes albeit less overall braking ability is redundant when you really need it to be and hydraulic disc as used by RV manufacturers of fifth wheels are not. Maybe they will add a proportioning valve or one way check valve that prevents total fluid loss but at this time that is not the case. Something to consider!
So I agree and disagree, yes in emergency situations the drum brakes can defiantly give more. Now in your day to day driving I have ALOT more stopping power. We also have plans to be in the mountains and I’d rather have Disk over drum with some of the passes and grades coming down. Thanks for interacting! We always love hearing all sides!
So here's a huge dilemma we're running into. We are considering another brand of well-known toy hauler. It already has Dexter disc brakes but the CRE-3000 suspension.
I asked my dealer about having the MORryde I/S done to it after we purchased because it was very important to me. In fact, we already have an appointment with MORryde in February. After contacting the manufacturer and then talking to Lippert, Lippert stated anything welded to their existing frames VOIDS THE WARRANTY for their frame.
So now they are talking to the factory rep for the camper and although he claims the camper manufacturer will take care of me on any frame issues, I have yet to get it in writing. They are now in discussion on the specifics and what, if anything, will be put in writing. They know the entire sale of this camper is hinging on this decision.
That being said, as good as the MORryde I/S is, make sure it will not void your warranty. Lippert doesn't like people (even MORryde) grinding and welding on their frames.
So here's the kicker, anything that is added to a part of a RV that is deemed to have caused damage to another part voids the damaged parts warranty. Technically Grand Design adding the MORryde Pin Box to the can void a warranty, if and only if the MORryde pin box where to damage the frame. AS far as warranty chat with MORryde because they may warranty the frame if there part (IS) where to cause damage.
There are work arounds all over the place! One of the bad pars of the industry is what you experienced, companies just sit around and point the finger at each other...
@@Millers_in_Motion I am still waiting to hear from my dealer and the factory rep. I also emailed Hayden at MORryde yesterday. I welcome either response.
@jamesmclamb3682 Haden is awesome, I’m sure he will get back with your shortly!
Oh man that is nice👍🇺🇲
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My wife and I just found your channel and have now caught up! 4,000sft house listed and we will be going nomad with the dogs. We were looking into 390RK and now researching toy haulers based on your experiences! We also are liking the Alliance brand for the way to go.
How much was the IS upgrade?
Was it not available from Alliance?
We have a lot more questions about the journey that I hope you guys can answer in future posts.
Also, you have a typo in your name in video description, unless you use “Milkers” on the DL … we don’t judge!
Welcome!! This sounds a little too familiar! Do y'all have horses too?!?! We loved our 390RK the Toy Hauler just made SO much more since for us, and you can't beat Alliance, some of the best people in the RV industry work in that building! Please feel free to reach out and ask away, that's why we are here! So as far as the IS, it is a bit of a moving target I would tell you to email MORryde and they would be happy to get you current pricing an a time line as far as there appointments. Alliance does offer IS from factory but at the moment only on the Paradigm line (2 axles) they re working towards that on the Valors (3 axles). The 3 axle Verizon is a bit more complicated. Thanks for the typo heads up, Lauren normally gets to proof read my chaos!! As soon as we get moved in all the way we plan on filing more of a Tour Our Home Video, that way people can see how we live in it! Cheers!!
No horses, 8 kids!
Understood on pricing.
Alliance dealers are slim in SW Florida. Might reach out direct and hopefully find best model for us to get into. I have been impressed that the TH offers way more than it takes away for a certain style of living. Thanks for sharing your journey.
Sure! If you do reach out to MORryde tell them we sent you over! Thats why we loved the 44v14 some much, we did some MOD's pretty quick but wanted more floor space for the pups, so we went to a strip sofa, instead of the L shape, but I do feel this might be the most versatile floorpan!
We ordered our Alliance Paradigm 385FL in July 23, and we ordered the Moryde IS w/Disc Brakes and upgraded to 8K w/ 17.5 in H-rated tires. Our dealer didn't even know that IS was an option. So, basically, the IS was the first thing to be put on our trailer. It is already built, just waiting for the full body paint. we should see it around the 3rd week in Sept.
@@user-td4wt4sb6o Congrats!!! I'm sure your love it and the IS upgrade is WELL worth the Money!!!
Hey Ryan, this Drew. I have a question about the IS weight. I read that the IS weight is double from the stock Alliance suspension system. How does this affect the overall Rig weight? Does this affect cargo weight or just all to tow weight? Thank you and we are praying for Lauren's mom. See yall in Tampa.
Hey Drew! So it does affect your overall weight. I believe the IS adds about 150 to 200 lbs more to you overall weight. Now if you upgrade from the 7k axles to the 8K IS it will add to you GVWR. With that being said nothing can legally make you sticker GVWR weight go up (Laws and all) but for us we had plenty of cargo in our Valor with the stickers GVWR we just wanted to know that we where beyond solid in the running gear! Plus the ride is 1,000% better than anything we have ever towed before!!
Great video on the Morryde IS with disc brakes. What are your thoughts on a IS with a GenY fifth wheel hitch setup vs the Morryde pin box? We scheduled to get the IS installed in December also driving up from Texas.
So we had them install the rubber pin box and are going to stick with it. I like the idea of the gen y, we use one for a bit and it made the trailer feel a little disconnected and bouncy. I didn’t love it so we stuck with the rubber pin box!
When changing over a new RV to Independent Suspension do you get a credit for the original suspension?
You don’t if you do it aftermarket, now if your doing IS from the factory that is the case. Alliance offers IS from the factory on custom orders. Not sure what other manufacturers offer that as an upgrade.
What did this all cost you, out of curiosity. We also have a triple axle.
So we did the IS plus Disk Breaks and I believe it is around 10K at the moment. If you email sales@morryde.com they can give you an exact number!
million dollar question, WHY was this NOT an option from the start, your UPGRADE should have been done at stage 1. To me it changes the base framing and you are not getting the best or complete system. There are STILL problems THINKING this will make a 5th wheel or long trailer an OFF ROAD ready.
So IS is an option at Alliance from the start, but because we work with MORryde we wanted to go over there nd film the process, thats kinda why we did it this way.
Oh also, there I no difference in the IS systems that are installed at the OEM factory or at MORryde direct. The only difference is who is installing it, another advantage to doing it at MORryde is that the engineers are right there to help with any issues that may arise in the install process!
@@Millers_in_Motion I understand that kind of, but for the average joe-blow like me and a million others to go get updates and changes to better this or that, right after we paid a buttload for the new rig that same day in most cases not a reality. Those things should have been included,
I wish that these companies would offer their standard and popular models with an option for the average RVer to pick out what is put in just for them.
I have a Thor 20TB toy hauler that had a blowout the cheap plastic wheel well could not stop both tires from taking out just about half the park side. 8 months ago I started to fix the stuff torn up. After the third friend suggested we either take it down to frame and build it our way, not staples, real storage, opened floor to the sweet spot that the toy is balanced.
Wiring, plumbing, and other routing will be done with purpose labeled, neat, and clean with raceways dedicated to future updates without reinventing the wheel.
Are you carrying a toy? How do you deal with the weight or no weight when it is not there.
It would be great if we could slide the tandem to a better location as needed. Semi-trailers can do it.
SO at the end of the day you will end up paying about the same amount of your RV with IS if it came from the factory that way or you have it installed (the labor ends up being about the same)
So we dont cary much of a toy, we just have E-Bikes and a rather large for RVing smoker. We had a tradition 5th wheel before this, and because we struggled to stay under GVWR (as well as a bunch of other things) we wanted to switch out to a Toy Hauler for the added weight tolerances. Plus we are able to use the TH space as my office and I can close the door so Lauren donuts have to hear me on work calls!
Just curious of the cost.
It's a very loaded question, at the moment a triple axle with disk break upgrade was around 9K, but please take that with a grain of salt. For the most current pricing shoo them a email at sales@morryde.com
So thats not the bolt on IS from Moryde? Whats your height now that they added 2"?
It is the bolt on, the sparks you saw on the video where from addition piece, they had to add on, in addition to the system to make it fit our specific floor plan. So at the end of the day it only added about an inch so we are at 13 feet, 7 inches and it should squat a little as we loaded the RV. we took it to Morey straight from alliance and didn’t have anything loaded except for some clothes
@Millers_in_Motion 13'7"..ouch...Definitely need a good gps to avoid the 13'6" low overpasses...Do you recommend any specific solar upgrades for dry camping and roof upgrades like flex armor or rv armor?
@@Kevin-midmichigan So for solar look at Big Beard Battires (www.bigbeardbatteries.com) it’s Todd Henson’s company from the NRVTA and RV Unplugged that’s who did our install on our solitude, and we’re designing a few new things that we’re going to put on our valor here pretty pretty soon! Let’s just say this big girl is going to spend a lot of time Boondocking!
@@Kevin-midmichigan as far as GPS, we use the Garmin RV 895, it does allow you to put in your height weights lengths all that good stuff and we’ve never had an issue with it. We do also use RV Life to route plan, and then we just plug the waypoint into the trip planner in the Garmin.
@@Kevin-midmichigan sorry I know that was a lot, if you go to our website www.millersinmotion.com we have a bunch of other information over there
How often do you need to take it to get a re-alignment?
12,000 miles or 1 year
You don't need to realignment every year just watch the tire ware if it ware bad then you do the alignment.
May not need to realignment but you do still need to inspect breaks and equipment wear, plus you still have to grease some components.
Did the independent suspension change your rig height?
So yes but here is the ** because of our particular floorpan they had to add a 2 inch bar to make it work so we were raised 2 inches. Most RV's height wont increase after the install
@@Millers_in_Motion Thanks for the thorough explanation
Just make sure they do a proper alignment. It will quickly destroy your tires if not properly aligned. Also, nobody tells you how expensive it is for an alignment, or how difficult it is to find a qualified shop.
I would never get Independent Suspension again.
They went over it all with us, and we plan on just taking it back to MORryde for the yearly maintenance! Sorry you had a bad experience but we have LOVED it and wish we would have done it sooner!!
We were able to put IS on our Alliance as an option when we ordered this summer. Was this not an option for your Valor?
@dpsuperw Not yet for the triple axles! But there getting on that!
You wrong if you say to don't do IS again.IS is a very good system.You right not to many shops can do the alignment .I find it myself after 2 shops mess it up.I end up go to Morryde to do it.
Who would wanna keep drum brakes? it should be called dumb brakes!
They have there place, but Disk is a HUGE upgrade!
When you say ''boondocking'' do you mean not a park but land middle of nowhere without RV services?
But if you are talking about going ''off-road'' you are trying to get to places that will force one wheel to be inches or foot off the ground then you are fooling yourself.
There is nothing MorRyde or anyone can make that will let the beast go BaJa without twisting or breaking the frame.
On another subject, and more important, drivers who make comments on video while driving at any speed on public roads are just dangerous and frankly unprofessional.
You are not by far the only one, it was just after I finished watching a great documentary about this subject. It is a collection of people who like yourself, myself, and many others think that nothing could happen it was just for a ''second'' that you looked away.
I didn't add up the ''seconds'' you looked away I will let you do that, hint TOO MANY.
'In a Blink of an eye, your life and possible others could change forever!
I love your videos and I want to keep watching for years to come, but I can wait till you are safely parked.
Safe Travels.
So when we say "Boondocking" it is definitely way more about services available not taking this thing off roading!! As far as videoing when driving, I hear you, our mount broke earlier this day that holds the camera, but it's back in action. Plus most times Lauren is with me to film and make comments! We appreciate the support!!
@@Millers_in_Motion i remember the day that there was one phone, attached to the wall in the kitchen and you would get home see who called and call them back, I hope you might when you aren't drivng take time to watch the documentary it is not long. stay safe