Honda 500X Owner rides KTM 390 Adventure | 390 vs 500x Off Road Review | 2021 Oregon Motorcycle
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- The video you all have been waiting for,... I finally ride the KTM 390 Adventure, off road, on a closed circuit against its best competition, the Honda CB500X.
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The main difference I've seen in reviews of people who rate the KTM off-road and those who say its not good is the pace and confidence the rider has with it. The KTM seems most happy with its pushed up in revs and really thrown into corners etc...if you don't it'll stall/slip/feel uncomfortable compared to other bikes in the class which still feels good when you take it easy (like the Himalayan or a Suzuki/Kawi dual sport). It's a tricky thing, as its marketed as a beginner bike, but from what I've seen I think it's best suited to an intermediate+ rider, at least if you're taking it off-road.
Couldn't agree more. This bike loves revs which kinda feels intimidating for new riders off road. The bike chassis was derived from ktm 450 which says a lot about how it behaves.
I think you are making an interesting point. I'm a KTM390ADV owner and a low intermediate offroad rider. My initial reaction to owning it was the 390 was more confidence-inspiring than the DRZ400 I had previously, yet I really don't wring it out and have indeed stalled it out at inopportune times. My takeaway from your comment (and after watching the video) is to use this bike a bit more aggressively than I'm used to. The bike can do it; I need to catch up skill-wise to what it can do.
Your excitement riding the 390 is exactly how I felt when I rode one for the first time yesterday.
A mix of on/off road sections and that little puppy just blew me away.
I come from a lot bigger bikes and I was very surprised how good of a package it is.
Holding this 230lbs 6 footer is no easy task for any suspension.
Thanks for doing this and comparing it to the Honda 🍻🍻
Shalom from Israel 🇮🇱
Awesome!
Thank you.
Turn that goofy music off so we could have heard those motors revving! Every person who rides these bikes knows that we love an exhaust note over any type of 🎶🎵🎶
interesting to see a direct comparison between these two bikes, since they're both marketed as 'lightweigt advs'. In reality though, the bikes' natures are quite different. One's a buzzier single that looks like it can be pushed quite hard on singletrack, the other is a bit more lumbering, but arguably better over longer distances on the road. Both bikes are compromised. I own a 2016 CB 500 x (17 inch rims) and I wouldn't dream of ripping it around these trails at the speeds shown. As a lightweight tourer, though, it's an excellent bike for the outlay, and can tackle fire roads and easy trails when the mood takes you. The Rally Raid mods make the CB a much better prospect off road, but you're talking close to £2K+ for suspension, spoked rims, switchable ABS etc, so the initial buying price starts to look less of a bargain. Add bars, guards, tyres, engine protection etc.and you're in the realms of a good used Tenere 700, which would knock spots of both bikes. This is why making direct comparisons between bikes is fraught. It really does come down to the rider, in terms of expectations, preferred riding style and capability. Honda have 'upgraded' the front suspension for 2022, but I suspect it'll still be a handful off road, at a reasonably spirited pace. Now If they put the X's parallel twin in the KTM frame, you'd have a really nice well rounded lightweight adv :) Maybe the new Tuareg 660 will set the benchmark, although it's significantly more expensive than both the bikes reviewed here...CCM also promised a 650 version of the GP, but got sidetracked with their Spitfire range. This was a pity as the GP450 was an absolute unicorn on paper, that suffered from a poor choice of available engines, IMO At the end of the day, we can't expect a budget all rounder to tour like a Goldwing, carve like an R6, rip trails like a 450 SF X and run all week on a teaspoon of fuel like a Honda Activia (162mpg!)....which is all the more reason to own lots of different bikes :)
Interesting comparison 🤔speaking as an owner of a 2020 500x with Rally-raid upgrades, including the level 2 suspension system. I agree that out of the box the ktm is a better bike off road, however I don't think it is after the RR upgrades that I have done🤔 being able to turn off the rear ABS is a big advantage for the ktm, but I personally think the traction control on such low CC engines is totally not needed. I nearly went for the 390 when I bought mine but ktm's reliability put me off🤔i still love my cb500x for the great all rounder that it really is😃i love your vids, but please do yourself a favour & get yourself a good engine guard for your bike, I have substantial dents in mine from big rock hits, if I didn't have it my engine casing would be cracked😬 just my observation bud😉
I'm in the UK 🇬🇧 and bought the 390 love it
Great video. That 390 was fun to ride. Surprising for a single how much it prefers to be ridden in the high rpms.
Great video and impressions. You can do quite a lot with the 390.
I’ve been binge watching your videos. This is the second time that I’ve watch this. If you had a choice between the CBX and the KTM now, which would you choose?
The KTM Adv390 is an excellent second bike. I have a cruiser for asphalt and longer rides, but the 390 just wants to play. The light weight and high-end on the engine makes it a blast offroad.
FINALLY!!!!! a video that truly assesses the bike in the trail conditions i’m looking for…real guys riding real trails!!!
52 year old guy, realizing motocross is in his past and looking to hop into the adventure riding arena…your time and efforts helped me make my decision…. THANK YOU👍
Ha ha. Thanks!
I try and keep it real;)
Just got back from my first ride on the street. The CB500X was the perfect bike to start on. Thanks again for the recommendation.
Sweet! It’s a day you will never forget;)
Congrats!
As a cb500x owner I got to give it to that KTM! It looks extremely impressive offroad. You're also a VERY good Rider & seems like you know that terrain pretty well 💯 I do mostly Street riding and I really do like the 500 but I'm glad more manufacturers make motorcycles in the class
I probably subscribed to your channel over a year ago ..because I was interested in the cb500 and you have some really great content.. we moved to Georgia 🇺🇲after my retirement in New York.. I had a Yamaha 650 cruiser in New York.. and have never done adventure riding. I was getting ready to pull the trigger on the CB.. but then I started watching videos on the 390.. aside from the good things I've seen on the 390... It's the price point that sells me.. it has the hand guards the crash bars the 12 volt outlet ,Great electronics.. for at least $700 less than the CB with none of that equipment 🤷 but the big problem is because of covid my local dealer has been out of stock on the 390 for over a year and probably won't get them until after January 😢 I know you've had the CB for quite some time and for you to give the 390 a glowing review.. just makes my final decision that much easier.. thanks 🤗
The KTM is a rad bike. Awesome package for the price.
This is a great test you did. I have mate that has both and he said the same things.
Crazy to think how much more capable a "street" bike is now than they used to be
Love the channel love how u ride it like u stole it. Not to many channels that ride the cb500x as hard as u do.
In your honest opinion, I own exactly a CB500X, just like yours, even in color abd I love it! I drive 70/30 on/0ff road, but I want to use it more on a 50/50 stile. Would you change write now your CB500X, for the KTM 390 Adv?
What about a comparison with the 2022 CB500X?
Can you straighten up the foot pegs on the KTM? I've read about them being angled downwards and how that can be uncomfortable off road.
Great video. Would like to see what your thoughts are on the 390a on twisties and corners.
Me too;)
It’s rails in corners. Meaning excellent handling and confidence inspiring to ride aggressively at full lean Easy to change lines mid corner due to light weight. cornering abs for those deer🦌 ! The one I tested was fun but just needs a lot to setup properly for off-road. Build quality is worse than my 14 1190 though. Debating on getting cheap 390 or waiting for 490 r
I know it's been like 2 years, but one thing to really consider is the 100lb of weight difference between them, besides the obviously better shocks on the 390, that makes a world of difference going off road, the 390 is shorter, narrower and much lighter, it's an overall better machine for off road than the CB500X, the tires make or break the experience though, and you have some bad ass tyres on them.
What exhaust are you running on the Honda?
Figured they just upgraded the suspension on the 2022 cb500x....
having had a 401 and now have a honda cb500x the cb is a totally different bike.
will last a 100k .
the finishing kit on a ktm and 401 is far more direct use for off raod and little b roads and is a solid platform.
After that it's lost if you had bigger bikes and no power on big roads very lumpy under 4k rpm.
just a difficult bike .
they both are lovely in there own way.
Nice comparison, though I’d guessed the outcome. I love my ‘18 X, but that would fare even worse in any off road comparison with its 17” front! I do have a question, what muffler is that on your X? I can’t find a video on it, if you’ve made one!
Ask and you will receive;)
th-cam.com/video/rRZE5qQ9GPg/w-d-xo.html
If you take the 500x off road I recommend removing the fuse that controls the abs so you can lock the wheels. its a bit primitive but works well, just remember to put it back in when you return to the street
What helmet comms are you guys using?
Loving your videos. I've got a cb500x on order that is taking ages to get here. I'd love to know your opinion on the abs and whether or not you know of any mods to make the abs switchable at least at the rear would make steep loose downhills safer. Might make for a good video if it's possible.
I can’t figure a way out to separate them. You could pull the fuse, but that would kill the front too.
@@OregonMotorcycle I reckon 99% of the time I wouldn't need to switch the abs off but even if both get switched off at the same time it could be beneficial.
@@swampymarsh7214 true. You can easily run a switch to the fuse and it should work on the fly.
@@OregonMotorcycle can't seem to find much info about it but once I get my bike I'll look into it. It's bloody hard to get bikes in Australia right now. Second hand sellers are charging a premium. Might as well get new. There's delays from honda apparently though 😒
I totally agree, however the 500x can be "offroad'ed" a bit more. I did change the footpegs for the sw motech evo ones (totally recommended as you can lower them 1.5 cms) and a handlebar riser. It´s deffo a street bike with off road capabilities. Anyways am going for an Africa Twin in about one year or so :P
Da real thing !
What bar setup is on the 390
Great video 👍
what mirrors are those?
Compare the 2022 cb500c please
Lol, Ironically I just rode my CB500X to So Cal from Northern NV and was wishing for the goldwing too.
Is that because a Goldwing is that good or because the CB500X is that bad? I'm looking at getting a X and doing cross country but wanted something that can do some trails and get me to camp-sites along the way.
@@Jimsimi The CB500X is about as good as you can get for the price, weight, and features. I would absolutely recommend it for touring but if touring is all your going to do, get a gold wing.
how about reliability?
I've been thinking about getting the Rally Raid suspension kit. It's not all that much but I'm not sure how it'll affect the bike on the road
Take that money and go buy another bike like a dual sport.
If you are out riding the suspension on this bike, it’s time for a new bike.
@@OregonMotorcyclewrong 😫. Nothing wrong with spending $1000 to make a great bike even better. I done it with my 300 L Honda and I’m still thousands cheaper than a KTM dual sport. A lot of the times you’re buying these bikes they’re cheaper because they just don’t have it all the fixings on them. You’re not gonna get another dual sport for $1000.
Gidday, do you happen to know what risers and pegs are on the 390? Cheers
I don’t. Go to “PNWADVMOTO” on TH-cam and ask him;)
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Great video!!! Could you give us some info about the handlebars on the 390? Also about the risers? Thank you :))
It's got protaper evo adventure bars with some generic amazon KTM clamps that are 1-1/8th so the bars fit. 22mm risers
So which is better on the street touring and reliability and service centers parts available in US?
I would like to know the same thing.
Honda is Honda!!
I see mixed opinions and comments .. I am planning to buy either cb500x or KTM 390 adventure SW. Which ones best?
All Road = The new Nx500, most offRoad = the 390 SW, but have you Seen the Cfmoto 450mt yet 🤷🏼♂️ would be a choice between 👍🏻😎🥳
Many people make their decision based on what a guy on youtube says, at least your planning to use it for this type of off road you need a ktm, if no you can either buy the cb500x or any other bike, as simple as that
That was awesome
Thanks man! 👊
Not a real comparrison. KLM cost alot more. But your comments about each are very usefull. Thx
Those poor fog lights on the Honda are taking a beating mounted to the wheel lol
Best upgrade I’ve done. Over 20k miles on them and there still fine.
So, I am curious. Would you change to the 390, or add it to your inventory?
No. They are too close. I’d add a sport bike or 🤷♂️🤔
I had a 390, then a C125 - next bike will be the 500X :)
You riding the 500x on stock tyres??
Trailmax Mission tires
@@OregonMotorcycle First time I've heard of those tyres. They seem to be exactly what I'm looking for, mainly road riding with off-road capability
@@OregonMotorcycle Do they have a rear size for the 500x? I cant seem to find 160/60/17 listed. What you got on there?
@@iz723 I run a 150.
The complement about the pegs… must have aftermarket pegs
So, what would be better if you mostly doing freeway commute? I'm a new rider whosl wants to keep the bike for a long time.
Honda.
Ps Suzuki bring back the ts 400 two stroke from 1977 the real off road dual sport motorcycle
If you ar a smal person like me… 167cm 💪💪💪 what is best… the Honda or the ktm…
KTMs have tall ass seats so I’d go with the Honda
Seems like a faily limited test just riding it around that one track ? I'm a honda rider and I bought the 390 Duke and it was a real POS. Stiff, uncomfortable, sudden rev limiter that kicked in every gear and made wheel standing dangerous, really lurchy in slow riding. Maybe the ADV is a bit better, but same DNA. It really only works 6-10k rpm which is where you rode it, if you'd been a touch more aggressive you'd have hit the limiter in every gear. Given the type of track I'm guessing whatever bike had the smaller displacement is going seem better.
I prefer the design ok the ktm: more recent, sport. The honda seems an old bike and i bike for old people.
ABOUT TIME, i see some views :)
Yeah!
WOW I didn't know you could ride like that offroad with a CB500X, I should start to try like that with mine
Just send it❗️
Two types of people. People who didn’t know about the 390 when they bought their bike. And people who did know but are dumb and still didn’t buy it.
Ripping with street tires lol
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the diffenence is in 20 yrs the Honda will still be running
Ktm 20 kgs lighter
Ask your buddy how much fun it is to do an oil change on the KTM. Not to mention the parts cost. You have to buy a damn kit...lmao. It's worse than a Ducati.
The Honda is more of a touring machine. Revs lower. Higher to speed. Greater range. A few cheap tweaks to the front suspension will help it a lot.
Now.... Compare it to the BMW 310GS.
What are you talking about? You buy some oil and a filter and change it. Clean out the screens and ride on. Only way it could get simpler is not having a filter.
@@shortbusdog agreed. I had a 390 - best tip I can give is use a magnet to remove the oil filter, and remove all the standard two part bash guard:)
Ducati is a wet sump: Undo bolt, drain, undo filter, replace and fill with oil. What's your problem with it?
390 has to be the ugliest adventure bike.