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I have seen all of these, David Paulides has a million ripped videos about these same disappearances posted all over so it's hard to avoid. Great video and respectively done I just think most people have heard of ALL of these by now.
Hi guys, Simon here. It’s been rightly pointed out that the segment in relation to Jaryd Atadero is factually inaccurate. His father was not with him at the time, but had allowed him to go off with a Christian group. This is a really basic error, and I can only apologise for any upset or issue it has caused. It’s in no way deliberate. I go through a lot of source material in order to write each episode, and sometimes my fact-checking isn’t up to scratch. This isn’t on Rich or Mikey, it’s on me. And I apologise. I’ll try my hardest to ensure no further mistakes get made, and I take heart in the thought that by highlighting Jaryd’s case, it may get revisited by the authorities at a future point.....
I noticed that too and these things can happen. You do an incredible job with your research and the Missing 411 topic has so much information to sift through. Clearly that was not an intentional mistake... live and learn. Thanks for all you do.
I don't think it will get revisited by authorities unless they find new evidence. the explanation that makes most sense to me is that he was killed by a mountain lion, and carried off, but the lion got spooked and left his corpse where it was later found after other animals had had there way with it.
@@marhawkman303 Thats a realistic hypothesis but it seems reasonable that the searchers and sniffer dogs would have found at least a drop or two of blood, if not more if a mountain lion had attacked. 🤔
Doesnt matter, still a great video with some of the best narration and images on TH-cam. Love the work you guys do, and the fact you comment about the mistake and own up to it shows how much respect you have for your viewers.
Thanks for correcting it. We still have faith in your work and I know you work hard to get things right, it happens to the best of us. Keep your head up
I grew up on a farm located in over 30,000 acres of woods and I can say they can definitely change on you in moments. Things that are familiar one day seem different the next. The atmosphere can be peaceful one minute then tense the next. That prevailing feeling that something's out there can become intensely strong. And the uncanny sense that your being closely followed by something/someone you can sense but not see is the most disturbing experience.
Those feelings are bizarre, the feelings of being watched and suddenly becoming incredibly unsettled and unnerved. I've had them walking in bright open fields where I can see all around me, in woods, when it's dark and you can't see out of your windows, even just sitting in my room with the blinds down and lights on. I wonder what causes it
If you think about it though, those feelings are just your primal instincts kicking in. That feeling of being self aware and fear of the unknown is your mind preparing you to expect the unexpected
@@kaiishere016 I know that when you get a sudden chill out of nowhere, it's because a spirit or entity is looking at you. And when you see a friend or relative in your dreams, it means they are thinking about you.
@@Packsuperbowl it's not the getting lost that's creepy. It's the never being seen again, or remains being found in places that were searched multiple times. It's just the strangeness of it
@@Packsuperbowl these people are not getting lost, you obviously haven't heard or read about all the MISSING411 cases to say that these people are just getting lost.
I doubt he ever made it to the woods. I don't believe in magic, so it seems likely that McSherry guy had something to do with this "disappearance." He's the only person who "saw" the old guy. Oh, plus he had a car. What was the point of flagging down another vehicle? This would also explain why the sniffer dogs never found anything to sniff. It wasn't some supernatural force. It was likely that there was just nothing there for them to sniff.
@@Sierra-208 That's not a matter of competency. It's a matter of coverup or discarding the case. I'd have to go back and listen again, but it makes me wonder about child molestation, with police covering for someone associated with them.
In Jaryd’s case, the father wasn’t with him on the hike. He was back at home (I believe he owned either a shop or Airbnb) while a church group had taken Jaryd on a hike without telling the father exactly where they were going. His father was under the impression that they were going to a fish hatchery but instead they went to Big South Trail
Right I don’t know how he could have messed up those details so badly if he’s going to narrate these sad cases at least have the respect to get the facts right for the family I heard the dads voice in a interview the guy is still really messed up about his son. . . I wonder about those 2 fisherman if they were further interviewed cause they were the last to see him alive and it’s kinda weird they just let a little kid wonder off down the trail by himself I would have at least followed him till I made sure he got back to his parents or guardians. Suspicious if u ask me.
Jaryd Atadero. They found his skull cap and one tooth on a log above a ridge line, as well as a sneaker I believe. This was two men by accident a couple years later. It was a church group, who were incredibly stupid to let such a young boy move on ahead alone. He was actually seen by two fishermen, whom he asked if there were bears. Incredibly, the fishermen let him go on alone also
Another perfect example of the missing 411 can be traced to 1914 with the disappearance of Cathline Simpson on Hudson Bay Mountain near Smithers BC. She was the 24 year old wife of Hunter Simpson, a local prospector how had a mine above their ranch on Hudson Bay Mountain, and one evening in January her husband did not return from work. Fearing for his safety, Cathline had someone at the ranch ride to the nearby camp at Jennings for help while she saddled her horse and vanished into the night. The search party sent to help Hunter Simpson discovered him burned and injured half way down the trail from the mine, and after helping him, asked where his wife was. She had truely vanished, her horses tracks ended 3 quarters of the way up the trail to the mine, with no sign of struggle or foul play. Native hunters and a massive search party looked for 10 days, but found no trace of Cathline. Cathline was a hardened outdoors woman, well trained in dealing with the bitter winter and predators of the region. To this day nothing of her or her horse has ever been found.
Horse spooked. Horses have to be trained to go out at night because they are natural prey animals, the slightest sound they can't identify will send them careening through the trees and off a cliff, I doubt they searched every square meter of that mountain back in those days in the middle of winter
I watched one of the Missing 411 videos recently and they mentioned the three missing people at the Donnell Vista Point in California. This area is pretty close to me and I remember seeing missing persons posters there a few years back. They implied that a serial killer or something stalks the area, but realistically that spot is extremely dangerous to hike off the trail. It features a sheer cliff and lots of crevices to slip into. Same thing with a lot of the Sierra Nevada mountains in that area. The main thing you should always do when out in the mountains or woods is keep your wits about yourself and remain situationally aware. Don't assume that since it's called a national forest or park that it's like a city park or theme park. You can loose your life to a simple screw up not far from the road. A twisted ankle, a concussion, or simply dressing unprepared and getting caught in bad weather.
Not to mention let someone know where you’ll be, that way if you don’t check in at a specific set time they can start the search immediately instead of wasting critical hours.
"Investigators were struck by how pristine the clothing was...even though the items had been exposed to the elements for over four years." The logical answer here is the clothing was NOT "exposed to the elements for four years." It was probably placed where it was found several years after Jaryd Atadero disappeared, i.e., shortly before investigators found it there.
Right and it was just the biggest coincidence in the world that the clothing was children sized and exactly what he had been wearing AND nobody bothered making sure there was no one else around.
Ok. Why? Why bring the clothes back years later, turn them inside out, fold them neatly and leave them there to be found? What motive would a serial killer, bigfoot or alien have to do that? The most plausible one of those (serial killer) would have the least motive, as he's exposing himself to donate evidence to the authorities that could lead them back to him. It defies logic. I highly doubt this folded clothes stuff happened as reported. As for *missing* clothes, I've seen paradoxical undressing in real life. That actually happens.
@@df0016 >"What motive would a serial killer, bigfoot or alien have to do that?" A serial killer or humanoid creature like bigfoot wouldn't have any logical motive. An alien wouldn't have any comprehensible motive. What disturbs me is the notion that what causes this sort of tragedy to happen never had any sort of motive at all.
There's something in the Woods: IDC, I go camping sometimes. There's something in the desert: IDC. I go mountain biking sometimes. There's something in the water: Nope. I hate water. Next he'll make "There's something in the city".
I think he might have had a close one some time ago, he said he was with another guy deep in the woods when everything went deathly quiet, they stood back to back with guns drawn until sometime later the usual woodland sounds returned (I think that was on a coast to coast interview with George Knapp over ten years ago)
"The 411 phenomenon is not restricted to North America..." me: don't say Australia, don't say Australia, don't say Austr "...the snowy mountains" me: NO
the thing about Australia is you can walk out your back door get attacked by willdabeast bit by a snake and ate by a croc. No one would probably bat an eye.
@crazy silly listen I was high af when I wrote this😂 but now that I think about I really don't know the difference (as far as animals go) between Africa and Australia. I'm about to go look up alot of shit.
@crazy silly They were introduced and are feral wild species here now too, mostly in Queensland. It's that or "Water Buffelo" but it's basically the same outcome, they are large aggressive bovines.
@Fabian Sosa I'd wager its more likely that their method of getting out of the house is to go camping and hiking. Just because the thing has a trail doesn't mean you can't die on it. I nearly slid on some ice hidden under snow when hiking over Mt. Potosi as a kid. If I had? It was a long way down to regret it, assuming I didn't get caught on one of the twisted trees growing on the sides or something. (The Scout Master behind me caught me by my backpack and held me fast) But that's not *new* either. Its dangerous to cross a street in a city too. Situational awareness is pretty much always the solution. Its just hard to have that while running or daydreaming and both those things tend to happen on trails a lot.
I'm nature devoted, and I love hiking and camping (especially alone and in total silence) ... these videos though, make me triple think whether it´s worth the risk.
It's worth it, so long as you treat the wilderness with respect. I don't mean that in a New Agey way, just, don't underestimate nature, expect the unexpected and don't go out unprepared. Bad things can happen, but bad things can happen anywhere. You can be sitting in your house and a tornado could hit it, or you can be on the road and get t-boned, or you can get mugged two blocks from your house. Life is never 100% safe. But people can go out into the wilderness, and as long as they're careful it's usually perfectly fine. It's only likely to turn out badly if you go out unprepared, not knowing what you're doing, and aren't careful.
It's totally worth it. Most of these incidents boil down to lack of preparedness, overestimating one's capabiities, or sheer stupidity. As long as you're careful and realistic about your own limitations, you'll likely be fine. You're more in danger of being in a car accident or getting assaulted on a city street than you are of going missing in the wilderness. Enjoy your solitude!
Ugh the 411 cases are so creepy. I used to live in the national forest in Washington off highway 101. Those woods are old, beautiful and when it's suddenly silent, chilling.
@@jo-annfat-bricks2471 I guess you're not taking your medication again otherwise you wouldn't say something so disrespectful and crazy. Many of us lost loved ones to the virus. Shame on you!
@@jo-annfat-bricks2471 I wouldn't say it was completely a hoax, but flus, colds, viral infections have all killed people and some of them have many more so than COV19. At the end of the day, it is one of many viral infections. We have this awesome system in our bodies called immunity and the wisest thing to do these days is guard it, protect it, nurture it with the right foods, and treat it like gold!
I can tell you from personal experience that unexplained things exist outside of what our minds can comprehend! I’m from Philadelphia and lived within close proximity of what used to be the Byberry mental institution. I never went there out of unease until my late teens. I had went there a few times, during the night with a group of about ten people each time. There were about 6 or 7 buildings left from the 15 to 20 that originally existed for decades and they were abandoned for my entire life up until the time I first went there. Now keep this in mind when I tell my story because up until that point it had been abandoned for about 25yrs. PA also has a large culture of urban explorers that live to take souvenirs pertaining to the places they explore. Keeping that in mind and with the amount of time Byberry laid abandoned, there wouldn’t have been any reason for me to find what I found that started my terrifying experience! So, going there the few times I did with friends I quickly realized that the noises people attributed to ghosts and such were noises from other floors and close buildings because you were probably one of about ten other groups of people on different floors and other buildings in close proximity, especially on the weekends as it was a very popular place to graffiti, set fires and break windows. So I had been there about 4 times all at night and a few weeks after that last nighttime excursion there was plans to have a kegger, during the day, in the auditorium. So I went by myself to meet up for this kegger. I had to go in through the far side of the main building to bypass security and Philly PD. Halfway through I slipped on some ice and almost smashed my head on a jagged piece of metal jutting from the wall so I was already feeling uneasy about the whole situation. So I exited the main building and came up on the janitors/ mechanical building which was one floor and four rooms deep with entry doors on either side like a switch back. I entered the first room, still feeling pretty adventurous and noted nothing out of the ordinary. I then enetered the second room which had lockers on both sides and came across an open locker. Sitting on the shelf, in plain sight and perfectly in the middle was a name tag of someone who had worked there in the past. Now this name tags existence and placement should not have been possible at all as that was definitely a souvenir that would’ve disappeared decades before due to it being tied to an actual person that worked in the hospital. Well I picked it up and as quickly as I did everything went dead silent... like way too awkwardly silent! Standing in the deafening silence, I heard a noise in one of the two last rooms which were just about completely dark save for the light in the doorway. I thought at first that the noise I heard was most likely a cat, raccoon or possum due to the area surrounding the place being heavily wooded. As I put the name tag in my pocket and began to walk closer to that last door the noise started to grow. I quickly decided to leave and as I walking out the noise grew to an almost roar! It sounded like at least 30 people were beginning to run from those last rooms and as I got into the first room it sounded like the lockers were crashing to the floor in the room I had previously been in. By this point I was absolutely terrified and broke into a sprint and the moment I exited the building every single bit of noise ceased completely! I stopped and looked into the building from about 4 or 5 ft away and saw absolutely nothing and heard nothing! Well after that I walked over to the auditorium and peaked my head in, saw nobody was there and immediately left. I got home that day and put the name tag in my desk drawer and forgot about it. I was also invited a few times to go back... I never went back! Well to end this story, the state started to demolish the remaining buildings a few months later and I went to check on the name tag in my drawer to show a friend and it vanished... no evidence of me ever having it... only my recollection of it exists! That was about 20 yrs ago and since then I’ve only told this story 10 to 15 times at the very most and every single time I tell, even now, my blood runs ice cold and I get a horrible feeling of unease in my soul! So you can either believe me or not, it’s up to you, but I could care less if you do or don’t because that fear of death will never leave me and I will always wholeheartedly believe that there is something else out there! Just to reiterate... I NEVER went back!
I’m from Sydney and I went a solo road trip heading to Melbourne. I ended up in the Snowy River Mountains and had an extremely bizarre experience. I was driving through the long and winding roads when I saw a headless horse on the side of the road. The next bend around the corner I saw a snake that stretched from one side of the road to the other side. A very weird and strange feeling came over me and I started to get anxious. I was lost at this point too. Then as I came around the next corner I saw a black or dark brown wallaby with its back to me and as it turned around to look at me it was as if it was in slow motion and it’s face was my face but as an old man. I was in my 20s. Everything became dream like and I started to speed faster to get the hell out of this strange place. I lost control driving around the next bend and slid out, the car doing a 360 and ending up in the ditch on the side of the road. I composed myself and continued on my way. I had no signal on my phone and petrol was running low. Luckily I made it out. I hadn’t taken any drugs or drank any alcohol. I saw bullet holes in the street signs out there too. That night I had the scariest sleep paralysis of my life. I was camping in the middle of nowhere asleep face down in my swag when I was awoken at the sound of the zipper coming open behind my back. I was frozen in fear and felt like someone was about to stab me in my spine and then I broke free and snapped out of it and sat up shining my torch around. I got in the car and took off to civilisation.
PLEASE keep these Missing 411 and Nautical Mystery series videos coming!! My roommate and I have been watching you guys religiously for over a year now and are always excited when we see a new video uploaded. We love this channel, the meticulous attention to detail, the well-written stories, Roger While's professional narration, and of course Mikey Turcanu's iconic art for without, Bedtime Stories would not be the same!! So hard to find paranormal TH-cam channels that don't annoy the crap out of me. Your hard work is greatly valued and it is our hope that this channel endures for many years to come....
I should share my lost in the woods story. Nothing mysterious about it, but gives an idea how its easy to get lost. In the Smokey Mountains, 2010, I was hiking a mountain with friends. After reaching the peak and resting for an hour, we decided to take the fast way down. I originally was in the lead, since we were all from florida, and I had the most experience with mountains. One of my friends was lagging behind on the steep slope. So I scooted to the rear to give him a hand. The path we were on had rope and markers to assist on the decent. He got the hang of it and began going ahead. I wasn't sure if anyone else was behind so I went a bit slower. Turns out there was no one. I followed the voices of my friends, but they had sped up and their voices faded. Markers got further apart, so I followed the disturbed brush. After ten minutes of walking, I came to the realization that I had followed a game trail. Knowing the general direction of our camp, I continued on. I walked for about a quarter to half mile when I came across a shallow stream. I stepped in and sunk to my shins, tripped, and became covered in mud. I continued a bit further after that. I saw some cut logs stacked about 8 feet high and climbed up to get a better view. I could see a man made structure, and went towards that. My glasses had fogged over at this point, but I followed a man made path to an opening through the trees. I saw some people, thinking it was my group. I jokingly yelled that they left me to die. I wiped my glasses and it turned out to be another group entirely, bewildered that some guy just burst into their camp, covered head to toe in mud, from off the steep side of a mountain. One of my friends wasn't far and heard me yell. He found me and lead me back to camp. What an adventure that was.
Sometimes trail markers are hard to follow and herd paths can often look like a trail. Its not difficult for even experienced people to get lost. Thats why i dont like the 411 stories. They are so easy to explain away
@@JKSSubstandard The write a book explaining every one of the cases Paulides has clearly identified as beyond explanation, I'm sure the police and National Parks Rangers would be interested.
@@67marlins81 Ill point you to my actual comment. But I encourage you, David Pillades and anyone reading too much into the 411 to read some research papers on topics like Paradoxical Undressing, Terminal Burrowing Syndrome and slow onset hypothermia. These conditions occur at moderate temperatures like those found in US national parks or in extreme cold when the body cools slowly. They, together, explain the undressings, missing bodies and bodies found long after searches which have become the hallmarks of 411 cases.
Some details get brushed off in a lot of these cases because people say, "They were experienced, they knew what they were doing". But that completely ignores human hubris. Plenty of people with experience get an ego about it and start ignoring basic safety procedures. This can happen especially when showing off to less experienced people. When "he wouldn't do x thing because he knew better" is removed, then "he got lost/ate the poison thing/fell down into the ravine/etc." becomes actually a pretty good explanation. That said, there are a number of stories that are quite baffling.
I’ve just paused this as it’s 3am and I live alone. Not a big deal to most 33 year old men, but I’m not most men and BTS scares the shit out of me! Hits play* wish me luck...
My thought on the Reverend's disappearance: The sand pit may have had what's called a dry sand hole. It's like a quicksand pit but without water. you can rapidly sink into one and suffocate. My guess from the lack of footprints iis that one opened under the Reverend and buried him on the spot
But wouldn't he have cried out? And if his friend was nearby, wouldn't he have heard something ? No signs of a struggle? My guess would be he probably went to clean some equipment and fell into the stream nearby, if I heard that correctly.
If I'm correct, it said that they had been at it (digging and stuff) for two hours. Until and unless the sand pit decided to have a human Happy Meal within those 15 minutes bracket, I don't think hungry sand pit ate the old man. Although, yeah, that's where I went as well, initially, but it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Can confirm pockets like this in and around Colorado creeks. Went on a photography shoot along a shallow creek bed. Was walking and then just sank up to above my knee in less than a second. Took a minute to pull out of the vacuum. Couldn't tell anything happened the way the sand settled back in after I got out.
This reminds me of those stories I read back in the day with the title "I'm a Search and Rescue Officer for the US Forest Service, I have some stories to tell" posted on reddit.
funny how they neglected to mention that when Prabhdeep went missing, a massive snow storm hit the area and he likely went off trail and died of exposure, given we was only wearing jeans and a jumper
yeah most of this 411 stuff is just mystery created by manipulated/omitted information. the first story is very obviously a mountain lion attack if you look up the entire details. and the ravine he was found in wasn't actually that noticeable from any trail.
@@levitatingoctahedron922 if it's so obvious than how do you explain the complete lack of any evidence of an attack, evidence that most definitely would be there if it was in fact an animal attack.
Eric Buzzard Paulides was never a detective as he claims, but a traffic cop in the San Jose Police Department who was fired for selling fake celebrity autographs after working for 16.5 years.
@@skateboarding118 I've listened to a lot of his talks and im almost certain he has never claimed to have been a detective, he's always just said that he's a former police officer from San Jose. As far as him being fired for what you claim, I just did a quick search and couldn't find anything close to making that claim.
@@ericbuzzard2041 there was. if you mean at the spot where he disappeared, that's how mountain lion attacks on children/pets generally go. they grab a kid by the neck and drag them far up a hill where they can eat them in peace. the clothes were torn and inside out as if pulled off of his body by something without thumbs which is consistent with some other mountain lion predation attacks, and is why we know that it was a mountain lion. where the body was found and the details surrounding it IS THE EVIDENCE OF AN ATTACK.
Most people that have lived off grid in the mountains know what this is. They call it, "The Silence". The forest becomes completely quiet. No wind, no birds, nothing. Even if you're standing by running water, you can't hear it. If you stay, you'll disappear. You have to run until you hear sounds again. Not sure what causes it, but you don't want any part of it.
I love your stories and the additional details that come with them.....but was wondering if you could go into detail at some point about the information that David Paulides has deliberately ignored?
You can take pretty much any of the cases David Paulides presents and look into them yourself. You will find in most instances that there is a key piece of information that he didn't relay. Right off the top of my head, let's take the case of Stephanie Stewart in Jasper National Park. Paulides made it out to be highly mysterious, like she just vanished from a fire watch tower during the night without any explanation. He neglected to mention the fact that strange tyre tracks were found leading up to the tower and that specks of Stephanie's blood were found inside the cabin. That's pretty key information. Another one, again off the top of my head, was that British tourist in the Alps. I forget his name now, but he was stopping in a Swiss resort. This resort was split into a plateaued village further up the mountain and a lower village at the base. The only way you can access the upper village is by a special train and the train stops running at a certain time. After 11pm, there's no way to get between the upper tier and lower tier of the resort. Well this British tourist left a pub in the upper tier of the resort at 2am and vanished. He was found the next day in the lower tier, his body completely brutalised. Paulides made a big deal out of this because there was no way his body could have gotten to the lower tier. There was no access between the two points. And listening to it, you believe him, until you look at a map of the resort and see that there was, indeed, a way. By jumping off a cliff. And the British guy's body was found at the bottom of this cliff. Again, it's a very deliberate omission of key information on his part. I'm not denying that there are some very strange disappearances, but Paulides' work needs a lot more scrutiny. I left a review of one of his books on his site relaying exactly what I outlined above. It got removed 😕 So he is, at least, a bit disingenuous in his own narrative.
@@BedtimeStoriesChannel thank you :) I will definitely look into that! I was unaware that such key evidence was omitted or glossed right over. As always, you guys have the best channel on TH-cam (imho) and appreciate all the hard work and the reply
@@BedtimeStoriesChannel On the Stephanie Stewart case the info about the tire tracks and the blood are they mentioned in an official report? Paulides gathers information on these cases by talking the the investigators/witnesses directly if he can and requesting official police/autopsy reports which may or may not be complete or show up at all. I question the information in official reports because the investigators want to close the case and will put information in these reports to fit their narrative. In the story that you covered about the two Dutch girls that went missing in Panama the finding of one of the girls shorts has been questioned. The official report stated they were found in the river along the bank but the locals who did the searching said the shorts were found neatly folded on the rocks next to the river dry. In that case the officials wanted the story to be the girls got lost fell into the river and died rather than they were murdered and scare away the tourists.
It’s must be so terrifying to be hearing impaired and be lost (or alternatively, seeking someone who is hearing impaired so they can’t hear you shouting for them)
David Paulides once stated that armed people were a lot less likely to be taken and he's never seen a case where someone with both a firearm and a GPS beacon disappeared.
I love the MIssing 411 stories these mysteries are crazy. Thanks for making another video about it. Your videos are some of my all time favs on TH-cam.
I have seen Paulides completely discount any demonic or spiritual influence of 411 disappearances because some FALSE CHRISTIANS HAVE DISAPEARED. Again he is a fool, if this is HIS idea of REASERCE! He is TOTALLY BIASED, INCOMPITENT, and unreliable if it undercuts his agenda
@@bobburger9152 Be careful of the words you spit out into the world. Dave is a very spiritual man who obviously believes in god, & if he doesn't think demons or spirits are the culprits, then he has a good reason for it. For instance, it wouldn't make sense for demons or spirits to focus specifically on victims who are of German descent, or people who are highly educated & intelligent, Ph.D.'s/doctors/surgeons/therapists, ex-military, people who are adept at wilderness survival or who are very familiar with spending lots of time in the outdoors, they'd have no reason to focus on tight locale clusters of people & take them out alphabetically or by similarities in name or place of origin, they'd have no reason to zone in on people who were born with congenital or gene/DNA-related disorders, or men either in their 20's or 50's, or male children instead of female... a lot of those case points, when considered together, are more suggestive of something with agency & intelligence that for some reason may have an interest in human genetics &/or DNA, or perhaps something that uses these poor people for something until they're no longer needed or are all used up, then discards them in roughly the same area they were taken from. There are several if not many cases that seem to suggest the victims were alive, or kept alive, for the majority of the time they were missing, & their are several if not many bodies that are found with injuries to suggest being dropped from a very high level above the ground in areas where there's nowhere to drop from. Not to mention the supposed "drownings" who have no physical indication of drowning, but do have many fractures & broken bones. Demons wouldn't give two snoots of soot about returning the victim's remains to where they found them weeks to years after the search is called off, they'd have no reason to take or keep the victim's footwear, & they sure as heck aren't gonna care about folding their clothes.
This is one of my favorite YT channels! I found out about it through a recommendation several months ago, binged watched every episode from the beginning, and cannot wait until the next episode is uploaded!
For the Bobby Bizup story there is tons of evidence to suggest he was sexually abused by one or more of the priests, as his disability made him a prime victim. Several of the priests who worked at the camp would later be charged with sexual abuse. Also the son of the doctor who worked at the camp came forward a few years ago with A CHILD’S SKULL his father gave to him. That story is not missing 411, that boy was abused and killed by people who are supposed to represent faith and divinity. Sickening.
I find Missing 411 cases especially fascinating. I live in a part of Scotland surrounded by woods. I often go for walks just after the sun comes up and the woods definitely have a more "primal" feel to them at that time of day, my senses always go on high alert. There's an area in a nearby wood which is my favourite during the day but I steer clear of in my early morning rambles. It feels friendly by day but has a "Something's off" atmosphere in those early hours. We have no predators and I absolutely don't believe in cryptids so I'm not sure why this area fee!s "wrong" at that time but the woods are definitely a place to trust your instincts.
@Goku Kakorot They're small in comparison to the likes of the American national forests but they're not small. I live close to the Galloway national forest which is the largest forest in the UK. The forest comprises of 297 square miles so it's definitely not somewhere you would want to get lost. It may not be Yosemite but it's creepy enough at 5am
@@osakarose5612 don't know how much that will help if something creepy truly is going on in the woods, but trust me, I would have a pack to last a week if I ever do 😅
25 years ago today, on October 2nd, 1999, Jaryd Atadero vanished in the foothills of the Big South Trail on the Rocky Mountain National Park without a trace. He was 3 years old at the time and would've been celebrating his 28th birthday today, October 2nd, 2024 (as of this writing). Although tragic, I'm sure the people involved live everyday wishing that they could've known how to prevent this tragedy and would go back in time to fix it if they could. Our thoughts and prayers are with his father, Alan, and his family, who I'm sure miss him very much. Even though we are all confused and perplexed about what happened, we hope, Jaryd, that, wherever you are now, if you're listening, that you're at peace. Your death will not go in vain.
Much needed correction: Jerod Attadero was taken for the hike by a group of singles visiting his Father’s ranch. His Father was not on the hike with him, and none of the people “watching” him even noticed he had slipped away. They weren’t even supposed to have taken him on that hike. They were supposed to go to a fishery a few miles away, but decided to go elsewhere, late in the day. This is a heartbreaking story. His Father cursed himself for years for trusting those singles with his 4 year old son. Love your show! Just had to comment, as this is a point I’ve never forgotten after reading this story in particular.
Having done some fact-checking, you’re completely right to call me out on this. When I’m trawling though source material for the episodes we produce, inevitably I come across a significant amount of clickbait or false information. A lot of the time I pick up on it, but in this case I didn’t. It’s an unforgivable mistake, and all I can promise is that I will try my hardest to ensure it won’t happen again. My only comfort is that by highlighting Jaryd’s story, it keeps it in the public consciousness and may inspire the authorities to revisit it.
There was a channel called deathbymeme that was taken down off of YT that had a full playlist of David P. ... I have a couple of them but i wish there as a way to recover his channel's content. Disappearances seem to happen to very intelligent and or very young people and in places that have "devil" in the name and national parks...
I remeber his channel, it was excellent because he went and edit the David Paulides interviews and only talked about cases, i remember he closed his channel because some of his videos were being claimed by other users. I hope someday he comes back, and reuploads his videos, because there were topics that a few users talk about.
Interesting points, very young and highly intelligent people are targeted for Adrenochrome harvesting. Not saying that accounts for every missing411 case, but some, absolutely.
I wonder if the old man was sat on sinking sand and simply sank? maybe thats why the sniffer dogs sat at the side of the sand pit and went nowhere else! just a thought. great youtube channel, my favorite.
This is so heart-breaking... Those little children! God only knows what happened to them. I love how the narrator is always so respectful towards them and the loved ones who lost them. These videos are so professional and well. done.
I love David Paulides' work. It's just so intriguing and creepy! I find him very credible and I get the feeling he just wants to help these families in distress!
Should google about him, I believed all he said untill I started seeing controversy online about him. Now I think he sensationalizes stories to fit his narrative.
I have a deep curiosity in everything, I devour any video I can find on crypids especially. I just am not fully committed either way, if one of these things turns out to be real, that can open the flood gates to everything else. I just do not like anyone who constantly says "it is in my book" on every podcast. I honestly have watched 50+ hours of missing 411 podcasts, even repeats of his stories. I just saw somewhere that he was not a detective, and was fired from law enforcement for fraud. Lots of people have seeming damning evidence on him, how he forces coincidences, manipulates distances and times on his stories. I am not saying I know for sure he is a fraud, but I now don't take every word from him actual fact in the cases.
Green Flag Racing He is a con artist. I believed in him too until I stopped giving him benefit of the doubt and started to look into him and the cases themselves. And it seems I was right, David Paulides was never a detective but a traffic cop in the San Jose Police department for 16.5 years, who did not retire but was forced to quit because he was discovered selling fake celebrity autographs. He expects everyone to just take his word for it that he is an unbiased, credible source, and thus posts no sources or references in any of his books, unlike any actual credible work of non-fiction. This is because he has omitted the facts of some cases and in some, outright changing them. I’m all for entertainment but this is completely disgusting and disrespectful to the surviving family and friends of those that went missing. Also it is well known how defensive he gets when people ask him legitimate questions about the cases, which goes against the narrative he portrays. He’s making millions from your ignorance and naivety. Please, look into it.
Some years ago an elderly gentleman living on the edge of Cannock Chase, Staffordshire, in England went for a walk and never came back. Despite an extensive search of the woodland area by locals, police and army specialists he wasn't found until a couple of years later, when a family's dog, rummaging in bracken came across his remains. Like little Bobby, this was close by a well used track through the woods.
Searching up this video. And having both part one and two next to each other. It's really clear how much your art style has developed and how much more skilled you've become in two years.
+Bedtime Stories Allen Atadero wasn’t with Jaryd when Jaryd went missing. Jaryad was with some Christian group when he went missing. They asked Jaryd’s dad if they can take his kids with them and they didn’t even go to the area that they told Jaryd’s dad they were going to go to.
Very glad you said this! I was confused when he said the dad was there. They may want to research a bit deeper or keep facts straight. It's very crucial to these cases and their families.
...it is also believed or implied in the story that the group was under some mind control and Jaryd's disappearance was premeditated by something unknown.
A bunch of people have gone missing in Alaska, and the History Channel made a series about it. Maybe you could make an episode about that next. Finding stories for new videos must be difficult. You're definitely a pro.
What's scarier than any individual instance is the sheer number of people who disappear, combined with the fact that the parks department doesn't seem to really have any interest in finding so many of them. I mean, big shock, US gov't doesn't care about people, but still.
@@Robocopnik - Well when compared to people who visit the parks but do not go missing it's really not that many. Paulides said he wrote about maybe 1,200 cases all total. That's like through history. So the numbers could mislead. OP is correct most are explainable but then there's a few cases that really do mystify.
Millions of people visit the national parks in the U.S. every year, so it is actually a very small number of people who vanish. I think it's not that the Parks Department doesn't care, but many of the parks, especially in the west, are very large and finding a lost person is much more difficult than people might think. It's often hard to know where people might have wandered off to, or fallen, or what kind of trouble they might get into, not understanding the dangers of the environment they are in, especially if they are children. Combing every square foot of even a small amount of forest is no easy task; these forests are hundreds or even thousands of acres or more.
Nice job as always! So great to see this Channel is already a reference! I'd like to make an useful tip: put the previous episodes in the description. It's not always YT make it available at recommend videos. Congrats, Greetings from Brazil!
Hey Bedtime Stories team, So glad that you n the team decided to do this follow up, correcting the unintended mistakes! I absolutely love the channel n have watched all of the stories, to date. Always looking for the next one.. As with any retelling of the stories, certain facts are overlooked or misrepresented... human nature I guess... Both this team n David emphasizes being a critical thinkers. For myself, I'm personally happy to hear a different perspective on these cases; especially if it helps make some sense of it. So I want to say thank you for the follow up to correct the mistakes that you n he has made! It's helpful to clarify the situation.. Keep up the great work!! 😀
Very strange watching this episode. Allyn Atadero was my gym teacher in Middle School. Every year he would give the class a lecture on being safe in the woods and referenced the incident. I'm 20 now and seeing it here is very surreal.
As someone who’s been strapping skins to my skis and walking up very steep slopes since I was 9, the two mountain cases are easily explicable: The snow is treacherous and you should never go anywhere solo. Any one of a number of incredibly deadly things can happen and where you once were, you simply won’t be anymore. Even if somewhere looks safe, that may be an illusion. Tree skiing, for instance, you fall into a tree bowl filled with several feet of snow, you’re going to suffocate pretty quickly. Ditto for avalanches, skiing into a crevasse, off a cliff (done that myself - had to be helicoptered off the mountain), or simply having a close encounter of the arboreal kind at speed. And if you’re alone, even a relatively minor injury that prevents you from getting up or out is significantly more likely to kill you. TL;DR: The Mountains Are Dangerous, never go off piste alone. No amount of technology will save your life if no one knows to turn on their avalanche beeper and start digging.
Yeah, mountains are not safe places, though some of these I believe, are serial killers, others I think though, are definitely just people getting lost. I've lived in the sierra nevada most of my life and I can attest to how dangerous it is, especially those tree holes, I've pulled my crew mates out of those fairly often, one guy seemed to have a talent for finding them by falling inside them.
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damn....almost 500k subs.. i subbed when yall had 10k like 18 months ago. grats! so well deserved. glad you guys stuck with the format and improved it.
It has to be noted, also, that all the of the explanations that people claim Paulides "ignores" (in the words of the narrator), are factors he actually has ruled out before even taking a case. If any of those explanations (like serial killer, suicide, wild animal attacks, etc) are possible or are seen in the reports, he ignores the case completely. he will only take cases where he has entirely ruled out that those occurrences would have happened. So it can be safely assumed that the cases he's taken on did NOT occur because of those reasons.
That's not true. I myself have researched plenty of cases Paulides presents and there are LOADS where he misses out key details, which reveals the reasons behind the disappearances are more mundane. But he's gotta sell those books, right?
@@WildMorgan Really? What kind of research and where can we read it? What kind of details did he leave out? I think I trust a little more in David's research considering he's an former officer rather than a TH-cam account with the name "WTFMate?" You're free to prove me wrong.
@@ericbuzzard2041 I can do that. A good example is the Bart Schleyer case from "There's something in the Woods" part 1. Paulides would have you believe that there was no sign of animal attack, but his remains were found next to heaps of bear dung. Also part of his clothing was torn and bloodstained, which Paulides omits. His next of kin put down in his obituary that he was most likely killed by a bear. Then there's how Paulides's credibility as a former police officer is severely diminished when you consider that he was FIRED from the police force for misconduct.
tall32guy You are not correctly quoting "the words of the narrator." He didn't say Paulides ignores explanations, he said "when certain facts come to light, that Paulides conveniently omitted." --And from those concealed facts, THAT is where the other explanations COULD come from. In other words, Paulides doesn't ignore as many cases as he should. It diminishes the cases that really are unexplainable even with all the facts known. And to be honest it diminishes the tragedies by sensationalizing them. Several of the cases I've heard seem to ignore the horrific possibility that the person was murdered by the person/people they were with, particularly children by their parents or caretakers. I dont' think Paulides is a total charlatan; he reminds me of people who've had stuff like moments of seemingly real telepathy, or poltergeist activity in their home, etc. but they can't make it happen at will, when they want other people to witness it (especially if the lure of money becomes a factor), so they start faking it and making it seem like a more frequent phenomenon. The problem is when you get caught you seem like an utter fake, and people forget that there was no way you could have faked some of the events. I think Paulides gathered up some truly mysterious disappearances with a few strange and common factors, but they would have made for a relatively thin book, so he felt a need to pad it.
One issue that still hasn't been addressed, is why we do not see strange disappearances and/or deaths among the hundreds or thousands of individuals that live alone in or near wilderness areas,
They might also go unreported, especially if they had no friends or family who regularly checked up on them, or if they were the sort who frequently goes somewhere else for extended periods without telling anyone. I've met those types. Under different circumstances, I might have even been one of them.
I also follow David Paulides and recently watched Missing 411 Hunters. This was a great top off. Another great story guys! Thanks for keeping us entertained with such interesting tales and stories.
Great job, BC....you've "whetted" cyberland's collective appetite for more strangeness....as only you can deliver it!!!!! These cases are very hard to understand (and, so, hard to explain, as it were!) until you've seen several of them and then finally 'get' it.....the bizarre things that group the cases together in their unexplainableness.... can't wait to see another 411 installment!!!!
One thing about how people react to this Missing people cases is fact they never even consider "looking" underground. I bet there is a special geological equipment capable of "scanning" what is under the ground. Tunnels and all that stuff hidden from our view. Could be worth checking.
Thank you for including an Australian case. I am now even more scared of the outdoors than I was before. Just kidding, keep doing what you guys do. This was a great video.
You didn’t report the Atadero case properly; Jared wasn’t with his Dad but with a group that was supposed to look after him. He asked questions to a couple of fishermen who didn’t question the fact that a 3 year old boy was walking on his own in the forest. He asked about bears....does that mean that he saw something along the way that would remind him of a bear? There’s a lot of open questions in this case and I am not sure that all possibilities have been covered. Heartbreaking.
Hi there. Having gone back and done some additional fact-checking, you’re completely right to call me out on this. When I research material for the episodes, there’s inevitably a certain degree of clickbait or factually inaccurate detail featured on some of the sites I visit, and I should have picked up on this. It’s an unforgivable mistake on my part, and something I’ll try to ensure does not happen again in the future. Hopefully featuring Jaryd’s story will keep it in the public domain, and maybe even motivate others to revisit it in the future.
Simon Andrews I never meant to call you out on the Jared case or in any way criticise you. You run a very good channel and you are generally spot on. I only thought that you probably based yourself on incomplete information. It must be incredible hard work to cover those intricate crime cases and you do a good job of it. 💐
Missing 411 is pretty spooky, but it doesn't really hold up under much statistical scrutiny. Paulides is applying small scale police investigative tactics to a massive sample size (for another example of why this leads to false trends being identified, look up the 'smiley face killers'). There is a reason why statistician is a separate profession and science. A lot of the individual cases are pretty weird, though. Dennis Martin's case is especially harrowing.
The missing clothes -- especially in a snowy cold place could actually be explained by hypothermia -- when it sets in you feel like you're burning up so your first instinct is to take clothes off to cool down
"I've heard and seen things that I couldn't identify or explain." So because you lack the knowledge or experience to identify something means what exactly? Ignorance breeds mysticism that is why these stories have a paranormal tilt when they can all be explained with simple logic. I grew up in the woods of N FL and still live there and i've never seen or heard anything at the age of 43 that I couldn't explain with a little logical thinking.
I really don't think there's anything spooky going on here. People underestimate how dangerous the wilderness is, especially for those inexperienced in it. It takes nothing at all to get hopelessly lost. And all the time-frames given for how quickly someone disappeared after the last time someone saw them are anecdotal. Of course the person responsible for the missing child will say "I only turned my back for a split second!" The fact alone that you were distracted at all means your sense of time for that period will be unreliable. This, combined with the sheer vastness of the spaces involved leads me to think that these are just ordinary cases of people getting lost naturally. It happens all the time. As for the folded clothing etc, I'm going need to see some proof of that. Oh, and if you take the map of missing 411 cases and overlay it onto the black bear distribution map, they match perfectly.
Thank you for pointing out that David Paulides isn't always 100% forthcoming with all the relevant fact about the cases he covers. Although there is the occasional very odd one, many can be explained once all the facts are known. I also feel that he may be doing a disservice by making people fear that going to National Parks and enjoying the outdoors is more dangerous than it is, or dangerous for the wrong reasons. If people are sensible and well-prepared, it isn't something to fear. People need to learn to appreciate the beauty and amazing diversity of the natural world.
@@conveyor2 There's a difference between perceived risk and real risk. Of course some people die or go missing each year in National Parks and Monuments. But compared to the millions of people who visit these places each year, it is a very tiny percentage. Conversely, the number of people who are killed or injured on US roads each year while traveling via automobile is a very large number, yet most people assume this risk every day. Quite a number of people are injured or even killed getting into or out of bathtubs each year, yet David Paulides doesn't suggest that something dangerous is lurking in our drains. It is a matter of perceived risk. Life is dangerous and inevitably ends in death. All of life's activities carry some small risk, even getting out of (or, for that matter staying in) bed each morning. One simply has to choose which to chance.
@@conveyor2 Their "la-la-land", as opposed to the world you live in where everything is a mystery or bigfoot. Could some of the cases have paranormal explanations? Sure. However the large majority can easily be explained by rational reasoning. And when they are it's funny how Paulides has nothing at all to say about it.
@Michelle Chaney He has REPEATEDLY LEFT OUT MULTIPLE FACTS IN MULTIPLE CASES. Saying he didn't doesn't make it so when it's LITERALLY BEEN PROVEN. He is NOT AN EX-DETECTIVE. He was a traffic officer for 16 years before resigning IN DISGRACE. As far as caring, meh....could be argued both ways. He brings attention to missing persons who probably stopped getting it long ago, the FACT that he omits things to suit his purposes of making $$$$ is scummy but IMO doesn't outweigh bringing the attention. If he REALLY cared though he wouldn't sell his fucking books at 60-100 a copy.....but please tell me more fake nonsense about him!
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I have seen all of these, David Paulides has a million ripped videos about these same disappearances posted all over so it's hard to avoid. Great video and respectively done I just think most people have heard of ALL of these by now.
You guys have done these vids and research , id honestly like your honest opinions on what you think is going on in the woods .
Hi guys, Simon here.
It’s been rightly pointed out that the segment in relation to Jaryd Atadero is factually inaccurate. His father was not with him at the time, but had allowed him to go off with a Christian group.
This is a really basic error, and I can only apologise for any upset or issue it has caused. It’s in no way deliberate. I go through a lot of source material in order to write each episode, and sometimes my fact-checking isn’t up to scratch.
This isn’t on Rich or Mikey, it’s on me. And I apologise. I’ll try my hardest to ensure no further mistakes get made, and I take heart in the thought that by highlighting Jaryd’s case, it may get revisited by the authorities at a future point.....
I noticed that too and these things can happen. You do an incredible job with your research and the Missing 411 topic has so much information to sift through. Clearly that was not an intentional mistake... live and learn. Thanks for all you do.
I don't think it will get revisited by authorities unless they find new evidence.
the explanation that makes most sense to me is that he was killed by a mountain lion, and carried off, but the lion got spooked and left his corpse where it was later found after other animals had had there way with it.
@@marhawkman303 Thats a realistic hypothesis but it seems reasonable that the searchers and sniffer dogs would have found at least a drop or two of blood, if not more if a mountain lion had attacked. 🤔
Doesnt matter, still a great video with some of the best narration and images on TH-cam. Love the work you guys do, and the fact you comment about the mistake and own up to it shows how much respect you have for your viewers.
Thanks for correcting it. We still have faith in your work and I know you work hard to get things right, it happens to the best of us. Keep your head up
I grew up on a farm located in over 30,000 acres of woods and I can say they can definitely change on you in moments. Things that are familiar one day seem different the next. The atmosphere can be peaceful one minute then tense the next. That prevailing feeling that something's out there can become intensely strong. And the uncanny sense that your being closely followed by something/someone you can sense but not see is the most disturbing experience.
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Those feelings are bizarre, the feelings of being watched and suddenly becoming incredibly unsettled and unnerved. I've had them walking in bright open fields where I can see all around me, in woods, when it's dark and you can't see out of your windows, even just sitting in my room with the blinds down and lights on. I wonder what causes it
If you think about it though, those feelings are just your primal instincts kicking in. That feeling of being self aware and fear of the unknown is your mind preparing you to expect the unexpected
@@kaiishere016 I know that when you get a sudden chill out of nowhere, it's because a spirit or entity is looking at you. And when you see a friend or relative in your dreams, it means they are thinking about you.
The Missing 411 is probably the creepiest thing happening around the world. Glad to see you guys doing more videos on it
Seriously that's for sure
@@Packsuperbowl it's not the getting lost that's creepy. It's the never being seen again, or remains being found in places that were searched multiple times. It's just the strangeness of it
@@Packsuperbowl these people are not getting lost, you obviously haven't heard or read about all the MISSING411 cases to say that these people are just getting lost.
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The poor Reverend, he just wanted a nice day in the woods. My heart goes out to all those missing and those who lost them.
I doubt he ever made it to the woods. I don't believe in magic, so it seems likely that McSherry guy had something to do with this "disappearance." He's the only person who "saw" the old guy. Oh, plus he had a car. What was the point of flagging down another vehicle? This would also explain why the sniffer dogs never found anything to sniff. It wasn't some supernatural force. It was likely that there was just nothing there for them to sniff.
"We believe a mountain lion unclothed the young child, and neatly folded his clothes, before eating him". - Brilliant Human That Is Good At Their Job.
It's things like that that make me question the competency of certain members in various law enforcement agencies and other authorities.
@@Sierra-208 That's not a matter of competency. It's a matter of coverup or discarding the case.
I'd have to go back and listen again, but it makes me wonder about child molestation, with police covering for someone associated with them.
@@Sierra-208 it was a big mountain lion...
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That knows how to neatly fold clothes.
@@Sierra-208 They are threatened by the government just like the rest of us from revealing any secret info they might stumble onto
In Jaryd’s case, the father wasn’t with him on the hike. He was back at home (I believe he owned either a shop or Airbnb) while a church group had taken Jaryd on a hike without telling the father exactly where they were going. His father was under the impression that they were going to a fish hatchery but instead they went to Big South Trail
Right I don’t know how he could have messed up those details so badly if he’s going to narrate these sad cases at least have the respect to get the facts right for the family I heard the dads voice in a interview the guy is still really messed up about his son. . . I wonder about those 2 fisherman if they were further interviewed cause they were the last to see him alive and it’s kinda weird they just let a little kid wonder off down the trail by himself I would have at least followed him till I made sure he got back to his parents or guardians. Suspicious if u ask me.
Yeah the details of this case are really messed up . Aarrgg faith in channel has been shaken
Jaryd Atadero. They found his skull cap and one tooth on a log above a ridge line, as well as a sneaker I believe. This was two men by accident a couple years later. It was a church group, who were incredibly stupid to let such a young boy move on ahead alone. He was actually seen by two fishermen, whom he asked if there were bears. Incredibly, the fishermen let him go on alone also
@@korbendallas71 You had faith in this channel? Good grief. It's all based on hyped up creative writing.
@@SpicyTexan64 no buddy these are true stories he nly got the part about the parents wrong the boy WAS with a church group.
Another perfect example of the missing 411 can be traced to 1914 with the disappearance of Cathline Simpson on Hudson Bay Mountain near Smithers BC. She was the 24 year old wife of Hunter Simpson, a local prospector how had a mine above their ranch on Hudson Bay Mountain, and one evening in January her husband did not return from work. Fearing for his safety, Cathline had someone at the ranch ride to the nearby camp at Jennings for help while she saddled her horse and vanished into the night. The search party sent to help Hunter Simpson discovered him burned and injured half way down the trail from the mine, and after helping him, asked where his wife was. She had truely vanished, her horses tracks ended 3 quarters of the way up the trail to the mine, with no sign of struggle or foul play. Native hunters and a massive search party looked for 10 days, but found no trace of Cathline. Cathline was a hardened outdoors woman, well trained in dealing with the bitter winter and predators of the region. To this day nothing of her or her horse has ever been found.
Couldn’t really find anything about that. Could you list a website?
Interesting.
Horse spooked.
Horses have to be trained to go out at night because they are natural prey animals, the slightest sound they can't identify will send them careening through the trees and off a cliff, I doubt they searched every square meter of that mountain back in those days in the middle of winter
I watched one of the Missing 411 videos recently and they mentioned the three missing people at the Donnell Vista Point in California. This area is pretty close to me and I remember seeing missing persons posters there a few years back.
They implied that a serial killer or something stalks the area, but realistically that spot is extremely dangerous to hike off the trail. It features a sheer cliff and lots of crevices to slip into. Same thing with a lot of the Sierra Nevada mountains in that area.
The main thing you should always do when out in the mountains or woods is keep your wits about yourself and remain situationally aware. Don't assume that since it's called a national forest or park that it's like a city park or theme park. You can loose your life to a simple screw up not far from the road. A twisted ankle, a concussion, or simply dressing unprepared and getting caught in bad weather.
Good advice and also listen to your gut feelings regardless how crazy it may seem, because those feelings may save your life.
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Not to mention let someone know where you’ll be, that way if you don’t check in at a specific set time they can start the search immediately instead of wasting critical hours.
Or snake bites.
But that doesn’t change the fact that the bodies weren’t found
"Investigators were struck by how pristine the clothing was...even though the items had been exposed to the elements for over four years." The logical answer here is the clothing was NOT "exposed to the elements for four years." It was probably placed where it was found several years after Jaryd Atadero disappeared, i.e., shortly before investigators found it there.
Right and it was just the biggest coincidence in the world that the clothing was children sized and exactly what he had been wearing AND nobody bothered making sure there was no one else around.
Ok. Why? Why bring the clothes back years later, turn them inside out, fold them neatly and leave them there to be found? What motive would a serial killer, bigfoot or alien have to do that?
The most plausible one of those (serial killer) would have the least motive, as he's exposing himself to donate evidence to the authorities that could lead them back to him. It defies logic.
I highly doubt this folded clothes stuff happened as reported.
As for *missing* clothes, I've seen paradoxical undressing in real life. That actually happens.
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>"What motive would a serial killer, bigfoot or alien have to do that?"
A serial killer or humanoid creature like bigfoot wouldn't have any logical motive. An alien wouldn't have any comprehensible motive. What disturbs me is the notion that what causes this sort of tragedy to happen never had any sort of motive at all.
@@df0016 Probably a tasteless "joke" by someone morbid who heard the story of the disapprearing and wanted to fan the flames of speculation.
Did anyone check any fingerprints at that time on the clothes
*There's Something in the Woods* Good thing I live in the desert.
*There's Something in the Desert* Uh oh.
At least it's not There's Something In The City.
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@@jmferr2011 i'm expecting urban legend stories soon..
There's something in the Woods: IDC, I go camping sometimes.
There's something in the desert: IDC. I go mountain biking sometimes.
There's something in the water: Nope. I hate water.
Next he'll make "There's something in the city".
"There's something in the Desert" - So what, I live in the Mountains.
""There's something in the Mountains" -GOD DAMN IT!
If Paulides ever vanishes people are gonna freak.
Omg you're so right haha even I would freak
His 👻 would tell us what happened👻
I think he might have had a close one some time ago, he said he was with another guy deep in the woods when everything went deathly quiet, they stood back to back with guns drawn until sometime later the usual woodland sounds returned (I think that was on a coast to coast interview with George Knapp over ten years ago)
@Jacob Jingleheimer Because Paulides gives legitimate research a bad name.
...….perhaps Justin knows the TRUTH lol !!!!!!!!
"The 411 phenomenon is not restricted to North America..."
me: don't say Australia, don't say Australia, don't say Austr
"...the snowy mountains"
me: NO
the thing about Australia is you can walk out your back door get attacked by willdabeast bit by a snake and ate by a croc. No one would probably bat an eye.
@crazy silly listen I was high af when I wrote this😂 but now that I think about I really don't know the difference (as far as animals go) between Africa and Australia. I'm about to go look up alot of shit.
I saw South Wales in the subs and though fuck, then I saw Australia South Wales, oh thank fuck.
@crazy silly They were introduced and are feral wild species here now too, mostly in Queensland.
It's that or "Water Buffelo" but it's basically the same outcome, they are large aggressive bovines.
The only real danger in Australia is the Drop Bears!
KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR DAMN KIDS WHILE YOU ARE IN DANGEROUS SITUATIONS LIKE BEING IN THE DEEP OUTDOORS.
so true. a simple fall can end your life.
If it's dangerous for adults it's extremely dangerous for children
@Fabian Sosa cuz there are things that can kill you in the wilderness
Or keep your eyes on your children ALL THE TIME!
@Fabian Sosa I'd wager its more likely that their method of getting out of the house is to go camping and hiking. Just because the thing has a trail doesn't mean you can't die on it. I nearly slid on some ice hidden under snow when hiking over Mt. Potosi as a kid. If I had? It was a long way down to regret it, assuming I didn't get caught on one of the twisted trees growing on the sides or something. (The Scout Master behind me caught me by my backpack and held me fast) But that's not *new* either. Its dangerous to cross a street in a city too. Situational awareness is pretty much always the solution. Its just hard to have that while running or daydreaming and both those things tend to happen on trails a lot.
idk about you guys but if i ever get lost or die in a bizarre manner, i want this guy to narrate the mysteries surrounding my death
I'm nature devoted, and I love hiking and camping (especially alone and in total silence) ... these videos though, make me triple think whether it´s worth the risk.
DON'T FUCK AROUND.
It's worth it, so long as you treat the wilderness with respect. I don't mean that in a New Agey way, just, don't underestimate nature, expect the unexpected and don't go out unprepared. Bad things can happen, but bad things can happen anywhere. You can be sitting in your house and a tornado could hit it, or you can be on the road and get t-boned, or you can get mugged two blocks from your house. Life is never 100% safe. But people can go out into the wilderness, and as long as they're careful it's usually perfectly fine. It's only likely to turn out badly if you go out unprepared, not knowing what you're doing, and aren't careful.
It's totally worth it. Most of these incidents boil down to lack of preparedness, overestimating one's capabiities, or sheer stupidity. As long as you're careful and realistic about your own limitations, you'll likely be fine. You're more in danger of being in a car accident or getting assaulted on a city street than you are of going missing in the wilderness. Enjoy your solitude!
Same
This freaked me out because I thought tomorrow was Monday and panicked
Aye fuck all that. Me too. I'm in no hurry for Monday!
Usually enjoying bedtime stories on sunday!!!
mondays the real horror story
@@jessemacaspac443 yes 😂
😄👍 # WhatDayIsIt? 🤔
Tomorow is monday
Your voice is so imersive that i was actually paying attention to the announcement.
Immersive*
@@lordkrythic6246Shut it****
Ugh the 411 cases are so creepy.
I used to live in the national forest in Washington off highway 101.
Those woods are old, beautiful and when it's suddenly silent, chilling.
some were taken, some were spared. I think this thing picks its victims meticulously.
Coronavirus regulations: Nah we still going to the park to party, live life and have a good time.
Missing 411: The backyard is outdoors enough.
Dave Paulides does a great job with Missing 411 !!!!!
Well, the backyard is outdoors, can't argue with that
Lol
@@jo-annfat-bricks2471 I guess you're not taking your medication again otherwise you wouldn't say something so disrespectful and crazy. Many of us lost loved ones to the virus. Shame on you!
@@jo-annfat-bricks2471 I wouldn't say it was completely a hoax, but flus, colds, viral infections have all killed people and some of them have many more so than COV19. At the end of the day, it is one of many viral infections. We have this awesome system in our bodies called immunity and the wisest thing to do these days is guard it, protect it, nurture it with the right foods, and treat it like gold!
There's something about the woods and the forests that just makes it creepier. I'm glad this is being talked about.
@Goku Kakorot I like the way you think.
Can you do daytime stories too? I'm scared of these...
That would be awesome for this channel, or creating a spin-off! There are things that do go bump in the light, too, not just in the night.
The national park disappearances tend to happen around 3-4pm, so these kinda qualify lol
Am I missing something, or do most of the stories in this video happen during the day?
@@pegleg2959 when I mean daytime stories, I mean more friendly stories that's aren't dark
I can tell you from personal experience that unexplained things exist outside of what our minds can comprehend! I’m from Philadelphia and lived within close proximity of what used to be the Byberry mental institution. I never went there out of unease until my late teens. I had went there a few times, during the night with a group of about ten people each time. There were about 6 or 7 buildings left from the 15 to 20 that originally existed for decades and they were abandoned for my entire life up until the time I first went there. Now keep this in mind when I tell my story because up until that point it had been abandoned for about 25yrs. PA also has a large culture of urban explorers that live to take souvenirs pertaining to the places they explore. Keeping that in mind and with the amount of time Byberry laid abandoned, there wouldn’t have been any reason for me to find what I found that started my terrifying experience! So, going there the few times I did with friends I quickly realized that the noises people attributed to ghosts and such were noises from other floors and close buildings because you were probably one of about ten other groups of people on different floors and other buildings in close proximity, especially on the weekends as it was a very popular place to graffiti, set fires and break windows. So I had been there about 4 times all at night and a few weeks after that last nighttime excursion there was plans to have a kegger, during the day, in the auditorium. So I went by myself to meet up for this kegger. I had to go in through the far side of the main building to bypass security and Philly PD. Halfway through I slipped on some ice and almost smashed my head on a jagged piece of metal jutting from the wall so I was already feeling uneasy about the whole situation. So I exited the main building and came up on the janitors/ mechanical building which was one floor and four rooms deep with entry doors on either side like a switch back. I entered the first room, still feeling pretty adventurous and noted nothing out of the ordinary. I then enetered the second room which had lockers on both sides and came across an open locker. Sitting on the shelf, in plain sight and perfectly in the middle was a name tag of someone who had worked there in the past. Now this name tags existence and placement should not have been possible at all as that was definitely a souvenir that would’ve disappeared decades before due to it being tied to an actual person that worked in the hospital. Well I picked it up and as quickly as I did everything went dead silent... like way too awkwardly silent! Standing in the deafening silence, I heard a noise in one of the two last rooms which were just about completely dark save for the light in the doorway. I thought at first that the noise I heard was most likely a cat, raccoon or possum due to the area surrounding the place being heavily wooded. As I put the name tag in my pocket and began to walk closer to that last door the noise started to grow. I quickly decided to leave and as I walking out the noise grew to an almost roar! It sounded like at least 30 people were beginning to run from those last rooms and as I got into the first room it sounded like the lockers were crashing to the floor in the room I had previously been in. By this point I was absolutely terrified and broke into a sprint and the moment I exited the building every single bit of noise ceased completely! I stopped and looked into the building from about 4 or 5 ft away and saw absolutely nothing and heard nothing! Well after that I walked over to the auditorium and peaked my head in, saw nobody was there and immediately left. I got home that day and put the name tag in my desk drawer and forgot about it. I was also invited a few times to go back... I never went back! Well to end this story, the state started to demolish the remaining buildings a few months later and I went to check on the name tag in my drawer to show a friend and it vanished... no evidence of me ever having it... only my recollection of it exists! That was about 20 yrs ago and since then I’ve only told this story 10 to 15 times at the very most and every single time I tell, even now, my blood runs ice cold and I get a horrible feeling of unease in my soul! So you can either believe me or not, it’s up to you, but I could care less if you do or don’t because that fear of death will never leave me and I will always wholeheartedly believe that there is something else out there! Just to reiterate... I NEVER went back!
Cool story. Thanks for sharing
Wow this is such a brilliantly put.
What happened to the keg party? That's what I thought.
Personal experience is neither evidence nor reliable.
Suggestion: try to break it up into a few paragraphs so it’s not just a wall of text. Thanks.
Please make more part 2 "something in the"
I admire these videos
carddamom there’s a hole in my pocket 🤫
@@danyheatleyall-star3677 Theres a hole in my bucket, dear Elisa dear Elisa...
I’m from Sydney and I went a solo road trip heading to Melbourne. I ended up in the Snowy River Mountains and had an extremely bizarre experience. I was driving through the long and winding roads when I saw a headless horse on the side of the road. The next bend around the corner I saw a snake that stretched from one side of the road to the other side. A very weird and strange feeling came over me and I started to get anxious. I was lost at this point too. Then as I came around the next corner I saw a black or dark brown wallaby with its back to me and as it turned around to look at me it was as if it was in slow motion and it’s face was my face but as an old man. I was in my 20s. Everything became dream like and I started to speed faster to get the hell out of this strange place. I lost control driving around the next bend and slid out, the car doing a 360 and ending up in the ditch on the side of the road. I composed myself and continued on my way. I had no signal on my phone and petrol was running low. Luckily I made it out. I hadn’t taken any drugs or drank any alcohol. I saw bullet holes in the street signs out there too.
That night I had the scariest sleep paralysis of my life. I was camping in the middle of nowhere asleep face down in my swag when I was awoken at the sound of the zipper coming open behind my back. I was frozen in fear and felt like someone was about to stab me in my spine and then I broke free and snapped out of it and sat up shining my torch around. I got in the car and took off to civilisation.
PLEASE keep these Missing 411 and Nautical Mystery series videos coming!! My roommate and I have been watching you guys religiously for over a year now and are always excited when we see a new video uploaded. We love this channel, the meticulous attention to detail, the well-written stories, Roger While's professional narration, and of course Mikey Turcanu's iconic art for without, Bedtime Stories would not be the same!! So hard to find paranormal TH-cam channels that don't annoy the crap out of me. Your hard work is greatly valued and it is our hope that this channel endures for many years to come....
Love this channel! The art style and the reading go together perfectly. Happy I became a member. Very happy you made book as well.
Me too!
Wait a second. They've made a book?
@@rampageblizzardapparently
@@bodhip it's crazy how fast time flies.
I should share my lost in the woods story. Nothing mysterious about it, but gives an idea how its easy to get lost.
In the Smokey Mountains, 2010, I was hiking a mountain with friends. After reaching the peak and resting for an hour, we decided to take the fast way down.
I originally was in the lead, since we were all from florida, and I had the most experience with mountains. One of my friends was lagging behind on the steep slope. So I scooted to the rear to give him a hand. The path we were on had rope and markers to assist on the decent. He got the hang of it and began going ahead. I wasn't sure if anyone else was behind so I went a bit slower. Turns out there was no one.
I followed the voices of my friends, but they had sped up and their voices faded. Markers got further apart, so I followed the disturbed brush. After ten minutes of walking, I came to the realization that I had followed a game trail. Knowing the general direction of our camp, I continued on. I walked for about a quarter to half mile when I came across a shallow stream. I stepped in and sunk to my shins, tripped, and became covered in mud. I continued a bit further after that. I saw some cut logs stacked about 8 feet high and climbed up to get a better view.
I could see a man made structure, and went towards that. My glasses had fogged over at this point, but I followed a man made path to an opening through the trees. I saw some people, thinking it was my group. I jokingly yelled that they left me to die. I wiped my glasses and it turned out to be another group entirely, bewildered that some guy just burst into their camp, covered head to toe in mud, from off the steep side of a mountain.
One of my friends wasn't far and heard me yell. He found me and lead me back to camp. What an adventure that was.
Sometimes trail markers are hard to follow and herd paths can often look like a trail. Its not difficult for even experienced people to get lost. Thats why i dont like the 411 stories. They are so easy to explain away
@@JKSSubstandard Yeah, the markers in this case were old ribbons every 30-50 feet.
@@JKSSubstandard The write a book explaining every one of the cases Paulides has clearly identified as beyond explanation, I'm sure the police and National Parks Rangers would be interested.
@@67marlins81 Ill point you to my actual comment. But I encourage you, David Pillades and anyone reading too much into the 411 to read some research papers on topics like Paradoxical Undressing, Terminal Burrowing Syndrome and slow onset hypothermia. These conditions occur at moderate temperatures like those found in US national parks or in extreme cold when the body cools slowly. They, together, explain the undressings, missing bodies and bodies found long after searches which have become the hallmarks of 411 cases.
@@JKSSubstandard that only explains a few cases. THere are thousands of cases out theres and many are unable to be explained by anything we know
That waterfall though...
Yeah! Ain't it very well done, and the flowing river, too!
@dungoist 16:35
@@supernautacus Also, at the time of the man's death both were frozen over. One of the leading theories is that he actually fell off the waterfall.
@@marhawkman303...Indeed? Then the effect, was effective. Once again 'Waters flooding away life".
Whilst it was frozen or not ?
Some details get brushed off in a lot of these cases because people say, "They were experienced, they knew what they were doing". But that completely ignores human hubris. Plenty of people with experience get an ego about it and start ignoring basic safety procedures. This can happen especially when showing off to less experienced people. When "he wouldn't do x thing because he knew better" is removed, then "he got lost/ate the poison thing/fell down into the ravine/etc." becomes actually a pretty good explanation. That said, there are a number of stories that are quite baffling.
Well, looks like we're not out of the woods yet...
DOH!
Ha.
Wah wahhh
No we are not.
Because we certainly aint in them yet LOL !!!!
I’ve just paused this as it’s 3am and I live alone. Not a big deal to most 33 year old men, but I’m not most men and BTS scares the shit out of me! Hits play* wish me luck...
Relax yur not in the woods, and there is definitely nothing behind you. No need to look. Seriously do not look.
Lol, did you check under the bed and look in the closet before climbing into bed ...if you did that you should be alright?
Danny Jamez87 LOL this guy is scared of a K Pop group
@@heckinchonker_8157 was gonna comment
@@heckinchonker_8157 big woosh. The guy's clearly joking my dude.
My thought on the Reverend's disappearance: The sand pit may have had what's called a dry sand hole. It's like a quicksand pit but without water. you can rapidly sink into one and suffocate. My guess from the lack of footprints iis that one opened under the Reverend and buried him on the spot
But wouldn't he have cried out? And if his friend was nearby, wouldn't he have heard something ? No signs of a struggle? My guess would be he probably went to clean some equipment and fell into the stream nearby, if I heard that correctly.
Would explain the missing equipment as well.
Wouldn’t there have been some indication of that happening?
If I'm correct, it said that they had been at it (digging and stuff) for two hours. Until and unless the sand pit decided to have a human Happy Meal within those 15 minutes bracket, I don't think hungry sand pit ate the old man. Although, yeah, that's where I went as well, initially, but it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Can confirm pockets like this in and around Colorado creeks.
Went on a photography shoot along a shallow creek bed. Was walking and then just sank up to above my knee in less than a second. Took a minute to pull out of the vacuum.
Couldn't tell anything happened the way the sand settled back in after I got out.
I bloody love you guys, please never stop
This reminds me of those stories I read back in the day with the title "I'm a Search and Rescue Officer for the US Forest Service, I have some stories to tell" posted on reddit.
Those are some of the best stories ive ever heard, and SO many people have copied that idea since
they were inspired by the missing 411 books
corpse husband is my fave
funny how they neglected to mention that when Prabhdeep went missing, a massive snow storm hit the area and he likely went off trail and died of exposure, given we was only wearing jeans and a jumper
yeah most of this 411 stuff is just mystery created by manipulated/omitted information. the first story is very obviously a mountain lion attack if you look up the entire details. and the ravine he was found in wasn't actually that noticeable from any trail.
@@levitatingoctahedron922 if it's so obvious than how do you explain the complete lack of any evidence of an attack, evidence that most definitely would be there if it was in fact an animal attack.
Eric Buzzard Paulides was never a detective as he claims, but a traffic cop in the San Jose Police Department who was fired for selling fake celebrity autographs after working for 16.5 years.
@@skateboarding118 I've listened to a lot of his talks and im almost certain he has never claimed to have been a detective, he's always just said that he's a former police officer from San Jose. As far as him being fired for what you claim, I just did a quick search and couldn't find anything close to making that claim.
@@ericbuzzard2041 there was. if you mean at the spot where he disappeared, that's how mountain lion attacks on children/pets generally go. they grab a kid by the neck and drag them far up a hill where they can eat them in peace. the clothes were torn and inside out as if pulled off of his body by something without thumbs which is consistent with some other mountain lion predation attacks, and is why we know that it was a mountain lion. where the body was found and the details surrounding it IS THE EVIDENCE OF AN ATTACK.
Most people that have lived off grid in the mountains know what this is. They call it, "The Silence". The forest becomes completely quiet. No wind, no birds, nothing. Even if you're standing by running water, you can't hear it. If you stay, you'll disappear. You have to run until you hear sounds again. Not sure what causes it, but you don't want any part of it.
@@Adrian-vy5vn Myths are just tabloid propaganda for idiots lol
This is called the Oz factor as well.
I love your stories and the additional details that come with them.....but was wondering if you could go into detail at some point about the information that David Paulides has deliberately ignored?
You can take pretty much any of the cases David Paulides presents and look into them yourself. You will find in most instances that there is a key piece of information that he didn't relay. Right off the top of my head, let's take the case of Stephanie Stewart in Jasper National Park. Paulides made it out to be highly mysterious, like she just vanished from a fire watch tower during the night without any explanation. He neglected to mention the fact that strange tyre tracks were found leading up to the tower and that specks of Stephanie's blood were found inside the cabin. That's pretty key information. Another one, again off the top of my head, was that British tourist in the Alps. I forget his name now, but he was stopping in a Swiss resort. This resort was split into a plateaued village further up the mountain and a lower village at the base. The only way you can access the upper village is by a special train and the train stops running at a certain time. After 11pm, there's no way to get between the upper tier and lower tier of the resort. Well this British tourist left a pub in the upper tier of the resort at 2am and vanished. He was found the next day in the lower tier, his body completely brutalised. Paulides made a big deal out of this because there was no way his body could have gotten to the lower tier. There was no access between the two points. And listening to it, you believe him, until you look at a map of the resort and see that there was, indeed, a way. By jumping off a cliff. And the British guy's body was found at the bottom of this cliff. Again, it's a very deliberate omission of key information on his part. I'm not denying that there are some very strange disappearances, but Paulides' work needs a lot more scrutiny. I left a review of one of his books on his site relaying exactly what I outlined above. It got removed 😕 So he is, at least, a bit disingenuous in his own narrative.
@@BedtimeStoriesChannel thank you :) I will definitely look into that! I was unaware that such key evidence was omitted or glossed right over. As always, you guys have the best channel on TH-cam (imho) and appreciate all the hard work and the reply
@@jaimegreene9557 No worries, and thank you for the kind words!
@Bill Blass He literally just stated two examples in the above comment 🙄
@@BedtimeStoriesChannel On the Stephanie Stewart case the info about the tire tracks and the blood are they mentioned in an official report? Paulides gathers information on these cases by talking the the investigators/witnesses directly if he can and requesting official police/autopsy reports which may or may not be complete or show up at all. I question the information in official reports because the investigators want to close the case and will put information in these reports to fit their narrative. In the story that you covered about the two Dutch girls that went missing in Panama the finding of one of the girls shorts has been questioned. The official report stated they were found in the river along the bank but the locals who did the searching said the shorts were found neatly folded on the rocks next to the river dry. In that case the officials wanted the story to be the girls got lost fell into the river and died rather than they were murdered and scare away the tourists.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep,.But I have promises to keep,.And miles to go before I sleep,.And miles to go before I sleep. Robert Frost
My favorite poem
Love that quote 😍
Stopping By Woods On A Snowy Evening
It’s must be so terrifying to be hearing impaired and be lost (or alternatively, seeking someone who is hearing impaired so they can’t hear you shouting for them)
David Paulides once stated that armed people were a lot less likely to be taken and he's never seen a case where someone with both a firearm and a GPS beacon disappeared.
Stay Strapped, or get clapped"
-Sun Tzu
Yet
Good advice. The wilderness is no Disney play ground.
Caleb Dehart but armed experienced hunters have gone missing too.
Unfortunately Lots of these parks are in states run by democrats, that dont allow carrying firearms. Communist democrats.
the rescuers only searched "16 sq miles" and the boy was finally found "5 miles" from the camp, no wonder he was not found.
Keep in mind that SAR operations are not usually carried out in a literal 4x4 square.
I love the MIssing 411 stories these mysteries are crazy. Thanks for making another video about it. Your videos are some of my all time favs on TH-cam.
“So a 3 Yr old, a 10 Yr old and a priest walk into a forest”
“No no I promise it’s funny”
I have seen Paulides completely discount any demonic or spiritual influence of 411 disappearances because some FALSE CHRISTIANS HAVE DISAPEARED. Again he is a fool, if this is HIS idea of REASERCE! He is TOTALLY BIASED, INCOMPITENT, and unreliable if it undercuts his agenda
@@bobburger9152
Be careful of the words you spit out into the world.
Dave is a very spiritual man who obviously believes in god, & if he doesn't think demons or spirits are the culprits, then he has a good reason for it.
For instance, it wouldn't make sense for demons or spirits to focus specifically on victims who are of German descent, or people who are highly educated & intelligent, Ph.D.'s/doctors/surgeons/therapists, ex-military, people who are adept at wilderness survival or who are very familiar with spending lots of time in the outdoors, they'd have no reason to focus on tight locale clusters of people & take them out alphabetically or by similarities in name or place of origin, they'd have no reason to zone in on people who were born with congenital or gene/DNA-related disorders, or men either in their 20's or 50's, or male children instead of female... a lot of those case points, when considered together, are more suggestive of something with agency & intelligence that for some reason may have an interest in human genetics &/or DNA, or perhaps something that uses these poor people for something until they're no longer needed or are all used up, then discards them in roughly the same area they were taken from. There are several if not many cases that seem to suggest the victims were alive, or kept alive, for the majority of the time they were missing, & their are several if not many bodies that are found with injuries to suggest being dropped from a very high level above the ground in areas where there's nowhere to drop from. Not to mention the supposed "drownings" who have no physical indication of drowning, but do have many fractures & broken bones.
Demons wouldn't give two snoots of soot about returning the victim's remains to where they found them weeks to years after the search is called off, they'd have no reason to take or keep the victim's footwear, & they sure as heck aren't gonna care about folding their clothes.
Dying 😂 😂 😂
This is one of my favorite YT channels! I found out about it through a recommendation several months ago, binged watched every episode from the beginning, and cannot wait until the next episode is uploaded!
For the Bobby Bizup story there is tons of evidence to suggest he was sexually abused by one or more of the priests, as his disability made him a prime victim. Several of the priests who worked at the camp would later be charged with sexual abuse. Also the son of the doctor who worked at the camp came forward a few years ago with A CHILD’S SKULL his father gave to him. That story is not missing 411, that boy was abused and killed by people who are supposed to represent faith and divinity. Sickening.
I find Missing 411 cases especially fascinating. I live in a part of Scotland surrounded by woods. I often go for walks just after the sun comes up and the woods definitely have a more "primal" feel to them at that time of day, my senses always go on high alert. There's an area in a nearby wood which is my favourite during the day but I steer clear of in my early morning rambles. It feels friendly by day but has a "Something's off" atmosphere in those early hours. We have no predators and I absolutely don't believe in cryptids so I'm not sure why this area fee!s "wrong" at that time but the woods are definitely a place to trust your instincts.
@Goku Kakorot They're small in comparison to the likes of the American national forests but they're not small. I live close to the Galloway national forest which is the largest forest in the UK. The forest comprises of 297 square miles so it's definitely not somewhere you would want to get lost. It may not be Yosemite but it's creepy enough at 5am
Absolutely beautiful artwork in this story.
I'm happy you guys have a sponsor! And after listening to all these 411 stories it really creeps me out going into the woods now 😅😅
Go check out canam missing 411 project some really usual cases
Just dont make the aliens made and you will be ok
@@osakarose5612 don't know how much that will help if something creepy truly is going on in the woods, but trust me, I would have a pack to last a week if I ever do 😅
25 years ago today, on October 2nd, 1999, Jaryd Atadero vanished in the foothills of the Big South Trail on the Rocky Mountain National Park without a trace. He was 3 years old at the time and would've been celebrating his 28th birthday today, October 2nd, 2024 (as of this writing). Although tragic, I'm sure the people involved live everyday wishing that they could've known how to prevent this tragedy and would go back in time to fix it if they could. Our thoughts and prayers are with his father, Alan, and his family, who I'm sure miss him very much. Even though we are all confused and perplexed about what happened, we hope, Jaryd, that, wherever you are now, if you're listening, that you're at peace. Your death will not go in vain.
Much needed correction: Jerod Attadero was taken for the hike by a group of singles visiting his Father’s ranch. His Father was not on the hike with him, and none of the people “watching” him even noticed he had slipped away. They weren’t even supposed to have taken him on that hike. They were supposed to go to a fishery a few miles away, but decided to go elsewhere, late in the day. This is a heartbreaking story. His Father cursed himself for years for trusting those singles with his 4 year old son. Love your show! Just had to comment, as this is a point I’ve never forgotten after reading this story in particular.
Having done some fact-checking, you’re completely right to call me out on this.
When I’m trawling though source material for the episodes we produce, inevitably I come across a significant amount of clickbait or false information.
A lot of the time I pick up on it, but in this case I didn’t. It’s an unforgivable mistake, and all I can promise is that I will try my hardest to ensure it won’t happen again.
My only comfort is that by highlighting Jaryd’s story, it keeps it in the public consciousness and may inspire the authorities to revisit it.
This is by far the Greatest narrator i have ever listened to
2030: There's Something In The Woods Part 411.
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There was a channel called deathbymeme that was taken down off of YT that had a full playlist of David P. ... I have a couple of them but i wish there as a way to recover his channel's content.
Disappearances seem to happen to very intelligent and or very young people and in places that have "devil" in the name and national parks...
I remeber his channel, it was excellent because he went and edit the David Paulides interviews and only talked about cases, i remember he closed his channel because some of his videos were being claimed by other users.
I hope someday he comes back, and reuploads his videos, because there were topics that a few users talk about.
@Ramza FYI, David Paulides has his own youtube channel where you can find his videos. It’s called Canam Missing Project.
@@KarenSmith-pc8ji yeah but sadly the audio quality is quite Bad on the canam missing
Interesting points, very young and highly intelligent people are targeted for Adrenochrome harvesting. Not saying that accounts for every missing411 case, but some, absolutely.
Oh my god I remember that, it was like finding gold
For future videos, can I request the Order of Nine Angles, Dulce Base/underground lizard people, Sawney Bean and the Toronto Tunnel Monster.
Can I second these requests?
I'm really interested in the Tunnel Monster
I'm intrigued, I've never heard of those.
I wonder if the old man was sat on sinking sand and simply sank? maybe thats why the sniffer dogs sat at the side of the sand pit and went nowhere else! just a thought. great youtube channel, my favorite.
This is so heart-breaking... Those little children! God only knows what happened to them. I love how the narrator is always so respectful towards them and the loved ones who lost them. These videos are so professional and well. done.
There's something in my pocket.
Your hand?
Your phone?
@@Zen-sx5io I hope we find out lol
The one ring. Duh, easy riddle.
Or are you just happy to see us?
We don’t deserve this, it’s not even Sunday yet
It’s Sunday in New Zealand😊 nearly the end of it
cambodia here its 12 pm sunday
Been Sunday for 18 hours here in Germany
This is the best channel ,eloquently narrated stories of unusual incidents
Super glad to see you got yourself a sponsor, you definitely deserve it with the content you produce.
I love David Paulides' work. It's just so intriguing and creepy! I find him very credible and I get the feeling he just wants to help these families in distress!
Should google about him, I believed all he said untill I started seeing controversy online about him. Now I think he sensationalizes stories to fit his narrative.
I get the feeling he's a con artist on the paramoron circuit out to make a buck from the low hanging fruit in the Coast to Coast AM audience.
Green Flag Racing. I get the "feeling" that you're not a fan of the paranormal.
I have a deep curiosity in everything, I devour any video I can find on crypids especially. I just am not fully committed either way, if one of these things turns out to be real, that can open the flood gates to everything else. I just do not like anyone who constantly says "it is in my book" on every podcast. I honestly have watched 50+ hours of missing 411 podcasts, even repeats of his stories. I just saw somewhere that he was not a detective, and was fired from law enforcement for fraud. Lots of people have seeming damning evidence on him, how he forces coincidences, manipulates distances and times on his stories. I am not saying I know for sure he is a fraud, but I now don't take every word from him actual fact in the cases.
Green Flag Racing He is a con artist. I believed in him too until I stopped giving him benefit of the doubt and started to look into him and the cases themselves. And it seems I was right, David Paulides was never a detective but a traffic cop in the San Jose Police department for 16.5 years, who did not retire but was forced to quit because he was discovered selling fake celebrity autographs. He expects everyone to just take his word for it that he is an unbiased, credible source, and thus posts no sources or references in any of his books, unlike any actual credible work of non-fiction.
This is because he has omitted the facts of some cases and in some, outright changing them. I’m all for entertainment but this is completely disgusting and disrespectful to the surviving family and friends of those that went missing. Also it is well known how defensive he gets when people ask him legitimate questions about the cases, which goes against the narrative he portrays. He’s making millions from your ignorance and naivety. Please, look into it.
Some years ago an elderly gentleman living on the edge of Cannock Chase, Staffordshire, in England went for a walk and never came back. Despite an extensive search of the woodland area by locals, police and army specialists he wasn't found until a couple of years later, when a family's dog, rummaging in bracken came across his remains. Like little Bobby, this was close by a well used track through the woods.
Most likely suicide or dementia
Stories so damn scary my guy posted them a day ahead of time.
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Amy you too
I always get a tingly feeling in my stomach when watching bedtime stories videos. Best Channel by miles.
Searching up this video. And having both part one and two next to each other. It's really clear how much your art style has developed and how much more skilled you've become in two years.
+Bedtime Stories Allen Atadero wasn’t with Jaryd when Jaryd went missing. Jaryad was with some Christian group when he went missing. They asked Jaryd’s dad if they can take his kids with them and they didn’t even go to the area that they told Jaryd’s dad they were going to go to.
Exactly
Very glad you said this! I was confused when he said the dad was there. They may want to research a bit deeper or keep facts straight. It's very crucial to these cases and their families.
I thought the same thing when I heard that
...it is also believed or implied in the story that the group was under some mind control and Jaryd's disappearance was premeditated by something unknown.
I was a bit surprised that they so poorly researched this one. David has done dozens of interviews telling this story and it's widely well known
A bunch of people have gone missing in Alaska, and the History Channel made a series about it. Maybe you could make an episode about that next. Finding stories for new videos must be difficult. You're definitely a pro.
You can explain away a big chunk of the cases counted as 411, it's the other few that are really creepy
What's scarier than any individual instance is the sheer number of people who disappear, combined with the fact that the parks department doesn't seem to really have any interest in finding so many of them. I mean, big shock, US gov't doesn't care about people, but still.
@@Robocopnik - Well when compared to people who visit the parks but do not go missing it's really not that many. Paulides said he wrote about maybe 1,200 cases all total. That's like through history. So the numbers could mislead. OP is correct most are explainable but then there's a few cases that really do mystify.
Millions of people visit the national parks in the U.S. every year, so it is actually a very small number of people who vanish. I think it's not that the Parks Department doesn't care, but many of the parks, especially in the west, are very large and finding a lost person is much more difficult than people might think. It's often hard to know where people might have wandered off to, or fallen, or what kind of trouble they might get into, not understanding the dangers of the environment they are in, especially if they are children. Combing every square foot of even a small amount of forest is no easy task; these forests are hundreds or even thousands of acres or more.
LaoTzusGymShoes it’s not that they don’t care it’s that it’s literally impossible to find them
@@karlarose536 omg thank you! Paulides’ mysterious “clusters” happen to coincide with highly visited parks. Please, people. It’s called statistics.
Nice job as always! So great to see this Channel is already a reference!
I'd like to make an useful tip: put the previous episodes in the description. It's not always YT make it available at recommend videos.
Congrats, Greetings from Brazil!
Hey Bedtime Stories team,
So glad that you n the team decided to do this follow up, correcting the unintended mistakes!
I absolutely love the channel n have watched all of the stories, to date. Always looking for the next one..
As with any retelling of the stories, certain facts are overlooked or misrepresented... human nature I guess...
Both this team n David emphasizes being a critical thinkers. For myself, I'm personally happy to hear a different perspective on these cases; especially if it helps make some sense of it.
So I want to say thank you for the follow up to correct the mistakes that you n he has made! It's helpful to clarify the situation..
Keep up the great work!! 😀
Very strange watching this episode. Allyn Atadero was my gym teacher in Middle School. Every year he would give the class a lecture on being safe in the woods and referenced the incident. I'm 20 now and seeing it here is very surreal.
As someone who’s been strapping skins to my skis and walking up very steep slopes since I was 9, the two mountain cases are easily explicable: The snow is treacherous and you should never go anywhere solo. Any one of a number of incredibly deadly things can happen and where you once were, you simply won’t be anymore. Even if somewhere looks safe, that may be an illusion. Tree skiing, for instance, you fall into a tree bowl filled with several feet of snow, you’re going to suffocate pretty quickly. Ditto for avalanches, skiing into a crevasse, off a cliff (done that myself - had to be helicoptered off the mountain), or simply having a close encounter of the arboreal kind at speed. And if you’re alone, even a relatively minor injury that prevents you from getting up or out is significantly more likely to kill you.
TL;DR: The Mountains Are Dangerous, never go off piste alone. No amount of technology will save your life if no one knows to turn on their avalanche beeper and start digging.
Yeah, mountains are not safe places, though some of these I believe, are serial killers, others I think though, are definitely just people getting lost. I've lived in the sierra nevada most of my life and I can attest to how dangerous it is, especially those tree holes, I've pulled my crew mates out of those fairly often, one guy seemed to have a talent for finding them by falling inside them.
Please don’t harsh our buzz with facts. We prefer the commonplace to seem mysterious.
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It has to be noted, also, that all the of the explanations that people claim Paulides "ignores" (in the words of the narrator), are factors he actually has ruled out before even taking a case. If any of those explanations (like serial killer, suicide, wild animal attacks, etc) are possible or are seen in the reports, he ignores the case completely. he will only take cases where he has entirely ruled out that those occurrences would have happened. So it can be safely assumed that the cases he's taken on did NOT occur because of those reasons.
That's not true. I myself have researched plenty of cases Paulides presents and there are LOADS where he misses out key details, which reveals the reasons behind the disappearances are more mundane. But he's gotta sell those books, right?
@@WildMorgan can you give us an example?
@@WildMorgan Really? What kind of research and where can we read it? What kind of details did he leave out?
I think I trust a little more in David's research considering he's an former officer rather than a TH-cam account with the name "WTFMate?" You're free to prove me wrong.
@@ericbuzzard2041 I can do that. A good example is the Bart Schleyer case from "There's something in the Woods" part 1. Paulides would have you believe that there was no sign of animal attack, but his remains were found next to heaps of bear dung. Also part of his clothing was torn and bloodstained, which Paulides omits. His next of kin put down in his obituary that he was most likely killed by a bear.
Then there's how Paulides's credibility as a former police officer is severely diminished when you consider that he was FIRED from the police force for misconduct.
tall32guy You are not correctly quoting "the words of the narrator." He didn't say Paulides ignores explanations, he said "when certain facts come to light, that Paulides conveniently omitted." --And from those concealed facts, THAT is where the other explanations COULD come from. In other words, Paulides doesn't ignore as many cases as he should. It diminishes the cases that really are unexplainable even with all the facts known. And to be honest it diminishes the tragedies by sensationalizing them. Several of the cases I've heard seem to ignore the horrific possibility that the person was murdered by the person/people they were with, particularly children by their parents or caretakers.
I dont' think Paulides is a total charlatan; he reminds me of people who've had stuff like moments of seemingly real telepathy, or poltergeist activity in their home, etc. but they can't make it happen at will, when they want other people to witness it (especially if the lure of money becomes a factor), so they start faking it and making it seem like a more frequent phenomenon. The problem is when you get caught you seem like an utter fake, and people forget that there was no way you could have faked some of the events. I think Paulides gathered up some truly mysterious disappearances with a few strange and common factors, but they would have made for a relatively thin book, so he felt a need to pad it.
One issue that still hasn't been addressed, is why we do not see strange disappearances and/or deaths among the hundreds or thousands of individuals that live alone in or near wilderness areas,
They might be a harder target as they know the lay of the land better and tend to be naturally wary of hostile fauna.
They might also go unreported, especially if they had no friends or family who regularly checked up on them, or if they were the sort who frequently goes somewhere else for extended periods without telling anyone. I've met those types. Under different circumstances, I might have even been one of them.
We might never know they'd gone, or else just find an abandoned cabin or an empty tent and never know why.
Read Paulides' books - yes, they do.
@@NodDisciple1 I would think they would be easier targets for alien abductors, or serial killer cults, or drug lords; what have you.
I also follow David Paulides and recently watched Missing 411 Hunters. This was a great top off. Another great story guys! Thanks for keeping us entertained with such interesting tales and stories.
Have you seen any recent posts from David? I haven't seen anything for 3 weeks and he was weekly before that...
Great job, BC....you've "whetted" cyberland's collective appetite for more strangeness....as only you can deliver it!!!!! These cases are very hard to understand (and, so, hard to explain, as it were!) until you've seen several of them and then finally 'get' it.....the bizarre things that group the cases together in their unexplainableness.... can't wait to see another 411 installment!!!!
One thing about how people react to this Missing people cases is fact they never even consider "looking" underground. I bet there is a special geological equipment capable of "scanning" what is under the ground. Tunnels and all that stuff hidden from our view. Could be worth checking.
true
Bigfoot builds tunnels for sure
Hello Bedtime Stories, hello from Malaysia.
They should do a story on Nora Anne Quorin who went missing for 10 days in Malaysia.
@@koditv6296 yeah , i agree
Thank you for including an Australian case. I am now even more scared of the outdoors than I was before.
Just kidding, keep doing what you guys do. This was a great video.
bro why did you have to bring up new south wales....I live in the mountains dude
Much love bedtime stories. Your doing a 👍 keep us all entertained. So thank you
411 stories never get old; keep 'em coming!
You didn’t report the Atadero case properly; Jared wasn’t with his Dad but with a group that was supposed to look after him. He asked questions to a couple of fishermen who didn’t question the fact that a 3 year old boy was walking on his own in the forest. He asked about bears....does that mean that he saw something along the way that would remind him of a bear? There’s a lot of open questions in this case and I am not sure that all possibilities have been covered. Heartbreaking.
Hi there. Having gone back and done some additional fact-checking, you’re completely right to call me out on this.
When I research material for the episodes, there’s inevitably a certain degree of clickbait or factually inaccurate detail featured on some of the sites I visit, and I should have picked up on this.
It’s an unforgivable mistake on my part, and something I’ll try to ensure does not happen again in the future.
Hopefully featuring Jaryd’s story will keep it in the public domain, and maybe even motivate others to revisit it in the future.
Simon Andrews I never meant to call you out on the Jared case or in any way criticise you. You run a very good channel and you are generally spot on. I only thought that you probably based yourself on incomplete information. It must be incredible hard work to cover those intricate crime cases and you do a good job of it. 💐
Simon Andrews thank you.
Missing 411 is pretty spooky, but it doesn't really hold up under much statistical scrutiny. Paulides is applying small scale police investigative tactics to a massive sample size (for another example of why this leads to false trends being identified, look up the 'smiley face killers'). There is a reason why statistician is a separate profession and science. A lot of the individual cases are pretty weird, though. Dennis Martin's case is especially harrowing.
@Brian The way Paulides talks about the woods makes him sound like a city slicker who doesn't understand the dangers of nature.
The missing clothes -- especially in a snowy cold place could actually be explained by hypothermia -- when it sets in you feel like you're burning up so your first instinct is to take clothes off to cool down
Yes but it’s also called five steps to death. People at that stage usually don’t move much far away and don’t fold their clothes.
Do they also get mentally deranged because even if you feel hot you mentally know youre freezing, no?
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I follow the canam missing project and David Paulides! You two are my favorite channels and I ABSOLUTELY love you guys for doing a story on him
I grew up spending much time in the woods and have hunted my whole life. I've heard and seen things that I couldn't identify or explain.
"I've heard and seen things that I couldn't identify or explain." So because you lack the knowledge or experience to identify something means what exactly? Ignorance breeds mysticism that is why these stories have a paranormal tilt when they can all be explained with simple logic. I grew up in the woods of N FL and still live there and i've never seen or heard anything at the age of 43 that I couldn't explain with a little logical thinking.
>an entire legion disappearing
Such was life for uncle Claudius
A similar thing happened durring ww1 in gallipoli, an entire battilion or regiment dissappeared during a battle.
As somebody who lives in Colorado and loves to hike, this video freaked me out.
I would be pissing my pants hiking after hearing this! Be careful!
Then i'm surpised you missed that he claims Vail is in Indiana....
Omg!!! I so jus joined after over a year of listening to your content and jus had to join!!! I love David too!!!
The art has gotten so much better since the last missing 411 episode! Cheers
"...away from the *continents*, towns, and cities."
All of these stories take place well within the boundaries of continents.
Counties
I think it was "continent's" towns and cities, as in the singular possessive with an apostrophe.
I really don't think there's anything spooky going on here. People underestimate how dangerous the wilderness is, especially for those inexperienced in it. It takes nothing at all to get hopelessly lost. And all the time-frames given for how quickly someone disappeared after the last time someone saw them are anecdotal. Of course the person responsible for the missing child will say "I only turned my back for a split second!" The fact alone that you were distracted at all means your sense of time for that period will be unreliable. This, combined with the sheer vastness of the spaces involved leads me to think that these are just ordinary cases of people getting lost naturally. It happens all the time.
As for the folded clothing etc, I'm going need to see some proof of that.
Oh, and if you take the map of missing 411 cases and overlay it onto the black bear distribution map, they match perfectly.
Chris Trickett BAARMAGEDDON
I second this motion. Paulides is a hack.
Thank you for pointing out that David Paulides isn't always 100% forthcoming with all the relevant fact about the cases he covers. Although there is the occasional very odd one, many can be explained once all the facts are known. I also feel that he may be doing a disservice by making people fear that going to National Parks and enjoying the outdoors is more dangerous than it is, or dangerous for the wrong reasons. If people are sensible and well-prepared, it isn't something to fear. People need to learn to appreciate the beauty and amazing diversity of the natural world.
Enjoy your la-la-land.
@@conveyor2 There's a difference between perceived risk and real risk. Of course some people die or go missing each year in National Parks and Monuments. But compared to the millions of people who visit these places each year, it is a very tiny percentage. Conversely, the number of people who are killed or injured on US roads each year while traveling via automobile is a very large number, yet most people assume this risk every day. Quite a number of people are injured or even killed getting into or out of bathtubs each year, yet David Paulides doesn't suggest that something dangerous is lurking in our drains. It is a matter of perceived risk. Life is dangerous and inevitably ends in death. All of life's activities carry some small risk, even getting out of (or, for that matter staying in) bed each morning. One simply has to choose which to chance.
@@conveyor2 Their "la-la-land", as opposed to the world you live in where everything is a mystery or bigfoot. Could some of the cases have paranormal explanations? Sure. However the large majority can easily be explained by rational reasoning. And when they are it's funny how Paulides has nothing at all to say about it.
Thank you for this. I thought I was the only one who noticed key details being left out of Paulides’ stories to make them seem more mysterious.
@Michelle Chaney He has REPEATEDLY LEFT OUT MULTIPLE FACTS IN MULTIPLE CASES. Saying he didn't doesn't make it so when it's LITERALLY BEEN PROVEN. He is NOT AN EX-DETECTIVE. He was a traffic officer for 16 years before resigning IN DISGRACE. As far as caring, meh....could be argued both ways. He brings attention to missing persons who probably stopped getting it long ago, the FACT that he omits things to suit his purposes of making $$$$ is scummy but IMO doesn't outweigh bringing the attention. If he REALLY cared though he wouldn't sell his fucking books at 60-100 a copy.....but please tell me more fake nonsense about him!
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