It came as a big surprise when "die stem" the Apartheid regime's national Anthem was played before the match and it cause quite a political ruse afterwards.
Agreed. I have a marginal preference for the melody of Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika, but the lyrics are nothing to write home about. I like the lyrics of Die Stem van Suid-Afrika, particularly the last verse.
Beautiful? It has a specific verse in it for Afrikaners. It represented a 'white only' South Africa which is supposedly a republic. It's a disgusting racialistic song.
First time the crowd spontaneously started to sing it; because it was not supposed to be played. It was a form of protest against pre-arranged agreement with the ANC. Then on instruction of Louis Luyt it was played to the surprise of every one. The crowd joint in and the ANC went ballistic.
It's because rugby was hated by the ANC as a symbol of the oppressors along with die stem, but it was actually part of the white identity/culture and not a symbol of power over blacks to them. After this happened the ANC realized they should not get rid of them, and started promoting the "rainbow nation" concept instead. Therefore rugby came to be seen as a symbol of unity and reconciliation, eventually resulting in Mandela attending matches and die stem remaining part of the anthem
I'm an American, and I have an old South African flag in my house. The anthem "die stem" is a beautiful song even in English. My favorite part is "on the plains where creaking wagons cut there trails into the earth, calls the spirit of our country, of the land that gave us birth." Amazing.
The best part is "Calls the spirit of our country of the land that gave us birth, at thy call we shall not faultier, firm and steadfast we shall stand. At thy will to live or perish" it really gets me pumped.
What happened is that the ANC only agreed to the tour going ahead if a minute's silence was observed for the deaths of some people in nationwide violence the previous few weeks, and also for their no 'die stem' to be played because it represented apartheid. So the SA rugby union and govt agreed to that. Yet on the day, the silence was not observed as the crowd sung 'die stem' and then the stadium PA blasted out 'die stem' after the nz anthem. lol ...those were the days eh
Wow wish South Africans can sing the anthem like that. I seen it many times where only one half of the anthem was sung at different occasions (Depends on the crowd). When I saw this match on tv I sang with and was so excited. I always thought Naas Botha was a bad player until recently lol. I blame Schuster.
I don't understand why there is always such commotion about the old symbols like the old flag or ''Die stem van Suid-Afrika''.... Both don't promote Apartheid or racism. It are just symbols of the past..... The South African government must ban real racists song like: ''Kill the boer/kill the farmer...
While they didn't deliberately promote racism or Apartheid, they didn't represent the majority. The current anthem and flag do. You're certainly correct about those anti-Boer songs though.
***** Well you're right about that Die Stem should't be the national anthem of SA. But trough it shouldn't be such controversial song. (at least not more controversial that ''Kill the boer)
To me, this flag represents South African history and culture. You see the Oranje Blanje Blou, representing the Dutch Cape Colony and the Afrikaners' Dutch ancestors, the Union Jack to show the British Cape Colony and the English speaking South Africans, and finally, the flags of Oranje and Transvaal, showing their struggle for independence and self determination. There is nothing racist about taking pride in your volk, culture and heritage, and it's sad that it has to be seen in this way. And, for a personal touch, the flag to me represents order, when South Africa was stable. And the flag is simple, unlike the Modern Art of the new flag.
3 different flags muddled up in the centre of another flag? Simple my ass. Not only is it not simple, it's a boring old tricolour. New flag looks fuckin awesome. As for everything else you said, all I can say is are the other races of South Africa not to be acknowledged?
Prins van Oranje what about the black majority that suffered at the hands of that flag. what about the black people that were not given any say into how any of the colonies. waving that flag is like waving the Nazi flag. South Africa has moved on, so should you.
I can understand. It's part of your history and your country. Nothing wrong with that. It's no longer the flag of RSA but it was, for many years, and nothing in modern eyes can change that.
Sort of agree, but also it only represents some South Africans, they could’ve put that flag in the corner maybe of a newer flag or incorporated the colours
Listen to the crowd. They love it. I'd think that the majority would be whites (certainly the majority of the team are), and admittedly it would probably have been a pretty scary time to be a white South African.
But the whites in South Africa themselves voted in a referendum to remove the Apartheid. If that referendum failed South Africa might be a different place toady.
@Alfa&Omega 00000 I doubt that. In all honesty I think that bringing back the pre-1948 voting laws would have been best (only educated allowed to vote, and those who owned property). There were millions of Bantu people who immigrated in the 1970s, and the Apartheid government did not provide for them, meaning they were easily brainwashed by Communists, leading to the current political situation in South Africa. The 5.2 million whites had the power to say no.
Deloached they were all white, black people were not aloud in the stadiums in 1992. Please stop acting like white South Africans were the victims. I am a white South African and i have been blessed with privilege all my life because of the wealth of my family, wealth which was gained from my parents going to university during apartheid, something which black people were not aloud to do. I am guessing from your ignorance that you are an American. pre 1994 might have been scary for white people but they were only scared of losing their white privilege. How about you spare a thought for the 69 unarmed protesters that were shot dead with assault rifles by white South African police officers, many of them were shot in the back as they ran away and 29 children were shot. Why is it that you don't think of the fear black South Africans experienced, being oppressed by a government that only cared about 12% of the population. why don't you spare a thought for the 14 unarmed black people that were shot dead by South African police officers at the Nonzwakazi methodist church in 1985. or how about you think about the 35 people that were shot dead in march of 1985 while peacefully protesting the killing of six black people by the police. or maybe think about the 700 students that were shot dead by police during the Soweto uprising of 1976.
rich? powerful? please... under apartheid, south africa was a wreck. this whole notion that it was this rich, prosperous nation is just that: a myth. the reality is that around this time (the rugby match in the video), the majority of the world refused to trade with them due to their apartheid system, nearly shattering its economy. this is their return match, as they had been banned from competing in any sort of world event whatsoever due to apartheid, but were allowed to come back as it looked like apartheid was on the way out. it should be noted they were nearly banned again after the events that took place in the video, with the fans not only singing during the moment of silence, but the person playing the national anthem when they were specifically told not to. the rugby union threatened to ban south africa for life if they tried that shit again, and they finally observed the moment of silence. they were an isolated, stagnant economy that had little to no signs of improving, and they had just lost the war in angola, lowering their stability and the faith in the government even more. if apartheid didn't end when it did, there would have been a very bloody civil war, with an almost guaranteed outcome of which that happened in my own country haiti, where the whites were genocided. it was bound to happen eventually... thankfully mandela took control and prevented that. south africa has *never* been prosperous.
@@cjhero20yt82 see, what you're trying to do is say "hahaha see we were better, look at south africa now" and to that I'd say at least the modern day south africa isn't on the verge of a civil war after getting roflstomped in angola
@@hakim2546 because the numbers didn't work in their favour. don't you think they considered all the possibilities? the writing was on the wall, and they knew that if it escalated to all out war, it'd be catastrophic for their population... so they ended apartheid. also should be noted: by this time, a lot of white south africans were *ALSO* heavily anti-apartheid, and this was clearly relevant when they chanted for mandela when he made his first public appearance in the return to rugby match in 1994. the whites would've lost... plain and simple. the incompetence of the defense forces was put on full display in angola, where they got absolutely stomped... there's no way they'd be able to contain the very, very sizable population that would've been the enemy.
@@waahaah861 If the red scum barks in unison against you and calls for your extermination it only means you're doing something right ;) ONS VIR JOU SUID-AFRIKA
The thing is, the flag and this anthem existed before apartheid. They are not hate speech, they are not attacking non-whites! Take confederate flag or nazi flag for example, they are all about hateful ideology. Old flag of ZA however was just a flag which celebrated a union that gave a birth for a new country. And there is no violence in the lyrics of Die Stem, it's a beautiful anthem and I'd hope that people would see these things.
It didn’t cause a political ruse afterwards because it was the official (and only official) national anthem at the time. Nkosi Sikele Afrika was added in 1994, and in around 95 / 96 the two (Die Stem and Nkosi Sikele Afrika) were merged together, to form the current National Anthem.
It was still the official anthem, but it was assumed it would be discarded after apartheid was ended. The ANC saw it as a symbol of oppression and it was agreed that it would not be played at this match and there would be a moment of silence instead, and the RSA flag would not be flown . The crowd brought their own flags and and sang themselves, and they played the anthem anyway even though they were not supposed to. For this reason it did cause a political crisis, and subsequent matches were nearly cancelled
Right on. Also as an American, I have the new anthem pretty well down, but I haven't learned all of 'Die Stem' just yet. It's a beautiful anthem, but a wise Premier of a prominent province once said that people looking for an offence will inevitably find one.
Not sure how the commentator disagree with me? I had more than a lump in my throat at the time and still get tears in my eyes every time I listen to it. I am just reporting what happened namely that the incident did not go off well because it was against pre-agreed arrangements.
Rugby in South Africa is mainly an Afrikaner sport; it is central to Afrikanerdom and the Afrikaans culture. Die Stem is part of the culture, and were more so in 1992. Now South Africa is more of a multicultural country and the current anthem in five languages is more representative of the country as a whole, but don't take the Afrikaans verses out.
@cunibert01 It was tricky at the time. The agreement with the ANC was that no Anthem's will be played. The reaction afterwards was immense. So much so that the Aussie test (Aussie and NZ were touring at the same time) at Newlands Cape Town the next Saturday was almost cancelled. It was touch and go or it was cancelled and it took some serious negotiations by both the Aussie team and SARU to make it happen. I'll post some video material on it soon which shows the Aussie dilemma at the time.
Yeah why do you ask the same question twice. Raw emotion brow. Raw emotion elicited by the fact that it was taken away (not allowed). First time was SPONTANEOUS meaning with no music. Crowd didn't know the music is going to be played.
why was there 2 times Die Stem, can you please explain ? I mean, they sing before the national anthem also.. why ? And why was there a uproar after this ? :)
Yeah they play the beginning of the song, since its about the beauty of the country side. The last part is also taken and translated to english, and modified to sing about freedom and pride and not just pure nationalism Also this was in 1992 , there was a pre agreement with the ANC to not play this song during the match as apartheid was coming to a close, the crowd started singing anyway, and was elated after the anthem actually started playing where they joined in a second time.
Simply breath taking I can only imagine what it must have been to be there for this.... As an italian american I have taking part in a public singing of Die Stem on my bucket list..... And nothing in the song talks about oppression only commitment to hard work, Gpd, and your nation, all of which I believe in
I was born before this match took place but this is actually the first time I hear this anthem in a public occasion. I love both our old and new anthems. I can't say that I like the way things are, but if it's meant to be, so be it. I love South Africa from 'van die diepte van my hart' no matter what. Sterkte Bokke!
Oh sorry, i have nothing to offer as a trade off, i am from spain and here rugby is not so popular so i don't have any rugby videos, so no problem, i will not upload it, anyway i'll create a reproduction list of south african rugby and i will add your video to the reproduction list.
I love this anthem 🇿🇦 this pitchy to be the new anthem.... first bit of it is anc lol with all due respect to nelson Mandela....it’s not South African.....Mandela was as brilliant but time to ditch the ANC.....just equal democracy for all and equal Dis Stem for all 🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱
The NZ anthem being first played in Māori and then in English was first in the 2000 Tri-Nations, during a Bledisloe test played at Westpac Stadium. Before that, the anthem was played only in English (apart from the 1999 RWC match against England, where a singer Hinewehi Mohi performed the anthem in Māori)
It was sensitive time; they needed to stand firm otherwise they would never be seen/regarded as being in power. They reacted to show that they are not a gutless bunch and that they should be taken serious. How difficult is that to understand. It's like a teacher showing who is boss in the class room Use your brain.
This was the catalyst for the Australian team beating the Springboks a week later-for those of you who know and love your rugby one Nick Farr-Jones was viewing this game alongside Michael Lynagh. He was absolutely appalled at the reaction the minute silence got from the arrogant dutchy yappie contingent. He ran practises that week and reminded the team of that moment-great motivation for them to beat South Africa in front of their home crowd-good one kippernookers!
That absolutely has nothing to do with Australia beating South Africa. South Africa was on hiatus for a long time before these matches so they lost both to Australia and New Zealand. Australians couldn’t care less about Black South Africans and Nelson Mandela.
@MrSydneyKing. The old anthem was and still is a symbol of Apartheid. The agreement in 1992 during this match was that the old anthem would not be played. Fact that it was played a sign of disrespect. There is a verse or so in the new anthem as a sign of reconciliation. The old flag and the old anthem is a sign of disrespect to the changes and the new goverment almost like the Nazi swastika is something that is seen as perverse and a sign of clinging and promoting something that is seen as evil.
If you're Turkish I'm assuming you're muslim. Well the apartheid government oppressed our parents and grandparents, your muslim brothers and they treated them like dirt.
@@videoboer Don't come here with that kak, I'm well aware of what apartheid was all about, it was not about seperate but equal. If that was the case how do you explain events such as the Sharpvillre massacre and the Soweto uprising huh. Did your 'Boer' grandparents have to carry dompasses and did the police whip them in the streets! So fuck off with that shit. Despite the state of affairs at least racist pieces of shit like yourself don't have any superior status in front of the law. So if you don't like South Africa, then fuck off back to where your forefathers came from
Long story short boet, I am a white man, proud of it and any badge you stamp on me is your right, Ill take the racist one with pride and honor, I wear it every day of my life, and there is absolutely nothing you can do to remove that badge, its mine. You cry about this and that event, that is your right to cry about 50 years ago, and I will not fuckoff with any shit as this white man is too proud of his history and heritage. Oh, and lastly, I fucked off in 1994 and live in peace and harmony. Good luck my boy.
They quietened down when the Wallabies said they were going to boycott them if they ever disrespected Nelson Mandela again and the Springboks had to go grovelling to the great man to get him onside. This was an absolute embarrassment and showed the greatness of Mnadela because all he had to go is say the word to the Australians (who were the world champions at the time an they would have been punched back into the wilderness..
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The old South African National anthem is beautiful.
Agreed. I have a marginal preference for the melody of Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika, but the lyrics are nothing to write home about. I like the lyrics of Die Stem van Suid-Afrika, particularly the last verse.
@@Da_Big_G die stem is nice,but what it stands for and what it represents is a big 🚩🚩🚩
@@omo708 What happens to people with the red flag wtf
I like how it's mixed into Nkosi Sikeleli Afrika nowadays towards the end.
Beautiful? It has a specific verse in it for Afrikaners. It represented a 'white only' South Africa which is supposedly a republic. It's a disgusting racialistic song.
First time the crowd spontaneously started to sing it; because it was not supposed to be played. It was a form of protest against pre-arranged agreement with the ANC. Then on instruction of Louis Luyt it was played to the surprise of every one. The crowd joint in and the ANC went ballistic.
ANC destroyed SA
It's because rugby was hated by the ANC as a symbol of the oppressors along with die stem, but it was actually part of the white identity/culture and not a symbol of power over blacks to them. After this happened the ANC realized they should not get rid of them, and started promoting the "rainbow nation" concept instead. Therefore rugby came to be seen as a symbol of unity and reconciliation, eventually resulting in Mandela attending matches and die stem remaining part of the anthem
What a beautiful anthem, just hearing it is something special.
I'm an American, and I have an old South African flag in my house. The anthem "die stem" is a beautiful song even in English. My favorite part is "on the plains where creaking wagons cut there trails into the earth, calls the spirit of our country, of the land that gave us birth." Amazing.
And what do actually think of apartheid?
+Frankly Speaking Reminds me of the wagons in the US western treks
hankchifan nava So you don't think it was despicable?
The best part is "Calls the spirit of our country of the land that gave us birth, at thy call we shall not faultier, firm and steadfast we shall stand. At thy will to live or perish" it really gets me pumped.
Awkward it was the Americans who destroyed South Africa
The Afrikaaners' last mighty hurrah before the country descended into the abyss of third world mediocracy.
You mean before the unsustainability of the apartheid system caught up to the government?
What happened is that the ANC only agreed to the tour going ahead if a minute's silence was observed for the deaths of some people in nationwide violence the previous few weeks, and also for their no 'die stem' to be played because it represented apartheid. So the SA rugby union and govt agreed to that. Yet on the day, the silence was not observed as the crowd sung 'die stem' and then the stadium PA blasted out 'die stem' after the nz anthem. lol ...those were the days eh
some bloke from the np probably went "huehue dit sal wees so wonderlik"
Wow wish South Africans can sing the anthem like that. I seen it many times where only one half of the anthem was sung at different occasions (Depends on the crowd). When I saw this match on tv I sang with and was so excited. I always thought Naas Botha was a bad player until recently lol. I blame Schuster.
I don't understand why there is always such commotion about the old symbols like the old flag or ''Die stem van Suid-Afrika''.... Both don't promote Apartheid or racism. It are just symbols of the past..... The South African government must ban real racists song like: ''Kill the boer/kill the farmer...
Well said.
While they didn't deliberately promote racism or Apartheid, they didn't represent the majority. The current anthem and flag do. You're certainly correct about those anti-Boer songs though.
***** Well you're right about that Die Stem should't be the national anthem of SA. But trough it shouldn't be such controversial song. (at least not more controversial that ''Kill the boer)
*****
Pretty sure they represented the majority of the people inside the ground that day.
robicenco1 Not the nation though.
To me, this flag represents South African history and culture. You see the Oranje Blanje Blou, representing the Dutch Cape Colony and the Afrikaners' Dutch ancestors, the Union Jack to show the British Cape Colony and the English speaking South Africans, and finally, the flags of Oranje and Transvaal, showing their struggle for independence and self determination. There is nothing racist about taking pride in your volk, culture and heritage, and it's sad that it has to be seen in this way. And, for a personal touch, the flag to me represents order, when South Africa was stable. And the flag is simple, unlike the Modern Art of the new flag.
3 different flags muddled up in the centre of another flag? Simple my ass. Not only is it not simple, it's a boring old tricolour. New flag looks fuckin awesome.
As for everything else you said, all I can say is are the other races of South Africa not to be acknowledged?
Prins van Oranje
what about the black majority that suffered at the hands of that flag. what about the black people that were not given any say into how any of the colonies. waving that flag is like waving the Nazi flag. South Africa has moved on, so should you.
I can understand. It's part of your history and your country. Nothing wrong with that. It's no longer the flag of RSA but it was, for many years, and nothing in modern eyes can change that.
Sort of agree, but also it only represents some South Africans, they could’ve put that flag in the corner maybe of a newer flag or incorporated the colours
South Africa went to the dogs in 1994 and thereafter.
Ons sal lewe, ons sal sterwe, ons vir jou Suid-Afrika!
Listen to the crowd. They love it. I'd think that the majority would be whites (certainly the majority of the team are), and admittedly it would probably have been a pretty scary time to be a white South African.
+Jerram89 must have been really scary?
But the whites in South Africa themselves voted in a referendum to remove the Apartheid. If that referendum failed South Africa might be a different place toady.
A better place.
@Alfa&Omega 00000 I doubt that. In all honesty I think that bringing back the pre-1948 voting laws would have been best (only educated allowed to vote, and those who owned property). There were millions of Bantu people who immigrated in the 1970s, and the Apartheid government did not provide for them, meaning they were easily brainwashed by Communists, leading to the current political situation in South Africa. The 5.2 million whites had the power to say no.
Deloached
they were all white, black people were not aloud in the stadiums in 1992. Please stop acting like white South Africans were the victims. I am a white South African and i have been blessed with privilege all my life because of the wealth of my family, wealth which was gained from my parents going to university during apartheid, something which black people were not aloud to do. I am guessing from your ignorance that you are an American. pre 1994 might have been scary for white people but they were only scared of losing their white privilege. How about you spare a thought for the 69 unarmed protesters that were shot dead with assault rifles by white South African police officers, many of them were shot in the back as they ran away and 29 children were shot. Why is it that you don't think of the fear black South Africans experienced, being oppressed by a government that only cared about 12% of the population. why don't you spare a thought for the 14 unarmed black people that were shot dead by South African police officers at the Nonzwakazi methodist church in 1985. or how about you think about the 35 people that were shot dead in march of 1985 while peacefully protesting the killing of six black people by the police. or maybe think about the 700 students that were shot dead by police during the Soweto uprising of 1976.
I'm not even a White South African and I'm moved to tears by this anthem
I can't. I choke-up every time I watch it.
Absolutely beautiful I cry when I go back to these day of such a rich and powerful South Africa
rich? powerful?
please... under apartheid, south africa was a wreck. this whole notion that it was this rich, prosperous nation is just that: a myth.
the reality is that around this time (the rugby match in the video), the majority of the world refused to trade with them due to their apartheid system, nearly shattering its economy. this is their return match, as they had been banned from competing in any sort of world event whatsoever due to apartheid, but were allowed to come back as it looked like apartheid was on the way out. it should be noted they were nearly banned again after the events that took place in the video, with the fans not only singing during the moment of silence, but the person playing the national anthem when they were specifically told not to. the rugby union threatened to ban south africa for life if they tried that shit again, and they finally observed the moment of silence.
they were an isolated, stagnant economy that had little to no signs of improving, and they had just lost the war in angola, lowering their stability and the faith in the government even more. if apartheid didn't end when it did, there would have been a very bloody civil war, with an almost guaranteed outcome of which that happened in my own country haiti, where the whites were genocided. it was bound to happen eventually... thankfully mandela took control and prevented that.
south africa has *never* been prosperous.
@@derps8690 Ja south africa is the best nation ever now under anc
@@cjhero20yt82
see, what you're trying to do is say "hahaha see we were better, look at south africa now" and to that I'd say at least the modern day south africa isn't on the verge of a civil war after getting roflstomped in angola
@@derps8690 how would whites be killed the whites at the time had the army and all the weapons ?
@@hakim2546
because the numbers didn't work in their favour. don't you think they considered all the possibilities? the writing was on the wall, and they knew that if it escalated to all out war, it'd be catastrophic for their population... so they ended apartheid. also should be noted: by this time, a lot of white south africans were *ALSO* heavily anti-apartheid, and this was clearly relevant when they chanted for mandela when he made his first public appearance in the return to rugby match in 1994.
the whites would've lost... plain and simple. the incompetence of the defense forces was put on full display in angola, where they got absolutely stomped... there's no way they'd be able to contain the very, very sizable population that would've been the enemy.
The golden age of south africa
Ah yes when the nation was collapsing under left wing riots, outside pressure and when anti-establishment terror was at it's highest. A great time...
@@waahaah861 If the red scum barks in unison against you and calls for your extermination it only means you're doing something right ;) ONS VIR JOU SUID-AFRIKA
Christum Ferens fuck yes
@@Princeofbelka God bless ;)
said the nazi
RIP South Africa
Wow you'd never hear an anthem sang like this ever so much pride
The thing is, the flag and this anthem existed before apartheid. They are not hate speech, they are not attacking non-whites! Take confederate flag or nazi flag for example, they are all about hateful ideology. Old flag of ZA however was just a flag which celebrated a union that gave a birth for a new country. And there is no violence in the lyrics of Die Stem, it's a beautiful anthem and I'd hope that people would see these things.
It didn’t cause a political ruse afterwards because it was the official (and only official) national anthem at the time. Nkosi Sikele Afrika was added in 1994, and in around 95 / 96 the two (Die Stem and Nkosi Sikele Afrika) were merged together, to form the current National Anthem.
It was still the official anthem, but it was assumed it would be discarded after apartheid was ended. The ANC saw it as a symbol of oppression and it was agreed that it would not be played at this match and there would be a moment of silence instead, and the RSA flag would not be flown . The crowd brought their own flags and and sang themselves, and they played the anthem anyway even though they were not supposed to. For this reason it did cause a political crisis, and subsequent matches were nearly cancelled
Cheers from Sweden to Suid Africa!
Same here. Could actually be the best anthem ever also.
Sorry that Palme destroyed SA. Glad to see him killed!
God bless old South Afrika.
Hopefully not the apartheid too.
Die goeie ou dae toe ons trots was op Suid-Afrika. Vandag is ons eens mooi land n skande om in te bly en wetteloosheid en anargie het oorgeneem.
Got tears from hearing this. God zegen boere Suid-Afrika!
🚩🚩🚩🚩
Die stem is actually a nice anthem,but what it represents is 🚩🚩
I watch this every night before I go to sleep.
Danie Gereber, Naas Botha, Uli Schmidt...one of my best. Plus the old anthem xx
It still gives me goosebumps, a lump in the throat
Right on. Also as an American, I have the new anthem pretty well down, but I haven't learned all of 'Die Stem' just yet. It's a beautiful anthem, but a wise Premier of a prominent province once said that people looking for an offence will inevitably find one.
The real South African Anthem, when the country was in the first world.
The fake anthem, when the majority of REAL South Africans weren't even citizens
Not sure how the commentator disagree with me? I had more than a lump in my throat at the time and still get tears in my eyes every time I listen to it. I am just reporting what happened namely that the incident did not go off well because it was against pre-agreed arrangements.
Rugby in South Africa is mainly an Afrikaner sport; it is central to Afrikanerdom and the Afrikaans culture. Die Stem is part of the culture, and were more so in 1992. Now South Africa is more of a multicultural country and the current anthem in five languages is more representative of the country as a whole, but don't take the Afrikaans verses out.
@cunibert01 It was tricky at the time. The agreement with the ANC was that no Anthem's will be played. The reaction afterwards was immense. So much so that the Aussie test (Aussie and NZ were touring at the same time) at Newlands Cape Town the next Saturday was almost cancelled. It was touch and go or it was cancelled and it took some serious negotiations by both the Aussie team and SARU to make it happen.
I'll post some video material on it soon which shows the Aussie dilemma at the time.
Remember those beautiful words from Hugh Bladen after the anthems like it was yesterday.
This is my South Africa!
1:34 - New Zealand/Aotearoa's anthem
2:34 - South Africa's anthem
4:22 - The Haka
Miss these old bokke strips, man. The new high-performance jerseys just don't do it for me!
+Hermann Pretorius they don't do it for your team either
The new ones look gay
+Robbie Timo good come back
@@robbietimo6320 well we won the world cup again😂
@@gerritkruger4014 Yes even losing to the All Blacks on the way.
When people knew how to sing our anthem, now i have no idea what im even singing, and dont feel very proud when i do sing it
Leave mate
Yeah why do you ask the same question twice. Raw emotion brow. Raw emotion elicited by the fact that it was taken away (not allowed). First time was SPONTANEOUS meaning with no music. Crowd didn't know the music is going to be played.
can I upload this video please? :)
Agreed, my friend.
This isn't just any singing of the National Anthem, this is a farewell from all White South Africans to their country
Yes. I wonder how many of the crowd decided to leave the country?
Basically yes. I have seen many of South Africa's best and brightest leave to come to Australia
A goodbye of the racist to their privileges
we need it back💔🧡🤍💙
@@Makdoogle Apartheid? It won't be back
Wonderful
why was there 2 times Die Stem, can you please explain ?
I mean, they sing before the national anthem also.. why ?
And why was there a uproar after this ? :)
The crowd didn't expect it to be played at all.
Do you mean add to your channel? No problem. If you want me to send it to you what can you offer as a trade off?
Why did the playing of ''Die Stem' cause a ruse? Don't they still play a verse of this anthem today when the Boks play?
Yeah they play the beginning of the song, since its about the beauty of the country side. The last part is also taken and translated to english, and modified to sing about freedom and pride and not just pure nationalism
Also this was in 1992 , there was a pre agreement with the ANC to not play this song during the match as apartheid was coming to a close, the crowd started singing anyway, and was elated after the anthem actually started playing where they joined in a second time.
Simply breath taking I can only imagine what it must have been to be there for this.... As an italian american I have taking part in a public singing of Die Stem on my bucket list..... And nothing in the song talks about oppression only commitment to hard work, Gpd, and your nation, all of which I believe in
I was born before this match took place but this is actually the first time I hear this anthem in a public occasion. I love both our old and new anthems. I can't say that I like the way things are, but if it's meant to be, so be it. I love South Africa from 'van die diepte van my hart' no matter what.
Sterkte Bokke!
The most beautiful Anthem at World !
Proud men
At the time, the Maori part of Kiwi anthem was not sung
It starts at 2:33
Die stem van suid afrika was one of the best anthems ever. Just the anthem not saying that apartheid was good, it wasn't. I just like the music
Ons sal lewe ons sal sterwe ons vir jou suid afrika
yeah but why did they sing two times ?
i mean i would understand 1 time :)
The crowd weren't expecting it to be played, so they sang it spontaneously.
"Having observed that..." wtf?
a Minute of silence for the “unrest” currently going on...
Geez....
Afrikaans, Ons Trots💯
My mense. Ek moes eerder verby hierdie plek geseil het.
Gaan terug graf toe 😂
@TheSukram1976 amen
This now looks like the last hurrah for the Afrikaner state.
Good times
I'm really getting some Lost Cause Confederacy vibes from the comments.
@Ostrichfarmer That completely Afrikaner town?
Yep, so do I.
Anyone else come here from Wikipedia?
I went to Wikipedia after finding this
2:35
Oh sorry, i have nothing to offer as a trade off, i am from spain and here rugby is not so popular so i don't have any rugby videos, so no problem, i will not upload it, anyway i'll create a reproduction list of south african rugby and i will add your video to the reproduction list.
I love this anthem 🇿🇦 this pitchy to be the new anthem.... first bit of it is anc lol with all due respect to nelson Mandela....it’s not South African.....Mandela was as brilliant but time to ditch the ANC.....just equal democracy for all and equal Dis Stem for all 🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱
Die beste lands lied ooit afrikaans bo...die nuwe lied is some nonsens...eks trots afrikaans!!!
How come the NZ anthem is not first played in Maori?
The NZ anthem being first played in Māori and then in English was first in the 2000 Tri-Nations, during a Bledisloe test played at Westpac Stadium. Before that, the anthem was played only in English (apart from the 1999 RWC match against England, where a singer Hinewehi Mohi performed the anthem in Māori)
It was sensitive time; they needed to stand firm otherwise they would never be seen/regarded as being in power. They reacted to show that they are not a gutless bunch and that they should be taken serious.
How difficult is that to understand. It's like a teacher showing who is boss in the class room Use your brain.
This was the catalyst for the Australian team beating the Springboks a week later-for those of you who know and love your rugby one Nick Farr-Jones was viewing this game alongside Michael Lynagh. He was absolutely appalled at the reaction the minute silence got from the arrogant dutchy yappie contingent. He ran practises that week and reminded the team of that moment-great motivation for them to beat South Africa in front of their home crowd-good one kippernookers!
That absolutely has nothing to do with Australia beating South Africa. South Africa was on hiatus for a long time before these matches so they lost both to Australia and New Zealand. Australians couldn’t care less about Black South Africans and Nelson Mandela.
*1995
Ons ver yo suid Africa. Elke dag ver die res van my lewe
Vir jou*
APARTHEID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@MrSydneyKing. The old anthem was and still is a symbol of Apartheid. The agreement in 1992 during this match was that the old anthem would not be played. Fact that it was played a sign of disrespect. There is a verse or so in the new anthem as a sign of reconciliation. The old flag and the old anthem is a sign of disrespect to the changes and the new goverment almost like the Nazi swastika is something that is seen as perverse and a sign of clinging and promoting something that is seen as evil.
then vs nou se nkosi shit
i am loved apartheid from turkey
A DAY MY COUNTRY...A DAY YOU You will then taste cents apartheid my poor country
If you're Turkish I'm assuming you're muslim. Well the apartheid government oppressed our parents and grandparents, your muslim brothers and they treated them like dirt.
And if you were around they would treat you just as badly because you are not white enough
@@Skay6916 lol, and then there is the real story of why apartheid was used to seperate the blacks form us, just look around you today for the answer.
@@videoboer Don't come here with that kak, I'm well aware of what apartheid was all about, it was not about seperate but equal. If that was the case how do you explain events such as the Sharpvillre massacre and the Soweto uprising huh. Did your 'Boer' grandparents have to carry dompasses and did the police whip them in the streets! So fuck off with that shit. Despite the state of affairs at least racist pieces of shit like yourself don't have any superior status in front of the law. So if you don't like South Africa, then fuck off back to where your forefathers came from
Long story short boet, I am a white man, proud of it and any badge you stamp on me is your right, Ill take the racist one with pride and honor, I wear it every day of my life, and there is absolutely nothing you can do to remove that badge, its mine. You cry about this and that event, that is your right to cry about 50 years ago, and I will not fuckoff with any shit as this white man is too proud of his history and heritage. Oh, and lastly, I fucked off in 1994 and live in peace and harmony. Good luck my boy.
Ja JA JA SUID-AFRIKA
Hoeder!vleis!
APARTHEID I MISS YOU (1957-1994) R.I.P
They quietened down when the Wallabies said they were going to boycott them if they ever disrespected Nelson Mandela again and the Springboks had to go grovelling to the great man to get him onside. This was an absolute embarrassment and showed the greatness of Mnadela because all he had to go is say the word to the Australians (who were the world champions at the time an they would have been punched back into the wilderness..
Mandela was an ass who killed innocent whites for nothing
faggot
The new anthem a joke
Die stem is better
No, it's not
Cry about it
#buy bitcoin.