What Happened to the Old South African Flag?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
- South Africa's flag has 6 colours on it, while its former flag had 7-9 flags... within the flag. So what's the history and symbolism behind the flags used in South Africa from 1910-2024? There'll be Dutchmen, British, Boers, Afrikaners, South Africans, Stroopwafels and memes in this one!
Timestamps:
00:00 - 00:38 - Intro
00:38 - 02:10 - The Dutch Cape Colony
02:10 - 03:24 - The British Cape Colony
03:24 - 04:20 - The African National Congress
04:20 - 05:55 - Symbolism of the South African Flag
05:55 - 08:00 - Voortrekkers, Afrikaners, and Boer Republics
08:00 - 09:44 - The Union of South Africa Flag (1928-1982)
09:44 - 11:10 - The Apartheid Flag of South Africa
11:11 - 12:11 - The New South African Flag (1994)
12:11 - 13:22 - The Old South African Flag Today
13:22 - 14:33 - Outro
Music Used:
Eine Kleine Nachtmusik - Mozart
Midsummer Night's Dream - Mendelssohn
Egmont Overture - Beethoven
Sunday Dub - Kevin MacLeod
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Next people are going to ask "Why did Germany change its flag?"
There's already a Video for that
Germany has changed its flag so many times. Which historical era exactly are you referring to?! If you mean this current flag 👉🏻 🇩🇪, then this is nothing new to Germany. This current flag has a long history in Germany since 1848. So, it’s not a new design. It’s just a restoration.
@@cyrusthegreat1893Obviously the transition from the Brown Scum Bags to todays Germanys Flag which as you said was first flown in the German Revolution of 1848
@@cyrusthegreat1893you know what he means, (Austrian painter flag)
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The answer's pretty simple, dont Boer us with the details.
Hehehe
I get it, foreigners can't pronounce boer, they say it as bore when it is actually bu-oor.
😂
Very boering 😂😂😂😂
Boer is the Afrikaans word for Farmer
You forgot to mention: The current SA flag was made in one week's notice to serve as a temporary flag in 1994 for the interim government, prior to the election. However, a new flag was never made to replace it, and it has remained the official flag of South Africa ever since.
Woah really. So thats why we are a country of procrastination
I could be wrong, but I think you may be referencing the actual flag that flew during Nelson Mandela's inauguration
And people have forgotten about it, even with the national anthem it was not meant to be Enoch Sontongas - Nkosisikela I Afrika, that's was meant for the transition purpose not permanent,
What a delightful suggestion by the TH-cam algorithm! As a South African I must say that your pronunciation of Afrikaans words is *chef's kiss*.
Baie dankie! Ek is bly jou hier te sien! Welkom!
@@historywithhilbert146 Ek is bly om jou hier te sien*
@@historywithhilbert146 lees nuutste openbaringe van Judith de Beer, God se Woord van Goud nr. 1389, Afrikaans nr. 1649 ...;-)))
@@historywithhilbert146lol wish I could like this!
Hulle weet net hoe om ons dag te maak
My favorite flag symbolism is Bhutan's. The orange half represents Buddhist tradition while the yellow represents civil tradition and temporal authority, with the dragon between them to show their equal importance and evokes the strength of the sacred bond between sovereign and people. But the dragon is of course the coolest part! In Dzongkha, dragon is druk, and the country is known as Druk Yul or Dragon Country. It being white signifies the purity of inner thoughts and deeds that unite all the linguistically diverse peoples of Bhutan. The jewels held in Druk's claws represent Bhutan's wealth and the protection of its people, while the dragon's snarling mouth symbolizes Bhutanese deities' commitment to defense. Why a druk? According to traditional accounts, when the sect's founder, Tsangpa Gyare, 1st Gyalwang Drukpa, began to build Ralung Monastery, there was a violent storm. Thunder, or the "Cloud Voice," is seen as the roar of the dragon. Deciding that this was an omen, he named the monastery Drug-Ralung, adding the word "thunder dragon" to the name. The disciples were known as Drugpa, or "Those of the Thunder."
I also love the celestial globe on the Brazilian flag! It reflects the sky over the city of Rio de Janeiro in November 1889 when the Republic was proclaimed. Not only that, but each star corresponds to a Brazilian Federal Unit, so the flag has to be updated every time a state is created or dissolved. When it was first adopted, it had 21 stars and was last updated in 1992 to include Amapá, Roraima, Rondônia and Tocantins for 27 stars. So there are 26 stars for the different states, and another for the Federal District (the capital Brasília). The green and yellow on the other hand come from the previous imperial flag, with green for the House of Braganza (Pedro I) and yellow for House of Habsburg (his wife).
Hey kim
Our imperial flag is much more beautiful. Most of our state flags are generic and have no history. The Republic in Brazil is so bad that they didn't even have a flag, you have to copy it from the USA and then make a copy of the original
Did you notice that in the old flag, the Union Flag is deliberately upside down, so that none of the three small flags in the middle could claim precedence?
It isn't upside down, just flipped horizontally
I homestly coudlve never noticed that
As a black South African myself I love our current National flag, which I personally consider one of the best if not the best in the world and I can say most white South Africans love the flag and are very attached to it, I personally don’t thing the old flag is all that hateful as long as it’s being used in an educational manner, we have many great symbols in our country and for me they bring some of the most joy 🇿🇦
Great video by the way
Do you like load shedding? Institutional Ineptitude, poor infrastructure?
@@bobdollaz3391 What do you think his opinion on apartheid is?
He should miss it. The murder rate amongst Bantus wasn't as high
@@bobdollaz3391 That argument's more flaccid than your nads.
@@batrachian149 my nads are rock hard,
Complete honesty, the dutch flag bit nevergets old.
What do you mean
Even during F1
Same. I look forward to it on a lot of his videos lol.
@@jeffbob1776Everytime Hilbert talks bout the Dutch, he plays that flag bit at 0:43. It’s a running gag on the channel lol.
It's just a pity he's completely wrong.
I'm South African. Never heard it referred to as Die Seskleur.
How old are you? I haven't heard it, but 1) im not Afrikaans so wouldn't be hearing it in the first place and 2) it was probably called that earlier when it was considered "one of" the flags (say 1994-1996) because there's no reason not to just say the flag now...
@@ElleDiablo I'm 44 and spent a lot of time around Afrikaners.
I've only heard it being used once in like gr1 or 2 while we were learning about the flag and its meanings and then never again
@@dannyarcher6370 Me neither. I've heard it called a lot of names, not all very flattering, but never that.
@@GerhardtRoos And you're Afrikaans so would have been more likely to hear it.
Imagine going to school back then and had to draw the flag😂😂
Somehow I always think of this when I see that flag, must've been rof 🤣🤣🤣
Because it had to, it represented apartheid, pain and suffering for me.🇿🇦 This one represents unity
You were born post 1994 so what pain did you suffer?
This is such an ignorant question@@GerhardtRoos
@@GerhardtRoosstupid question
This is not how we were taught the flag in school. They just told us what each of the colours represent.
Nothing about the combination of other older flags. Interesting info indeed.🤔
And to answer the question about displaying the old flag, I do think it is a symbol of oppression. It should be kept inside the museum. As a child of parents who lived through Apartheid, it would honestly bring about PTSD for them.
There alot you can learn on internet then what school can teach
By far my favorite video by you
South Africa's modern flag is such a nice design
Too much
ugly old one is better
@@EKWEETREGTIGNIE at least we both agree it's "ugly"
@@itsnevertoolatetodotherigh3271 new one looks like every flag on earth the old one stood out with its vibrant orange and bkue and white coloura
@@EKWEETREGTIGNIE Nah the new is very distinctive, flags like the Mozambican, Kenyan, Zimbabwe, Uganda have almost the same pattern ..our flag is majestic doesn't look like anything else, while the old flag would compare with Nigeria's flag ohh and France there 3 colour pattern which doesn't really stand out,just say I like it because it once stood for what I believe, new one 🔥
As an afrikaaner who often has to suffer the ignorance of people who can't pronounce things right, I just have to say, absolute mad respect to you for going through the trouble of learning the correct pronunciation and getting it on point. Also thank you for all the effort you put into this, despite being afrikaans my parents gave me a very english upbringing, and now that I'm a young adult I realized how little the schools taught about my own and other peoples culture, so now I'm scavenging on the internet for the history of my people and my country.
As a South African, the video is approved of, the comments, eh not so much, julle poesse man
😅😅😅😅😅😅
Springbok flag from the 80’s is easily the best.
The new flag is much nicer than the old one
wow, that vertical tricolor proposal looks sick
Good video.
In terms of public display of any old flag is acceptable in an educational context at museums and historical monuments.
The Union of South Africa flag was created as a compromise as many descendants of Boers found the UK flag unacceptable after the Second Boer War. The Balfour Declaration in 1926 granted South Africa legislative autonomy, opening the possibility of a new flag. British South Africans wanted the UK flag, and the majority British Natal Province threatened to secede if the UK flag was removed, thus a compromise was reached with the three flags in the middle as the result, and the Prinsenvlag was selected as a compromise because they viewed it as politically neutral since the Prinsenvlag was no longer the flag of any nation. A further element of this compromise was that the British flag would continue to fly alongside the South African flag over official buildings, but this dual arrangement ended in 1957. As you mentioned, they unsuccessfully tried to remove the mini-British flag, and even after South Africa became a republic in 1961, they still kept the flag despite the country having left the Commonwealth (South Africa would of course rejoin in 1994).
I'm glad they changed it in 1994, not just because it's better representative of the people, but it looks much better aesthetically, and it truly stands out as a unique design instead of just shoving other flags in the middle. It's one of my favorite flags alongside Kiribati, Seychelles, Barbados, Albania, Nepal, Brunei, Kazakhstan, Bhutan, and Brazil. Kiribati's flag is chef's kiss. The flag is the expansion of the coat of arms of the former Gilbert and Ellice Islands colonial flag, like how the flag of the US state of Maryland is just an expanded version of the banner of arms of Cecil Calvert, the 2nd Baron Baltimore. The insignia was designed by Sir Arthur Grimble in 1932. The bird on the flag is a frigate bird which represents power, poise, freedom and Kiribati cultural dance patterns. The sun rising refers to Kiribati's location astride the Equator. It has 17 rays to represent the Gilbert Islands and Banaba. While the waves are of course the Pacific Ocean!
I see you in every yt comment section lmao
TLDR.
Boers are white colonisers who wanted to bring back slavery. Who cares about what they think
And where the hell have _you_ been?
Avery, I am so impressed by your knowledge but am not sure if you are American or Cuban but if you are American I am even more impressed. From my experience of living in the US many years ago, but even more so now, I found that most Americans did not even know what other States bordered the one they actually lived in. I am a Brit and South African (dual national) and must add that the current SA flag is the best in the World and that our anthem is even better.
I always look forward to your videos regarding anything Dutch, cause I love that Dutch flag gag lol 😂😂😂
I think from my past observations the Dutch are much more tolerant of our people in our land. The fact that Afrikaans dialect tags a lot of Dutch isn't representative of the Dutch people as a whole. There are still many fucked up Germans in this country and guess what I say them fuck you'll
"But not for long!" One of my favourite bits of Horrible Histories xD
6:12
great video
The post-apartheid flag of South Africa has to be one of my favorite national flags as a flag nerd. It's one of the few national flags that have 5 separate colors and somehow still made it work. It was a huge improvement over what it replaced. Honestly, the old South African flag was sort of slapped together, just taking the Dutch flag from the Age of Discovery and placing the British flag with two flags of the old Boer republics on it and sticking them in the middle, symbolic of the British colonial arranged shotgun marriage of the British settlers and Boers in South Africa. Not that I'm going to ignore the elephant in the room with the fact the flag disregarded the majority of native Black South Africans that lived in the country as well.
Like you said, it is the "rainbow flag" that represents South Africa as an ethnically diverse state with multiple origins, leading South African anti-apartheid activist and theologian Desmond Tutu to call a new South Africa "The Rainbow Nation."
6 colours...if you count white. 🙏🏽
I don't feel represented by either flag to be honest. The older one, well, has the British flag on it. I have to disagree with you on the aesthetics though. I think that the old flag wins best looking flag, even if it was presumably "slapped together. " The new flag is too colourful for me personally I guess.
@@suppiluiiuma5769 IDK, I'm generally not a fan of flags with other flags on them. It would be nice if Australia and New Zealand would change their flags. For one, both of their flags look too similar, and secondly, having the Union Jack in their canton suggests that the two nations are still British colonies and not soveriegn nations in their own right as they are today. It would be nice if the NZ flag had some representation of the native Maori population as well which still make up a sizable percentage of the population.
Are you planning in getting married in South Africa, Hilbert? The Wedding March is an interesting choice for this video…
Our beloved flag turns 30 tomorrow.
i would've guessed that the Y shape was due to the cross on the union jack. so they just used half
6:12 loved that Horrible histories reference😂
Hilbert good luck in finding the current flag of South Africa that has an orange/red combination! Flag manufacturers don't seem to understand as with the shade of blue in the flag of Tanzania!
Awesome thanks.
wonderful video, could you make one on the flags of the Boer republics?
I would also love to see that 😊
I love white people so much
@@AmandaCalvinNdlovu-sh2tvwhy you pretending to be black?
😂😂😂
@@AmandaCalvinNdlovu-sh2tv As you should, yes, because your very existence is thanks to white South Africans.
Amazing research.
research is nothin but kak ..!! our flag has nothin to do with the dutch or English flags ...our current flag speaks to the diversity or our country ,,,from what our country was to what it is now... this whole video is bullsh***....
🤣🤣🤣 Afrikaans people going ham in the comments, such a sensitive lot. This was a flag transition video with no hate intended by the content creator yet I see anguish comments
Thanks for the education
Context is everything, I think
As someone from South Africa, I’ve been wanting to figure this out for a while so when I saw this vid I got quite excited
Hey man previously watched your video on Afrikaans and as a kullid I was impressed. Wanted to find out if it would be possible for you to do a video on the history of my tribe?
i would self like to see that
I'm not sure if you changed it because of possible censorship, but i think it would be helpful to the creator to say "coloured" if they're not South African, coz they might not understand...anyway, awe!
Hey Hilbert! Does any other country flag have (be dominated by) a political party flag like this ? Thanks
Heel persoonlijk, ervaar ik een toenemende ergernis bij de onzinnige trend, om overal een muziekje onder te gooien. Helemaal wanneer het veel te groots/heftig (afleidend) is, dat moet functioneren als een simpel achtergrondmuziekje. Ik denk niet dat Mendelssohn deze functie in gedachten had, bij het schrijven van de Wedding March.
Verder louter lof voor jouw video's!! Zij hebben überhaupt geen achtergrondmuziek nodig.
i think that the castle of good hope should fly all the flags together to remind south africans of the periods and circumstances we have overcome
It changed from something to be ashamed of to something to be ashamed of 💅🏻
Well, the other one was worse. It had centuries to change its ways, but kept shiting its bed. This flag is young. It'll do better.
6:12 "But not for long"
Horrible Histories reference spoted
Thank you for doing video's about my country, our history and my language. 😊I have never yet been insulted or gotten irritable watching your videos where you speak Afrikaans, if I didn't know better I would have thought you a local. 😅 Your pronounciation is impeccable, I appreciate the research you always seem to do with the content, and enjoy the obvious interest you have for South African history and Afrikaans. I've said this in a previous comment on a video you did about Afrikaans, "knap gedaan".
SA went from a nation where the minority oppressed the majority, to exactly the opposite of that.
No one is getting oppressed now but racism still exists because of the European settlers
You sound ignorant.the minority still has alot of wealth,the have the smallest unemployment rate,go to the best schools,have the best health care.
Yes this sounds like so much oppression
Please do why France flag change its color?
Thaught I heard the National F1 anthem for a moment 🇳🇱
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Interesting is that Transvaal was never known as "die Suid-Afrikaanse Republiek" it was "de Zuid-Afrikaansche Republiek" the Union happened in 1910, when the British Cape colony, British Natal, Oranje Vrystaat and ZAR was united to form the South African Republic. The Oranje Vrystaat and ZAR was never Afrikaans, they were Dutch. Afrikaans only became official in 1925.
Ima saffer born in the eighties and this is a cool video about our flags.
It is actually pronounced "boo-r" (like a ghost saying boo and then the "r" like in room), - however many English speakers will say bore since it sounds more natural if they haven't heard the actual word being used before
Anyway, great video, thanks!
when i heard the dutch national anthem i just thjought of the 2023 F1 Season with Max Verstappen
What about the south asian origin population in South Africa? Don't they deserve some recognition?
I was wondering the same thing clearly they don’t rank power wise for some reason
They certainly do.
One could argue the same for the Cape Coloured community.
Coloured and South Asian people in South Africa constantly complain about being forgotten about by the predominantly Black ANC, although the ANC has historically had a number of Indian origin members and Al Jamah, the Muslim party in South africa has historically had a close relationship with the ANC
@@JL-ti3us they had special rights under the national party until 1994. Everyone had it better under the national party
4:12 why is the African National Congress flag in the wrong color order? Dankje.
Whether it is reversed or not, it is the the addition of the colours of Umkhonto we sizwe(ANC spear of the nation) into the old Boere vierkleur(old boer republic colours)
I guess they swapped the order of the ANC black/green/yellow/ so it would fit with the vierkleur green/white/(red-blue) instead of being black/green /yellow/green/white(red-blue)
I think
At some points in the video. They used Botswana 🇧🇼 flag as the background
Is the 68/69 I think sugestion not the basic idea of the current Dorp Orania flag?
Damn, I'm South African and didn't even know this.
🤍🙌🏾 This is beautiful work. Love this video and thank you for taking time to talk about my country, I learnt a great deal.
It's a mystery. How could it be that they changed the flag?
You speak Afrikaans so fluently dude. Teach me your ways I struggle speaking Afrikaans in school so I really need the help.
He is close with the pronouncing the words, but there are a few hiccups. So I wouldn't say fluently, but close.
I am a South African, I love my country and my flag too.
South African here, love your vibeos keep it up.
The old South African flag also included the pre-Northern Ireland Union Jack
Hello Hilbert. Who said all those old flags were a Boer?
This flag is like a flag nerd's dream. It is sort of pretty too, or am I just too much of a flag nerd myself?
My mother land btw im South African 🇿🇦❤
Your afrikaans accent is very good
I dont think this one needs much of an explanation
But how ANC got their flag
2:18 - Where my soutpiele at? 💪🏻
Welcome to fun with flags!! With Sheldon cooper
Ngl
I like the current one more than the old one!
Big ups for pronouncing Apartheid correctly
interesting
Thank you it is a nice flag
No one as mentioned about very old flag in 1909 of South Africa that look like more Old Canadian flag. and What if Cape Independence separate by language of mix Coloureds community as non White as Afrikaans.
I USED THE OLD FLAG AS A DOORMAT UNTIL MY CAT TOOK IT.
I wonder why. This was a bit of a bloody obvious one
06:12
Horrible Histories deserves a like matter what
You are mistaken. It isn't the Dutch flag that was used, it was the Vierkleur.
Have you ever tried to draw this new thing?? Impossible.....😢
Ah take me back to the good old days of Vorster and Verwoed🙄
Everything has to change in South Africa. Everything must be destroyed. 😢
I don’t know.
🤯🤯🤯 Why didn't they teach this in South African schools???
I'm glad South Africa changed its flag. The old one is unoriginal and just doesn't look as good. The new one is easily one of the most aesthetically pleasing flags in the world and is a lot better.
That is a matter of taste. The old flag was, and still is, the most beautiful flag in the world for me.
@@Hannodb1961 WHY!?
@@MatthewTheWanderer Having grown up with it is probably the root cause. My favorite flag designs is a horizontal tricolor with the lightest color in the middle, and an emblem in the middle. So, basically flags like that of India, Argentina, Egypt, etc. Then, the Orange white and blue combination is not only very beautiful (orange and blue being oposites on the colour wheel, therefore being a good combination) but also very unique. Most tricolours are either red white and blue, or orange white and green. South Africa had the only tricolour in the world that had the combination of orange white and blue, making it both simple and unique. I liked the historic flags placed in the middle, it was a unique thing to do, and it tells a story. I also like the way the three flags was organised in the middle. I used to experiment with lots of different combinations, but nothing felt quite so right as the way they were. One would argue that I shouldn't like the union jack in there, but I do, and I have no idea why. I tried to recombine it using different Boer flags in the same configuration, butbit just doesnt work. My giess would be that that is due to it being the flag of my childhood, and so I like it because I like it. But politics aside, I think the flag was simple, elegant, unique and beautiful. I would go to my grave loving that flag. Its quite a pity that people decided to associate the flag with a political ideology, that was actually something that happened post 1994. Before then, the flag was seen as a national symbol above politics.
The new flag looks like shit
@@Mabena430 WRONG!
great vid. they dont even go into this details at SA schools. lol
Cool video nicely informative, but I logged off when that racists flag showed up (you used it correctly tho: for educational purposes 👏 👏)
I think you keep using the flag of the republic of Botswana as the background
Have to Say I love our current Flag, It it Vibrant and bold like the People of South Africa.
"Why did it change" lmfao
No one ever calls it the "ses kleur" or the "reenboog vlag" your facts are not correct there. We did and still do call the old flag the vier kleur
Love our modern day flag🇿🇦
Amandla!!!✊🏾
Awethu
I think orange, white and blue would be better colors for the Netherlands. Red white and blue are just too common and almost every country uses the colors in their flag in some way.
F1 fans hearing the duch national anthem 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Fun with Flags!!!
Better question: what happens if you wave the Old South African flag
It's a crime sadly you be sent to jail for waving it.
That what I know so far idk if it's true .
I just heard of it.
@@ZentioArts strange, cause I understand about the nazi flag but the South African colony flag???
@@bullitzfromabove5376 yeah that part is still head scratching to me.
I love this video, manly because I'm South african
Is jy Afrikaans?
The old South African flag is and will always be my flag.. The only thing that has to go would be the Union Jack - that is the only part I never liked.
All i can say is we have a very distinct history apart from all nations 💯
U should do an episode on why the American flag changed!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
No that terrorist flag is ugly