What about when people have a deeply held belief that twists the way they see everything. Imagine a creationist or flat earther who hides or twists real science. They care about the truth but misconstrue the facts - all they want is to make reality compatible with their view of it.
I think that I agree with you. But there is an interesting discussion in Bad Language by Cappelen and Dever that gives me pause. They suggest that perhaps when we believe what we are saying is false even thought it is in fact true, then perhaps we are trying but failing, to lie.
@@josephcarcasole6039 I'm a professor, and I'd like to say that these videos are great and fill a whole wi-phi has left. (and I just by chance skilled the Cappelen book last week!). One question. Ego management seems to one way we might mislead other's about what we are up to, but it seems Frankfurt didn't specify what particular project we need to be up to in bullshit. So an unscrupulous used car dealer might tell me the car had only 1 previous driver (not knowing if it did or not) because his project is not the sharing of information but selling a car at any cost. Would you see this as a kind of ego management or something else? Thanks again for this great series!
Great question! Frankfurt addresses this directly in the opening of his essay. He says: "I am uncertain just how close in meaning the word humbug is to the word bullshit. Of course, the words are not freely and fully interchangeable; it is clear that they are used differently. But the difference appears on the whole to have more to do with considerations of gentility, and certain other rhetorical parameters, than with the strictly literal modes of significance that concern me most. It is more polite, as well as less intense, to say “Humbug!” than to say “Bullshit!” For the sake of this discussion, I shall assume that there is no other important difference between the two."
In the situation at the end the idea of bullshitting is interesting because it has no bearing on what is actually true or not to the speaker……UNLESS it is found that they are wrong, despite not caring about being right or wrong for the sake of truth.
Frankfurt claims that bullshit is a greater enemy to truth than lies. Do you agree? And what about the possibility of a true lie-what do you think?
What about when people have a deeply held belief that twists the way they see everything. Imagine a creationist or flat earther who hides or twists real science. They care about the truth but misconstrue the facts - all they want is to make reality compatible with their view of it.
I think that I agree with you. But there is an interesting discussion in Bad Language by Cappelen and Dever that gives me pause. They suggest that perhaps when we believe what we are saying is false even thought it is in fact true, then perhaps we are trying but failing, to lie.
@@josephcarcasole6039 Thanks for the _Bad Language_ reference. I just looked over some reviews and it looks good!
@@josephcarcasole6039 I'm a professor, and I'd like to say that these videos are great and fill a whole wi-phi has left. (and I just by chance skilled the Cappelen book last week!). One question. Ego management seems to one way we might mislead other's about what we are up to, but it seems Frankfurt didn't specify what particular project we need to be up to in bullshit. So an unscrupulous used car dealer might tell me the car had only 1 previous driver (not knowing if it did or not) because his project is not the sharing of information but selling a car at any cost. Would you see this as a kind of ego management or something else? Thanks again for this great series!
Wow this was great. Informative and easy to follow as well. Nice job
I would like to hear more about conceptual framework
I love the book, “On Bullshit.” I’ve learned a lot from it.
What would be the differences between bullshit and humbug?
Great question! Frankfurt addresses this directly in the opening of his essay. He says:
"I am uncertain just how close in meaning the word humbug is to the word bullshit. Of course, the words are not freely and fully interchangeable; it is clear that they are used differently. But the difference appears on the whole to have more to do with considerations of gentility, and certain other rhetorical parameters, than with the strictly literal modes of significance that concern me most. It is more polite, as well as less intense, to say “Humbug!” than to say “Bullshit!” For the sake of this discussion, I shall assume that there is no other important difference between the two."
@@LetsGetLogicalthanks for this reply. I'm addicted to your videos!
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In the situation at the end the idea of bullshitting is interesting because it has no bearing on what is actually true or not to the speaker……UNLESS it is found that they are wrong, despite not caring about being right or wrong for the sake of truth.
well explained. Thanks
Great stuff. Thank you!
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