I learned how to drive in a 1968 CJ5. I laugh when people say the new Jeeps are noisy, have a bad ride, lack power, etc., you guys should drive a Jeep from that era!! Its a unique vehicle for sure but that's what makes us love them so much.
I bought my 2016 jeep wrangler sport new have not had any problems, when I bought it knew I was buying a jeep.its not a luxury vehicle if thats what you want, don't bother. I love it! Wouldn't change it😊
You don't buy a Jeep for good gaz mileage, a silent ride or comfort, if you do, you are missing the point (and you didn't do your research). You get one for the experience, the feeling of freedom. Nothing beats having no top, no doors on a sunny day, nothing. First of all, a stock JLU (Altitude Sport) with the stock 255/70R18 tires you can get about 10.5L/100 km, that's not bad at all (that's what I had before replacing the tires). The tires that come with it are low friction tires and it shows. I wanted a more agressif look and replace them with the same size tires but got some BF TA/K02. Yes, now I get 13L/100km but I'm all good with that. If you go up to 35's or 37's, well, it's going to show, more rubber on the road and more weight, it's simple math. Interior wise, I have a 2023 and I really like it. Yes, you don't have the interior of a BMW or a Lexus, but can you remove the doors and the top on the X5 ? Nope, it's a win for the Jeep in my book. Ho, and yes, it's a noisy ride but just buy yours with the Alpine sound system, problem solved ;-) Like I said, do your homework, this Vehicule isn't for everyone, but I wouldn't change it, I just love this ride. Worth every caveat imo.
Jeeps are not for everyone. It’s a Jeep thing. We know it’s a brick we know it doesn’t have good gas mileage we know it’s a tent on wheels. And we don’t care.
I own four jeeps, a 06’ TJ Rubicon a 11’ JKU Sport a 13’ JKU Sierra and a 16’ JKU Rubicon. The 06’ and 16’ are on 37s the 11’ and 13’ on 35s. All re-geared all lifted and a boatload of aftermarket goodies. Not one of these I bought for gas mileage, comfort, or a Cadillac ride, but because they have character and personality and an awesome story behind their existence. Most of your pros and cons are accurate. Just not sure if it matters to the real jeep enthusiast. We go into it well aware of those issues but if you’re mechanically inclined and with a strong aftermarket parts industry, you can keep these things running forever, and most of us find it fun doing just that, it’s part of the culture. The newer jeeps have more electronics and become more problematic for the Shadetree mechanic to maintain and recently I’ve met a lot of jeep owners who don’t even have a toolbox, and have no interest in working on anything they drive, which is win-win for me and the rest of us looking for a lightly used less pricey jeep to modify :-).
I just purchase my Jeep and yes the gas milage is terrible but its a blast to drive. Its nice to take off the doors and the roof to get the full Jeep experience.
THE MOST FUN vehicles to me are Jeep Wrangler JKs. It's the perfect combination of rugged and tech. I love mine. I'm not trying to convince you that I wouldn't take a 2024 Rubicon, but I still smile everytime I get behind the wheel of my 2016 JKU Sport on 35s with a 3" lift and a hardtop. That's happiness for me. Good video with great points. 👍
The only bad points I can agree with are security and road noise, but beyond that, gas mileage, when compared to the V8 cars I've owned, is actually pretty good. And come on, you can't hold your mods against the Jeep! You lifted it and put on those big tires, so you wrecked its gas mileage, power, and handling, which, of course, isn't sports car like to begin with but than you bought a Jeep, not a sports car.
That's also why I said "smiles per gallon". If you see my other cars on this channel...they follow the same thing. You also can't compare the Jeep to V8 cars. Hell...not even most V6 trucks.
@thesuttongarage My apologies, I have only watched this video from you as it popped up when I was searching for videos having to do with the lift kit that I just got for my Jeep. I'll have to go check out some of your other videos, any recommendations?
I have a 2011 Mojave 2 door. Bad gas mileage other than that is a great vehicle. Been off road a lot and mostly on highway now Love it , the grandkids are in line to inherit it..
I know you caveated your statement about power etc to standard engines, but the 4xe Wrangler starts a LOT cheaper than the 392 and has 375hp and 470 ft lb of torque.
When folks ask about the gas mileage I get with the 392 I give them the same answer I give for the motor coach… if you’re asking that you probably shouldn’t buy one. It is a Jeep thing 👍🏼
I look at fuel economy and fuel tank size in the context of driving range. I live in the Western USA. And sometimes when I travel, fuel is not available at all hours. My 2023 JLU gets as much as 28mpg. The 8-speed transmission really helps in that. The JKU is not as aerodynamic as my 2020 Dodge Durango G/T AWD. But with the same engine, gets similar fuel economy. While I bought the JLU as an adventure vehicle to tow behind our camper. It may be used on it's own for trips.
I agreed what u said about Jeeps ...ive been Jeep owner since my uncle used his 68 Jeep CJ for summer cruises. My first Jeep was 87 Jeep wrangler and now on my 5th 22 Jeep wrangler JL Sargent green 4 doors ..and extremely happy with it .
I imagine if you're going to steal something from a jeep that has a soft top you're not going to think about the Zipper you're going to cut it open. I think that's a problem with any soft top car.
Last month I bought a '23 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport S Altitude. The fuel economy is comparable to my '20 Dodge Durango G/T AWD. The $50k sticker price did include a hard top, a/c, satellite radio, and several other upgrades. I bought the Wrangler to tow behind our truck and camper. That way we can keep the camp setup, and still explore around the area. All our current vehicles are 4wd. And sometimes the roads get icy. I do plan on installing Wavetrack differentials front and rear. Any gear change will depend on any lift and tire size increase.
I'd say you hit the nail on the head with all your points! Just like the Harley, when you buy one stock, it's a starter kit for years of smiles, laughs, and good times.
I love driving Jeep Wrangler around town in my 2023 Wrangler. Then I can get out of ice circumstances, etc... . I could go on an on how much pleasure driving a Wrangler around town gives me. But, you got the point.
I've had three Jeeps. Every time I trade mine in, I regret it and get a new one about 8 years later. Went from my Jeep 2-day Willys to a Kia Soul. Loved my Soul in many ways. It's sporty (I have the turbo), great acceleration, handles great, awesome safety features, except the low clearance of cars means I'm always scrapping up the ties, bumper, etc. I'm looking to lease a new Jeep (since I always tend to get a new car every 3 years) to get back to that jalopy feel again, negatives and all.
Hmmm lets see, Rough Ride, Streamline as a Brick, a Noisy Ride, and aftermarket Bigger Tires make less miles/gallon, Those are all Pluses +'s for me. However, you hit the Bullseye on the Price Increase for the new jeeps. A new Stock Jeep with a Hemi engine $88,000. That high price is a shocker for a Jeep; Painful. This price for new just caused all of our old Jeeps to increase in price greatly. You stated it perfectly. Carry On Sir.
Yes 👍 I agree with the bad. My wife was not happy with me when I purchased a new wrangler. But after she saw 👀 all the support, groups, and events we can do now. 😂 She loves it! And so do I.
If you don’t have the funds to keep a Jeep running, walk away. You’re not buying a Jeep for quality and reliability. You’re buying it to have fun(when it’s running) and the feeling of belonging.
Very true. And Jeeps are umpteen times more reliable than Series Land Rovers, but you multiply Jeep camaraderie by 10 and you get series Land Rovers and Defender (the real Defender, not the Discovery 6 joke they're trying to make you believe is a Defender) camaraderie, waving at one another going down the road in any part of the world! And with Jeeps it's more of a competition, with Landys it's a camaraderie.
Both my rubicons get 28-33mpg highway and ride nice as my ram 1500 and 3500 did and they both have plenty of power even pulls my 6k lb camper 65 mph through the mountains.
My 2018 jeep with 60k miles got totaled, I had about 2k on upgrades. I still got 36k from the insurance so it only depreciated about 14k in all those years...now buying a Gladuator Mojave. That's going to be the wife's vehicle. I drive a 2023 F150 Lariat. I'm sure that one will depreciate a lot more. I paid 52kfir the jeep at the time and added the altitude tires from a friend's Gladiator before they were available for the jeep, he sold my wife those tires and wheels for $700, plus gave her a hood cover. I added running boards as well a sub, and the hothead headliner, when it got totaled I removed the sub and cross over, but left everything else, insurance counted everything when quoting payment, I'm sad that jeep is gone, but luckily we were not at fault ( the other person ran a red light), and no one got hurt. So yes upgrades do count if you have the right insurance.
I have the 2 liter turbo in my Cherokee and jlu rubicon and it plenty quick. Both of them at different times had over 600 lbs of constant weight on them and i have 0 issue keeping 80 or 85 going up the mtns on i70 in denver on 35s . The v6 sucks but the turbo does not. You don't need the 392. Also you went from a jk ti a 2024 jl. The regular jl wranglers are a lot more modern than you are portraying them to be. The 8 speed transmission is a massive improvement over the 5 speed auto.
I love my 2 year old 4xe wrangler. It is a stock Sahara. I think it is actually a great everyday car. I plug in at home and only fill up every 1000 miles or so. It is also really fast with the torque of the electric motor. At least when I bought 2 years ago the price was not too bad with the rebate.
Incredibly expensive is the right word, despite the base models exist on paper, every dealerships in my area have msrp starting $47K. A well equipped one will run you at mid $50.
It is different because it originated as a military vehicle. That's why none of the others could "latch on" to that community feeling provided by a Jeep. Even after they bastardized them in '07 by adding two more doors, they still have the same basic shape as they originally did, and in most cases, only real Jeep enthusiasts can tell you the difference.
I agree with everything you said.....I traded my gas rubicon for the Rubicon Ecodiesel...total game changer. Mine is lifted 37s etc tuned by banks and I get 22mpg city....and just when they got it right they discontinued the motor.
I looked at the Rubicon, then the 392 and walked away. For the basic 4 wheeling I am looking at getting back into, wanting something with power, handling, and ride, I went with a Bronco. Liked the JW but … too little for too much unless I wanted to mod.
Many years ago, the vehicle I longed for was a Jeep Wrangler even though I never drove or even was a passenger in one, I just liked the look of them , Finally one day I decided to take one for a test drive thinking I was going to buy it , the one I took out for a drive had a V-6 with a automatic trans and soft top , I had great expectations as I pulled on the road but was quickly disappointed by the lack of power, another thing was the inside of it was loud as all the engine and drive train noise echoed from the floor that had little sound deadening material, the top also was noisy as the vinyl roof made a bit of flapping sound when the wind hit it, while on the highway I tried some accident avoidance maneuvers and didn't like the body roll and vague steering which I thought was dangerous , The ride was harsh like riding in a covered wagon from the stiff suspension and short wheel base and the seat was uncomfortable, The salesman was talking up the vehicle as I continued driving, but I was tuning him out thinking to myself , god this thing sucks! and hated it, After getting back to the dealer lot , I looked at a few used ones there only a few years old and all of them had rust starting on the frame or on the body, then I looked at the one I just took out for a drive at the sticker price and thought of what a rip off these things are, a pop rivet body that rusts and crappy ride qualities all for a ridiculous price , This would make a poor choice as your primary vehicle and they are too expensive to beat up taking them off roading,
YES LADY. A lot of fragile females dont like trucks for offroad. They are not built for only your comfort, but for.. OFF ROAD.. REPEAT, OFF ROAD.. REPEAT THAT until you get it. Duhh.
I agree with most of the negatives. Personally I’d like less tech in my Jeep, I think it rides fine, and my mpg is expected. I’d put the wave, the ducks, and the quasi cult behavior on the negative list. Parts availability, value, and being “the best tool for the job” is why I purchased any of my Jeeps. At the end of the day it gets me from point A to point B in any condition and if it can’t or conditions change I can make it work.
Good video and 99% true, however, I absolutely luv my 2door jk. Best car ever. And that’s only confirmed more when I hop into other friends bland cars. I think the price of the new ones is the actual issue.
Outstanding Jeep review, and pretty much for the most part unbiased explaining both faults and pluses of the brand honestly. Only one thing I don't completely agree because of the time frame. I'm a new 6g Ford Bronco owner (23 WildTrak) and with only about 3 years in existence I agree there Isn't quite as large a community for the Bronco as there is for the Jeep...for now. Currently we have Bronco Nation, Bronco off-road Rodeo, Bronco Super Celebration east & west, Broncos on the Bay, etc. We're getting there and pretty quick to. Ford has future plans to broaden the Ford Bronco nameplate to even more exposure. I hear a lot of Wrangler & Rubicon owners are trading in their rides for the 6g Bronco. Hopefully with the added (serious) competition, It will make Jeep a better vehicle.
I only buy old jeeps with over 100k miles. Old Jeep defects are easy to fix. When over 100k miles is mostly simple things like the rear window, the rust under it, the O2 sensor. Girls cant do even small repairs so they buy Old Toyota and pay thousands more. Dummmies..
JT JL have a better interior design with less plastic and the overhanging framed mini dash. You hit the nail on the head with the fun of driving it. Very few vehicles have that it factor.
All in all. If you ant a smooth ride, buy a Lexus. If you want something you can take off road Jeep would be a good bet. I have 2002 X and a 2017 Sport. love them both.
Too many toys on the new Wranglers, and the V6 is a joke. Get many looks when I drive my rust free TJ Rubicon on 33's 'cuz didn't want to change out the gears for 35's and yes, can lay rubber with no problem, with my 5 speed manual.
Almost every "good" point he made about the jeep actually has nothing to do with the vehicle itself lol. And to say that Jeep's fan clubs and aftermarket are miles ahead and bigger than any other car community is really stretching it. Stop trying to get validation for buying an unreliable box on wheels that is only good for one thing, just own your decision.
I’ve driven imports most of my life. I bought a Jeep a couple years ago and it’s easily been the most fun I’ve had with a vehicle. That being said, it’s also left me stranded on a couple occasions. It really is the best vehicle and the worst vehicle I’ve ever owned.
I honestly prefer the old XJ. The community for it is basically all mechanics and we're just trying keep them in the road. Like the XJ Preservation Society. One of the main things that drives me away from the wrangler life is the stupid ducks and the cringe angry grills. Lol
I own a 15 jk and I have to disagree with you on the power I'm more than pleased with the performance and the the gas mileage is ok but your right on on the ride
I traded in my 2021 4 runner on the 2024 4xe Willy’s and it was the best decision I’ve made I’ve owned 2 4 Runners and there will not be a 3rd period and this Willy’s make both of the 4 Runners look like **** and the 4 Runners 6 cin engine is like a pile of **** and doesn’t even have close to the power of this 4 cin so am I happy with the jeep lol ya 100% and now looking for a jeep for the wife you know his and hers lol what do jeep people say ? It’s a jeep thing you wouldn’t understand lmao
Its a shitbox when it is super stock and I love it lol. If I want you drive a luxury vehicle then just get something else 😂 and if you want to improve your ride then just empty every pocket (Jeep) 😂
@@CFITOMAHAWK i like jeeps though but c'mon for real? Japan !?!??! what?!?!!? there no 4runner in japan...guys i wouldn't listen to this guy its the hilux in japan man.... but hey we all need to start somewhere maybe you'll learn something
@@bobbyurbina4488 Jeep defects are easy to fix. The rear window, the rust under it, the O2 sensor. Girls cant do even small repairs so they buy Toyota and pay thousands more. Dummmies..
They are big and heavy but my wife likes them. They do look good but some 18" Methods would be my choice. Either way...we have tires that fit the width so they do just fine.
I’m really struggling on the Wrangler topic. I’ve found a new 2024 Rubicon with the basic options I’d like for $59,700 (dealer discount). Took it for a drive and even all the weird quirky stuff about the ride was fun. However, it’s so hard to justify the cost overall for something that essentially is a toy. I can afford it in the sense that the payments are doable, but even with 10k down and 72 months the payments are close to $1,000 a month??? I could buy a summer home for about that amount or even a rental property. Additionally, any good off roading spots are a few hours from my home and that 2.0T requires premium fuel??? Again, I feel like a fool but I still really want one even knowing that nothing about buying one makes sense for my situation. Finally, I can’t live with the idea of just buying a basic Jeep. Found a Willys that isn’t too bad for $50k, but at that point I probably would rather just spend the extra 10k and not have any regrets about why I didn’t go all out.
😂they are the best over others they are not bad on gas there better what's out there right now get a grip on yourself quit crying there's all kinds of roof types and all kind of packages
I had to replace the 3.6 for oil consumption issues. Which Chrysler has a service bulletin calling it “normal oil consumption.” Look it up. It’s ludicrous. No vehicle should consume 1 qt every 150 miles. 🥸
I learned how to drive in a 1968 CJ5. I laugh when people say the new Jeeps are noisy, have a bad ride, lack power, etc., you guys should drive a Jeep from that era!! Its a unique vehicle for sure but that's what makes us love them so much.
I bought my 2016 jeep wrangler sport new have not had any problems, when I bought it knew I was buying a jeep.its not a luxury vehicle if thats what you want, don't bother. I love it! Wouldn't change it😊
You don't buy a Jeep for good gaz mileage, a silent ride or comfort, if you do, you are missing the point (and you didn't do your research). You get one for the experience, the feeling of freedom. Nothing beats having no top, no doors on a sunny day, nothing.
First of all, a stock JLU (Altitude Sport) with the stock 255/70R18 tires you can get about 10.5L/100 km, that's not bad at all (that's what I had before replacing the tires). The tires that come with it are low friction tires and it shows. I wanted a more agressif look and replace them with the same size tires but got some BF TA/K02. Yes, now I get 13L/100km but I'm all good with that. If you go up to 35's or 37's, well, it's going to show, more rubber on the road and more weight, it's simple math.
Interior wise, I have a 2023 and I really like it. Yes, you don't have the interior of a BMW or a Lexus, but can you remove the doors and the top on the X5 ? Nope, it's a win for the Jeep in my book. Ho, and yes, it's a noisy ride but just buy yours with the Alpine sound system, problem solved ;-)
Like I said, do your homework, this Vehicule isn't for everyone, but I wouldn't change it, I just love this ride. Worth every caveat imo.
Jeeps are not for everyone. It’s a Jeep thing. We know it’s a brick we know it doesn’t have good gas mileage we know it’s a tent on wheels. And we don’t care.
It certainly is a Jeep thing!
I care, jeeps are garbage. Crystler crap.
jeep is for id!ot
I own four jeeps, a 06’ TJ Rubicon a 11’ JKU Sport a 13’ JKU Sierra and a 16’ JKU Rubicon. The 06’ and 16’ are on 37s the 11’ and 13’ on 35s. All re-geared all lifted and a boatload of aftermarket goodies. Not one of these I bought for gas mileage, comfort, or a Cadillac ride, but because they have character and personality and an awesome story behind their existence. Most of your pros and cons are accurate. Just not sure if it matters to the real jeep enthusiast. We go into it well aware of those issues but if you’re mechanically inclined and with a strong aftermarket parts industry, you can keep these things running forever, and most of us find it fun doing just that, it’s part of the culture. The newer jeeps have more electronics and become more problematic for the Shadetree mechanic to maintain and recently I’ve met a lot of jeep owners who don’t even have a toolbox, and have no interest in working on anything they drive, which is win-win for me and the rest of us looking for a lightly used less pricey jeep to modify :-).
I just purchase my Jeep and yes the gas milage is terrible but its a blast to drive. Its nice to take off the doors and the roof to get the full Jeep experience.
There is nothing quite like driving around in a Jeep with the doors off. No other top off experience like it.
We had one and had to Change Windshield 4x 🤦🏻. Did love it otherwise!
Idk but i love my gas mileage on my JL way better compared to a v8 pick up
If you think a jeep is nice to drive. You've never driven a nice car.
jeeps are garbage with or without doors
THE MOST FUN vehicles to me are Jeep Wrangler JKs. It's the perfect combination of rugged and tech. I love mine. I'm not trying to convince you that I wouldn't take a 2024 Rubicon, but I still smile everytime I get behind the wheel of my 2016 JKU Sport on 35s with a 3" lift and a hardtop. That's happiness for me.
Good video with great points. 👍
The only bad points I can agree with are security and road noise, but beyond that, gas mileage, when compared to the V8 cars I've owned, is actually pretty good. And come on, you can't hold your mods against the Jeep! You lifted it and put on those big tires, so you wrecked its gas mileage, power, and handling, which, of course, isn't sports car like to begin with but than you bought a Jeep, not a sports car.
That's also why I said "smiles per gallon". If you see my other cars on this channel...they follow the same thing. You also can't compare the Jeep to V8 cars. Hell...not even most V6 trucks.
@thesuttongarage My apologies, I have only watched this video from you as it popped up when I was searching for videos having to do with the lift kit that I just got for my Jeep. I'll have to go check out some of your other videos, any recommendations?
35" + tires never equal good gas millage 😂 stock the 3.6 gets as good or better than any other v6
I have a 2011 Mojave 2 door. Bad gas mileage other than that is a great vehicle. Been off road a lot and mostly on highway now
Love it , the grandkids are in line to inherit it..
I know you caveated your statement about power etc to standard engines, but the 4xe Wrangler starts a LOT cheaper than the 392 and has 375hp and 470 ft lb of torque.
The hybrid motors are really going to help the lack of torque in the standard V6.
When folks ask about the gas mileage I get with the 392 I give them the same answer I give for the motor coach… if you’re asking that you probably shouldn’t buy one. It is a Jeep thing 👍🏼
I look at fuel economy and fuel tank size in the context of driving range. I live in the Western USA. And sometimes when I travel, fuel is not available at all hours. My 2023 JLU gets as much as 28mpg. The 8-speed transmission really helps in that. The JKU is not as aerodynamic as my 2020 Dodge Durango G/T AWD. But with the same engine, gets similar fuel economy. While I bought the JLU as an adventure vehicle to tow behind our camper. It may be used on it's own for trips.
I agreed what u said about Jeeps ...ive been Jeep owner since my uncle used his 68 Jeep CJ for summer cruises.
My first Jeep was 87 Jeep wrangler and now on my 5th 22 Jeep wrangler JL Sargent green 4 doors ..and extremely happy with it .
I imagine if you're going to steal something from a jeep that has a soft top you're not going to think about the Zipper you're going to cut it open. I think that's a problem with any soft top car.
Last month I bought a '23 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport S Altitude. The fuel economy is comparable to my '20 Dodge Durango G/T AWD. The $50k sticker price did include a hard top, a/c, satellite radio, and several other upgrades.
I bought the Wrangler to tow behind our truck and camper. That way we can keep the camp setup, and still explore around the area. All our current vehicles are 4wd. And sometimes the roads get icy. I do plan on installing Wavetrack differentials front and rear. Any gear change will depend on any lift and tire size increase.
I'd say you hit the nail on the head with all your points! Just like the Harley, when you buy one stock, it's a starter kit for years of smiles, laughs, and good times.
I love driving Jeep Wrangler around town in my 2023 Wrangler. Then I can get out of ice circumstances, etc... . I could go on an on how much pleasure driving a Wrangler around town gives me. But, you got the point.
I've had three Jeeps. Every time I trade mine in, I regret it and get a new one about 8 years later. Went from my Jeep 2-day Willys to a Kia Soul. Loved my Soul in many ways. It's sporty (I have the turbo), great acceleration, handles great, awesome safety features, except the low clearance of cars means I'm always scrapping up the ties, bumper, etc. I'm looking to lease a new Jeep (since I always tend to get a new car every 3 years) to get back to that jalopy feel again, negatives and all.
Hmmm lets see, Rough Ride, Streamline as a Brick, a Noisy Ride, and aftermarket Bigger Tires make less miles/gallon, Those are all Pluses +'s for me. However, you hit the Bullseye on the Price Increase for the new jeeps. A new Stock Jeep with a Hemi engine $88,000. That high price is a shocker for a Jeep; Painful. This price for new just caused all of our old Jeeps to increase in price greatly. You stated it perfectly. Carry On Sir.
Yes 👍 I agree with the bad. My wife was not happy with me when I purchased a new wrangler. But after she saw 👀 all the support, groups, and events we can do now. 😂 She loves it! And so do I.
If you don’t have the funds to keep a Jeep running, walk away. You’re not buying a Jeep for quality and reliability. You’re buying it to have fun(when it’s running) and the feeling of belonging.
Very true. And Jeeps are umpteen times more reliable than Series Land Rovers, but you multiply Jeep camaraderie by 10 and you get series Land Rovers and Defender (the real Defender, not the Discovery 6 joke they're trying to make you believe is a Defender) camaraderie, waving at one another going down the road in any part of the world!
And with Jeeps it's more of a competition, with Landys it's a camaraderie.
I laugh at people who claim Jeep Wranglers are reliable. That's like saying a Yugo is better than a Bentley!
Both my rubicons get 28-33mpg highway and ride nice as my ram 1500 and 3500 did and they both have plenty of power even pulls my 6k lb camper 65 mph through the mountains.
Yeah if you have to explain to someone why you love your jeep they will never understand anyway 😁
I'd prefer the old CJ style interior. Flat metal dash with basic gauges.
My 2018 jeep with 60k miles got totaled, I had about 2k on upgrades. I still got 36k from the insurance so it only depreciated about 14k in all those years...now buying a Gladuator Mojave. That's going to be the wife's vehicle. I drive a 2023 F150 Lariat. I'm sure that one will depreciate a lot more.
I paid 52kfir the jeep at the time and added the altitude tires from a friend's Gladiator before they were available for the jeep, he sold my wife those tires and wheels for $700, plus gave her a hood cover. I added running boards as well a sub, and the hothead headliner, when it got totaled I removed the sub and cross over, but left everything else, insurance counted everything when quoting payment, I'm sad that jeep is gone, but luckily we were not at fault ( the other person ran a red light), and no one got hurt. So yes upgrades do count if you have the right insurance.
I have the 2 liter turbo in my Cherokee and jlu rubicon and it plenty quick. Both of them at different times had over 600 lbs of constant weight on them and i have 0 issue keeping 80 or 85 going up the mtns on i70 in denver on 35s . The v6 sucks but the turbo does not. You don't need the 392. Also you went from a jk ti a 2024 jl. The regular jl wranglers are a lot more modern than you are portraying them to be. The 8 speed transmission is a massive improvement over the 5 speed auto.
The guy is lying all over and bitching like a bithtt
You said it.
You buy for the experience.
True Story
The worst thing about Wranglers is the four door soccer mom versions, Wranglers are two doors.
I feel your pain, I wanted a 2 door, my wife bought a 4 door…
I have a 3.8 jk 2dr. Its a way too bad on gas with lift and 35” tires. And underpowered too. 😢
Swap the engine
I love my 2 year old 4xe wrangler. It is a stock Sahara. I think it is actually a great everyday car. I plug in at home and only fill up every 1000 miles or so. It is also really fast with the torque of the electric motor. At least when I bought 2 years ago the price was not too bad with the rebate.
The hybrid motors are really going to help the lack of torque in the standard V6.
I find it amusing that you complain about the "price point" when it looks like you spent more than that on modifications.
Incredibly expensive is the right word, despite the base models exist on paper, every dealerships in my area have msrp starting $47K. A well equipped one will run you at mid $50.
It is different because it originated as a military vehicle. That's why none of the others could "latch on" to that community feeling provided by a Jeep. Even after they bastardized them in '07 by adding two more doors, they still have the same basic shape as they originally did, and in most cases, only real Jeep enthusiasts can tell you the difference.
I agree with everything you said.....I traded my gas rubicon for the Rubicon Ecodiesel...total game changer. Mine is lifted 37s etc tuned by banks and I get 22mpg city....and just when they got it right they discontinued the motor.
I looked at the Rubicon, then the 392 and walked away. For the basic 4 wheeling I am looking at getting back into, wanting something with power, handling, and ride, I went with a Bronco. Liked the JW but … too little for too much unless I wanted to mod.
When you go to mod it is hard to beat the Jeep. If you aren't going to...the Bronco is a great option.
Many years ago, the vehicle I longed for was a Jeep Wrangler even though I never drove or even was a passenger in one, I just liked the look of them , Finally one day I decided to take one for a test drive thinking I was going to buy it , the one I took out for a drive had a V-6 with a automatic trans and soft top , I had great expectations as I pulled on the road but was quickly disappointed by the lack of power, another thing was the inside of it was loud as all the engine and drive train noise echoed from the floor that had little sound deadening material, the top also was noisy as the vinyl roof made a bit of flapping sound when the wind hit it, while on the highway I tried some accident avoidance maneuvers and didn't like the body roll and vague steering which I thought was dangerous , The ride was harsh like riding in a covered wagon from the stiff suspension and short wheel base and the seat was uncomfortable, The salesman was talking up the vehicle as I continued driving, but I was tuning him out thinking to myself , god this thing sucks! and hated it, After getting back to the dealer lot , I looked at a few used ones there only a few years old and all of them had rust starting on the frame or on the body, then I looked at the one I just took out for a drive at the sticker price and thought of what a rip off these things are, a pop rivet body that rusts and crappy ride qualities all for a ridiculous price , This would make a poor choice as your primary vehicle and they are too expensive to beat up taking them off roading,
YES LADY. A lot of fragile females dont like trucks for offroad. They are not built for only your comfort, but for.. OFF ROAD.. REPEAT, OFF ROAD.. REPEAT THAT until you get it. Duhh.
So with all that said, which color did you pick?
@@trynsurviven2440 I really can't remember
@@bluemouse5039 Pink. LOL..
I agree with most of the negatives. Personally I’d like less tech in my Jeep, I think it rides fine, and my mpg is expected. I’d put the wave, the ducks, and the quasi cult behavior on the negative list. Parts availability, value, and being “the best tool for the job” is why I purchased any of my Jeeps. At the end of the day it gets me from point A to point B in any condition and if it can’t or conditions change I can make it work.
Good video and 99% true, however, I absolutely luv my 2door jk. Best car ever. And that’s only confirmed more when I hop into other friends bland cars. I think the price of the new ones is the actual issue.
It does provide a very unique and positive experience!
You cannot OutElvis Elvis.. And you cannot OutJeep A Jeep. Copycats are crap.
Hmmm… Seems subjective. No complaints here.
Outstanding Jeep review, and pretty much for the most part unbiased explaining both faults and pluses of the brand honestly.
Only one thing I don't completely agree because of the time frame. I'm a new 6g Ford Bronco owner (23 WildTrak) and with only about 3 years in existence I agree there Isn't quite as large a community for the Bronco as there is for the Jeep...for now. Currently we have Bronco Nation, Bronco off-road Rodeo, Bronco Super Celebration east & west, Broncos on the Bay, etc. We're getting there and pretty quick to. Ford has future plans to broaden the Ford Bronco nameplate to even more exposure. I hear a lot of Wrangler & Rubicon owners are trading in their rides for the 6g Bronco.
Hopefully with the added (serious) competition, It will make Jeep a better vehicle.
I only buy old jeeps with over 100k miles. Old Jeep defects are easy to fix. When over 100k miles is mostly simple things like the rear window, the rust under it, the O2 sensor. Girls cant do even small repairs so they buy Old Toyota and pay thousands more. Dummmies..
JT JL have a better interior design with less plastic and the overhanging framed mini dash. You hit the nail on the head with the fun of driving it. Very few vehicles have that it factor.
Also way better handling and gas mileage
All in all. If you ant a smooth ride, buy a Lexus. If you want something you can take off road Jeep would be a good bet. I have 2002 X and a 2017 Sport. love them both.
Great video, 2013 jeep rubicon ya!
Too many toys on the new Wranglers, and the V6 is a joke. Get many looks when I drive my rust free TJ Rubicon on 33's 'cuz didn't want to change out the gears for 35's and yes, can lay rubber with no problem, with my 5 speed manual.
The 4.0L straight 6 was a better motor...and you couldn't kill them if you tried.
I love my gladiator turbo diesel its a pretty good compromise
Almost every "good" point he made about the jeep actually has nothing to do with the vehicle itself lol. And to say that Jeep's fan clubs and aftermarket are miles ahead and bigger than any other car community is really stretching it. Stop trying to get validation for buying an unreliable box on wheels that is only good for one thing, just own your decision.
I agree!!!! Liked and Subscribed!
I love my '97 Wrangler TJ.
Well... I appreciate your honesty. This car is like a cockroach, it's atrocious but can't be killed. It's irrational but loved.
So true. It's great and horrible at the same time.
I’ve driven imports most of my life. I bought a Jeep a couple years ago and it’s easily been the most fun I’ve had with a vehicle. That being said, it’s also left me stranded on a couple occasions. It really is the best vehicle and the worst vehicle I’ve ever owned.
I honestly prefer the old XJ. The community for it is basically all mechanics and we're just trying keep them in the road. Like the XJ Preservation Society. One of the main things that drives me away from the wrangler life is the stupid ducks and the cringe angry grills. Lol
Can’t disagree there. 1. Don’t mess with the grill. 2. Don’t lay random crap on my vehicle.
I own a 15 jk and I have to disagree with you on the power I'm more than pleased with the performance and the the gas mileage is ok but your right on on the ride
So buy an Station Wagon for you instead. Duhhh.
I have a 2018 jl rubicon. Worst new car ive ever owned. Id ditch mine if i could.
I must have gotten lucky because my 2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited is the exact opposite of all the negative claims you made!🤔
Lol hes talking about the jk before 2018 once ford came out with the off road version of the bronco, Chrysler motors really upgraded the wrangler
Love my Jeep but cry at the pump ⛽
My 2021 Honda Passport has the same gas mileage as my 2018 JL. JL is not that bad, I get about 20 mpg average on it.
An over priced, worst reliablity, bad gas mileage...just to be in a group of jeep owners community who also got scammed...welcome to the club😂😂😂
I traded in my 2021 4 runner on the 2024 4xe Willy’s and it was the best decision I’ve made I’ve owned 2 4 Runners and there will not be a 3rd period and this Willy’s make both of the 4 Runners look like **** and the 4 Runners 6 cin engine is like a pile of **** and doesn’t even have close to the power of this 4 cin so am I happy with the jeep lol ya 100% and now looking for a jeep for the wife you know his and hers lol what do jeep people say ? It’s a jeep thing you wouldn’t understand lmao
Its a shitbox when it is super stock and I love it lol. If I want you drive a luxury vehicle then just get something else 😂 and if you want to improve your ride then just empty every pocket (Jeep) 😂
4runner has a huge community .. lol so does land cruiser espically the 80's series
HUGE? WHERE? Sounds like Bullshit. Never as big as Jeep except in Japan maybe.
@@CFITOMAHAWK this guy lives under a rock or under his jeep b/c u need to repair it all the time lmao
@@CFITOMAHAWK i like jeeps though but c'mon for real? Japan !?!??! what?!?!!? there no 4runner in japan...guys i wouldn't listen to this guy its the hilux in japan man.... but hey we all need to start somewhere maybe you'll learn something
@@bobbyurbina4488 Jeep defects are easy to fix. The rear window, the rust under it, the O2 sensor. Girls cant do even small repairs so they buy Toyota and pay thousands more. Dummmies..
very fair
Jeep forever!!
Jeep rocks!🎉
I CANT DISAGREE,,, PRETTY MUCH ALL SAID IN A NUTSHELL 👍
There are Jeeps out there that the only "Jeep" part left is the grill and the tailgate.
Bullshit.
I've never been ducked. :(
Worst? One word, Yugo
You might want to buy a Bronco and grab a Bud-light while you’re at it…
Ooohh… Burn… Do you feel better now?
haha! I guess you didn't watch the entire video.
I think a Bronco is worse than a Bud light…at least bud light is a real beer but a new Bronco is a total fake,
Oh….. and great 4x4 rims…. 😂
They are big and heavy but my wife likes them. They do look good but some 18" Methods would be my choice. Either way...we have tires that fit the width so they do just fine.
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I’m really struggling on the Wrangler topic. I’ve found a new 2024 Rubicon with the basic options I’d like for $59,700 (dealer discount). Took it for a drive and even all the weird quirky stuff about the ride was fun. However, it’s so hard to justify the cost overall for something that essentially is a toy. I can afford it in the sense that the payments are doable, but even with 10k down and 72 months the payments are close to $1,000 a month??? I could buy a summer home for about that amount or even a rental property. Additionally, any good off roading spots are a few hours from my home and that 2.0T requires premium fuel??? Again, I feel like a fool but I still really want one even knowing that nothing about buying one makes sense for my situation. Finally, I can’t live with the idea of just buying a basic Jeep. Found a Willys that isn’t too bad for $50k, but at that point I probably would rather just spend the extra 10k and not have any regrets about why I didn’t go all out.
It will get old
agree with absolutely everything you said !!!!!😂😂😂
😂they are the best over others they are not bad on gas there better what's out there right now get a grip on yourself quit crying there's all kinds of roof types and all kind of packages
jeep are trash cans with wheels
You should get roasted.
Hummer better
Jeeps are the best off-roader you can buy but also simultaneously because of the build quality/reliability its the worst
I had to replace the 3.6 for oil consumption issues. Which Chrysler has a service bulletin calling it “normal oil consumption.” Look it up. It’s ludicrous. No vehicle should consume 1 qt every 150 miles. 🥸