Keep in mind that Brago can't target Diplomatic Immunity since it has shroud itself. It is pretty good in Brago if you never plan on targeting Brago, or Diplomatic Immunity with Brago's triggered ability.
Honestly that rule is so dumb and should be changed..... Not because it is broken (though iv been reality acid'ed enough to hate it for that alone) but because it doesn't make any sense. If casting the aura requires that you target /have a legal target that means the act of casting gives the target. If it enters without casting it should then just fizzle and go to the graveyard because it didn't have a target so it is not enchanting anything which is illegal. It's like saying if you give everything shroud you can ignore shroud and literally no one would think that is the case. Why auras would have his rule makes no sense..... That's why half of the cards that mass reanimates enchantments makes non auras enter first then auras. Cause then you might bring back an Enchantment creature who could be the target of the auras.
@@connergish9060 Actually, I think this makes perfect sense. When you cast an aura, you must select a target as you are casting it, and if that target dies on the stack, the aura fizzles. However, when you bring an aura into play without casting it, it can be attached to a creature you control, but it does so without targeting. This is why it gets around shroud. That said, if a creature and an aura enter at the same time (Brago's blink effect as an example where this might happen.) that aura cannot be attached to a creature that entered at the same time as it did. It must be attached to a creature that already existed as it's entering the battlefield. The reason for this is that the aura comes back attached to a creature, it's not like it enters then you select what creature it attaches to. Anyway, this is why the design makes sense.
@@navo6283 I'd still argue that it shouldn't work (not a confusion of how it actually works.... Just disagreement with how it is currently ruled) . So by the logic of this rule you are ALWAYS choosing and can ignore shroud. Reading the card should explain the card in all situations. If the phrase "enchant creature" means "enchant target creature" it should read as such and not be implied by the rule which isn't written in the card. So either auras must ALWAYS be targeted or NEVER targeted. None of this sometimes this sometimes that. Either it always etbs then you choose what to attach to (functionally the same as flickering now but in every case.... Including casting) or it requires a target... Meaning it can ONLY function if cast or put onto the battlefield by an effect that explicitly attaches it to a creature. This half and half ruling reeks of someone making a card for the game and realizing their card didn't work as intended so they gave a nonsense reason why it would. Again is not that i don't get how it works I just think it is dumb and things SHOULD be consistent. I have similar feelings about the particular interactions between trample, indestructible, damage increasing replacement effects, and deathtouch. It is inconsistent with whether the damage can "see the future" or not. short version. If replacement effects changing damage cannot be applied with the knowledge of the change in mind deathtouch shouldn't be able to assign 1 dmg and move on, because that implies that it can see the future and know that the type of dmg is deathtouch before it is actually applied. And as for the argument that any amount is lethal so you have assigned lethal and move on..... Then you shouldn't be able to trample over indestructible because no amount of damage will ever be lethal and the trample damage should be able to see the future like deathtouch and be forced to continue adding dmg to the indestructible target since they will never reach lethal. It's just inconsistent. Not confusing..... I just feel like cards shouldn't behave differently in different places and that similar rules (rules related to damage assignments) shouldn't change how they behave individually.... Either all one way or another and it is just a personal gripe of mine
I main Lavinia. I tried Dream Halls a while back. The deck plays a lot of colorless cards and the commander doesn’t have card advantage on her. Most of the 99 is used for stax and land hate rather than card draw. When Lavinia is removed it becomes an enabler for your opponents.
For some reason you are reminding me Mack from Is It Worth a Buy channel. You are like one the last bastions of inteligent and helpful content creators in Gaming/Mtg review industry. (Plus Prof.) Great video again. Thank you and keep it comming.
Love to see Dingus Staff here. One of my Favorite cards. I run Dingus in my Diaochan chaos/control deck and in my Gisa, Glorious Ressurector deck. And Dingus is an absolutely MONSTER on the table
So many cards you mention have been great fits for The Mimeoplasm! (Side note: very fun commander you don't really see anymore...) Also, Dingus Staff works well in any deck that's pressuring life totals, like Gisela.
Dragonlair Spider is in my insect tribal deck for obvious reaons. Xira Arien's Jund colours is amazing for giving me access to stuff like this, it was my first deck were the commander was enabling the colourless rather then a deck built around a specifically strong commander.
I wanted to mention two cards that are not too often used in Commander that I think would be a great addition to your series is Thassa's Devourer, and Grim Guardian.
I run Dimir Doppelganger in my Sidisi mill deck to exile creatures from my opponent's graveyard when I mill. I run Dire Undercurrents in my Alela faerie tribal deck. Each time I cast an artifact, or enchantment I get a blue faerie, so I draw a card. It literally translates as "I cast an artifact/enchantment, I make a faerie, I draw a card". It's a really good fit. Plus I run Oona and Bitterblossom to make use of the black side of the card.
Dire Undercurrents is so good. I have it in my Skeleton Ship "Sea/Ship" themed deck. This plus Master of Waves or Homarid Spawning Bed is some serious cards. As an instant I've used Seahunter to bring in Master of Waves to draw 10+ cards off of all those elementals entering the battlefield.
Dreams of the dead can be used in any deck that wants to mess around with text changing effects. This can then bring back blue creatures, and your death grip or life force can counter your opponents red spells for example.
Dingus Staff is rather interesting. I'm not too sure what deck I'd put it in, but cool effect, something worth remembering. Diplomatic Immunity is really great in the right deck, I'd never take it out of my Grand Arbiter deck.
Dream Halls is really funny, if you can use it more than your opponents. Dreams of the Dead is a great card! I use it in my Kenrith deck (bends&breaks) and it's so interesting!
Obstinate Baloth and friends seem like good inclusions. There are so many wheel and discard effects getting played that getting big dudes with essentially Madness {0} seems great
Dingus staff triggers whenever a creature dies. Tokens still die - they still "enter the graveyard" - but they cease to exist the next time state-based actions are checked.
I had dracoplasm in a deck with leyline of anticipation and phyrexian dreadnaught. Turn 2 or 3 I would play the dreadnaught then flash dracoplasm out to eat the dreadnaught and now I have a 12/12 flying turn 2. It wasn’t edh but I have fond memories of iy
If Dreams of the Dead worked the way you said, where you could exile the creature you brought back with a blink spell, then you've also forgotten Miss meadow witch who was hybrid blue and white and has the ability 2UW: Exile target creature you control. Return that creature to the battlefield at end of turn. The problem is, exiling a creature causes it to leave the battlefield, so that would still trigger Dreams of the Dead's effect.
Saw the video now. Nice take on it on Aristocrats! I use it in an Aminatou blink deck, as you mentioned, the effect is very strong for a 2 mana instant speed ability, and having the option of blinking it to get an etb for a second time and keep the creature feels great
"Diplomatic Immunity is good in a Zur deck." Are you implying Diplo wasn't possibly literally the first card I added when I started building a Zur deck? :P Also, I know what you meant, but gotta love being at a point where somebody can be like "Drawing cards feels more like a green effect than a blue one."
Stack question: if I have Dingus Staff out and my opponent has a lot of artefact creatures out, then I play a Bane of Progress destroying every artefact on the battlefield (including Dingus Staff), does Dingus Staff's damages to my opponent trigger before it is destroyed?
yes. dingus staff will see everything go to the graveyard. just like if you had a blood artist and someone boardwiped, you would get all those triggers.
We call each other Dingus Staff in our house during petty arguments. It might have had to do with my Rakdos LD deck running both Egg and Staff, shaman and liquimetal to kill my SO’s small creatures… So all and all underplayed card and a fun insult during name calling.
Are we sure about that interpretation for dreams of the dead? It says leave the battlefield, exile instead. So wouldn't an exile effect trigger it, but then replace it with a different exile effect that DOESN'T have the return to battlefield clause on it... feel like it would only work the way you said if the errata on it reads "if it dies" Nvm: just read the ruling, it works as you said....sorry for questioning you Demo....lol
i'm sure - "If a creature returned to the battlefield with Dreams of the Dead would leave the battlefield for any reason, it’s exiled instead - unless the spell or ability that’s causing the creature to leave the battlefield is actually trying to exile it! In that case, it succeeds at exiling it. If it later returns the creature card to the battlefield (as Oblivion Ring or Flickerwisp might, for example), the creature card will return to the battlefield as a new object with no relation to its previous existence."
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The whole "enchantments entering don't target" rule was so mind boggling to me when I built Brago a few years ago. Love Diplomatic Immunity.
currently polishing my voltron brago deck: very useful info
Keep in mind that Brago can't target Diplomatic Immunity since it has shroud itself. It is pretty good in Brago if you never plan on targeting Brago, or Diplomatic Immunity with Brago's triggered ability.
Honestly that rule is so dumb and should be changed..... Not because it is broken (though iv been reality acid'ed enough to hate it for that alone) but because it doesn't make any sense.
If casting the aura requires that you target /have a legal target that means the act of casting gives the target. If it enters without casting it should then just fizzle and go to the graveyard because it didn't have a target so it is not enchanting anything which is illegal. It's like saying if you give everything shroud you can ignore shroud and literally no one would think that is the case. Why auras would have his rule makes no sense..... That's why half of the cards that mass reanimates enchantments makes non auras enter first then auras. Cause then you might bring back an Enchantment creature who could be the target of the auras.
@@connergish9060 Actually, I think this makes perfect sense. When you cast an aura, you must select a target as you are casting it, and if that target dies on the stack, the aura fizzles. However, when you bring an aura into play without casting it, it can be attached to a creature you control, but it does so without targeting. This is why it gets around shroud. That said, if a creature and an aura enter at the same time (Brago's blink effect as an example where this might happen.) that aura cannot be attached to a creature that entered at the same time as it did. It must be attached to a creature that already existed as it's entering the battlefield. The reason for this is that the aura comes back attached to a creature, it's not like it enters then you select what creature it attaches to. Anyway, this is why the design makes sense.
@@navo6283 I'd still argue that it shouldn't work (not a confusion of how it actually works.... Just disagreement with how it is currently ruled) . So by the logic of this rule you are ALWAYS choosing and can ignore shroud. Reading the card should explain the card in all situations. If the phrase "enchant creature" means "enchant target creature" it should read as such and not be implied by the rule which isn't written in the card.
So either auras must ALWAYS be targeted or NEVER targeted. None of this sometimes this sometimes that. Either it always etbs then you choose what to attach to (functionally the same as flickering now but in every case.... Including casting) or it requires a target... Meaning it can ONLY function if cast or put onto the battlefield by an effect that explicitly attaches it to a creature.
This half and half ruling reeks of someone making a card for the game and realizing their card didn't work as intended so they gave a nonsense reason why it would.
Again is not that i don't get how it works I just think it is dumb and things SHOULD be consistent. I have similar feelings about the particular interactions between trample, indestructible, damage increasing replacement effects, and deathtouch. It is inconsistent with whether the damage can "see the future" or not.
short version. If replacement effects changing damage cannot be applied with the knowledge of the change in mind deathtouch shouldn't be able to assign 1 dmg and move on, because that implies that it can see the future and know that the type of dmg is deathtouch before it is actually applied. And as for the argument that any amount is lethal so you have assigned lethal and move on..... Then you shouldn't be able to trample over indestructible because no amount of damage will ever be lethal and the trample damage should be able to see the future like deathtouch and be forced to continue adding dmg to the indestructible target since they will never reach lethal.
It's just inconsistent. Not confusing..... I just feel like cards shouldn't behave differently in different places and that similar rules (rules related to damage assignments) shouldn't change how they behave individually.... Either all one way or another and it is just a personal gripe of mine
Pair Dream Halls with Lavinia, Azorius Renegade. You can play spells for free and your opponents can't.
I main Lavinia. I tried Dream Halls a while back. The deck plays a lot of colorless cards and the commander doesn’t have card advantage on her. Most of the 99 is used for stax and land hate rather than card draw. When Lavinia is removed it becomes an enabler for your opponents.
I like this idea
“5 mana that doesn’t impact the board”
Well so was paradox engine. And mirari’s wake.
mirari's wake does impact the board right away tho.
@@ijpg-fd7qn And Paradox Engine usually wins the game immediately with infinite mana thanks to it untapping manarocks.
Love this channel, love the intro. Thank you :)
For some reason you are reminding me Mack from Is It Worth a Buy channel. You are like one the last bastions of inteligent and helpful content creators in Gaming/Mtg review industry. (Plus Prof.) Great video again. Thank you and keep it comming.
Love to see Dingus Staff here. One of my Favorite cards. I run Dingus in my Diaochan chaos/control deck and in my Gisa, Glorious Ressurector deck. And Dingus is an absolutely MONSTER on the table
So many cards you mention have been great fits for The Mimeoplasm! (Side note: very fun commander you don't really see anymore...)
Also, Dingus Staff works well in any deck that's pressuring life totals, like Gisela.
I would love to see Demo's deck tech on The mimeoplasm with all the obscure cards from this series.
Dragonlair Spider is in my insect tribal deck for obvious reaons. Xira Arien's Jund colours is amazing for giving me access to stuff like this, it was my first deck were the commander was enabling the colourless rather then a deck built around a specifically strong commander.
I wanted to mention two cards that are not too often used in Commander that I think would be a great addition to your series is Thassa's Devourer, and Grim Guardian.
sage of mystery cost 1 blue mana vs 5 mana for the devourer
@@davidguay2222 sage is not an enchantment though, and has less stats
@@davidguay2222san both are in my deck.
I run Dimir Doppelganger in my Sidisi mill deck to exile creatures from my opponent's graveyard when I mill.
I run Dire Undercurrents in my Alela faerie tribal deck. Each time I cast an artifact, or enchantment I get a blue faerie, so I draw a card. It literally translates as "I cast an artifact/enchantment, I make a faerie, I draw a card". It's a really good fit. Plus I run Oona and Bitterblossom to make use of the black side of the card.
I use dingus staff as part of a combo in my Darien, King of Kjeldor soul-sister edh deck.
Dream tides works amazing for Merike. You can untap Merike every turn using this
Dire Undercurrents is so good. I have it in my Skeleton Ship "Sea/Ship" themed deck. This plus Master of Waves or Homarid Spawning Bed is some serious cards. As an instant I've used Seahunter to bring in Master of Waves to draw 10+ cards off of all those elementals entering the battlefield.
Dreams of the dead can be used in any deck that wants to mess around with text changing effects. This can then bring back blue creatures, and your death grip or life force can counter your opponents red spells for example.
Dracoplasm could probably be useful in my Marchesa, the Black Rose deck… thanks for the ideas!!
In middle school my go to deck was Diplomatic Immunity on a Thran Golem. I loved that deck haha
Dingus Staff is rather interesting. I'm not too sure what deck I'd put it in, but cool effect, something worth remembering.
Diplomatic Immunity is really great in the right deck, I'd never take it out of my Grand Arbiter deck.
Diplomatic Immunity goes great in a Muldrotha deck.
ew! would be good
Dreams of the Dead was a house in my Aminatou reanimator deck, such a good card.
I have a Lord Tresserhorn drawback tribal/Pandemonium deck that dracoplasm is going to be very happy in
Omg I’m so happy to see diplomatic immunity get some love. Been using that one for a long time
Disciple of Deceit does work in my Grimgrin (Phenax hidden commader) deck.
I used to love the Reins of Power + Dracoplasm combo.
Dreams of the dead will work pretty good with Teleportation circle.
These are some great cards to use in decks
Dream Halls is really funny, if you can use it more than your opponents.
Dreams of the Dead is a great card! I use it in my Kenrith deck (bends&breaks) and it's so interesting!
I have the Dragonlair Spider in my Wort, the Raidmother deck, it's so good !
Dracoplasm is a dragon with devour for two mana. That's really cool
I've always liked dingus staff, goes great in a vhat il dal deck
I have Dire Undercurrents in every Dimir deck lol. I also play diplomatic immunity if I run out of lightning greaves or swiftfoot boots.
I have a Scarab God deck focused around d a tombstone stairwell strategy. Dire Undercurrents will make it nasty.
So much fun stuff for that Ertai deck
Obstinate Baloth and friends seem like good inclusions. There are so many wheel and discard effects getting played that getting big dudes with essentially Madness {0} seems great
How does dingus staff work with tokens I thought they didn't go to the graveyard so they wouldn't do damage
Dingus staff triggers whenever a creature dies. Tokens still die - they still "enter the graveyard" - but they cease to exist the next time state-based actions are checked.
Tokens hit the graveyard first, then cease to exist
I had dracoplasm in a deck with leyline of anticipation and phyrexian dreadnaught. Turn 2 or 3 I would play the dreadnaught then flash dracoplasm out to eat the dreadnaught and now I have a 12/12 flying turn 2. It wasn’t edh but I have fond memories of iy
Friend of mine always got Diplomatic Immunity to his Zur as his first tutor with it. Made it so hard to deal with
i play dream halls in every blue group hug and janky u tribal deck i own and all but one person ive played with loves it ( :
14:33 I get what you mean, I do my Taxes decks with this thought in mind.
dreams of the dead in a varina deck to make sure you can get your pingers on the field for any enter or leave combos
Dire Undercurrents is a great card for Alela, because the faeries are blue. You get to draw on every artifact and enchantment you play
Dracoplasm + Phyrexian Dreadnought is the combo...you can play it in the second round !!!
I've always wanted to put Dragonlair Spider in an insect tribal deck with Xira Arien
If Dreams of the Dead worked the way you said, where you could exile the creature you brought back with a blink spell, then you've also forgotten Miss meadow witch who was hybrid blue and white and has the ability 2UW: Exile target creature you control. Return that creature to the battlefield at end of turn. The problem is, exiling a creature causes it to leave the battlefield, so that would still trigger Dreams of the Dead's effect.
Also Brago (who is definitely getting a copy of this), Teleportation Circle, one of the Thassa's and Conjurer's Closet.
I have Dire undercurrents in my oona deck, so my blue black faeries of which i make a couple each turn, will get insane value
Should maybe have Dracoplasm in a token deck where a portion of your token army feeds it. Gavi or Brudiclad comes to mind.
I dont remember you mentioning this card in your color specific video, but check out Royal Decree
Varchild's war rider aether flash dingus staff is funny
Dreams of the dead in a Nevinyrral deck sounds interesting
I can see dream halls working with Lavinia.
Man, Dire Undercurrents needs to go in my Rona deck, but I would have to boot out some sagas...
I'm a simple man, I see Dreams of the Dead on the Thumbnail, I like the video.
Saw the video now. Nice take on it on Aristocrats! I use it in an Aminatou blink deck, as you mentioned, the effect is very strong for a 2 mana instant speed ability, and having the option of blinking it to get an etb for a second time and keep the creature feels great
"Diplomatic Immunity is good in a Zur deck."
Are you implying Diplo wasn't possibly literally the first card I added when I started building a Zur deck? :P
Also, I know what you meant, but gotta love being at a point where somebody can be like "Drawing cards feels more like a green effect than a blue one."
Dire undercurrents fits so well in rogues.
Dreams of the dead goes good with the card Snowfall... You have a place to dump the extra mana
Yeah, this blue card will be good in my black/green commander deck
I have Dire Undercurrents in my Color Hack deck. I have the esper fairie as my commander and hack Undercurrents to blue
I do believe dream halls would work well in lavinia, renegadesomething
Dingus Staff is bonkers in a Massacre Girl deck. Played right you’re gonna take massive chunks of health out of your opponents with her board clear.
Stack question: if I have Dingus Staff out and my opponent has a lot of artefact creatures out, then I play a Bane of Progress destroying every artefact on the battlefield (including Dingus Staff), does Dingus Staff's damages to my opponent trigger before it is destroyed?
yes. dingus staff will see everything go to the graveyard. just like if you had a blood artist and someone boardwiped, you would get all those triggers.
Dream Halls is a bananas card, and in a Tiamat deck, straight up wins the game.
Dragonlair is in my Atla Palani Devour Deck.
Diplomatic was one of my first free blue cards i ever got one of my favs
I know a card that is stax but it’s very fun to play plus it’s only 4 mana aka 3 generic and a red it’s called war toll
We call each other Dingus Staff in our house during petty arguments.
It might have had to do with my Rakdos LD deck running both Egg and Staff, shaman and liquimetal to kill my SO’s small creatures…
So all and all underplayed card and a fun insult during name calling.
Often I use Dream Halls to get Omniscience into play then bounce Dream Halls.
Are we sure about that interpretation for dreams of the dead? It says leave the battlefield, exile instead. So wouldn't an exile effect trigger it, but then replace it with a different exile effect that DOESN'T have the return to battlefield clause on it... feel like it would only work the way you said if the errata on it reads "if it dies"
Nvm: just read the ruling, it works as you said....sorry for questioning you Demo....lol
i'm sure - "If a creature returned to the battlefield with Dreams of the Dead would leave the battlefield for any reason, it’s exiled instead - unless the spell or ability that’s causing the creature to leave the battlefield is actually trying to exile it! In that case, it succeeds at exiling it. If it later returns the creature card to the battlefield (as Oblivion Ring or Flickerwisp might, for example), the creature card will return to the battlefield as a new object with no relation to its previous existence."
@@edhdeckbuilding lol yeah. I edited my reply when I read the ruling right after I impulsively questioned you before checking haha
Dracoplasm is the mutate we all wanted :P LOL
Dreams of the Dead in Brago * head explodes *
Why no green/white (bi-color not tri) cards for us selysnya players?
Still not seeing frozen aether in any of these am i seriously the only one who usually runs these in my decks when there's blue
Dire undercurrents and locust god are best friends.
Dire undercurrents in my yarok deck is nasty.
Dream halls is so good, use it with teferi so they cant respond to you
Dreams of the dead is insane, wow...
Dream Halls: half the mana for half of Omniscience.
Use dream halls in muldrotha
wow that's so good. i totally missed the part where you can just run it in a deck where you want stuff in your graveyard.
@@edhdeckbuilding yep then bounce it or destroy it yourself before the next players turn lol
I'm surprised that you didn't put darkness in the list its truly a black fog
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Dream Tides in Atraxa Super Friends
A friend of mine plays Dire Undercurrents in Oona
It's disgusting
Dingus staff goes perfectly in a Daryl deck
They just don't like hating on creature decks, they just want hate on everything else
Wait. Did you chose those by alphabet?
i'm going in alphabetical order yes.
3 cards with Dream in their name. How uncommon.
Or rare?
I hate green and dont run it so i put hibernation in my budget talrand deck lmao
dreams of the dead in brago?
Dire undercurrents is also pretty expensive - probably biggest reason it doesnt see play
Dream Halls is so broken..... criminally under valued card.
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