Thanks for the heads up, unfortunately there's nothing we can do about it after the video has been posted. We'll make sure it's fixed in the next video.
For those of us that take a year to make up our minds and are on a budget, thank you. I really want the Spectre 9 and would like to see more about the Velos 762
I just picked up my Spectre 9 and threw it on my Kriss Vector 9mm and I love it. Super lightweight and worked flawlessly at the range. If you are using the Alpha direct thread mount make sure to tighten down the mount to the silencer body to approximately 20-30 ft lbs. Then screw the silencer to the barrel until it is properly shouldered. Hand tighten to approximately 10-15 ft lbs. This can all be found in the Spectre 9 Field Manual. It will work itself loose if not torqued properly. I highly recommend the Spectre 9.
Thanks Rob based off of your video on The PTR Vent 3. This was my first ever silencer purchase and boy was I impressed with the sound reduction and overall low back pressure with my first 556 can for my Q Sugar Weasel. Both the can and the rifle took their first shots together and I was super impressed! Touched it with my glove and quickly realized how fast it warms up as a part of my glove melted onto the can lol 😝
Yeah it’s a great can. Yeah titanium cans definitely heat up quick. Suppressor covers are the way to go for helping prevent accidental burns, we’ll have a video out on those soon as we get enough for a good head to head comparison. Thanks for watching 🍻
I want the most quiet cans for shooting in rooms (home defense, etc). I heard that some people "think that the flow through cans sound better outside but are louder than their traditional cans when fired inside". Do you think traditional cans are overall more quite than the flow through ones when you shoot them inside?...because that's what matters to me the most...if outside then I for sure would want more of a flow through.
Your audio is a little low comparatively with other channels. Makes it hard for me to hear at full volume while working. It would be nice if it was a little less suppressed... see what i did there. Thanks for your videos. Awesome stuff.
Always enjoy your thorough reviews. Based on your CanCon interview with Radical Defense, I purchased a CS 5Ti. Very pleased with it. Thank you for the assistance in picking my new can. When will you do a review on them?
I would really like a video on the B&T SRBS line (compact, full, K) on the CZ Bren. As a lefty as well, I'm really concerned with gassing, since my face is so much closer to the action.
I am a left handed shooter. I have both the compact and the full srbs inconel and both of then absolutely fuck. The compact is my favorite. Currently lives on my 14.5
Only the left channel of stereo audio appears to have made it through... creates a bit of a headache lol, but am still going to watch because your content is both a blessing and badassly detailed.
I'm looking forward to your 6.5 creedmoor comparison you mentioned was coming. I'm hoping for your insight on pushing more velocity on supersonic rounds while mitigating some sound if any.
of the cans i have the full size Velos 5.56 is the favorite. it's insane how different it sounds compared to the Saker 5.56 and Omega 300. much deeper, more of an angry thump than a crack.
I have been considering a CAT and I am looking forward to seeing you review them. I don’t remember seeing anything from you about the Otter Creek Labs Lithium. Any thoughts?
I don’t own a lithium but almost bought one. I didn’t for the following reasons: 1. It’s fairly high back pressure and I shoot on a KP9 and some full auto SMGs and back pressure is important on full auto. 2. The cost is higher than most cans in its category. Otherwise it looks amazing. For a semi auto roller delay or radial delay action I think it’s an awesome fit like on a semi MP5, a CMMG banshee, etc. I ultimately went with a RS9 and have 0 regrets. Great can
Great Video. I love the PTR Vent 2 (9mm) I got to play with and I can't justify the price tag. I did pick up the Shadow Systems HS923 and I can't wait for it get approved. Cat cans sound sooo good. Unfortunately my preferred suppressor store doesn't sell them.
I can't seem to find any decent reviews of the large caliber suppressors. As a Michigan Hunter we are limited to .450 Bushmaster in most of the lower peninsula and the kick and noise are extreme. How about looking at the multi-caliber 46 suppressors that are out there like the Dead Air Primal, SilencerCo Hybrid 46, Banish 46 (and V2), and TiON Dragoon 450 from a noise suppression and Kick-back reduction perspective? Rob would like to know!
@@travisweldmaster7815this really could be true. Aren’t they making a longer 5.56 can? If the WB performs as well as it does, in K size, imagine a full length version
Been looking for a .556 can. I have spent nearly 10k in the past two years on supressors and I have not been disappointed. Channels like this have made it money well spent. Any suggestions on the .556 that still alludes me, let us all know. Thanks!
Look Radical Defense CS line. Just got the CS 5 Ti a few weeks ago back based on Rob’s interview with Radical at CanCon. Low back pressure, and low noise at 132 db. They run $849 in Titanium 11 oz., or Haynes 282 16 oz. (for full auto). A true value versus $1500 + tax stamp for other similar offerings. Very pleased with overall performance. Hope this helps.
Curious why you didn't include KAC or SF suppressors in this review -- I would submit -- these are better -- in every way for the end user. Or... are these on the list to be reviewed in the future?
First, thank you for all the hard work you put in for our knowledge if you could run one can on a Sig SPEAR 300 what’s your pick I am just getting in the market it is my first suppressor not trying to make a mistake on a purchase. Thanks in advance.
Right now the B&T SRBS is my favorite, amazed with being quiet, low blow back, and hardly any signiture at night. Semper Fi brother I was a Marine too and a Provisional Rifle Platoon Instructor. Did a tour in Afghanistan in 2005(it sucked.) Now I am a professional Gunsmith/rifle builder and professional 1000yd benchrest competitor. That PTR Vent is my second favorite. I also just buy the 7.62 and throw it on my 5.56 AR's
Hey! I’ve been digging for someone that’s had experience with the new b&t srbs-dm cans compared to the ventum, ptr vent, and velos. What’s your experience between the srbs and ptr?
@@Ertactical any more details on how they compare by chance!? I wonder why the bt srbs-dm didn’t make it on the list, or what the biggest differences are. Particularly how the silencer shop inconel srbs compares to the velos. I’d pay to get an answer to this question
I found the Velos 762 works better for sound suppression than the Velos 556 on a 5.56 rifle, but it is a larger can. If I were to get just one to use on a 5.56 rifle as well as 300 Blackout or 308, it would be the Velos 762 or the PTR Vent 1 (762).
The Vent 2 is genuinely impressive, but I can't recommend it on pistol hosts (it's too loud and still spits back), only on subguns like the MP5. If you run 147 or 165gr subs on a MP5 with it, you purely hear the action of the gun and the dirt being hit, that's it. I managed to get one for 850 a few weeks back when one of the distributors did a clearance and at that price, I'm very satisfied. Their retail price is wayyyy too high, but like you said, they likely will come down at some point to compete (and if they do, they'll take a huge market share).
I'm utilitarian so for me multipurpose that's good enough is king. Have a ventum that took a core strike at the very base of it and still waiting for it to come back... So that's fun. I also have a nomad which I very much like. If I'm looking at anything it's like a universal rifle like 30 cal and a pistol cal or something like 8.6 and a 22
size doesn't matter, price does. I am looking for the least bang for the buck. Looking for 300 blkout - 300 win mag. 556 is a distant 3rd place concern.
I got a Griffin Armament Explorr 300 and am very happy with it. You will be able to find some You Tube reviews that describe the performance very accurately.
you won't go wrong with either choice...Fat cat is super short 4.5 inches, but is a tad heavy.... it is a smidge louder than the Polo K, but a good tone to it though. Both are awesome for the money....literally half the cost of the PTR Vent but still 85% of the performance....it's like all things, you usually pay a ton for that extra 10-20% performance.
If I’m considering one of these prt, or silencerco etc should I be looking for a specific muzzle device? Or is there a adaptor that would work for both?
I disagree on the 22lr other testing has shown very large differences in suppressor performance between brands, and 22lr suppressors are the most affordable and most available to everyone. More videos on 22lr please!
@@Ertactical I’m trying to find out asap for my next suppressor order. Especially while the stamp promo is still a thing!! So sorry for spamming the question! I just keep hoping for a response to it 😅
@@Ertactical I'm a bit Jealous, that range was awesome. I served at a time when qualifying with your weapon meant shooting at a target out at 25 meters that had different size silhouettes on it that represented what a target would look like at different ranges. This has to be one of the worst practices I've ever witnessed because it allows troops to pass their qualification that shouldn't. You simply must practice with your weapon and become accustomed to shooting the actual distance so you can become familiar with adjusting you rear sight for that distance and you also discover the effects the wind plays. My time there at Ben Avery and the generosity of the people there was key to my successful return from Afghanistan. It's also the first place I was able to shoot a muzzle loader 500 meters, 45 inches of drop!
Does a rifle speed gas block allow tuning enough to use a quieter traditional baffle can to give near the same benefit of low back pressure/ gas in the face? Just thing if so could buy a lower cost can and spend more for the gas block and have the adjustability
@@TheSugarWeasel93 I've used my standard baffled and "low back pressure" standard baffling cans on multiple different gas system lengths, buffer weights and calibers and I haven't found an adjustable gas block to be a "massive difference". It made a slight difference but not even close to a flow through. They aren't in the same ballpark imo
@@Ertactical I ended up buying a CAT Alleycat556 Ti over the PTR Vent 3. It was a realllllly hard and realllllllllllllly close decision. But ultimately I went Alleycat because, partially, I had already locked one down at a great price + free work on my rifle; and mainly, because I thought more about my use cases and all the advice I had picked up from avid silencer fans over the years, and for me, who will be running either a 16" rifle or a 14.5" rifle (and maybe a 12.5" at the lowest), the consensus I picked up from everyone was that it was a better use of money on 5.56 to buy as short and light as possible without sacrificing too much performance or durability, instead of trying to chase sound suppression as the most important feature. The Alleycat Ti w/ their Spooky 1 QD system is nearly half the weight of a PTR Vent 3 with a QD muzzle device setup + adapter, and the total overall system length of the Alleycat556 (if I have QD setups for both of them) is over 2 Inches shorter than the Vent 3 w/QD setup. I'm only sacrificing a small amount of muzzle suppression performance and getting the same protection at the shooter's ear (we're talking like a couple dB's difference and only a handful of pa-ms points different)
@@ErtacticalOh, and I forgot to mention that now that I have the CAT Alleycat556 Ti, for .308/.300BLK/7.62x39/etc, I'll be buying the PTR Vent 1, so that way I have a perfect, short 5.56 suppressor, and then I have a godlike suppressor for all those other calibers where having a really short and light silencer isn't really a big deal to me, and ALSO, when I want my 5.56 to be stupidly quiet and don't care if it's long, or I actually WANT my 5.56 to be long and heavy, like doing precision shooting, then i'll put the PTR Vent 1 on that too. I feel like that combo of suppressors is probably the best quality and value you can possibly get at the moment. And then add on a CAT MOB or CAT SC for your 9mm/.300 BLK guns (then you have a 9mm suppressor that also works extremely well for .300BLK subsonics if you want your .300BLK build to be super super short and still super quiet)
@@Ertactical Ah, dangit, youtube ate my comment I wrote. I wrote a lil review on the Alleycat and why I selected it over the Vent 3. But the Tldr is that: I got the Alleycat 556 Ti instead of the Vent 3 because my current guns are 16" and 14.5" and the lowest I may go for now is like 12.5" barrel. But the consensus from all the long time silencer fans I know is that it's not always a great idea to just chase sound reduction above everything else, especially on a longer barrel. So I got the Alleycat556 Ti because the silencer + qd mount is like 9.8oz, whereas a PTR Vent 3 w/ QD setup and adapter is like 6oz heavier and the overall system length ends up being over 2 inches longer than the AC556. Figured I'd be happier with less weight and length instead of a few dB lower
Hay I am shopping for a 350 Legend & 450 Bushmaster Suppressor . Both firearms are CVA Cascades. Any chance you have a good direction I can look into I would be grateful.
@@johnadams673 CAT is a brand stateside that's owned by a lab who do consulting and design work using IP from a German corporation in the natural gas, additive manufacturing, and government contracting space. The lab uses CAT to sell their own products. They share a 3D printing OEM with CGS, and CGS finishes for them for NFA compliance and handles civ distribution and MIL/LE sales through their agency dealer network.
this is what we have found too. SS seems to be the point of sales for them and we have been working with them to get a few and its a slow process. if it happens
Surprised no one is talking about the RD USA LS5... That thing is a monster. Heavy, but wow the decibel performance at both Milspec AND the shooter's ear. JEEEEEEEBUS!
You can get either titanium or inconel for the same price. It can definitely go head to head with the Vent 3. Where the Vent shines, is the deeper tone
Im contemplating a new 30 cal can specifically for a light weight hunting rifle, I'm thinking between dead air nomad ti xc , scythe, and rugged alaskan 360 ti . any thoughts???
I think you are missing out by not recommending a 45K can for pistols/300blk etc. I don't have near as many cans as you, but I've been at this for a looong time (my first 22 can was an AAC Pilot). A 45K can has so much more versatility over a 9 can. If your budget only allows one pistol can, it will be good for 9, 38/357, 41, 44, 45, 10mm, 300blk subs, etc. With the proliferation of threaded lever guns and PCC's in larger calibers, it gives you a TON of flexibility.
If you mean 22lr keep in mind it is very dirty with both lead and unburned powder. If you want to shoot 22lr or other rimfire buy a suppressor that is designed for rimfire ammo. They are much easier to clean.
8inch is super short for 556. IF it were me I would never go below 10.5 inch 556 and just get a 300 blackout for anything shorter than 10 (8.5 in and below, the ballistics of the 300BO start to outshine the 556...10.5 and above, the terminal ballistics start to favor 556)....but yes, the inconel version is heavy duty and would be one of the few to handle the high pressure of an 8 inch 556.
what B&T can? they have many,,, Rotex 762? IDK i just got one and will start testing this week.. SRBS? dont put a low BP can on a bolt gun.. hope this helps
@@Ertactical the silencer shop exclusive was the one I was thinking. Why not put a low back pressure can in a bolt gun? I was hoping once low back pressure cans got quieter I could get one an use it in multiple platforms.
Thank you for another great presentation, Rob! Still have my Vent 1 and 3 waiting on approval. I’ll contact CAT and encourage them to help out with an ODB, JL for you to do your thing! I am very interested in the CAT suppressors. 👍🏼👍🏼
I have one, and it is a great can for sound and concussion suppression, but it does have a lot of backpressure. I tend to use it on my 9mm PCC's and on AR's that I don't have to tune. For my AR's that gas me out or would require tuning with the 36M, I use my Velos 762, but it's not as quiet as the 36M. I am seriously considering getting the PTR Vent 762 as my next can. I suspect it'll have the sound signature of the 36M with the reduced backpressure of the Velos on my ARs in 5.56 and 300 Blackout (although it can't be used on a 9mm barrel).
@ZaneDouglas1 That's good to know. Mine JUST got its tax stamp and out of suppressor jail. I'm excited to try it out. I'll be honest, though: I'm not impressed with the baffles and the weight. But, I have to go shoot it before I judge it. From you, it sounds like it might do pretty well at suppression, and I can adjust my gas block, buffer weight, charging handle, drill forward facing relief holes into the receiver, and assist buffer spring tension to reduce blowback. I'm not my impressed with its baffle design and weight. The baffle design is REALLY outdated, especially considering this is silencerco's "newest" design and the weight is really heavy. I understand that it weighs what it weighs because they built it for full auto, duty use, but still, for a "latest and greatest" design, I feel like they're a bit behind. That being said, I haven't shot it yet. Sounds to me like it's a pretty good Silencer based on what you're saying.
@@natew.-victoryorvalhalla4571 It is indeed heavy, but I realized I don't haul it around in the woods, I just use it on the range, so weight has become a non-issue for me. It's a tad too heavy for my wife to shoot any more than a few rounds though. I'm not at all concerned about the baffle design... it works and it works well at suppression and is durable. Since this is not a can that can be disassembled for cleaning, baffle design is a non issue. If I ever need to clean it I'll just use a solution such as with Breakthrough Clean Technologies Suppressor Cleaner, Huxwrx Suppressor Sauce, SchleTek B&T Suppressor Cleaner, or Ballistol Suppressor Cleaner.
Rob, I think the audio channels are messed up, I'm only getting the left track here.
Same. Not very nice when using headphones.
Thanks for the heads up, unfortunately there's nothing we can do about it after the video has been posted. We'll make sure it's fixed in the next video.
@@SilencerSyndicateplease review the thunderbeast suppressors…
@@daltonisom6265 I have 37 (or is it 39?) cans, 4 of which are TBACs. Best cans on the market.
I thought it was my hearing aids!
For those of us that take a year to make up our minds and are on a budget, thank you. I really want the Spectre 9 and would like to see more about the Velos 762
I just picked up my Spectre 9 and threw it on my Kriss Vector 9mm and I love it. Super lightweight and worked flawlessly at the range.
If you are using the Alpha direct thread mount make sure to tighten down the mount to the silencer body to approximately 20-30 ft lbs.
Then screw the silencer to the barrel until it is properly shouldered. Hand tighten to approximately 10-15 ft lbs.
This can all be found in the Spectre 9 Field Manual. It will work itself loose if not torqued properly.
I highly recommend the Spectre 9.
I mean, we all appreciate your willingness to deal with an extra inch and more girth in the videos you make for us.
I just realized this channel is only 6 months old this is premium content and production. You earned another sub
Rob, could you do a video about cleaning suppressors? What kinds to clean, and when to clean them?
great idea!
Ti= CLR, Stainless= DIP (vinegar + Peroxide)
Thanks Rob based off of your video on The PTR Vent 3. This was my first ever silencer purchase and boy was I impressed with the sound reduction and overall low back pressure with my first 556 can for my Q Sugar Weasel. Both the can and the rifle took their first shots together and I was super impressed! Touched it with my glove and quickly realized how fast it warms up as a part of my glove melted onto the can lol 😝
Yeah it’s a great can. Yeah titanium cans definitely heat up quick. Suppressor covers are the way to go for helping prevent accidental burns, we’ll have a video out on those soon as we get enough for a good head to head comparison. Thanks for watching 🍻
@SilencerSyndicate yes do a video on suppressor covers you can shoot with them and not melt
Thanks for all the great info , makes me feel good the SRBS is going to be my next can !!!
I have the b&t srbs in 556 and 30. I'm very pleased with both. Very little gas with the 556 and none with the 30 on an 8.5 300 blackout.
How does 5.56 sound going through the 30 cal can? I can't seem to find any reviews showing that online since most reviewers run the 5.56 one
Well, sorry to say I haven't run the 30 on a 556. I did run it on a 16" 6.5 grendel with great results.
nice!
I’ve put a B&T 30 cal on a 556. I have their 556 can as well. They sound the same to me.
I want the most quiet cans for shooting in rooms (home defense, etc). I heard that some people "think that the flow through cans sound better outside but are louder than their traditional cans when fired inside". Do you think traditional cans are overall more quite than the flow through ones when you shoot them inside?...because that's what matters to me the most...if outside then I for sure would want more of a flow through.
the quietest can i have is a low BP can, its the Vent 1 (308). its crazy quiet
@ thanks for your response. I’ll have to look into that
@ BTW, I have a B&T srbs 308 inconnel. I wonder how close that is to the PtR 308 for home defense?
Awesome content once again Rob! Always look forward to your suppressor content!
Rob…great video and detailed information from your point of view.
Thanks for another in a great series of videos
Thanks for watching 🍻
Your audio is a little low comparatively with other channels. Makes it hard for me to hear at full volume while working. It would be nice if it was a little less suppressed... see what i did there. Thanks for your videos. Awesome stuff.
Very informative as always. Keep up the good work.
Love my banish 46 it works on everything I own and makes sub 9mm almost Hollywood quiet and its full auto rated and rated up to 338 lapua.
Thanks for sharing, hopefully we’ll get our hands on one to test in the not too distant future.
AZ represent
As always, a fantastic, objective, no fan boi BS video. Excellent. S/F
thanks brother, glad you liked the video and thank you for the support!
Thanks! Looking forward to seeing what's coming that might change things up.
Always enjoy your thorough reviews. Based on your CanCon interview with Radical Defense, I purchased a CS 5Ti.
Very pleased with it. Thank you for the assistance in picking my new can. When will you do a review on them?
just cleared 3 of the RD cans. hopefully we will be testing this week.. they use RockSet on their hub so i am working thought that.
I would really like a video on the B&T SRBS line (compact, full, K) on the CZ Bren. As a lefty as well, I'm really concerned with gassing, since my face is so much closer to the action.
I am a left handed shooter. I have both the compact and the full srbs inconel and both of then absolutely fuck. The compact is my favorite. Currently lives on my 14.5
Great can! glad you liked the video and thank you for the support!
Rob, any outlook on the timeline of the proposed review of said "new" 5.56mm can? I have a customer that it may be an excellent fit for.
will be released at shot ... I think.. Ill have one mid Nov
Only the left channel of stereo audio appears to have made it through... creates a bit of a headache lol, but am still going to watch because your content is both a blessing and badassly detailed.
Hay this information is useful Thank you
I noticed you didn't mention any Griffin Armament Suppressors. What are your thoughts on how they compare?
First vid I’ve seen from you. Super solid material! Instant like and sub from me!
Thank you, much appreciated 🍻
Yes. Hit your windows key, search mono audio, and temporarily turn it on for the video. :)
Thank you! And thanks for supporting us!
Great video Rob keep em coming
Thank you for your video, I have a couple of silencers and enjoyed your knowledge. Doug
Thanks for watching, we appreciate your support 🍻
I'm looking forward to your 6.5 creedmoor comparison you mentioned was coming. I'm hoping for your insight on pushing more velocity on supersonic rounds while mitigating some sound if any.
308 and 6.5 is on the way, still doing testing. glad you liked the video and thank you for the support!
Have you ever considered looking at the Diligent Defense Enticer series?
we have 2 on the way
of the cans i have the full size Velos 5.56 is the favorite. it's insane how different it sounds compared to the Saker 5.56 and Omega 300. much deeper, more of an angry thump than a crack.
I definitely appreciate the larger volume cans, especially for 5.56.
100% glad you liked the video and thank you for the support!
I have been considering a CAT and I am looking forward to seeing you review them. I don’t remember seeing anything from you about the Otter Creek Labs Lithium. Any thoughts?
I don’t own a lithium but almost bought one. I didn’t for the following reasons: 1. It’s fairly high back pressure and I shoot on a KP9 and some full auto SMGs and back pressure is important on full auto. 2. The cost is higher than most cans in its category. Otherwise it looks amazing. For a semi auto roller delay or radial delay action I think it’s an awesome fit like on a semi MP5, a CMMG banshee, etc. I ultimately went with a RS9 and have 0 regrets. Great can
we do have a few OCL cans we are testing. I don't have the Lithium however
@@Ertactical
I got my lithium out of jail yesterday and I am headed to the range for a bit of group therapy this afternoon.
I run my Spectre 9 on my Glock 45 without a booster and it runs good.
That's amazing! Factory recoil spring? Dot?
@@andrewcramer7214 yep factory everything with an eotech dot. I use the ecco machine alpha direct thread.
mine does not, tested in a G19... odd we have a dif. factory barrel?
I have the factory spring and a CMC barrel. The direct thread adapter is the aluminum one from ecco machine.
Great Video. I love the PTR Vent 2 (9mm) I got to play with and I can't justify the price tag. I did pick up the Shadow Systems HS923 and I can't wait for it get approved. Cat cans sound sooo good. Unfortunately my preferred suppressor store doesn't sell them.
glad you liked the video and thank you for the support!
Thanks!
My AB F4L also does brilliantly on the M9, but it really shines on my sub-only 300blk.
I can't seem to find any decent reviews of the large caliber suppressors. As a Michigan Hunter we are limited to .450 Bushmaster in most of the lower peninsula and the kick and noise are extreme. How about looking at the multi-caliber 46 suppressors that are out there like the Dead Air Primal, SilencerCo Hybrid 46, Banish 46 (and V2), and TiON Dragoon 450 from a noise suppression and Kick-back reduction perspective? Rob would like to know!
LAHAR series is my current favorite for 300 blackout.
nice, thanks for sharing
Really would like to know what that game changing can is gonna be. Apparently it checks all the boxes of what a can should be for the most part.
Cat
@@travisweldmaster7815this really could be true. Aren’t they making a longer 5.56 can? If the WB performs as well as it does, in K size, imagine a full length version
can't say, but i should have one in about 30 days and it will be announced at shot, in Jan.. Ill keep you all posted as best I can.. Nope not a CAT
Great review brother, just subbed!
AB Raptor 6 or 8 or Radical Defense LS3Ti or CS3 coming?
We have some RD cans on their way to us, stay tuned! Thanks for watching 🍻
yes, RD is here now and the AB's are on the way
Just picked up the VENT 1.
Again, great information
Thank you! And thanks for supporting us!
Semper Fi brother. Liked and subbed
Thanks brother, glad you liked the video and thank you for the support!
Thanks for the video! I'm looking forward to the suppressor cover review you mentioned
testing currently! glad you liked the video and thank you for the support!
If you had to pick one sandman L or 308 vent?
Been looking for a .556 can. I have spent nearly 10k in the past two years on supressors and I have not been disappointed. Channels like this have made it money well spent. Any suggestions on the .556 that still alludes me, let us all know. Thanks!
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Look Radical Defense CS line. Just got the CS 5 Ti a few weeks ago back based on Rob’s interview with Radical at CanCon. Low back pressure, and low noise at 132 db. They run $849 in Titanium 11 oz., or Haynes 282 16 oz. (for full auto). A true value versus $1500 + tax stamp for other similar offerings. Very pleased with overall performance. Hope this helps.
glad you liked the video and thank you for the support!
Cat wb
Thank You. Still subbed.
Much appreciated!
Great content thank you
Curious why you didn't include KAC or SF suppressors in this review -- I would submit -- these are better -- in every way for the end user. Or... are these on the list to be reviewed in the future?
I have SF cans, but i don't like em. i have no KAC cans. I did chat with them and maybe ill revisit them.
Question. Can you shoot 556 through a 762 suppressor?
Yes, Rob answered that in the video. 👍🏼
Is 556 smaller than 762?
No its impossible, don’t try it unless you want any Kamala Harris to be president
First, thank you for all the hard work you put in for our knowledge if you could run one can on a Sig SPEAR 300 what’s your pick I am just getting in the market it is my first suppressor not trying to make a mistake on a purchase. Thanks in advance.
Would love to hear the vent on 6.5creed and 300 blk
yes, lots more testing to come! glad you liked the video and thank you for the support!
Right now the B&T SRBS is my favorite, amazed with being quiet, low blow back, and hardly any signiture at night. Semper Fi brother I was a Marine too and a Provisional Rifle Platoon Instructor. Did a tour in Afghanistan in 2005(it sucked.) Now I am a professional Gunsmith/rifle builder and professional 1000yd benchrest competitor. That PTR Vent is my second favorite. I also just buy the 7.62 and throw it on my 5.56 AR's
Hey! I’ve been digging for someone that’s had experience with the new b&t srbs-dm cans compared to the ventum, ptr vent, and velos. What’s your experience between the srbs and ptr?
hey man! same gun club! yea i too am in love with the SRBS line. thanks for sharing
@@Ertactical any more details on how they compare by chance!? I wonder why the bt srbs-dm didn’t make it on the list, or what the biggest differences are. Particularly how the silencer shop inconel srbs compares to the velos. I’d pay to get an answer to this question
@@JacobP-rx8de Also undecided between the velos and the 556 srbs.. anyone?
Thanks Rob,
You mentioned something that made me wonder....what 30cal suppressors work "better" on 556 than their own 556 version of the suppressor?
I found the Velos 762 works better for sound suppression than the Velos 556 on a 5.56 rifle, but it is a larger can. If I were to get just one to use on a 5.56 rifle as well as 300 Blackout or 308, it would be the Velos 762 or the PTR Vent 1 (762).
The Vent 2 is genuinely impressive, but I can't recommend it on pistol hosts (it's too loud and still spits back), only on subguns like the MP5. If you run 147 or 165gr subs on a MP5 with it, you purely hear the action of the gun and the dirt being hit, that's it. I managed to get one for 850 a few weeks back when one of the distributors did a clearance and at that price, I'm very satisfied. Their retail price is wayyyy too high, but like you said, they likely will come down at some point to compete (and if they do, they'll take a huge market share).
def love the 9mm PTR on sub guns, I am not really into putting cans on pistols.
Are you going to do a video on the DeadAir Lazarus 6?
Don’t have one. For months they have been saying one is in the way.. idk what’s going on with that company
Appreciate the informative videos brother Semper Fi 🤙✌👊
thanks brother, glad you liked the video and thank you for the support!
I'm utilitarian so for me multipurpose that's good enough is king. Have a ventum that took a core strike at the very base of it and still waiting for it to come back... So that's fun. I also have a nomad which I very much like.
If I'm looking at anything it's like a universal rifle like 30 cal and a pistol cal or something like 8.6 and a 22
Great info
Thank you! And thanks for supporting us!
size doesn't matter, price does. I am looking for the least bang for the buck. Looking for 300 blkout - 300 win mag. 556 is a distant 3rd place concern.
I got a Griffin Armament Explorr 300 and am very happy with it. You will be able to find some You Tube reviews that describe the performance very accurately.
I think I'm sold on the Vent 1 for mostly 5.56 use.
love that can... great do all, low BP, stupid quiet
Griffin armament recce 5 is the quietest 556 can out there in my opinion 😎
Hey just want to say I love the content. Quick question Polonium K or YHM Fat Cat which one you picking?
Neither both suck
Easy. Polonium K.
Polo K all day
you won't go wrong with either choice...Fat cat is super short 4.5 inches, but is a tad heavy.... it is a smidge louder than the Polo K, but a good tone to it though. Both are awesome for the money....literally half the cost of the PTR Vent but still 85% of the performance....it's like all things, you usually pay a ton for that extra 10-20% performance.
great Q! The YHM is quiet for its size but both are full back pressure cans.
Jw any reason you're not using the Plan b/rearden mount system or do you prefer the SiCo ASR System?
mounting systems,,,, th-cam.com/video/Zn9_eSox59U/w-d-xo.html
If I’m considering one of these prt, or silencerco etc should I be looking for a specific muzzle device? Or is there a adaptor that would work for both?
I would like to know your top three for the 9mm.
hmm Vent 9mm, Specter 9, the last one i think i know but i am still comparing a few
I disagree on the 22lr other testing has shown very large differences in suppressor performance between brands, and 22lr suppressors are the most affordable and most available to everyone. More videos on 22lr please!
we did a deep dive on the 22 lr cans. feel free to check it out. since we made that vid we have gotten a few more. we will likely do another soon
Did you check out the sci six?
link please
Looking to get my first suppressor. I’m leaning towards the flow556k. I’m really looking more for signature reduction, what are your thoughts?
Are the cat silencers less back pressure than the velos, and ventum based on your recent experience?
all that data will be on our web page soon
Great video Rob!
EVT in the house! glad you liked the video and thank you for the support!
Great video, thank you!
Would you recommend the Velos LBP 556k over the Hux flow 556k? Specifically for a LH shooter with a 16” AR? Thanks!
great Q, I don't feel Hux is very quiet so id do the Velos
@@Ertactical Copy that, thank you for the reply!
@@Ertactical now how about the velos vs the b&t srbs-dm for 556?
@@Ertactical I’m trying to find out asap for my next suppressor order. Especially while the stamp promo is still a thing!! So sorry for spamming the question! I just keep hoping for a response to it 😅
@@JacobP-rx8de mee too. Cant decide! U make a decision yet?
The range behind him reminds me of the one North of Phoenix
Ben Avery? It is
@Ertactical I competed there more than 20 years ago. Thanks for putting that up.
@ great range! I am teaching there 5days a week
@@Ertactical I'm a bit Jealous, that range was awesome. I served at a time when qualifying with your weapon meant shooting at a target out at 25 meters that had different size silhouettes on it that represented what a target would look like at different ranges. This has to be one of the worst practices I've ever witnessed because it allows troops to pass their qualification that shouldn't. You simply must practice with your weapon and become accustomed to shooting the actual distance so you can become familiar with adjusting you rear sight for that distance and you also discover the effects the wind plays. My time there at Ben Avery and the generosity of the people there was key to my successful return from Afghanistan. It's also the first place I was able to shoot a muzzle loader 500 meters, 45 inches of drop!
Does a rifle speed gas block allow tuning enough to use a quieter traditional baffle can to give near the same benefit of low back pressure/ gas in the face? Just thing if so could buy a lower cost can and spend more for the gas block and have the adjustability
No. Not even close. Using an adjustable gas block or BCG does help, but its little improvements.
It depends on the silencer and gas system length. It can make a massive improvement in some cases.
good Q! I would say there would be no diff or very little diff however a new rifle i am testing is making me re consider that.
@@TheSugarWeasel93 I've used my standard baffled and "low back pressure" standard baffling cans on multiple different gas system lengths, buffer weights and calibers and I haven't found an adjustable gas block to be a "massive difference". It made a slight difference but not even close to a flow through. They aren't in the same ballpark imo
@@Jez-p9k meanwhile I can hear the gun getting quieter with every click of the agb. Different guns i guess
How does the CAT WB compare to the SilencerCo Scythe Ti?
cat makes good cans but we don't have any for constant testing, I don't want to give half advice
@@Ertactical I ended up buying a CAT Alleycat556 Ti over the PTR Vent 3. It was a realllllly hard and realllllllllllllly close decision. But ultimately I went Alleycat because, partially, I had already locked one down at a great price + free work on my rifle; and mainly, because I thought more about my use cases and all the advice I had picked up from avid silencer fans over the years, and for me, who will be running either a 16" rifle or a 14.5" rifle (and maybe a 12.5" at the lowest), the consensus I picked up from everyone was that it was a better use of money on 5.56 to buy as short and light as possible without sacrificing too much performance or durability, instead of trying to chase sound suppression as the most important feature. The Alleycat Ti w/ their Spooky 1 QD system is nearly half the weight of a PTR Vent 3 with a QD muzzle device setup + adapter, and the total overall system length of the Alleycat556 (if I have QD setups for both of them) is over 2 Inches shorter than the Vent 3 w/QD setup.
I'm only sacrificing a small amount of muzzle suppression performance and getting the same protection at the shooter's ear (we're talking like a couple dB's difference and only a handful of pa-ms points different)
@@ErtacticalOh, and I forgot to mention that now that I have the CAT Alleycat556 Ti, for .308/.300BLK/7.62x39/etc, I'll be buying the PTR Vent 1, so that way I have a perfect, short 5.56 suppressor, and then I have a godlike suppressor for all those other calibers where having a really short and light silencer isn't really a big deal to me, and ALSO, when I want my 5.56 to be stupidly quiet and don't care if it's long, or I actually WANT my 5.56 to be long and heavy, like doing precision shooting, then i'll put the PTR Vent 1 on that too. I feel like that combo of suppressors is probably the best quality and value you can possibly get at the moment. And then add on a CAT MOB or CAT SC for your 9mm/.300 BLK guns (then you have a 9mm suppressor that also works extremely well for .300BLK subsonics if you want your .300BLK build to be super super short and still super quiet)
@@Ertactical Ah, dangit, youtube ate my comment I wrote. I wrote a lil review on the Alleycat and why I selected it over the Vent 3. But the Tldr is that: I got the Alleycat 556 Ti instead of the Vent 3 because my current guns are 16" and 14.5" and the lowest I may go for now is like 12.5" barrel. But the consensus from all the long time silencer fans I know is that it's not always a great idea to just chase sound reduction above everything else, especially on a longer barrel. So I got the Alleycat556 Ti because the silencer + qd mount is like 9.8oz, whereas a PTR Vent 3 w/ QD setup and adapter is like 6oz heavier and the overall system length ends up being over 2 inches longer than the AC556. Figured I'd be happier with less weight and length instead of a few dB lower
Hay I am shopping for a 350 Legend & 450 Bushmaster Suppressor . Both firearms are CVA Cascades. Any chance you have a good direction I can look into I would be grateful.
Compared to these silencers he reviewed and others you might have. What's everyone's opinion on the SilencerCo''s Omega 36M?
Got my Vent 1 approved and finally got here on Saturday. Can’t wait to try it on an AR 308, 5.56, and 300blk!
You'll love it!
@@Ertactical it is my new favorite cam on 5.56. It was a head turner at the range on a 16” BCM MK2.
CAT is a design company overseas. They license their designs to CGS to acrually make and sell the cans state side
@@johnadams673 CAT is a brand stateside that's owned by a lab who do consulting and design work using IP from a German corporation in the natural gas, additive manufacturing, and government contracting space. The lab uses CAT to sell their own products. They share a 3D printing OEM with CGS, and CGS finishes for them for NFA compliance and handles civ distribution and MIL/LE sales through their agency dealer network.
Thanks for sharing.
Hopefully we’ll have some of their cans soon, initial tests were positive but we need more hands on time. thanks for watching🍻
this is what we have found too. SS seems to be the point of sales for them and we have been working with them to get a few and its a slow process. if it happens
Surprised no one is talking about the RD USA LS5... That thing is a monster. Heavy, but wow the decibel performance at both Milspec AND the shooter's ear. JEEEEEEEBUS!
We have some RD cans on the way for testing, stay tuned!
RD needs to send it to Pew!
You can get either titanium or inconel for the same price. It can definitely go head to head with the Vent 3. Where the Vent shines, is the deeper tone
@@SilencerSyndicatedefinitely looking forward to seeing them
3 RD cans are now here.. testing will begin today , i think
Do you have any plans to check out and review the C.A.T. Dirty Dave? Love the content!
I have reached out to them a few times now. seems like it tuff to work with them
Do you have any recommendations for 556/22lr silencers ?
i don't put 556 cans on 22's
Im contemplating a new 30 cal can specifically for a light weight hunting rifle, I'm thinking between dead air nomad ti xc , scythe, and rugged alaskan 360 ti . any thoughts???
As mentioned in the vid the Scythe is great for that
Scythe
I think you are missing out by not recommending a 45K can for pistols/300blk etc. I don't have near as many cans as you, but I've been at this for a looong time (my first 22 can was an AAC Pilot). A 45K can has so much more versatility over a 9 can. If your budget only allows one pistol can, it will be good for 9, 38/357, 41, 44, 45, 10mm, 300blk subs, etc. With the proliferation of threaded lever guns and PCC's in larger calibers, it gives you a TON of flexibility.
Thanks for the recommendation, we appreciate you taking time to provide feedback. We’ll keep it in mind for future videos.
yup, but first we would need to have a chat about Caliber choice.
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Opinions on Q?
One of my local gun shops, the owner is a fan boy of the company (one of their main brands at the shop) but I am not convinced
What happened with the Ventum 762?
good can, low BP but a bit too loud for my liking. the industry is making quiet and low BP now
Try hitting up CGS for cat suppressors. CAT designs them, CGS makes them.
I have a question! Can you use the 5.56 sup.on a 22cal. And also can you use the 308 sup.on a 5.56 and 22cal.
If you mean 22lr keep in mind it is very dirty with both lead and unburned powder. If you want to shoot 22lr or other rimfire buy a suppressor that is designed for rimfire ammo. They are much easier to clean.
I have seen at least one CAT can that was white labeled and actually manufactured by Chaos Gear Supply. Maybe you can reach out to them.
All CAT cans will be listed under CGS
Is B&T SRBS556-DM INCONEL good for my aero precision M4E1 8” upper ? I just bought one as my 1st can after watching your video for it.
8inch is super short for 556. IF it were me I would never go below 10.5 inch 556 and just get a 300 blackout for anything shorter than 10 (8.5 in and below, the ballistics of the 300BO start to outshine the 556...10.5 and above, the terminal ballistics start to favor 556)....but yes, the inconel version is heavy duty and would be one of the few to handle the high pressure of an 8 inch 556.
@@keithcrandall1369 thanks a lot, do I need to modify or adjust my gun? I planning on getting a radian vented raptor SD charging handle.
great can! glad you liked the video and thank you for the support!
Ya there are no barrel restrictions and the can can withstand insnae abuse your good to go
Sound wise. How would you compare the Scythe to the BnT titanium shooting 308 in a bolt rifle?
what B&T can? they have many,,, Rotex 762? IDK i just got one and will start testing this week.. SRBS? dont put a low BP can on a bolt gun.. hope this helps
@@Ertactical the silencer shop exclusive was the one I was thinking. Why not put a low back pressure can in a bolt gun? I was hoping once low back pressure cans got quieter I could get one an use it in multiple platforms.
Thank you for another great presentation, Rob! Still have my Vent 1 and 3 waiting on approval. I’ll contact CAT and encourage them to help out with an ODB, JL for you to do your thing! I am very interested in the CAT suppressors. 👍🏼👍🏼
Me too that's what I'm buying
Stay away from CAT. That company sucks to deal with
@@hunterdavis4753 CAT sucks to deal with because...? Personal experience or internet/Reddit posts? Genuinely curious.
glad you liked the video and thank you for the support!
@@russkepler5139Ive had nothing but an awesome experience with them. Had an issue with a flash hider and they sent me a brand new one for free.
Any interest in reviewing CGS silencers? I heard CAT and CGS are made by the same company
we have found the same. they have an odd set up
No AB raptor?
Nice vid
Fantastic vid. I just got an 8.6 upper. Would love to see what can you would use on that!!
Nice! We’ll look at that for a future topic, thanks for watching. Feel free to share your experiences with your 8.6 in our comments sections.
we will be doing so testing on it and several fun newer cals! glad you liked the video and thank you for the support!
.350 legend - Hey Rob, do you have a recommendation for a .350 legend AR?
YHM R9 or OCL lithium
to be honest, its not a cal that interests me.
Also, does anyone have a SilencerCo Omega 36m? And, if so, what is your opinion on it?
I have one, and it is a great can for sound and concussion suppression, but it does have a lot of backpressure. I tend to use it on my 9mm PCC's and on AR's that I don't have to tune. For my AR's that gas me out or would require tuning with the 36M, I use my Velos 762, but it's not as quiet as the 36M. I am seriously considering getting the PTR Vent 762 as my next can. I suspect it'll have the sound signature of the 36M with the reduced backpressure of the Velos on my ARs in 5.56 and 300 Blackout (although it can't be used on a 9mm barrel).
@ZaneDouglas1 That's good to know. Mine JUST got its tax stamp and out of suppressor jail. I'm excited to try it out. I'll be honest, though: I'm not impressed with the baffles and the weight. But, I have to go shoot it before I judge it. From you, it sounds like it might do pretty well at suppression, and I can adjust my gas block, buffer weight, charging handle, drill forward facing relief holes into the receiver, and assist buffer spring tension to reduce blowback.
I'm not my impressed with its baffle design and weight. The baffle design is REALLY outdated, especially considering this is silencerco's "newest" design and the weight is really heavy. I understand that it weighs what it weighs because they built it for full auto, duty use, but still, for a "latest and greatest" design, I feel like they're a bit behind. That being said, I haven't shot it yet. Sounds to me like it's a pretty good Silencer based on what you're saying.
@@natew.-victoryorvalhalla4571 It is indeed heavy, but I realized I don't haul it around in the woods, I just use it on the range, so weight has become a non-issue for me. It's a tad too heavy for my wife to shoot any more than a few rounds though. I'm not at all concerned about the baffle design... it works and it works well at suppression and is durable. Since this is not a can that can be disassembled for cleaning, baffle design is a non issue. If I ever need to clean it I'll just use a solution such as with Breakthrough Clean Technologies Suppressor Cleaner, Huxwrx Suppressor Sauce, SchleTek B&T Suppressor Cleaner, or Ballistol Suppressor Cleaner.