Ragequitting a game run only to go get a few world records in another game to "cool down" and then return and complete the original run has to be the most gamer thing ever.
I wanna see the final Undead mission... The mission wherein Abelhawk had not completed without any cheats. Can't remember, but I think he did finally finished it without cheats in Reforged.
I would count this as deathless, those treants are just sleeping. I would be fine with an additional rule "timed units that are made in cutscenes and carry over into gameplay do not count as Malfurion is a meanie poopoo"
"timed units that are made in cutscenes and carry over into gameplay do not count" this sounds like a reasonable addition as there is no controll over it
I'd say intentionally making timed life units that will time out before the mission ends is a no go, but I'm not going to stress out over malfurion deciding to kill trees just cause he didn't feel like going around
@@persey7241 I would just say deaths you can avoid in gameplay count. For example cutscenes don't count as you have no control those treants don't count as you can't do anything against it.
@Tommaso Stefanelli true, if thats a part of the exceptions then it would be possible but very difficult like the rest of the series so far. No necro summons and all that
if you think about it they DID die in the cutscene, the thing that causes them to die(being summoned) happens their it just takes 60 seconds to take effect
Is is a coincidence that after doing SC2 blind run, he started to complete Frozen Throne Sentinel's campaign? It's like he knows how to play Illidan after playing SC2 blindly xD
12:44 The rule "Units that die in Cutscenes do not count" exists, because you can not affect their fate. In the same way, you can not affect the fate of a unit summoned in a cutscene. So Malfurions summons should be excluded for the same reason as unit death in cutscenes. But you should still try to avoid them if possible and should try to prevent them from dealing any damage.
@Tim Wanger they're like heroes, but with better stats. But tbh the levels with tons of coatls raiding your base in both Hu and Ne campaigns were waaaaay more annoying to me
“Malfurion is seriously the worst character in warcraft. He is a jerk and is mean to Illidan and doesn’t deserve Tyrande and he ruined my run and I don’t like it. He and Maiev should get together in a cave with their jerkiness and leave everybody alone you meaniepants.” GiantGrantGames
@John Gray Genuinely, Maiev is probably my favorite character, aside from Arthas, in WC3. I am aware she's trash, but I am just constantly amused by her. Just the intense single-minded drive to catch Illidan and put an end to his simping for Tyrande.
@@hungcuong606 You mean Kel'Thudaddy? Ten out of ten sexy voice skeleton, he's absolutely in the top 5. Unfortunately, he doesn't really do anything on his own? As great as his voice is, he's mostly just a pawn of the Lich King. Which I know can be said of Arthas too, but Arthas is just such a massive dick I can't help but love him. I may as well put in the top 5, actually, since we're here. 5, Sylvanus, I don't play WoW even a little so I know almost nothing about her in that other than that she's kinda stupid. In WC3, though, she's great. Her missions, as tough as they are, are some of my favorite in the whole game. 4 is Kel'Thuzad, purely for his fucking incredible voice. 3 is Illidan, despite myself. He's total trash, and around half of his problems would have been solved if he'd stopped being edgy for like... 5 whole minutes? Also, he simps for Tyrande who is, without a doubt, the single worst character in Warcraft 3. But he's also just such a diva, it's great. 2 is Arthas, which is so obvious I feel no need to explain it. And 1 is Maiev. Not only does she have my favorite hero skill kit, but she's genuinely just hilarious to watch. She's so single minded on her hate-boner for Illidan, she feels more like a force of nature than anything else. Just pure raw VENGEANCE energy. I'm aware this pick is trash, but hey, can't help who you like.
I was never into the genre, kinda burned out even before Warcraft 3 came out. But nowadays all of these challenge runs have revived my interest as a viewer.
Game mechanically WarCraft III had some interesting moments, but, the imbalance and the lore is just annoying at times, to annoying for me to deal with.
Bruuhhh, you actually taking on the Frozen Throne campaign with this challenge?! Sincerely wish you best of luck with the UD campaign, I really hope you could do this, this is gonna be awesome, super hyped for this run, good luck!
He streamed it all on twitch, i believe some UD vods are still on there if your curious how it went, if you want more info feel free to join the discord :)
I only beat the last mission of FT by using something like 8 graveyards to make corpses, a bunch of meat wagons, and a necro army with obs statues for mana. Illidan's army was too strong to kill with anything short of unlimited skeletons.
WHITE TEXT COMPILATION (because I enjoy watching videos podcast style, which means I miss out on a lot of the funny flavour text): The Rise of the Naga 2:50 Wildkin #1: Hoo is that? (upon seeing Naisha run up and shadowmeld in the chokepoint). Wildkin #2: Owl kill ya! (as archers begin shooting them) 3:20 Naga Siren: I hate boats so much! (while ignoring hostile night elves in order to attack a boat) 3:23 Archer: Gonna help, Maiev? (Maiev is standing on the side watching as a Myrmidon attacks a boat) Archer: I will give you a Knife. Maiev: (blinks in and casts Fan of Knives) I am a Fan of Knives. The Broken Isles 4:14 Maiev: Wait for me! (rushes into a transport ship while 20 something units are waiting for her. Isn't she supposed to be an agility based hero? Why are units waiting for her?) 5:37 Frigate: Later losers (fleeing while the other frigates engage couatl) 7:02 Maiev: Who keeps their demon artifacts inside a turtle? (she has 41 int. Can she really not guess that it just ate it?) 7:05 Maiev: More like comb TH-cam for a guide (in response to Grant saying "I made sure to comb the map for all ten [shadow orb fragments]). Balancing the Scales 15:39 Mountain Giant: I can't believe they fit two of us in there! (as they disembark from a tiny transport ship) Shards of the Alliance 17:13 Tyrande: Vile Undead! Tyrande: Feel the wrath of E- (begins casting starfall) Tyrande: Zzzzz (is promptly put to sleep) 17:25 Kael: Which way do we go? (while at a crossroads) Maiev: There is nothing written on these signs... (this is correct). The Brothers Stormrage 25:35 Troll Warlord: LAMO (sic) Troll Warlord: KEK Troll Warlord: XD Illidan: I hate trolls. 26:05 Malfurion: Psst! (is talking to Illidan from a cliff) Malfurion: Hey kid Malfurion: Wanna buy a shadow orb +10? 26:18 Orange Dreadlord: Ow! (is attacked by Illidan while snooping on the brothers' drug deal as described above) 26:46 Red Dreadlord: cyka blyat (while attacking Illidan whom currently is rushing the red altar).
Including more of your failed attempts really showcases just how arduous and challenging of a task it is to not loose a single unit. I feel like in a lot of the earlier deathless campains you've done, many viewers really underestimated the process. Please continue with it.
So, naga could have soloed undead uprising and demon invasion on their own if they wanted without breaking a sweat? I feel a new plothole being created by these overpowering stats:(
Lore-wise, their most absurdly overpowered unit, the Naga Royal Guard, has very, VERY few members and they're all technically hero units. The Hard-difficulty AI being able to produce them like a regular unit is complete bullshit as a group of 10 of them is literally unstoppable by virtue of being such an overpowered unit.
@@joshuakim5240 yeah aren't they all equivalent to the strongest and first few of Arthas's death knights? They're all bosses in their own right since they're the royal guardian that protected Asherah (however you spell that Mad queens name) and went down with her during the war of the old well
one minute ago I was sad that there wasn't a perfect video to eat my breakfast to. One minute later I had the exact entertainment my bacon and eggs needed.
Same here, lol. "Hmm i`m getting tired of that lets play that I`m watching, would be great if I found something else to enjoy during my breakfast. Oh, another deathless WC3 upload, yay!"
I miss when the broken isles looked bright and colorful like this. I also miss how the Jungle Stalkers used to look like Yetis covered in vines and moss rather than JUST being 100% plant monsters in Reforged.
Reforged was a downgrade in every way. In trying to make warcraft 3 look more like the MMO blizzard completely sucked out the charm and character which made the game so great to begin with. If blizzard tried to pass this shit without the bugs I wouldn’t buy, it just looks like garbage, but it actually amazes me that they actually thought it was a good idea to release such a terrible remaster.
seriously man. even back when i played the game for the first time as a child, i always the the broken isles looked so fckn cool. the blue water, the palm trees, the corals, the creatures. it really gave the vibe of an ancient place that was in the ocean for a long time, and only fairly recently raised up. same with the tomb of sargeras itself. ....aaaaaand then in legion they turned it into an ugly clusterfuck.
Interesting thing to note: In the og WC3 campaign files Royal Guards were statted as a """weaker""" caster version of Mountain Giants (at a 300 gold cost and slightly more expensive upgrades), Coatls are Wind Riders with the dot turned into base damage but slightly slower attack speed (but better if buffed with something that increases attack speed as the "slower" portion is actually animation length rather than time between attacks) and Tidal Guardians are actually just Scourge Spirit Towers with the slowed attack speed made up with higher base damage (tho same averages).
Sincerely, I quit my hard (death allowed) run in balancing the scales, because I didn't find it hard, but extremely unfair. And you managed to beat it without a single casualty. From this day on, and until the day I die, you'll have my respect.
@@kevin-7091 I don't see it like that; most of the difficulties in the game, the only thing they do, is to raise one stat. A good difficulty should be fair, that encourages ability, rather than a spam of overpowered enemies
Everytime you say maiev I just hear "my elf" lol. Manastone foreshadowing. I like it. I'm looking forward to the blood elf campaign simple because there at least two missions I could imagine being basically impossible without cheesing. But you'll do it anyway of course.
@@norberthiz9318 I was thinking of the second mission (because when it did the campaign on hard last year for the first time, that was a nightmarish difficulty spike, even if th emission is designed to be cheesed) and the portal mission (because that last portal was insane)
@@norberthiz9318 humm did he used towers to defend and used hawkriders in 2nd lvl and the second to last lvl same towers ahead of the portals and ignoring the orc bases or he used the flying nagas? just asking im new on the channel :)
I was wondering why there was no continuation of this series until this point, yea... I'm not sure I would've had the patience and skill to do this challenge at all myself.
Music choice especially for the last two missions really fits with your script. I've never played warcraft, but it was easy to understand the challenge in it!
Man, showing all these failures really show how much hell you put yourself through for these videos. Makes me appreciate them and you even more. Keep up the good work! (or don’t if you think you’re gonna die from the sheer stress of these deathless runs...)
I love these videos so much. I'm not good enough at RTS to attempt something like this so I have massive respect for anyone with this much skill (or persistence)
Small comment about the Deathless playlist: This vid is put after the Blood Elf vid in the playlist, so newcomers might not get the context why the Naga Royal guard was such a big deal for the ending. Just an FYI
The talk about failed strategies and showing of the failures gives a LOT more depth to the run, and is absolutely wonderful to get a grasp of the process of how you develop the tactics used. Keep that addition to future videos if you can, please, it makes it much better.
Oh, man. This is making me so nostalgic for a custom map I used to play a ton back during TFT called Legacies: Tides of the Serpent. It was an RPG that used password saving, a third-person camera and really awkward arrow controls. The TFT tilesets allowed for some really immersive level aesthetics!
3:18 In Warcraft 3 frozen throne(2003) was the bug, which can help in saving ships. Before satyr base, you could blink right, in the wood, and found a fulborg. When he dies, he drops healing wards. And you can set ward behind the gate, so Maiev can blink and kill nagas without triggering cut scene Buþ I'm not sure, that there is this bug in reforged
You have never failed to impress me: - 12 ghosts snipe to kill Kerrigan in all- in - Heart of the swarm crucible - Furboughs to kill archimond - stacking items on the lich for the summoning mission You are just amazing ... thank you for making 2 of my favourite games so interesting
I like this style, it's cool to see the evolution of strategies since I kind of pop in and out of stream watching mode and know about like... how half the levels went and what was hard in any given mission. Anyway, always cool to see new full on videos from you, they're always good stuff
Wait you can stack potion of invulnerability? Naga OP, well except you can't build the OP units xD Lmao Illidan is really a one man army. Getting the dream items are just so awesome. Mask of death, crown of kings, plus Maiev's shadow orb It's true what they say, life uh finds a way xD
7:03 I disagree. Using the guardian as the container for the treasure is smart. This way the thieves cannot lure the guardian away and steal the treasure without killing it. 17:08 Case in point.
Although when the owner want to get it they have to get it through three ways and none of them are pleasant Also i am pretty sure those are just animal that wonder around and eat anything they see and aren’t guardian of any kind
I think showing the resets really gave an understanding how utterly BS the Naga forces are in this game. And this made it so much more enjoyable to see you succeed! Great Job!
It's ironic that a huge part of every Warcraft 3 Campaign Hero's character development is based around the fact that they are willing to sacrifice as many of their kin for their convictions, as their enemies were for their own goals.. And you are nope-ing all of that ahaha. Fantastic work!
Well, the good thing is that most of the Blood Elf campaign missions are gonna be relatively easy for you, due to how few actual build missions there are (Though, I’m excited to see you do the secret mission perfectly, as it is indeed possible from what I have seen, just insanely difficult.)
I am pretty sure, GGG had a very hard time on Mission 05. The one where you get to finally train Coatls... well... the ONLY mission where you get to train Coatls.
I got to do this at the Milwaukee Mile for my Christmas gift from my family, I felt the adrenaline in just the passenger seat alone. It reaffirms my absolute love for racing
I really appreciate the patience and consistency in your uploads, as well as your attention to detail, not only concerning the rules but also the video quality. Cheers!
Your format where you explain things nicely and neatly is really good My explanation is that you seems to be really good at explaining things so listening to you is very soothing Thanks a lot!
"...dont see in modern rts" Did I miss an rts release, as far as my understanding goes noone makes rts' nowadays. At least nothing on par with CnC, warstarcraft and (arguably) grey goo Now I'm sad, I miss the rts genre Edit: honestly if I could reproduce a good pathfinding ai like the old rts' had I'd make the damn things myself
There are some RTS in development right now, I think Immortal by Sunspear Games will be the first of the "next generation" to release. There is Frost Giant Studio offcourse but I don't expect to see anything from them until next year since they are in the early stages of development. There are more but these are to me the most interesting parties developing in the genre
Dwarfheim is a very fun and quite unique RTS that I recommend you to try. The one that I liked the most since GreyGoo (maybee even more). Really cool game!
Man I feel so bad for the comment I left in the last vid. Had I known just how fucking painful this campaign is, I wouldn’t’ve been so impatient. Nonetheless, I’m once again BLOWN AWAY by your raw ingenuity and looking forward to the rest of Frozen Throne! May the odds be ever in your favor
I thought i was the only guy that played like this, glad to find another crazy savior. Thanks for the tip for the exchange of items, that shadow orb belongs with Illidan.
Can't wait to see more of your content, I'm not good at this type of game so watching you makes me happy. You're informative and concise love the content
Many years ago I produced guides for all the hard mode missions and I am pretty sure the 'Dive and entangle the summoners' on The Ruins of Dalaran was the plan I came up with as well. A very similar strat for The Brothers Stormrage too.
11:00 In this map, In the lower right there is an royal guard, you can kill it with maiev. And in balancing the scales, if you cut somewhere a few tree with malphurion, you can find a place, and there are books.
also im pretty sure the items you give illidan now, he has when you fight him as undead. so i think you're meant to drop them all before the level ends
Can confirm, Illidan does *NOT* carry items forward to the Undead Campaign. He does, however, carry them forward to his appearance in the Blood Elf Campaign.
Hi Grant, very nice video. You are a hero among gamers for even attempting such incredible challenges. However i think that you shout add to your rule set the fact that you CAN use summons or other types of timed units since those are not technically produced units, they are simply magical units. Summons are like any other magic spell. The units produced by magic do not cost resources or food/supply, only mana so i think they should be included in your deathless run. GG!
Hahaha this run was as frustrating as i imagined. Fuck the Naga.. they are so damn overpowered. Well the next Campaign doesnt pull any punches either... cant wait for that Video :D Amazing Video and good Job!
Watching these insane strats makes you think if the developers secretly intended such things. Like the clutch pathway with trees, and the Paladin for the ruins of dalaran. Seeds planted so that an insane runner would some day reap the reward of doing an almost impossible deathless run. Kudos GGG.
I appreciate seeing failed attempts, really drives home the point the effort you put in and the progression of how you come to your ultimate strategies. Kudos on beating this insane campaign! And godspeed on the rest because that undead campaign... Also I would have counted those treants as cinematic deaths.
Tbh you could make a gorillian deathless runs and I'd still watch them. Your voice and audio balancing is a critical mass of clear, soft, and expressive. Good job!
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Ragequitting a game run only to go get a few world records in another game to "cool down" and then return and complete the original run has to be the most gamer thing ever.
Yea hang on lemme go smack some people in a different game so hard I get a WR then go back and do what I wanted to do anyway
A real Epic Gamer Move.
That’s like being unable to beat that one level in I wanna be the guy so you go do 4/20 mode just to stop raging
@@korhol2065 I thought it was called 20/20/20/20 mode
@@Arthutstut641 "I'm gonna do what's called an pro gamer move"
Grant I REALLY liked seeing failed attempts. It shows how difficult and how much strategy goes into each mission. Please do more like this.
Agreed watching how he adapts and learns is so interesting to watch aswell as how the way of thinking changes
Agreed
totally agree
Yes exactly this!
I wanna see the final Undead mission...
The mission wherein Abelhawk had not completed without any cheats. Can't remember, but I think he did finally finished it without cheats in Reforged.
I would count this as deathless, those treants are just sleeping. I would be fine with an additional rule "timed units that are made in cutscenes and carry over into gameplay do not count as Malfurion is a meanie poopoo"
"timed units that are made in cutscenes and carry over into gameplay do not count"
this sounds like a reasonable addition as there is no controll over it
I'd say only if they time out on their own, though, if they die in combat from damage it counts.
@@calebadam2576 That would allow the possibility to cheese fights by just spamming summoned units and pulling them out repeatedly
I'd say intentionally making timed life units that will time out before the mission ends is a no go, but I'm not going to stress out over malfurion deciding to kill trees just cause he didn't feel like going around
@@persey7241 I would just say deaths you can avoid in gameplay count. For example cutscenes don't count as you have no control those treants don't count as you can't do anything against it.
It is absolutely insane how much effort it takes to beat the Naga deathless. Very well done sir.
Gotta be top two when it comes to difficulty.
@Tommaso Stefanelli you get necromancer summons on the first mission for arthas, much like the malfurion treant cutscene
@Tommaso Stefanelli true, if thats a part of the exceptions then it would be possible but very difficult like the rest of the series so far. No necro summons and all that
Never underestimate the snake bois
i think that the developper of the reforged campaign could add the playable naga faction
I still count this as deathless because those Treants were summoned in the cutscene, outside of your control.
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It should be an extra expection
Yeah, it can be considered a cutscene death, just a delayed one
if you think about it they DID die in the cutscene, the thing that causes them to die(being summoned) happens their it just takes 60 seconds to take effect
Is is a coincidence that after doing SC2 blind run, he started to complete Frozen Throne Sentinel's campaign?
It's like he knows how to play Illidan after playing SC2 blindly xD
They are kindred spirits
He was getting impatient
12:44 The rule "Units that die in Cutscenes do not count" exists, because you can not affect their fate.
In the same way, you can not affect the fate of a unit summoned in a cutscene.
So Malfurions summons should be excluded for the same reason as unit death in cutscenes. But you should still try to avoid them if possible and should try to prevent them from dealing any damage.
Came to say this. If units dying in a cutscene doesn't count, then timed units spawned in a cutscene shouldn't count either.
"The unit that almost got me to quit"
It's royal guards isn't it
"the naga royal guard"
@Tim Wanger they're like heroes, but with better stats. But tbh the levels with tons of coatls raiding your base in both Hu and Ne campaigns were waaaaay more annoying to me
*Dante:* and we're supposed to be twins
The only saving grace is that they have heavy armor and can be bursted with magic damage in a bunch of the missions.
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Hence a royal pain in the butt lol
“Malfurion is seriously the worst character in warcraft. He is a jerk and is mean to Illidan and doesn’t deserve Tyrande and he ruined my run and I don’t like it. He and Maiev should get together in a cave with their jerkiness and leave everybody alone you meaniepants.”
GiantGrantGames
That's completely unfair!... Maiev is great, she doesn't deserve to go in the punishment cave with Malfurion.
Facts
@John Gray Genuinely, Maiev is probably my favorite character, aside from Arthas, in WC3. I am aware she's trash, but I am just constantly amused by her. Just the intense single-minded drive to catch Illidan and put an end to his simping for Tyrande.
@@archsteel7 what your opinion about Kel'Thuzad ?
@@hungcuong606 You mean Kel'Thudaddy? Ten out of ten sexy voice skeleton, he's absolutely in the top 5. Unfortunately, he doesn't really do anything on his own? As great as his voice is, he's mostly just a pawn of the Lich King. Which I know can be said of Arthas too, but Arthas is just such a massive dick I can't help but love him.
I may as well put in the top 5, actually, since we're here.
5, Sylvanus, I don't play WoW even a little so I know almost nothing about her in that other than that she's kinda stupid. In WC3, though, she's great. Her missions, as tough as they are, are some of my favorite in the whole game.
4 is Kel'Thuzad, purely for his fucking incredible voice.
3 is Illidan, despite myself. He's total trash, and around half of his problems would have been solved if he'd stopped being edgy for like... 5 whole minutes? Also, he simps for Tyrande who is, without a doubt, the single worst character in Warcraft 3. But he's also just such a diva, it's great.
2 is Arthas, which is so obvious I feel no need to explain it.
And 1 is Maiev. Not only does she have my favorite hero skill kit, but she's genuinely just hilarious to watch. She's so single minded on her hate-boner for Illidan, she feels more like a force of nature than anything else. Just pure raw VENGEANCE energy. I'm aware this pick is trash, but hey, can't help who you like.
I was never that into Warcraft, but it's pretty interesting watching these deathless runs and not knowing whats going on ever!
I was never into the genre, kinda burned out even before Warcraft 3 came out. But nowadays all of these challenge runs have revived my interest as a viewer.
Me watching hearthstone plays no idea what's going on but hey still watching
All you need to know is that malfurion is a meaniepants.
Game mechanically WarCraft III had some interesting moments, but, the imbalance and the lore is just annoying at times, to annoying for me to deal with.
you will never be a woman
The failed runs give the series much more depth. Its a great addition.
Bruuhhh, you actually taking on the Frozen Throne campaign with this challenge?! Sincerely wish you best of luck with the UD campaign, I really hope you could do this, this is gonna be awesome, super hyped for this run, good luck!
He streamed it all on twitch, i believe some UD vods are still on there if your curious how it went, if you want more info feel free to join the discord :)
I only beat the last mission of FT by using something like 8 graveyards to make corpses, a bunch of meat wagons, and a necro army with obs statues for mana. Illidan's army was too strong to kill with anything short of unlimited skeletons.
@@freakwent6209 you can just check his archive channel that one have all the vods you need
@@Sdogofdoom or you can just cheese it with the earthquake
well landmine and siege engine to the rescue o.o
WHITE TEXT COMPILATION (because I enjoy watching videos podcast style, which means I miss out on a lot of the funny flavour text):
The Rise of the Naga
2:50
Wildkin #1: Hoo is that? (upon seeing Naisha run up and shadowmeld in the chokepoint).
Wildkin #2: Owl kill ya! (as archers begin shooting them)
3:20
Naga Siren: I hate boats so much! (while ignoring hostile night elves in order to attack a boat)
3:23
Archer: Gonna help, Maiev? (Maiev is standing on the side watching as a Myrmidon attacks a boat)
Archer: I will give you a Knife.
Maiev: (blinks in and casts Fan of Knives) I am a Fan of Knives.
The Broken Isles
4:14
Maiev: Wait for me! (rushes into a transport ship while 20 something units are waiting for her. Isn't she supposed to be an agility based hero? Why are units waiting for her?)
5:37
Frigate: Later losers (fleeing while the other frigates engage couatl)
7:02
Maiev: Who keeps their demon artifacts inside a turtle? (she has 41 int. Can she really not guess that it just ate it?)
7:05
Maiev: More like comb TH-cam for a guide (in response to Grant saying "I made sure to comb the map for all ten [shadow orb fragments]).
Balancing the Scales
15:39
Mountain Giant: I can't believe they fit two of us in there! (as they disembark from a tiny transport ship)
Shards of the Alliance
17:13
Tyrande: Vile Undead!
Tyrande: Feel the wrath of E- (begins casting starfall)
Tyrande: Zzzzz (is promptly put to sleep)
17:25
Kael: Which way do we go? (while at a crossroads)
Maiev: There is nothing written on these signs... (this is correct).
The Brothers Stormrage
25:35
Troll Warlord: LAMO (sic)
Troll Warlord: KEK
Troll Warlord: XD
Illidan: I hate trolls.
26:05
Malfurion: Psst! (is talking to Illidan from a cliff)
Malfurion: Hey kid
Malfurion: Wanna buy a shadow orb +10?
26:18
Orange Dreadlord: Ow! (is attacked by Illidan while snooping on the brothers' drug deal as described above)
26:46
Red Dreadlord: cyka blyat (while attacking Illidan whom currently is rushing the red altar).
"agility based mage is quite tanky" must be the most insane sequence of words ive ever heard
But agility does increase 1/3 armor
This is what happens when you increase the Shadow Hunters health.
Bruh that last mission plan sounds like a heist movie plan
Including more of your failed attempts really showcases just how arduous and challenging of a task it is to not loose a single unit. I feel like in a lot of the earlier deathless campains you've done, many viewers really underestimated the process. Please continue with it.
It's exceedingly rare that a video on youtube becomes the highlight of my week, but yours have done so more than once.
So, naga could have soloed undead uprising and demon invasion on their own if they wanted without breaking a sweat? I feel a new plothole being created by these overpowering stats:(
And they would do so, if it weren't for those meddling night elves!
@@lief3414 oh boi do I have a word to have with you Naga were originally night elfs that corrupted by an old God nazzoth
Lore-wise, their most absurdly overpowered unit, the Naga Royal Guard, has very, VERY few members and they're all technically hero units. The Hard-difficulty AI being able to produce them like a regular unit is complete bullshit as a group of 10 of them is literally unstoppable by virtue of being such an overpowered unit.
@@joshuakim5240 yeah aren't they all equivalent to the strongest and first few of Arthas's death knights? They're all bosses in their own right since they're the royal guardian that protected Asherah (however you spell that Mad queens name) and went down with her during the war of the old well
@@Penguiniel yeah, because they obviously live on different planet they can escape to when oceans start to boil...
I have an addiction to these videos and need part two now, the wait kills me
Support him on patreon for early access to videos
You can watch the stream archives. Though not all of them are successful runs, but it's good fun.
one minute ago I was sad that there wasn't a perfect video to eat my breakfast to. One minute later I had the exact entertainment my bacon and eggs needed.
That was literally me as well!
Same here, lol. "Hmm i`m getting tired of that lets play that I`m watching, would be great if I found something else to enjoy during my breakfast. Oh, another deathless WC3 upload, yay!"
Same, I wanted to watch some raid guides but then this popped up
I miss when the broken isles looked bright and colorful like this. I also miss how the Jungle Stalkers used to look like Yetis covered in vines and moss rather than JUST being 100% plant monsters in Reforged.
Reforged was a downgrade in every way. In trying to make warcraft 3 look more like the MMO blizzard completely sucked out the charm and character which made the game so great to begin with. If blizzard tried to pass this shit without the bugs I wouldn’t buy, it just looks like garbage, but it actually amazes me that they actually thought it was a good idea to release such a terrible remaster.
@@theshambler6814 I think it looks nice.
seriously man. even back when i played the game for the first time as a child, i always the the broken isles looked so fckn cool. the blue water, the palm trees, the corals, the creatures. it really gave the vibe of an ancient place that was in the ocean for a long time, and only fairly recently raised up. same with the tomb of sargeras itself. ....aaaaaand then in legion they turned it into an ugly clusterfuck.
Interesting thing to note: In the og WC3 campaign files Royal Guards were statted as a """weaker""" caster version of Mountain Giants (at a 300 gold cost and slightly more expensive upgrades), Coatls are Wind Riders with the dot turned into base damage but slightly slower attack speed (but better if buffed with something that increases attack speed as the "slower" portion is actually animation length rather than time between attacks) and Tidal Guardians are actually just Scourge Spirit Towers with the slowed attack speed made up with higher base damage (tho same averages).
Tidal Guardian?
@@kevin-7091 it the naga base defense the thing that look like a giant snake that pop out from it swimming pool to shoot lightning ball at you
@@hungcuong606 yeah that's a tidal guardian
Well aint coding/animating and alike all about finding short cuts?
With the amount you say you struggled and were frustrated by this run I almost feel bad wanting these deathless runs so much lol
"It's been ten thousand years... but I finally compleated mission 7 deathless!"
-Giant Grant Games probably
Sincerely, I quit my hard (death allowed) run in balancing the scales, because I didn't find it hard, but extremely unfair. And you managed to beat it without a single casualty. From this day on, and until the day I die, you'll have my respect.
@Kosorou Gaming Studio Archives Thats a LOT of patience...
Campaign is never supposed to be a fair battle lol, it's a challenge, not a pvp
@@kevin-7091 I don't see it like that; most of the difficulties in the game, the only thing they do, is to raise one stat. A good difficulty should be fair, that encourages ability, rather than a spam of overpowered enemies
Literally same, illidans base is such bs
@@yeast7485 Yeah! If only Royal Guards were a little more balanced...
I love how it may take forever, but grant always finds a way!
I like how the "realization" for Ruins of Dalaran is literally just a slight variation of an already-existing speedrun strat.
he said he doesn't usually check speedrun strats for deathless because they're usually incompatible
Everytime you say maiev I just hear "my elf" lol.
Manastone foreshadowing. I like it.
I'm looking forward to the blood elf campaign simple because there at least two missions I could imagine being basically impossible without cheesing.
But you'll do it anyway of course.
He already did it on stream and I believe I know which ones you're talking about, but he cheesed both of them
@@norberthiz9318 I was thinking of the second mission (because when it did the campaign on hard last year for the first time, that was a nightmarish difficulty spike, even if th emission is designed to be cheesed) and the portal mission (because that last portal was insane)
@@zairaner1489 ah yes he cheese both of those(introducing to non dying base and invisible illidan)
@@norberthiz9318 Where can I find the streamed Blood Elf campaign? I don't know if I can wait on the next fully polished video for it.
@@norberthiz9318 humm did he used towers to defend and used hawkriders in 2nd lvl and the second to last lvl same towers ahead of the portals and ignoring the orc bases or he used the flying nagas? just asking im new on the channel :)
I was wondering why there was no continuation of this series until this point, yea... I'm not sure I would've had the patience and skill to do this challenge at all myself.
Yeah man six months is so long
I grantee you that is this the tip of the ice berg of this deathless run
@@dankmemes8254 Speaking of... wonder if he'll do Rexxar's campaign.
@@dankmemes8254 oh fucking boy that undead campaign will be... yikes
Music choice especially for the last two missions really fits with your script.
I've never played warcraft, but it was easy to understand the challenge in it!
Man, showing all these failures really show how much hell you put yourself through for these videos. Makes me appreciate them and you even more.
Keep up the good work! (or don’t if you think you’re gonna die from the sheer stress of these deathless runs...)
Hearing your commentary makes this run insane. Amazing dedication to this
Finally, the dream comes true, these campaigns on hard mode are nightmares with deaths, can't wait for the Undead missions and "King Arthas".
I love these videos so much. I'm not good enough at RTS to attempt something like this so I have massive respect for anyone with this much skill (or persistence)
I think that the treants dying in "Balancing the Scales" count as cinematic deaths, that mission still counts as deathless
The nagas that depresses everybody are literally covered by scales :)
I just want to compliment the fact that you show a basic explanation for the Units. This is really nice for people who don't know the Game.
Small comment about the Deathless playlist:
This vid is put after the Blood Elf vid in the playlist, so newcomers might not get the context why the Naga Royal guard was such a big deal for the ending.
Just an FYI
The talk about failed strategies and showing of the failures gives a LOT more depth to the run, and is absolutely wonderful to get a grasp of the process of how you develop the tactics used. Keep that addition to future videos if you can, please, it makes it much better.
I remember cursing the royal guards A LOT when i was younger.
Oh, man. This is making me so nostalgic for a custom map I used to play a ton back during TFT called Legacies: Tides of the Serpent. It was an RPG that used password saving, a third-person camera and really awkward arrow controls. The TFT tilesets allowed for some really immersive level aesthetics!
Night Elf: "I will give you a knife"
Maiev: "I am a Fan of Knives"
Super underrated, loved it
bruh this dude is legend
what a dedication
24:14 - I like the portrait for the potion of invisibility.
yeah that's definitely one of the nicest remasters
3:18
In Warcraft 3 frozen throne(2003) was the bug, which can help in saving ships.
Before satyr base, you could blink right, in the wood, and found a fulborg. When he dies, he drops healing wards. And you can set ward behind the gate, so Maiev can blink and kill nagas without triggering cut scene
Buþ I'm not sure, that there is this bug in reforged
Odds are the reason your supply went down during the runner mission was the wisp turning into a building and not a unit dying
Could be they are the only units that cost 1 supply and he was busy building ancient protecter at the time
You have never failed to impress me:
- 12 ghosts snipe to kill Kerrigan in all- in
- Heart of the swarm crucible
- Furboughs to kill archimond
- stacking items on the lich for the summoning mission
You are just amazing ... thank you for making 2 of my favourite games so interesting
I like this style, it's cool to see the evolution of strategies since I kind of pop in and out of stream watching mode and know about like... how half the levels went and what was hard in any given mission. Anyway, always cool to see new full on videos from you, they're always good stuff
Super excited! Warcraft 3 was my childhood and I still come back to the campaigns to this day. Absolutely love watching you play this. Thank you!!
Wait you can stack potion of invulnerability? Naga OP, well except you can't build the OP units xD
Lmao Illidan is really a one man army. Getting the dream items are just so awesome. Mask of death, crown of kings, plus Maiev's shadow orb
It's true what they say, life uh finds a way xD
You can, but only in Reforged! Thanks Reforged
Stacking useable items is reforged feature as far as i know.
@@Neopolis3 Does that mean that the deathless run would actually be impossible in vanilla Warcraft 3?
@@scienceviking4490 Not really. He just needed 1 potion to escape each time. It would've just taken more time.
Incredible
O hai
7:03 I disagree. Using the guardian as the container for the treasure is smart. This way the thieves cannot lure the guardian away and steal the treasure without killing it.
17:08 Case in point.
Although when the owner want to get it they have to get it through three ways and none of them are pleasant
Also i am pretty sure those are just animal that wonder around and eat anything they see and aren’t guardian of any kind
@@hungcuong606 Also true.
I really liked the new take on the videos where you explain the struggle, theory crafting and real difficulty in the explanations and footage.
I think showing the resets really gave an understanding how utterly BS the Naga forces are in this game. And this made it so much more enjoyable to see you succeed! Great Job!
It's ironic that a huge part of every Warcraft 3 Campaign Hero's character development is based around the fact that they are willing to sacrifice as many of their kin for their convictions, as their enemies were for their own goals..
And you are nope-ing all of that ahaha.
Fantastic work!
"I don't exactly know why a furbolg is here, but he was probably the one that killed Sargeras."
This comment is gold man
Man, how you managed the end missions is really awesome.
I really love your planning and explaining strategies!
Thanks for the video!
0:13 By the Gods! Pure SOLARITE!
"By the gods! Hierarch! this solarite will boost our core by 500%! we must gather this solarite!"
I imagined Karax slaughtering Naaru for Solarite.
@Taramafor Haikido we can state what we think, yeah?
I love the longer video and failed attempts! Great videos!
Well, the good thing is that most of the Blood Elf campaign missions are gonna be relatively easy for you, due to how few actual build missions there are (Though, I’m excited to see you do the secret mission perfectly, as it is indeed possible from what I have seen, just insanely difficult.)
I am pretty sure, GGG had a very hard time on Mission 05. The one where you get to finally train Coatls... well... the ONLY mission where you get to train Coatls.
I got to do this at the Milwaukee Mile for my Christmas gift from my family, I felt the adrenaline in just the passenger seat alone. It reaffirms my absolute love for racing
I love the failed runs clips!
I really appreciate the patience and consistency in your uploads, as well as your attention to detail, not only concerning the rules but also the video quality. Cheers!
I think it still counts as deathless because it’s not doable by technicality, not impossibility
It makes me feel a lot better watching this, knowing how much I struggled to play this campaign when I was 10
First of the long awaited Frozen Throne deathless videos are finally here
Your format where you explain things nicely and neatly is really good
My explanation is that you seems to be really good at explaining things so listening to you is very soothing
Thanks a lot!
I was so PREPARED for this video
that was a great intro, i have been waiting for one of these, this is cool.
"...dont see in modern rts" Did I miss an rts release, as far as my understanding goes noone makes rts' nowadays. At least nothing on par with CnC, warstarcraft and (arguably) grey goo
Now I'm sad, I miss the rts genre
Edit: honestly if I could reproduce a good pathfinding ai like the old rts' had I'd make the damn things myself
There are some RTS in development right now, I think Immortal by Sunspear Games will be the first of the "next generation" to release. There is Frost Giant Studio offcourse but I don't expect to see anything from them until next year since they are in the early stages of development. There are more but these are to me the most interesting parties developing in the genre
Well, there are some studios made out of people that left blizzard that are apparently working to create RTS games
@@MarcDonders Well heres hoping they make enough competition to see some great rts' come out
Dwarfheim is a very fun and quite unique RTS that I recommend you to try. The one that I liked the most since GreyGoo (maybee even more). Really cool game!
Sins of a solar empire was extremely fun if you want something in the meantime
This is my favourite campaign ever made , playing it as a kid with my dad got a lot of nostalgia
22:26 Naga Royal Guard: You are not Prepared
22:36 Couatl: You are not Prepared
Man that was insane! Good Luck for future runs!
Man I feel so bad for the comment I left in the last vid. Had I known just how fucking painful this campaign is, I wouldn’t’ve been so impatient. Nonetheless, I’m once again BLOWN AWAY by your raw ingenuity and looking forward to the rest of Frozen Throne! May the odds be ever in your favor
Every day i kept checking for the series.
Ty :)
YESSSS!!!!!! I didn't think you were going to do this.
I love the unexpected joke subtitles in your videos, the owl puns at 2:47 almost killed me and ended the deathless run right there :D
That feeling when getting world record speed runs was easier than doing this.
I thought i was the only guy that played like this, glad to find another crazy savior. Thanks for the tip for the exchange of items, that shadow orb belongs with Illidan.
I guess the opposite of a 'Difficulty Spike' would be a 'Difficulty Dip'?
Difficulty Pit
Difficulty Pitfall, if we're keeping with the theme of booby traps?
difficulty slump
Difficulty Drop?
in tvtropes they call it a "breather level" i believe
Can't wait to see more of your content, I'm not good at this type of game so watching you makes me happy. You're informative and concise love the content
Welcome back, General Grant.
Boop.
Captain Shar.
The way you've beaten Ruins of Dalaran should be in all motivational books in "Never give up" chapter
The naga royal guard is so strong that 10 of them could kill Archimonde
No shit, but naga general in lore can't do shit other than splashing water and swing their up sided sword
@joserijalkasyasyaf9723 in lore they're roughly the equivalent to the strongest Death Knights but there's only a handful of them
Many years ago I produced guides for all the hard mode missions and I am pretty sure the 'Dive and entangle the summoners' on The Ruins of Dalaran was the plan I came up with as well. A very similar strat for The Brothers Stormrage too.
The true definition of the campaign: H E L L
11:00 In this map, In the lower right
there is an royal guard, you can kill it with maiev. And in balancing the scales, if you cut somewhere a few tree with malphurion, you can find a place, and there are books.
Imagine getting multiple speedrun wr, simply because it is easier than a random self-imposed challenge
Yessss i am so happy dat we See an Video with the Evolution of the strats! Dat makes it so much more relieble to watch and feel your Suffer nice vid!
also im pretty sure the items you give illidan now, he has when you fight him as undead. so i think you're meant to drop them all before the level ends
He doesn't have them
Can confirm, Illidan does *NOT* carry items forward to the Undead Campaign. He does, however, carry them forward to his appearance in the Blood Elf Campaign.
I just noticed the green progress bar in the intro. That was a lovely touch, thanks! Now to enjoy the rest :)
yes finally the frozen throne!
Hi Grant, very nice video. You are a hero among gamers for even attempting such incredible challenges. However i think that you shout add to your rule set the fact that you CAN use summons or other types of timed units since those are not technically produced units, they are simply magical units. Summons are like any other magic spell. The units produced by magic do not cost resources or food/supply, only mana so i think they should be included in your deathless run.
GG!
Hahaha this run was as frustrating as i imagined. Fuck the Naga.. they are so damn overpowered. Well the next Campaign doesnt pull any punches either... cant wait for that Video :D Amazing Video and good Job!
Watching these insane strats makes you think if the developers secretly intended such things.
Like the clutch pathway with trees, and the Paladin for the ruins of dalaran. Seeds planted so that an insane runner would some day reap the reward of doing an almost impossible deathless run.
Kudos GGG.
Maiev x Illidan is still a better love story than twilight
It's great to see these coming out at last!
Man the reforged grafics just look sooo wrong xD
no
@@General12th Yes.
@@StormKnight1 Absolutely not. Let it be known that I disagree with your opinion. I think Reforged graphics look better than the original.
@@General12th well then you are lost!
@@VeryPeeved What did I lose?
I appreciate seeing failed attempts, really drives home the point the effort you put in and the progression of how you come to your ultimate strategies. Kudos on beating this insane campaign! And godspeed on the rest because that undead campaign... Also I would have counted those treants as cinematic deaths.
Maiev is the best character, no exceptions
Tbh you could make a gorillian deathless runs and I'd still watch them. Your voice and audio balancing is a critical mass of clear, soft, and expressive. Good job!