I live in China and would like to clarify a point that Elliot didn't make clear. As you can all see in the video, it’s not against local regulations to drive the Mini EV - or any micro electric car - in Shanghai. It’s just that passenger EVs that 1) either sell for less than 100k RMB 2) or are less than 4.6 meters long may not be *registered* in Shanghai. They are therefore not treated as local vehicles, and are allowed to use the city’s major ring roads and elevated expressways only at night. So why has Shanghai’s municipal government made such an odd decision? Analysts in the country concur that the ban is fundamentally a part of the city’s effort to reduce motor traffic. Major Chinese cities like Shanghai are not planned or built with motor vehicles in mind, because after all, private cars had been a rarity in the country until the 1990s. As a natural result, roads in those cities are increasingly overwhelmed. To prevent the congestion from worsening further, the mega-cities have taken a drastic step. Starting around 2012, people living in Shanghai can’t just pick up a car from the dealership and have the administration register it - not without a license. The licenses, which are released to the public rather sporadically, may be obtained through auctions held by the state*. As of 2022, such a license costs over 100k RMB on average. Then, in around 2015, came the tidal wave of electric vehicles. In order to promote the adoption of cars that emit less from the tailpipe and (more importantly) save fossil fuel, cities like Shanghai decided to exempt EVs and many plug-in hybrids from the restriction described above. In other words, each EV carries with itself a “license of registration”. While this new policy has really allowed China to jumpstart its electric car industry, it works at cross-purposes with the restriction it bypasses. Manufacturers, like Wuling and Leapmotor, both of which Fully Charged has covered in its videos, are incentivized to make cheap, basic electric rides because almost all battery electric cars are eligible for multiple national subsidies, but also because simply too many city dwellers need cars but can’t afford a license. The influx of micro EVs has put huge additional stress on Shanghai’s streets - note that no matter how small a car is, it still occupies considerable space on the driveway. That, compounded by the fact that most notable Chinese manufacturers of micro EVs are not located in Shanghai (even though Wuling is) and thus don’t contribute to the city’s revenues, eventually prompted the municipal administration to refuse to register any EV unless it costs more than 100k RMB and is over 4.6 meters long. Sorry, Smart 1. Here, it’s interesting to note that the Volkswagen ID.4 is manufactured and marketed separately by two of VW’s joint ventures with Chinese capital: the ID.4 X, which is made in Shanghai, is 461 cm long, while the ID.4 CROZZ, which is made elsewhere in China, is coincidentally 459 cm long. So, actually it’s quite understandable that Elliot didn’t really explain why he can’t fully enjoy the Wuling convertible in Shanghai, because the story is a really long one. *In Beijing there’re no auctions; rather, a “lottery” system decides which residents of the city get the much-coveted license. The longer a household stays in the lottery without winning it, the greater the odds become, but even so, calculations reveal that it takes at least 10 years for a Beijinger who signs up today to eventually win a license.
Thanks, Phillip, for explaining. I visited Shanghai regularly before the pandemic, and I can attest to how road traffic has increased exponentially in the last 10 years. It's no surprise the authorities have taken drastic measures. You mention that Shanghai's macro design isn't suited to private cars. The bigger take-home is that very few cities are (except a few US cities) Shanghai has had these decisions forced upon it, and the rest of the world's cities are heading in the same direction. We need to take heed.
I really like Micro cars. I had a 2003 Smart Four two and I loved it. I currently drive a 1970 Classic FIAT 500; again, superb and I love it. I’d like to ‘like’ this one but somehow…I don’t and that’s purely down to its looks. Undoubtedly a great little car though but how strange that it’s banned from a city! Exactly where it should be, albeit it does appear to have a good range. Not for me but the world is almost certainly a better place because of its existence.
@@lookoutleo No, they are only selling it in India, but they may do so in the future. For now, I am just comparing these two products according to their prices.
I lived in Shanghai. I expected it would be a problem if you were following a big diesel truck or bus in traffic. Maybe if you just go around Pudong and not go inside old Shanghai
Great video. For $12.000, We will buy it instantly. At the moment we ride a Smart Cabrio and looked at the 42kW Fiat 500e Cabrio. But at $36.000 !!!!! (Netherlands) it is idiotic expansive. So, yes, when it can do 300km range we wiill buy it.
@@turkishturk1296 Yes you can. This one has a range of 280km . . .It is lightweight remember. The Fiat 42kW 500e has a range of 320km. So many people have no clue what lightweight means. They all think EV's have to weigh 2.5 metric tons. There are several smaller EV's already proofing lightweight rules.
@@turkishturk1296 You dont need a highway to do 300km. We seldon use highways, maybe 1 time a month or so. We live, with 18 million other people and almost 9 million cars in the Netherlands. From the Dutch coast to Germany is 180km. We love the country lanes to travel. From home to work is 30km, the trafficjams are on the highway, so why use that?
I think it is nothing if compared to the leap motor mini-EV city car. That was the most fantastic car I had ever seen, review and explore cars like that...
Agree, the T03 is an amazing little car, all the usual safety features, 41kWh battery, heaps of features you get in much more expensive cars, yet costs around US$10k. If those could be brought to the rest of the world, you would see them everywhere...
If it costs 10k then why they try to sell it in my country at 33k... That despite huge tax breaks for EVs it's significantly more expensive then conventional and fully taxed subcompacts.
I'd consider it a major annoyance but I suspect it has something to do with maintaining rigidity in such a small car. No one ever said open top motoring was convenient.
That wouldn't bother me as i always put the two or three bags of shopping on the front passenger seat and in the footwell. The brake pedal postion, vague steering and crap brakes WOULD.
Interesting how, Elliot, you comment that none of Wuling Mini EV Cabrio's faults deter you from liking the car... because of the way it makes you 'feel'...! Exactly what EVERY car manufacturer should be focusing on - not making leviathan-sized, mega-cost SUVs... but, making affordable, accessible EVs that make you 'feel' wonderful inside 😃
Should have stuck with the 'cap test' rather than the wig. But then again, for such a fun car it makes sense to have fun with the video. Keep up the good work
"Before" state subsidies, you mean? More like 20k+. We all know what the car makers are doing since subsidies for electric cars were made available; artificial price inflation in order to pocket more cash. Once the subsidies are gone, prices will go down to "normal" levels.
I appreciate the price, and use in China to not need a 20,000$ license to drive one, but its hideous, fashion in cars shouldn't matter but, eeeeesh! honda Beat EV, now we're talking.
Is the roof weather proof, in a rainy climate? Perhaps the rectangles behind the seats are there for safety reasons. It looks very nice and useful, considering the price, not flimsy.
I like this little electric roller skate. I could see one of these parked in my driveway. And I could use it for a lot of my current trips, because most of them are local trips under 10 miles where highway speeds are not utilized. The question is, is it as good as or better than a Smart car EV or Fiat 500 EV convertible? Those are my bench marks of comparison. Because I have seen those and know what they are like. Or is it more comparable to the GEM electric low speed golf cart/utility low speed urban vehicle? I don’t give a rip if it’s allowed on the roads of Shanghai or not. I don’t live or visit there.
Forget the wig, I'm impressed that your hat didn't fly off while going 60kph. That is my actual concern. I like a convertible but I also like sun protection and I like to keep my hats!
city cars like this are built for the er, city, so I wonder why Shanghai have banned them? old school handbrakes are good. they work well, they're easy to use, cheap and easy to fix too
If you lose the retractable roof and put a regular one on, I'm sure it could be sold for under $10,000, which would still be a bit pricey for the Chinese market but massively appealing in other established markets. And using LFP batteries would make it even cheaper.
On the plus side, it lacks all those things that are a distraction for drivers. It's a basic bare bones design. Exactly what people need to stay non-distracted on the roads. Love it, but like so many great little cars in Asia, they won't hit the American roads. Shame!
I like it, but not being able to drive it in the city (I presume the same applies in Beijing) means it's a "no go" for me. It reminds me of the restriction on motorcycles - can't ride them on the ring roads in Beijing (except 'B' reg, or something like that, for some reason).
Steering mechanical linkages/hydraulic systems are still very much the same as for ICE vehicles. My understanding is there are very few, if any "steer-by-wire" EVs in production (which WOULD be easy to convert)
Except for the cool factor the little car seems to have a few shortcomings. The cool factor wears off after a while, the shortcomings stay. For what you get it's quite pricey. Wuling should work out how to make the storage compartment accessible from outside.
I asked people from China who drove that car and they said it's s*** I don't know why some of these TH-camrs push so much on this car is that company giving him money to advertise like I don't get it.
I watch all your videos and I enjoy everyone. Please try to say price's in Dollar like you use too... 009 and this many convertible you didn't say price's in Dollar. Thanks for your nice work.
OMG why come here (Australia) we used to manufacture many new vehicles here Holden, Ford, Chrysler, Shitsubisi, Toyota and some others, we have nothing now, ,,, quite sad, hence nothing to see here any more. Note worthy though is the fact these cheeeep chinesium things will just add more to our landfill problem.
I live in China and would like to clarify a point that Elliot didn't make clear.
As you can all see in the video, it’s not against local regulations to drive the Mini EV - or any micro electric car - in Shanghai. It’s just that passenger EVs that 1) either sell for less than 100k RMB 2) or are less than 4.6 meters long may not be *registered* in Shanghai. They are therefore not treated as local vehicles, and are allowed to use the city’s major ring roads and elevated expressways only at night. So why has Shanghai’s municipal government made such an odd decision?
Analysts in the country concur that the ban is fundamentally a part of the city’s effort to reduce motor traffic. Major Chinese cities like Shanghai are not planned or built with motor vehicles in mind, because after all, private cars had been a rarity in the country until the 1990s. As a natural result, roads in those cities are increasingly overwhelmed.
To prevent the congestion from worsening further, the mega-cities have taken a drastic step. Starting around 2012, people living in Shanghai can’t just pick up a car from the dealership and have the administration register it - not without a license. The licenses, which are released to the public rather sporadically, may be obtained through auctions held by the state*. As of 2022, such a license costs over 100k RMB on average.
Then, in around 2015, came the tidal wave of electric vehicles. In order to promote the adoption of cars that emit less from the tailpipe and (more importantly) save fossil fuel, cities like Shanghai decided to exempt EVs and many plug-in hybrids from the restriction described above. In other words, each EV carries with itself a “license of registration”. While this new policy has really allowed China to jumpstart its electric car industry, it works at cross-purposes with the restriction it bypasses.
Manufacturers, like Wuling and Leapmotor, both of which Fully Charged has covered in its videos, are incentivized to make cheap, basic electric rides because almost all battery electric cars are eligible for multiple national subsidies, but also because simply too many city dwellers need cars but can’t afford a license. The influx of micro EVs has put huge additional stress on Shanghai’s streets - note that no matter how small a car is, it still occupies considerable space on the driveway.
That, compounded by the fact that most notable Chinese manufacturers of micro EVs are not located in Shanghai (even though Wuling is) and thus don’t contribute to the city’s revenues, eventually prompted the municipal administration to refuse to register any EV unless it costs more than 100k RMB and is over 4.6 meters long. Sorry, Smart 1. Here, it’s interesting to note that the Volkswagen ID.4 is manufactured and marketed separately by two of VW’s joint ventures with Chinese capital: the ID.4 X, which is made in Shanghai, is 461 cm long, while the ID.4 CROZZ, which is made elsewhere in China, is coincidentally 459 cm long.
So, actually it’s quite understandable that Elliot didn’t really explain why he can’t fully enjoy the Wuling convertible in Shanghai, because the story is a really long one.
*In Beijing there’re no auctions; rather, a “lottery” system decides which residents of the city get the much-coveted license. The longer a household stays in the lottery without winning it, the greater the odds become, but even so, calculations reveal that it takes at least 10 years for a Beijinger who signs up today to eventually win a license.
Thanks for clarifying.
Thanks!
Thanks. Your work here is appreciated!
well explained
Thanks, Phillip, for explaining. I visited Shanghai regularly before the pandemic, and I can attest to how road traffic has increased exponentially in the last 10 years. It's no surprise the authorities have taken drastic measures.
You mention that Shanghai's macro design isn't suited to private cars. The bigger take-home is that very few cities are (except a few US cities) Shanghai has had these decisions forced upon it, and the rest of the world's cities are heading in the same direction. We need to take heed.
Very nice ! thing is if it comes to the UK the price will probably double otherwise every kid on the block would have one
Another great little video featuring a Wuling MiniEV. Such an excellent little runabout for anyone who needs no more than it offers.
Would be a great city car for UK
I really like Micro cars. I had a 2003 Smart Four two and I loved it. I currently drive a 1970 Classic FIAT 500; again, superb and I love it.
I’d like to ‘like’ this one but somehow…I don’t and that’s purely down to its looks.
Undoubtedly a great little car though but how strange that it’s banned from a city! Exactly where it should be, albeit it does appear to have a good range.
Not for me but the world is almost certainly a better place because of its existence.
Why can't we get to buy cars like this in the UK, Just brilliant and still quite cheap
Simply search the internet for Tata Tiago EV, which costs around $10,000 and is much larger and safer than this Chinese EV.
@@amanwadte1495 I'm in the UK, have had Tata pickups they were great . Not sure Tata are selling electric here
@@lookoutleo No, they are only selling it in India, but they may do so in the future. For now, I am just comparing these two products according to their prices.
@@lookoutleo safe ? how is tata euro ncap data ?
@@kogrea5792 0 probably but who cares, life is fast and this world is gonna kill us in a horrible way anyways....better to go out quick
Don’t worry if it comes to the uk it will be 35k
And that is if the UK government doesn't label this car as a national security risk.
UK has MG..in my country no single China EV and ID3 cost 45K euro
@@dzonikg MG bought by Chinese ，again "national security risk".
@@hermesliteratus882 How can a car be a national security risk?
If you don't mind it being left hand drive you could have it shipped to UK for around a grand. Don't know what the import duty would be though
I'd love to be able to upgrade the motor/esc and batteries. Make this into a proper little hot cabrio
Yessir
This reminds me of the odd geo metro cabrio from the 90s lol
that was waaay bigger :D
OMG. It's like a Power Wheels for adults. I want one!
Been waiting for you to review this.
It's cute. Looks like a silver Cross pram on small wheels .
Cool video
Kudos to whoever done the BGM in this episode. I dig it!
I would buy this now… if it was available in the us of a
At least Robert now knows of a suitable stunt double for Duane Dibbley in Red Dwarf. 🙂
so cute! would love on in UK next summer:)
On both days? 😁😁😆
absolutely fantastic and practical on first look.
I lived in Shanghai. I expected it would be a problem if you were following a big diesel truck or bus in traffic. Maybe if you just go around Pudong and not go inside old Shanghai
We have wuling air ev. Updated version of that car. But no convertible just yet
yo i kinda dig the charger it comes with, its cute
Great video. For $12.000, We will buy it instantly. At the moment we ride a Smart Cabrio and looked at the 42kW Fiat 500e Cabrio. But at $36.000 !!!!! (Netherlands) it is idiotic expansive.
So, yes, when it can do 300km range we wiill buy it.
You can't have a car this small and 300km range.
@@turkishturk1296 Yes you can. This one has a range of 280km . . .It is lightweight remember. The Fiat 42kW 500e has a range of 320km. So many people have no clue what lightweight means. They all think EV's have to weigh 2.5 metric tons.
There are several smaller EV's already proofing lightweight rules.
@@BMWHP2 I mean, maybe. 300km range is at city traffic speeds. You can't expect that at highway speed at all.
I would never buy Fiat
@@turkishturk1296 You dont need a highway to do 300km. We seldon use highways, maybe 1 time a month or so. We live, with 18 million other people and almost 9 million cars in the Netherlands. From the Dutch coast to Germany is 180km. We love the country lanes to travel. From home to work is 30km, the trafficjams are on the highway, so why use that?
Yup, I'd buy one!
Chuck some bull bars and offroad tyres on, jack suspension up and it's a modern suzuki sj410. Looks loadsa fun
Love your work (and your wig) 👍
I honestly just want an electric Miata. Loved my green '07
MG cyberster?
I think it is nothing if compared to the leap motor mini-EV city car. That was the most fantastic car I had ever seen, review and explore cars like that...
Agree, the T03 is an amazing little car, all the usual safety features, 41kWh battery, heaps of features you get in much more expensive cars, yet costs around US$10k. If those could be brought to the rest of the world, you would see them everywhere...
If it costs 10k then why they try to sell it in my country at 33k...
That despite huge tax breaks for EVs it's significantly more expensive then conventional and fully taxed subcompacts.
The boot access would be a deal breaker for me. Imagine trying to get your get your bags of groceries in and out!
I'd consider it a major annoyance but I suspect it has something to do with maintaining rigidity in such a small car. No one ever said open top motoring was convenient.
That wouldn't bother me as i always put the two or three bags of shopping on the front passenger seat and in the footwell. The brake pedal postion, vague steering and crap brakes WOULD.
It is absolutely amazing how China has changed.
God this is such a cute car, I really really want one
The fact it used to only have 1 air bag is the beginning and end for me.
The sexied up the Mini EV by cutting off the roof. 😎
Just say CONGRATS for image, sound and reporter very good job on par almost to BBC.
Cristian
On the rear replace the axel with a solid beam and in-heel hub motors and the Mini-EV`s brother`s front motor in the front... :)
Love it! Bring it to the UK.
It needs a holder for mobile phone on the dash board like VW E-Up has. That will solve the lack of navigation system.
3:13 David Baddiel in the 90's
Did you guys shoot the first scen at Costco? I was wondering why it looked so familiar to me LOL
Interesting how, Elliot, you comment that none of Wuling Mini EV Cabrio's faults deter you from liking the car... because of the way it makes you 'feel'...!
Exactly what EVERY car manufacturer should be focusing on - not making leviathan-sized, mega-cost SUVs... but, making affordable, accessible EVs that make you 'feel' wonderful inside 😃
Should have stuck with the 'cap test' rather than the wig. But then again, for such a fun car it makes sense to have fun with the video.
Keep up the good work
Wuling just launched new Wuling Air EV for Indonesia market only.
The design more cute .
I was buying Kabriolett Beetles in the '80s
Could this be the next BIG thing?
Maybe it'll fit in my CYBRTRK
This car is literally what we all need
speak for yourself. where do you put the 4x8 sheets of plywood and drywall?
Ok cool how much if they get to uk £16000?
"Before" state subsidies, you mean? More like 20k+. We all know what the car makers are doing since subsidies for electric cars were made available; artificial price inflation in order to pocket more cash. Once the subsidies are gone, prices will go down to "normal" levels.
14.5😊
Great video as always Elliot 😂
Already in Indonesia 6/1 Years Ago, Wuling Mini EV But Closed Roof Version Using Wuling Mini EV in Video G20 Summit 2022 Bali
Harga brp bang Opan.....kabarnyaasih diatas 200..apa benar...
Is it available in the UK? Does it Rapid Charge.?
no and no
@@davefroman4700 this one rapid charges. The old model does not
BIG QUESTION: Isn't a silent car--not announcing its presence its surroundings--not dangerous to pedestrians and cyclists?
Why they banned small cars from driving inside cities?
Yes it did turn heads - the other way
I appreciate the price, and use in China to not need a 20,000$ license to drive one, but its hideous, fashion in cars shouldn't matter but, eeeeesh! honda Beat EV, now we're talking.
Is the roof weather proof, in a rainy climate? Perhaps the rectangles behind the seats are there for safety reasons. It looks very nice and useful, considering the price, not flimsy.
Why would they ban a car that is built for the city, from the city? Safety is my guess.....
It would be safe if they banned the big cars. 😂
You are not from Shanghai, China, so you don't need to be aware of this issue.
Tesla and VW has their factories at Shanghai, and Mini EV is from another city. So…
I'm waiting for Chery eq1 test
This IMO would be great in gated communities where people live and work local,
I like this little electric roller skate. I could see one of these parked in my driveway. And I could use it for a lot of my current trips, because most of them are local trips under 10 miles where highway speeds are not utilized.
The question is, is it as good as or better than a Smart car EV or Fiat 500 EV convertible? Those are my bench marks of comparison. Because I have seen those and know what they are like. Or is it more comparable to the GEM electric low speed golf cart/utility low speed urban vehicle?
I don’t give a rip if it’s allowed on the roads of Shanghai or not. I don’t live or visit there.
costs less than half the price.
so doesn't have to be better.
That ban of small cars in city does that make sense? Cool car and video"
Forget the wig, I'm impressed that your hat didn't fly off while going 60kph. That is my actual concern. I like a convertible but I also like sun protection and I like to keep my hats!
How long were you looked up in the covid lock down Elliot? Any protests going on around you?
I’d love to own this car 🚙
I don’t need a fast car
I need this
city cars like this are built for the er, city, so I wonder why Shanghai have banned them?
old school handbrakes are good. they work well, they're easy to use, cheap and easy to fix too
Tokyo cap in Shanghai... Ballsy!
Coming to the US?
Wish we had this (or the standard version) instead of the Ami in the UK
If you lose the retractable roof and put a regular one on, I'm sure it could be sold for under $10,000, which would still be a bit pricey for the Chinese market but massively appealing in other established markets. And using LFP batteries would make it even cheaper.
A $10k EV, a $10k convertible that can change roof while moving.
I am waiting for a hardtop EV, preferably an SEV. I currently own a Chrysler 2008 Sebring hardtop convertible.
Did Kryten, err, I mean Robert ask his old mate Dwayne Dibbley to make a cameo @3:34 ? :D
It is teeny weeny, similar in size to a quadricycle like the Ami, what a shame it cant be ridden like one.
Elliot has done it again....The star in the car
Would love to see Doug DeMuro test this! :D
...or Aging Wheels!
On the plus side, it lacks all those things that are a distraction for drivers. It's a basic bare bones design. Exactly what people need to stay non-distracted on the roads. Love it, but like so many great little cars in Asia, they won't hit the American roads. Shame!
Looking great with the wig
Good Looking SMALL Car !!,, Will it come to the UK?? Also, why is this call ban from the city ??
You in a wig looks like a young Graham Coxon from Blur!
I like it, but not being able to drive it in the city (I presume the same applies in Beijing) means it's a "no go" for me. It reminds me of the restriction on motorcycles - can't ride them on the ring roads in Beijing (except 'B' reg, or something like that, for some reason).
Its banned from Bejing, not from any other city
@@udishomer5852 Eh? Elliot is in Shanghai, not Beijing.
He looks a bit like Mat Armstrong in that wig!
Why do these cars have such small wheels?
An interesting cute little convertible EV.
Question to those who may know... I'm assuming it would be easier to change the side the steering wheel is in an ev that it is for an ice vehicle.
I mean why would u assume so?
Steering mechanical linkages/hydraulic systems are still very much the same as for ICE vehicles. My understanding is there are very few, if any "steer-by-wire" EVs in production (which WOULD be easy to convert)
@@haydensmith8368 thanks for the info. And have a great weekend 🤘
I want this in London.
14.5K DOLL😂😂😂
Tesla should of developed a mini like this years ago, could of been the real game changer since most could afford one.
Nope
looks like a blast to drive but a death trap on an American highway
I love it ! I love it ! I love 3 !
and it's electric.
Is it possible to charge it at fast chargers with an adapter ?
so which your prefer between this cars and my Proton Waja SL concepts?
How does the wig look? You look like Moe with glasses. 😂
How far will it go mister?
Door alignment at 02:45 doesn't look so good! Maybe it's meant to be that way.
Top speed (could it go on the highway if needed or not) range en how fast can it charge?. I checked back to the essential info but it wasn’t there.
Except for the cool factor the little car seems to have a few shortcomings. The cool factor wears off after a while, the shortcomings stay. For what you get it's quite pricey. Wuling should work out how to make the storage compartment accessible from outside.
I want anytime in Sydney
Cities aren't noisy, cars are.
This is so cool! How do I buy one in California?
It's a limited edition...
I asked people from China who drove that car and they said it's s*** I don't know why some of these TH-camrs push so much on this car is that company giving him money to advertise like I don't get it.
Thank you
I watch all your videos and I enjoy everyone.
Please try to say price's in Dollar like you use too... 009 and this many convertible you didn't say price's in Dollar.
Thanks for your nice work.
14.5K
I want one, somebody’s gotta be importing these like they do changlis
you can import for less than they charge usually. It's not too hard you can find people to deal with the paperwork
현대파, 기아차는 컨버터블 언제 만드나요?
What is an RNB
OMG why come here (Australia) we used to manufacture many new vehicles here Holden, Ford, Chrysler, Shitsubisi, Toyota and some others, we have nothing now, ,,, quite sad, hence nothing to see here any more.
Note worthy though is the fact these cheeeep chinesium things will just add more to our landfill problem.