I upgraded from the 830 to the 1030 plus just for the screen. I love the size. However, man, this thing is buggy. I’m on my second unit as the first one was replaced by garmin (good support experience) for repeatedly freezing my location on the map during navigation when I pass under a specific tunnel. Unfortunately, My second unit still freezes occasionally in the one spot. Secondly, IT DOES NOT DO STRAVA LIVE SEGMENTS RELIABLY,
I disagree with the part regarding micro usb. If you want your device to last and use it for a long time it is super annoying to get new products that don't switch to USB C.
100% this! Plus micro usb is significantly more fragile than usbc. I've killed many a charge port on Garmin's and phones with micro usbs inability to resist flexing.
Isn't Micro USB the euro standard on phones because of a law European Commission passed? That is probably why Europe has been slow to adapt Type C... however I think lawmakers want Type C on everything going forward, so that may change.
@@parthmache4733 There's is NO such thing as "future proofing". Especially when it comes to USB formats. There have been EIGHT different kinds already (A, B, C, Micro A, Micro B, Mini 5-pin, Mini 4-pin, and 3.0). In another year or so, you'll be telling us that D is so much better than C and "future proof".
Uhhh... Micro USB needs to go away. USB C is more than a form factor difference. Anything that "takes a few minutes" should take seconds over USB C. Also charging gets a significant time boost and there's no guessing on what way to plug in a device. I probably won't upgrade until Garmin devices change to USB C.
It's just a charging cable. Data runs over wifi with this device. And if you really have to guess how to plug in a micro-USB, you need some help. It's flat on one side and rounded on the other. Try lining up the flat sides...
@@backpacker3421 sometimes, when someone loves something very much, they have strong feelings about things. I'll be okay. You'll be okay. This will all be okay. If you don't have strong feelings about USB C, that's fine. But, I'm at a point where the vast majority of my devices are on USB C and I'm seeing a future where I will only need one type of power/data cable and I think it's a very cool thing. Thanks for trying to help or solve my issues. You can't. But, I do hope Garmin hears folks and finds a way to make USB C happen on their devices soon.
6:04 what if you've got polarizing sunglasses on? This made my Garmin impossible to see but when I put a matte screen protector on it suddenly became usable again.
It's arguably the best version yet (and expensive for it), but I've always felt that if this is the best there is, there is room for a serious competitor in this market. I personally wouldn't mind an even larger screen (as my eyesight isn't what it used to be)
I understand where you're coming from, I'm the wrong side of 45, and have to squint to see my small Polar, but, at this point, might you be better off using your phone?
@@ErwinHeiser Sorry, I have absolutely no idea..... As I said, I run a (small) Polar 450. I would suppose, one of the newer iPhone models that are decently waterproof, if you can stomach the thought of possibly damaging it in a crash.
wow jack, shots fired. triathletes across the world will be peeing their bikes and falling over their salt-encrusted handlebars to disagree. on a more serious note, sock choice on point
Great review Jack. Think I know my next new toy. ;-). Also, as a rider in my late 50s, it’s impressive for me to see your VO2 Max at 62 ........oh how I can only wish of a number like that!
Love my 1030 Plus...I use it with my MTB and my Egravel Tons of info, touch screen works perfect even with gloves, battery last an eternity, never had an issue...best computer money can buy
I have just had my old 1030 upgraded to the 1030+ and when I synced it all my old rides did not come across as I expected any tips on how to do it, as I have rides back to 2011 on Connect. Many thanks and yes this film was brill.
Overall, I found the review articulate and thorough. Big hat-tip to you. Many thanks. Also, at 3:45 -- "At 124 grams it's also one of the heaviest computers on the market. But who cares?" Finally, a dose of reason for the weight-weenies.
OK I have a brand new 1030 Plus and the screen is nothing like it's portrayed in online ads or in this video. Yes I'm looking at it outside and it's just a low contrast image with low saturation in the colors and no snap to it. Any ideas?
@@rafadybek8273 Yes have been using it for a few weeks now and once you get used to it outside it looks great. I'm super happy with it. Way more info than I'll ever need but great combo with the iPhone app. Strong recommend!
I love all the people running out to gripe about "no USB-C" and how they will boycott Garmin until they move over to USB-C. LOL. Relax folks. It's a charging cable. The total number of times you need to run data over it is almost zero. So if you really want to stick with your old computer because of the shape of the charging cable, don't let me stop you. Meanwhile, I'll be biking double centuries on the 1030+ without a spare battery pack... enjoying the 24-hour battery life. Cuz I don't care what shape the charging cable plug is.
Was looking at getting a computer for my mountain bike riding. I've no interest in the maps or navigation, only the hang time, grit and stuff. Would the 130plus be a good option? I've already got a fenix 5x, would this pair up for tge heart rate and stuff? Cheers for the videos.
As user of the 520 plus, very happy with him, and a E trex 30, now I think this is perfect. Simply perfect. Yes some anoying things, but now I cannot use the e trex due the small stems, so I need a lage screen to navigate in new areas far from my home, so to train and navigate? This one instead the other combo.
I have created routes on RideWithGPS in order to travel long distances on my bicycle. Will the Garmin Edge 1030 show the Points of Interest (POI) I have added to my maps? I love my WAHOO but having a GPS unit that helps me navigate during my travels would be a deal breaker. Thanks !
@@atticushexcel9567 they start turning into cycling weakly , on top of that, the race recap pretty much just the worst on youtube, pretty much just read the screen, zero analyzing at all!
Hello BikeRadar Could you guys pleas test some cheaper full sus bikes like a cube stereo 120 pro and canyon neuron 6 And more bikes that around 1500 to 2000€
Just got mine, so only one ride using it. Easy set up. Had to run the screen on the brightest setting. The 1030 is much more responsive than my old 130. I used the 10 data screen and could see all data no problem. Love that I can go from screen to screen while riding my just swiping the screen. I am a metrics nerd so I love the 1030.
How is the screen contrast versus the 1030? The contrast on my 1030 was poor so now that it is broken interested if the contrast/sharpness is any better on the 1030+. If the contrast is the same I may switch to the Karoo-2 just for the better screen contrast.
Maybe one day - I keep threatening to ask the video team to put something together but there's simply too much new swag to talk about! Keep asking and eventually, I'll crack. Thanks for commenting, Jack
I have had the Garmin 820 Edge for a few years now and was pretty happy with it but the battery life seems to be dwindling. I’ve also had an issue with it automatically syncing to my iPhone with Garmin Connect after I did a software update a while back. I have to turn the computer off and back on when I get for the ride to upload through my WiFi. My question is, should I upgrade to the 1030 plus or 830 plus? Is it worth the investment or should I wait until my 820 edge battery is just completely worn out and then upgrade?
Jack what happened to the 1030 as shown at 3:08? ... I'm going to keep yelling from the mountain tops and this illustrates it perfectly, Garmin needs to fix their screen durability issues, the glass that is used on all of the 30 series edge units doesn't survive even the smallest crash. I love my 830, navigation is normally great (only wish there was an option to reverse a route), metrics galore, and battery life is epic; but on my 3rd unit!
What is the maximum data windows that can be displayed at the same time when one is viewing the map screen? I know that on the Garmin 830 it's two. Others have indicated to me that it doesn't matter because it's easy to scroll between the pure data pages and the map but, still, I'd like to know if the 1030 has more data that can be viewed with the map screen than does the 830.
Not having USB PD for fast charging in 2020 is a major flaw. Also having had the misfortune of owning a 1030 before - with software that is still buggy in version 10 of the firmware - I am highly hesitant to consider giving Garmin more money.
Hey ! Thanks for the video, i have two questions regarding the GPS precision. I own a Edge 1000 and an old Forerunner. On zig-zag road, downhill in mountain, the gps pointer is 1 or 2 seconds delayed in comparison to my current position. How is the refreshment rate on these new units ?
Batterylife of the 820 is declining, so I bought this one for 450 euro after the introduction of the 1040. Bigger screen for navigation and way better response does it for me.
I’d never go back to Garmin, shocking battery life actual vs claimed, constant crashing and clunky UX uploading maps and non-existent customer support. I met with someone who used to work for Garmin on a ride the other day who echoed all these points. Went Wahoo after three duff Garmins and never looked back. Ride with gps have been syncing with Wahoo for years. This looks like a better product but the price is absurd
I owned the Edge 1000 so I can't really comment on this new one but...the 1000 hailed and loved in every review was an absolute heap of atrocious garbage. The maps were a joke, the touchscreen was as responsive as an old deaf dog and the syncing worked randomly so I'll be definitely considering the wahoo.
Interesting. I'm sitting here with syncing issues with my Wahoo companion app (oddly enough, the device, Elemnt Roam, has the routes while the app doesn't), and despite having a Wahoo speed sensor paired with the head unit I'm still getting really stupid numbers for maximum speed on occasion. (Just today it said I did over 126 mph... I wish.) So, I am considering switching to a Garmin 1030 Plus.
@@KurtMueller no one. 5 nums on screen balans %, w,cad, hr , grade. Map fine too. But no digital compass there and you need to ride for correct arrow. direction
It would also be really nice if you could pair the Edge 1030 plus to a Bluetooth speaker (like the JBL Charge) so that it would call out turn by turn directions so you don't have to look at a tiny screen at 20mph in traffic. I really miss the auditory turn by turn directions from my old car Garmin.. (that old model had a bicycle mode and would not try to put the cyclist on the freeway) LOL
Touchscreen won't work in heavy rain...goin nuts and gos off into different screens...even changed settings 1 day on me from heavy rain drops. Wont work wit gloves. And even sweet from turbo will set off Touchscreen. And screen will look smeared after 1 touch on a dry day... Im goin back to 530 wit buttons
@@KurtMueller I don't use nav as a primary screen so no comment there, but I get plenty of room for essential info without cluttering the screen up using two screens I flip between.
It's a freaking joke that it's almost 2021 and you still can't configure data screens on your phone or laptop (even though you suggest here that you can I don't know how you'd do that). They are taking the piss.
My Wish List.. i would like Garmin to make an EDGE the size of the 1030 plus, but only have the navigation feature of the simpler Edge Explore 2... I don't need training stuff, i'm very low vision, and need turn by turn directions that i can see and that is really simple to put in an address and say "GO"... I can't see the explore because it's too small.. I can see the 1030 plus, but who (other than a pro cyclist) needs all that clutter that make is too complicated to operate.. The best would be if you could put the Garmin cycling maps on the Garmin motorcycle size screen... But they are not interchangeable maps.. LOL Someone with influence needs to talk to the design team at Garmin and ask for the "handicap accessible" version of the 1030..LOL Thanks.
The entire point of structured workouts is to limit your rest and ride the full interval. If you're doing your 'structured' workout in an area where lights and other obstructions wreck the 'structure' it's not really having the same effect and you can still manually pause anyway.
@@psycheout4733 I'm not a professional athlete. I live in a fairly densely populated area. I'm not riding a trainer year round. Auto pause doesn't need to be set to default, but to not give the option for auto-pause is an oversight. At this point, I'll just buy a Wahoo next as their head units have that feature.
@@savonaaaron Again, you don't understand the meaning of structured training then. I've lived in Los Angeles, Boston and San Francisco... all 'densely populated areas' and it really only takes a 30 min warmup (or less drive) to find a place where you can do your intervals. Especially now, nearly all commercial areas are empty. Copping out to "not a professional athlete" assumes most people are? ... Just press stop since you can't be bothered to find an area where you're not interrupted by traffic. Notice you have no likes? Because it defeats the purpose of structured training.
Can it display the HR data from my Apple Watch as I ride? Can anything? Apps on my iPHONE can’t seem to. I mean, what am I supposed to do, look at my wrist like a phillistine?
It depends on whether the Apple Watch can broadcast over ANT+ or Bluetooth LTE. A cursory Google search suggests no: discussions.apple.com/thread/7986518
The higher capacity 32 GB (to 16 GB of the original 1030) doesn't compensate for the missing microSD card slot on the 1030 plus. That's a very bad decision by Garmin to the "improved" 1030 plus. On the original 1030 you could even add microSD cards with 32 GB (without any firmware on it for maps only - with formating FAT32 even larger microSD cards). When the processor is faster the microSD slot would have been even better. I really don't understand Garmin's decision because other devices (handheld outdoor GPS) still use this microSD card slot! 🤔
Had the 1030 in spring for 1 week. Didn't convince me. I use my phone with Adidas Runtastic for local riding and Komoot for adventure. Much easier. Have send it back.
I can never understand why they don't include the buttons that the 530 has *in addition to* the touch screen. Like, it's their flagship device, far and away the most expensive one most people would be willing to buy, and where I live, there are significant chunks of the year when you can't use it normally/conveniently. I guess adding buttons is like admitting that the touch screen on its own doesn't cover every need and thus is not as premium a feature as it appears to be on the surface. But the fact that smartphones are purely touch-operated and that one can't use them with big gloves or in the rain/snow is one of the major arguments for switching to a dedicated computer (I also just hate trying to use a touch screen on my handlebars while I'm moving, particularly if it's bumpy, but that's a personal thing). All in all then, it doesn't make sense to me to manufacture a computer that is essentially operated exactly like a smartphone (and more clunkily, at that). Now to be fair, buttons by themselves come with their own drawbacks too. I would love to see Garmin go the Karoo or Sigma route and make a device that is both touch- and button-operated. It seems like it would be so easy for them to implement and then most/all conceivable conditions of use would be covered. I could probably ignore all the other weird UI, software and hardware choices Garmin makes, and would buy the 830 or 1030 this very second if only they also had buttons.
@@LegSpinna Just give it 10 years, than it will be obsolete to tell the prices in pounds. Nobody (including the Scots and Welsh) but the English will use that anymore.
@@Big2Planker both me and my brother have one and we’ve had sensors not connecting/disconnecting, crashing, uploads failing, corrupt ride data and navigation failing. Edge 1000 had no issues in over 2 years but we do like the 1030 plus just needs another update. Surly we can’t both have duff units LOL.
After my second Garmin Edge 520 died unexpectedly I decided to try something different - the Wahoo ELEMNT Bolt instead of the Garmin 530. Boy! I'm glad I did. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxXZCtB-wGdHVTBSz8RswePK5vllHNi06N The display on the Wahoo Bolt is much easier to read. I like the configuration of the display more (up to 7 items visible on page 1 without scrolling and the first item chosen is larger characters than the next 3 rows that have pairs of items (still very readable). I also like the configurable item selections. The Bolt synced with my Garmin ANT+ Speed sensors on both bikes easily so no additional investment was required there. While the rated battery life is a couple hours less than the Garmin 520/530, I easily get a weeks worth of 1+ hour rides before recharging (and it's never really low on charge). At the end of a ride syncing to the Wahoo app, Strava, and Apple Health app is painless.
i really dont get, why cant smart phone eat up. this product, it has bigger battrey, more iq, bigger screen, just need ant+ certified and better gps chip.
I must say, I clicked on this video in order to learn your opinion of the Garmin edge, not to listen to the back ground noise that sounds as if some woman is practicing making obnoxious, ill noises.
I question how it is that you ride a bicycle from the couch, you spend a lot of time on the couch. When you are on the couch, it should be for a noble purpose, like impregnating a lady. You do know about ladies, eh?
@@ericmagee9054 yes very similar in size, more screen on the new model. Would totally suggest the rubber boot thing. But I’d have to say if you are just using this on local trails you might go with a smaller unit. I can totally attest to crashing with might, flying off the top of my car, tumbling down the steps. Basically I have a lot of reasons I never borrow other people’s stuff.
Download wahoo app on your phone you are done. Why do you need a computer if you have a phone. Your phone is already an octacore, has Google maps, all radios, GPS chip. And phone lasts well over 7 hours on a ride with some phone now having 6000mah batteries having batteries even longer. we all know garmin does not last as advertised. Bike computers were relevant a decade ago but now they are pushed by marketing.
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'Advantages of micro USB over USB-C' wtf you on mate.
I upgraded from the 830 to the 1030 plus just for the screen. I love the size. However, man, this thing is buggy. I’m on my second unit as the first one was replaced by garmin (good support experience) for repeatedly freezing my location on the map during navigation when I pass under a specific tunnel. Unfortunately, My second unit still freezes occasionally in the one spot. Secondly, IT DOES NOT DO STRAVA LIVE SEGMENTS RELIABLY,
I disagree with the part regarding micro usb. If you want your device to last and use it for a long time it is super annoying to get new products that don't switch to USB C.
100% this! Plus micro usb is significantly more fragile than usbc. I've killed many a charge port on Garmin's and phones with micro usbs inability to resist flexing.
No USB C, no buy.
Usb c has minor advantages has he lost his mind, transfer speeds, charging speed, port universality and future proofing
Isn't Micro USB the euro standard on phones because of a law European Commission passed? That is probably why Europe has been slow to adapt Type C... however I think lawmakers want Type C on everything going forward, so that may change.
@@parthmache4733 There's is NO such thing as "future proofing". Especially when it comes to USB formats. There have been EIGHT different kinds already (A, B, C, Micro A, Micro B, Mini 5-pin, Mini 4-pin, and 3.0). In another year or so, you'll be telling us that D is so much better than C and "future proof".
I bought it yesterday.
I think this is a bicycle computer №1.
Were you successful with your audition navigating to GCN Studios?
lol is that Legit?
@@hellopsp180 th-cam.com/video/kq1_f1LVhYE/w-d-xo.html I can't think what else they might have been beginning to type ^_^
"If you're incapable of [knowing when to feed yourself]... maybe if you're a triathlete." Nicely done.
Uhhh... Micro USB needs to go away. USB C is more than a form factor difference. Anything that "takes a few minutes" should take seconds over USB C. Also charging gets a significant time boost and there's no guessing on what way to plug in a device. I probably won't upgrade until Garmin devices change to USB C.
It's just a charging cable. Data runs over wifi with this device. And if you really have to guess how to plug in a micro-USB, you need some help. It's flat on one side and rounded on the other. Try lining up the flat sides...
@@backpacker3421 sometimes, when someone loves something very much, they have strong feelings about things. I'll be okay. You'll be okay. This will all be okay. If you don't have strong feelings about USB C, that's fine. But, I'm at a point where the vast majority of my devices are on USB C and I'm seeing a future where I will only need one type of power/data cable and I think it's a very cool thing. Thanks for trying to help or solve my issues. You can't. But, I do hope Garmin hears folks and finds a way to make USB C happen on their devices soon.
6:04 what if you've got polarizing sunglasses on? This made my Garmin impossible to see but when I put a matte screen protector on it suddenly became usable again.
It's arguably the best version yet (and expensive for it), but I've always felt that if this is the best there is, there is room for a serious competitor in this market. I personally wouldn't mind an even larger screen (as my eyesight isn't what it used to be)
I understand where you're coming from, I'm the wrong side of 45, and have to squint to see my small Polar, but, at this point, might you be better off using your phone?
@@richardhaselwood9478 What would you suggest as an alternative then? My current phone is an iPhone 8.
@@ErwinHeiser Sorry, I have absolutely no idea..... As I said, I run a (small) Polar 450. I would suppose, one of the newer iPhone models that are decently waterproof, if you can stomach the thought of possibly damaging it in a crash.
I didn’t catch any comments on how well the touch screen does in inclement weather. Does rain screw with it?
No, it works well with rain or sweat.
does it feel like a phone from 2005? definitely looks like it
Screen resolution is definitely from 2005
wow jack, shots fired. triathletes across the world will be peeing their bikes and falling over their salt-encrusted handlebars to disagree.
on a more serious note, sock choice on point
Great review Jack. Think I know my next new toy. ;-). Also, as a rider in my late 50s, it’s impressive for me to see your VO2 Max at 62 ........oh how I can only wish of a number like that!
Love my 1030 Plus...I use it with my MTB and my Egravel
Tons of info, touch screen works perfect even with gloves, battery last an eternity, never had an issue...best computer money can buy
How’s it holding up now? I’m using a 1030 plus on my mtb
@@mattdelgado3825 Hi! Like the first day…after 2 years the battery last the same and everything works great…best computer in my opinion
Is 1030+ still worth buying today? Or would Garmin stop supporting it anytime soon?
GCN approves the review and the reviewer
I have just had my old 1030 upgraded to the 1030+ and when I synced it all my old rides did not come across as I expected any tips on how to do it, as I have rides back to 2011 on Connect. Many thanks and yes this film was brill.
when will they add a front light to the Garmin? I would pay a premium for that!
Overall, I found the review articulate and thorough. Big hat-tip to you. Many thanks.
Also, at 3:45 -- "At 124 grams it's also one of the heaviest computers on the market. But who cares?" Finally, a dose of reason for the weight-weenies.
Thanks for watching!
So well done. Many thanks.oh and btw, I noticed at least 3 awesome bikes. Lucky guy. I have the 1030+ and it is indisputably the best in market.
OK I have a brand new 1030 Plus and the screen is nothing like it's portrayed in online ads or in this video. Yes I'm looking at it outside and it's just a low contrast image with low saturation in the colors and no snap to it. Any ideas?
Hi. Were you able to fix the color problem on the display?
Hi. Were you able to fix the color problem on the display?
@@rafadybek8273 Yes have been using it for a few weeks now and once you get used to it outside it looks great. I'm super happy with it. Way more info than I'll ever need but great combo with the iPhone app. Strong recommend!
@@fullspeedfly1370 Thank you very much for your answer. And are the colors on the outside also more vivid and clear, like in this movie?
@@rafadybek8273 Yes the screen is fine outside. The color & contrast don't compare to the video but it looks great.
I love all the people running out to gripe about "no USB-C" and how they will boycott Garmin until they move over to USB-C. LOL. Relax folks. It's a charging cable. The total number of times you need to run data over it is almost zero. So if you really want to stick with your old computer because of the shape of the charging cable, don't let me stop you. Meanwhile, I'll be biking double centuries on the 1030+ without a spare battery pack... enjoying the 24-hour battery life. Cuz I don't care what shape the charging cable plug is.
Was looking at getting a computer for my mountain bike riding. I've no interest in the maps or navigation, only the hang time, grit and stuff. Would the 130plus be a good option? I've already got a fenix 5x, would this pair up for tge heart rate and stuff? Cheers for the videos.
As user of the 520 plus, very happy with him, and a E trex 30, now I think this is perfect. Simply perfect. Yes some anoying things, but now I cannot use the e trex due the small stems, so I need a lage screen to navigate in new areas far from my home, so to train and navigate? This one instead the other combo.
I have created routes on RideWithGPS in order to travel long distances on my bicycle. Will the Garmin Edge 1030 show the Points of Interest (POI) I have added to my maps? I love my WAHOO but having a GPS unit that helps me navigate during my travels would be a deal breaker. Thanks !
do i still need to install the garmin speed sensor if i already have power meter ?
9:05 GCN SUX?
Yes, yes they do.
Totally.
@@atticushexcel9567 they start turning into cycling weakly , on top of that, the race recap pretty much just the worst on youtube, pretty much just read the screen, zero analyzing at all!
What to buy?, this Garmin Edge 1030, or a pair of HUNT carbon wheels(they are much expensive)? What is a must the wheeels or a pro computer?
Moin from Bremen/ Germany,
in the Navigation the Triangle ist very small, I can not see it! Why only the triangle is so small?
What do you think of the Garmin Edge 1030 Plus? Let us know your thoughts in the comments.
Buy hammerhead karoo
Hello BikeRadar
Could you guys pleas test some cheaper full sus bikes like a cube stereo 120 pro and canyon neuron 6
And more bikes that around 1500 to 2000€
@@supersucka and you will miss many things- no recovery advisor, no IQ fields, no TrainerRoad workouts etc
Just got mine, so only one ride using it. Easy set up. Had to run the screen on the brightest setting. The 1030 is much more responsive than my old 130. I used the 10 data screen and could see all data no problem. Love that I can go from screen to screen while riding my just swiping the screen. I am a metrics nerd so I love the 1030.
It's 2021, in what world is USB-C not ubiquitous?! Micro is a death sentence, just a (short) matter of time until it becomes an unchargeable brick.
Very informative review. What tyres are you running on your bike in this review?
How is the screen contrast versus the 1030? The contrast on my 1030 was poor so now that it is broken interested if the contrast/sharpness is any better on the 1030+. If the contrast is the same I may switch to the Karoo-2 just for the better screen contrast.
When will Garmin edge 930 come out ?
Usb c is the way forward. iPad, Samsung and gopro understand.
The screensize is a must have if you run a powermeter. I use training sites just for the pm.
Nice review and Nice computer. But I think my ELEMNT bolt does the job I need it to do.
What happened to Jack's fixed gear adventure? Are we ever going to get to see it?
Maybe one day - I keep threatening to ask the video team to put something together but there's simply too much new swag to talk about! Keep asking and eventually, I'll crack. Thanks for commenting, Jack
I have had the Garmin 820 Edge for a few years now and was pretty happy with it but the battery life seems to be dwindling. I’ve also had an issue with it automatically syncing to my iPhone with Garmin Connect after I did a software update a while back. I have to turn the computer off and back on when I get for the ride to upload through my WiFi. My question is, should I upgrade to the 1030 plus or 830 plus? Is it worth the investment or should I wait until my 820 edge battery is just completely worn out and then upgrade?
Jack what happened to the 1030 as shown at 3:08? ... I'm going to keep yelling from the mountain tops and this illustrates it perfectly, Garmin needs to fix their screen durability issues, the glass that is used on all of the 30 series edge units doesn't survive even the smallest crash. I love my 830, navigation is normally great (only wish there was an option to reverse a route), metrics galore, and battery life is epic; but on my 3rd unit!
What is the maximum data windows that can be displayed at the same time when one is viewing the map screen? I know that on the Garmin 830 it's two. Others have indicated to me that it doesn't matter because it's easy to scroll between the pure data pages and the map but, still, I'd like to know if the 1030 has more data that can be viewed with the map screen than does the 830.
Not having USB PD for fast charging in 2020 is a major flaw. Also having had the misfortune of owning a 1030 before - with software that is still buggy in version 10 of the firmware - I am highly hesitant to consider giving Garmin more money.
Are the advantages proportional to the money you pay when you use a
garmin 130 and a phone (that everyone carries anyway)?
Is the incline % accurate?
Hey ! Thanks for the video, i have two questions regarding the GPS precision.
I own a Edge 1000 and an old Forerunner.
On zig-zag road, downhill in mountain, the gps pointer is 1 or 2 seconds delayed in comparison to my current position.
How is the refreshment rate on these new units ?
But can you play Pac-Man on it to kill time waiting for the group ride?
**“randomly” mashes competitor’s abbreviation onto device**
ᵖᵗᵒᵒᵉᵞ would love to see what came after
Batterylife of the 820 is declining, so I bought this one for 450 euro after the introduction of the 1040. Bigger screen for navigation and way better response does it for me.
Love it, and enjoying it. Needs some care, but worth it for sure!
I’d never go back to Garmin, shocking battery life actual vs claimed, constant crashing and clunky UX uploading maps and non-existent customer support. I met with someone who used to work for Garmin on a ride the other day who echoed all these points. Went Wahoo after three duff Garmins and never looked back. Ride with gps have been syncing with Wahoo for years. This looks like a better product but the price is absurd
I owned the Edge 1000 so I can't really comment on this new one but...the 1000 hailed and loved in every review was an absolute heap of atrocious garbage. The maps were a joke, the touchscreen was as responsive as an old deaf dog and the syncing worked randomly so I'll be definitely considering the wahoo.
Interesting. I'm sitting here with syncing issues with my Wahoo companion app (oddly enough, the device, Elemnt Roam, has the routes while the app doesn't), and despite having a Wahoo speed sensor paired with the head unit I'm still getting really stupid numbers for maximum speed on occasion. (Just today it said I did over 126 mph... I wish.) So, I am considering switching to a Garmin 1030 Plus.
Nice review and comparison. Thanks!
The clothes are boring, but the prose is engaging. Cheers for the good and thorough review.
Great honest review! Thanks!
Does it beat a 735xt and phone? I cycle with the phone in case of emergency anyway.. and my phone is waterproof...
Yes, it's more user friendly for cycling, simpler to use and has a humongous battery life
1030 is about equally large as the Edge Explore; for a third of the price.
I have 830, absolutely fine and fast no reason to change on anything.
Do you have any trouble with the screen size for navigation and layouts on the 830?
@@KurtMueller no one. 5 nums on screen balans %, w,cad, hr , grade. Map fine too. But no digital compass there and you need to ride for correct arrow. direction
When bikeradar diary's will be back?
It would also be really nice if you could pair the Edge 1030 plus to a Bluetooth speaker (like the JBL Charge) so that it would call out turn by turn directions so you don't have to look at a tiny screen at 20mph in traffic. I really miss the auditory turn by turn directions from my old car Garmin.. (that old model had a bicycle mode and would not try to put the cyclist on the freeway) LOL
Touchscreen won't work in heavy rain...goin nuts and gos off into different screens...even changed settings 1 day on me from heavy rain drops.
Wont work wit gloves.
And even sweet from turbo will set off Touchscreen.
And screen will look smeared after 1 touch on a dry day...
Im goin back to 530 wit buttons
Who rides in heavy rain come on
Thumbs have been applied in the up position. I really love the pink socks Jack 🥰🤩
Why did u write GCN?
I love the computer but I'll stick with my smaller 830 simply for size.
How do you feel about navigation and screen layouts on the smaller screen of the 830?
@@KurtMueller I don't use nav as a primary screen so no comment there, but I get plenty of room for essential info without cluttering the screen up using two screens I flip between.
It's a freaking joke that it's almost 2021 and you still can't configure data screens on your phone or laptop (even though you suggest here that you can I don't know how you'd do that). They are taking the piss.
My Wish List.. i would like Garmin to make an EDGE the size of the 1030 plus, but only have the navigation feature of the simpler Edge Explore 2... I don't need training stuff, i'm very low vision, and need turn by turn directions that i can see and that is really simple to put in an address and say "GO"... I can't see the explore because it's too small.. I can see the 1030 plus, but who (other than a pro cyclist) needs all that clutter that make is too complicated to operate..
The best would be if you could put the Garmin cycling maps on the Garmin motorcycle size screen... But they are not interchangeable maps.. LOL Someone with influence needs to talk to the design team at Garmin and ask for the "handicap accessible" version of the 1030..LOL Thanks.
Please tell Garmin to give us the option for auto-pause during structured workouts.
The entire point of structured workouts is to limit your rest and ride the full interval. If you're doing your 'structured' workout in an area where lights and other obstructions wreck the 'structure' it's not really having the same effect and you can still manually pause anyway.
@@psycheout4733 I'm not a professional athlete. I live in a fairly densely populated area. I'm not riding a trainer year round. Auto pause doesn't need to be set to default, but to not give the option for auto-pause is an oversight. At this point, I'll just buy a Wahoo next as their head units have that feature.
@@savonaaaron Again, you don't understand the meaning of structured training then. I've lived in Los Angeles, Boston and San Francisco... all 'densely populated areas' and it really only takes a 30 min warmup (or less drive) to find a place where you can do your intervals. Especially now, nearly all commercial areas are empty. Copping out to "not a professional athlete" assumes most people are? ... Just press stop since you can't be bothered to find an area where you're not interrupted by traffic. Notice you have no likes? Because it defeats the purpose of structured training.
Micro USB, what is this, 2016?
One reason Garmin don’t use a QWERTY keyboard could be that it’s not universal - even some European languages use different layouts.
Still using Mio Cyclo 105, no need to upgrade
Probably not made for bicycle touring?
I see your Garmin sits at an angle too . Bent handlebars will do that. Very annoyng
Can it display the HR data from my Apple Watch as I ride? Can anything? Apps on my iPHONE can’t seem to. I mean, what am I supposed to do, look at my wrist like a phillistine?
It depends on whether the Apple Watch can broadcast over ANT+ or Bluetooth LTE. A cursory Google search suggests no: discussions.apple.com/thread/7986518
I replaced a 9 year old 1000 with this and love it. It did pick up my screens from the 1000 but jumbled them a bit.
The higher capacity 32 GB (to 16 GB of the original 1030) doesn't compensate for the missing microSD card slot on the 1030 plus. That's a very bad decision by Garmin to the "improved" 1030 plus. On the original 1030 you could even add microSD cards with 32 GB (without any firmware on it for maps only - with formating FAT32 even larger microSD cards). When the processor is faster the microSD slot would have been even better. I really don't understand Garmin's decision because other devices (handheld outdoor GPS) still use this microSD card slot! 🤔
ill stick with the roam, buttons rule!
w taxes etc this is close to $1000 in Canada... no thanks
12 months on and with a new model out, £399 from Wiggle
A head to head comparison with the Karoo 2 would be great!
Great socks, bro
I have the Garmin Edge 1000 button broke
Had the 1030 in spring for 1 week. Didn't convince me. I use my phone with Adidas Runtastic for local riding and Komoot for adventure. Much easier. Have send it back.
Garmin Edge Explore . Best value for money
It came out in 2018 though, so wait at this point for a hardware upgrade. I don't disagree though. Good value for the money.
I can never understand why they don't include the buttons that the 530 has *in addition to* the touch screen. Like, it's their flagship device, far and away the most expensive one most people would be willing to buy, and where I live, there are significant chunks of the year when you can't use it normally/conveniently. I guess adding buttons is like admitting that the touch screen on its own doesn't cover every need and thus is not as premium a feature as it appears to be on the surface. But the fact that smartphones are purely touch-operated and that one can't use them with big gloves or in the rain/snow is one of the major arguments for switching to a dedicated computer (I also just hate trying to use a touch screen on my handlebars while I'm moving, particularly if it's bumpy, but that's a personal thing). All in all then, it doesn't make sense to me to manufacture a computer that is essentially operated exactly like a smartphone (and more clunkily, at that). Now to be fair, buttons by themselves come with their own drawbacks too. I would love to see Garmin go the Karoo or Sigma route and make a device that is both touch- and button-operated. It seems like it would be so easy for them to implement and then most/all conceivable conditions of use would be covered. I could probably ignore all the other weird UI, software and hardware choices Garmin makes, and would buy the 830 or 1030 this very second if only they also had buttons.
Is there a political reason why you never tell prices in € ?
Bikeradar is based in the UK? They'd be pretty chuffed if they got to decide what currency the Queen can use
Yeah, and the Djiboutian franc, and the Papua New Guinean kina, and the South African rand, and the..............
@@LegSpinna Just give it 10 years, than it will be obsolete to tell the prices in pounds. Nobody (including the Scots and Welsh) but the English will use that anymore.
@@teridzard1776 you got a cunning plan, or just rambling?
Software is so buggy for this device at the moment.
Is it? How? I’ve had zero issues with it - FAR less than previous versions thankfully.
@@Big2Planker both me and my brother have one and we’ve had sensors not connecting/disconnecting, crashing, uploads failing, corrupt ride data and navigation failing.
Edge 1000 had no issues in over 2 years but we do like the 1030 plus just needs another update.
Surly we can’t both have duff units LOL.
So what about the 1000 ?🤔
jack = watch video
I'm disappointed it's not 1000 bucks
If it only my brand new 530 altimeter would work again... Garmin is successful just because the rest sucks also.
Imagine crashing while fiddling with a computer on a bike.😂😂
Qwerty keyboard??? Screen size pro haps!!!!
I rather buy iPhone 12 Mini...
just use a phone?!
After my second Garmin Edge 520 died unexpectedly I decided to try something different - the Wahoo ELEMNT Bolt instead of the Garmin 530. Boy! I'm glad I did. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxXZCtB-wGdHVTBSz8RswePK5vllHNi06N The display on the Wahoo Bolt is much easier to read. I like the configuration of the display more (up to 7 items visible on page 1 without scrolling and the first item chosen is larger characters than the next 3 rows that have pairs of items (still very readable). I also like the configurable item selections. The Bolt synced with my Garmin ANT+ Speed sensors on both bikes easily so no additional investment was required there. While the rated battery life is a couple hours less than the Garmin 520/530, I easily get a weeks worth of 1+ hour rides before recharging (and it's never really low on charge). At the end of a ride syncing to the Wahoo app, Strava, and Apple Health app is painless.
Don't like touch screen. All ways goes wrong when trying to do something on the go.
A QWERTY keyboard on that would be tiny and almost impossible for ham fingered riders. Triggered by QWERTY....sad, I know! haha
Why would you want this instead of just using your phone?
Battery life seems much better with a bike computer with an eco mode, compared to a phone, isn’t it?
i really dont get, why cant smart phone eat up. this product, it has bigger battrey, more iq, bigger screen, just need ant+ certified and better gps chip.
I must say, I clicked on this video in order to learn your opinion of the Garmin edge, not to listen to the back ground noise that sounds as if some woman is practicing making obnoxious, ill noises.
The only thing sick about me is my riding style. Thanks for commenting. Love and kisses, Jack xoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
I question how it is that you ride a bicycle from the couch, you spend a lot of time on the couch. When you are on the couch, it should be for a noble purpose, like impregnating a lady. You do know about ladies, eh?
Omg it’s huge. I would break that thing so quickly if I had it on my mountain bike 😆
I have a 1000 and it’s been through a lot of crashes and it came out fine. But I did get that rubber bumper that’s pretty thin.
Nice! And is the 1000 the same size as the 1030 plus do you know?
@@ericmagee9054 yes very similar in size, more screen on the new model. Would totally suggest the rubber boot thing. But I’d have to say if you are just using this on local trails you might go with a smaller unit. I can totally attest to crashing with might, flying off the top of my car, tumbling down the steps. Basically I have a lot of reasons I never borrow other people’s stuff.
I spend 50 / 50 mountain biking and road riding. But I’m also content with my 5 year old Edge 520 :)
@@ericmagee9054 I get that, I feel that way about my 1000. But that battery life in the new one has me thinking.
Download wahoo app on your phone you are done. Why do you need a computer if you have a phone. Your phone is already an octacore, has Google maps, all radios, GPS chip. And phone lasts well over 7 hours on a ride with some phone now having 6000mah batteries having batteries even longer.
we all know garmin does not last as advertised. Bike computers were relevant a decade ago but now they are pushed by marketing.
Battery life of 7 hours isn't happening.
@@RobBlazoff Then get a power bank... there are phones with huge batterys and there are phone cases with battery extensions.
How come 7 hours not happening my one plus 5 with 3300mah lasts that long with full brightness and Bluetooth on on my bike ride.
Power meters... what are some good apps for them?
Check wahoo fitness app