Is Halo's Massive Shakeup Enough to Regain Its Former Glory? | Firelink Podcast
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ต.ค. 2024
- This week on Firelink, Marty, Nick, and KC chat about the massive shakeup surrounding Halo, and what that means for the future of the tentpole franchise.
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2:00 - This is where the ipod cast starts
5:10 - Nick wake up, new Mountain Dew logo is here
10:50 - Nintendo Alarmo - who needs Super Switch when we have an alarm clock?
20:00 - MAIN TOPIC - Breaking down the big Halo news
59:50 - What we’ve been playing/watching - Metaphor Re:Fantazio, Silent Hill 2 Remake, Uzumaki. Dan Da Dan, Ninja Kamui, Rings of Power, Star Wars Outlaws, Witchfire, Visions of Mana, Play Nice (Jason Schreier’s new book)
Until I get a good Halo game, Halo Studios is just 343 in a trench coat.
Right? It also has the same ring as "Sonic Team" 🤣
They're too focused on making money instead of video games.
@@citypavement Lol they haven't been all too successful at either of those.
Hehheh 3 grunts in a trenchcoat
‘Massive shakeup" - a rename with the same terrible people involved…
IMO what made Bungie's Halo great is that you didn't need a degree in Halo lore to be able to roughly understand what the story was going for. It was also a shooter with higher time to kill, power weapons in key positions, and slower movement speed. What 343i did was throw much of that in the trash for Halo 4, and almost all of that for Halo 5. So when Nick says he wishes they'd take more inspiration from the books, I can't agree with that.
Infinite was a step in the right direction for sure, but this name change really doesn't mean anything.
I just realized that the scene of Chief drawing the energy sword is the same vibe as Kyle REN igniting his lightsaber in Force Awakens.
343 has released nothing but stains on Bungie's legacy. The rebrand is just that - a rebrand. I have no faith in modern halo until I see a good game come out. The company can talk a big talk or wear a fancy new logo, but I only care if they can walk the walk - not talk the talk.
that is fair but I do think it is important to acknowledge the recent culling of massive management bloat, still as you said time will tell
Meh, 4 is good and MCC was eventually good, but yeah 5 was badly mismarketed and Infinite was… okay. So like, 2 for 4, which is still not a winning record :/
Do I think a once flagship franchise famous for offline split-screen co-op made by an entirely different development team 20 years ago has a chance at recapturing its glory days?
No. Saved you 2 hours
Ninja Kamui took a nosedive at the end for me. It was great when just about ninjas and revenge, then BAM merch suits
Halo's "glory" is in the past; it's 100% a "Boomer Shooter" on console and PC.
If you weren't gaming on the 360, when games like Halo and Gears were King, you simply don't have ANY nostalgia for Halo as a brand or IP--full stop. About the ONLY people who haven't accepted that Halo isn't a big deal anymore are Microsoft-Xbox and older gamers in games media / journalism, who witnessed how popular Halo WAS first-hand.
The younger gamers I know (
32:00 people hate locke because he's boring. He's just master chief 2.0 with less appeal. Master chief is an already a brick wall of character in terms of personality and locke is somehow worse than that, a white concrete slab, generic and boring. I said it years ago and I will say it again, halo 5 would be a much better game if instead of locke, we play as Buck. Buck is the polar opposite of MC, he's more charming, more expressive than MC. He would be a great contrast to MC's portion of the campaign, giving the tone of the campaign more variety than what we got.
Hell even master chief cracks jokes every now and then.
I feel like if you are going to remake it and ignore everything before than why call it Halo? There is ALOT of lore the games never touched upon.
preloaded Metaphor! but first gotta finish FFXVI
Marty getting threat-y over a Nintendo online playtest... I'm pretty sure that's one of the things in the Book of Revelations.
Halo was the go to a friends house and hook up a control to play split screen game. It filled a hole for a lot of teens in the 2000s that wanted a party game that wasn't Mario Party.
That is what Halo multiplayer needs to redirect to. Fun and wacky game modes, its why forge has been the life blood of the Multiplayer scene. Infection and Grifball are proof of it
As for the single player, they need to go back to more somber elements. Infinite struggles to redirect the story in a way that prevents it being what it needed to be. I think infinite's gameplay is amazing for what it is, and I think the open world aspect isn't bad. I would have liked a few more curated segments. and it definitely needed to be more diverse in location.
Even Halo 1 with its limitations and reuse of levels still took you to some different vistas. A grassy canyon, a dessert, a island, a swamp, a tundra. How in the year 2021 were they only able to give us the Pacific Northwest in space?
As for tone. You can't go wrong with emulating Halo 3 and Halo 3 ODST. That mix of utter defeat and hope for the future. I think as they said, they need to move away from Master Chief and they need to pull the bandaid off and start over. I just don't think the Cortana and Created are sustainable in their current iteration. I don't mind that angle, but it needs to be done better, and it needs to be more inline with the Halo Aesthetic. Trying to force a square into a circle for the last decade has not worked out, and stubbornly trying to force it to work is only going to continue the downfall of the franchise
I was never into the initial Halo crowd because I was gaming on PC in that era. That being said, I enjoyed all Halos released on PC (still annoyed Halo 5 Guardians didn't get released there) and I wish it goes on (assuming either PC release or Playstation release).
On topic: the longer it takes for Halo Studios to put out a banger Halo game, the less chances Halo will ever get back to being the GUY for Microsoft. Newer generations of gamers are already trapped by your Fortnites or your CoDs or your whatever that they won't dive into another game. And the generation of gamers that was the main base 20 years ago no longer have the time to dedicate to a new Halo game as they did 20 years ago even IF the newest Halo game is a banger.
So who is a new Halo game tailored for? Make an amazing campaign with a decent MP and it should sell decently. Make it first and foremost as a live service - I think it will fail because the base is not there. I think they should go into the the former direction: banger SP with decent MP, but an MP that *can* evolve with new modes/maps/skins/etc. Infinite should've been that, but the campaign was cut short and the MP was not supported as it should've.
Marty with that classic life motto 32:58
The fact that people automatically doompost and think it needs to be better than 3 or it won't count shows that no, definitely not fans will make sure it doesn't like they tried the last 2 games
No. Very easily answered question.
Nick has a hate shelf. Shelf in the Room, by Days of the New, is the only song I can think of based around a shelf. I always thought of it as a hopeful song. May you find piece in your hate shelf Nick.
I just want any good news at this point, they just need to deliver something
A name change and an engine change means nothing. It THE SAME THING but a different color.
How trash is idTech if no-one uses it?
Honestly, I'd say no it is not. It doesn't matter if their workflow is slightly more efficient or not. The game's writing and directing has been pretty garbage thus far.
Will it ever get back to being the most popular online game and a large reason to buy an Xbox? Probably not.
Halo isn't that big the best selling halo game sold about as well as splatoon
I think not.
No LOL
Halo can't regain its glory because it wasnt actually exceptionally good in the first place. It's like saying "back when COD was good" because of MW2. it was never more than a "good enough" game with a large userbase and very active multiplayer.
I can agree with the first part but you sound WAY too young. I remember when each Halo came out it was BIG you had people that either never really played games or never played FPS games would pick Halo up. Halo 3 was making it in the news back when video games were kinda of a niche hobby. EVERY FPS after Halo tried to dethrone it and were named the "HALO KlLLER". It had glory. It's more that at this point the people who originally made it are long gone and Microsoft doesn't want to let it go (because of it's former glory and history).
Just gonna ignore what Halo did for console FPS' and online multiplayer?
You couldn’t be more wrong bud. Halo was on top of the WORLD from 2001-2007. Countless FPS titles were developed with the sole intent of being a “Halo Killer.” Competition finally arrived alongside the release of Halo 3, but that’s where everything peaked. ODST was the smallest of the original five, and Reach didn’t perform as well as its older mainline brother.
@@carlosrenteria4712 As a game dev and fan of shooters, I wish we could, the consolization of the FPS genre has been nothing but a curse. All the ''innovations'' that Halo introduced are terrible, slow movement, 2 weapons, regenerating health, aim assist.
@@Gentlemenpickleesq. Microsoft spent over double on advertising for both 2 and 3 than it took to make the games, 5 was the last time they did that and it's the Xbox one's most sold exclusive
In short, no.
In long,
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