Installing a SSD (mSATA) into a WWAN Slot
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- Quick video on experimenting with the WWAN slot (Dell e7240, but likely the same for similar models).
Here is a link to an inexpensive mSATA drive I have used with great success: amzn.to/2wLKAcI
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Found this video as well because I also went for a try (msata ssd fits mechanically into the WWAN slot) and can now confirm that a DELL Latitude E65xx will NOT recognize mSATA drives on their minipcie slots because these machines don't support this protocol through their hardware bus controller. What can be done is: use an m-sata to s-ata drive adapter for slotting the m-sata drive into it and then use that either in the internal drive bay or even with a hdd/ssd 2'5 inch drive caddy for the removable drive slot. this will then work. Also an external USB adapter for m-sata would work (slower) So, before attempting to use a free WWAN slot first make sure the computer supports m-sata protocol!
Fab writup and test! Got here via interest in Latititue WWAn slot and have been interested in getting this type of tests from other systems and its ports and had some fun on my other system where got a super fast drive only to find the port is a 3rd of the speed :) Nice to have this tested so can see if getting expected results!!
It's a great way to dual boot as well (skipping the bootloader issues in some updates). F12 & select disk.
Really good callout- especially since these machines are great for hackintosh use!
The only issue with installing anything other than a WWAN card in the WWAN card slot is knowing what to do with the antenna cables. A lot of the time there's nowhere for them to go, so depending on the internal design of the laptop may prevent the bottom cover being put back on.
Tried on my thinkpad t495, didn't really fit by millimeter, forced it a little and it doesn't turn on anymore, I got to disconnect the battery from the motherboard and reconnect it for the computer to work again.
i have a wwan port in my acer aspire one d250 i put an 256 gb ssd my partition tool does not detect it
Just ordered a 2nd drive for mine with the intention of running the C drive for programs and the other for storage, files, music, photos, films etc. If you put a larger drive into the WWAN then you can set up an identical operating system and ghost the program drive to the larger storage so if there is any problem on drive C you can do a quick reinstall. (20 mins) or a complete SSD swap out and you lose no data. Files and docs on the storage drive D can be backed up externally as and when. Been using this with my old system and looking forward to doing it all again (slowly) with 64 bit and more ram.
Yup, exactly, great tip!
FYI in dell latitude e7250 can't use port WWAN to upgrade SSD.
Is there any other way to use M2 on WWAN slot
awesome content
Thank you!!
Wow! Thank you!
You got it!
I tried this with a Dell Latitude E6420 in the WWAN port and it didn't work. Bios and OS didn't find it. How can I solve this problem? Have you any solution? .
Same problem man
Hi, how r u? I have a question.
I have a Dell e5480 with the WWAN port but I don't know if I can connect a SSD. Do u know it? In case I can, which format NVMe, mSATA or just SATA?
That's all, nice video
Hi buddy, awesome video, thanks for sharing it! I have an old Dell Vostro 3500 and it has the same WWAN port as well do you think is it possible to plug an SSD mSATA just the way you did? Will it work ordoes it also depends on some archtecture of the motherboard? Thanks again! May God bless you and your family.
I haven't tried that specific model, but most Dell users are reporting success- I'd say there is a good chance it will work. Buy it on Amazon (link in description) so you are backed by a good return policy.
My Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon (Gen 3) has an empty WWAN slot, would I be able to put a M.2 storage drive in the slot?
did you try ?
@@gg4ksa it won’t work for my model
WWAN is not are PCIe?
I mean WWAN is PCIe and is possible to connect M.2 NVMe SSD.
No, an NVMe drive will not work- WWAN slots will use mSATA drives instead, like this- amzn.to/3abX4s3
Wireless Wide Area Network (WWAN) and/or Wireless Local Area Network(WLAN) is a goal - or other words "what for this card will be used". But the slot (connector) can be different. In this video it is mSATA, in your case (as well as in my, DELL Latitude) for WWAN slot M.2 is used, where you can plug in M.2 SATA or M.2 NVMe, but definitely not mSATA.
m.2 is impossible, memory compatible msata or m.1
Wow ... as I expected, it turns out to have the same speed.
Thank you very much for answering my request.
Good luck.
may god protect you from the plague that has engulfed this world.
Most welcome 😊
nice video, can I do the same with Dell latitude E4310?, it has an empty WWAN slot.
i just recently bought a dell latitude 5400 and i was wondering if the wwan port supports it
Installing a SSD (mSATA) into a WWAN Slot ？？？
YES ! I did it !
My DELL e7440 i5 4310 & DELL e7440 i7 4610, both WWAn slots MARKED with 【mSATA/WWAn】. With this remarks, I am able to install Win 11 Pro on the mSATA SSD at these 2 system at the slot provided. Now, I have 2 SSD & 2 O/S on each laptop ! 。。。。。。。。。。。。。👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Glad it worked for you!
awesome video how colud u do this tell me iwant to connect ssd in my hp 8560w in wwan card tell me thanks in advance
Dilaptop dell e4300 bisa peke msata atau tidak ya kak. Saya pasang msata di wwan kok tidak terdeteksi
Is it possible to install m.2 SSD on e530 Lenovo Thinkpad on the wan slot
Hey, could you help me? What I have to use, nvme or sata go laptop hp elitebook 830 g5? I will really greatefull
I love this video from you. I have a Dell latitude e5470 (My laptop has an NVMe and two Memory slots) I need to install and mSATA in the port WWAN that came with. My question is. Can I install an mSATA on this port and upgrade it to have more space? Please help me out. I will be patiently waiting for your answer.
Hi , it´s impossible on Dell Latitude XT3 - does not detect the disk
Ensure that it is seated properly
@@GarageMaxedOut Yes, it is seated properly and not detect the disk on Dell Latitude XT3
Don't do this on a Thinkpad L480. Just sayin'
It'll break the soft power off on that model and is not detected anyway.
Will mSATA work on Dell Latitude E6420
Yea but will it work in a elitebook 8440p?
Hey man , firstly loved the video. Now I have a 5 year old hp envy 15 touchsmart laptop. I recently found it has a slot for a MSATA in it. I was wondering would you have any tips for using the MSATA for primary booting and using my stock HDD as a storage device for pictures and videos ect.
ie. Is there a certain method like installing windows on the MSATA then formatting my HDD for storage .
Any tips would help.
All the best man,
James.
have you tried to clean install windows on mSATA with HDD temporarily removed?
@@JohnDoe-Unknown heya, yeah I figured it out. There was a work around but I got it , cheers
hi @garage maxed out can you please tell me will this work with an hp elite book 8470p please
Does this affect the performance of the device a lot? I have the exact same device because I changed the storage memory to ssd but I did not feel much difference and the device is still slow
Thanks from Ukraine!
Can we do this succesfully with DELL E5450?
Hp elitebook possible?
Yes
dell 6410 to have wwlan port can it support it
Would this work on a t480
We have hilariously similar channels. 2 months before you did this video I did a quick one on putting an mSATA (in the conventional way) into my E7440 and I'm about 1/3::2/3 split between cars/mechanics and PC type of stuff. I would have never guessed that there would be two of us out there doing even remotely similar things. ;)
But... This is a cool video. It has me wondering if I could do a RAID on my E7440 with 2 mSATAs. Maybe I'll look into that!
Lol! Very cool. Yeah I just post whatever I am working on at the moment
@@GarageMaxedOut Yep, same here. If it's not broken yet, it soon will be, so no shortage of content opportunities.
Sir i have latitude 3380can i installed m2 sata in wwan slota
Please tell me
I lost my ssd
How is this possible? There is no way to swap an mSATA SSD to replace a PCIe Robson Turbo. It would seem that this WLAN/mSATA swap is even more impossible. No?
You are referencing two different technologies. This works because these laptops had the wwan port run through a sata lane.
Hi! Does it work on Lattitude 3380 also?
It so stranger because WWAN slots use pcie protocol instead sata protocol although either have same physical size. Maybe someone could explain this?
Some WWAN slots only support pie protocol, some (like the e6x40 and e7xx0 series) support pcie/msata/usb
Will it work on a Dell Inspiron 15 3543 ?
I have a Dell N4110, please advise the WiMAX slot possible to install mSats SSD and also windows
Nope, unfortunately you cannot
Hey Garage! thank you by the video! A very nice video!..
Please, tell me..I have an HP workstation elitebook 8560W thats have a port like yours...WWAN port. ´
Don´t you know if I can use an MSATA 1TB on this port?? Have you ever made some test on a similar Laptop like this??
It supports acceleration but not booting. You can add a small drive like this to setup Intel Acceleration in combination with a main 2.5” mechanical hdd. amzn.to/4ayRO1q
@@GarageMaxedOut Thank you answer me!
Let me see if I understood:
You suggesting me that I have to use this part just to accelerate the HDD that I already have into the machine? I mean.. on this port WWAN I can't use no adapter combination with a Msata SSD. Only this part you suggest like acceleration, Isn'it?
It appears to me, that my thought wasnt that stupid. Can it be used as "c:" drive with the system on it?
I was able to, however documentation is very limited- it will depend on your specific laptop and an amount of trial and error.
vim por curiosidade! estou com um Latitude 5490 e não consegui achar nem o manual da placa pra ver se é compativel. alguem aqui testou ?
i tried this with a dell e6520 in the WWAN port and it didn't work with a kingston 240gb msata drive, it fit perfectly but the bios and operating system didn't recognize it at all
Thanks for the comment- seems success rates are much lower with the X5XX series laptops
Someone on the Dell forums thinks this involves a specific pin (51) being grounded because of some spec change on the 65xx series
Is it possible to install a second SSD in WWAN slot of ThinkPad T460S?
Hi, did you do it? did it work? i have the same question hehehe..
what's the size of the m.2 nvme that you installed via the wwan slot, was it 2240 or 2230?
It's mSATA, not M.2.
so I can add another ssd to my wwan port, is that correct?
Yes, correct
Thanks for sharing this info. I'm going to see if this is possible on my Dell 7470.
Good luck!
Since I have the same machine .. I wonder if it worked out or not .. In case it worked out I will appreciate telling me what model of SSD you used .. Is it M2/M3 or PCIe!
Can i do this with latitude e7250?
Installing a SSD (mSATA) into a WWAN Slot?
Did you find reply about this question ? got a e7250 aswell and i'm curious
@@06damsterdam would you both guys get answer so kindly giude me which M.2 will work on this port
good for my L14 - thx
No problem 👍
can in e6330 msata be installed?
Can you install a msata ssd in the port of the wifi card ??? Does the bios recognize it to be able to install the operating system?
Yes, in this model you can
will this work on dell 3340
Can you help me out on this... I have Sony VGN TT series 11.1inch with DVDslot. I want to upgrade to SSD but appears that it's hard drive is ATA/IDE slot. Question is; is there any WWAN slot in this laptop so I can use mSSD, or should I use SSD with SSDtoIDE adapter, or use mSSD with mSSDtoIDE adapter? Which one is better between SSD and mSSD? I want to keep my DVDslot. Thx mate!
Easy, this is what you need- amzn.to/3jvJgPa
@@GarageMaxedOut thx pal!
i don't understand english well, with your system it is possible to boot sdd, i don't understand card features well Dell e6320?
Yes you can!
And can I remove my WWAN mini card and just use it to add one more ssd?
I have the same question
Do u have a answers
@@0abzz686 none. I think it's possible.
@@motivationwithgod3966 do you think it will work with a mini PCIe slot
@@0abzz686 I think so.
Doesn’t work on Toshiba. But then again, not much does.
Thanks for adding so other viewers know. The next Toshiba that comes across my table, I'll do a video and see what 'might' work on it.
M.2 sata are High speed as i know , but your tiny wifi port sata is having the same speed as a normal 2.5 SSD .. why?
Mechanically, it’s the same bandwidth as an older sata drive
M.2 SATA, mSATA, and 2.5" SATA are all the same speed provided they use the same generation of SATA interface. M.2 SATA is no faster than mSATA or 2.5" SATA. The mSATA in this video is the same speed as a 2.5" SATA as they are the exact same drive in a different physical form factor.
Hi. I installed a Msata to TF card reader in WWAN slot. Fits good, pops up and down good like ram does. I can't get Bios or Windows 10 to find it. I even done I new install of Windows 10. Any advice? Thanks.
Btw I had a TF card formatted with files on it in reader all the time.
What's it formatted as?
@@GarageMaxedOut Fat32
Thx, very usefull! What do you think, can I install it in WWAN slot from Dell Vostro 3560?
Yes, you can
How can I make an M-SATA hard disk the main system disk?
You will need to go into the BIOS settings to select. If you cannot find this setting, you can test that the drive is bootable by removing the primary hard drive and booting Windows installer- if it sees the drive, you don't need to do anything special, installing Windows on the drive will allow you to boot from there.
halo bro,, when i replace wwan card with ssd msata, is wifi still work?
Yes it will
Hi, I have a dell latitude e7450 that has a wwan card inside of it, if I remove it and install an ssd will that affect the laptop in a bad way?
Nope
@@GarageMaxedOut can I boot of it?
Hi,do you know about HP stream 13 laptop? does this work? many mentioned the mini pcie slot in hp stream cant recognise msata,in that case, how to deal with it?
I haven't tried it on that model, but I do see that is has a 52 pin connector and half height mounting space. The Stream 13 also has a USB 3.0 port, so you could use one of these if you are looking for an easy way to add storage- amzn.to/2WMDjHc. If you are going to open your laptop up anyway, this is the one I would try- amzn.to/3h0ag9E. Let us know how it goes.
@@GarageMaxedOutAppreciate the given advice, I haved tried to install Kingspec half size mSata in the wifi (mini pcie port) in HP stream, but it wont work. I believe it should be the manufacturer cconfiguration to limit the functionality of that port soley for network adapter but not for any sata drive. Thank you
@@ai_ppt7986 Modding BIOSes is a pain in the neck but doable. Here is a link if you are determined- sudonull.com/post/163176-Disable-Wifi-whitelist-in-HP-laptops
I HAVE DELL LATITUDE E7240 MY SSD IS HYNIX BUT NO FIT IN WWAN..SIZE IS SMALL
Be sure to use the one in the description- they are keyed differently
Maybe someone already asked this, but can you re-install the OS on this drive?
Yes you can
It is work on E6420 ?
Yes
@@GarageMaxedOut E6420 wwan port support msata?
HELLO, it´s possible on Dell Latitude E5430?
Yes it is!
Watsupp bro, can asus laptop do that, cause i found wwan card on the board with same model with msata. But someone say not all laptop support to use that. Please answer me ?
What model?
@@GarageMaxedOut asus A455L,that my laptop model
Didn't work in an e7250
Should work on the X2XX series, what SSD did you use?
hey man nice video, i have hp elitebook revolve 810 g2 that has the wwan slot too do you think that will work with mSATA ssd?
Did you find answer to this question ⁉️
It should
Try the drive I posted specifically, it seems to have the widest compatibility
Support Dell Latitude E5250?
2230,2242?
Yes, get this drive- amzn.to/3hxdkbv
MSATA MINI PCI-E will work
mSata yes
Hey mate
Was wondering if this will work on HP 2760p wwan slot ?
Nope. HP Laptops have a whitelist for devices.
No go on this model.
use light shot screen cap. just press print scrn and save the captured file after highlighting the area you want saved.. :)
Great tip!
Now.. can you boot from that drive
Depends on the laptop, many can
I have an e7450 latitude. I think the wwan slot is pcie 1x b key
Can you install a M.2 Wifi card in a mSATA slot??
It depends on how it is keyed, but probably not. Check here for reference- arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/understanding-m-2-the-interface-that-will-speed-up-your-next-ssd/
Just tested this on a 2007 Mac Mini
How did it go?
@@GarageMaxedOut well, it didn't worked.
But what shocked me the most was that the computer actually booted, on windows and on mac os x lion.
I'd figured since it's apple and all, the firmware would lock me out if the wifi card wasn't detected, but no, it booted as it would only without wifi.
I told the case on reddit and asked if someone knew something that can be done to make this work, after all the airport card is a mini pci like the ssd.
I even checked if no new unknown devices were present in case it was just a driver issue, but no. It behaves as of it wasn't there.
I'm also considering the possibility that my ssd Is dead.
I did took it off a dead laptop, so I don't really know the ssd condition.
I might try again with a new ssd or if I find like a case or something to test the ssd if it's working.
can i put more than 256GB mSATA on my Dell Latitude 7240?
Yes, though higher capacities are hard to find. Here is a good source for larger drives, it must be mSATA, with just 2 'teeth' not 3. amzn.to/3bFwDw5
I have a 1TB in my 7440. No problems.
@@TheBrokenLife do you use it as a primary drive?
@@adnonbravo Yes.
Hi can i add on dell 3521
No, unfortunately not.
It's work on Dell E6220 .??
Yes
@@GarageMaxedOut No it doesn't work! I have tried a Toshiba 256GB without success.
Bonjour, je souhaiterais installer un SSD dans le port WWAN de mon Dell latitude 7290. Pourriez vous me donner les caractéristiques du SSD à acheter svp ?
Merci
Can you do this on e5450?
Yes you can! Use the drive in the description links
Can i install it in dell latitude E6410 ?
Yes, the E series supports "Latitude On", which means it will boot from the WWAN. If you are in the US I have one (the one in the video) I will sell cheap, or you can buy one here- amzn.to/3ah0J8N
I just bought a msata disc, the laptop doesn't recognize, any suggestion? I have the same laptop, latitude e6410.
does the wifi works well?
Yes
work on hp elitebook?
Yes, on some models
@@GarageMaxedOut i have a elitebook g7. Work?
is it possible to convert SSD slot into WWAN ?
For most models, yes the actual hardware is compatible.
@@GarageMaxedOutthanks,
Is there any tutorial
turn your radio off
Can i do this with latitude e7250?
I have the same question 🙋♂️
@@nnilad2471 same here, any chance one of you found the info ?
@@06damsterdam I checked it myself. it does not fit unfortunately. Just upgraded to a kingstone 480GB ssd and that's it.
@@nnilad2471 thx! already got a 500go will go for 1To
does an nvme ssd work in that slot?
No it doesnt
So u quit youtube
Busy life. Maybe one day again!
the E6430 has Wlan WWAN and a unlabel port will it work for me?
Should work on the X4XX series, try the SSD linked in the description
Hi, did It work? I have the same model
Does this affect the performance of the device a lot? I have the exact same device because I changed the storage memory to ssd but I did not feel much difference and the device is still slow
HELLO, it´s possible on Dell inspiron 1525?
No, but you can use one of these to add a 2.5" SSD- amzn.to/3foaN4C