I've owned my 2021 2500 HD gasser since Nov. 2020. I pull everything from a 33' camper to running Hot Shot loads up to 13,000 lbs. on a regular basis. The 6.6L handles all of it like a champ and has never overheated no matter the grade or temps. And icing on the cake is the fact it has been designed to do all of this on regular gas.
I have the 2021 Duramax, the 10-speed transmission is amazing! I'm Towing a grand design reflection 41ft 15000lbs. It tows like an absolute dream! There's nothing but Hills here in California! If you're not going up you're coming down, and this truck delivers all day!
I have a 2020 model with 35k on it and It has been absolutely awesome..... I tow all the time from light to heavy...... 35 inch tires fit stock and gets 16mpg average in the mountains 22.5 on trips and 8 mpg pulling 19k excavator with a conventional hitch (those numbers are just a recommendation lol) it pulls that easily! And these trucks actually have a 36 gallon tank not 34 like stated.... and with "only" 910lbs of tq it out pulls ford and dodge in the real world. Watch motor trend they did a tractor pull and the chevy ruled the roost! The bow tie is the only one that puts ALL the power to the ground, but you must choose trailer mode........ Andre should have read the manual..... most people don't then complain about stuff they don't know about lol, great review guys just read the manual about lots of things you don't know.....
Own one of these and towed a 41ft Montana 5th wheel from Colorado - Cali- Washington just under 4k miles averaged about 9.8 mpg. Love this truck and how the way it handles.
GM heavy duty trucks do not have panoramic glass roofs due to there is an antenna wire harness located there. I much prefer the traditional sunroof due to less problems. I have seen many panoramic glass roofs that have cracked from impact or stress. The stress cracks are located at the edges, which is weakest part of the glass.
@@twcstransam problem with that? I mean this truck comes with automatic tailgate. Sounds city boy like too. What about the automatic transmission. City too? Hmmm. Lol. Come on man! Joe told me to say that. LOL! Mean tweets 2024!
Inflation sucks! Bought mine last November, 2020 same exact Truck both year and model costs about 10-15k more now than it did then in the current market it is rough from where I am sitting too. Which I am honestly shocked that a brand new 2020 costs more now just blown away really. Feel blessed I was able to purchase it when I did.
I believe I’ll stick with my 21 year old 2500 (not HD) for awhile longer! Paid less than 30 k for a highly optioned truck. (For it’s day) Still does all I want.
Great video Andre as always. Looking forward to seeing the new center stack and all over new upcoming interior design. Love it or hate it, very price competitive.
I have the exact same truck minus the sunroof and it’s red and I love it . I wish it had the 20’s . But other than that I finally got my dream truck . And let me tell you it was really hard to find one used in red . After a year of looking I finally found mine in Austin , Texas with 32,000 miles .
Love the video!! Picked up my 2021 2500HD three weeks ago. I purchased the gas 6.6 with the 6L90. I pull a 36’ travel trailer which is a world of a difference towing with this beast compared to my ram 1500. I decided to upgrade due to the sway on the hyways. Big plus and good decision. I opted out for the durax because we just didn’t need it. The pay load on my gas truck is 3650 pound which is awesome. Thanks for the great videos!!😃😃😁
Super similar situation. We towed a 37 footer with a silverado 1500, a 2019. And just recently we picked up a 21 2500HD gas, love it. Its a midnight editon too
My story was similar. Had a 2013 RAM 1500, but their suspension couldn't cut it with our 31ft. Toy Hauler. My 2500HD is so much more solid / secure towing and of course there is so much more available power and convenience as well.
Excellent Review Andre! I own a Loaded 2021 3500HD LTZ Duramax. I purchased it back in Late Jan 21 right before everything went crazy with availability and price. We tow a 2021 Grand Design Reflection 303RLS Fifth Wheel with this truck. Towing in the mountains (we live in the Sierra) the mpg is about 10.5. When unloaded on flat highway I have seen 21 mpg over a 500 mile trip. You are correct about full torque not being applied from a start (2500HD) but this is not the case on the 3500 as it has a larger rear end and more robust drive line. Full torque and HP are available from a standing start. At 14000 miles to date I love this truck we have bonded LOL.
I just saw this truck at used Honda dealership. 2500HD with 30,000 miles and the asking price is 54.000. I'm going to wait to see if it drops in three weeks
The 2500hd gas custom trims are about 52k here in GA. In this market better to buy a new one. But I think I’m gonna wait till 2023 middle to see the market and then decide on purchasing
My 2019 3500 single wheel is rated for 11400 so basically the same as this 2500. Only the 2019 is about 350 pounds lighter and shorter and narrower so I can still park it. I really like all the improvements in the new trucks but the size is a deal killer.
Andre just bought a 2022 2500 Silverado duramax based on this video. The most informative thing in this review was your commentary regarding Chevy increasing the gvwr to 11350. The one I purchased has 3400 lbs of payload capacity. I thought I was going to need to purchase a 1ton for payload capacity. I pull a travel trailer and wanted a diesel for the exhaust break. I traded in my 2019 Tundra crew max which pulled my trailer excellently for the Silverado. GM please continue to provide vehicles to TFL as Andre and Mr. Truck do an excellent job with the Ike Guantlet tests. Additionally you adding the lift pump and new TCM to these trucks greatly increase reliability of them and improve your customers satisfaction.
I just came here to say, no I don't want to buy a new HD Chevy. But I can't wait for you guys to go over the new Tundra. Great video btw, you guys are the best.
Sounds like some things have changed from 2020-2021 models. For example I noticed the wheel wells in the bed of the truck protrude more versus the 2020 so less room in the bed. Also fuel tank lost 2 Gallons versus the 2020 model going from a 36 gallon tank to a 34 gallon tank. Also what I consider a significant reduction in weight capacity towing from the bumper versus the 2020 from 14,500 to 12,000 is unreal. The materials required to build must have cost to much so it looks like they trimmed it down a tad. Still a great truck but I would prefer the LT model because 75k is just to much money for me. Love my 2020 and look forward to years of enjoyment out of it. I have had zero issues with my Chevy 2020 2500 LT I have 15,900 miles on it. I am a repeat Chevy truck owner because they always get me home.
I had a 2003 2500HD and I miss it, I traded it in for a 2016 F150 and have nothing but disappointments with payload and a few other things....evaluating buying a new F250, Chevy 2500HD or GMC 2500 HD....Their packages are terrible to get one thing you want your jumping 8k in prices FML
No. 1 on the list should be to expect to wait a year to get one. The Chevy dealer in my town has 0 new vehicles. None, Nada. Can't get anything new in stock and I was told I would have to wait a very long time if I ordered one now.
Thanks Andre; great detailed review. I’m enjoying ownership of my 2020 2500HD gasser (6.6L) in a Double Cab LT model; totally good enough for me (don’t care for leather or sunroofs) and for hauling our 31ft. travel trailer (much more solid & secure than a 1/2 ton). Regarding the choice of GM to stick with the 6spd. 6L90 trans., as you I'm sure you saw your friend Kent (Mr. Truck) interview the GM Transmissions Eng. (Richard M.), he provided valid reasons for it. How it has been one of their most reliable trans. in the entire GM/Chev Grouping, also having very high JD Power rating. Glad to have heard that tranny is used in their racing performance cars and Camaro ZL1, yet beefed up for the HD Trucks with components from the HD diesel transmission. Fortunately, I don’t need a diesel (not a daily hauler), and do I love the efficiency & power results of its Direct Fuel Injection, as well as added road safety with AutoTrac (mild yet effective type of AWD) that I use virtually all winter long and on some gravel roads in summer. I could go on about what I love (side steps on the box side, the roomy box which I've added the GM exclusive Side Mounted Bed Storage Box set (2; one for each side) that leaves me with 4 ft. width and full box length, yet allows me to store lots of emergency and other goodies and out of the way (the internal version of a Ram Box). Anyway, I think this naturally aspirated engine is built to last for many years with only minor issues and regular expected maintenance. Take care Andre and crew and thanks again for showing this truck 🛻👍🏼. PS, I did buy an Oil Catch Can unit just to be extra sure I capture any residual blow by, mitigating future caking or coking of components like Intake Valves.
@NHL CFL Nice truck, but it's 4WD not AWD An AWD system is when the computer controls F/R and side-to-side driving of the wheels, whereas 4WD like you have is F/R only.. There is no side -to-side control.
@@scottandrews4822 Hi Scott. Regarding AWD, as you may know there are many versions of it (QuadraTrac, 4matic, Quattro, SH-AWD, xDrive, Symmetrical AWD, etc., etc.). AutoTrac is certainly front and rear connection or disconnection and with a limited slip differential as well (side to side engagement or not). Discuss or Argue the technology, one can set AutoTrac and not worry about damaging their transfer case or about different speeds of wheels on one side or the other while driving on dry pavement or gravel, etc. Like one could cause damage with 4Hi or 4Lo on similar surfaces. Example, set it during winter and not worry about it whether the road is wet, slushy, or snow packed. Of course for deep snow trudging, 4High or 4Low may be applicable. In summary, GM/Chevy provide such a transfer case in a Heavy Duty truck, an industry 1st, and still the only one. It is what it is.
@@nhlcfl7733 I think you're confusing AutoTrac, a marketing term, with automatic 4WD, which many manufacturers have, at least in their light duty trucks. This is if course different from AWD, regardless of platform. So, it's automatic 4WD, not AWD. Just wanted to clarify the difference. Whether Chevy is the first one to have this in a HD truck, I will assume you're right.
@@scottandrews4822 I agree it is a front to rear engagement or disengagement system. what I read in my manual is that while in AutoTrac mode, the system is monitoring traction all the time and when there is slippage at the rear, it automatically engages the front differential (tires included LOL) to provide added forward motion force from all 4 available tires. With the additional rear slip, it disallows those wheels from turning at the exact same speed amongst other features. Granted this AutoTrac feature will turn on and off numerous times during a road journey, it will wear those components more quickly than leaving it in 2WD. But, then why wouldn’t one use it like on changing gravel road conditions as I do already, and winter time as it adds that additional traction without thinking about it and needing to have your finger on the 4WD button (no one could react as fast as the sensor anyway). I’ve also had this on previous trucks (my 2013 Ram 1500 included had this option in their brand specific version and it never once failed or needed repairs through 7 years of Canadian winters while I owned that truck).
Driving 62 mile commute my 2018 hd gets 25 mpg on at times highway 27 if I really go around 60 mph or less while getting 800 miles a tank. But 20 inch rims on my LTZ trim, no thx I want 17s softer ride. Smooth as silk otherwise and would buy another one in 3 or 4 more years.
I was wondering if you’d re-upload this video. It is a GOOD video. I was shopping the GM HD’s and this is helpful. (My apologies, #TFLnow as I never intended for you to remove the video. I was only teasing as I, too, misspell silly things all the time)
Long term city driving and ownership has to be the worst for modern Diesel engines due to emissions. Diesels need to generate heat to reduce carbon buildup through the egr system as well as burning off particulates during regeneration which it will not do effectively with continued city driving.
I was under the impression that they did not put those hankook mud tires on the diesel trucks with the z71 sport package or midnight package, surprised to see they do. Not sure if you know it but the lower,12k bumper tow rating is due to those tires. Had you got any other tire, you’d have a 14k+ bumper tow rating.
i def believe the color match bumper/grill looks good on these over the chrome. ive actually been debating and thinking of trading in my 2020 Tacoma for a 2500 HD Silverado Gasser Cuctom Trim or a 7.3l Gas F250 FX4 XLT Trim.
Used car prices are way up and hard to find hard to even find new at least in the configuration you want right now. I have been considering selling my 2019 Suburban I bought just short of 2 years ago to buy a new High Country. I am a dealer myself but with the prices I have seen at the auction I haven't bought anything in months now. I don't see how I could make money but I saw a few 2019 Suburbans like mine asking as much as $55k that have up to 80k miles. Mine has 35k and I paid $41k for it at auction towards the end of the summer in 19. Guess I better sell mine now then with prices like that lol. Just finding the one I want is nearly impossible. The closest High Country I could find looking around was 200 miles away. Actually mom just totaled her 2017 Lincoln Continental and the insurance gave her an extra $10k to replace it because the prices are so far up. Hard to replace one of those since so few were sold and 2020 was the final year for them. Everybody wants SUVs though so I found a 2020 with 2400 miles on it that is equipped even better then her car was for $45k list price so maybe I can get it even cheaper. That one is hard to believe but I guess nobody wants the big sedans anymore they want SUVs. That car shows on Car Gurus that it has been listed for months and the price had been dropped a time or 2 already on it. Mom's was $65k the one I found was another $10-15k since mom's had the 2.7 Ecoboost this one I found has the 3.0 Ecoboost and it has the panoramic sunroof mom's didn't have that and its AWD. I think the color too is one of the colors that was an upcharge. Mom's still had the adaptive cruise and everything but it was a level down from the 2020 I found. Probably should go check that car out soon if she wants another Continental before somebody else buys it.
Ordering 2023 Chevy 2500 HD 6.6 gasser in red hot custom trim with convenience package and black accent package 2 Wheel Dr. power Driver seat audio controls on the steering wheel and I’m going to add a bed rug 6 inch flat stairs step and the tonneau cover and I’m done
Love the truck glad I bought 1 I got 2021 2500 midnight edition duramax everything black on 20s got in April last year its march now only got 1758 miles on it.. will get out soon want another rain only got wet wonce since left dealership.. got to many other toys lol I'd sell it to buy 22 if price was right
This is my absolute dream truck, and it kills me that I’m nowhere near being able to afford it…would love to pair it with our white suburban to take over as our main tow vehicle
@@pdawg7554 thanks. Hopefully they hired new designer there. Love my 2011 Denali with deleted duramax. But it’s 10 years old already. 230K miles on clock. Only problems I had it was emissions crap. That’s why I deleted it back in 2013
Please add interior sound to these reviews...can we get a decibel meter reading and some thoughtful feedbaxk on how welp dampened sound is. How does it compare to the more luxurious RAM?
Looking on their website with the build configurator going from a 2500 to a 3500 SRW only adds about $1000. It's been a few months since I checked though so it may have changed and I don't remember what the differences are.
@@prinpak6 Frame, axles, probably driveshaft, maybe brakes, all different between 3/4 and 1-ton trucks. I know a RAM 2500 Cummins is limited to 900 lb-ft of torque, whereas the RAM 3500 Cummins has over 1,000 lb-ft of torque. I think Ford and Chevy power rate their 3/4 and 1 ton diesels the same. RAM 2500 has coil springs on the rear axle and 3500 has leaf springs. There are a lot more differences than many people realize, probably more than I realize. Big Truck Big RV channel has done a few videos on the differences.
Great video as always I like that truck no chrome I would buy the duramax over the gas for the efficiency the gas is a good engine but duramax wins out
Would this truck be too high for a 35 foot Jayco 5th wheel? Meaning I don’t have to worry about the top of the rear fenders in the way of the camper. Never thought of it before you mentioned how high the truck sits stock.
I really would like to get one of these trucks. I like they way it sits up and like the diesel engine but I don't tow anything or haul anything that heavy. The half ton trucks are 50k and their gas engines and they sit low.
If it has the 10 speed transmission Allison Like Ford has you don't want the headache, recall.on Allison Ford 10 speed, splitting transmission apart, breaking everywhere
Hey Andre... How do you find the seats in comparison to the competition? I found the interior not terrible overall although dated but the seats felt like sitting on a cement bench lol. And I test drove a High Country....
@@davidlusk4350 me too. Damn ever since I sat in other trucks I keep saying the titan platinum reserve seats were superior to everything. Didn’t get the titan but damn I will always remember them.
Full motor lifters replacement at around 5k miles +/-... Mine (2021 Trailboss LT 5.3L) spent a month and a half in the dealer waiting for parts for a full lifters replacement! 🤦🏾♂️Really, les than 6 months of use, brand new with only 5 miles when I got it, and at 5.3k miles they had to open the entire motor to replace the lifters... 🤦🏾♂️ People do a good research on this issue and you'll see that the new GMs are garbage!... I'm trading mine for something more reliable like a Toyota Tundra! FYI...
76 grand seems like a lot but when u use it for a trade hauling etc it is…don’t buy it to buy groceries and complain …the power in these trucks is unreal
Wasn’t there an issue with the fuel pump on the diesel HD? I think it worked in other countries but not compatible with the ultra low sulfur in the US. Has that been remedied?
@@DrewGalyen thanks! It’s good to know these things if buying used. I’m sure I can research it but do you happen to know what year gm started the different fuel pump? I’m inclined to avoid the other years with the fuel issues.
2 things - Does that driver seat hurt the butt after a 5 hours drive due to cost savings in reducing the seat padding? Is that gas tank door really plastic and not steel?
I don't know why manufacturers do that in the 2000s i remember a majority of 3/4s have those marker lamps, at least the Denali/High Country + Laramie King ranch has those
@@BullittKid08 don’t take it at face value. Of course there are many differences. Cab lights are like badging. Do you know of any half tons with cab lights?
@@joeytakach7131 NO PREMIUM for the 6.6 gas which where I live is a dramatic savings over diesel. I believe you are thinking of the 6.2 which has high compression and premium is recommended.
The 10 speed transmission is the one developed jointly by GM and Ford. GM branded the transmission Allison for marketing purposes as Allison certified the transmission. GM no longer owns Allison.
Seems like it but it was an update as my Ford didn’t show gears till after my second oil change, which I assume the Ford dealership updated it while it was there.
What's going on at gm....¿ 6.6gas with6speed... Tell them get going on the 10 speed ...only reason I'm waiting on my new purchase. Will not be without 10 speed.
Its ahead of the Tundra interiors the Tundras look about on the same level as my 2007 dodge 2500 5.9 Cummins. Hopefully these new 2022 tundras bring it up to date
I got info from a plant worker in Texas yesterday. His plant uses all sort of oil,lube oil,and def fluid. There is a shortage of all these products...it is hurting the plant.A lot of employees have diesel trucks and are having a problem finding Def fluid. The employees think its contrived. Everybody...check it out.Many are putting their diesels up for sale.Please check this for yourself.
Andre you’re always the best on the channel. It amazes me how bad gm interiors are 9n these new trucks. This particular 76 thousand dollar dash looks like it was taken out of a 2015 base model Colorado. Shame on you, GM. SO far behind Ford and Ram.
I after seeing the new 2022/2023 interior revamp I'm sooooooooooooo glad I got my 2021 before they went ford/dodge with that terrible looking console shift and ridiculously ugly display screen
@@eriklee1264 bumper is the square hitch bolted to the rear frame and that's for minimum towing like 14,000+ lbs trailer capacity, and yes the bed towing (GN/5th whl) allows for more (max)
Bout swallowed my gum 76k.... Where is the value truck? 6.6 gas10 speed cloth ,wheel controls, carpet, G80 4.10 ... Basic up model sport... Which they now offer.
It's a waste of a vehicle if been chopped and screw by these young punks with their rich dad money by putting 28s 33s on them with flat all terrain tires.
I've owned my 2021 2500 HD gasser since Nov. 2020. I pull everything from a 33' camper to running Hot Shot loads up to 13,000 lbs. on a regular basis. The 6.6L handles all of it like a champ and has never overheated no matter the grade or temps. And icing on the cake is the fact it has been designed to do all of this on regular gas.
My pops just got a 2022 2500 for the fam and we love it. Only thing is im more of a a fan of the 2019 front end of the 2500
I have the 2021 Duramax, the 10-speed transmission is amazing! I'm Towing a grand design reflection 41ft 15000lbs. It tows like an absolute dream! There's nothing but Hills here in California! If you're not going up you're coming down, and this truck delivers all day!
I have a 2020 model with 35k on it and It has been absolutely awesome..... I tow all the time from light to heavy...... 35 inch tires fit stock and gets 16mpg average in the mountains 22.5 on trips and 8 mpg pulling 19k excavator with a conventional hitch (those numbers are just a recommendation lol) it pulls that easily! And these trucks actually have a 36 gallon tank not 34 like stated.... and with "only" 910lbs of tq it out pulls ford and dodge in the real world. Watch motor trend they did a tractor pull and the chevy ruled the roost! The bow tie is the only one that puts ALL the power to the ground, but you must choose trailer mode........ Andre should have read the manual..... most people don't then complain about stuff they don't know about lol, great review guys just read the manual about lots of things you don't know.....
Is yours a 2500 or 3500
@@chaddarr4834 2500.... feels like a one ton its so over built
Own one of these and towed a 41ft Montana 5th wheel from Colorado - Cali- Washington just under 4k miles averaged about 9.8 mpg. Love this truck and how the way it handles.
What’s the tongue weight and total weight on your capacity? Not full capacity.
Great review Andre. Lots of good information and is very much appreciated.
GM heavy duty trucks do not have panoramic glass roofs due to there is an antenna wire harness located there. I much prefer the traditional sunroof due to less problems. I have seen many panoramic glass roofs that have cracked from impact or stress. The stress cracks are located at the edges, which is weakest part of the glass.
Panoramic sunroof=city boy chit
@@twcstransam problem with that? I mean this truck comes with automatic tailgate. Sounds city boy like too. What about the automatic transmission. City too? Hmmm.
Lol. Come on man! Joe told me to say that. LOL!
Mean tweets 2024!
@@DtotheAtotheN guess you are unaware that manuals aren't offered in pickups any longer, and big trucks are about to stop manual sales too.
Back in December I bought a 2021 LTZ paid $44,500 love it never thought i would own one but I do now.
1500?
@@DrewGalyen I would assume for that price
All the brands and models are outrageously priced.
Inflation sucks! Bought mine last November, 2020 same exact Truck both year and model costs about 10-15k more now than it did then in the current market it is rough from where I am sitting too. Which I am honestly shocked that a brand new 2020 costs more now just blown away really. Feel blessed I was able to purchase it when I did.
I believe I’ll stick with my 21 year old 2500 (not HD) for awhile longer!
Paid less than 30 k for a highly optioned truck. (For it’s day) Still does all I want.
@@lcee6592 you sound like you may just be poor.
@@galvanizedgnome depends on what a person’s definition of “poor” is.
Maybe you are rich with lots of $$$$!
@@galvanizedgnome and you're apparently as classy as your response!
Great video Andre as always. Looking forward to seeing the new center stack and all over new upcoming interior design. Love it or hate it, very price competitive.
When is that supposed to happen as I'm in the market for a diesel 4x4 in the next 4 months or so
I have the exact same truck minus the sunroof and it’s red and I love it . I wish it had the 20’s . But other than that I finally got my dream truck . And let me tell you it was really hard to find one used in red . After a year of looking I finally found mine in Austin , Texas with 32,000 miles .
I have a 2021 Silverado 3500 Z71. Absolutely amazing vehicle.
Love the video!! Picked up my 2021 2500HD three weeks ago. I purchased the gas 6.6 with the 6L90. I pull a 36’ travel trailer which is a world of a difference towing with this beast compared to my ram 1500. I decided to upgrade due to the sway on the hyways. Big plus and good decision. I opted out for the durax because we just didn’t need it. The pay load on my gas truck is 3650 pound which is awesome. Thanks for the great videos!!😃😃😁
Super similar situation. We towed a 37 footer with a silverado 1500, a 2019. And just recently we picked up a 21 2500HD gas, love it. Its a midnight editon too
Just ordered a 2500hd over the weekend. Just curious what your lead time was for getting yours once your order was placed?
My story was similar. Had a 2013 RAM 1500, but their suspension couldn't cut it with our 31ft. Toy Hauler. My 2500HD is so much more solid / secure towing and of course there is so much more available power and convenience as well.
Excellent Review Andre! I own a Loaded 2021 3500HD LTZ Duramax. I purchased it back in Late Jan 21 right before everything went crazy with availability and price. We tow a 2021 Grand Design Reflection 303RLS Fifth Wheel with this truck. Towing in the mountains (we live in the Sierra) the mpg is about 10.5. When unloaded on flat highway I have seen 21 mpg over a 500 mile trip. You are correct about full torque not being applied from a start (2500HD) but this is not the case on the 3500 as it has a larger rear end and more robust drive line. Full torque and HP are available from a standing start. At 14000 miles to date I love this truck we have bonded LOL.
I just saw this truck at used Honda dealership. 2500HD with 30,000 miles and the asking price is 54.000. I'm going to wait to see if it drops in three weeks
The 2500hd gas custom trims are about 52k here in GA. In this market better to buy a new one. But I think I’m gonna wait till 2023 middle to see the market and then decide on purchasing
2022 3500 hd dually I had a 2500 ram and I know you can’t compare apples to oranges, but I do believe gm did a great job with this line of trucks
My 2019 3500 single wheel is rated for 11400 so basically the same as this 2500. Only the 2019 is about 350 pounds lighter and shorter and narrower so I can still park it. I really like all the improvements in the new trucks but the size is a deal killer.
Andre just bought a 2022 2500 Silverado duramax based on this video. The most informative thing in this review was your commentary regarding Chevy increasing the gvwr to 11350. The one I purchased has 3400 lbs of payload capacity. I thought I was going to need to purchase a 1ton for payload capacity. I pull a travel trailer and wanted a diesel for the exhaust break. I traded in my 2019 Tundra crew max which pulled my trailer excellently for the Silverado. GM please continue to provide vehicles to TFL as Andre and Mr. Truck do an excellent job with the Ike Guantlet tests. Additionally you adding the lift pump and new TCM to these trucks greatly increase reliability of them and improve your customers satisfaction.
I just came here to say, no I don't want to buy a new HD Chevy. But I can't wait for you guys to go over the new Tundra. Great video btw, you guys are the best.
Sounds like some things have changed from 2020-2021 models. For example I noticed the wheel wells in the bed of the truck protrude more versus the 2020 so less room in the bed. Also fuel tank lost 2 Gallons versus the 2020 model going from a 36 gallon tank to a 34 gallon tank. Also what I consider a significant reduction in weight capacity towing from the bumper versus the 2020 from 14,500 to 12,000 is unreal. The materials required to build must have cost to much so it looks like they trimmed it down a tad. Still a great truck but I would prefer the LT model because 75k is just to much money for me. Love my 2020 and look forward to years of enjoyment out of it. I have had zero issues with my Chevy 2020 2500 LT I have 15,900 miles on it. I am a repeat Chevy truck owner because they always get me home.
The 12000 pounds, believe it or not, is due to the MT tires. All other tires have the higher tow ratings.
I had a 2003 2500HD and I miss it, I traded it in for a 2016 F150 and have nothing but disappointments with payload and a few other things....evaluating buying a new F250, Chevy 2500HD or GMC 2500 HD....Their packages are terrible to get one thing you want your jumping 8k in prices FML
Getting ready to order a 22 2500HD LT with the Z71 Sports Edition and gasser.
If I were you I would wait to see the 2023 model year. They are getting a refresh. See if you like it
@@pdawg7554 the HD's do not get a refresh until the 26 model year
im thinkin of trading my 2020 Tacoma for a 2500 Silverado Gasser Custom trim
Hell yeah bro! Update us on how the ordering went 👍
Just ordered that same truck, in the Northsky Blue! Hopefully will be here in December 🤞
76k before dealer shortage mark up & tax.. these new trucks are nice but there's no real value in what you get in return for all that money.
No. 1 on the list should be to expect to wait a year to get one. The Chevy dealer in my town has 0 new vehicles. None, Nada. Can't get anything new in stock and I was told I would have to wait a very long time if I ordered one now.
I waited 16 weeks... So a little less than 4 months. Every manufacturer is having the same issue
Thanks Andre; great detailed review. I’m enjoying ownership of my 2020 2500HD gasser (6.6L) in a Double Cab LT model; totally good enough for me (don’t care for leather or sunroofs) and for hauling our 31ft. travel trailer (much more solid & secure than a 1/2 ton). Regarding the choice of GM to stick with the 6spd. 6L90 trans., as you I'm sure you saw your friend Kent (Mr. Truck) interview the GM Transmissions Eng. (Richard M.), he provided valid reasons for it. How it has been one of their most reliable trans. in the entire GM/Chev Grouping, also having very high JD Power rating. Glad to have heard that tranny is used in their racing performance cars and Camaro ZL1, yet beefed up for the HD Trucks with components from the HD diesel transmission. Fortunately, I don’t need a diesel (not a daily hauler), and do I love the efficiency & power results of its Direct Fuel Injection, as well as added road safety with AutoTrac (mild yet effective type of AWD) that I use virtually all winter long and on some gravel roads in summer. I could go on about what I love (side steps on the box side, the roomy box which I've added the GM exclusive Side Mounted Bed Storage Box set (2; one for each side) that leaves me with 4 ft. width and full box length, yet allows me to store lots of emergency and other goodies and out of the way (the internal version of a Ram Box). Anyway, I think this naturally aspirated engine is built to last for many years with only minor issues and regular expected maintenance. Take care Andre and crew and thanks again for showing this truck 🛻👍🏼. PS, I did buy an Oil Catch Can unit just to be extra sure I capture any residual blow by, mitigating future caking or coking of components like Intake Valves.
@NHL CFL Nice truck, but it's 4WD not AWD An AWD system is when the computer controls F/R and side-to-side driving of the wheels, whereas 4WD like you have is F/R only.. There is no side -to-side control.
@@scottandrews4822 Hi Scott. Regarding AWD, as you may know there are many versions of it (QuadraTrac, 4matic, Quattro, SH-AWD, xDrive, Symmetrical AWD, etc., etc.). AutoTrac is certainly front and rear connection or disconnection and with a limited slip differential as well (side to side engagement or not). Discuss or Argue the technology, one can set AutoTrac and not worry about damaging their transfer case or about different speeds of wheels on one side or the other while driving on dry pavement or gravel, etc. Like one could cause damage with 4Hi or 4Lo on similar surfaces. Example, set it during winter and not worry about it whether the road is wet, slushy, or snow packed. Of course for deep snow trudging, 4High or 4Low may be applicable. In summary, GM/Chevy provide such a transfer case in a Heavy Duty truck, an industry 1st, and still the only one. It is what it is.
@@nhlcfl7733 I think you're confusing AutoTrac, a marketing term, with automatic 4WD, which many manufacturers have, at least in their light duty trucks. This is if course different from AWD, regardless of platform. So, it's automatic 4WD, not AWD. Just wanted to clarify the difference. Whether Chevy is the first one to have this in a HD truck, I will assume you're right.
@@scottandrews4822 I agree it is a front to rear engagement or disengagement system. what I read in my manual is that while in AutoTrac mode, the system is monitoring traction all the time and when there is slippage at the rear, it automatically engages the front differential (tires included LOL) to provide added forward motion force from all 4 available tires. With the additional rear slip, it disallows those wheels from turning at the exact same speed amongst other features. Granted this AutoTrac feature will turn on and off numerous times during a road journey, it will wear those components more quickly than leaving it in 2WD. But, then why wouldn’t one use it like on changing gravel road conditions as I do already, and winter time as it adds that additional traction without thinking about it and needing to have your finger on the 4WD button (no one could react as fast as the sensor anyway). I’ve also had this on previous trucks (my 2013 Ram 1500 included had this option in their brand specific version and it never once failed or needed repairs through 7 years of Canadian winters while I owned that truck).
Driving 62 mile commute my 2018 hd gets 25 mpg on at times highway 27 if I really go around 60 mph or less while getting 800 miles a tank. But 20 inch rims on my LTZ trim, no thx I want 17s softer ride. Smooth as silk otherwise and would buy another one in 3 or 4 more years.
Thank you so much!!! The perfect truck for work or play!!!! I LOVE IT!!!! Great video and education. Thanks for sharing!!!!
I was wondering if you’d re-upload this video. It is a GOOD video. I was shopping the GM HD’s and this is helpful. (My apologies, #TFLnow as I never intended for you to remove the video. I was only teasing as I, too, misspell silly things all the time)
@Luke Edward Why re-upload?
Absolutely beautiful truck! I just picked up one, I'm in love! Lol! Awesome video Andre!
They are the ugliest trucks ive ever seen
Just bought a 2021 so far nothing but troubles!! 12200 miles in shop 8 times
diesel or gas? What kind of problems are you having?
I have a 2021 3500 with duramax with 3800 miles. To shop 1 time for service esc and failed to start...
Long term city driving and ownership has to be the worst for modern Diesel engines due to emissions. Diesels need to generate heat to reduce carbon buildup through the egr system as well as burning off particulates during regeneration which it will not do effectively with continued city driving.
I was under the impression that they did not put those hankook mud tires on the diesel trucks with the z71 sport package or midnight package, surprised to see they do. Not sure if you know it but the lower,12k bumper tow rating is due to those tires. Had you got any other tire, you’d have a 14k+ bumper tow rating.
Wonder what it would be with Goodyear Duratracs?
What a beautiful truck
I'd rather a ten inch screen like this and redundant analog switchgear for everything than a 12 Inch tablet with no buttons for anything.
3500HD Duramax have NO torque management (because SRW come with 12 in. vs 23500HD's 11.5in rear gear)
i def believe the color match bumper/grill looks good on these over the chrome. ive actually been debating and thinking of trading in my 2020 Tacoma for a 2500 HD Silverado Gasser Cuctom Trim or a 7.3l Gas F250 FX4 XLT Trim.
Both good choices man. The new Godzilla is a beast! But the looks of the Chevy are so aggressive 💪
My dad drove a used 2021 Chevy 2500 High country from his dealership and used it sold at 79000!
Used car prices are way up and hard to find hard to even find new at least in the configuration you want right now. I have been considering selling my 2019 Suburban I bought just short of 2 years ago to buy a new High Country. I am a dealer myself but with the prices I have seen at the auction I haven't bought anything in months now. I don't see how I could make money but I saw a few 2019 Suburbans like mine asking as much as $55k that have up to 80k miles. Mine has 35k and I paid $41k for it at auction towards the end of the summer in 19. Guess I better sell mine now then with prices like that lol. Just finding the one I want is nearly impossible. The closest High Country I could find looking around was 200 miles away. Actually mom just totaled her 2017 Lincoln Continental and the insurance gave her an extra $10k to replace it because the prices are so far up. Hard to replace one of those since so few were sold and 2020 was the final year for them. Everybody wants SUVs though so I found a 2020 with 2400 miles on it that is equipped even better then her car was for $45k list price so maybe I can get it even cheaper. That one is hard to believe but I guess nobody wants the big sedans anymore they want SUVs. That car shows on Car Gurus that it has been listed for months and the price had been dropped a time or 2 already on it. Mom's was $65k the one I found was another $10-15k since mom's had the 2.7 Ecoboost this one I found has the 3.0 Ecoboost and it has the panoramic sunroof mom's didn't have that and its AWD. I think the color too is one of the colors that was an upcharge. Mom's still had the adaptive cruise and everything but it was a level down from the 2020 I found. Probably should go check that car out soon if she wants another Continental before somebody else buys it.
Great review
Ordering 2023 Chevy 2500 HD 6.6 gasser in red hot custom trim with convenience package and black accent package 2 Wheel Dr. power Driver seat audio controls on the steering wheel and I’m going to add a bed rug 6 inch flat stairs step and the tonneau cover and I’m done
Love the truck glad I bought 1 I got 2021 2500 midnight edition duramax everything black on 20s got in April last year its march now only got 1758 miles on it.. will get out soon want another rain only got wet wonce since left dealership.. got to many other toys lol I'd sell it to buy 22 if price was right
This is my absolute dream truck, and it kills me that I’m nowhere near being able to afford it…would love to pair it with our white suburban to take over as our main tow vehicle
Just get a used one
The LT model is more affordable
Heavily looking at getting a duramax for my next truck. It's between a cummins and a duramax.
I’m planning on buying the 2023 refreshed Sierra HD
If they will update interior I will wait, if not I guess it will be cummins
@@marcelo403polo2 the 2022 half tons and 2023 heavy duty’s are getting redesigned interiors as well as redesigned taillights and front end
@@pdawg7554 thanks. Hopefully they hired new designer there. Love my 2011 Denali with deleted duramax. But it’s 10 years old already. 230K miles on clock. Only problems I had it was emissions crap. That’s why I deleted it back in 2013
I hate the stupid shifters on the dash, I like column shifters.
Please add interior sound to these reviews...can we get a decibel meter reading and some thoughtful feedbaxk on how welp dampened sound is. How does it compare to the more luxurious RAM?
The 18 inch rims help it ride smooth also on factory 20s rear is a little stiff
I would rather have the 3500 HD with the diesel. I bet that thing would cost me big $$&.
$$$.
Looking on their website with the build configurator going from a 2500 to a 3500 SRW only adds about $1000. It's been a few months since I checked though so it may have changed and I don't remember what the differences are.
Only difference is payload right?
@@prinpak6 Frame, axles, probably driveshaft, maybe brakes, all different between 3/4 and 1-ton trucks. I know a RAM 2500 Cummins is limited to 900 lb-ft of torque, whereas the RAM 3500 Cummins has over 1,000 lb-ft of torque. I think Ford and Chevy power rate their 3/4 and 1 ton diesels the same. RAM 2500 has coil springs on the rear axle and 3500 has leaf springs. There are a lot more differences than many people realize, probably more than I realize. Big Truck Big RV channel has done a few videos on the differences.
I love the lack of crone and all the black. Can you please inform me what option this is to get this truck ?
Great video as always I like that truck no chrome I would buy the duramax over the gas for the efficiency the gas is a good engine but duramax wins out
What is your payback period for the initial $8,000 you need to pay for the diesel?
It depends on what your using your diesel for if it’s your own business and u make good money
Resale worth that difference…….plus some.
Would this truck be too high for a 35 foot Jayco 5th wheel? Meaning I don’t have to worry about the top of the rear fenders in the way of the camper. Never thought of it before you mentioned how high the truck sits stock.
I really would like to get one of these trucks. I like they way it sits up and like the diesel engine but I don't tow anything or haul anything that heavy. The half ton trucks are 50k and their gas engines and they sit low.
Better to has the ability and not need it. Rather than need it and not have it.
If it has the 10 speed transmission Allison Like Ford has you don't want the headache, recall.on Allison Ford 10 speed, splitting transmission apart, breaking everywhere
Do all GMC/Silverado 2500's come with the max tow trailering package?
I want an upfitter flatbed to carry a truck camper. Should I order a 3500 cab and chassis or a 3500 HD with pickup bed delete? Thanks
Hey Andre... How do you find the seats in comparison to the competition? I found the interior not terrible overall although dated but the seats felt like sitting on a cement bench lol. And I test drove a High Country....
Thx, I think the seats in all are OK but not great. The titan xd had best seats I've ever sat in the platinum version
@@davidlusk4350 me too. Damn ever since I sat in other trucks I keep saying the titan platinum reserve seats were superior to everything. Didn’t get the titan but damn I will always remember them.
I love my 2020 1 tonner gasser
Thanks Andre. Good video, Nice 2500 H.D. !
Thanks, I’m thinking about getting me one.
I know I'm in the minority, but I love the look of this truck, especially the grill. Bad @$$!
Full motor lifters replacement at around 5k miles +/-... Mine (2021 Trailboss LT 5.3L) spent a month and a half in the dealer waiting for parts for a full lifters replacement! 🤦🏾♂️Really, les than 6 months of use, brand new with only 5 miles when I got it, and at 5.3k miles they had to open the entire motor to replace the lifters... 🤦🏾♂️
People do a good research on this issue and you'll see that the new GMs are garbage!... I'm trading mine for something more reliable like a Toyota Tundra! FYI...
76 grand seems like a lot but when u use it for a trade hauling etc it is…don’t buy it to buy groceries and complain …the power in these trucks is unreal
Huh, my 2021 AT4 2500 HD is 14,000 something bumper pull weight? 6'10" bed, 6.6 gas. Crew cab.
I saw on another video that the seat cooling only stays on for a few minutes. Can you confirm this?
The seat cooling stays on as long as you have the vehicle on
Wasn’t there an issue with the fuel pump on the diesel HD? I think it worked in other countries but not compatible with the ultra low sulfur in the US. Has that been remedied?
Think you're talking about the old CP4 fuel pump they used, it's been replaced I believe.
@@DrewGalyen thanks! It’s good to know these things if buying used. I’m sure I can research it but do you happen to know what year gm started the different fuel pump? I’m inclined to avoid the other years with the fuel issues.
2 things - Does that driver seat hurt the butt after a 5 hours drive due to cost savings in reducing the seat padding? Is that gas tank door really plastic and not steel?
A heavy duty truck should come standard with cab lights!! Only the dually is standard. That separates the truck from the light duty trucks.
Cab lights? Really? There's way more significant differences between the 1500 and 2500 besides dopey cab lights
Hope your joking
I don't know why manufacturers do that in the 2000s i remember a majority of 3/4s have those marker lamps, at least the Denali/High Country + Laramie King ranch has those
It costs like 50$ as a build option. Yet most dealers don’t order them with them. My 2021 2500 doesn’t have them. Disappointed.
@@BullittKid08 don’t take it at face value. Of course there are many differences. Cab lights are like badging. Do you know of any half tons with cab lights?
The diesel gets about the same fuel mileage as the 6.6 gas. The gas gets 14 city and 20 on the highway.
But your putting in premium fuel which in most states cost more than diesel so the 6.6 diesel saves you money and tows more.
@@joeytakach7131 NO PREMIUM for the 6.6 gas which where I live is a dramatic savings over diesel. I believe you are thinking of the 6.2 which has high compression and premium is recommended.
Which transmission does it have, hopefully 6 speed
@@lyleswavel320 Yes, the 6.6 gas only comes with the 6 speed and it is bullet proof.
@@mnichols2773 direct injection was iffy and the 6 speed was meh...
Own a 21 Ram 2500 with the 6.4
I want one
I thought GM started building their own transmissions? But call it Allison.
They let allison look over specs and approved it is a gm built transmission. Let you be the judge of how you think that'll end lol
The 10 speed transmission is the one developed jointly by GM and Ford. GM branded the transmission Allison for marketing purposes as Allison certified the transmission. GM no longer owns Allison.
@@heddingmyway5442
The 10 speed used in the 1/2 ton trucks was developed with Ford.
@@heddingmyway5442 That is only for the 1500 and cars. The HD is different between the two.
If you don’t have these trucks under your business license then there’s no write off an be prepared for that big car note to be payed out
Is the Ford 10 speed the only truck that shows you what gear you're in?
Seems like it but it was an update as my Ford didn’t show gears till after my second oil change, which I assume the Ford dealership updated it while it was there.
Bought my LTZ TX edition Duramax 2500 miles and my leaf springs is making noise a horrible noise. I greased them and still making the awful noise
Take it back to the dealer, under warranty get it fixed not a huge deal
If your going to use a fifth wheel or a goose neck do you recommend regular size bed or the 8 ft bed? 🤔
I saw a video, you can get the truck to make a 90 degree turn with the regular bed
The new 21-22 bed has the hitch ball abt 5 inches further from the cab so it’ll swing like an 8 ft ram bed.
@@chucknSC thanks
Why do they make the receiver so big? 2 1/2”.
Toyota called, they want thier ugly front end back
That’s an absolutely gorgeous truck
I want one of these so bad, if only I can afford one.
What's going on at gm....¿ 6.6gas with6speed... Tell them get going on the 10 speed ...only reason I'm waiting on my new purchase. Will not be without 10 speed.
What is the stock tire size?
275/65/20
I would consider the fact it’s the ugliest truck ever with an interior that looks to be about 6 years dated.
Its ahead of the Tundra interiors the Tundras look about on the same level as my 2007 dodge 2500 5.9 Cummins. Hopefully these new 2022 tundras bring it up to date
@@brandonmick9191 IMO, the Tundra has a better interior than this, despite being slightly updated in 2014.
Yes indeed, it's the ugliest pos to ever hit the highway
Hope u have a successful business to make this truck earn that 76k ...not for going to the mall
Or if you can afford it. Get what you want.
I prefer Home Depoe over the mall.
@@denniskirk4055 $100 bucks a pop to fill it up ( my friend has one) no money left to buy a sheet of plywood at these lumber prices
I got info from a plant worker in Texas yesterday. His plant uses all sort of oil,lube oil,and def fluid. There is a shortage of all these products...it is hurting the plant.A lot of employees have diesel trucks and are having a problem finding Def fluid. The employees think its contrived. Everybody...check it out.Many are putting their diesels up for sale.Please check this for yourself.
Gee, do you think they could have written the word "Chevrolet" a little bigger across the front? Ridiculous.
True but it looks better then the crappie Chevy decal
$76,000 is insane!
They dont really depreciate. My 2014 Duramax only depreciated 50 percent over 7.5 years. The Duramax/Allison option ads $10k to the sticker price.
Andre you’re always the best on the channel. It amazes me how bad gm interiors are 9n these new trucks. This particular 76 thousand dollar dash looks like it was taken out of a 2015 base model Colorado. Shame on you, GM. SO far behind Ford and Ram.
Be prepared to pay 90 thousand dollars and 12 or 13 hundred a month.....you either live in it or your truck poor lmao 🤣
My trucks make me money
Love the features (and bed size) of this truck, but I went Cummins because the GM is unfortunately so ugly.
Damn..... that front end is downright FUGLY!
Starting to look like a ram but I still think ram is way ahead
I after seeing the new 2022/2023 interior revamp I'm sooooooooooooo glad I got my 2021 before they went ford/dodge with that terrible looking console shift and ridiculously ugly display screen
Can you do one of the chevrolet silverado lt 1500 2020 5.3 and what is your opinion of the engine and transmission
6.6 vs 6.2
12000# bumper pull only? I do not believe you 🤓
My 2011 if I remember correct has 16500lb bumper pull
Bumper pull is the same as gooseneck/5th wheel number
@@eriklee1264 bumper is the square hitch bolted to the rear frame and that's for minimum towing like 14,000+ lbs trailer capacity, and yes the bed towing (GN/5th whl) allows for more (max)
My 1500 Ram is rated for 11k... shouldn't a 3/4 ton pull closer to 15k?
@@erindowd2793 trust me!!! You don’t want to tow over 10k lbs with half ton truck
Bout swallowed my gum 76k.... Where is the value truck? 6.6 gas10 speed cloth ,wheel controls, carpet, G80 4.10 ... Basic up model sport... Which they now offer.
thats a face only a mother could love.
These trucks are beasts. Boats, farm equipment, car trailers etc. if you don’t haul these items then don’t buy them.
It's a waste of a vehicle if been chopped and screw by these young punks with their rich dad money by putting 28s 33s on them with flat all terrain tires.
Their HD is probably Chevy truck truck still made well
Fugly truck 🤣🤣 but love the shows👍👍
Nice 😀
Buddys has 48 thousand kms been in shop
More than the road. Soo much wrong with these new duramax trucks
Very ugly front face for the HD chevy screw up this time