The New 2020 Chevy Silverado HD Gasser Broke Our Ike Gauntlet Scoring System - Here Is How!
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Great review, really thorough and honest. Well done
Thanks
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@@MrTruckTV I would love to see this review with a 3500 and driving it like a person actually would. Nobody that I know that tows would leave the truck in D driving up or down that hill with 16K pounds behind it.
What kind of mpg are y’all getting? Especially when not towing.
Oh my god! A new vehicle with knobs instead of everything being on the touchscreen! I love it!
I’m not a fan of all this new electronic crap either.
Love your comment. If they axed all the BS electronics that aren't needed we would pay a lot less for trucks.
GM should have kept the 4.10 axle ratio and gave the 6.6 the 10 speed...maybe they could at least offer it as a Max Trailering Package option? I realize not all end users need max towing.
truckguyjoe after GM breaking their contract with Ford Ford probably refused to allow them to use their 10 speed in this truck
I'd think they'll do it later as "upgrades." We all know all OEM's plan the entire life of this generation fairly well, including incremental upgrades.
@@ripfletching it's not Ford's transmission. It was a joint venture but word is Ford did more on this, GM did more on the fwd 9 speed. GM doesn't need permission from Ford to us their own transmission
truckguyjoe even a 5.10 gear ratio would not have improved the time.
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: the lower the rear axle ratio the higher the tow rating. That's why medium duty trucks with the highest GCWR have the lowest available rear axle ratio. If we are talking 3/4 ton gas pickup trucks...consumers who tow want the 4.10 (lower rear axle) not the 3.73. GM should have kept the lower rear axle mated to the 6 speed auto. The icing on the cake would be a 4.10 with the 10-speed auto...or at the bare minimum give GM the 10-speed mated to the 3.73 in lieu of the 6 speed. We are not talking about fuel mileage here. We are talking max towing and max gross combination weight rating. Look at Ford, RAM, or Chevy Medium online order guide and towing application. The lower the rear end...4.30...4.88...the more they are rated to tow and the higher the GCWR. It's all about the launch...getting the load moving and keeping the engine in the torque curve.
I remember back when 6 speeds was a lot
That's not very far back. How about 3 on the tree
Are we gonna just ignore the fact that you have an effed up haircut ... Jesus effing christ
My Mustang GT has a 5 speed :)
My Tacoma is 4 speed auto 6 is still a lot to me 😂
@@freedomisntfree_44 my father 2005 Yukon has 4 speed automatic too. But it's still get very good fuel mileage for the weight and displacement.
The 10spd would have absolutely helped. Having a smaller gear split would help this engine stay on its torque curve while in the hard pulls. I really hope that trans finds it's way into this truck sooner rather than later.
Model year 2024 has entered the chat.
finally did.
Only a Gm would be applauded for the steering wheel and seat being straight inline.
Should be given an Award 1st year in 15 LOL
This is new to me. What do you mean by that? Researching trucks am weighing the pros and cons.
Thanks.
Rxonmymind GM/Chevy trucks steering wheels are not aligned with the steering column
@@rxonmymind8362 The steering wheel on older GM trucks wasn't inline with the seat. It was offset to the right. I don't know if they still do that or when they stopped. It never bothered me on my '97 GMC though...
jrhunt414 2017 trucks are still offset not centered
I can't believe I found you guys like 2 years ago by chance, just searching for videos of fully loaded trucks hauling up long mountain passes. All your videos and series are fun, informative, and awesome!
I would love to see you guys get a late 90s Chevy with a 454 and the 8100 vortec and compare them to each other and contemporary vehicles as well
Make it so!
I’d love to see the same thing, but I predict the results to be underwhelming. I had a 1997 F350 standard cab with a 5-spd manual and 460, and it was a dog. The power was low in the RPM range like you’d expect from a big block, there just wasn’t enough of it, and it drank like a sailor in the process.
Lol my dad has a 454 c3500 it's certainly not great.
It’ll move the same weight, trust me I’ve tried.
The speed is not even close, the brakes are not even close, and while that 454 won’t fail, something else will
Te 8.1 is a bit slower but town better, the 7.4 is great and has a little bit more top speed. The block is just the same . Great engines.
This Chevy just towed 16,0000# at high elevations up hill with a small block V8. Sounds like biggest issue was the transmission wouldn't down shift to maintain speed.
Ray D the gear spacing appeared not ideal for that much weight, grade and elevation. Would love to see GM offer a low cost option to pair this 6.6 with the 10-speed.
it would downshift then accelerate to redline then upshift but it didnt have the power to hold the higher gear and then it wouldnt alow downshift again to save the trans. they should allow the lower gear and have programing in to stop it from getting to redline in that gear and hold say 4500ish or so maybe 5000 rpm in that gear until the grade lessens instead of grabbing the next gear and sitting at 3000rpm and going 25
@@gagt5spd Chevy needs to take a lesson from Ford. The Ford V10 was paired to a 5 speed transmission which, the first 3 gears are close ratio, so the tranny can keep the motor in the power up to 65 mph. Duh Chevy!
They should do it again out of rotation for the testing.. using the manual mode maybe it would help
That's why you put the transmission in manual mode
Great review. They pulled 16,000 lbs, UPHILL, at 2 miles ABOVE sea level, with a GAS engine 3/4 ton SRW! The truck did it. I wouldn't complain about those times, speeds, or brake applications. 3/4 ton gassers were rated for 9250# towing just several years ago. I also would never attempt that. Ponder the physics. This is getting silly.
And they were overweight on pin capacity
There's a thing called trailer brakes..
@@elonmust7470 lol. I think I've heard of those.
@@sharkskin3448 I used to pull around a 2 axle flatbed with a 1974 f250 with with a 390 that had been gone through back in the 80s. I've had close to 30,000 lbs on that trailer. 1st gear low range, wide open throttle, pulling concrete troughs through the San Luis Obispo hills on the Chimineas Ranch. Point is that loaded flatbed trailer would've shoved the old ford down the first hill it tried to descent without trailer brakes. With trailer brakes you could just engine brake down the hill. I'm not talking about public roads either, steep, very steep stuff. Sometimes that 390 would get hot & start backfiring when at WOT but it never gave up. Some old timer from Bakersfield rebult it with a bunch of Crower stuff. Thing loped like it wasn't a torque motor when it was cold.
@@elonmust7470 public roads are bad places to take chances, tho. I had medium skid steer nearly push my f250 through a downhill 4-way. The trailer was from an equipment rental dealer. I finished my trip VERY carefully, being a late Saturday afternoon. I'm old enough to not trust other people's shit anymore.
Great test. I would like to see the test with a lighter trailer - maybe 10,000lbs. Most people towing over 15,000lbs will choose the diesel.
Or even 5-7 000 pounds like most people with tow haulers and RV crowd tow.
@@paulmiodowski 5-7k lbs is 1/2 ton territory and most toy hualers are over 7klbs
@@paulmiodowski lmfao why would you get a 3/4 ton for a 6k lb trailer?
@@jaycevessier7554 payload. 10-15% tongue weight on a 6k trailer, you’re left with very little remaining payload if you get a loaded 1/2 ton, especially if towing shifting live weight (horses).
Not true due to diesels being heavier engines... gas engines can hold a higher payload. A lot of times on diesels you can outtow your payload and so the payload actually kills your max towing.
only a mother could love that front end and those mirrors
mobgma i hate the mirrors only way i would get the current body style is with the 1500 mirrors
@@brandonhensel1301 agreed. front end is still 50/50
Okay that's great great review but what about towing an 8,000 lb trailer because most people never tow a 16,000 lb trailer
I love the big square industrial look of these trucks
Really looking forward to seeing how that new Ford 7.3 does in the Super Duty with the Tremor package.
This review was very useful for making a personal truck buying decision. Thank you for the accurate and honest evaluation!
Thank you tfl for bringing it to us first excellent review !!!!
Great content as always! It would be cool to see a comparison of how each truck's score stacks up to the competition at the end of each of these Ike Gauntlet runs
Finally someone who understands air density.. 5:33 he said " we're losing a lot air density, there is about 30% less".. As in " 30% less air" lol.. Great video!
Great video! Seeing how this truck was hitting the bump stops so much I would run Timbren load cushions with a Roadmaster active suspension to help control the weight with all the money saved buying a Duramax.
I love your towing tests. Do you ever do Ike gauntlet test with heavy payload? As a truck camper guy it would be great to know how the new crop gas and diesel HD dually trucks handle 5-6000 lb truck campers!
Look fellas it's a heavy duty Aztek
genuinejesse Ain’t that the truth god awful ugly like that one character from family guy with the upside down head
Penetrator I own one of those 1500’s and I like that HD front more
Look at his picture guys, it's a Lifted Ford Ranchero
Whatever....that front end is aggressive and cool looking- obviously...
The truck is ugly
I love these test. Keep up the good work. Awesome.
Finally real world reviews great work 👊
Gasser saves $10k from the un-hackable epa Dmax, so use the extra money for a 50 state legal magnussen supercharger, tow awesome and never worry about DPF or fuel systems again + fill up anywhere.
The Dmax will always be hackable. The trick is finding a shop willing to delete and tune the latest model ones.
@@inchaoswearereborn9586
I swear it gets harder every time the GM fun police get a new idea. I've never owned a Chevy (for other reasons) but my friend had a 2004 2500 and then a 2012. His 2004 cost around $600 for a 4" downpipe back exhaust and a custom tuner. The 2012, on the other hand, was around 2k all in. Meanwhile, another friend driving a 2013 6.7 powerstroke spent less than a thousand dollars on his delete and tune.
For tuning on L5P go to Duramax Tuners. Cost is just over 5k.
There are already 2020's out their deleted and tuned look it up
Iam contemplating the same thing just no real world reviews out there yet the strike didn't help supply
Andre: At this elevation the engine is struggling.
Mr. Truck: That's right, and that fake hood scoop isn't giving it any extra air.
Landed it.
Totally hit the nail on the head, it used to be just Toyota putting fake hood scoops on their trucks. Disappointed GM is doing the fake scoop thing too
the scoops on their HD trucks are functional
@@aaronkellar6583 Just the diesels.
I'm guessing it's just easier and cheaper for gm to have the same hood for both gas and diesel rather than separate ones? Saves the customer a little money that way and nobody will probably complain about the look on a big tough 3/4 ton pickup.
@@jamesnm21 Agreed. Even though it's not functional it definitely adds a cool look.
You guys always do such good review videos!
This was a good run up the super ike just as the 2017 Silverado 2500 HD Ext cab did with its super ike run but this new truck is pulling more weight and a different trailer which added a heavier pin wt and more wind resistance the flat bed trailer did not have.
The '17 run was done with the 360 hp 380 tq 6.0 V8, 4.10 rear pulling a 13,500 lbs goose neck trailer.
Time: 10:22 MPG: 2.3 Brake applications: 13 Noise Decibels: 71 Slowest Speed Observed: 23 MPH
This '20 Crew Cab Silverado trucks 401 hp 464 tq 6.6 V8, 3.73 rear was pulling a 16,000 lbs tall horse trailer.
Time: 11:53 MPG: 2.4 Brake applications: 10 Noise Decibels: 68.7 Slowest Speed Observed: 25 MPH
This new run was pretty good considering that massive wind brake of a trailer and added wt. used in this years testing.
2017 was the dually correct??
@@davidlusk4350... 2500 3/4 tons trucks are single wheel only.
That truck needs the 10 spd in a big way.
Indeed I am sure they fixed all the issues with it by now for this beast to use
It needs something.
Considering a tradesman will get this truck 10 to 15 years later, the 6 speed is better due to cost to repair. The truck should have came with a 4.10, but that's a cheap easy upgrade most of us can do.
No, it needs a 100 speed! Not.
The ten speed is an allison. They'll never mate an allison to a gas job again
That 2-3 upshift at 5:25 kills it. Locked in 2nd gear would have shaved minutes.
Gives you a new respect for how well old Big Green did on that tow test!
Thanks for a good review and hitting the points we care about when hauling. I really like the effort you put into standardized testing and grading. We need more honest evaluations and yours are among the fairest I have found. It would be nice to hear how the heavy duty 4WD dimensions rank, like will full size chains fit the wheel wells, does the truck have ground clearance, etc., but that may be asking too much. Thanks again.
I still cant deal with that front end.
Well, if you own a desktop Mac pro it'll match. 😄
I think the half tons look like shit but the hd’s are nice.
TR P have you seen one in person? They look pretty bad ass imo.
I like it
@@trp2413 I agree, GM seems to create a monstrosity every few years.🤢
Now that's a cool camera shot. Maybe that's something you do on all trucks now.
I love the song you guys use during these videos, Trading in my Suns.. ❤
Fantastic review guys 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Can’t wait to see 7.3L Ford at work.
Can't wait to see the chevy 8.4 in the works
Chevy 8.4 did you where get it info? I know hearing over (gm8.0)
@@jckdnls9292 Rumor is that if that engine even exists its only going to be used in medium duty applications, which also means it'll be de-tuned for longevity and will probably make less power than Fords 7.3L.
“In the works” seems to be the only reply from the GM crowd nowadays. With their ancient interiors, it’s amazing Chev sells any trucks...
@@mattmcneely9174 I want a truck not a Fuuurd ecu-JUNK tin can
The heavyweight haulers need low pressure (5 psi) turbocharged gasoline engine.
Plus EXHAUST BRAKE.
PLUS AIR BAG REAR SUSPENSION.
I think I just like watching you guys stress the heck out of machines!!! Yew!
The more of this channel I watch the more open minded I get about best what is the best truck. I was a brand loyalist, but I can now see myself considering trucks of other brands from my historical favorite.
4:10 is what you need for better towing ability. 3.73 is what the boss drives around in checking on his minions.
I was just thinking contractors truck
Nah. 3.73 gets it done. 4.10 is miserable on the highway and interstate, especially if you're in a diesel. I hated my 4.10. Sure, it got my 17,000lb horse trailer moving, but maintaining 70mph on the highway means you're sucking fuel and making a lot of heat and constant boost pressure.
@@phtevenmolz5030 heat is tied to power output if you are in boost it is beacuse teh power is needed.
@@KoolCordell no it's not. It's called drive pressure and it's dictated by gearing. 4.10 and above is shit on any diesel 3/4 or 1 ton that sees much highway traveling. The lower gearing causes high RPMs, which causes high exhaust pressure in the hot side of your turbo, and very often is the cause of head gasket failures (along with front cover cavitation on some trucks).
I got a silverado 2500 hd with 4.10 it is slower but i get better gas mileage then my friend's sierre 2500hd 3.73's
I'm waiting for the new 7.3 gas from Ford to go head 2 head against the Chevy gas option. 🇺🇸
I'd like to see that too. The only two DNF's they had were Fords. Interested to see if the new engine is any good. I prefer gas engines. I don't tow all the time just occasionally.
I'm not a Ford guy but I'm very interested in that new 7.3. Finally Ford went back to a pushrod engine for a HD application. OHC engines have their place but they're not for everything. I am disappointed that GM didn't go larger for their HD gas option.
@@daneh8434
Gm trucks have always been about the total package instead of numbers. They've always been competitive and functional despite not having the biggest numbers. I agree with Ford going back to a simpler larger engine. That's how HD engines should be.
With the 7.3 being paired to the 10-speed, I don’t think it’ll be a contest against this 6.6. I understand GM’s reasoning for keeping the 6, but it showed in this video as being the weak link in ensuring the vehicle was always utilizing the engines power and torque.
@@ALMX5DP
The number of gears aren't as important as the ratio of gears and the transmission tunning. The gm 6 speed has always been a good tranny. If the ratios are matched to the engine it should be fine. Something seemed off with this truck. It seemed sluggish to shift like they didn't have it tow/haul mode or something. Also gm changed the rear gear ratio witch doesn't help. It used to be 4.10. I am curious to see how the new Ford does.
Andre 2nd to none my friend and adding Mr Truck makes a great combination! Gauntlet action baby!
Good review guys. All Big 3 Mfrs. have good things going for them. Use to have Ram 1500 Bighorn and was completely reliable. Had to say goodbye because suspension was too soft even after upgrading coils and not enough truck with wind gusts and all with our 31 ft. 7000 lbs. Toy hauler and 1060 lbs. tongue weight. With 1500 miles on our new 6.6L gas version Silverado, Unloaded I’ve achieved 16.7 mpg twice now on trips of about 450 miles and A/C on. I have an LT, 17” tires, Z71 Double Can 4x4 for those interested. I’m civil with my pedal. Truck technology is just right for me; don’t need huge screens (8” is good enough).
Do you keep a list of all your tests of same year or category?
That would be awesome to see/compare all in one view.
After soooo many great tests and also different trucks...is there a 'master list' or overall chart we can see how everything compares?
Maybe a list of each model and their stats across the line?
I'm not sure if you already provide us a link or update after each group of tests, but I can't find or don't know where to search your chart on a link?
Would love to see an episode where you went manual and kept the engine in the power band to maintain speed. That’s the only weakness of the vehicle test y’all do.
Easily the best truck channel on TH-cam
Love your channel. After watching this it just made me wonder about an old versus new max payload challenge. Like an old Chevy diesel vs this new one. Regardless great video thank you guys for the hard work!
Pretty sure I would keep the transmission in manual for grades like this and go for around 4000 max rpm.
Ok
@@Icutmetal yes
@@marylandsportsman4114 Sure
@@Icutmetal ok
One would hope the GM engineers would have set up the TCU to pick the correct gear. Obviously GM did not.
That 6 speed trans is killing the performance of this truck.
Yeah, I think we will see the 10 and 8 speeds in the HD line up as standard in the future. Like come on, you buy an HD to tow and haul.
Oh bs. It was screaming up the hill at high rpm. Aka max hp. Nothing extra gears would have done. No power is no power!
The gm 10spd has 3 over drives . Good for empty highway driving but useless for towing. So a 10 spd is only a 6 or 6sp when towing
@Andy Hass If you notice, anytime the engine was over 4,500 RPM it was able to accelerate (not just maintain speed) till it would shift into the next gear (mainly 2nd to 3rd). When it hit 3rd gear it was at 3,600 rpm which is not enough power to hold speed and then it would slow down till it down shifted. Having more gears allows the engine to have more places where it can hit 5,000 RPM and over. The 10-speed would have a gear ratio in between 2nd and 3rd on the 6-speed and allow the truck to rev higher in this gear while going the same speed like over 4,000 rpm at 60 mph not 3,600 rpm in the 6-speed. With a 16,000 lb trailer it’s not just about power, it’s about at what speed (MPH) this power occurs. Exact same reason that a lot of semis have 18 gears. Also, a 10-speed will have a similar top gear ratio as a 6-speed, the 10 does have a wider spread (meaning more lower gears). The 10 speed has 7 gears under overdrive, the 6-speed only has 4.
@@kirbygoodwin5760 agreed. Would be interesting to see.
Its not the transmission its the tune. It was upshifting when it had no business to and waiting way too long to downshift again. Hopefully they come out with a software update soon to address that. If they would have put the truck in manual mode and selected an appropriate gear I bet they could shave 1:30 off that time.
The video quality is outstanding on this one. Don't know if you changed camera equipment or what, but looking good.
Love the videos!
Please when you guys get your hands on the new 2020 Ford 7.3 V8Zilla 10 speed can you guys take it up the Ike Gauntlet I really wanna see that thing work
They will
We're all waiting with bated breath for that.
They just purchased one
Towing 3-5 times a week and I climb 3 thousand feet one way, I’d absolutely hate hearing that engine rev that high the whole trip, and my mileage would be garbage. I’ll stick to diesel.
i see burnt up transmissions and engines in gms future
Haha agreed
@@LedzeppelinDogsGuns nah nobody tows with these, half the new trucks dont have a hitch in the receiver
Yep. Jeremy really is the right customer for a diesel. If you two every day, diesel is for you. I haven't seen a heavy duty gas engine yet that can pull a load up a hill without assaulting the senses. Ford's EcoBoost does a great job in the F150. It can pull the Ike at 3500 rpm and not sound like it's screaming for mercy. Somebody needs to make a turbo gasoline engine for heavy duty applications. Naturally aspirated can't do the job at high altitudes.
You and me both... a high reving gasserr can't be that durable for much heavy towing anyway.... don't quite get what the factory engineers are thinking....
The mountains always separate the weak and the strong. Excellent test.
It would be interesting to see the difference in engine and transmission temps between the gas and diesel trucks on a long grade. Especially at full throttle. I have been up and down Monarch Pass on US50 pulling a fifth wheel and ATV trailer behind several times. (5.9 12 & 24 valve & 6.7 PS)
I would suggest having different benchmarks for Gas and Diesel. Two different animals with different pros and cons. I would also love to see how this thing tows at lower elevations. I live in Texas. I think the performance would be way better down here at 1,00o ft elevation but I would like to know just how much.
Install a 410 and call it a day. They purposefully left it at 373. The old 6.0 with 410 is par with this 373 setup
Hell no. The old 6.0 was not capable of towing this much. Let’s. It exaggerate here
Can't wait for a supercharger kit to come out for these
Glad to see Nathan again!
I don’t agree with changes in the benchmark times and mileage. If manufacturers are going to raise the tow ratings to heavier loads by increasing torque and horsepower as well as frame and suspension mods, the times should stay the same.
Thanks for the awesome review! I know you guys at TFL leave the trucks in drive with tow haul on, but for this truck especially it would be awesome if you ran the hill again with the truck in manual in 2nd gear. Just to see how much better the time would be, it would be at redline the whole time but at least it wouldn’t ping pong.
Yup. GM shift programing on these just isn't made to run them WOT unless you're in manual. They don't hold gears for max power, it's really setup for comfort/economy evidently.
@@EngineeringGoneWrong naw its to protect the trans. even unloaded it doesn't want to 3-2 and tries to death pull from 2500RPM and pings
Need to do a new towing review side by side of all the new HD gassers! Rams new 8speed on the 6.4. And Chevy and fords new hd gas motors
I bought a 2008 Tahoe, had the cylinder deactivation turned off, removed the cats, had the SUV tuned, installed 22 inch tires and an Eaton Tru Trac Rear End with 4;56 gears..My mileage only went down a few 10ths of a MPG from the 3;42's ..My first pull was another Tahoe on a 2300 pound trailer up two 6 to 7% grades that were around 2 miles long. With around 8000 pounds additional weight it did very well up those grades with just a 4L60 4 speed and a 5.3 with 310,000 miles...😁
really the best truck series on the web!
I'm curious what the transmission temp was when they reached the top of the Ike.
I'm sure it was normal. If it was high they would have said something.
I'm sure it was overheating. That's why they didn't show it. What was the temperature outside I wonder. That would make a big difference.
@@jameschance5507 no. They definitely would have said something.
Colin The 6L90e is a bulletproof transmission. With the high engine rpm and the power reduced by a third due to low air density I’m sure the transmission stayed cool.
@@jameschance5507 So you know the temp would make a difference but you also know that it was overheating. Do you know the difference between fact and opinion?
Good review per usual. I am curious to know what your tounge weight was with this set up. Also, I think a good video would be towing the same trailer you did a couple years back with the 6.0l to see how much better the new truck is....
Roughly 3,200 pounds.
Just for a gas comparison I have the Ford 6.8 V10 ( soon to be replaced by the Godzilla) in my motorhome and have gone up and down this same hill with it. On the way up it’s screaming pretty good and I’m always wishing I had a turbo or something! On the way down, the tow/haul on the Torqshift trans does a great job holding it back. I have to tap the brakes once in awhile but you always feel confident with the situation.
Yeah I think the 3.73 is the culprit here. I think you guys tested a 6.0 with a 4.10 before and had a better result. 4.10 would have helped with the down hill potion as well.
Could you do this run with something more akin to what your landscaping or excavation company would run? Reg cab preferred and towing a bobcat or mowers? Like around 10k
A simplel durable truck without things that fail. It looks great and is priced competitive but still high for me. To be honest, I find myself saying my next truck moving from half to three qtr, i'm going to get a work truck - simple, affordable, and gets the job done. They kind of nailed my thoughts with this truck. Only one in my way now is CA DMV yearly charges on big trucks.
Good review, one thought if you are planning or needed to pull that heavy of a load more then a couple times I don't think anyone would good for a truck that is right at the max capability of the truck.
OK, love the show, I live in CO and tow as well. Your show is getting bigger, so now time to get better. How about another run with you manually shifting? How about 10 miles in some hills and not the steepest tallest mountain most people will hardly drive (but I do like that too!). How about some transmission temps? How about a REAL life test meaning, many of us tow way less, how about about pulling like 9k (simulating a TT) and manually shifting like we do in real life? Lots more info could be put in these videos. Keep up the good work!
Well said.
I love these videos but for each truck can you please tell us oil temp trans temp and coolant temp in the future that would be nice
And a manual shifting run and a real world payload run not maxed out
The Off The Ranch music gets me every time.
I'm just waiting on the reg cab long box to be released . I cant find any info on when or if they will be available
What did you expect from a naturally aspirated engine at an elevation of 11,000 feet with thin air? With a few slight modifications she would do great. Add some air suspension to the stock suspension and that will take care of the squat issue.
All HD gassers had to run the same route...
Please test the single cab instead of all of the crew cabs I’d actually like to see what configuration is needed for maximum payload
Funny how the one guy throws his hands up and down like he's chopping wood every time he talks.
Just teasing you Andre. Nice review.
you should do an ike gauntlet with older used trucks. like say 2005-2010 2500s for the people that need to tow but cant afford a brand new truck! as a bonus you can compare new trucks to the older trucks to see how the new ones really perform
Love the new chevy 2500 gas
But I love the 6.0.
Tough and very reliable engines.
When I buy a 3/4 ton gas truck, I'll probably buy a 2015-2019 Chevy 2500 with the 6.0. Not sure how I feel about this new 6.6 gas motor
Not bad for a gasser 3/4 going up a serious grade with crazy elevation
It did the job like GM said it could based off ratings. However going that slow isn't safe. So I'd say it's a fail. It's need more gears and a 4.10 rear end for something like this.
@@MrComputerCoder lol, It's perfectly safe to go that slow. Here in Montana there's a pass that if you're over like 10 tons GVWR you can't go over like 35 mph,especially down hill. Just put your flashers on and sit behind a semi and you'll be just fine.
dedalliance1 kids these days don’t understand patience, especially when towing.
You will have to walk around one of these trucks to realize how big they actually are. I bought a similar 2020 GMC Sierra and the height of the front of my hood is almost 5' off the ground. I have to use a folding stool in order to check the oil. The oil change tech uses a stool to reach the engine compartment. You need the step built into the rear bumper to climb into the bed.
Thanks guys. Great vedio. I to live in Colorado. Little disappointed in the time.
Still waiting for the Eco diesel MPG redo.
Damn the Ike Gauntlet is a tough test. Not a motor I would go for if I was towing these weights, but as you say the Diesel is 10k more and that's too much of a price increase over the Gas.. Great work guys.
I love the sound of a gas under load.
Poor 6.6 was begging for help getting started up the hill. But good solid review on tfls part.
5 plus grand goin up hill the whole time I bet that manifolds were glowing orange
This was a test as extreme as the grill is tall. Seriously, who actually tows 16,000 with a gas truck? Nobody is going to ask a gas truck to do that regularly, they will buy the diesel. Not only is that a lot to tow with a gasser but that hill and altitude as well. Stupid grill and hood height but i think the 6.6 6 speed is a great setup for the right buyer. The person who tows often at under 10k lb, or the person who tows up to 16k once a year will be well served by this truck and an extra $10k in their pockets. Only reason to pass on this is if the 7.3 Ford turns out to be great.
You answered your own question; the guy that doesn’t tow extremely heavy on a regular basis.
The point is to test the trucks at their maximum ratings to see if they can actually do it and do it well.
Otherwise who's keeping the buyers in the know? You're going believe the manufacturer who's trying to sell the truck? You shouldn't. These are good test and represent a very very high level of stress. If you do less you'll do much better.
This engine and tranny has a place but it's certainly not this sure, but again people should still be able to know the limits of their $50,000 truck.
Yes, I agree. For the right buyer this truck could be perfect. And like you I am looking forward to the new Ford 7.3 test.
I'm too lazy to make calculations but I think with it's lower MPG it's 10k advantage in value is not that big of a deal.
@@ldmtag The MPG will be less than a diesel, but add up all the money spent on frequently more expensive diesel fuel, DEF fluid, oil changes, and if anything breaks in that highly complex modern diesel you are out major cash. You have to be towing quite a lot to really save anything.
You guys got to get over this squatting thing
Could you possibly try a run with cruise control on? I noticed with my silverado, it will keep me at that set speed while towing up and down hills. Im curious to see what the HD trucks will do
It usually takes me a while to warm up to a new trucks styling... this ones's going to take a long time.
Has it started to grow on you yet?
@@DC-ct8tv Nope 🤨
@@wesleywilkinson4355 😂 same here. I like the GMC tho
I never thought I’d say it (even though my current ride is a 14’ ram 2500 6.4 hemi-really really liking the truck) always been a gm guy. But out of the three I think the new Ram 3/4 has come the furthest. The 8 speed and 6.4 hemi is perfectly matched. If I could have swung it I’d have a new one for the tranny and engine combo alone. The pickup of the 8 speed and 6.4 gasser reminded me of a once 6.0 diesel I had for a short while. You can’t go wrong though with any of the new trucks today. They’re all pretty solid in their own right. When’s Yota coming out with a 3/4 ton that’s the question?
Yess on YOTA! if they did it would destroy the big 3
Hello Andre’ and Mr. Truck! I really like the nice clean look from the side and rear, front end? Looks best with the Custom Package with the monochromatic colors. The chrome front end on the LT an up looks a little busy to me. I’ve been a Chevy man for years, never owned a new Ford. But if I was in the market for a HD/SD, I would have a very hard time to pick one from the big three! More than likely a Ford F-250, 4x4, 7.3 V8. With the Tremor Package.
Love the channel, best tow channel there is however, its time to up your game guys. That test was fine, but lets see a SECOND test where you manually shift the gears, you know, real world application. While your at it, test a REAL world load as well, maybe 10-11k pounds. I dont think it would be that difficult to add these changes and give us a better over all picture. A transmission and engine temp would be nice as well! Keep up the good work and expand your testing please!
My Chevy 2500Hd has a Gas V8 we own a Hotshot Delivery my Dads Ford F350 work truck and my chevy work truck Tows just as good if you Ask me
I'd like to see the 8.1 come back as an 8.3 or 8.9. They should team up with raylar fo build it and they'd have the ultimate heavy duty gas
Lol love the 8.1L comments, yes id love to experience 11mpg empty again going down hill.. 8.9L...... 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@panthermartin7784 it's not a grocery getter. It's a work horse torque monster. What's funny is people buying diesels that don't own a trailer, but to each their own.
@@coatesfactor think about the cost of fuel these days and a small company towing with your 8.9L.. Get a grip bud..
@@panthermartin7784 the Technology is there. Does a big engine at low rpm doing the work a small engine has to have high rpm to do, which burns more. My 6.0 got worse mpg than my 8.1. I've got real life numbers and a grip bud hahaha. Why do you think ford has came out with a big block 7.3?
Panther Martin77 you mean like me(small company). I’m planning to go back to a gasser I the next couple years, cuz all the EPA emissions shit is killing my productivity and checkbook now that the warranty is bye bye. Have some time to decide between the new 6.6, 7.3, or whatever Ram is selling in 2021-2022.
Yes vinny the 8 speed is a game changer for ram 2500 has I’ve got the 5.9 diesel in the old body style an with 4.10 gear in the new 2500 has with 8 speed pulls like a champ and the transmission is not busy it’s always in the right gear
I saw Ford's 7.3 Gas V8 at the Texas Truck show. Want to see how that beast runs.