Hey Paul, I’m a massive fan and have been watching car expert for years. Just I guess a bit of feedback on the video and the this particular Triton. I work for Mitsubishi currently as the main brand I sell and I think you have a lot of great points in the video, however there’s a couple parts that weren’t in line with my own hands on experience with the new Triton. The parts where you got stuck in the various 4wd modes shouldn’t be happening and aren’t reflective of dealer drive day Mitsubishi organised at the RACQ driver training centre in Queensland. In the course they put us through, it performed flawlessly on the stock tyres and on stock tyre pressures. The particular 4wd track they put us on was comparitable to the course you’ve just run with uneven ruts, sharp climbs, severely off camber angles, mud, sand, water crossing and it didn’t get stuck whatsoever. The car also gained traction straight away and pulled without hesitation is every situation. One thing I noticed, the auto hold wasn’t working at all for you. I actually think the particular car you were supplied has issues because the new MV genuinely is more capable than the old MR and the MR is absolutely the mountain goat you described it as. I myself really like the suspension tuning however my on road experience has been quite urban. I agree wholeheartedly with the driver fatigue monitor and the stop start and I’m anticipating that Mitsubishi will patch these in due time. I’m really keen to see your towing test on these as I think this where it will really shine, particularly with the all new chassis. Overall, a lot of people are complaining about the the pricing in these comment section but the MV is still several grand cheaper than the comparative models in both the Hilux and the Ranger whilst actually being a much better spec’s car than the hilux (outside of the 30nm difference) and a much more reliable option than the Ranger. I’m happy they’ve had a good crack at moving away from being the cheap option to now offer a more premium dual cab at what is still a good value for money point. Just a strong point to mention with the range, the GLX is the most well equipped entry model dual cab on the market and I’d be keen to see a comparison video on all the entry dual cabs on the market as I think it’d be good for the tradies and business customers that buy these. All in all mate, keep up the great work and always keen to watch your videos.
I have spoken to a few people now since launch that were impressed with the effortlessness of it off-road. A couple of them were at the same event as you. Now they weren't trying to sell me on it, because they didn't need to, they were just giving me their honest feedback, thoughts and comparisons. If Mitsubishi see this review, I do think they would be asking WTF? Damage has already been done though, with the reach Carexpert has, this video has done enough to convince people this Triton is a big step backwards going by some of the negative comments.....
Yeah, one thing I noticed is that this is one of the only videos I've seen on the Triton where it didn't do really well on the off-road tests, whereas in all the other reviews that I've seen which include off-road tests, the Triton performed flawlessly, one video even comparing the older model to this newer model and showing how this new model is genuinely a big improvement even in it's off-road capability.
@@Layno729 Nowhere does PvtRookie suggest "user error" as the cause of the Tritons poor off road performance? he says "the auto hold wasn’t working at all for you. I actually think the particular car you were supplied has issues" besides if Nissan had anything to do with the design of this Mitsubishi you can guarantee that they will have gone backwards... build 'em cheap & nasty is the Nissan way
Some things I agree with, others I don't. I've seen plenty of other reviews or videos with the MV Triton off-road performing without issue. So one has to ask, why the struggle here? User error? Trying to switch to 4H while standing still results in exactly what happened in this review - you need to be in Neutral, not Drive! This is standard when switching to 4H with the Super Select II, you actually either need to be moving with foot off the throttle and it'll engage within seconds or stationary and in Neutral, same going from 2H to 4HLC. Going to 4HLC from 4H at a standstill will switchover in seconds just fine I've found. I tried switching to 4H without moving in my GSR and in the Mrs Pajero Sport this morning, does the same thing as his video. And how did we go from doing an initial review throwing it around sandy hills like it was nothing, to oh it's struggling on our off-road course? Something isn't right there! There's more to pick apart from this video, but I'd be typing for ages. I'm certainly not a Triton fanatic, but this review just makes the Triton look incredibly incompetent off-road or a shit ute all round, has been set up to fail I feel.
Owned a MN and MR triton. The MN had mechanical levers. The MR the same electronic actuation as the MV. 2H to 4H on the move or stationary was always flawless. 4HLC was typically delayed, in N and stationary. 4LLC more often than no needed the change to be cancelled and the vehicle to be moved backward or forward with multiple attempts (or a long wait). Compared to a Hilux or the Ranger it was a slow system to shift into low range.
Bro Triton is a shit ute. Don't need a long paragraph to justify it. It's the newest, oldest ute and needs a facelfit already. How's the Navara Gauge cluster 😅
@@toxikbro I wouldn't say it is a shit ute. MV was nice to drive and in many ways (but of course not all) the MR was superior to the D-Max, Hilux and Nav of the same generation. The MV is a nice ute. No ute is flawless.
@@toxikbro Honestly "BRO", don't need to justify shit. Couldn't care less if people don't like my choices in things! My comment is based on my observations on this video, and first hand/real world use. I mean you seem like the insecure type, the kind that has to sit there and justify to everyone why something is shit or something is better than the rest, y'know to inflate the ego a bit. No matter what car I've owned, I've come across many of you "Bro's" that need to say that a car is shit, without a solid effing adult discussion. Is there a point to it? But go ahead, keep doing your thing. As for the cluster - works fine thanks!👌
I agree with your observation mate. Another thing is the hill start assist. The ute has it, so why didn't it engage and why did he say it doesn't have that function. I've never owned a Triton so I'm not some sort of fan or whatever. This video just looks like a set up.
Very fair review Paul, been following you and the team since the early CarAdvice days. Just purchased this as my first new car and having had it for two weeks, must say I am very happy except for two things, stop start and driver monitoring. Both get turned off as soon as I get into the car. Why a Triton for me? Never owned a ute but I had one for a few months for one of my previous jobs (2000 Hilux non turbo diesel, loved it) and with a small bub and my role at work it’s what I wanted/needed. Liked the look when it was released mid last year, so I shortlisted a Triton, a Dmax, a BT50 and a wildcard, a Cannon. The Navara was too old and small in the back, the Musso was great but didn’t have adaptive cruise and who knows about Ssangyong solvency, the Hilux is dear for a 10 year old ute and then the Ranger; honestly really wanted one, but the reliability stories and the price ruled it out. Test drove the Mitsubishi first and loved it (feels like a modern Pajero) and the softness was a positive as I will do a lot around town. The steering was the thing that sold me with the modern interior, and the engine was smooth and reasonably quiet with plenty of punch. Dmax had the best seats but was a generation behind and was what I’d buy if I needed a workhorse not a ute with a family. The biggest surprise was the Cannon, which had me stumped. It was 85-90% of the car for 65% of the price. It drove well enough, interior was nice, and was well built. The thing that got me was the notchy steering and the slightly underpowered engine. I picked a GSR due to the fact that once depreciation was considered the triton wasn’t that much dearer (although I was lucky I got a very generous fleet discount). Of the 4cyl utes this is the pick, it’s by no way perfect but I think most Aussies will appreciate the softer ride (much better when towing and/or 100kgs in the back), the steering and a 10 year warranty. But I will be buying the kit to disable the stop start system when it’s released, and any kit to at least turn the sound off for the driver monitoring system!
The new triton is much better , this review is totally botched , the new mv triton drive modes are specifically tuned for offroad, Not choosing mud mode in 4hlc will let you end up like what happend to paul. He is not honest with his faults in the review , down to even getting stuck in the wrong mode becaue of user error and not being able to engage the hand brake properly
@@lukey139 new diesel vehicles going foward will have to use adblue in the Australian market. The new prado has to also use adblue to reduce emissions , The driver monitoring system is for ancap new 5 star rating standard. The hilux and ranger are based on the old expired saftey standard , Mitsubishi put in adblue and driver monitoring becaue of new saftey regulations and demand from the auatralian government for reduced emissions
I got the 2024 GLS and if they didn’t have the auto stop start and the driver monitoring system I’d be 100% happy, can’t even call those tyres AT, wouldn’t even think of taking mine off road until I get proper tyres.
yes, labelling those tyres AT is ludicrous and the problem is that people who have little knowledge of tyres will believe it. I could call myself a penguin but the fact is that I'd still be a man. Those tyres looked like they should be labelled HT at best. What a joke.
New owners seem to like the extended wheel base and the twin turbo. I like the fact that all you need is some agressive all terrains and you can go see a fair chunk of this amazing country with only a 303 a swag and a billy. So lucky to have such onroad /off road comfort. Travel lite and window down.
For the test traction control at 27:35, you should use the 4HLc = 4H on Hilux or Ranger for the fair comparison. 4H of super select 4WD II does not lock the center diff.
I’ve just come back from a track where the running board rubbed on the side of the ruts, less than five minutes ago. Mine is a 2023 Ranger Wildtrak twin turbo. Yesterday it had a 150 mile run at 80mph down a motorway and the day before it towed nearly four tons of cattle up and down some steep minor roads and some Welsh twisty A roads. The day before it was carrying a full 1000 litre IBC of water from one place to another. I also have a 2014 2.2 auto Ranger Limited that works equally hard daily and the main issue with that one is that it regularly breaks rear leaf springs. It has had five replacements over the years, both genuine and pattern.
The Tritons have a great reputation for reliability too. Which is another factor to consider when purchasing a vehicle of this type. Unlike the troublesome Ford Rager for instance
Apart from the generational engine failures the Mitsubishi is a fine truck, if you like its driving position and suspension comfort. And they have only now uprated them to tow 3.5 tons. The previous generations only allowed this when towing three axle trailers for some reason, certainly in Europe. No longer an issue in Europe of course, because they [and Nissan] have ceased to sell in that vast market.
Well if you are lucky I guess. Previous gen 4x2 model put some headache to my father, coz traction control are having with error after a year of highway driving 60K run. As per recommendation, change module only, which is cost you a little extra money compare to other brand.
1. Putting a piece of tape over the driver distraction monitor doesn't fix it. It just goes nuts binging and bonging with a message saying "i cAnT sEe YoUr FaCe". 2. The trick with super select is to change mode, give it some gas then let go of the throttle, it'll engage much faster, and that's what my Pajero Sport manual tells you to do.
Finally a tough looking Triton, great review... realistic for most of us. I like that it has drum brakes on the rear ... drum brakes offer significantly better braking when under load so i can understand why they use drums... Hilux also use drums for this reason.
@31:59 the tires are wet and muddy i cant see how you expect it to get traction to go up. in the other ute tests the wheels were dry and also there was stone on the hill for grip. on the hill test test the ranger raptor did not make it up the first time , then you locked the front and rear diff. you also did not drive the raptor in mud then attempted to do the hill test. is this a new criteria because it looks suspicious to me. its clear the triton has no issues climbing the hill when the tires are dry
I don't understand why manufacturers make the dash cupholders available only on higher trims. Even the Ranger does this! How much do they save by removing the dash cupholders for the lower trims? Lol.
It’s not a cost thing they have to make an effort to give the top of the range more perks to make the higher price more justifiable, it’s a bit of a joke
Tactic used to make more money. Ridiculous practice that needs to stop. I've never thought to myself "Hrm this has extra cupholders, I'll spend an extra $10k for that"
@@richardtimms6645 but he drove it how he would the MR Triton! There are multiple clips of Paul driving the MR Triton and him being impressed. This MV doesn't seem impressive.
Agreed. Besides the interior, the entire vehicle is a step backward. That's what you get when you affiliate with manufacturers who have different values to your own. A sad situation for Mitsubishi...
@@masterchief4519 there were 2 hill test done here, one where the triton had to climb the hill with the tires dry, this is the standard test done and the triton made it with no problems , then there was a test where he got the tires wet , muddy then attempted to climb the hill, this was not done in the test with the old triton or other utes. in the mega ute test the ranger raptor failed the hill test the first time, after this he proceeded to lock the diff, and keep trying. non of the other utes were tested on the hill climb with wet and muddy tires. i am dissappointed with paul because this looks as if it was done intentionally to make the triton look bad.
@@christopherchander2754 Which manufacturer have they collaborated with? I am unaware of any affiliation between this pickup and any other. Mazda have gone with Isuzu and VW with Ford but Mitsubishi and….?
@@markymark8472 though I largely agree with you, comparing used vs new, not quite the right comparison. But do agree they haven't correctly priced the new Triton...
After seeing this review amongst other Ranger have knocked it out of the park with there latest utes. From interior m, exterior to engine and handling.
I think this new Triton will make for an interesting "Old vs New" comparison. Surprisingly in many ways, the old Triton outperforms the new one especially off road. I also recon that the older lighter Triton is just as quick in a straight line.
Hi Paul. Great review as usual. But I felt it a bit .... rushed? I bought a GSR two weeks ago (New Gen) and love it. With a few "dang, I wish they would fix that" thrown in. I have not experienced the problems you experienced changing modes. But then again, I followed the Mitsubishi guidelines and put it in Neutral first ;-) I also remember your clear favourite, the Raptor, failing on the hill climb. And needed front, middle and rear diffs locked. And the Raptor has FAR more aggressive tyres. I think doing "offroad" tests of any four wheel drive should be on matching rubber. It's the first thing any person heading offroad will upgrade on their car. So, when you get to the 2024 Ute test, please put the same tyres on each vehicle. Rubber off the showroom floor is practically useless offroad. As mentioned everywhere the driver distraction and engine cut off are both significant annoyances. Mitsubishi would be better served by remembering the setting the driver selected between drives. Having to turn them off EVERY drive is just frustrating. Hopefully they might fix this in a software update. The biggest issue I have found is in towing. Yes. Odd. I have a caravan weighing in at 2.7T loaded. On undulating roads, it felt bloody unsafe when I first towed. Then I learned not to fight it and let it do it's thing. Much better. Hitting undulations on the road at 100k's is a new pair of undies experience the first time around until you master the "don't fight it" technique. But, the suspension is way to soft to tow anything over 2.5T IMHO. Your upcoming tow test will no doubt be an eye opener for everyone. I think as the aftermarket suppliers ramp up, a new suspension setup is on the cards. The driver assists are awesome. But again, you need to get used to them, as there are a few interesting behaviours, particularly if you haven't had a "modern" car before. The adaptive cruise control. It's great considering I am coming from an NX Pajero which has cruise, but is not adaptive. Two times though, I had to take a deep breath. The first I was in peak hour traffic, doing about 80kph on the freeway with the cruise set at 100. Sitting nicely behind a vehicle in front, I was cool McCool with my adaptive cruise control on, speeding up and slowing down with the traffic. Then a motor bike went past me on the passenger side splitting lanes between the cars. I guess he was doing 90-100kph. In an instant the Triton sped up very quickly to catch the bike. I'm not sure if it was me jumping on the brakes, or if it came to it's senses, but it slowed down before I plowed into the car in front. Certainly woke me up. The next was when following a car in the right lane at 70 on a dual carriage way with a median strip in the middle. Car in front moved right into a turning lane and I was going straight ahead. However, the car slowed down significantly (as it was turning right), and the Triton jumped on the brakes and slowed down to to match it (about 30 kph) in the right lane with cars behind me. And I now had a clear lane ahead slowing to a stop. I stomped on the accelerator. Another pair of undies to wash. It does say in the drivers manual cruise control only to be used on the freeway. But really? Having said all that, do I like it? Damn right I do. Do I regret bying it? Not at all. Would I buy something else next time? Nope. Well. Probably not. To me it came down to what I got for my hard earned. It was quite a bit less than a similar spec 4cyl Ranger, and WAAAY less than a V6 Ranger. And I refuse to pay the Toyota tax. With the towing observations above, it is still a great towing vehicle. Hills that the Pajero struggled with are no problems for the Triton. It's got all the power I need and there was not a single hill that made it drop below the speed limit. And it's quite a bit more economical than the Pajero. Probably very similar to the Ranger 4cly I imagine. And for me, it is insanely comfortable around town and for long drives.
Unfortunately they need to have them switch back on after each drive or they don't get the 5 star safety rating (or a 10th or two of a litre per 100 less around town, for the stop start). Mitsubishi knows that, and, unless something big changes at ANCAP, they'll tell you to kick rocks, not unlike what Hyundai and Kia did earlier this year. You'll have to get an OBDII dongle to get them to turn off and stay off.
Just took one for a spin today it was very comfortable on bumpy roads compared to my 21 glsb by a long way yes previous generation is better off road but like me I’m a tradie I’m on the road 95% of the time so this new generation has got my attention now my 21 glsb can go to a off roadie person lol
Hi Paul, really good long awaited review. They need to either shave off $5000-7000 from the price or take it back and fix the $70k unacceptable poor tunes. I get what Mitsubishi is going for here, but the price defeats that philosophy.
They put in TRI beam LED headlights and then go "nah stuff it let's just chuck in an incandescent indicator".....same story at the rear. I don't get this way of thinking.
@@wax333 I've got 10 year old cars all with original LED's. My mate had an LED headlight malfunction and it was replaced under warranty. They are not consumables like regular bulbs are.
@@Moon222hence why Chinese cars come with leds standard. Are you suggesting a Chinese corporation supply these inferior assemblies to Mitsubishi just to make Chinese built utes look superior, I suspect you could be right. 😂 Go GWM, your dealership are about to be overrun by disgruntled Triton buyers.
I agree. Although Mitsubishi have had this feature for decades. My old 1993 Pajero could do the same. Currently have a 2016 Triton, I can't remember the last time I drove it in 2wd.
Purchased a new gls mr triton in 2020, payed $48,900 with quite a few extras included in the price. I can honestly say i fail to see where the justification for another 10k is warranted considering the mr still does a few things better. Mitsubishi better be careful, as at this rate they may price themselves out of the market if there not careful.
Can I please suggest another test? Try removing the spare wheel on these utes and putting them back again. I remove these daily and some of them are so difficult to do. Would be great for you to experience how each of these setup work and assess them accordingly.
Another great review, except i think you'll be doing it again. There's something wrong with that vehicle. Pretty sure I've seen other videos showing the traction control working at low speed.
I would love a 4x4 that goes the opposite route to most car manufacturers these days and by that I mean they give us a car with a good engine, disc brakes all around, front and rear lockers standard and absolutely no additional creature comforts like aeb, driver distraction monitoring etc, to cut down on drive away price so that it could be around the $30,000-$35,000 price range. I currently have a 2014 PC challenger and I've not once complained that I don't have aeb, but I would love a front locker. Even if car manufacturers when selling 4x4's opted for their higher tier models to have things like uhf, suspension upgrades, lift kits, instead of these driver assists. I know it's unlikely but I'd absolutely buy a new car if it was bare bones and had a price to show it. So many cars have unnecessary features which add unnecessary cost
The tyres were slick with clay on the second climb. Big difference by the look of it versus the dry hill. There are other reviews of dry climbing where it has been great offroad. Paul notes the state of the hill and muddy tyres on the climb here. Cheers
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Triton's traction control has went from one of the best in class to the worst in its segment. That traction control response reminds me of the D-Max/BT-50 without the rough terrain mode.
Nah Chinese is another class altogether for the peasants. This is the price of a hilux rogue minus the power and resale value, this class of buyers will look at ranger or hilux.
What I can't understand is why out of all the reviews I have watched no one goes into the new triton having adblue fitted. Is this because they dont know about it or is it something that is not an issue to anyone? I am a diesel fitter and have been working with adblue for years now on heavy road transport and mining equipment but this is the first Australian car i have seen with it. Thoughts from you guys on it would be appreciated thanks.
Yeah right, I drove it, hard and soft also drove the Dmax and Toyota, agree with some of your opinions not all but then again I am not a automotive journalist, I bought a GSR. Good review although I don’t agree with all your assessments.
Hi Paul! Just for the hill descent control speed, I believe, can be adjusted by pressing the accelerator pedal apparently. Also would @carexpert redo this review using a different triton? Seems like there was some injustice done in this review especially in the off road section. Also what did you mean when you said hill read regraded?
Just saw one today in my country in white color and I gotta say, that pictures don't do justice to the new L200. Looks way bigger and nicer than previous platform (in my opinion) and sadly I'll have to watch this review later today (almost midnight in Nic).
I recently drove one of these and to me this isn’t the upgrade I hoped it would be, feels like a cheaply built ute that’s lost its biggest advantage….the price! Shows that it doesn’t matter how much a car costs people will still Buy it, if it’s good.
Thanks Paul - I’d be definitely keeping the previous gen Triton and avoid all those annoying driver aids and stop-stat function and what seems to be a less than adequate 4WD system which is so good in the previous gen - instead spend your money on a new aluminium canopy and don’t tow a 3.5 tonne caravan.
i don't understand how adding a second turbo makes it a 'new engine' it's still the same 2.4L. idk if i am missing something but i rather if they have a V6 diesel then the same deployment engine with a second turbo
Hi Paul. I really think you need to update the testing process on these 4wds and use low range for the offset mogul. High range TC isn’t tailored for that kind of driving. Low range is. It will give the public a better idea how each systems works between cars.
Interesting review. I replaced my previous VRX with the current GLX-R model to reflect that I didn’t use the bells and whistles That it had. I use it primarily to tow our caravan, and do some off road. It is almost like you were driving a different car. I like the way it drives and have not noticed or been bothered by the issues you raise. It’s almost like you set the car up to fail. Hope it’s not just to please the Ranger groupies.
Well straight away it's been compared to a Ranger. Also there's a bit going on in this review that is concerning, for example the whole won't switch to 4H and taking forever is because it's been done wrong. If you're at a standstill, to go from 2H to 4H it needs to be in Neutral and then it changes within seconds. If changing while moving, foot of the throttle and in a straight line and under 100km/h. It's always been that way and also noted on the sticker at the bottom of the drivers door (or manual if anyone can be bothered looking in there). While yes, the driver monitor is annoying, every other gripe seems a bit blown out. 1 month of ownership of my GSR and there are zero regrets or buyer remorse or feeling of missing out because I don't have a Wildtrak (which was my first preference). Anyway there's enough off-road video's online to show that the Triton performs just fine while being put through its paces.
Thanks for the honest review. I currently have a 2016 Pajero Sport and been thinking about an update. Bit disappointed with the offroad ability though. My current Pajero Sport is fantastic offroad. I do a fair bit of towing with my car now. But find the engine size is not a 100% towing bigger loads. I would like to see how the new Triton goes towing. Cheers 🍻
If I cant disable the driver monitoring system permanently this is a non-starter for me. Like many people who live on the road I drive with one hand at 12o’clock how did they mess up the location of the unit so badly. Put it in the internal rear view mirror, it’s always in the driver eye line, can easily be swapped for LHD and RHD. While they are at it… make it switch on after 1hr of motion…
Not sure why you assumed that the centre diff lock would make any difference to the two axle twister? It would make a difference if there was a big traction difference between the front and back axles though, which wasn’t the case with your twister test. Also if all four wheels are spinning equally, as on that hill, no system invented will create extra traction. You will need skyhooks and warp drive.
How is the adaptive cruise and lane keep assist? In your videos, you always make seperate section for that. This is missing in this video. I am really interested in that. I am tied between Mazda50 sp, Volkswagen Amarok style 500 and gwm cannon Alpha ultra.
Undercooked, underdeveloped. What a shame. Needed another 6 months in the oven to sort those awful driver assistance systems and ride/handling, probably.
on the bright side these issues can be fixed with an update, then again would Mitsubishi even bother with anything regarding a vehicle that they already sold? lol
Nothing is wrong with the handling, the suspension in the triton is tuned for Australian road conditions by aussies. There is always a compromise when tuning a suspension, if you choose stiff shock absorbers the ride will be firm, harsh and the vehicle will corner better, if you go for less stiff shocks the ride will be soft , and more comfortable , which is what they were trying to accomplish No one is going to be driving around corners quickly with a ute, so you may as well tune for comfort, this is common sense, the soft ride also makes it better on rough roads and less harsh.
@@warcrabcyber9908 yes, I understand all that. The problem is, literally every other ute does a better job. You can go on about how this generation Triton was tuned by the aussies, but the simple fact of the matter is it is still absolutely average. Practically every motor journalism outlet has mentioned how the low speed ride quality is actually pretty jittery - so the fact the high speed body control is so atrocious really shows that the development hasnt been as extensive as theyve led us to believe. I know you dont go around corners quickly in a 4x4, but it is fairly obvious that theyve not done an “amazing” job. Further to that, the “driver aid” niggles are inexcusable and downright annoying. You can’t possibly defend that.
@ubernoob103 every other ute does not do a better job, you are making things up as you go along, the new triton has improved ride comfort over the previous model , every motor journalist? Lies , you should stop generalizing to try and make your point look valid. If you looking for ride comfort , a dmax and hilux is not going to do any better , these are pickups, they are not meant to be hallmarks for ride comfort, if you want ride comfort , you are better off getting a car or suv. You want a pickup but expecting it to corner like a sports car and ride as comfortable as a luxary car. And still go off road and do everything perfect, Stop dreaming
Why does every car reviewer call incandescent lights halogen? Or do you do it because it makes you think it makes you sound smarter and more knowledgeable?
Those dashboard gauges and steering wheel look suspiciously similar to my 2022 Nissan Navara... Heard they were platform sharing for the new models, interested to see Nissans new version.
They will shared some parts but engine and transmission was fully developed by Mitsubishi!! The new Nissan Navara will probably have a Mitsubishi engine and transmission!
Hey Paul, Once the new Prado and GX comes into Aus. Can you test them side by side. What's the difference between the Lexus version and the Toyota version. Pls.
I was wondering if they are not largely the same vehicle -- Mitsubishi is now part of the Renault/Nissan alliance... don't think Nissan has a twin-turbo 4cyl, certainly not in Canada, where the Frontier (Navara) only comes with a 3.8L V6.
I've watched many of these Ute reviews and just wonder about the usefulness of the traction control test in 2WD on the offset mogul. Surely if the vehicle has 4WD, as a driver it would make more sense to use its full capabilities to get you through an obstacle. A moose test or something on a slippery surface would be more valuable to me as a buyer to test traction and stability control.
Highly subjective: I bought GSR recently, despite annoying driver monitoring system I'm very happy with the car. I chose between GSR model, Amarok Style 3.0L and GWM/LDV UTEs. GWM/LDV - nope, just nope Mitsubishi vs Amarok: The entertainment system and ergonomic is much better in Mitsubishi. I drive a lot and using Ford/VW new Tesla-like screen is inconvenient and sometimes dangerous. Engines: Ford/VW 2.0L - unbalanced, lots of vibrations Ford/VW 3.0 - much better, smooth Mitsu 2.4L - classic, my bros never had problem with it, it felt more perky than Ford 3.0 when you start driving. Speaking of price: Amarok Style 2 L can beat Mitsubishi, but this Ford 2.0L engine is so unbalanced, you sit in a tractor and feel ugly vibrations thus we have VW 3.0 vs Mitsu. In total, I got 10k price advantage buying GSR vs VW. This includes ~8k price difference between the cars + trade in price none of VW dealers could give me. I could include Ford Ranger in comparison, but I never considered buying FORD.
@CarExpertAus yes Paul, it does say A/T but it's clearly an A/T aimed at retaining reasonable HWY traction, low road noise and primarily gravel road grip. It's not in the category of the A/T fitted std to your Raptor, is it? Even you couldn't say they are are A/T tread pattern when compared to you BFGoodrich K02 which is what viewers expect a A/T tread pattern to look like. I used to run Perelli Scorpion A/T's on my on road car, as I knew it would be better suited for gravel and more puncture resistant, but they were totally useless on grassy inclines for grip (sorry Perelli). An experienced man like yourself can see what I'm implying, some A/T's don't have tread pattern to grip, just as these on the Triton clearly don't. KO2's would make a huge difference, yet they are still categorised as A/T but have a tread pattern you'd expect a A/T to have. Thats why there are so many comments here, "They're not A/T's" which the tread pattern clearly aren't of the std off roaders expect an A/T to have. No one purchasing after market A/T's would even consider this tread pattern.
Owned the MN and MR Tritons. Really like the Super Select system. Was really looking forward to the MV. Was a bit disappointed. Better than the MR in every way but not leagues better. Ended up buying a V6 Ranger. By the time you add the towbars/liner/brake controller/mats/lid/AT tyres the price difference wasn't as much as list price would indicate. The 6spd was disappointing, the gaps between gears (900rpm) are too big for 3t towing. The taller diff ratios (4.09:1) were a disappointment, 10% more power and torque but 5% heavier and 5% taller gears???? They extended the wheelbase but still isn't market leading then also extended the cab and tray. Overhang to towball is still 200mm longer than on a Ranger. The final straw was that driver monitoring.
No doubt the sine wave is good for testing body control but do you really think it's an indication of overtaking on a country road? Your basically saying that every dual cab ute and vehicles with soft suspension are ok for the city but not suitable for highway driving which is kinda ridiculous
Triton is just the best out there and i am purchasing some really soon..
Hey Paul, I’m a massive fan and have been watching car expert for years. Just I guess a bit of feedback on the video and the this particular Triton. I work for Mitsubishi currently as the main brand I sell and I think you have a lot of great points in the video, however there’s a couple parts that weren’t in line with my own hands on experience with the new Triton. The parts where you got stuck in the various 4wd modes shouldn’t be happening and aren’t reflective of dealer drive day Mitsubishi organised at the RACQ driver training centre in Queensland. In the course they put us through, it performed flawlessly on the stock tyres and on stock tyre pressures. The particular 4wd track they put us on was comparitable to the course you’ve just run with uneven ruts, sharp climbs, severely off camber angles, mud, sand, water crossing and it didn’t get stuck whatsoever. The car also gained traction straight away and pulled without hesitation is every situation. One thing I noticed, the auto hold wasn’t working at all for you. I actually think the particular car you were supplied has issues because the new MV genuinely is more capable than the old MR and the MR is absolutely the mountain goat you described it as.
I myself really like the suspension tuning however my on road experience has been quite urban. I agree wholeheartedly with the driver fatigue monitor and the stop start and I’m anticipating that Mitsubishi will patch these in due time.
I’m really keen to see your towing test on these as I think this where it will really shine, particularly with the all new chassis. Overall, a lot of people are complaining about the the pricing in these comment section but the MV is still several grand cheaper than the comparative models in both the Hilux and the Ranger whilst actually being a much better spec’s car than the hilux (outside of the 30nm difference) and a much more reliable option than the Ranger. I’m happy they’ve had a good crack at moving away from being the cheap option to now offer a more premium dual cab at what is still a good value for money point.
Just a strong point to mention with the range, the GLX is the most well equipped entry model dual cab on the market and I’d be keen to see a comparison video on all the entry dual cabs on the market as I think it’d be good for the tradies and business customers that buy these.
All in all mate, keep up the great work and always keen to watch your videos.
Thanks man for this. I agree with you 100%. User error can make the product look bad. Hope you can offer an invite and show him exactly how its done.
I have spoken to a few people now since launch that were impressed with the effortlessness of it off-road. A couple of them were at the same event as you. Now they weren't trying to sell me on it, because they didn't need to, they were just giving me their honest feedback, thoughts and comparisons. If Mitsubishi see this review, I do think they would be asking WTF? Damage has already been done though, with the reach Carexpert has, this video has done enough to convince people this Triton is a big step backwards going by some of the negative comments.....
Can you tell them to change that front design it's the ugliest thing I have ever seen. Last generation was a gem compared to this
Yeah, one thing I noticed is that this is one of the only videos I've seen on the Triton where it didn't do really well on the off-road tests, whereas in all the other reviews that I've seen which include off-road tests, the Triton performed flawlessly, one video even comparing the older model to this newer model and showing how this new model is genuinely a big improvement even in it's off-road capability.
@@Layno729 Nowhere does PvtRookie suggest "user error" as the cause of the Tritons poor off road performance? he says "the auto hold wasn’t working at all for you. I actually think the particular car you were supplied has issues" besides if Nissan had anything to do with the design of this Mitsubishi you can guarantee that they will have gone backwards... build 'em cheap & nasty is the Nissan way
Some things I agree with, others I don't. I've seen plenty of other reviews or videos with the MV Triton off-road performing without issue. So one has to ask, why the struggle here? User error? Trying to switch to 4H while standing still results in exactly what happened in this review - you need to be in Neutral, not Drive! This is standard when switching to 4H with the Super Select II, you actually either need to be moving with foot off the throttle and it'll engage within seconds or stationary and in Neutral, same going from 2H to 4HLC. Going to 4HLC from 4H at a standstill will switchover in seconds just fine I've found. I tried switching to 4H without moving in my GSR and in the Mrs Pajero Sport this morning, does the same thing as his video. And how did we go from doing an initial review throwing it around sandy hills like it was nothing, to oh it's struggling on our off-road course? Something isn't right there! There's more to pick apart from this video, but I'd be typing for ages. I'm certainly not a Triton fanatic, but this review just makes the Triton look incredibly incompetent off-road or a shit ute all round, has been set up to fail I feel.
Owned a MN and MR triton. The MN had mechanical levers. The MR the same electronic actuation as the MV. 2H to 4H on the move or stationary was always flawless. 4HLC was typically delayed, in N and stationary. 4LLC more often than no needed the change to be cancelled and the vehicle to be moved backward or forward with multiple attempts (or a long wait). Compared to a Hilux or the Ranger it was a slow system to shift into low range.
Bro Triton is a shit ute. Don't need a long paragraph to justify it. It's the newest, oldest ute and needs a facelfit already. How's the Navara Gauge cluster 😅
@@toxikbro I wouldn't say it is a shit ute. MV was nice to drive and in many ways (but of course not all) the MR was superior to the D-Max, Hilux and Nav of the same generation. The MV is a nice ute. No ute is flawless.
@@toxikbro Honestly "BRO", don't need to justify shit. Couldn't care less if people don't like my choices in things! My comment is based on my observations on this video, and first hand/real world use. I mean you seem like the insecure type, the kind that has to sit there and justify to everyone why something is shit or something is better than the rest, y'know to inflate the ego a bit. No matter what car I've owned, I've come across many of you "Bro's" that need to say that a car is shit, without a solid effing adult discussion. Is there a point to it? But go ahead, keep doing your thing. As for the cluster - works fine thanks!👌
I agree with your observation mate. Another thing is the hill start assist. The ute has it, so why didn't it engage and why did he say it doesn't have that function. I've never owned a Triton so I'm not some sort of fan or whatever. This video just looks like a set up.
Very fair review Paul, been following you and the team since the early CarAdvice days. Just purchased this as my first new car and having had it for two weeks, must say I am very happy except for two things, stop start and driver monitoring. Both get turned off as soon as I get into the car. Why a Triton for me? Never owned a ute but I had one for a few months for one of my previous jobs (2000 Hilux non turbo diesel, loved it) and with a small bub and my role at work it’s what I wanted/needed. Liked the look when it was released mid last year, so I shortlisted a Triton, a Dmax, a BT50 and a wildcard, a Cannon. The Navara was too old and small in the back, the Musso was great but didn’t have adaptive cruise and who knows about Ssangyong solvency, the Hilux is dear for a 10 year old ute and then the Ranger; honestly really wanted one, but the reliability stories and the price ruled it out. Test drove the Mitsubishi first and loved it (feels like a modern Pajero) and the softness was a positive as I will do a lot around town. The steering was the thing that sold me with the modern interior, and the engine was smooth and reasonably quiet with plenty of punch. Dmax had the best seats but was a generation behind and was what I’d buy if I needed a workhorse not a ute with a family. The biggest surprise was the Cannon, which had me stumped. It was 85-90% of the car for 65% of the price. It drove well enough, interior was nice, and was well built. The thing that got me was the notchy steering and the slightly underpowered engine. I picked a GSR due to the fact that once depreciation was considered the triton wasn’t that much dearer (although I was lucky I got a very generous fleet discount). Of the 4cyl utes this is the pick, it’s by no way perfect but I think most Aussies will appreciate the softer ride (much better when towing and/or 100kgs in the back), the steering and a 10 year warranty. But I will be buying the kit to disable the stop start system when it’s released, and any kit to at least turn the sound off for the driver monitoring system!
I've got a 2022 Triton, and I came away from this thinking I'm really happy with what I've got.
Me too, this one is UGLY.
@@christianadechaeney1831 same iv got 2018 MQ Triton still going strong
Yes and we don’t need to use Adblue…
The new triton is much better , this review is totally botched , the new mv triton drive modes are specifically tuned for offroad,
Not choosing mud mode in 4hlc will let you end up like what happend to paul. He is not honest with his faults in the review , down to even getting stuck in the wrong mode becaue of user error and not being able to engage the hand brake properly
@@lukey139 new diesel vehicles going foward will have to use adblue in the Australian market. The new prado has to also use adblue to reduce emissions ,
The driver monitoring system is for ancap new 5 star rating standard. The hilux and ranger are based on the old expired saftey standard , Mitsubishi put in adblue and driver monitoring becaue of new saftey regulations and demand from the auatralian government for reduced emissions
I got the 2024 GLS and if they didn’t have the auto stop start and the driver monitoring system I’d be 100% happy, can’t even call those tyres AT, wouldn’t even think of taking mine off road until I get proper tyres.
yes, labelling those tyres AT is ludicrous and the problem is that people who have little knowledge of tyres will believe it. I could call myself a penguin but the fact is that I'd still be a man. Those tyres looked like they should be labelled HT at best. What a joke.
Yeah auto stop start, Driver monitoring… make it a dealer disable feature like the auto door locking from the MR.
New owners seem to like the extended wheel base and the twin turbo. I like the fact that all you need is some agressive all terrains and you can go see a fair chunk of this amazing country with only a 303 a swag and a billy. So lucky to have such onroad /off road comfort. Travel lite and window down.
For the test traction control at 27:35, you should use the 4HLc = 4H on Hilux or Ranger for the fair comparison. 4H of super select 4WD II does not lock the center diff.
19:07 “No one’s going to be driving their dual-cab utes like this”.
Oh, they will be, unfortunately.
😂
Agree. Famous last words. Drive rural NSW or Qld roads and you'll see it daily
I’ve just come back from a track where the running board rubbed on the side of the ruts, less than five minutes ago. Mine is a 2023 Ranger Wildtrak twin turbo. Yesterday it had a 150 mile run at 80mph down a motorway and the day before it towed nearly four tons of cattle up and down some steep minor roads and some Welsh twisty A roads. The day before it was carrying a full 1000 litre IBC of water from one place to another. I also have a 2014 2.2 auto Ranger Limited that works equally hard daily and the main issue with that one is that it regularly breaks rear leaf springs. It has had five replacements over the years, both genuine and pattern.
They drive like that everywhere in my part of Australia…!!
Only when the tray is filled with 2t of equipment
The Tritons have a great reputation for reliability too.
Which is another factor to consider when purchasing a vehicle of this type.
Unlike the troublesome Ford Rager for instance
Apart from the generational engine failures the Mitsubishi is a fine truck, if you like its driving position and suspension comfort. And they have only now uprated them to tow 3.5 tons. The previous generations only allowed this when towing three axle trailers for some reason, certainly in Europe. No longer an issue in Europe of course, because they [and Nissan] have ceased to sell in that vast market.
Well if you are lucky I guess. Previous gen 4x2 model put some headache to my father, coz traction control are having with error after a year of highway driving 60K run. As per recommendation, change module only, which is cost you a little extra money compare to other brand.
1. Putting a piece of tape over the driver distraction monitor doesn't fix it. It just goes nuts binging and bonging with a message saying "i cAnT sEe YoUr FaCe".
2. The trick with super select is to change mode, give it some gas then let go of the throttle, it'll engage much faster, and that's what my Pajero Sport manual tells you to do.
Waiting for the 2024 dmax review from paul❤
Finally a tough looking Triton, great review... realistic for most of us. I like that it has drum brakes on the rear ... drum brakes offer significantly better braking when under load so i can understand why they use drums... Hilux also use drums for this reason.
A multitude of colour, knowledge and entertainment.
I've been looking forward to this
@31:59 the tires are wet and muddy i cant see how you expect it to get traction to go up. in the other ute tests the wheels were dry and also there was stone on the hill for grip. on the hill test test the ranger raptor did not make it up the first time , then you locked the front and rear diff. you also did not drive the raptor in mud then attempted to do the hill test. is this a new criteria because it looks suspicious to me. its clear the triton has no issues climbing the hill when the tires are dry
Geezus a Triton pushing 70K on road...craziness.
Albo's Australia
@@Gdsamplify Albo is a tool but almost every country in the world has been battling runaway inflation for a couple of years.
top spec hilux is 90
80k is the new entry now, is what it is.
Inflation mate😢
I don't understand why manufacturers make the dash cupholders available only on higher trims. Even the Ranger does this! How much do they save by removing the dash cupholders for the lower trims? Lol.
It’s not a cost thing they have to make an effort to give the top of the range more perks to make the higher price more justifiable, it’s a bit of a joke
Tactic used to make more money. Ridiculous practice that needs to stop. I've never thought to myself "Hrm this has extra cupholders, I'll spend an extra $10k for that"
If the 3 Diamond situates dash cup holders as perks then they've lost me.
Not that it's convenient either, one big bump on the road and you'd be spilling something and be distracted. More of a gimmick than anything.
then no one would buy the top of the range :)
This review pays to read other comments . Either you weren't in neutral or the car had a minor problem. Other users don't get the same issues
The old Triton seemed much better off road, especially the traction control. This is a sad downgrade.
@@richardtimms6645 but he drove it how he would the MR Triton! There are multiple clips of Paul driving the MR Triton and him being impressed. This MV doesn't seem impressive.
Agreed.
Besides the interior, the entire vehicle is a step backward.
That's what you get when you affiliate with manufacturers who have different values to your own.
A sad situation for Mitsubishi...
@@masterchief4519 there were 2 hill test done here, one where the triton had to climb the hill with the tires dry, this is the standard test done and the triton made it with no problems , then there was a test where he got the tires wet , muddy then attempted to climb the hill, this was not done in the test with the old triton or other utes.
in the mega ute test the ranger raptor failed the hill test the first time, after this he proceeded to lock the diff, and keep trying. non of the other utes were tested on the hill climb with wet and muddy tires. i am dissappointed with paul because this looks as if it was done intentionally to make the triton look bad.
@@richardtimms6645why? Nowadays its just press a button and drive.
@@christopherchander2754 Which manufacturer have they collaborated with? I am unaware of any affiliation between this pickup and any other. Mazda have gone with Isuzu and VW with Ford but Mitsubishi and….?
Triton has lost its main advantage against the opposition. Price there are better choices at that price.
Like what are the better choices (NEW)?
@@Mark-jz5ye Like price.
@@Mark-jz5ye V6 Ranger sport
@@markymark8472 though I largely agree with you, comparing used vs new, not quite the right comparison. But do agree they haven't correctly priced the new Triton...
@@Mark-jz5yeyes like price
After seeing this review amongst other Ranger have knocked it out of the park with there latest utes. From interior m, exterior to engine and handling.
I think this new Triton will make for an interesting "Old vs New" comparison. Surprisingly in many ways, the old Triton outperforms the new one especially off road. I also recon that the older lighter Triton is just as quick in a straight line.
Hi Paul. Great review as usual. But I felt it a bit .... rushed? I bought a GSR two weeks ago (New Gen) and love it. With a few "dang, I wish they would fix that" thrown in. I have not experienced the problems you experienced changing modes. But then again, I followed the Mitsubishi guidelines and put it in Neutral first ;-)
I also remember your clear favourite, the Raptor, failing on the hill climb. And needed front, middle and rear diffs locked. And the Raptor has FAR more aggressive tyres. I think doing "offroad" tests of any four wheel drive should be on matching rubber. It's the first thing any person heading offroad will upgrade on their car. So, when you get to the 2024 Ute test, please put the same tyres on each vehicle. Rubber off the showroom floor is practically useless offroad.
As mentioned everywhere the driver distraction and engine cut off are both significant annoyances. Mitsubishi would be better served by remembering the setting the driver selected between drives. Having to turn them off EVERY drive is just frustrating. Hopefully they might fix this in a software update.
The biggest issue I have found is in towing. Yes. Odd. I have a caravan weighing in at 2.7T loaded. On undulating roads, it felt bloody unsafe when I first towed. Then I learned not to fight it and let it do it's thing. Much better. Hitting undulations on the road at 100k's is a new pair of undies experience the first time around until you master the "don't fight it" technique. But, the suspension is way to soft to tow anything over 2.5T IMHO. Your upcoming tow test will no doubt be an eye opener for everyone. I think as the aftermarket suppliers ramp up, a new suspension setup is on the cards.
The driver assists are awesome. But again, you need to get used to them, as there are a few interesting behaviours, particularly if you haven't had a "modern" car before. The adaptive cruise control. It's great considering I am coming from an NX Pajero which has cruise, but is not adaptive. Two times though, I had to take a deep breath. The first I was in peak hour traffic, doing about 80kph on the freeway with the cruise set at 100. Sitting nicely behind a vehicle in front, I was cool McCool with my adaptive cruise control on, speeding up and slowing down with the traffic. Then a motor bike went past me on the passenger side splitting lanes between the cars. I guess he was doing 90-100kph. In an instant the Triton sped up very quickly to catch the bike. I'm not sure if it was me jumping on the brakes, or if it came to it's senses, but it slowed down before I plowed into the car in front. Certainly woke me up.
The next was when following a car in the right lane at 70 on a dual carriage way with a median strip in the middle. Car in front moved right into a turning lane and I was going straight ahead. However, the car slowed down significantly (as it was turning right), and the Triton jumped on the brakes and slowed down to to match it (about 30 kph) in the right lane with cars behind me. And I now had a clear lane ahead slowing to a stop. I stomped on the accelerator. Another pair of undies to wash.
It does say in the drivers manual cruise control only to be used on the freeway. But really?
Having said all that, do I like it? Damn right I do. Do I regret bying it? Not at all. Would I buy something else next time? Nope. Well. Probably not.
To me it came down to what I got for my hard earned. It was quite a bit less than a similar spec 4cyl Ranger, and WAAAY less than a V6 Ranger. And I refuse to pay the Toyota tax.
With the towing observations above, it is still a great towing vehicle. Hills that the Pajero struggled with are no problems for the Triton. It's got all the power I need and there was not a single hill that made it drop below the speed limit. And it's quite a bit more economical than the Pajero. Probably very similar to the Ranger 4cly I imagine. And for me, it is insanely comfortable around town and for long drives.
Unfortunately they need to have them switch back on after each drive or they don't get the 5 star safety rating (or a 10th or two of a litre per 100 less around town, for the stop start). Mitsubishi knows that, and, unless something big changes at ANCAP, they'll tell you to kick rocks, not unlike what Hyundai and Kia did earlier this year.
You'll have to get an OBDII dongle to get them to turn off and stay off.
Just took one for a spin today it was very comfortable on bumpy roads compared to my 21 glsb by a long way yes previous generation is better off road but like me I’m a tradie I’m on the road 95% of the time so this new generation has got my attention now my 21 glsb can go to a off roadie person lol
Can't wait for the my 2024 isuzu dmax review with rough improved traction control you always complained about 😂😂 love your reviews❤
Sub’d from Cambodia. Appreciate the great videos. We didn’t have this awesome truck in the States, glad I’m here now to enjoy them.
Hi paul, can you please run the Outlander PHEV through your off-road course. Thanks.
23 model with a tune an updated headset makes a lot of $$$$ sense
I’d love to see a new Ute test once the new Kia Tasman and BYD Shark are out as well.
Hi Paul, really good long awaited review. They need to either shave off $5000-7000 from the price or take it back and fix the $70k unacceptable poor tunes. I get what Mitsubishi is going for here, but the price defeats that philosophy.
They put in TRI beam LED headlights and then go "nah stuff it let's just chuck in an incandescent indicator".....same story at the rear. I don't get this way of thinking.
@Moon222 if the leds go out your up for replacing the whole light cluster so I don't mind the downgrade . Mitsubishi parts are expensive
@@wax333 So if you want to have that old school mindset, why bother with fancy TRI LED headlights? Also LED light will last the life of your vehicle.
@@lamborghini0610 thats the idea of LED bulbs but they never do last a lifetime as you say
@@wax333 I've got 10 year old cars all with original LED's. My mate had an LED headlight malfunction and it was replaced under warranty. They are not consumables like regular bulbs are.
@@Moon222hence why Chinese cars come with leds standard.
Are you suggesting a Chinese corporation supply these inferior assemblies to Mitsubishi just to make Chinese built utes look superior, I suspect you could be right. 😂
Go GWM, your dealership are about to be overrun by disgruntled Triton buyers.
The fact that you can drive in 4wd high range on sealed surface is fantastic in 2024.
I agree. Although Mitsubishi have had this feature for decades. My old 1993 Pajero could do the same. Currently have a 2016 Triton, I can't remember the last time I drove it in 2wd.
Purchased a new gls mr triton in 2020, payed $48,900 with quite a few extras included in the price. I can honestly say i fail to see where the justification for another 10k is warranted considering the mr still does a few things better. Mitsubishi better be careful, as at this rate they may price themselves out of the market if there not careful.
its more than 10k on road
Beautiful looking truck. Got series 6, fantastic.
Well it's a driver distraction monitor... it monitors the driver and makes sure to distract them :)
Can I please suggest another test? Try removing the spare wheel on these utes and putting them back again. I remove these daily and some of them are so difficult to do. Would be great for you to experience how each of these setup work and assess them accordingly.
Love they kept the analogue guages. Buttons.
Another great review, except i think you'll be doing it again.
There's something wrong with that vehicle. Pretty sure I've seen other videos showing the traction control working at low speed.
Unsealed 4x4's review seems to show otherwise. Their testing showed that the newer Triton had a better 4WD system compared to the previous generation.
@@richardtimms6645 Paul actually owns a Ranger Raptor v6, so he know's how to drive a four wheel drive....
I would love a 4x4 that goes the opposite route to most car manufacturers these days and by that I mean they give us a car with a good engine, disc brakes all around, front and rear lockers standard and absolutely no additional creature comforts like aeb, driver distraction monitoring etc, to cut down on drive away price so that it could be around the $30,000-$35,000 price range. I currently have a 2014 PC challenger and I've not once complained that I don't have aeb, but I would love a front locker. Even if car manufacturers when selling 4x4's opted for their higher tier models to have things like uhf, suspension upgrades, lift kits, instead of these driver assists. I know it's unlikely but I'd absolutely buy a new car if it was bare bones and had a price to show it. So many cars have unnecessary features which add unnecessary cost
The tyres were slick with clay on the second climb. Big difference by the look of it versus the dry hill. There are other reviews of dry climbing where it has been great offroad. Paul notes the state of the hill and muddy tyres on the climb here. Cheers
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Triton's traction control has went from one of the best in class to the worst in its segment. That traction control response reminds me of the D-Max/BT-50 without the rough terrain mode.
yeah thankfully the new facelifted dmax/bt50 that being reviewed in thailand got that much needed rough terrain mode.
Well done on pricing! Even more reason for people to start looking at the chinese and Indian manufacturers 🤦♂️
Nah Chinese is another class altogether for the peasants. This is the price of a hilux rogue minus the power and resale value, this class of buyers will look at ranger or hilux.
Stay away from the chinesium
Ssangyong Musso
Lol no chinese and indian counterpart would be better than a capable, proven and tested nameplate.
If youre considering chinese or indian...
Youre broke
What I can't understand is why out of all the reviews I have watched no one goes into the new triton having adblue fitted. Is this because they dont know about it or is it something that is not an issue to anyone? I am a diesel fitter and have been working with adblue for years now on heavy road transport and mining equipment but this is the first Australian car i have seen with it. Thoughts from you guys on it would be appreciated thanks.
Yeah right, I drove it, hard and soft also drove the Dmax and Toyota, agree with some of your opinions not all but then again I am not a automotive journalist, I bought a GSR. Good review although I don’t agree with all your assessments.
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Hi Paul! Just for the hill descent control speed, I believe, can be adjusted by pressing the accelerator pedal apparently. Also would @carexpert redo this review using a different triton? Seems like there was some injustice done in this review especially in the off road section. Also what did you mean when you said hill read regraded?
Mitsubishi recommends switching between 2H to 4H while moving.
Should only take a couple seconds if you’re on the move
Paul can you do this test again in dry conditons as you did with the MR and select rock mode for maximum agression of the traction control?. Cheers.
Just saw one today in my country in white color and I gotta say, that pictures don't do justice to the new L200. Looks way bigger and nicer than previous platform (in my opinion) and sadly I'll have to watch this review later today (almost midnight in Nic).
Don't forget to watch this
you will be disappointed
So it is worse offroad than the last one?
Design wise I really like the look of the old/outgoing model
I coukdn't possibly consider that ute with that driver monitoring system. A show stopper for me.
Hi Paul if you got the time can you please review the new GWM Tank 500
Agreed, surprised you haven’t done so yet, almost like it’s been avoided but I suppose there’s a lot out there to test
Great review, and honest
Please do a review of the 48V Hilux Rogue - no comparisons exist to the non 48V version
Should have one in the next few weeks.
I recently drove one of these and to me this isn’t the upgrade I hoped it would be, feels like a cheaply built ute that’s lost its biggest advantage….the price! Shows that it doesn’t matter how much a car costs people will still
Buy it, if it’s good.
Thanks Paul - I’d be definitely keeping the previous gen Triton and avoid all those annoying driver aids and stop-stat function and what seems to be a less than adequate 4WD system which is so good in the previous gen - instead spend your money on a new aluminium canopy and don’t tow a 3.5 tonne caravan.
Why not use the diff lock at the end of the first obstacle just to show how much easier is (should) be
i don't understand how adding a second turbo makes it a 'new engine' it's still the same 2.4L. idk if i am missing something but i rather if they have a V6 diesel then the same deployment engine with a second turbo
4n16 isn't the 4n15.
Hi Paul. I really think you need to update the testing process on these 4wds and use low range for the offset mogul. High range TC isn’t tailored for that kind of driving. Low range is. It will give the public a better idea how each systems works between cars.
Interesting review. I replaced my previous VRX with the current GLX-R model to reflect that I didn’t use the bells and whistles That it had. I use it primarily to tow our caravan, and do some off road. It is almost like you were driving a different car. I like the way it drives and have not noticed or been bothered by the issues you raise. It’s almost like you set the car up to fail. Hope it’s not just to please the Ranger groupies.
Well straight away it's been compared to a Ranger. Also there's a bit going on in this review that is concerning, for example the whole won't switch to 4H and taking forever is because it's been done wrong. If you're at a standstill, to go from 2H to 4H it needs to be in Neutral and then it changes within seconds. If changing while moving, foot of the throttle and in a straight line and under 100km/h. It's always been that way and also noted on the sticker at the bottom of the drivers door (or manual if anyone can be bothered looking in there). While yes, the driver monitor is annoying, every other gripe seems a bit blown out. 1 month of ownership of my GSR and there are zero regrets or buyer remorse or feeling of missing out because I don't have a Wildtrak (which was my first preference). Anyway there's enough off-road video's online to show that the Triton performs just fine while being put through its paces.
Thanks for the honest review.
I currently have a 2016 Pajero Sport and been thinking about an update.
Bit disappointed with the offroad ability though. My current Pajero Sport is fantastic offroad.
I do a fair bit of towing with my car now. But find the engine size is not a 100% towing bigger loads. I would like to see how the new Triton goes towing.
Cheers 🍻
It does have a hill hold function and your hill decent speed is changed by changing your speed with the accelerator.
It's ok. Utes are all expensive now so it's no different. We need more decent chinese utes to keep these competitve.
We dont need any more Chinese Ute's here
Will there be a review on the new facelifted Isuzu d’max x terrain
5mins into the review, everthing sound really plasticky.... 😂😂😂😂
thanks for great review
If I cant disable the driver monitoring system permanently this is a non-starter for me.
Like many people who live on the road I drive with one hand at 12o’clock how did they mess up the location of the unit so badly.
Put it in the internal rear view mirror, it’s always in the driver eye line, can easily be swapped for LHD and RHD.
While they are at it… make it switch on after 1hr of motion…
IDK why the GSR don't get the front bumper on the overseas Athlete version.
Not sure why you assumed that the centre diff lock would make any difference to the two axle twister? It would make a difference if there was a big traction difference between the front and back axles though, which wasn’t the case with your twister test. Also if all four wheels are spinning equally, as on that hill, no system invented will create extra traction. You will need skyhooks and warp drive.
How is the adaptive cruise and lane keep assist? In your videos, you always make seperate section for that. This is missing in this video. I am really interested in that. I am tied between Mazda50 sp, Volkswagen Amarok style 500 and gwm cannon Alpha ultra.
It would’ve been good to see how this one compares to the old one when towing. I’d like to think the lower torque range would be a big help.
Hey Paul thanks 😊
Undercooked, underdeveloped. What a shame. Needed another 6 months in the oven to sort those awful driver assistance systems and ride/handling, probably.
on the bright side these issues can be fixed with an update,
then again would Mitsubishi even bother with anything regarding a vehicle that they already sold? lol
@@Moon222already an update out .
Nothing is wrong with the handling, the suspension in the triton is tuned for Australian road conditions by aussies.
There is always a compromise when tuning a suspension, if you choose stiff shock absorbers the ride will be firm, harsh and the vehicle will corner better, if you go for less stiff shocks the ride will be soft , and more comfortable , which is what they were trying to accomplish
No one is going to be driving around corners quickly with a ute, so you may as well tune for comfort, this is common sense, the soft ride also makes it better on rough roads and less harsh.
@@warcrabcyber9908 yes, I understand all that.
The problem is, literally every other ute does a better job. You can go on about how this generation Triton was tuned by the aussies, but the simple fact of the matter is it is still absolutely average. Practically every motor journalism outlet has mentioned how the low speed ride quality is actually pretty jittery - so the fact the high speed body control is so atrocious really shows that the development hasnt been as extensive as theyve led us to believe.
I know you dont go around corners quickly in a 4x4, but it is fairly obvious that theyve not done an “amazing” job.
Further to that, the “driver aid” niggles are inexcusable and downright annoying. You can’t possibly defend that.
@ubernoob103 every other ute does not do a better job, you are making things up as you go along, the new triton has improved ride comfort over the previous model , every motor journalist?
Lies , you should stop generalizing to try and make your point look valid. If you looking for ride comfort , a dmax and hilux is not going to do any better , these are pickups, they are not meant to be hallmarks for ride comfort, if you want ride comfort , you are better off getting a car or suv.
You want a pickup but expecting it to corner like a sports car and ride as comfortable as a luxary car. And still go off road and do everything perfect,
Stop dreaming
Why does every car reviewer call incandescent lights halogen?
Or do you do it because it makes you think it makes you sound smarter and more knowledgeable?
Some incandescent lights, specifically usually main and dipped beam bulbs, are indeed of the inert halogen gas filled type.
👍 wait 12-24 months I'm sure they will change and improve a few things like they always do.
want this in the USA so badly, would be killer in the snow.
Hard to believe a 24 model vehicle , worth the best part of 70K, still comes with analogue instrument panel and hasn’t got led lights all round
Those dashboard gauges and steering wheel look suspiciously similar to my 2022 Nissan Navara... Heard they were platform sharing for the new models, interested to see Nissans new version.
They will shared some parts but engine and transmission was fully developed by Mitsubishi!! The new Nissan Navara will probably have a Mitsubishi engine and transmission!
You can probably do a moose/roo test included in your future testing...
Hey Paul, Once the new Prado and GX comes into Aus. Can you test them side by side. What's the difference between the Lexus version and the Toyota version. Pls.
It's a very modest Mitsubishi like many of its models.
Good a New program!
Present Elite Edition too!
2024!❤
Drum brakes, leaf springs and halogen lights for 68k equals MASSIVE FAIL
It’s a joke! China going to take over.
Am I the only one seeing a lot of the Nissan influence here? Navara cluster, similar key fob, front radar sensor, engine bay layout etc.
I was wondering if they are not largely the same vehicle -- Mitsubishi is now part of the Renault/Nissan alliance... don't think Nissan has a twin-turbo 4cyl, certainly not in Canada, where the Frontier (Navara) only comes with a 3.8L V6.
I've watched many of these Ute reviews and just wonder about the usefulness of the traction control test in 2WD on the offset mogul. Surely if the vehicle has 4WD, as a driver it would make more sense to use its full capabilities to get you through an obstacle. A moose test or something on a slippery surface would be more valuable to me as a buyer to test traction and stability control.
I would be keen to hear your towing test
Highly subjective:
I bought GSR recently, despite annoying driver monitoring system I'm very happy with the car. I chose between GSR model, Amarok Style 3.0L and GWM/LDV UTEs.
GWM/LDV - nope, just nope
Mitsubishi vs Amarok:
The entertainment system and ergonomic is much better in Mitsubishi. I drive a lot and using Ford/VW new Tesla-like screen is inconvenient and sometimes dangerous.
Engines:
Ford/VW 2.0L - unbalanced, lots of vibrations
Ford/VW 3.0 - much better, smooth
Mitsu 2.4L - classic, my bros never had problem with it, it felt more perky than Ford 3.0 when you start driving.
Speaking of price:
Amarok Style 2 L can beat Mitsubishi, but this Ford 2.0L engine is so unbalanced, you sit in a tractor and feel ugly vibrations thus we have VW 3.0 vs Mitsu.
In total, I got 10k price advantage buying GSR vs VW. This includes ~8k price difference between the cars + trade in price none of VW dealers could give me.
I could include Ford Ranger in comparison, but I never considered buying FORD.
@CarExpertAus yes Paul, it does say A/T but it's clearly an A/T aimed at retaining reasonable HWY traction, low road noise and primarily gravel road grip.
It's not in the category of the A/T fitted std to your Raptor, is it?
Even you couldn't say they are are A/T tread pattern when compared to you BFGoodrich K02 which is what viewers expect a A/T tread pattern to look like.
I used to run Perelli Scorpion A/T's on my on road car, as I knew it would be better suited for gravel and more puncture resistant, but they were totally useless on grassy inclines for grip (sorry Perelli).
An experienced man like yourself can see what I'm implying, some A/T's don't have tread pattern to grip, just as these on the Triton clearly don't.
KO2's would make a huge difference, yet they are still categorised as A/T but have a tread pattern you'd expect a A/T to have.
Thats why there are so many comments here, "They're not A/T's" which the tread pattern clearly aren't of the std off roaders expect an A/T to have.
No one purchasing after market A/T's would even consider this tread pattern.
Charming 😍
Owned the MN and MR Tritons. Really like the Super Select system. Was really looking forward to the MV. Was a bit disappointed. Better than the MR in every way but not leagues better. Ended up buying a V6 Ranger. By the time you add the towbars/liner/brake controller/mats/lid/AT tyres the price difference wasn't as much as list price would indicate. The 6spd was disappointing, the gaps between gears (900rpm) are too big for 3t towing. The taller diff ratios (4.09:1) were a disappointment, 10% more power and torque but 5% heavier and 5% taller gears???? They extended the wheelbase but still isn't market leading then also extended the cab and tray. Overhang to towball is still 200mm longer than on a Ranger. The final straw was that driver monitoring.
I could go a 2 door that you showed at the start👌
The camera is so good. Nissan needs to learn from this.
It is made under Nissan brand control... Remember Nissan owns Mitsubishi now
Unbelievably disappointing. I was so hoping this new model would be a step forward in many ways but it’s perhaps one forward and two back.
Definately a step forward. Maybe not a leap, but a step, in every way. Go for a drive. It isn't a V6 Ranger but it is much better than the MR Triton.
No doubt the sine wave is good for testing body control but do you really think it's an indication of overtaking on a country road? Your basically saying that every dual cab ute and vehicles with soft suspension are ok for the city but not suitable for highway driving which is kinda ridiculous
Have they fixed the front sensors gutless towing.
They tow 3500kg now rather than 3100kg like the previous model.
Hey paul i noticed that it has a stop and go option. If you will always use or turn on that feature i am concerned about the turbo lifespand.
You have to manually press a button to turn this damned feature OFF, every time you turn the car on.
no mention of the roller cover for the tray or the paddle shifters that are missing