Better than Bambu?! | Creality K1C Review
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- The most recent 3D Printer I purchased is the Creality K1C. We bought it specifically to test against the Bambu P1S and see if the cheaper Creality 3P Printer is the king of the assembled CoreXY machines. Creality released the K1C priced competitively and with a feature set ready to tackle the current king of CoreXY Bambu lab. For the price of of around $550 you get a fully enclosed CoreXY 3D printer capable of printing carbon filled engineering grade filaments with a hardened steel nozzle. Running Klipper firmware the machine has the capability of a high amount of customization and control. Is creality ready to take the thrown or did they drop the ball?
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I have quite a few printers that all run Klipper and wanted a core xy. So I decided to pick up a k1 on a huge flash sale a while back. I was aware of the issues at the time so I planned for it and was OK with some tuning and modding. I bought a camera, an updated extruder, updated hot end, installed the k1 max brass nozzle with steel insert and a few PEI sheets. I also rooted mine and leveled the bed and printed some upgrades. I sealed my enclosure as well and added a carbon filter. I also spent some time adjusting the belts and some time tunning most of my filaments on ORCA. My k1 now prints like a dream. And I mean it puts out some amazing prints. I have a variance of 0.12mm on my build plate now and once I did I saw perfect first layers. I know it sounds like a lot of work but for the price you can't find a better printer. But you do have to like tinkering and upgrading your printers. So for me, it was fun to mess around with it. I have no banding at all on mine. The only thing is a bit of VFA's at certain speeds. So I adjust accordingly. So to me the K1 is not for everyone. But is a great option for those who want to upgrade a core xy and don't want to build a Voron. Oh I designed a seal for the door that fits great and has a good seal. I can give you the link if you want. Great video and sorry you had so many issues with your K1C. That sucks
PLEASE i need the link! I have the k1c and hate the gap, everything else though i agree with you. haven’t rooted mine yet but your right, vfxs are easy to fix with just a change in print speeds. I like everything else about this printer thought and 100% agree you can’t complain for the money.
Came here from the infill podcast... SUPER high production quality. 👍As far as the topic... the K1c sounds exactly like the K1 tbh lol - k1 was my first printer and I love it because I got it for $390 and I get to benefit from quick 3d prints for functional parts but the print quality issues are definitely there. I'll probably get around to modding it into better print quality for now but it hasn't been #1 on my priority list.
Awesome! The K1C and V3 are really next level!
I bought the v3 myself as well for content and just for my business as well.
I won a K1C last night in the Creality live stream. Im still in shock but im super excited to race the two printers! Im comparing the A1 mini and the new core xz v3. I am super hyped to record content on the k1c as well!
Great review, im so excited. You earned my sub Rem!
PS. I reccomend you give the bambu lab 16 dollar liquid glue a try. Its really amazing stuff. I am super impressed with it!
I hope you enjoy your new machines!!
I haven’t tried Bambu’s liquid glue yet but have had great results in the past from magigoo
Subscribed! You have a very good ethic and integrity. You are NOT sold to those businesses which means that you are protecting us, customers. Bambu Lab printers are by far the most polished 3D printers on the market. Thank you very much for this review.
Thanks for the sub glad to have you aboard! I will ALWAYS share my honest thoughts about a product. The K1C has serious potential but can’t get out of its own way unfortunately
great content !!! love the point of views :D
Thanks David!!
The print quality from the Bambu lab is incredible - right out of the box
You can easily solve the problem with the glue of the previous print sticking to another print by washing the buildplate with hot soapy water and then drying it good after every print.
Great review and information. i also bought a K1c, but i am a neophyte vs experienced user like yourself. i built my own printer in 2016, then subsequently gave that to a kid who wanted to learn. i think bought a Lulzbot Taz 5. i printed some very cool things on that printer, but my interest waned and i stopped printing around 2018. The reason? i didn't want to be a printer mechanic, constantly having to tinker with and tune the printer. i wanted to delve more into design and actual printing. i got excited with printing again with all the rave reviews on Bambu Labs. So why did i go with the K1C? Bambu's proprietary focus is what held me back. While i do not want to be a printer mechanic, i don't want to give up, what to me is core to the 3d printing community: "open source." What i find though is, what i tried to avoid (i.e., being a printer mechanic), is still not as possible as i hoped it would be. It's better. Way better. Just having automatic leveling is a visit to Nirvana.... but now i have to root the machine and tune it, which is a learning curve for me i'm not looking forward too. I've actually tried and failed to root my printer twice, and i'm sure it's just ignorance on my part, the guides i've used have been stellar and many have succeeded using them. i'm going to keep my K1c because to me it honors the open source community in ways Bambu has not, but like you, i am not a happy customer.
Hey Paul thanks for checking out the video. I totally see your points about the open source side of things. It ultimately boils down to what you’re looking for in an experience I think. I hope you’re able to get your K1C on track!
Thanks a lot for a good and honest review of the K1C. After it came out, reviews have been sparse, and most are very superficial and seem to be happy to see it print at all, but they don’t take a critical look at the machine like you have done.
I feel that Creality have done the same here as with the Emder-series; They’re close to getting it real good, but odd decisions are making it less than ideal.
The K1C quality issues you’re facing seem to be due to unstable frame and too narrow belts, and I’m not sure there’s an easy fix for that. It’s certainly not something I’d bet on.
So for the around $150 more, I’ll say that Bambu Lab P1S is still a better buy, regardless of the odd little screen and weird controls, which costs less than $20 to upgrade.
Glad you liked the video. Putting out a negative review feels like such a weird thing, but ultimately being honest and fair is a huge deal. I wanted to love this machine I really did, it checked so many boxes for what I’m looking for, but ultimately it just didn’t hang for me
I have a Creality CR 20 Pro printer. It's basically just an ender 3 printer. It’s the first and only 3d printer I have. After all the struggling to get it print well, I lost my interest for the hobby. I just didn't get good prints and got more or less lost in Cura. So much adjustments that I got overwhelmed. My printer have not been used for a few years now. I got the ich again though. You can be sure it will not be on a Creality printer. I will get me a Bambu Lab P1S, maybe combo, but the good thing, I can just add that later.
I actually want to like Creality. Very affordable machines, that are easy to get part for where I live and are upgradeable. With that said, a Bambu Lab isn't that much more and all reviews is have seem say it’s just plug & play. It just work. Thats a huge selling point for me now.
Thank you for an honest review.
Definitely a bummer! Hopefully whatever you get next gives you much better results!
I hope he gets the k1 max next! I own a k1 max along with my neptune 4 and honestly thinking about selling the neptune 4 because u barely use it anymore and the 300x300x300 build plate and ai camera is nice
you should have did the x1c vs the k1c as the only difference is price and some features
An X1 wasn’t in our budget. But the K1C like P1P are pretty similarly stacked, for a more comparable budget. Neither have the AI.
I'm sorry it didn't work out. I appreciate your review. I am not a tinker, I would much rather hit print and know that it is going to come out how I want it. So thank you for taking the time to make this video.
Thanks Deana! It’s a bummer but frees the funds up for something else in the future!
I really really REALLY wanted to like the K1C, I just couldn't get past the shortcomings.
It checks so many boxes for me 😐
I know most people think an Ender 3 is barely worth owning. I'm one of those who has two of them and enjoy them immensely. But, no way I'm going to up my game with another 220 x 220 build plate. They should have copied Bambu with the bigger plate. Rediculous mistake.
The ender 3 is definitely worth owning! The issue is just the older ones needed some serious work. The build volume was for sure disheartening but negligible if it performed like a rockstar
Keep your outer wall over 300mms and vfa basically disappears. Slow is not your friend on K1 series.
I drank the Koolaid and bought four K1C’s and in my opinion they are just warmed over K1’s with similar problems.
I also own four K1’s and shipped back the K1C’s because the improvements weren’t worth $600.
It has so much potential but I can’t suggest people buy it in its current state based off my experience
Returning a printer that is just released.. Why not wait on updates, mate? It will get better.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! I had to make the decision within a certain time window so I didn’t lose the ability to return the machine.
Ultimately it came down to my belief the short comings are hardware based and not software based. This machine is positioned as one that doesn’t need tinkering and I didn’t purchase it with the intention of another project printer. My hope was that it should have been a “set it and forget it” machine.
The return was not a decision I made lightly because I genuinely wanted to love the printer, it checked so many boxes for what I wanted / needed but ultimately I couldn’t justify keeping it for the price I paid relative to my experience. I’ve seen plenty of people really enjoying their K1C printers and I’m very happy for them! I had a bad experience and can’t recommend the product based on my own experience and if I’m going to purchase something so expensive I’m not willing to write off that much as a loss. I’ve spent my fair share of dumb money on things, and lost out on plenty but my hopes and expectations didn’t meet the reality of the situation for me personally
I love my k1c. Its been great so far. I own several Bambu Labs, vzbots and a ratrig. But my favorite one will shock uou, the Flashforge 5m pro. Hands down the most reliable printer i own
I’m glad you’re enjoying your K1C! It’s not for me and mine may have been a bum machine but glad yours is performing. I don’t have any experience with flash forge. I might need to get hands on!
@@remthompson solid response. I really love my Flashforge. Definitely is an underrated machine imho
I've heard good things about them in the past, just never lined up for that to be a machine for me@@tjlqk3
Any sources for good profiles for Prusa and Orca slicers? Mine just arrived :)
@wadiakowald1647 Having owned both K1C and P1S, it is genuinely my opinion you should go for the Bambu. It is the better built machine.
Creality will never get another dime from me. All of my 3d printers going forward will be from bambu labs. I just got an a1 mini and I'm blown away by how easy it was to set up and get running. I'll be getting a full size a1 once they come back in stock. With creality machines, the printer ends up being the hobby. With bambu labs, the modeling and printing is the hobby, which I prefer.
Which dark blue cf petg did you use? I have one from voxelab that sounds similar to what you're describing.
It is different things for different people. Modding machines has a time and place for me, but it is nice to be able to just hit print.
Voxelab CF PETG is what I used!
the bottom layer previous print thing sounds like a user issue not a machine issue. clean your build plate
It’s very possible! I do believe I acknowledged in the video it could have been too much glue, I’ve never had to use glue stick on a printer before. Always used magigoo or hairspray when needed. At least my prints all stuck :)
I don't need glue.... perfects first lines
The biggest problem that im having atm is the fact that i ordered it on the 8th and it still hasnt shipped nor have i gotten a reply from customer support...
Whoa that’s wild. What was the expected shipping time frame for that??
@@remthompson i wanna say it was the 15th-18th, with the bundled items between today and the 3rd of march. So far only 2 of the bundled items have come in but hopefully the rest will follow this week
I just bought and loved a Flashforge Adventurer 5M for two weeks. And then it died. Some sort of electronics board inside the tool head. "Warranty" means that if you jump through a bunch oh hoops, we'll send you what we think is wrong with your printer, shipped from China.
I had previously thought about a K1 or K1C, but the K1 has artifacts and the K1C has artifacts and a cheesy little glued-on silicon brush that is crucial to the proper functioning of the bed leveling system.
I think Bambus are out of my price range and, IDK there are other reasons I just object to their stuff. AMS is a machine designed to waste plastic, for honestly not-that-good-looking multicolor prints at a time where there is increased scrutiny of plastic waste in the rest of society.
This segment of the 3D printing market is just not there yet. Sub $500 -- Fast -- Reliable . You can only pick two.
The hot end is the problem in k1c
i have the K1 and k1c also i have a elegoo neptune 4 pro and a bambu lab P1S get the bambu lab much better and i have no issue with it every print have been perfect some people have been having issue with there K1 and c and there been loads that have been perfect out of the box it the earlier model that still having issues also creailty is bring out a upgrade multi colour printing system for the K1 and max and c very soon also a new K2 coming out very soon
I just returned my K1C to micro center and exchanged it for a Bambu
What were you experiencing with yours?
Was this your first machine?
Print quality is awful on my K1C, really regret getting this over Bambu. Troubleshooted for 2 weeks, but the K1C is just a dud. Cannot get layers to align properly, results in a messy looking print.
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Hahaha Bambu killer
What a disappointment but look at the bright side you will be able to get your money back and seek a new adventure. XD
Yeah my thoughts exactly, but what is the question 🤔
@@remthompson The question ??? What is next on the agenda ?
The more you pay the more you like about it, even if it's not true. Cough cough , Apple.
So I agree to an extent. However when you look at the situation, bambu puts all of their engineering into a small number of machines compared to creality. Apple puts their phone development into one phone with several sizes essentially compared to Samsung.
More engineering one a smaller number of items tends to lead to a higher quality released product. Creality tends to push several versions of the same machines. 3 ender 3s released at once was quite a lot
@@remthompson Apple hardware once upon a time was works of art. Now the hardware is nothing special at all and sometimes even sub par. Apple has the eco system, that's what makes Apple 'better' than say Samsung. It's certainly not the hardware. I think the same can be said about printers, often really good designs are sabotaged by bad software and eco systems. Bambu makes really good hardware and they did a good job leveraging existing software to make a good eco system. Eventually more and more companies will make as good or better printers, it'll be about the eco system, support and brand loyalty. People do tend to feel a product is better IF they paid a premium for that product.
The K2 will see the bambu off, July 31st
'Promosm' 💘
so glad I didnt purchase anything from LTT. RIP
Cut the BS and concentrate on the printer - less talking more action.