Just trying to help. If anyone follows your bms wiring they are going to fry it and/or there cells. After the black ground wire you start with the red one next to it in that order. Just look at the diagram you showed. You are trying to teach everyone starting with the wrong positive and going backwards. Don’t want to step on your toes in what your doing. Just trying to help. I’m probably going to make a similar video in the upcoming future. Hope my 2 cents helps
@@KeigoMoriyama in the video he essentially described it exactly backwards. You start with the black wire and you connect that to your negative terminal. Then the wire right next to it goes to your first series connection. Then the wire next to that goes to the next series connections so on and so forth until the last wire which will be a red wire is on the positive terminal.
The bms was helpful. I build my own but was looking to see how others do it. I'm curious of how efficient they are after stepping down the power and balancing the cells. 36 volt at 40 amp would be about 400 amp at 3.6. If the power is split by resistors then there would be about 10 amp per cell. I bet you are losing about 20 to 40 percent power but it would be nice to see. You should see how much power per cell and how much power going in to see. I use large ah 3.2 volt cells with a much higher current charge. I have a lot more bms equipment but a lot more efficient design. I use no resistors and don't step the voltage down
Is there a pattern when hooking up the bms wires? I first hooked up all the P-,P+,C-,C+,B-,B+, from the bms to the battery, then when I started finishing the balance wires, I noticed little smoke was coming out of the bms. Am I supposed to wired the balance wires first?
Hello, I am hoping you could help me with this question. I made 3-24p 18650 battery packs, wired them in series to get 12v @ 60 ahs and added a 100amp BMS. Can I make a pack just like the one I mentions to acquire 120ahs? Thank you for your feed back. Have a nice day.
lithium batteries don't come fully charged. and storing fully charged long term can shorten the life. I font know if I'd trust that much current through those holders.
Just trying to learn..here the max discharge of those batteries based on LG documentation is 20a...2.7 Max. Discharge Current For continuous discharge 20000mA..2.6.2 Fast DischargeConstant current 10000mA , 20000mA...I'm confused how much discharge the motors do? Can you help me with that..why 20a or 30a max discharge work satisfy both motors? would 30am will be better? for that same setup?
to anybody that is watching he points out the count in reverse you want to start from negative then go up to 10. if you where to check the voltages counting up they would increment from 3.7 up to 36 volts the way he counted was de-increment this is wrong and you will possibly fry ur BMS
And just in case people were so impressed with the video not to listen to this comment Nicholas is absolutely correct. Wire it the way the video tells you to and expect to fry your BMS at the very least. You always connect the negative to your negative terminal then the positive or next wire to the negative goes to the first series connection then the next wire goes to the next series connection and so on and so forth. The last wire should end up at the positive terminal. If it does not you did something wrong. So basically the video tells you to do it backwards. This video should be flagged for removal.
Thanks guys.. thought it was wrong.. the red wire next to the black goes on the positive on the cell on the posititive side of the pack negative. Man this is hard to verbalise The red wire next to the black goes on the positive of the cell to the far right of the pack then you can work your way across right to left.. was that better?
Everything he said was great up until the point he tried to explain the schematic for how to wire the 10 wires. His explanation was actually backwards and would absolutely fry your BMS if you did it the way he described.
Hi! great video! I have a semi-related question.. I have a few (3) batteries, each with a built in bms constraining output to 50 amps. If I wire them in parallel and try drawing 120 amps, will it compromise the batteries?
Theres no reason to use bms for discharge unless you want to limit your battery? In skateboard if you do that you could get crashed, esk8 sudden stop, careful.
2 thumbs and 2 toes up. Just what I was looking for. I'm a NuBe. And this video cleared things up a bit. Would this build you talked about be the same for a 36 battery 12v pack. And would that pack i just mentioned be called 3/P or 3/S.
So i got a 10S6P Pack, soddering finished, now i somehow need to Install a BMS, but there are no 10S6P systems Out there (If there are, pls Link) should i Just use 6 of These?
Bms's do not monitor single cells unless it's a 1p battery. Bms's monitor groups of cells, each individual parallel group. The same BMS you would use for a 10s 1p you would use for a 10s 6p.
Just out of curiosity...do you know how to refurbish an EMC2 API 1FS18 200voltDC 1000W Standby Power Suppliy batteries? i appreciate your time and input. Liked and subscribed and commented ;-)
If you connect in series the mah stays the same but you multiply the voltage. If you connect in parallel than voltage stays the same and the mah multiplies. Hope this makes sense
@@JustVlads it actually makes sense, what i'm not really sure about is the battery life that skateboard will have, cause with that cell configuration your capacitance is 3000mAh, which is not much.
You did a good job putting the video together but unfortunately the information is absolutely incorrect. The way you described how to wire the BMS for the individual monitoring of groups of cells was backwards. The easiest way to understand how to wire a BMS is to start with the black wire. The black wire gets tired right into the negative terminal that you have created for your battery. Then the red wire right next to it goes to the first series connection and you keep going on and on like that. What you did was set everyone up to fry their BMS. Do the right thing and recreate it with the correct information. You're literally liable for any damage that someone does based on your video. I didn't see a disclaimer. And don't think in terms of ruining a BMS. Think in terms of burning someone's house down and killing people. Not cool to put together a video showing people how to do something inherently dangerous when you're not quite sure yourself what you're doing.
@@blakey271able once you have all the parts you need find a different video. If you follow the instructions in this video he instructed you to wire the 10 wires from the BMS backward and you will fry your BMS.
@@aznative_ thanks nice to know I will definitely be doing some serious research before anyway I would rather understand what I am doing than just copying something
@@blakey271able check out Jehu Garcia Channel if you want some really good in-depth information. He's not an engineer he's a do-it-yourselfer but he's extremely knowledgeable and can describe things in ways that are easy to understand. He does everything from building Electric Cars to solar applications. He's a really good resource.
If your pack is 10 cells the 36v the capacity is 30,000mah. If you are charging an individual cell 3.6v the capacity is 3000mah. Hope this answers your question.
Thats correct your capacity multiplies per each cell. So if you have 6 3.6v cells giving you a total of 18,000mah capacity. This is how your pack will be specified - 21.6v at 3000mah = to 64.8 Watt Hours. Its the same as say you have 6 3.6v cells in parallel giving you 3.6v at 18,000mah = 64.8 Watt hours. So its more easier to understand total capacity with watt hours than with mah. Hope all this is making sense.
Anyone still not quite sure of what connecting batteries in SERIES means, think of how the batteries in a flashlight/torch are loaded. That's batteries in SERIES.
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I've watched a lot of these videos but this was the one I found to be the most clear by far, good stuff.
THANK YOU! Very clear explanation and no confusing parts, just what i was looking for.
I see I'm not the only one who finally learned how to do this from watching his video.
I watched 1000 videos and couldn't figure it out 🤣
Thanks for sharing your video you have no idea how helpful this was 👉
Thanks brah. I'm rebuilding a battery pack and I was confused about some things but this video cleared it all up.
❤VERY GOOD , IS ONE OF THE UNDERSTNDABLE TUTORIALS 🤜🤛 THX
beautifully explained I get it now ( with all they red wires ) thank you for sharing
Bro you explained this better than anyone else. Thank you
well this makes sense and easy way doing it i seen many videos on this bms yours was easy to under stand
Bro you did such a great job with this video. Well done 👍
Just trying to help. If anyone follows your bms wiring they are going to fry it and/or there cells. After the black ground wire you start with the red one next to it in that order. Just look at the diagram you showed. You are trying to teach everyone starting with the wrong positive and going backwards. Don’t want to step on your toes in what your doing. Just trying to help. I’m probably going to make a similar video in the upcoming future. Hope my 2 cents helps
Thank You. I was going to say the same thing until I read your comment.
Ok i did what vlad did and my 10s bms heated up.
Can i still use the bms?
Brian Taylor how to do then? Please help
@@KeigoMoriyama in the video he essentially described it exactly backwards. You start with the black wire and you connect that to your negative terminal. Then the wire right next to it goes to your first series connection. Then the wire next to that goes to the next series connections so on and so forth until the last wire which will be a red wire is on the positive terminal.
This is an amazing and helpful video thank you
simple english, clear explain. thanks
Cleared good job bro
The bms was helpful. I build my own but was looking to see how others do it. I'm curious of how efficient they are after stepping down the power and balancing the cells. 36 volt at 40 amp would be about 400 amp at 3.6. If the power is split by resistors then there would be about 10 amp per cell. I bet you are losing about 20 to 40 percent power but it would be nice to see. You should see how much power per cell and how much power going in to see. I use large ah 3.2 volt cells with a much higher current charge. I have a lot more bms equipment but a lot more efficient design. I use no resistors and don't step the voltage down
Thank you big help.. So probably a silly question if I wish to make a 12s all I need to do is and an extra pair on the end.??? Cheers David
Yep, adding two more would make a 12s. Cheers
Where is the second video? Thanks for sharing.
Is there a pattern when hooking up the bms wires? I first hooked up all the P-,P+,C-,C+,B-,B+, from the bms to the battery, then when I started finishing the balance wires, I noticed little smoke was coming out of the bms. Am I supposed to wired the balance wires first?
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Can i use only 8s battery with this 10s BMS?
where is installation part ???????????????
Hello, I am hoping you could help me with this question. I made 3-24p 18650 battery packs, wired them in series to get 12v @ 60 ahs and added a 100amp BMS. Can I make a pack just like the one I mentions to acquire 120ahs? Thank you for your feed back. Have a nice day.
Does it work for 10s2p?
hi, what about the connection to the ESC and the charging port on the battery ?
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Two questions
1.) Can you charge and discharge from the same discharge port?
2.) If you use the charge port can you discharge at the same time?
Thanks for vid , does it not matter for each battery neg - or positive + for the BMS ????
Can I spot weld the batteries instead of soldering the holders together?
Yes
Good job. Very nice video. Thanks for your info
Brill. Thanks
thank you just found out your channel, brilliant info, much appreciated!
lithium batteries don't come fully charged. and storing fully charged long term can shorten the life. I font know if I'd trust that much current through those holders.
I did think you were guna build. But nice vid. Liked
Just trying to learn..here the max discharge of those batteries based on LG documentation is 20a...2.7 Max. Discharge Current For continuous discharge 20000mA..2.6.2 Fast DischargeConstant current 10000mA , 20000mA...I'm confused how much discharge the motors do? Can you help me with that..why 20a or 30a max discharge work satisfy both motors? would 30am will be better? for that same setup?
How many volt for charger you will need for bms 10s
to anybody that is watching he points out the count in reverse you want to start from negative then go up to 10. if you where to check the voltages counting up they would increment from 3.7 up to 36 volts the way he counted was de-increment this is wrong and you will possibly fry ur BMS
And just in case people were so impressed with the video not to listen to this comment Nicholas is absolutely correct. Wire it the way the video tells you to and expect to fry your BMS at the very least. You always connect the negative to your negative terminal then the positive or next wire to the negative goes to the first series connection then the next wire goes to the next series connection and so on and so forth. The last wire should end up at the positive terminal. If it does not you did something wrong. So basically the video tells you to do it backwards. This video should be flagged for removal.
Thanks guys.. thought it was wrong.. the red wire next to the black goes on the positive on the cell on the posititive side of the pack negative.
Man this is hard to verbalise
The red wire next to the black goes on the positive of the cell to the far right of the pack then you can work your way across right to left.. was that better?
Did you charge up each battery before checking on the meter ??
Thank you very much! U helped me alot! Do you think, the battery box with the springs is better and safer?
Everything he said was great up until the point he tried to explain the schematic for how to wire the 10 wires. His explanation was actually backwards and would absolutely fry your BMS if you did it the way he described.
Hi! great video! I have a semi-related question..
I have a few (3) batteries, each with a built in bms constraining output to 50 amps. If I wire them in parallel and try drawing 120 amps, will it compromise the batteries?
Theres no reason to use bms for discharge unless you want to limit your battery? In skateboard if you do that you could get crashed, esk8 sudden stop, careful.
I was curious to know if this could power an electric skateboard?
I was wondering if using LG H2 batteries would make a difference
2 thumbs and 2 toes up. Just what I was looking for. I'm a NuBe. And this video cleared things up a bit. Would this build you talked about be the same for a 36 battery 12v pack. And would that pack i just mentioned be called 3/P or 3/S.
What this the balancing current of that bms?
The chart at 11:41 is not right. 1 3 5 7 9 is correct but 2 4 6 8 10 is backwards. It shows 10 between 1 and 3.
IM TRYING TO REPLICATE MY BATTERY FOR MY SKATEBOARD IT SAYS ITS 20 CELL BUT 36V WOULD THAT MEAN ITS A SMALLER BATTERY ?
THAT'S A 10S 2P (2 PARALLEL LINES OF 10CELLS EACH) = 36V
@@jopamaster thanks
With what kind of wire did you connect the cell holders?? Or dit you solder nikkle strips to them?? Video helpt me a lot!!!!
I just used a 16 gauge lamp wire. As long as the wire is copper it should be fine. Thanks
Was there a assembly video ?
So i got a 10S6P Pack, soddering finished, now i somehow need to Install a BMS, but there are no 10S6P systems Out there (If there are, pls Link) should i Just use 6 of These?
Bms's do not monitor single cells unless it's a 1p battery. Bms's monitor groups of cells, each individual parallel group. The same BMS you would use for a 10s 1p you would use for a 10s 6p.
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Just out of curiosity...do you know how to refurbish an EMC2 API 1FS18 200voltDC 1000W Standby Power Suppliy batteries? i appreciate your time and input. Liked and subscribed and commented ;-)
Do the mah stays the same or 3000mah x 10? Awesome video by the way very easy to follow sub:)
If you connect in series the mah stays the same but you multiply the voltage. If you connect in parallel than voltage stays the same and the mah multiplies. Hope this makes sense
@@JustVlads it actually makes sense, what i'm not really sure about is the battery life that skateboard will have, cause with that cell configuration your capacitance is 3000mAh, which is not much.
You didn’t number the lines right. You swapped 10 and 1
You did a good job putting the video together but unfortunately the information is absolutely incorrect. The way you described how to wire the BMS for the individual monitoring of groups of cells was backwards. The easiest way to understand how to wire a BMS is to start with the black wire. The black wire gets tired right into the negative terminal that you have created for your battery. Then the red wire right next to it goes to the first series connection and you keep going on and on like that. What you did was set everyone up to fry their BMS. Do the right thing and recreate it with the correct information. You're literally liable for any damage that someone does based on your video. I didn't see a disclaimer. And don't think in terms of ruining a BMS. Think in terms of burning someone's house down and killing people. Not cool to put together a video showing people how to do something inherently dangerous when you're not quite sure yourself what you're doing.
we just got scammed! he didn't even build any 18650's...he just packs em together
Didn't he made a battery of 18650 batteries?
Could you do installation please
CHeck out this video: th-cam.com/video/8ve_71EqIkQ/w-d-xo.html
So would this be 36v at 3000mah or 30 000 mah? must keep learning
3000 mAh :)
@@Gagsel I will learn by the time I have all the parts I need
@@blakey271able once you have all the parts you need find a different video. If you follow the instructions in this video he instructed you to wire the 10 wires from the BMS backward and you will fry your BMS.
@@aznative_ thanks nice to know I will definitely be doing some serious research before anyway I would rather understand what I am doing than just copying something
@@blakey271able check out Jehu Garcia Channel if you want some really good in-depth information. He's not an engineer he's a do-it-yourselfer but he's extremely knowledgeable and can describe things in ways that are easy to understand. He does everything from building Electric Cars to solar applications. He's a really good resource.
Hmm..what about 10s2p
What's the capacity I set my charger is it still 3000mah?
If your pack is 10 cells the 36v the capacity is 30,000mah. If you are charging an individual cell 3.6v the capacity is 3000mah. Hope this answers your question.
@@JustVlads I made a 6cell pack in series 3.6 a cell at 3000 mah per cell so do I times the mah by 6?
Thats correct your capacity multiplies per each cell. So if you have 6 3.6v cells giving you a total of 18,000mah capacity. This is how your pack will be specified - 21.6v at 3000mah = to 64.8 Watt Hours. Its the same as say you have 6 3.6v cells in parallel giving you 3.6v at 18,000mah = 64.8 Watt hours. So its more easier to understand total capacity with watt hours than with mah. Hope all this is making sense.
These sleds are rated 5A per cell, don't use them.
Hg2 are 20a cells and putting them in sleds rated for 5a. Not a good idea.
yolo 1600 Watt motor and the lithium cells are going to burn xD
Anyone still not quite sure of what connecting batteries in SERIES means, think of how the batteries in a flashlight/torch are loaded. That's batteries in SERIES.
the way of the positive and negative poles are conected is the same, only change the configuration
Awesome
Thanks for the vid
Your battery tabs are melting because they are plastic. You might as well be using triple a batteries lol
Cool, making mine soon.
its 5s 2p
bro, dont mislead people, its a 10s 36v
@@JustVlads bro erase this video as it has bad wiring instructions. The way you described to wire the 10 wires was backwards.
So confusing!
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