Great takes. A lot of selective memory in fan base on whole MM situation pre-draft. A season like this with wild swings in performance gives fans with the benefit of 20:20 hindsight lots of talking points. Sadly, these same fans could crush Demidov with expectations far beyond what a 20 year old should be expected to deliver. Cheers!
Here’s my super unpopular opinion on Montreal’s rebuild lol I’m not a fan of what Hughes and Gorton has done. I did not like Slaf pick although he seems like a great kid. I would have preferred Cooley who clearly was the most skilled player of that draft. I did not like the trade for Kirby Dach, an unproven player who had been injured a lot already and with the 13th pick, they could have picked Frank Nazar who in my opinion would have been drafted first if he was taller. I did not like going for Newhook either. A speedy forward yes, but lacks finishing and consistency. I thought it was a bad move to trade two picks for him. Not drafting Michkov was a mistake. It’s your job to make it appealing to play for Montreal and do everything it takes for him to stay. Worst case scenario, he ends up leaving but gave you great hockey for a few years, best case scenario he enjoys it here and stay. Leonard was also available and drafting Reinbacher, a player with a history of injuries to knees before the draft, was putting him up for harsh criticism by the fans and up for comparison for the rest of his career. He might end up being injured all the time and not be an impact player and not make the team. Those are all possibilities. He might end up being an impact right shot D, but still leave less of an impact than Michkov. Choosing Reinbacher over Michkov and Leonard always made me think about trading Taylor Hall for Adam Larson. A terrible trade. This year they got lucky with Demidov and let’s hope he’s as good as he’s expected to be otherwise this rebuild could be very long. St-Louis is also not a good coach as far as I’m concerned and they are better options out there. I’ll get hate for this I’m sure but I just don’t understand what the administration is doing. Montreal has to stop being so afraid of superstars and players with personalities and start taking risks and pick talent over anything else, that’s how you win in sport, by having the best players available, not just by selecting the best attitude… Attitude is important but it’s not everything. Thanx for the video :)
u forgot barron for lekkonen they got the kulak and monahan trade right thats about it....and they drafted haft decent other than those formentioned mess ups GREAT TAKE
I’m of the Moneyball philosophy, “If you don’t win the last game of the season who cares”. If they can take another game changing player then I do not care if they tank again. This team is filled with rookies or players with limited experience so debacles are going to continue until we have a really good team with a legitimate superstar.
Impatience is not a virtue nor a strategy. There are at most 5-6 players in the roster currently that will be part of a future winning team (Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Hutson, Guhle, maybe Laine if he sticks around, and role players like Xhekaj), so the current team as it is hardly matters. Gally, Anderson, Dvorak, Dach, Newhook, Armia, Savard, Matheson, Barron, Struble, Evans (probably) will ALL be gone or retired. Their play only serves as temporary entertainment, and hopefully setting an example for young players. They could use another good draft pick. Yes, it takes a long time, yes, I am frustrated in the way they play. But losing patience will create another mid team like the ones we've had for almost 30 years. Delayed gratification improves our chances for a better future.
We 💯 need a top 4 Pick. Wtf As long as Marty us our coach this is gonna be the theme. Fonal answer... top 4 Pick. Fire the coach, big off season and start fresh next year.
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im enjoying watching them lose now....i got a new rule that went u mess up a top 5 pick i tune u out until u get fired..i did it twcie i realize but i hadnt created the rule yet and i was doing good stuff in between these clowns are messing up left and right and no 1 is even attacking them...is not messing up top 5 pick too much too ask?reinbacher torn both his acls since that draft ...hes no longer gone b good
The truth is Montreal has so many holes they need some more young talent. Another top3 would be good. They are but making the playoffs for another 2-3 years anyway
They need a superstar, a 1D and a real number 1 goalie. In 2yrs if Reinbacher is playing 24min a night and Demidov is the man and then Fowler…we might be cooking with gasoline
You might not be able to do it again but I’m hoping that they do. Too many holes to fill. Making the playoffs for what? Participation ribbon? Berg era is over. I left that behind
I will tell you what Hughes is, he is a used cars salesman that has the molsons and most habs fans convinced he knows what he is doing . He is selling them a ford car with no engine or transmission in it for the same price as a bugatti
Wrong draft to tank in , again. Last year or the year before would of bin ok, mind you 2 yrs ago we had a chance to take best player in the draft amd passed on him for reinbacher.... next years draft would be good to tank...this year is not a good year to win the draft
They need a superstar, a 1D and a real number 1 goalie. In 2yrs if Reinbacher is playing 24min a night and Demidov is the man and then Fowler…we might be cooking with gasoline
I am not sure of that...but Matthew Schaefer is only 17 yrs old and will be a futur superstar left defenseman. He will surely be first overall unless Hagens wakes up and finishes really strong. However, I agree for the 4 forwards top5 in the 2025 draft which might not be as good as the 2023 and the 2024 draft. It is the job of a GM to weaken his team during a rebuild so he is in a position to draft high end talent. Hughes still got lucky to get Demidov at 5th...likely because of the russian factor !!!
@powers1500 we need another left handed dman ?? What does it do for us , hughes was to stupid to trade matheson away last year when he was worth a top 6 forward as it is , on top of that the dumb fuck kept barron over kovacevic. How is there room for schaffer in montreal???
@powers1500 how many picks prospects and kids do we need??? Time to start packing them for legit nhlers cus right now we dont have many at all , bunch of plugs
@@CanadianBiPolarBear Montreal absolutely needs to draft a top#1 defenseman...they haven't one in the pipeline. Furthermore, they also need to draft another high end forward. I agree with the snake Boisvert who said that Montreal will become a genuine cup contender the day Caufield and Suzuki will play on the second line. That means to me a top line with Demidov, Slaf and likey a center to be drafted...time will tell 👍
Lets not forget. Next year we will have 3 more top 5 picks in our line up potentially with this years, Demidov and Reinbacher. Our team will look a whole lot different with a lot more talent
Phily was willing to pay for Mitchkov to come over and Montreal wasn't. Do you believe Mitchkov paid his team with his own money? The NHL does not want the KHL to Demand money for every Russian player drafted. Montreal was afraid of cosequences from the league and Phily were willing to take the risk.
lets let Reinbacher play a few games (200) before we can truly judge him.... we are drafting 18yr olds and expect them to rip up the league before they play a shift.... 18....
they are tanking organically, the roster blows, you have a few decent pieces, best talent is in college and russia, they play 5 LD everynight, 2 always on the wrong side and have avg at best goaltending, what do people expect is going to happen, still 2 more years of pain
Montreal only wants poster boy to talk in center ice after a victory… Michkov doesn’t have this profile. Plain and simple… Montreal is the issue again and again
Since Gorton hired Bobrov, Montreal has drafted 3 european players with their first picks. Bobrov is known to like foreigh players...but that got him fired out of New-York because of very bad picks !!!
Games like 9 to 2 are not acceptable at a time. Management has a need to put a decent product on the ice. This is damaging for all involved. Enuff rebuild crap do your job.
What a horrible take, this guy wants a team that fights for a playoff spot like we’ve been doing the past 30 years. We need to tank for another 2-3 years minimum we need talent and top 3 drafts. Rebuild takes 5-6 years at least, nobody rebuilds in 3 years. The plan is a rebuild not a patching job. We just started the growing pains. Our first line should be our second line when we will be ready to be a contender. It’s going to be a long time get use to it
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Great takes. A lot of selective memory in fan base on whole MM situation pre-draft. A season like this with wild swings in performance gives fans with the benefit of 20:20 hindsight lots of talking points. Sadly, these same fans could crush Demidov with expectations far beyond what a 20 year old should be expected to deliver. Cheers!
Demidov 100pts coming HOT!!
Only 100? That’s no fan-boy take.
This was an excellent episode
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I heard that Mitchkov's father (who he was quite close to) was a Flyers fan and that Mitchkov wanted to honour that. I cannot verify that though
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Here’s my super unpopular opinion on Montreal’s rebuild lol I’m not a fan of what Hughes and Gorton has done.
I did not like Slaf pick although he seems like a great kid. I would have preferred Cooley who clearly was the most skilled player of that draft. I did not like the trade for Kirby Dach, an unproven player who had been injured a lot already and with the 13th pick, they could have picked Frank Nazar who in my opinion would have been drafted first if he was taller.
I did not like going for Newhook either. A speedy forward yes, but lacks finishing and consistency. I thought it was a bad move to trade two picks for him.
Not drafting Michkov was a mistake. It’s your job to make it appealing to play for Montreal and do everything it takes for him to stay. Worst case scenario, he ends up leaving but gave you great hockey for a few years, best case scenario he enjoys it here and stay. Leonard was also available and drafting Reinbacher, a player with a history of injuries to knees before the draft, was putting him up for harsh criticism by the fans and up for comparison for the rest of his career. He might end up being injured all the time and not be an impact player and not make the team. Those are all possibilities. He might end up being an impact right shot D, but still leave less of an impact than Michkov. Choosing Reinbacher over Michkov and Leonard always made me think about trading Taylor Hall for Adam Larson. A terrible trade.
This year they got lucky with Demidov and let’s hope he’s as good as he’s expected to be otherwise this rebuild could be very long.
St-Louis is also not a good coach as far as I’m concerned and they are better options out there.
I’ll get hate for this I’m sure but I just don’t understand what the administration is doing. Montreal has to stop being so afraid of superstars and players with personalities and start taking risks and pick talent over anything else, that’s how you win in sport, by having the best players available, not just by selecting the best attitude… Attitude is important but it’s not everything.
Thanx for the video :)
Great breakdown! Respect the take👊🏻
u forgot barron for lekkonen they got the kulak and monahan trade right thats about it....and they drafted haft decent other than those formentioned mess ups GREAT TAKE
I’m of the Moneyball philosophy, “If you don’t win the last game of the season who cares”. If they can take another game changing player then I do not care if they tank again. This team is filled with rookies or players with limited experience so debacles are going to continue until we have a really good team with a legitimate superstar.
Glenn, I am a huge fan of that line!
Impatience is not a virtue nor a strategy. There are at most 5-6 players in the roster currently that will be part of a future winning team (Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Hutson, Guhle, maybe Laine if he sticks around, and role players like Xhekaj), so the current team as it is hardly matters. Gally, Anderson, Dvorak, Dach, Newhook, Armia, Savard, Matheson, Barron, Struble, Evans (probably) will ALL be gone or retired. Their play only serves as temporary entertainment, and hopefully setting an example for young players. They could use another good draft pick. Yes, it takes a long time, yes, I am frustrated in the way they play. But losing patience will create another mid team like the ones we've had for almost 30 years. Delayed gratification improves our chances for a better future.
Great comment👊🏻
who knew that "in the mix" meant another shot at the # 1 overall pick
sigh...not a fan and I wanted more than fighting for a number 1 again
Yes
So it seems likely
January schedule is tough , they will be lucky to win 2 games , by then they are out of race .Top 10 pick for sure !
Well said! Why I thought this 5 game window was big for their morale.
Rebuild fatigue. .. make a trade early promote from within?
Wait for January something brewing
Michkov wanted to go to Philly bc of the Rocky movies
I WANNA go to Philly cause of the Rocky Movies
на самом деле Мичков отказал только Анахайму и Аризоне. Монреаль сами прошли мимо него
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We 💯 need a top 4 Pick. Wtf
As long as Marty us our coach this is gonna be the theme. Fonal answer... top 4 Pick. Fire the coach, big off season and start fresh next year.
Skewing again to another bottom 5 pick
Schaeffer, Hagens and Misa could solidify this team to contention@@shaunstarr
im enjoying watching them lose now....i got a new rule that went u mess up a top 5 pick i tune u out until u get fired..i did it twcie i realize but i hadnt created the rule yet and i was doing good stuff in between these clowns are messing up left and right and no 1 is even attacking them...is not messing up top 5 pick too much too ask?reinbacher torn both his acls since that draft ...hes no longer gone b good
Marc!!! It’s an honor. Hope you’re still lifting heavy without a spotter you big muscle man👊🏻
The truth is Montreal has so many holes they need some more young talent. Another top3 would be good. They are but making the playoffs for another 2-3 years anyway
They need a superstar, a 1D and a real number 1 goalie. In 2yrs if Reinbacher is playing 24min a night and Demidov is the man and then Fowler…we might be cooking with gasoline
You might not be able to do it again but I’m hoping that they do. Too many holes to fill. Making the playoffs for what? Participation ribbon? Berg era is over. I left that behind
Agreed, Pana. Dont sell me on just getting in. I want it all the way. Thats what she said
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I will tell you what Hughes is, he is a used cars salesman that has the molsons and most habs fans convinced he knows what he is doing . He is selling them a ford car with no engine or transmission in it for the same price as a bugatti
No trade will help now.Next year will be better.Dont sell the yet
i expect movement in January
Wrong draft to tank in , again. Last year or the year before would of bin ok, mind you 2 yrs ago we had a chance to take best player in the draft amd passed on him for reinbacher.... next years draft would be good to tank...this year is not a good year to win the draft
They need a superstar, a 1D and a real number 1 goalie. In 2yrs if Reinbacher is playing 24min a night and Demidov is the man and then Fowler…we might be cooking with gasoline
I am not sure of that...but Matthew Schaefer is only 17 yrs old and will be a futur superstar left defenseman. He will surely be first overall unless Hagens wakes up and finishes really strong. However, I agree for the 4 forwards top5 in the 2025 draft which might not be as good as the 2023 and the 2024 draft. It is the job of a GM to weaken his team during a rebuild so he is in a position to draft high end talent. Hughes still got lucky to get Demidov at 5th...likely because of the russian factor !!!
@powers1500 we need another left handed dman ?? What does it do for us , hughes was to stupid to trade matheson away last year when he was worth a top 6 forward as it is , on top of that the dumb fuck kept barron over kovacevic. How is there room for schaffer in montreal???
@powers1500 how many picks prospects and kids do we need??? Time to start packing them for legit nhlers cus right now we dont have many at all , bunch of plugs
@@CanadianBiPolarBear Montreal absolutely needs to draft a top#1 defenseman...they haven't one in the pipeline. Furthermore, they also need to draft another high end forward. I agree with the snake Boisvert who said that Montreal will become a genuine cup contender the day Caufield and Suzuki will play on the second line. That means to me a top line with Demidov, Slaf and likey a center to be drafted...time will tell 👍
Lets not forget. Next year we will have 3 more top 5 picks in our line up potentially with this years, Demidov and Reinbacher. Our team will look a whole lot different with a lot more talent
let's goo
I'm not sold to Reinbacher.
Lets see by 2027
@@mamagne800 Reinbacker was a horrible pick!
@@rogerbutchbouchard8019maybe not the best pick, but not a horrible pick.
Phily was willing to pay for Mitchkov to come over and Montreal wasn't. Do you believe Mitchkov paid his team with his own money?
The NHL does not want the KHL to
Demand money for every Russian player drafted. Montreal was afraid of cosequences from the league and Phily were willing to take the risk.
MTL wasn’t gonna pay for Demidov to come early so you’re right
lets let Reinbacher play a few games (200) before we can truly judge him.... we are drafting 18yr olds and expect them to rip up the league before they play a shift.... 18....
THANK YOU!! All the hate Slaf gets is not fair. Thursday was game 147 of his career.
@@shaunstarrIT also wasnt fair to give him a 60M $ Contract
they are tanking organically, the roster blows, you have a few decent pieces, best talent is in college and russia, they play 5 LD everynight, 2 always on the wrong side and have avg at best goaltending, what do people expect is going to happen, still 2 more years of pain
this is a strong comment!!
Montreal only wants poster boy to talk in center ice after a victory… Michkov doesn’t have this profile.
Plain and simple…
Montreal is the issue again and again
Since Gorton hired Bobrov, Montreal has drafted 3 european players with their first picks. Bobrov is known to like foreigh players...but that got him fired out of New-York because of very bad picks !!!
@ totally bobrov resume is bad… and Lapointe is not better.
I believe Demidov is gonna be a rock star here 👊🏻
The problem is Slafbustsky And his lazy ass that were not in the mix. He is supposed to pull his own weight and he is not.
😂😂 Slafbustsky….you got me. That’s a good one
@shaunstarr his name weirdly rhymes with alot of stuff hes good at. Like Slafloatsky or slafraudsky. You get the point
Games like 9 to 2 are not acceptable at a time. Management has a need to put a decent product on the ice. This is damaging for all involved. Enuff rebuild crap do your job.
The inability to stop the bleeding after one mistake is baffling
Sell the deadweight. Anderson, Dvorak , MAthesone, Savard all need to go.
Anderson is playing well and hope it's strong enough to be attractive to another team
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What a horrible take, this guy wants a team that fights for a playoff spot like we’ve been doing the past 30 years. We need to tank for another 2-3 years minimum we need talent and top 3 drafts. Rebuild takes 5-6 years at least, nobody rebuilds in 3 years. The plan is a rebuild not a patching job. We just started the growing pains. Our first line should be our second line when we will be ready to be a contender. It’s going to be a long time get use to it
They need a superstar, a number 1 D and goalie. Wanna win a cup? They a need a superstar and I think they’re banking on that guy being Demidov