Aside from their Semblances, Neo and Emerald would make an excellent team as physical combatants. In close quarters, Neo focuses on using the opponent’s momentum against them and countering while Emerald can attack from a distance and cover her, making them very viable in battle
imagine these 2 forms a team, illusion in illusion, it's basically what aizen said "when did you think that I wasn't using my kyokasuigetsu?" it's like, you thought you hit neo, but all you hit is neo's clone, and it's under emerald's illusion, so you can't see the shattering effect. or vice versa, you actually hit neo and send her flying, but emerald just creates the effect of neo being shattered thus tricking you into thinking you actually hit a clone so you don't chase after neo and perform a combo illusion abilities are hax as hell man
Hm here’s something to think about, Neo and Emerald do break away. However, I think Penny’s eye turning red in the opening could mean something deeper. I think with her reality breaking, and the attempt by Watts at hacking her she will just go off on her own to think things over. Neo and Emerald will tag along with Penny as sort of a quest to find themselves. It does make sense, they are all lost and need to find out who they really are.
@@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 I mean penny wouldn't just join the people that were probably introduced to her as villains without them persuading her and maybe lying to her.
i would guess emerald reminds hazel of his sister. i can see hazel sacrificing himself to get emerald (and neo) out of the whale and into hiding...hazel dying saving emerald, who he would see as his sister, would be a good fit for him. i can't imagine him living past this because he is too full of doubt and most likely would rather die than live with the knowledge of all he'd done. either neo tries killing cinder as she and neo escape, or emerald convinces neo to work temporarily with the heros and in the fight, neo sneaks her way over to cinder for a fight and uses her and emerald's semblances to finally stab cinder in the back, literally...but of course cinder won't even die because she never will :\ i'd want ruby and jaune to tag team cinder and kill her together, but there's also neo and raven who could have a shot at killing her if they had the chance. i seriously want raven and penny (as winter maiden) to team up on cinder. 2 maidens vs 1.
Oh hell, you know what? Maybe, especially since it's hypothesized that Torchwick is inspired by the Pinnochio character LAMPwick, who is one of the children turned into donkeys and losing their humanity (though in the movie we clearly see that not all of them COMPLETELY lose their humanity, but that's besides the point). This COULD be correlated to that in some way.
@@i_am_jarvistm7220 ;-; he's able to speak AND Salem stated that the hound was just a test along with people pointing out Cinder's arm/grim side is clearly going to cause her problems.
That Hound is gonna approach Neo sniff her and then say her name. This causes Neo to break down and causes her to leave the faction (at the right time). Emerald and Hazel goes to comfort Neo and they begin to plan an escape plan with Hazel being heavily injured and tanking the fall after escaping the Whale dying shortly after leaving Neo and Emerald to seek aid from people who barely trust them but better than having people to don't care about them.
I’m gonna say this again because I think it fits more in this video If I May the hound may be Roman in some shape or form With atlas’s focus on Pinocchio with penny peatro and the whale it’s only fitting that the only other character based on the Pinocchio story. Plus The character Roman is based on got turned into a donkey in the original story (or at least the Disney adaptation) Plus it would add more incentive to Neo stabbing cinder in the back and or leaving. At least that’s my theory
It would be very interesting to see how that turned out, but I don't think RT would bring him back, even that much. They didn't seem to like him much. I mean, they didn't even let him finish his speech before he got fed to the Grimm. Truly a shame. At least his hat survived.
@@thatskeletonguy7607 Truly, CRWBY originally planned Roman to last much less that he actually did, which was only because the fandom took a considerable liking to him. If for some reason however, he turns out to be the hound then that's definitely a pretty strong reason for Neo to, at least, cut ties with Salem and company, including Cinder. Although, I personally think that the hound is just a really advanced creation of Salem and isn't some other character, as that would take away some of the interest from the grimm, which until now were a mere fodder.
I actually wonder if Emerald and Neo might save Oscar, seeing Salem put a young boy in a huge amount of pain may make Emerald go over the edge and she may want to save this boy she doesn't know. It would get Emerald and Neo in the good graces of team RWBY and while Neo may not care about getting on Ruby's good side. I actually would like Neo and Emerald to join the good guys because having an anti-hero would be a nice addition to the teams.
I rather see them listening Salem and Ozpin talk and realize more about the shit that is going on and then decide to free Oscar and bring him back to RWBY & co
@@orangemarissa50 I think it's pretty likely, although I imagine Ozpin might have some way to give Oscar a resistance (something like "true sight" maybe) or intervene in some other way.
One look at the thumbnail made me realize that Neo and Emerald would be one scary duo to fight against, both having a semblance that'll fuck with your head.
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Emerald and Neo are two of my most favourite characters in this series. I hope so much for their redemption, at least for one of them. I don't know if they could join Team RWBY but if they do, I hope they can make up for their past mistakes. Like Neo saving Yang's life to make up for almost killing her. I don't care if Emerald and Neo "aren't exactly on the right side". Some people can change or move from a black to a gray area. I would love to see their path leading them to reconciliation with Team RWBY and joining them in their fight against Salem.
It is fascinating that what Blake said to Nora in ep3 seems to be one of the central themes of this volume. Blake said something like: "When you spend so much time with someone, they become a part of you, but that's just it, a part. You have to figure out who the rest is" or something similar. This is aimed at Nora, yes, with the question being who Nora is without Ren, but it applies to so many other characters as well. Most obvious is Ren, who is he without Nora, but this is something we'll see a lot of for others too, I think. Who is Emerald without Cinder? Who is Neo without Roman? Even now she exist around Roman, for the purpose of avenging him. And Cinder, she said to Salem "Without you, I am nothing". Who are the Happy Huntresses without Robyn? The Ace Ops without Clover? Or if we turn it around a bit, Oscar had started to become his own person, but now with Ozpin back they will, as Blake said, spend a long time together and become part of one another. It will be interesting as well to see it this is going to apply to Salem as well, who is she without her faction? If they all die or deflect, can she continue as she has up until now? She might be powerful, but she wouldn't have gotten this far without them and their skills.
There's one thing you didn't really bring up: Emerald is the reason Penny died the first time. In a way, she's also partly responsible for Pyrrha's death. I feel like several of the good guys would likely have a hard time getting over that easily, possibly even Penny and Ruby themselves. And given how much Jaune evidently hates Cinder, I don't imagine him having an incredibly high opinion of Emeral either. Neo also murdered the entire crew of an Atlesian capital ship, which set up the circumstances for the entirety of the rest of the fleet above Vale to get shot down. While the main cast may be *relatively* willing to set hundreds if not thousands of deaths aside, nevermind the ammount of innocnets who died when those ships could have saved them, Ironwood's gonna be out for blood on that.
I agree with everything except Emerald being responsible for Pyrrha's death just because I don't think it was directly her fault but by association sure I guess....
Roman could be the human base of the Hound. Neo learning that Roman was turned into the hound is probably the most logical way that Neo loses her grudge against Ruby.
Salem will Understand what Drives Neo to make Ruby pay and Salem needs Ruby so She'll make a deal with Her if Neo Doesn't kill Ruby she'll bring back Torchwick
There's no way Neo actually believes Cinder when it comes to Roman's death being Ruby's fault lol, Neo probably just realized she can't counter Cinder's maiden powers directly
A fair, fun and solid video with a lot of entertaining avenues for the characters to go down, kudos. Aside, I always think its worth remembering Neo went for Cinder & only Ruby after Cinder proved too hard to kill.
I’m hoping neo, emerald and penny can free Oscar from Salem along with stealing the lamp and getting the staff. Actually I wonder who’s are to get the staff and if it’s Salem... what is she going to do with it?
If Emerald and Neo escape, I can see them hide out in the city. Emerald freaking out because she went against Cinder. She looks at Neo who appears calm and focused. Emerald would try to get to know Neo. Neo would then give her backstory (flashback or she speaks). They both realize they are the same person and become partners. They (kinda) join RWBY and Company to save the world. My theory.
The problem I have with the Roman Torchwick theory of he's alive and hiding is that he clearly got swallowed whole by a Grimm Griffin, which he was not expecting and then Ruby used her semblance to kick said Griffin into the intake engine of a military ship which exploded the said griffin, so even if Roman somehow escaped the explosion and the digestive juices of a Griffin after being swallowed whole and alive, his aura would've break at that point (if he had one, we were never shown if he had an aura or semblance) and not to mention that he would be plummeting towards the ground and crash landed with such impact that the only way he can be alive at this point... is Salem doing magical experiments on his broken, tattered, destroyed, soul or whatever remained of his body after The Battle of Beacon.
Nice theory but i counter this with another: Emerald is based on Alladin and right now she's at the cave with Salem the genie who can grant 3 wishes (just like she granted Cinder's 3 wishes). She just needs to find out how to rub the lamp.
Spumoni getting a redemption arc is something I’m here for just because someone got you off the streets or is helping you with some other goal, doesn’t mean that they actually need you. Like Cinder’s weapons Midnight and her maiden swords: once you are broken you are easily replaceable you mustn’t think only do as you are told without question
I also believe that penny will “die” once more and it will push peitro to give her the rest of his aura and then he’ll die obviously the reason I think and want penny to “die” is so that the winter maiden powers can be passed to someone else I think the power is too much for penny and it would be cool to have Weiss be the winter maiden
I feel like were ignoring mercury's aliances. He only joined cinder because 'it felt right' and he already showed emerald that she dosen't care. It just a matter of time before the four of them leave together with time.
There are parts I agree in this video. Emerald and Neo finding some common ground other than being unappreciated by Cinder, leaving Salem's faction, and running away together to become a criminal illusionist duo. But I also have some theories about their part within the Atlas arc. Before defecting from Cinder and Salem, I figure they'll help out team RWBY in the last moment. Like maybe help Oscar and Penny escape from captivity, retrieve the relics under Salem's clutches, or use their semblances to distract Salem in order to give them the upper hand. It's kind of like a redemption thing for them since they were swayed into the bad side for the wrong reasons. I agree that they're not the good guys due to their past actions and grudges against the main characters. But at least, they should do one good thing in this volume to make up for their mistakes
I'm surprised cinder didn't have neo disguise as her so rwby's eyes start to seem unreliable. I imagine rwby would freak out and overthink the hell out of it! XD
Emerald was called street rat by Mercury. When I hear that I always think of Aladdin. The great whale could also be like the Cave of Wonders. The lamb is now in Salem's grasp. Aladdin and the Lamp always go hand in hand. There is only one question left. That question I think is going to go to Emerald. I think the lamp is going to be taken by Emerald and Neo and that it will be RWBY or penny who will combine the creation and knowledge relics.
Fun fact, Emerald and Neo have been on the same team before. AAAALLLLL the way back in volume 3. They were a four man team with Cinder, Mercury, Emerald and Neo as team CMEN xD. To be fair it was only briefly on screen before Mercury and Emerald advanced to the doubles round xD.
If Neo and Emerald team up to run away (and I think steal the Lamp of Knowledge), I guess they will be chased and I wonder who will. Maybe Tyrian, that would make an awesome fight. Cinder might be the one sent to clean up the mess she caused by bringing them but I wonder if Salem will consider Cinder as reliable after that. It might be Mercury's gauntlet to be sent after former teammates, escorted by Hazel.
Small reminder, the two gods said that once the four relics are brought together, they will be summoned once again. which will then be the "test of humanity" and they'll see if humanity was united into one. And that if they failed to accomplish this, it will be their Doom. If I remember correctly. The relics are a test. . Salem don't want the gods for power or anything. She just want to destroy all of humanity, which the gods will do if they are summoned while humanity is at war with each others. But she MAY also try to take on them after that. . *Also go go Neo and emerald to team RWBY!! We need anti heroes!*
Another reason why Emerald probably can never join up with the good guys is that her semblance is literally responsible for Yang's disgrace in the tournament as well as Penny 1.0 death which was the direct catalyst to trigger the fall of Beacon which lead to Pyrrha's death and much pain and suffering all around. I think it would be very hard to write Emerald into a good guy after that short of a heroic sacrifice, but she doesn't strike me as the type that would sacrifice herself for the greater good. As you said she's a criminal at the end of the day, and a street rat who knows how to look out for herself and survive. I'm really looking forward to the possible "3rd faction" (or I guess 4th now that Ironwood and co have split off into their own thing as well). That would add a lot of complexity to the story which could be really fun. A temporary alliance with Penny would also be really cool. Maybe if Penny gets hacked and ends up doing bad things and causing the good guys to doubt her that could serve as a reason for her to fall in with the "not-quite-as-bad guys" for a while as she figures out how to come back from whatever may happen in V8. Spending time with Neo and Emerald could go a long way for Penny to rapidly learn and grow as a character. She's technically so young and has spent her entire existence around a vary small group of people with very specific goals and values. Spending some time with thieves and mercenaries after being exiled from the home and family she has known all her life would rapidly open her eyes to the world and teach her so much. By the same token if there is to be any hope for a redemption arc for Emerald (which I remain skeptical of) certainly spending time with a pure and innocent soul like Penny could be the sort of thing that might change Emerald enough to allow her to actually do something later worthy of being redeemed. Also wouldn't it be interesting if Penny, while traveling with Emerald, learns that her 'death' was caused by Emerald's semblance and chooses to forgive her? I'm starting to think a Neo, Penny, Emerald arc has enough drama and intrigue to be its own spin-off show at this point, haha. I am pretty on-board with the Torchwick might not be dead theory. Personally I don't think we'll see him this volume though. My theory is that if Torchwick is alive we'll see him when we go to Vacuo. That seems like the prime spot for a criminal mastermind to retreat to in order to hide from Cinder/Salem and recover after accidentally faking his own death, I think.
Yeah you have a point, but...technically that's all Cinder's fault since she was the one who gave those orders. You'd have to remember that Emerald is just a street rat and she doesn't really have that much of a choice
I hope that Jaune and Neo end up meeting again and, somehow, 'talk' about how revenge only leads to your own destruction... i.e. Jaune finding out she's here to kill Ruby and blowing up at her, demanding to know just what Ruby did to deserve this and explaining how DIDN'T kill Roman, that she's wasting her life living for revenge. I'm not really good at explaining this but they BOTH lost so much that night all those seasons ago. They lost the one person that meant the world to them, they both suffered so badly with the guilt/pain of this loss. Jaune had his friends though, to help him through his pain, Neo? She... had no one. While I agree she probably won't become a good guy, I really want to see Jaune get through to her at least a little.
Wasn’t gonna lie I thought u meant “freedom” like they both make it seeem like cinder is free from Salem and she could do whatever she wanted and by doing that Salem would be there watching cinder think she was somehow dead. That’s when they make their escape and when they leave cinder is faced with Salem just there looking at her
hey I recently saw your oc videos and love them and was wondering witch one is next as I have a idea for a semblance but I have no idea if it is to good
It would honestly be very surprising if Neo and Emerald stayed in Salem's faction for the entire series. When I think of Salem's crew I think about the colors they have being very dull in their scheme; and Neo and Emerald's color scheme while slightly dull is still a lot more vibrant then the other members of the faction.
As sweet as it would be for Hazel to die protecting Emerald and Neo as some sort of atonement for not protecting his sister, I feel like killing him would be kind of a waste of his character. That said, I don't know what more they can do with his character.
If neo and emerald were to join the good guys, I think they both would head to amity colosseum and ask penny for help or warn her about what's salem is planning, a factor that might help penny not see them as hostile is that penny does not know who neo or emerald is, I doubt she'll know that emerald was the one responsible for her death in beacon, I dunno the possibilities of what's gonna happen in this volume are endless
Great theory! Now Neo doesn't like Cinder cause she's taking credit once again and Emerald sees Cinder for what she is. Come to think of it, you're right. Cinder isn't a great warrior despite her maiden powers. She always needs assistance to complete her goal.
Considering Tyrian's threat to Emerald and Mercury at the end of Volume 6, if Emerald leaves Salem's faction it would be after Qrow and Robin murder Tyrian. I don't think Hazel would have a problem with them leaving and Watts would probably see it as "good riddance."
I can see them at least trying to leave Salem, but it begs the question, where can they go if they succeed in leaving? Emerald isn't a bad person, she just wants to find her place in the world where she belongs and she's infatuated with Cinder because she gave her this. (To be fair, Cinder loves Emerald too. Although it's in the same way as people love Paper Towels, they clean up your messes and they're disposable afterwards) but in her infatuation, she did many terrible things. Things that society won't forget she was a part of. She'll be back on the streets. Her actions led to the Fall of Beacon, something that scarred some people (Jaune). Let's put it this way, Ruby COULD probably forgive her and welcome Emerald into her ever growing squad, but the others... not so much. Neo is out for blood and would leave because she's denied it. Since Salem doesn't want Ruby dead, that makes Neo a rival and a possible threat to this tangent. If they try anything to escape and Salem see's this as a threat, they're probably not leaving that Whale alive. If they do escape, they'll always be on the run from Salem if she feels they know too much and are a danger to her plans with them out in the world with her secrets.
I like your theory video about them, from what I saw you don’t like Cinder and you like Neopolitan. I think this volume is about distrust. All the villains United behind Salem at the beginning means for me that they won’t be united at the end of the Volume. Let’s talk about them: Salem: she’s very passive and she is not very strong without lackeys doing her plans so I’ll be not surprised if many will leave. She looks like she is destined to be the evil stepmother of Cinderella so Cinder will leave her. Arthur and Tyrian: they will stay loyal to Salem though I can see one them dying during Atlas’ arc. Mercury: Unless he understands that joining Salem is a bad choice he’ll be a collateral damage for the villains. Emerald: she was clear in V5, she stayed for Cinder. Unless Cinder is facing something terrible and will see that Em and Neo must be refound them to have someone Emerald will leave. Cinder: it looks she was conditioned like Salem said to be the vessel of the maidens’ powers and she is actually completely broken. Even if she is losing Em & Neo I really believe that she will want to get rid of Salem. Contrary to many viewers I can see since V3 she’s more humanised now and she’s doing mistakes that makes her develop better but it’s taking time since she’ has still being screwed by Salem. I think also that she was created to be Ruby archenemy and Salem cares about ozpin’s death so killing her with Neo looks not logical for what she is since V1. We’ll see what happens to her but it looks she will feel pain and a tough volume for her. Neo: a lot are showing how pissed she is about cinder but I think she will want to fight her if she’s not respecting their deal (going into atlas, finding Ruby and the rest is up to you) or she will want to attack or leave cinder because she’ll want her freedom back, she’s not interested into Salem and all. So it may be her only way to leave all of that. Hazel: I think he’ll die by Salem. In the fairytale Hansel et Gretel the two kids are alive and killed the witch. Here the sister has been killed by a Grimm (indirectly by Salem the witch) and the kids are no more together and he doesn’t enjoy what he has to do. I think he’ll be a good bad villain and he’ll do something and Salem will kill him so that the witch here will have succeeded by killing the sister and brother. I don’t think he’ll die this volume though. The next chapters will show us what may happen to the villains but I’m 99% sure that now united they will be no more united at the end of it. The theme is distrust so the heroes AND the villains will both be affected.
Roman is dead. And even if he WAS alive, there is NO way he'd be sticking his head out any time soon, especially in Solitas givin what is currently floating right above everyone.
correction; she went after cinder over that. Cinder told her ruby was responsible, and I hardly thing Neo is stupid enough to really believe that. As have recently been pointed out by yang, pretty much everything bad of late, can be put at the feet of Salem's faction....which, in terms of people Neo can do fuckall about, means Cinder.
My dream come true is Emerald and Neo working together to kill Cinder and Emerald getting the maiden powers. That would just be so amazing to me. Honestly, best case scenario thought any scenario with Neo and Em working together sounds amazing
Cinder wasn't wrong. She technically _DID_ take the lamp right from under Ironwood's nose just like she said, as it was all her plan and she would have been perfectly capable of doing it herself if she did not have to go after the Winter Maiden at the same time. Had Cinder been the one to take on Team ALPN, that fight would have been over in an instant. Cinder could have done the job of getting the Relic herself, probably even better than Neo since Cinder was able to effortlessly enter and leave Ironwood's office -- one of the most secure places in all of Atlas -- without being noticed. The ONLY reason why she had Neo do it was because she had to go off and get the Winter Maiden powers at the same time.
Way I see it, Neo, Emerald, Mercury, and even Cinder all have to GTFO or it's going to end very badly for them all. Neo's plan to kill Ruby is going to be heal faced towards Salem the second she finds out from Ruby that he was eaten by a grimm... Who controls the grimm? If she doesn't leave that moment, Salem will just tie her off as a loose end like she did Leo. Emerald is slowly seeing just how absolutely fucked her situation is. Cinder doesn't actually care for her, Salem even less so, she's obviously aware of the fact her worth is only determined by her semblance and her performance with it so far, and sooner or later will need to get out seeing as how everyone else is pressing her for having her own thoughts. Mercury... Well lets just say that trying to act all tough and sadistic around a bunch of actually tough and sadistic whack jobs only gets you so far. He's a boy trying to fill his dad's shoes, (heh) and so far they don't fit. He's got nothing special outside of his worth as a little bit of side muscle, and that is easily replaceable. The quicker he runs the better. Cinder herself... She's a broken person inside, plain and simple. Her devotion to Salem is spawned from a desire for power she never had as a clearly abused child, and that's her driving force behind every action. She doesn't see that she's being used all over again. She doesn't see that once Salem has used her to open all the vaults, she'll be discarded, after all what value is a key to a door that can only be opened once? After Salem has the Relics, she'll probably take the Maiden magic for herself, or Kill cinder with her own hand. She won't be disillusioned so easily. In order for her to see how little she means she is going to have to have that superiority complex beaten out of her, and I mean HARD. Like broken aura, fight goes on, beaten black and blue until she's crying on the floor unable to move kind of hard. She is going to have to loose harder than she ever has before. Then she's going to have to be shown mercy. Something I think nobody has ever shown her before. Maybe she lives through it, maybe she doesn't. But I always hated the "Redemption=death" trope.
Is Neo using her semblance to hide her eyes? Or was the colour change when Raven saved Yang an animation error🧐Do they want us to forget about that or will they just jump us with her possibly silver eyes?
Just a little question: Watts said in the end of episode 3 in vol8 "if you can't beat them, let them join you" (or something like that..). Is that what Roman wanted to say in vol3 right before Neo fly away? Because he also started with "if you can't beat them..". Or am I just dumb?
Honestly I doubt Mercury will go with them. As long as he sees Salem as the likely winner of the war , he’s going to side with her. But he can be redeem
Merc will likely go up in Salem ranks and replace Watts when he dies. Em and Neo will likely work with Cinder and quit her once Cinder proves she's incompetent due to arrogance.
@@BlueBlazeKing maybe he has, but j doubt it, watts is the smartest of Salem's forces. He's not done yet. Maybe by the end of season 9 he'll be dead but no way he is going down without one last hacker battle geek to geek with Pietro. As the fight for Penny's soul.
I still think that Summer is either alive or she was the former Spring Maiden. Summer being still being alive is due to the fact that unless I see a body, I'll say she's still alive. Summer being the former Spring Maiden, let me ask, if you knew that you were about to die, would you want your best friend to do it out of mercy?
Despite the things she’s done I want Emerald to be redeemed in some way. If you look in deeper, she didn’t have much choice at all. She was on the streets with nothing until Cinder took her in, and Cinder wouldn’t be likely to keep her by her side if she didn’t do what she was asked. Cinder abused Emerald for years when all she wanted was to be loved and appreciated. Plus, I’ve seen far worse characters be redeemed.
Neo and Emerald are gonna try and leave but Mercury is gonna get in their way and try and kill Emerald. Neo would then probably just in front and defend her solidifying their allegiance with each other and take him on (with the way the OP has portrayed Mercury he is on Salems side 100% so he would do something like this to show his loyalty to Salem..
Eh I'd disagree with the Mercury portion. In V6:C9, he says that he's just in it for what he can get out of it and acting 100% on Salem's side, but Tyrian instantly calls him out on that and from Mercury's reaction, I'd say that Tyrian hit pretty close to the truth. Mercury also supports Emerald when Tyrian goes all "Cinder's dead." on Emerald in V6:C4. I'd say Mercury might actually join them if they actually try leaving Team Salem, but maybe that's just me.
Hi, Phoenix. I have a theory that might make a good video. "Women of the Arc Family. I have a theory that Jaunes mother or one of his sisters is the Summer Maiden. The original Summer Maiden could have been the female ancestor of Jaune and started the family work of killing Grimm, but there would be two different roles for the boys and girls of the family. The men would go on to become huntsmen and the women become Maidens. While Jaune is the huntsmen, his mother could be the current Summer Maiden and she's putting Jaunes sisters through a series of tests to decide which one of them is the best choice to become the next Maiden when it's time for her to pass on the power. What do you think?
I wouldn't say Emerald is alone. Hazel has been looking out for her. I do think at least Neo is going to leave but think it would be interesting if she still wants to kill Ruby. I have to disagree with Roman being alive as there is no way he could have lived through any of that. Writing wise his character fulfilled his purpose and more so. He only last pass a one off character because the voice actor did such a good job.
The gods said that if they were summoned again and found humans unworthy they'd destroy the planet and end the human race. Salem craves death and hopes to summon them to be the catalyst of destruction for everything. She's not trying to kill them or face them
I think honestly neo will have a harder time leaving on account of wanting to kill cinder and being in a great position to do this, I do not know why people keep asserting neo wants to kill ruby so much that’s not the case, neo wants cinder dead far more but is aware she cannot win against her in a 1v1 she is helping cinder because it puts her in an excellent position to back stab her and allows her to take out ruby along the way as a side bonus. Killing ruby is NOT neo’s goal thst does not fit what has happened, neo wants to kill Cinder and a side benefit is killing ruby along the way. Neo had about a year to think about who she as going after for romans death she decided on cinder so I don’t think that will change easily. I think this will result in neo betraying cinder and either a putting her in a position for ruby to kill her or even better neo dying after dealing a very severe wound to cinder something that she really can’t heal that causes her to lose in the end, maybe neo snaps her knee in the fight and at the end of the series she is fighting ruby and her knee buckles causing her to falter and die
I’m calling the Neo and Emerald duo “Smoke and Mirrors”.... I’ll leave now
Fun fact in blazblue cross tag battle if you pick Blake and neo when calling neo as an assist Blake will sometimes say smoke and mirrors
I think you’re missing out on the brilliant name of Pistachio Ice cream
Aside from their Semblances, Neo and Emerald would make an excellent team as physical combatants. In close quarters, Neo focuses on using the opponent’s momentum against them and countering while Emerald can attack from a distance and cover her, making them very viable in battle
imagine these 2 forms a team, illusion in illusion, it's basically what aizen said "when did you think that I wasn't using my kyokasuigetsu?" it's like, you thought you hit neo, but all you hit is neo's clone, and it's under emerald's illusion, so you can't see the shattering effect. or vice versa, you actually hit neo and send her flying, but emerald just creates the effect of neo being shattered thus tricking you into thinking you actually hit a clone so you don't chase after neo and perform a combo
illusion abilities are hax as hell man
they’d be extremely strong as both have arguably some of the best semblances and both are very agile and witty huntresses
Penny, Neo, and Emerald join up together and become Remnant’s version of Birds of Prey
That would be awesome :3
I want that as a spin-off
Yes. Yes!
Team PEN
If you had a Y character then you could have team PENY or them ENMY (if mercury instead of penny)
Hm here’s something to think about, Neo and Emerald do break away. However, I think Penny’s eye turning red in the opening could mean something deeper. I think with her reality breaking, and the attempt by Watts at hacking her she will just go off on her own to think things over. Neo and Emerald will tag along with Penny as sort of a quest to find themselves. It does make sense, they are all lost and need to find out who they really are.
So team PEN?
@@emeraldmorgan6644 Yes
why would they join penny tho. if anything they'd manipulate her into joining them or smth
@@jungwons I mean you can look at it either way. I don’t think manipulation is the word to use though.
@@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 I mean penny wouldn't just join the people that were probably introduced to her as villains without them persuading her and maybe lying to her.
Neo, Emerald, Penny. The “Nothing You See Is Real” team
I'd call the team: "The universe is a hologram"
@@grotto185 reality is an illusion, buy gold
i would guess emerald reminds hazel of his sister. i can see hazel sacrificing himself to get emerald (and neo) out of the whale and into hiding...hazel dying saving emerald, who he would see as his sister, would be a good fit for him. i can't imagine him living past this because he is too full of doubt and most likely would rather die than live with the knowledge of all he'd done.
either neo tries killing cinder as she and neo escape, or emerald convinces neo to work temporarily with the heros and in the fight, neo sneaks her way over to cinder for a fight and uses her and emerald's semblances to finally stab cinder in the back, literally...but of course cinder won't even die because she never will :\ i'd want ruby and jaune to tag team cinder and kill her together, but there's also neo and raven who could have a shot at killing her if they had the chance. i seriously want raven and penny (as winter maiden) to team up on cinder. 2 maidens vs 1.
I wonder if the hound is Torchwick. That would turn Neo to realize how horrible they treated him. And She will truly know the real cause of his death
Oh hell, you know what? Maybe, especially since it's hypothesized that Torchwick is inspired by the Pinnochio character LAMPwick, who is one of the children turned into donkeys and losing their humanity (though in the movie we clearly see that not all of them COMPLETELY lose their humanity, but that's besides the point). This COULD be correlated to that in some way.
@@i_am_jarvistm7220 ;-; he's able to speak AND Salem stated that the hound was just a test along with people pointing out Cinder's arm/grim side is clearly going to cause her problems.
I'd rather that than Summer being the hound
@@mew2latias if Summer becomes the Hound that is going to be so dumb in my opinion so I agree
That Hound is gonna approach Neo sniff her and then say her name. This causes Neo to break down and causes her to leave the faction (at the right time). Emerald and Hazel goes to comfort Neo and they begin to plan an escape plan with Hazel being heavily injured and tanking the fall after escaping the Whale dying shortly after leaving Neo and Emerald to seek aid from people who barely trust them but better than having people to don't care about them.
I honestly would want to see Emerald and Neo getting a redemption arc regardless of their sins
Dito!
Emerald will Change the Site ... sooner or later
And Neo ... Come on RT ! I want to See a Team-Up With Yang !
Or, they can get most of the way there, then get captured by Ace Ops and executed by Ironwood.
@@yible3278 that would be Lame and illogical when you Think about there Powers
@@counthermann4702 sounds about right. At least if I expect this and something better happens it will be a nice surprise.
I’m gonna say this again because I think it fits more in this video If I May the hound may be Roman in some shape or form
With atlas’s focus on Pinocchio with penny peatro and the whale it’s only fitting that the only other character based on the Pinocchio story. Plus The character Roman is based on got turned into a donkey in the original story (or at least the Disney adaptation) Plus it would add more incentive to Neo stabbing cinder in the back and or leaving. At least that’s my theory
Roman has always called Ruby "little red"... MY GOD IT'S TRUE!!!
Roman got grimmed by mommy Salem!
It would be very interesting to see how that turned out, but I don't think RT would bring him back, even that much. They didn't seem to like him much. I mean, they didn't even let him finish his speech before he got fed to the Grimm. Truly a shame. At least his hat survived.
That makes the most sense and honestly if he c9mes back this is how
@@thatskeletonguy7607 Truly, CRWBY originally planned Roman to last much less that he actually did, which was only because the fandom took a considerable liking to him. If for some reason however, he turns out to be the hound then that's definitely a pretty strong reason for Neo to, at least, cut ties with Salem and company, including Cinder. Although, I personally think that the hound is just a really advanced creation of Salem and isn't some other character, as that would take away some of the interest from the grimm, which until now were a mere fodder.
I actually wonder if Emerald and Neo might save Oscar, seeing Salem put a young boy in a huge amount of pain may make Emerald go over the edge and she may want to save this boy she doesn't know. It would get Emerald and Neo in the good graces of team RWBY and while Neo may not care about getting on Ruby's good side. I actually would like Neo and Emerald to join the good guys because having an anti-hero would be a nice addition to the teams.
I rather see them listening Salem and Ozpin talk and realize more about the shit that is going on and then decide to free Oscar and bring him back to RWBY & co
Oh my god that would be amazing, Oscar, Em, and Neo are some of my favorite characters in Rwby and I would love if this happened.
For bit of awesome concidence there pairing would make NEO. Neo, Emerald & Oscar.
Do you think it's possible that Emerald will be used to mess with Oscar?
@@orangemarissa50 I think it's pretty likely, although I imagine Ozpin might have some way to give Oscar a resistance (something like "true sight" maybe) or intervene in some other way.
One look at the thumbnail made me realize that Neo and Emerald would be one scary duo to fight against, both having a semblance that'll fuck with your head.
Neo and Emerald Shipping Fuel! What should the ship be named? I'm going for 'Mint Ice Cream'
The official name is Spumoni.
Well... about that: www.google.com/search?tbs=simg:CAQSrwIJLdAQaXqkEXQaowILELCMpwgaYgpgCAMSKIwUhRSNFIYUixSJFI8UihS1FNIe3iOHLfEz9zP_1I4Akij3yM4Ekzz0aMJdj-UwbtPPNTslPJ-vnxiIDf_1kxa4YIZ01MDxg5i8KFZ0k_1fba7S6QqvzOwB4CoxCAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIEMqeqDwwLEJ3twQkamwEKJwoTZmljdGlvbmFsIGNoYXJhY3RlctqliPYDDAoKL20vMDJoN2xrdAoaCgdzaGFyaW5n2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wNmgxMmsKGQoGY29taWNz2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wMTJoMjQKGwoIZm9yIHRlZW7apYj2AwsKCS9hLzZxMzA2NwocCglmb3IgYWR1bHTapYj2AwsKCS9hLzkzY3dfeQw&q=rwby+neo+x+emerald&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjVivTli5vtAhVP1hoKHUPCDSsQ2A4oAXoECAYQBA&biw=360&bih=560&dpr=3#imgrc=UdZVBApEO5c0AM
Actually "Mint Ice cream" is creative, ngl
No.
Emerald and Neo are two of my most favourite characters in this series. I hope so much for their redemption, at least for one of them.
I don't know if they could join Team RWBY but if they do, I hope they can make up for their past mistakes. Like Neo saving Yang's life to make up for almost killing her.
I don't care if Emerald and Neo "aren't exactly on the right side". Some people can change or move from a black to a gray area.
I would love to see their path leading them to reconciliation with Team RWBY and joining them in their fight against Salem.
It is fascinating that what Blake said to Nora in ep3 seems to be one of the central themes of this volume. Blake said something like: "When you spend so much time with someone, they become a part of you, but that's just it, a part. You have to figure out who the rest is" or something similar. This is aimed at Nora, yes, with the question being who Nora is without Ren, but it applies to so many other characters as well. Most obvious is Ren, who is he without Nora, but this is something we'll see a lot of for others too, I think. Who is Emerald without Cinder? Who is Neo without Roman? Even now she exist around Roman, for the purpose of avenging him. And Cinder, she said to Salem "Without you, I am nothing". Who are the Happy Huntresses without Robyn? The Ace Ops without Clover? Or if we turn it around a bit, Oscar had started to become his own person, but now with Ozpin back they will, as Blake said, spend a long time together and become part of one another. It will be interesting as well to see it this is going to apply to Salem as well, who is she without her faction? If they all die or deflect, can she continue as she has up until now? She might be powerful, but she wouldn't have gotten this far without them and their skills.
Of I was a villain I would at least treat my people with respect unlike Cinder :(
There's one thing you didn't really bring up: Emerald is the reason Penny died the first time. In a way, she's also partly responsible for Pyrrha's death.
I feel like several of the good guys would likely have a hard time getting over that easily, possibly even Penny and Ruby themselves. And given how much Jaune evidently hates Cinder, I don't imagine him having an incredibly high opinion of Emeral either.
Neo also murdered the entire crew of an Atlesian capital ship, which set up the circumstances for the entirety of the rest of the fleet above Vale to get shot down. While the main cast may be *relatively* willing to set hundreds if not thousands of deaths aside, nevermind the ammount of innocnets who died when those ships could have saved them, Ironwood's gonna be out for blood on that.
I agree with everything except Emerald being responsible for Pyrrha's death just because I don't think it was directly her fault but by association sure I guess....
So if Penny joins up with Neo and Emerald , that would make them team PEN
We just need to add a girl with a name beginning with I and we have a set of team PINE
And with a PEN, you can write your own story.
@@dracowolf3212 Well if they team up with Oscar they have a couple of options like.
NOPE
OPEN
PEON
EPON
@@dracowolf3212 Most likely not gonna happen but they do have Iila Amitola, there's your I right there
Or PNE (Penny)
Roman could be the human base of the Hound. Neo learning that Roman was turned into the hound is probably the most logical way that Neo loses her grudge against Ruby.
Alright, what's all this talk that the Hound is Torchwick, or was once a human? Where did that come from?
Neo and Emerald rescue Oscar and bail. they do both have excellent semblances for escaping as you said.
Salem will Understand what Drives Neo to make Ruby pay and Salem needs Ruby so She'll make a deal with Her if Neo Doesn't kill Ruby she'll bring back Torchwick
There's no way Neo actually believes Cinder when it comes to Roman's death being Ruby's fault lol, Neo probably just realized she can't counter Cinder's maiden powers directly
A fair, fun and solid video with a lot of entertaining avenues for the characters to go down, kudos.
Aside, I always think its worth remembering Neo went for Cinder & only Ruby after Cinder proved too hard to kill.
There may be a new theme about defection going on in RWBY
I’m hoping neo, emerald and penny can free Oscar from Salem along with stealing the lamp and getting the staff.
Actually I wonder who’s are to get the staff and if it’s Salem... what is she going to do with it?
Possibly team names
NOPE
OPEN
PEON
EOPN
@@BlueBlazeKing lmao team NOPE
It would be badass to see Neo and Emerald join RWBY and co and too see a Ruby&Emerald Teammove and a Ybag&Neo teamattack
If Emerald and Neo escape, I can see them hide out in the city. Emerald freaking out because she went against Cinder. She looks at Neo who appears calm and focused. Emerald would try to get to know Neo. Neo would then give her backstory (flashback or she speaks). They both realize they are the same person and become partners. They (kinda) join RWBY and Company to save the world. My theory.
I hope to God Neo doesn't speak it's the one thing keeping CRWBY from turning her mystery into tell not shown style
The problem I have with the Roman Torchwick theory of he's alive and hiding is that he clearly got swallowed whole by a Grimm Griffin, which he was not expecting and then Ruby used her semblance to kick said Griffin into the intake engine of a military ship which exploded the said griffin, so even if Roman somehow escaped the explosion and the digestive juices of a Griffin after being swallowed whole and alive, his aura would've break at that point (if he had one, we were never shown if he had an aura or semblance) and not to mention that he would be plummeting towards the ground and crash landed with such impact that the only way he can be alive at this point... is Salem doing magical experiments on his broken, tattered, destroyed, soul or whatever remained of his body after The Battle of Beacon.
Nice theory but i counter this with another:
Emerald is based on Alladin and right now she's at the cave with Salem the genie who can grant 3 wishes (just like she granted Cinder's 3 wishes). She just needs to find out how to rub the lamp.
Phoinex I want to once again thank you, my mother has been declared cancer free and you tied up everything with another great video.
Spumoni getting a redemption arc is something I’m here for just because someone got you off the streets or is helping you with some other goal, doesn’t mean that they actually need you.
Like Cinder’s weapons Midnight and her maiden swords: once you are broken you are easily replaceable you mustn’t think only do as you are told without question
I think that hazel is going to help neo and emerald escape Salem’s faction and in doing so hazel dies by Salem’s hand 🤷🏼♂️
I also believe that penny will “die” once more and it will push peitro to give her the rest of his aura and then he’ll die obviously the reason I think and want penny to “die” is so that the winter maiden powers can be passed to someone else I think the power is too much for penny and it would be cool to have Weiss be the winter maiden
I love your theories they're so good to give authors ideas for great fan fiction.
No one else in the comments seems to have pointed it out so I will
Neo: Neapolitan Ice Cream
Emerald: Mint Chocolate Chip Ice Cream
I apologize ..
I feel like were ignoring mercury's aliances. He only joined cinder because 'it felt right' and he already showed emerald that she dosen't care. It just a matter of time before the four of them leave together with time.
There are parts I agree in this video. Emerald and Neo finding some common ground other than being unappreciated by Cinder, leaving Salem's faction, and running away together to become a criminal illusionist duo. But I also have some theories about their part within the Atlas arc. Before defecting from Cinder and Salem, I figure they'll help out team RWBY in the last moment. Like maybe help Oscar and Penny escape from captivity, retrieve the relics under Salem's clutches, or use their semblances to distract Salem in order to give them the upper hand. It's kind of like a redemption thing for them since they were swayed into the bad side for the wrong reasons. I agree that they're not the good guys due to their past actions and grudges against the main characters. But at least, they should do one good thing in this volume to make up for their mistakes
I'm surprised cinder didn't have neo disguise as her so rwby's eyes start to seem unreliable. I imagine rwby would freak out and overthink the hell out of it! XD
Those two do have a lot in Common but yeah,They've had Enough and they're out of there aka Salem's Faction.
Emerald was called street rat by Mercury. When I hear that I always think of Aladdin. The great whale could also be like the Cave of Wonders. The lamb is now in Salem's grasp. Aladdin and the Lamp always go hand in hand. There is only one question left. That question I think is going to go to Emerald. I think the lamp is going to be taken by Emerald and Neo and that it will be RWBY or penny who will combine the creation and knowledge relics.
Fun fact, Emerald and Neo have been on the same team before.
AAAALLLLL the way back in volume 3.
They were a four man team with Cinder, Mercury, Emerald and Neo as team CMEN xD. To be fair it was only briefly on screen before Mercury and Emerald advanced to the doubles round xD.
2 really overpowered semblances
I imagine Neo and Emerald find morale in each other, and I think being in a team with Penny could be cool ^^ Great video as always ^^
If Neo and Emerald team up to run away (and I think steal the Lamp of Knowledge), I guess they will be chased and I wonder who will.
Maybe Tyrian, that would make an awesome fight. Cinder might be the one sent to clean up the mess she caused by bringing them but I wonder if Salem will consider Cinder as reliable after that. It might be Mercury's gauntlet to be sent after former teammates, escorted by Hazel.
I’m guessing that Emerald was watching the fight while Neo was backstabbing Cinder in the back or to her heart, yet that’ll be hilarious
Small reminder, the two gods said that once the four relics are brought together, they will be summoned once again. which will then be the "test of humanity" and they'll see if humanity was united into one. And that if they failed to accomplish this, it will be their Doom. If I remember correctly. The relics are a test.
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Salem don't want the gods for power or anything. She just want to destroy all of humanity, which the gods will do if they are summoned while humanity is at war with each others. But she MAY also try to take on them after that.
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*Also go go Neo and emerald to team RWBY!! We need anti heroes!*
Another reason why Emerald probably can never join up with the good guys is that her semblance is literally responsible for Yang's disgrace in the tournament as well as Penny 1.0 death which was the direct catalyst to trigger the fall of Beacon which lead to Pyrrha's death and much pain and suffering all around. I think it would be very hard to write Emerald into a good guy after that short of a heroic sacrifice, but she doesn't strike me as the type that would sacrifice herself for the greater good. As you said she's a criminal at the end of the day, and a street rat who knows how to look out for herself and survive. I'm really looking forward to the possible "3rd faction" (or I guess 4th now that Ironwood and co have split off into their own thing as well). That would add a lot of complexity to the story which could be really fun.
A temporary alliance with Penny would also be really cool. Maybe if Penny gets hacked and ends up doing bad things and causing the good guys to doubt her that could serve as a reason for her to fall in with the "not-quite-as-bad guys" for a while as she figures out how to come back from whatever may happen in V8. Spending time with Neo and Emerald could go a long way for Penny to rapidly learn and grow as a character. She's technically so young and has spent her entire existence around a vary small group of people with very specific goals and values. Spending some time with thieves and mercenaries after being exiled from the home and family she has known all her life would rapidly open her eyes to the world and teach her so much.
By the same token if there is to be any hope for a redemption arc for Emerald (which I remain skeptical of) certainly spending time with a pure and innocent soul like Penny could be the sort of thing that might change Emerald enough to allow her to actually do something later worthy of being redeemed. Also wouldn't it be interesting if Penny, while traveling with Emerald, learns that her 'death' was caused by Emerald's semblance and chooses to forgive her?
I'm starting to think a Neo, Penny, Emerald arc has enough drama and intrigue to be its own spin-off show at this point, haha.
I am pretty on-board with the Torchwick might not be dead theory. Personally I don't think we'll see him this volume though. My theory is that if Torchwick is alive we'll see him when we go to Vacuo. That seems like the prime spot for a criminal mastermind to retreat to in order to hide from Cinder/Salem and recover after accidentally faking his own death, I think.
Yeah you have a point, but...technically that's all Cinder's fault since she was the one who gave those orders. You'd have to remember that Emerald is just a street rat and she doesn't really have that much of a choice
I think emerald (aladdin) will steal the relic of knowledge (genie's lamp) and leave salems faction.
I hope that Jaune and Neo end up meeting again and, somehow, 'talk' about how revenge only leads to your own destruction... i.e. Jaune finding out she's here to kill Ruby and blowing up at her, demanding to know just what Ruby did to deserve this and explaining how DIDN'T kill Roman, that she's wasting her life living for revenge.
I'm not really good at explaining this but they BOTH lost so much that night all those seasons ago.
They lost the one person that meant the world to them, they both suffered so badly with the guilt/pain of this loss.
Jaune had his friends though, to help him through his pain, Neo? She... had no one.
While I agree she probably won't become a good guy, I really want to see Jaune get through to her at least a little.
Wasn’t gonna lie I thought u meant “freedom” like they both make it seeem like cinder is free from Salem and she could do whatever she wanted and by doing that Salem would be there watching cinder think she was somehow dead. That’s when they make their escape and when they leave cinder is faced with Salem just there looking at her
Oh god. Team Genjutsu.
RWBY Team Genjutsu!
Cinder acting like this after Volume 3…………hmm
The GRIMM Arm !?
It's causing Cinder to lose her humanity
Much like how Ironwood is losing his humanity
hey I recently saw your oc videos and love them and was wondering witch one is next as I have a idea for a semblance but I have no idea if it is to good
Jaune boosting emerald's semblance in volume 8 or 9 would be fuckin wicked.
Phoenix:neo might branch off from cinder
me:dont u dare
Pheonix:and hopefully stab her in the back
me:ughhh again
Please let us see a team fight with neo and emerald this volume
Interesting theory
It would honestly be very surprising if Neo and Emerald stayed in Salem's faction for the entire series. When I think of Salem's crew I think about the colors they have being very dull in their scheme; and Neo and Emerald's color scheme while slightly dull is still a lot more vibrant then the other members of the faction.
As sweet as it would be for Hazel to die protecting Emerald and Neo as some sort of atonement for not protecting his sister, I feel like killing him would be kind of a waste of his character. That said, I don't know what more they can do with his character.
What if Roman was turned into the hound? He was taken away by a grim, maybe it took him to Salem.
If neo and emerald were to join the good guys, I think they both would head to amity colosseum and ask penny for help or warn her about what's salem is planning, a factor that might help penny not see them as hostile is that penny does not know who neo or emerald is, I doubt she'll know that emerald was the one responsible for her death in beacon, I dunno the possibilities of what's gonna happen in this volume are endless
Great theory! Now Neo doesn't like Cinder cause she's taking credit once again and Emerald sees Cinder for what she is.
Come to think of it, you're right. Cinder isn't a great warrior despite her maiden powers. She always needs assistance to complete her goal.
I agree Emerald and Neo will leave Cinder and Salem's faction.
I wonder if Emerald's semblance would even work on Penny?
Considering Tyrian's threat to Emerald and Mercury at the end of Volume 6, if Emerald leaves Salem's faction it would be after Qrow and Robin murder Tyrian. I don't think Hazel would have a problem with them leaving and Watts would probably see it as "good riddance."
I can see them at least trying to leave Salem, but it begs the question, where can they go if they succeed in leaving?
Emerald isn't a bad person, she just wants to find her place in the world where she belongs and she's infatuated with Cinder because she gave her this. (To be fair, Cinder loves Emerald too. Although it's in the same way as people love Paper Towels, they clean up your messes and they're disposable afterwards) but in her infatuation, she did many terrible things. Things that society won't forget she was a part of. She'll be back on the streets. Her actions led to the Fall of Beacon, something that scarred some people (Jaune). Let's put it this way, Ruby COULD probably forgive her and welcome Emerald into her ever growing squad, but the others... not so much.
Neo is out for blood and would leave because she's denied it. Since Salem doesn't want Ruby dead, that makes Neo a rival and a possible threat to this tangent.
If they try anything to escape and Salem see's this as a threat, they're probably not leaving that Whale alive.
If they do escape, they'll always be on the run from Salem if she feels they know too much and are a danger to her plans with them out in the world with her secrets.
Team Spumoni!!!!! I'm so excited for this!!!
It could go slightly darker, Neo manipulating Emerald with the latter's desire to be appreciated.
I like your theory video about them, from what I saw you don’t like Cinder and you like Neopolitan.
I think this volume is about distrust. All the villains United behind Salem at the beginning means for me that they won’t be united at the end of the Volume. Let’s talk about them:
Salem: she’s very passive and she is not very strong without lackeys doing her plans so I’ll be not surprised if many will leave. She looks like she is destined to be the evil stepmother of Cinderella so Cinder will leave her.
Arthur and Tyrian: they will stay loyal to Salem though I can see one them dying during Atlas’ arc.
Mercury: Unless he understands that joining Salem is a bad choice he’ll be a collateral damage for the villains.
Emerald: she was clear in V5, she stayed for Cinder. Unless Cinder is facing something terrible and will see that Em and Neo must be refound them to have someone Emerald will leave.
Cinder: it looks she was conditioned like Salem said to be the vessel of the maidens’ powers and she is actually completely broken. Even if she is losing Em & Neo I really believe that she will want to get rid of Salem. Contrary to many viewers I can see since V3 she’s more humanised now and she’s doing mistakes that makes her develop better but it’s taking time since she’ has still being screwed by Salem. I think also that she was created to be Ruby archenemy and Salem cares about ozpin’s death so killing her with Neo looks not logical for what she is since V1. We’ll see what happens to her but it looks she will feel pain and a tough volume for her.
Neo: a lot are showing how pissed she is about cinder but I think she will want to fight her if she’s not respecting their deal (going into atlas, finding Ruby and the rest is up to you) or she will want to attack or leave cinder because she’ll want her freedom back, she’s not interested into Salem and all. So it may be her only way to leave all of that.
Hazel: I think he’ll die by Salem. In the fairytale Hansel et Gretel the two kids are alive and killed the witch. Here the sister has been killed by a Grimm (indirectly by Salem the witch) and the kids are no more together and he doesn’t enjoy what he has to do. I think he’ll be a good bad villain and he’ll do something and Salem will kill him so that the witch here will have succeeded by killing the sister and brother. I don’t think he’ll die this volume though.
The next chapters will show us what may happen to the villains but I’m 99% sure that now united they will be no more united at the end of it. The theme is distrust so the heroes AND the villains will both be affected.
i would love to see Neo and Emerald work together
Roman is dead.
And even if he WAS alive, there is NO way he'd be sticking his head out any time soon, especially in Solitas givin what is currently floating right above everyone.
correction; she went after cinder over that. Cinder told her ruby was responsible, and I hardly thing Neo is stupid enough to really believe that. As have recently been pointed out by yang, pretty much everything bad of late, can be put at the feet of Salem's faction....which, in terms of people Neo can do fuckall about, means Cinder.
My dream come true is Emerald and Neo working together to kill Cinder and Emerald getting the maiden powers. That would just be so amazing to me. Honestly, best case scenario thought any scenario with Neo and Em working together sounds amazing
Cinder wasn't wrong. She technically _DID_ take the lamp right from under Ironwood's nose just like she said, as it was all her plan and she would have been perfectly capable of doing it herself if she did not have to go after the Winter Maiden at the same time. Had Cinder been the one to take on Team ALPN, that fight would have been over in an instant. Cinder could have done the job of getting the Relic herself, probably even better than Neo since Cinder was able to effortlessly enter and leave Ironwood's office -- one of the most secure places in all of Atlas -- without being noticed. The ONLY reason why she had Neo do it was because she had to go off and get the Winter Maiden powers at the same time.
Can you do other topics for videos such as theories on the relic of creation and rubyxpenny?
I hope we see Salem do something instead of getting her minions to do it for her.
I can see them sticking with heroes from pragmatism in case of one of them becoming maiden (for example by killing Cinder).
No need for Neo to team up with PENNY because Neo wants Ruby dead.
Way I see it, Neo, Emerald, Mercury, and even Cinder all have to GTFO or it's going to end very badly for them all. Neo's plan to kill Ruby is going to be heal faced towards Salem the second she finds out from Ruby that he was eaten by a grimm... Who controls the grimm? If she doesn't leave that moment, Salem will just tie her off as a loose end like she did Leo.
Emerald is slowly seeing just how absolutely fucked her situation is. Cinder doesn't actually care for her, Salem even less so, she's obviously aware of the fact her worth is only determined by her semblance and her performance with it so far, and sooner or later will need to get out seeing as how everyone else is pressing her for having her own thoughts.
Mercury... Well lets just say that trying to act all tough and sadistic around a bunch of actually tough and sadistic whack jobs only gets you so far. He's a boy trying to fill his dad's shoes, (heh) and so far they don't fit. He's got nothing special outside of his worth as a little bit of side muscle, and that is easily replaceable. The quicker he runs the better.
Cinder herself... She's a broken person inside, plain and simple. Her devotion to Salem is spawned from a desire for power she never had as a clearly abused child, and that's her driving force behind every action. She doesn't see that she's being used all over again. She doesn't see that once Salem has used her to open all the vaults, she'll be discarded, after all what value is a key to a door that can only be opened once? After Salem has the Relics, she'll probably take the Maiden magic for herself, or Kill cinder with her own hand. She won't be disillusioned so easily. In order for her to see how little she means she is going to have to have that superiority complex beaten out of her, and I mean HARD. Like broken aura, fight goes on, beaten black and blue until she's crying on the floor unable to move kind of hard. She is going to have to loose harder than she ever has before. Then she's going to have to be shown mercy. Something I think nobody has ever shown her before. Maybe she lives through it, maybe she doesn't. But I always hated the "Redemption=death" trope.
Is Neo using her semblance to hide her eyes? Or was the colour change when Raven saved Yang an animation error🧐Do they want us to forget about that or will they just jump us with her possibly silver eyes?
I have been thinking about that too. I wonder if Neo actually has silver eyes too.
Just a little question: Watts said in the end of episode 3 in vol8 "if you can't beat them, let them join you" (or something like that..). Is that what Roman wanted to say in vol3 right before Neo fly away? Because he also started with "if you can't beat them..". Or am I just dumb?
I think eventually Mercury's gonna join Emerald.
I see a slight chance for that to happen
If Neo and Emerald leave, then I'd say 50/50.
Honestly I doubt Mercury will go with them. As long as he sees Salem as the likely winner of the war , he’s going to side with her. But he can be redeem
@@BlueBlazeKing Well it's just a guess, because Mercury *clearly* isn't happy there either, he's just in denial
If they fight Ruby. That would totally be the way Ruby loses her eye.
Going back to one of your previous videos, what if the RWBY series is just 1 big Fairy tale
It is. A lot of the characters are based on or are inspired by fairytale characters, especially Grimm’s fairy tales.
I kinda want then to join Ironwood, as he is a bad guy, that isn't evil, and also still allows them to be against RWBy.
also I think Neo and Em would look good in a Aceops outfits
What if Roman Torchwick is the grimm that spoke????
Merc will likely go up in Salem ranks and replace Watts when he dies.
Em and Neo will likely work with Cinder and quit her once Cinder proves she's incompetent due to arrogance.
Honestly with how Tyrian phrased Watt’s capture, they’ve given up on him already.
@@BlueBlazeKing maybe he has, but j doubt it, watts is the smartest of Salem's forces. He's not done yet. Maybe by the end of season 9 he'll be dead but no way he is going down without one last hacker battle geek to geek with Pietro. As the fight for Penny's soul.
I still think that Summer is either alive or she was the former Spring Maiden. Summer being still being alive is due to the fact that unless I see a body, I'll say she's still alive. Summer being the former Spring Maiden, let me ask, if you knew that you were about to die, would you want your best friend to do it out of mercy?
What if Neo finds that Roman was the hound. Remember Ruby is little red riding hood and roman "died" by the grimm
What is team ALPN? I never heard of this variation. XD
What if talking wolf grimm is mutated Roman?
Despite the things she’s done I want Emerald to be redeemed in some way. If you look in deeper, she didn’t have much choice at all. She was on the streets with nothing until Cinder took her in, and Cinder wouldn’t be likely to keep her by her side if she didn’t do what she was asked. Cinder abused Emerald for years when all she wanted was to be loved and appreciated. Plus, I’ve seen far worse characters be redeemed.
Neo and Emerald are gonna try and leave but Mercury is gonna get in their way and try and kill Emerald. Neo would then probably just in front and defend her solidifying their allegiance with each other and take him on (with the way the OP has portrayed Mercury he is on Salems side 100% so he would do something like this to show his loyalty to Salem..
Eh I'd disagree with the Mercury portion. In V6:C9, he says that he's just in it for what he can get out of it and acting 100% on Salem's side, but Tyrian instantly calls him out on that and from Mercury's reaction, I'd say that Tyrian hit pretty close to the truth. Mercury also supports Emerald when Tyrian goes all "Cinder's dead." on Emerald in V6:C4. I'd say Mercury might actually join them if they actually try leaving Team Salem, but maybe that's just me.
@@thatskeletonguy7607 He's a weird character for sure and needs some more screen time.
Hi, Phoenix. I have a theory that might make a good video. "Women of the Arc Family. I have a theory that Jaunes mother or one of his sisters is the Summer Maiden. The original Summer Maiden could have been the female ancestor of Jaune and started the family work of killing Grimm, but there would be two different roles for the boys and girls of the family. The men would go on to become huntsmen and the women become Maidens. While Jaune is the huntsmen, his mother could be the current Summer Maiden and she's putting Jaunes sisters through a series of tests to decide which one of them is the best choice to become the next Maiden when it's time for her to pass on the power. What do you think?
I wouldn't say Emerald is alone. Hazel has been looking out for her.
I do think at least Neo is going to leave but think it would be interesting if she still wants to kill Ruby. I have to disagree with Roman being alive as there is no way he could have lived through any of that. Writing wise his character fulfilled his purpose and more so. He only last pass a one off character because the voice actor did such a good job.
The gods said that if they were summoned again and found humans unworthy they'd destroy the planet and end the human race. Salem craves death and hopes to summon them to be the catalyst of destruction for everything. She's not trying to kill them or face them
Is there connection of crows sword and osmas cane? (the gears)
6:50 do you think there is a possibility to the hound actually be roman not summer
Emerald would probably take Cinder with her too.
I think honestly neo will have a harder time leaving on account of wanting to kill cinder and being in a great position to do this, I do not know why people keep asserting neo wants to kill ruby so much that’s not the case, neo wants cinder dead far more but is aware she cannot win against her in a 1v1 she is helping cinder because it puts her in an excellent position to back stab her and allows her to take out ruby along the way as a side bonus.
Killing ruby is NOT neo’s goal thst does not fit what has happened, neo wants to kill Cinder and a side benefit is killing ruby along the way. Neo had about a year to think about who she as going after for romans death she decided on cinder so I don’t think that will change easily.
I think this will result in neo betraying cinder and either a putting her in a position for ruby to kill her or even better neo dying after dealing a very severe wound to cinder something that she really can’t heal that causes her to lose in the end, maybe neo snaps her knee in the fight and at the end of the series she is fighting ruby and her knee buckles causing her to falter and die
Will we get more of team SRPH anytime soon?
You have the best shirts! Have you started playing the new hyrule warriors?