11/8/1987: The Day The NFL Forgot to Schedule a Game

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  • @Tubewings
    @Tubewings 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    It amazes me that it took so long for the NFL to get rid of its blackout rule. Hell, even its original blackout rule where a game couldn't be televised in its home market even if it sold out was stupid, because it meant that the only way people could outside of the stadium could follow the game was on the radio (this also affected the first six Super Bowls, with Super Bowl VII only lifting its blackout "on an experimental basis").

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That was pretty dumb, though, it wasn't nearly as dumb as the Dolphins destroying their greatest team out of greed, I don't think they'll ever win another SB, just don't.

    • @marcus813
      @marcus813 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Fans could get around blackouts by the mid-2000s when video streams of NFL games became a thing. The blackout rule should've been dropped during that decade instead of the 2010s.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​​​@@marcus813Stubbornness is truly, awful.

    • @chrisguardiano6143
      @chrisguardiano6143 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The only thing worse than the NFL's blackout rule was the NHL's blackout rule which was a nationally televised game (in the US) could not be shown in its home market & would be booted to that teams RSN if less than 95% of the arena was full even during the playoffs. This was impossible to achieve in many markets such as Columbus & Arizona (before they moved into Mullet Arena) where the team was awful & fans didn't want to spend their money on a bad team. Even in markets where the team was good like Carolina & Tampa, this was hard to achieve due to the high ticket prices. The NHL tried to avoid this problem for many years by simply not putting the bad teams on national TV. This is one of the reasons why the Blackhawks, Bruins, Penguins & Capitals always seemed to be on national TV in the mid 2010's. The blackout rule in the NHL was eliminated when the league began its current TV contract a couple of years ago which states that every team in the league has to be on national TV at least once per season which is easy to do now that part of the deal involves games that can be streamed nationally on ESPN+ & Hulu. As a result we have seen the likes of Columbus, Anaheim & San Jose have more national TV appearances.

    • @runrafarunthebestintheworld
      @runrafarunthebestintheworld 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@marcus813yeah and they even could've dropped the blackout rule once Fox got rights to NFL games in the 1990's.

  • @kyle1910
    @kyle1910 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I remember it being a 4pm game. I came home from work to watch it live.

  • @michaelb6400
    @michaelb6400 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You may just be the hardest working dude on YT. Boy out here pumping put content like its nothing!

  • @TimEric4d3d3d3
    @TimEric4d3d3d3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The 1987 NFL season is the gift that keeps on giving. JG9 is the benefactor

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah yes, headlined by
      Brewers vs Packers
      Cardinals (well Jack Clark anyway) vs, um, Cardinals (and the debut of the Royal Rumble)
      The Chiefs/Dolphins flop
      This
      And many more...................................................

  • @Rockhound6165
    @Rockhound6165 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    11/8/87 I was in St. Louis watching the Cards win one of the greatest comebacks of all time and still the largest 4th quarter comeback of all time(down 25 points).

    • @user-ps5ux2sp6w
      @user-ps5ux2sp6w 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      kurokawa kokujin akihito!

    • @RobHolecko
      @RobHolecko 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a long suffering Buccaner fan, I remember that game.... curse you, Vai Sikahema!

  • @BrockBoone
    @BrockBoone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    1987 is one of the weirdest schedules in nfl history and 1982 and 1984 and 1970 because 1970 have so many ties like the 1970 chargers 5-6-3 and the 1970 chiefs 7-5-2

    • @Jason_Maier
      @Jason_Maier 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      1984 season had two games that weren't even broadcast nationally; both involving Seahawks home games.
      First was week 1 against the Browns. Due to a King County fuck up regarding stadium usage (long story short, the lease terms of the Kingdome said the Seahawks could play 3 home games in September; while also stating that the Mariners had scheduling priority), the team had to move their game to Labor Day afternoon on Monday. The game was only aired in the Seattle & Cleveland markets.
      The other was week 7 against the Bills. Game 5 of the 1984 World Series was at 400 Eastern time and NBC also had the NFL doubleheader that day, so the Bills/Seahawks game was only televised in those markets. The other 4pm game (Steelers at 49ers) was also just televised in local markets.

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jason_Maier I think the replacement game vs the Bengals in 87 was also a local broadcast while NBC had Cards/Giants Game 5, don't remember if it was a DH or just a single game

  • @lionsfan7500
    @lionsfan7500 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really enjoyed this video. For me it was very nostalgic because I was a sophomore in high school in the 1987 football season. I had just got my driver's license and since I was keeping my grades up my parents let use the car so my bff and me could go to the Silverdome to see the Cowboys vs Lions. I didn't know until 11pm that Saturday night that kickoff was moved to 4pm, while I was watching the 11pm newscast waiting for Saturday night Live to come on. It all worked out and we had a great time and even though we had a bad team here in Detroit it was still fun to watch our team win. Thank you for another great video and keep up the AWESOME WORK my friend!

  • @anthony0358
    @anthony0358 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I enjoyed this video. I guessed early on that the Rams were home but blacked out. All facts 100 percent correct as usual. Here in NYC we only saw the jets and giants at separate times. At least in the 1980s they were good teams. Also the Saints ended that season 12-3 . You also did a great video on how saints fans reacted after that first ever playoff game

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mike Ditka only won two Playoff Games after winning the SB, the first was, "The, Fog Bowl," the second was against the Saints, which just goes to show what an enormous fraud he was, sorry, entity.

    • @Musicradio77Network
      @Musicradio77Network 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WCBS-TV (channel 2) didn’t aired the Giants game in the afternoon, but they chose to aired one of the national AFC teams instead, and the Giants would played at night at 8PM where they played against the Patriots in their first ever “Sunday Night Football” on ESPN which was simulcast on WABC-TV (channel 7) in New York City, and the following evening, the Jets played against the Seahawks on “Monday Night Football” on the same channel.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​​@@Musicradio77NetworkA, wretchedly-nasty, development, unquestionably.

  • @chrisguardiano6143
    @chrisguardiano6143 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is very similar to what happened a decade later during the Stanley Cup playoffs no less when the NHL forgot to schedule Game 2 of the Ducks-Coyotes series for the afternoon time slot on Fox as part of a doubleheader of playoff games on a Sunday. Back in 1997, the NHL did not broadcast every game of the playoffs on national TV like they do today. Instead Fox did a doubleheader on weekend afternoons in a similar format to their MLB coverage where you would get regionalized coverage depending on where you lived & like the NFL your local team (or closest team in the area in markets without NHL teams) would always get shown. Fox's goal was to have every market in the country get a doubleheader of some kind. Meanwhile ESPN would air weekday playoff games & any prime time weekend games nationally. For Game 2 the Ducks-Coyotes series, ESPN had already told both Fox & the NHL that they could not show this game in prime time at all because they were airing Sunday Night Baseball between the Yankees & Red Sox & the game could not be shown on ESPN 2 because they were airing an MLS match between Tampa & the LA Galaxy. You would think that after ESPN mentioned this that Fox would then be able to air this game in the afternoon as part of their doubleheader. However the NHL decided to keep the game in its prime time slot because they foolishly thought it would draw a sell out crowd at Arrowhead Pond (the Duck's home arena) which it did not because of the time it was taking place at & many fans especially families not showing up. This resulted in the game having to be shown on the two teams RSN's meaning fans in both Anaheim & Phoenix had to watch their respective teams on cable TV instead of over the air on Fox for free. It also meant that both Anaheim & Phoenix only got one playoff game on Fox instead of two & the rest of the country not being able to see Game 2 of this series due to what I mentioned about ESPN's other commitments on that Sunday. To this day it is the last time that a Stanley Cup playoff game has failed to be shown on national TV in the US.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Speaking of which, people complain about how the MLB Playoffs are diluted, they have no idea, the NHL had, twenty-one, teams, sixteen, of which, made the Playoffs, the only reason that this went unnoticed was because in that entire period you could count the teams that won the, Cup, on, two, hands.

    • @runrafarunthebestintheworld
      @runrafarunthebestintheworld 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep on Large Fox. Man I miss that they don't have rights to the NHL.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​@@runrafarunthebestintheworldNHL always regional, unquestionably.

    • @mrmoose6619
      @mrmoose6619 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matthewdaley746 Until recently, the NHL was always that way... even in the Original 6 era, it was 4/6 teams in the Playoffs. The rest is for another video... if there was ever a JG6...

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​@@mrmoose6619Same teams obliterators, unquestionably.

  • @CTubeMan
    @CTubeMan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about another Saints divisional game that year, two weeks earlier against the 49ers, and how it didn’t get shown in Salt Lake City.

  • @Musicradio77Network
    @Musicradio77Network 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Here in New York City, WABC-TV (channel 7) the Giants-Patriots game at 8PM which was a simulcast from ESPN, and it was a Sunday night football game. WCBS-TV (channel 2) and WNBC-TV (channel 4) never showed any local team that afternoon, either showed a national team, or a special programming like a movie showing during that afternoon, but I haven’t checked old newspapers online like the New York Times or the Daily News. Over on WABC-TV, they were simulcasting ESPN’s “Sunday Night Football” game with the Giants-Patriots and preempting “Spencer: For Hire” and “Dolly” with Dolly Parton, and it was the very first “Sunday Night Football” game on ESPN where it continued until 2006 where it moved to Mondays.

    • @CTubeMan
      @CTubeMan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Jets hosted my Seahawks on Monday Night that week.

    • @Musicradio77Network
      @Musicradio77Network 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CTubeMan Yep! That’s also on WABC-TV (channel 7) in New York City which was part of “Monday Night Football”.

  • @raidger4
    @raidger4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Week 15 in 1994 was a brutal day for televised games in Los Angeles, the early game on FOX was the Rams (4-10) at Buccaneers (5-9) the late game was the Seahawks (6-8) at Oilers (1-13). Raiders (8-6) were at home against the Broncos (7-7) but was blacked out due to not being a sellout. The top game that week was 49ers (12-2) at Chargers (9-5).

  • @benjaminrealy5661
    @benjaminrealy5661 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Suppose then the lions did sell out (yeah about as likely as the Rams) then CBS would have to take the 4pm spot with that game in the Detroit market meaning they'd lose their marquee match-up at the 1pm spot. That might have been the delay of the announcement of the game change to under the 48 hours. William Clay Ford had always had a different approach with TV rights VS ticket sales and often would request the 48 hour rule be extended to possibly get his team on the air, and sometimes even "bought" the remaining seats for radio giveaways just so the Lions can make TV. (When a sellout was close or there was a milestone such as a players 100th game)
    If they announced the switch sooner, I could see Ford invoking the 24 hour rule and then buying the remaining seats to inconvenience CBS as much as CBS inconvenienced him by changing the start time.
    I mean CBS would still benefit more from the Detroit market watching the Detroit game, and so would Ford. It'd be more a you inconvenience us, we inconvenience you.

  • @RetroJR3379
    @RetroJR3379 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Going to church, IHOP, shopping and visiting relatives and theyre watching LA CHIVAS DE GUADALAJARA I had no idea about this.
    I learned something new everytime I see a JG9 video

    • @cokesquirrel
      @cokesquirrel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ATLAS!!!!
      are you in Guadalajara?
      I'm in Colonia atlas

    • @RetroJR3379
      @RetroJR3379 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @cokesquirrel No but I did visit Guadalajara few time. I said Guadalajara cause they were on Univision plus that my dad favorite team

  • @pappy4075
    @pappy4075 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    May want to do the story on how ART MODELL owner of Browns circumvented blackout rules for the city he lived in Shaker Heights OH. By having a feed on cable system from Toledo and not Cleveland

    • @CTubeMan
      @CTubeMan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did PAUL BROWN do anything similar?

  • @DavidLimofLimReport
    @DavidLimofLimReport 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This reminds me of that Simpsons Treehouse of Horror parody of the Shining where Homer forgot to lock the door, bring grandpa before leaving for their weekend away at Mr Burns.
    CBS: Did you remember to schedule a late night NFL game for LA?
    NFL: D'oh

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's the Shinning. Do you want to get sued?

    • @robertsprouse9282
      @robertsprouse9282 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Rockhound6165, if such litigation really existed..you’d get sued for misspelling SHINING.
      Or, did I miss something?..

    • @robertsprouse9282
      @robertsprouse9282 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This guy would be great at a DECEMBER holiday dinner.
      When asked if he wanted Turkey, Ham or Duck, his answer would be: YOU WOULD THINK THAT MY THREE HELPINGS OF TURKEY AT THANKSGIVING WOULD LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE THAT I WANT TURKEY.. buuuut(with a whiny almost incredulous tone in his voice) YOU WOULD BE WRONG.
      BUT TO SEE WHY I AM GOING WITH ANOTHER MEAT, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME CONTEXT.”
      By the time he was finished, it was time to go eat a chocolate Cadbury egg..sheeesh..
      Oh, and with all the ad spot cut-in’s for fighting E.D., and getting ‘my husband as hard as a rock’..and this site’s poster’s longer than long-winded schtick, I got lost in the wash and thought that the NFL had moved my erection from 1pm to 4..

  • @mrmoose6619
    @mrmoose6619 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These strike years are full of interesting stories. Yet another I never knew about. THanks much.

  • @ryanstrnad8442
    @ryanstrnad8442 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In 1988, a Redskins vs Packers game in Milwaukee got moved from 1pm et to 4pm et and that decision was made just a few weeks in advance. I dont know if it was for the same reason as what's being said in this documentary.

  • @raidger4
    @raidger4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Living in the Los Angeles market as a Raider fan I knew every home game it would be inevitable that it wouldn’t be televised. I think the first time I saw a home game televised was the 1992 matchup against the Chiefs where it was Joe Montana at QB and Marcus Allen returning as a Chief. 1993 we had 3 games televised, the Chiefs, Broncos on week 18 and the Broncos in the Playoffs. I remember the local NBC affiliate bought the remaining tickets for the wild card game even when the team was granted an extension to sell out. In 95 when both teams relocated I was excited because it meant we were guaranteed 3 games and almost every Raiders game was televised.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, that team basically never got to celebrate their SB victory, first, there was the unexpected retirement of Ted Hendricks, second, Al Davis squandered Marcus Allen, third, the Bills crushed them, fourth, the team left town.

    • @raidger4
      @raidger4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@matthewdaley746playing at the Coliseum really hurt them. It had a capacity of 93,000 which made it impossible to sellout, plus the location was in a bad spot. They did renovate and reduce to 68,000 but that still didn’t help. If Bo Jackson didn’t have an NFL career ending injury, that could’ve made a difference, but they still would’ve lost to Buffalo.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@raidger4 Yeah, Howie Long, as great as he was, needed more than three years of mentorship under Ted Hendricks, OTOH, at least, he won a SB, Bruce Smith never did, though.

    • @mbono8870
      @mbono8870 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same problem in NYC growing up a Jets fan in the late 60s through the late 80s. The Jets and Giants rarely sold out and still we got screwed out of most doubleheader games.

    • @Musicradio77Network
      @Musicradio77Network 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mbono8870Both WCBS-TV (channel 2) and WNBC-TV (channel 4) never carried local teams on Sundays, but both stations in NYC aired NFC and AFC national teams as a double header, but the Giants didn’t carried it until later that evening, WABC-TV (channel 7) aired the Giants where they played against the New England Patriots in the first ever “Sunday Night Football” which was simulcast from ESPN, and two of the prime time shows “Spencer: For Hire” and “Dolly” were preempted, because of the Giants game.
      The Jets pushed the following night on channel 7 when it was on “Monday Night Football”.

  • @rocketmanVA703
    @rocketmanVA703 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You are incorrect about the current 75 mile rule... there is an exception regarding Baltimore and Washington. Given that the NFL does NOT consider Baltimore and Washington as one market, there are multiple times each year where, if you live 60 miles from Baltimore, as I do, you can't get the Ravens over the air (without a roof antenna) as the game is not televised by the local Washington affiliate due to a conflict with the Commanders game or doubleheader rules. In fact, early on in the Ravens history, 1996-7, NBC affiliate channel 4 chose to show other AFC games instead of the Ravens! So, Ravens broadcast by NBC affiliates in York, PA, Baltimore, and Richmond, VA... but not Washington!

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yep that’s right. I didn’t include the Baltimore exception just because Baltimore didn’t have a team back in 1987

  • @rocketmanVA703
    @rocketmanVA703 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By the way, Thank you for all the amazing content you.put out!

  • @toddbiesel4288
    @toddbiesel4288 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You know it's a long video when the famous line is used twice.

  • @Donald_the_Potholer
    @Donald_the_Potholer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wouldn't use Newspaper clippings as knowledge of the day of "publication", except possibly in New York. There's a reason why "Stop the Presses!" was such an iconic call when Newspapers were a thing. I remember as a highschooler being perplexed at the number of MLB and CFB scores showing "late" in my local paper. Granted, I was in an area that was considered rural at the time, despite hosting a military base and several suburban-style neighborhoods. But the reason was that the presses had to _start_ sometime. So e.g., the paper clipping from Maine showed what was known, at best, 36 hours from kickoff.
    Additionally, your point that a strike was known to the schedule makers is not valid since the strike happened _during_ the season. However, your general point stands based _solely_ on the 71% Blackout Rate the Rams had (85% factoring out the California-based teams). During the time that Blackouts were a thing, a "backup" game on each network should have been SOP. Granted, the fact that SNF and MNF featured the Giants and Jets respectively, (allowing NY to actually get a doubleheader during the afternoon,) took away one of the primary ways to facilitate this.

  • @RetroJR3379
    @RetroJR3379 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember November 8th 1987 living in LA I only saw the Raiders/Vikings opening and the first drive before I left to do 'gulp' family time

  • @acork7601
    @acork7601 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another distraction from the fact you haven't given us another Redzone episode like you promised

  • @jasonfischer8946
    @jasonfischer8946 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Whoopsie!!

  • @YFW-yz2gy
    @YFW-yz2gy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Bonkers

  • @Jason_Maier
    @Jason_Maier 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    JG9,
    Two questions I have regarding the 1987 NFL season:
    1. Which team(s) do you think could've made the playoffs if said strike/replacement player usage hadn't happened?
    2. Why weren't the week 3 games (one of which was a Browns/Broncos Monday Night game) made up? I mean some of the games cancelled in the 1982 strike were made up?

  • @joeyperrone3168
    @joeyperrone3168 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Back then, I believe all AFC games were exclusive to NBC and all NFC games were exclusive to CBS. The road team in interconference games determined who had rights to the game.

  • @michaelmalervy9066
    @michaelmalervy9066 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The blackout rule is the reason I was happy as a fan of the NFL that the Rams and Raiders left Los Angeles less than a decade later. We went from getting a double header once or twice per season to double headers every weekend. I am convinced one of the reasons that L.A. is not a football town is because Gen X grew up with very few double headers and rotten TV games such as the Cowboys-Lions matchup while Millennials had no team to root for. Two generations lost due to two teams being in a market built for one.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The same goes for baseball, the Angels are only still in Anaheim because of the 2002 World Series, and, they only won that because Dusty Baker got arrogant at the worst possible time, period.

    • @raidger4
      @raidger4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s why LA has so many fans of the 49ers, Cowboys, Packers. They were the teams who were on top when the Rams and Raiders moved. When the Rams moved back and subsequently Chargers moved north, people were already committed to their teams they grew up rooting for. Maybe in 20 years there’ll be more Rams and Chargers fans in LA, same goes for Vegas with the Raiders.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​​​​@@raidger4Rams, perhaps, Chargers, no-possibility.

    • @Larry_Harvilla
      @Larry_Harvilla 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@matthewdaley746 I give it a 50-50 shot that the Chargers will move back to San Diego if the Spanos family ever sells the team. Alex and Dean Spanos were/are persona non grata for the way they treated San Diego, but if the Spanos family is out of the way, I'm willing to bet the city will become more willing to negotiate.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@Larry_Harvilla Zero chance, they've had, indifferent/bad, ownership, since, the, 1970s, the fact that none of their teams ever got over the hump is the reason they left town, and, also the precise reason they're never coming back.

  • @BrockBoone
    @BrockBoone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    but the 1984 eagles finished 6-9-1

  • @Michael-D.-Williams
    @Michael-D.-Williams 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The whole blackout concept is completely counter-productive. Is there any evidence that it helped with ticket sales? It just shows that the owners didn't understand their market. How do you get people to go to games? You get your product on TV. Not deliberately take it off TV. Blackouts aren't an antidote to poor ticket sales, they're a major part of the cause. How did they not see that the blackout means the team isn't exposed to its clients, who then don't turn up, which forces further blackouts. Didn't anyone try to make this point back in the 1980s?

    • @runrafarunthebestintheworld
      @runrafarunthebestintheworld 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep and I hope the Indianapolis Motor Speedway realizes this because blacking out the Indy 500 in the Indianapolis area won't make a difference.

  • @WaltGekko
    @WaltGekko 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The blackout rules were simple: To make people want to go to the games. Back then, games often didn't sell out as often, and the TV contracts were not worth enough to change things. It was only when the TV contracts became what they did that the NFL finally modified the blackout rules and mostly eliminated such, however, home teams do have the right to enforce blackouts when in the singleheader window.
    From what I could get on the schedule, the only other games that could have been moved were Buccaneers-Cardinals (Cardinals last season in St. Louis before moving to Phoenix) and Falcons-Browns. I suspect the CBS was forced to ask Cowboys-Lions to be moved to 4:00 PM ET because local officials in Cleveland and St. Louis refused to allow their games to be moved on super-short notice because of not having enough law enforcement available to work a 4:00 PM ET game as opposed to a 1:00 PM ET game.
    Also, it was noted at the end of how the Cowboys-Lions game started the end of the Tom Landry era in Dallas. That really started the prior season in 1986 after starting 6-2 when in Week 9 against the Giants, Danny White went down with an injury and the Cowboys went 1-7 to finish 7-9, including an embarrassing loss at home to an Eagles team they destroyed in Philly earlier that season. The '87 Cowboys had an inflated record at 7-8 because a lot of their players who were near the end of their careers at that point crossed the picket lines and won all three games during the strike (they were 4-8 in non-strike games that season). Were it not for that, Landry is likely "strongly suggested" to retire as Cowboys head coach after that season as many as it was wanted him fired by them as the "Flex" defense became obsolete and the game had passed him by at that point sadly.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's being rather charitable, The, Real, Beginning, Of, The, End, probably were the two Playoff losses to the Rams in, 1983, and, 1985, despite, having the NFL's best record from, 1980-1983, Tom Landry never reached another SB after SB 13, OTOH, the Steelers fell off of a cliff beginning in 1980, and, the Raiders would win two of the next four SBs.

    • @WaltGekko
      @WaltGekko 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@matthewdaley746 True in a lot of ways. The Cowboys started to shows signs of trouble late in the 1983 season when after the lost to the then-Redskins in the rematch in Dallas, they mailed it in against the 49ers in the season finale and then had a no-excuse loss to the Rams in the Wild Card round. 1985 was a fluke title that came on a fluke interception in the second Giants game as otherwise the Giants win the NFC East that year. Those probably kept Landry around longer than he should have been and he could have been forced out following the 1986 collapse to 7-9 were it not for the 1985 division title.

    • @davidfiddleman2312
      @davidfiddleman2312 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WaltGekkovery good points minor correction cowboys were 5-7 in non strike games this Washington fan remembers very well our all replacement player team defeating a Cowboys team that had a number of stars crossing the picket line.
      But for sure Landry was losing his fastball at that point. And the tremendous advantages the Cowboys had in the 1960s and 1970s with regard to scouting and development were gone .

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@WaltGekko Thank You, going back to the Steelers, despite winning four SBs, their run was exactly eight years long, and, despite, everything going perfectly, they barely won SB 14, before reality proceeded to smack them right across the face, as their core began to retire, what the, Raiders, and, Cowboys, lacked in dominance, they more than made up for in consistency.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​​@@davidfiddleman2312Age never loses, unquestionably.

  • @Unitas19
    @Unitas19 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I always wondered why 1987 season had only 15 games.

    • @matthewshortle5274
      @matthewshortle5274 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Player's strike

    • @dimwit818
      @dimwit818 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Terry Bradshaw did color for cbs that season and during the one of the replacement games he was asked by his play by play partner about the 2 teams strengths and weaknesses. He responded with 'i dont have a clue' lol

  • @CTubeMan
    @CTubeMan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I knew where this video was going about 10 minutes in. So I thought you could just deal with it in one of your typical 15-20 minute videos. However, this is more complex. But this still should have been remedied by the NFL well before the eve of the game.

  • @anthonyrivera4735
    @anthonyrivera4735 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What if the week 3 1987 games were made up instead of cancelled?

    • @marcusmcgraw3519
      @marcusmcgraw3519 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Then St Louis likely makes the playoffs instead of Minnesota. They had a win and in situation, but lost to Dallas in the final week of the season. They would have held the tiebreaker here as well

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Moving parts are, everywhere.

    • @kyle1910
      @kyle1910 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Then DEN-CLE would have been a battle for the #1 seed. It was originally the MNF game. If that week was made up, I'm not sure it would still have been on MNF since unlike today the league did everything they could to avoid having games at night in cold weather outdoor facilities

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@marcusmcgraw3519 If that happens, the 49ers, probably, go to the SB, and, Joe Gibbs, definitely, doesn't get three SBs, though, JKC, is far more forgiving of a loss to the 49ers.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​​@@kyle1910Broncos were outclassed, unquestionably.

  • @HeritageWealthPlanning
    @HeritageWealthPlanning 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, I was raised in Maine and remembered the pats being blacked out multiple times so we had to watch the Jets vs Dolphins or something along those lines. So boring.
    In fact I think we had to watch the no announcer game too.
    Thet totally sucked because winters in Maine are horrible so watching nfl was one’s only entertainment as a kid

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The whole country got the no announcer game. That was nationally televised

  • @RetroJR3379
    @RetroJR3379 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ive always wondered how the 2011 NFL season would've looked had the lockout continued into the season

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Storybook Ending's, averted.

  • @RetroJR3379
    @RetroJR3379 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only time Im glad I was forced to go do family time LOL

  • @ricknibert6417
    @ricknibert6417 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One question I have about cross-flexing: Do Bears games on WBBM have higher ratings than on WFLD?

  • @joedavis4257
    @joedavis4257 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was during the Daryl "What's a guy got to do to get fired around here?" Rogers era.

  • @rngfootball759
    @rngfootball759 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After an epic 7 game 1987 world series between Cardinals and Twins weeks ago, the NFL shouldve done a better job with tv scheduling. Flex scheduling wouldn't been introduced till nearly 2 decades later. Back in those days live sports are limited compare to today with all the streaming and such

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If he ever reboots his baseball channel he needs to do a Deep Dive on two teams that grossly underachieved, the, Cardinals, and, the, Mets, they had a single thing uniting them, Keith Hernandez, truly amazing.

    • @rngfootball759
      @rngfootball759 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah and my Red Sox in 87 had a losing season. Lou Gorman the GM at the time should've let John McNamara go for Morgan. That year the pitching besides Clemens was awful. Oil can and Hurst struggled while Bob Stanley was in the rotation

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@rngfootball759 The 1987 Twins are the worst Championship team in professional sports history, they had no business even reaching the Playoffs, much less winning the Championship, the fact that they bookended, "A, Dynasty, That, Wasn't," is another travesty, simple as that.

    • @ricknibert6417
      @ricknibert6417 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Another game between Denver and Minnesota would be flexed to another network during the 2000s.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​​@@ricknibert6417Definitely interesting great, variation.

  • @pendragon2012
    @pendragon2012 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Washington should be grateful for 1991 because it's the only time they've won it all in a non-strike season, lol. LA has always been a difficult market for football.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They're definitely the most underrated team in NFL history, it didn't help that one year later, they fell off of a cliff, and, barely scraped into the Playoffs, and, two years later, they were totally finished.

    • @davidfiddleman2312
      @davidfiddleman2312 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matthewdaley746lifelong Washington fan and this is 💯 correct.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​​​@@davidfiddleman2312Thank You, oddly enough, the 1987 team saved Joe Gibbs, there were people who hadn't forgiven him for, Rocket Screen, (a few still haven't), basically, with the 49ers being upset, they had to reach the SB, otherwise, JKC, has zero excuse not to cave to pressure, were it not for, "The, Drop," that's exactly what happens.

    • @davidfiddleman2312
      @davidfiddleman2312 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matthewdaley746 while I remember rocket screen to this day, Gibbs should have been fine as the team was 12-4 in 1986.
      But yes, I was actually on a flight during the 49er Viking game to Hawaii and that result came on over the loudspeaker and I was like “we can win it all now”. Meaning time to get up at 7am HI time for a playoff game and wouldn’t have it any other way.
      Minnesota did all the dirty work for my team- the 49ers were way superior during the regular season and then the drop at the end of the NFC championship I’ve had a bit of a soft spot for the Vikings ever since…

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​@@davidfiddleman2312Possibly, no, guarantees, however.

  • @paulstephenduckworth2726
    @paulstephenduckworth2726 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hysterical, in 1988 the Giants vs the Jets what is the Jets did not sell out. Was that game blackout for the whole New York Market? Or did they have 3 games. In 1988 the jets beat the 10-6 Giants, which the Giants missed the playoffs that year. Just Hypothetically

  • @Cityofstroud
    @Cityofstroud 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Question for you

  • @barbaracaroll
    @barbaracaroll 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Strike year so nothing mattered

  • @RetroJR3379
    @RetroJR3379 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yet they soldout Week 15 MNF vs Cowboys

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cross-flexing the way we knew it back in 2014 isn't really that anymore as of 2024 due to every regular season game being available to all of the league's domestic media partners to grab. With those conference constraints removed, a game moving from CBS to FOX or vice versa is less of a big deal than it was in 2014 and, to a greater extent, 2011.
    Since 2011, I wanted an NFL TV environment where the road team's conference didn't dictate the Sunday afternoon media designation, especially in light of that '87 Saints/Rams game. The NFL must not have paid attention to the Rams' attendance when hosting clubs from outside Cali. The NFL should've seen that blackout coming from a country mile away.

  • @randytracy1742
    @randytracy1742 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    NFL: oops, we screwed up!! 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @kevin2400
      @kevin2400 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Reminds me of 2020 with the woke garbage on the endzones

  • @RetroJR3379
    @RetroJR3379 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Had no idea the Rams had so many blackout and I lived in LA

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In that same vein, the most important person in the history of the Angels is Dusty Baker, if he doesn't hand them the 2002 World Series, they probably leave town.

    • @Musicradio77Network
      @Musicradio77Network 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      New York City did not aired any of the double header NFL games on WCBS-TV and WNBC-TV, but they just carried both national teams depending on which team you’re playing within a 75-mile radius, but the Giants doesn’t play during the afternoon, except it was on Sunday nights where the Giants played against the Patriots in the first ever Sunday Night Football game on ESPN which was being simulcasted on WABC-TV, and two of the ABC prime time shows were preempted like “Spencer: For Hire” and “Dolly”, but they pushed over to the overnights since they were tape delayed.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​​@@Musicradio77NetworkNetworks were excessively, nasty.

  • @marcusmcgraw3519
    @marcusmcgraw3519 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This type of shit makes me seriously question people who say that the 80s was the best era of football. I say it was 1994-2010

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I love when people say that the 80s was the best decade for football, completely ignoring the multiple instances of the season getting shortened due to work stoppages

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those are the same people who claim that, the, 1990s, were a, Golden Age For Basketball, and, they're right, they were, for Bulls fans, when one team is demonstrably better, the sport isn't fun, at all, and, the fact that they only talk about how it ended, makes it even worse, they sound like Oilers fans, the NHL's last, Dynasty, that's that.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@OfficialJaguarGator9 Additionally usually terrible SBs.

    • @davidfiddleman2312
      @davidfiddleman2312 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@OfficialJaguarGator9legit point all the way. Which certainly benefited my team who won the Super Bowl both of those seasons - maybe 1982 they were still the best team 1987 no way the Niners were dramatically superior in the regular season and we got great help from the Vikings, although that wasn’t really related to the strike.
      That said I do consider it the golden age for three reasons:
      1. Best balance between running and passing and offense and defense I’ve seen and I’m a 50 year fan.
      2. Gibbs and Walsh are 2 of the 3 best coaches of all time, along with Lombardi, for me. And Parcells was pretty darn good too.
      3. Niners were amazing, it was my team’s golden age, and the 1985 Bears were so much fun even if you weren’t a Bears fan.
      Just one fan’s opinion. You consistently do great work, pull stories that I would have zero clue about, and I can and will recommend your channel to any NFL fan. I’m not the kind of person who needs to be agreed with all the time and encourages discussion as long as it’s civil and respectful. Keep it up!

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​​@@davidfiddleman2312Decency's truly special, unquestionably.

  • @johncate9541
    @johncate9541 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually, it wasn't so bad. They didn't have to watch the putrid Rams lose, and instead got to see the Cowboys get their butts kicked. If you didn't like Dallas, that was always worth watching.

  • @BrockBoone
    @BrockBoone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1970 raiders finished 8-4-2

  • @thatduderobo1974
    @thatduderobo1974 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rams fans not showing up to home games the more things change the more they stay the same😂

  • @user-so3ir5xq3h
    @user-so3ir5xq3h 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He right most sports fans to do not care about the tv contract or any businesses side. I just watch the games

  • @stevengrvp
    @stevengrvp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was born in 87

    • @BrockBoone
      @BrockBoone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      nice but 1980 was better tbh

    • @stevengrvp
      @stevengrvp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BrockBoone ok....

    • @BrockBoone
      @BrockBoone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stevengrvp well 1987 was a great year

  • @alexe1707
    @alexe1707 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In NJ we would sometimes get 6 between the 1st 2 windows.

    • @mrmoose6619
      @mrmoose6619 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You must have lived in the area where you got both Phile and NYC channels. I grew up in the heart of Giants/Jets... and well... some years were great, some were OK, some were... why do we have to have 2 NY/NJ teams???

    • @alexe1707
      @alexe1707 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrmoose6619 NJ has 2 affiliates of each network.

  • @user-so3ir5xq3h
    @user-so3ir5xq3h 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1987 was the year when FOX network first Broadcast and the they didnt had NFL that year Now is CBS and Fox.

    • @user-ps5ux2sp6w
      @user-ps5ux2sp6w 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      kurokawa kokujin akihito!

  • @daveporter0217
    @daveporter0217 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    First

  • @christianwootton100
    @christianwootton100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Los Angeles is not a football crazy city. The Chargers need to go back to San Diego. Amen.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It'll never happen, unquestionably.

    • @christianwootton100
      @christianwootton100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matthewdaley746 😪😢

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​​@@christianwootton100Life's so totally, unfair.

  • @stevenbauer4799
    @stevenbauer4799 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1987 was another STRIKE season. The season was already over for teams like defending champ g men with 0-5 start with 0-3 scab record. It only benefitted REDSKINS again as gibbs had his scab squad ready to go before regulars returned. SKINS-2 x strike season champs. So no value in nfl games that season so who cares if cbs missed a game in what was another strike shortened joke season with another predictable outcome.