Deus Ex Mankind Divided Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ธ.ค. 2024
- In-depth review of the latest Deus Ex; a series that is starting to get dangerously close to that Icarus metaphor itself.
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sounds like in the time the bus loading times happen in mankind divided you could take an actual bus around town and see mankind divided.
Glad I isntalled it on an SSD then
Unfortunately, Sqaure Enix did in fact meddle with Deus Ex Mankind Divided (and every other game theyve published within the past few years, I.e. Hitman and Just Cause 3). It was one of the executives of Square's HQ in London that told the development team that they had to make the awful Breach mode, shove Microtransactions in, break the ending to be a part of the 3rd part of this "trilogy", and to be sure to cut out as much content as possible to shove into DLC packs... #FuckSquareEnix
Not gonna be surprised if they just happen to announce a "Game of the year" version with everything in it :/
Then the director's cut 2 years later
*****
its especially insulting how they kept Pritchard out of the main story only to star in the DLC mission... that comes out just a month after Mankind Divided's...
+Timothy Lai Honestly, as much as I enjoyed the game, I don't think it deserved any GOTY award (unlike its predecessor, which like the vids author I also see as one of the best of its generation), and I'm actually relieved it didn't earn one because it would have been clear overrating.
Even though it is pretty decent and well done in most aspects, it feels very rushed and incomplete in others, and for those flaws I think it ends as just an average 7.5 or 8/10 game and not a 9 to 10/10 gem.
Still gonna they that the game is awesome. BTW fuck you, greedy publishers
8:11 To be fair, MGS4 used a lot of motion capture and some very talented stuntmen. It really paid off in the long run, but for games like Deus Ex it's usually cheaper to just animate cutscenes traditionally.
Malik best girl.
Sarif best boy.
True
Indeed
Indubitably
Serif VA refused to come back, they begged him to come back but he didn't wanted because if the stigma that fruit flies video gave him, he wasn't replaced or kicked out, that fruit flies video was him acting, there's an interview of him where this is revealed and goes into full detail of what exactly happened.
he's perfectly sane and healthy and it also points out that if they didn't want to give him a job because if that fruit flies video, a Canadian law would've gotten the developers/publisher in trouble.
I can't find the article right now but I'm sure if you're interested enough you'll check it out.
I loved Mankind Divided. But I think it could have been even better if Square Enix weren't being scammy manipulative pricks.
What did Harambe say when a kid fell into his pen?
"I never asked for this."
to be fair the ending of HR wasn't that good either. _"pick your ending cutscene"_ and done, game over. pff
Ok but md didn't have the best quote ever; "it's not the end of world, but you can see it from here."
True, but only the very end of the Ending is like that :) As a whole, the story of Deus Ex Human Revolution is well developped and complete and even if Mankind Divided didn't exist, it would be enough to explain why in JC Denton's era they are so few mechanical augmented characters. When it comes to Deus Ex's story (as a whole), Mankind Divided isn't as essential as Human Revolution is.
Deus Ex GOTY was this way too, you pick an ending and that's it..
@@rixille yeah exactly. i see the opinion that deus ex human revolution has a bad ending with the pick a choice, but im convinced its just yahtzee fan boys parroting what he said
@@ReplicantBattyman Yea.. Deus Ex does that, you kind of pick what "side" you want to end the game on, it has always been that way in the franchise.
Haaaaaaated this ending. If we have to pay extra money to go to VersaLife, that's going to say a lot about how many fingers were in this pie.
That's an odd metaphore if I've ever seen one.
+Willian Gabriel It's very common
Gotta make room for microtransactions and multiplayer i guess
Jesus Christ, that edit with Leon was brilliant.
I always hate it when a racial deal is made out of something thats A: Not racial, and B: Doesn't make sense.
A race metaphor out of something that was rich people buying the ability to be better then other people just doesn't work for me.
Espeically when they do things like #AuglivesMatter, when augs did actaully go crazy and fucking kill a lot of people. Probrably not the best comparison to make right now....
(youknowbecauseofalltheactualkillingsandriotsthatareACTUALLYhappendingrightnow)
most people with augs weren't rich though. it was being forced onto regular people for them to be more competitive in the job market. i don't know how people missed this in the previous games. you see shit ton of ghettos and homeless people who are augmented in the games. Pretty much similar to people in the real world living life beyond their means.
If you think all disrimination in human history is race based, then you haven't been paying attention.
Religious disrimination, cast sistems, class separation and even discrimination of political ideologies. There's more to prejudice than race.
@Jaggi: Except DE:MD absolutely _was_ taking its influence on "discrimination" from race talking points. "Aug Lives Matter," "Mechanical Apartheid." David's not talking out of his ass here.
Bioshock Infinite is one of the games that handled the racial deal perfectly, in my opinion
this was such a good game I beat it 4 times
Well... Now I want to play Resident Evil 2 again
You will, and it's going to be awesome
Deus Ex Mankind Divided should have been a fantastic sequel but instead it's merely a decent one; the refinements to gameplay, the excellent level design and the continuing freedom of choice in tackling missions, in terms of fun factor it's all there. But sadly Square Enix got their nasty little claws into the developer and demanded that...
A. The game's story be cut off abruptly for the purposes of selling DLC and a potential third game.
B. Extra modes like Breach be added to work in further plans for DLC and microtransactions where more time could have been spent on the game's main campaign mode.
C. Horrid single use microtransactions be thrown in a mere two weeks before release and then cover it all up for reviewers. Jim Sterling did a really detailed analysis of this in his Jimquisition episode: "How Square Enix kept meddling with Mankind Divided"
gotta love that asking for content alarm
9:34 That was the most beautiful thing I have ever in game review.
So glad to see more vids from you! And man the quality remains very high. Love the humor.
I don't buy the idea that Adam Jensen HAS to have no real choices because it's a prequel to Deus Ex 1.
Really, the only bit of lore MD needed to heed was that mechanical augmentation was basically gone save for VERY few examples (the only civilian we see retaining her augments did say that she was former military).
Hell, the fact that Adam was resurrected after being declared essentially KIA could have allowed him to act however.
where is your Ratchet And Clank video ?
don`t lose hope you never know with Brit
Tomorrow.
I wont
I love your reviews but just one thing. Never sing again ;_;
That loading time thing was perfect 😂 I never had to load that often for so long just to cross over a big-ass gray line to continue a sidequest. it wouldn't be so bad if there was fast travel to areas but it really made a great game drag on at points
Hahaha. Dude I subbed just for the karaoke alone. Hahaha. Priceless.
Also, great video and I completely agree.
MGS 4 had dated animations in the gameplay sections, only the cutscenes had top-notch mocap.
The animations weren't realistic in the gameplay because they were in service to the gameplay. They were responsive and instantaneous so the game would feel spot on bro.
Oh sure, they served it purpose gameplay-wise (which is more important) but I was talking about how they look. Making Old Snake spin in place is still hilarious to this day.
MGSV very easily topped it. Hell, even Peace Walker did. Sorry, MGS4's gameplay animations are pretty dated by now.
I haven't played this one yet but i remember being introduced to human revolution for the first time when i was younger and absolutely loving it. I also loved the aestethic of it the yellow hues and all that, i see they dropped that aestethic in mankind divided ? Why?
Piss filter is missed to this day.
Theres at least one other boss than the final one i know of and thats from the Harvester killer sidequest. I remember finishing it pacifist and walking around the room and it had all kinds of doodads and traps that screamed "boss arena." So yeah, theyre there, just they seem to give you the option to negotiate beforehand
Imho you are one of the best TH-cam game reviewers I've come across - keep it up!
In the next game, I want to meet characters from Deus Ex 1 and I would love to see a resolution of DX1 plots to get like a really rounded up story where you are just like: "that was like this all along? Woooot?!"
You're still one of the best on youtube. Keep it up man.
I just finished resident evil 2 and that Leon joke just killed me.
If you ever get a desire to replay this (or grab the DLC on the cheap), I can confirm an SSD makes a _huge_ difference in load times. Subway transitions were ~30 seconds or so, and I my SSD isn't super high end or anything. Your RAM is also quite slow by today's standards, which may also be a contributing factor.
DrearierSpider1 Now if only the game wasn't a bloated ass 40GB because of all those ultra textures that got stuck into the core game instead of having it as a seperate install.
I wouldn't have considered those specs that great for a 2016 PC but I totally get what you were saying about the load times
I think the reason they put they "pay with real money" extras in these games is because they see that it works with mobile games, so they somehow think that if they put that into a console/PC game then they will get the same amount of extra money. Though I don't really see why it really is all that necessary as console/PC and mobile are completely different markets; people play mobile for games they can quickly play and switch between while console/PC games are meant to have more time invested in them.
5 minute load time's insane, but your machine is old, like 3 or more. 780, i7 3770 and you're on a hard disk (I think). Get an SSD at least. Like you said, there's a ton of detail here, that's a lot of assets to pull into memory.
Also, the 780 he used here has 3 GB VRAM.
Mankind Divided at 1080p, maxed out, without MSAA, uses over 8 GB VRAM, lol.
Sounds like a "Wait for the inevitable price drop." I'm in it when it's at the 29.99 price point.
12:34 Yeah, like in Metal Gear Solid!
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Wait, why have people never complained about the bosses in MGS? Why the fuck were there action bosses in a stealth game? If a Thief game pulled that kind of shit everyone would go insane!
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I find it interesting that nobody ever mentions how bullshit Sonic 3 & Knuckles was with its $120 price tag at the time.
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Hey, remember when "triple A" meant that the game was good? And when it wasn't just a disparaging term?
Why would they? MGS bosses are amazing and often times incorporate stealth. Some of them are ass especially in 4 I don't get why Brit loves the worst games in the franchise but otherwise the bosses are great.
Why would they? Because it's a STEALTH GAME! Action shit doesn't belong in a stealth game. Before MGS4 they didn't even have decent controls, so it's a double no-no.
But if it's okay, then all the people complaining about forced combat in games like Human Revolution or Splinter Cell Blacklist have no merit.
I think the former rings true.
Previous MGS games had controls that worked just fine. You can make a point about the original's lack of aiming in first-person, but the game was built around that limitation, which was proven by Twin Snakes being far, far easier when they added that mechanic in. You never needed to have fine aiming while moving, so it wasn't a priority to add it in.
Second, the MGS series is not an RPG. There's no expected illusion of control over the game. You can't build Snake to be a master hacker, because there's no character building. You are Snake, who is sneaky and shoots things; at the end of the game, you're playing Snake, who is sneaky and shoot things. Meanwhile, the Deus Ex series allows you to specialize in combat, hacking, or breathing underwater, and it is very disappointing to people to run into a series of bosses that forces them to play counteractively to how they've been building their character the entire time. That's the difference between the two series, and why it's not applicable to say that the two are identical because they both have forced boss fights.
Third..."Action shit doesn't belong in a stealth game?" The MGS series tagline is "Tactical Espionage Action."
I kinda agree. Most boss fights in MGS 1 and 2 rely on gimmicks or are action challenges with no stealth involved aside from Vulcan Raven, some of them are actually a bit obnoxious specially when you want a stealth challenge but the game presents an action-oriented challenge that has little to do with the core stealth mechanics. You can have boss fights in a stealth title if they're designed in a similar way to MGS 3 in where most of the time most of the core mechanics were useful in one way or another and tactical approaches were encouraged over just shooting the enemy. Compare the encounter with the Ocelot Unit in MGS3 compared to the shooting gallery that is the encounter with the Russian Mercenaries at the end of the Tanker chapter in mgs2.
I think some of the boss fights in 4 were better than most in MGS 1 since those were too basic and stealth was not an option. But they were pretty mediocre when compared to the boss fights in 3 which combined the critical thinking and mastery of the combat mechanics used in a few of the boss fights in 2 but also had plenty of room for stealth tactics and some use for almost every mechanics int the game.
Comic book guy: five minutes of loading time !? Shoot me now.
I wasn't excepting to pause the video and go on a 1 hour rabbit hole investigating Sarif's voice actor.
Mankind Divided and Witcher show how we can use Central and Eastern European landscape and perspective with success. Though I've heard You can't even see The Alchemist Clock so, well, that sucks.
Mostly here because Hbomb didn't have another three hours on Mankind Divided and I need at least one british madlad to speak to me at lengths about the merits and pitfalls of every Deus Ex game.
My loads were around 2-3 minutes but my pc is brand new, has higher specs and is running games of an SSD. In retrospect I'm really glad I invested in a SSD, it seems to have made a huge difference.
Karma did get me back. I suffered from the mission 14 glitch that halted progression by causing the game to crash during the metro load between areas. This bug took a nearly a week to get patched and it was over multiple platforms.
I wonder if anyone at Square Enix or Eidos Montreal cringed when they realised their advertising hashtag is "#can'tkillprogress"
11:10 Holy shit that's a thing?! I had no idea!
...And now I want to play Human Revolution again.
I swear the load times are less on the PS4. It just took them 2 or 3 patches to get the framerate stable.
How is the frame rate and loading now after the update this year
Boss fights have never fit Deus Ex, ever. The smaller, more focused story of Mankind Divided could really only warrant one boss fight, without other bosses feeling forced in just to please MGS and Dishonored fans. There's no good reason for them to be there, it's a spy game first-and-foremost, not a commando game. Having boss fights constantly injected into the game undermines the idea of being a highly-effective spy, hence why I think MGS fails. If MGS actually gave you choice on fighting the bosses, then I'd enjoy it slightly more as a stealth game.
Jack Stryder mgs3 has bosses where you have to use stealth against them. Taking The fury head on is suicide,The end...it's the end,only thing I'll have to say it's that you can skip him by waiting a week. The boss will cqc the shit out of you by attacking head on.
Jack Stryder though I disagree with you on MGS, but totally agree on Deus Ex. People definitely ask for this game to have features it doesn't need.
Great stuff at 09:56. Good review. Think I'll wait until its on a Steam sale.
I liked MD better than HR mostly because I just felt the settings were more unique and interesting, but I do understand and even agree with a lot of your complaints
But tbh my biggest complaint with both games is the hacking minigame, I felt like it was so reliant on the RNG that it just amounted to clicking as fast as you can.
The loading time song...LOL...YASSS.
The Song was incredible. You are a great singer. I died laughing. Kudos sir. XD
This game got such a bad wrap because of the idiots complaining about optional microtransactions that don't even impact the game at all and because of it we may not get another Deus Ex game for a long time. Little did they know just one year later microtransactions would become the norm and heavily impact the game like Battlefront 2, Mordor, etc.
I know this comment is a year late but I figured it's worth mentioning anyway.
I just wanted to answer why companies use the BINK video compression pre-rendered movies over in-game cinematics. Sometimes there are certain special effects and graphics that cannot be done via the in-game engine. If you ever see a cross dissolve in a video game, that's definitely going to be a prerendered movie as no game engine (currently) has the capability to do a cross dissolve. So if there is a specific effect the engine is not capable of, those will be replaced with prerendered movies.
Jim Sterling did a video where he talks about how MD was supposed to be one larger game, but Square Enix made Eidos chop it up to get a Jensen trilogy. If true, that could explain what the deal is with MD's ending.
And it's absolutely ridiculous because its been 4 years now and there's no sequel. The only thing dumber than using your story to setup another story is using your story to setup another story that you never get around to telling.
Spot on! The lack of interesting characters and meaningful player choice when it came to influencing the narrative was a huge let down.
4:10 that was amazing gamingBritShow
I haven't played this game yet, but I'm not sure how the whole aug prejudice thing is supposed to work. I mean, augs are something you choose to get most of the time while you don't really have influence over the color of your skin.
The idea is that people use the fact that people are not born with augs as an excuse to persecute them. Similar to persecution for religious (or lack of) association.
Classy guy this guy, always speaks what's on my mind.
I agree regarding the uninteresting characters. Relative to how I felt about Sarif and Malik, frankly I didn't give a damn about Vega and Chikane. It often felt like Jensen was completely alone in the world for long stretches at a time. But the gameplay was smooth and a lot of fun for a stealth lover like me.
Goddamnit re-upload your skyrim and sonic videos already. I don't care if they were copyrighted man.
Nice Jazz Jackrabbit music
Hey Gaming Brit you should check out Steam Bot Chronicles for the PS2. It has an amazing amount of player chose. An amount where you can join the bad guy if you want and the story plays out with that choice. Great video by the way!
I've seen a video where you say "ethos", and now I've seen this video where you say "pathos". Now in which video do you say "logos"?
I know it's been two years, but what is the song he's parodying at 9:57.
These load time reminded me of my C64 tape thingy and how long that monster took.
Also the game actually had 2 bosses if you count that serial killer in that one sidequest. I kinda do since they both went down pretty easily the same way but I understand if you don't.
Check out Jim Sterling's video if you want to know about the upper-management meddling Square did.
"Hey, it's up to us to stop Umbrella!"
My first play through took me 61 hours.
If I looked as creepy and sometimes downright disgusting (2:53 - Seriously, what is with her head?) and chose not to get enhancements to look more "normal". Why should I be given the right to complain if people discriminate against me for looking like a freak?
I really like MGS4 too, guess that makes two of us.
4 and 2 are my favorite mgs
Deus Ex didn't have real time reflections, it had cupboards with spare character models in them :P
Hi all- what's the music at the very start? A remix of the original?
So, what are the ceilings like?
have you done a review on evil within
I had upwards of 20 minute loading times... I know your pain.
I wonder about your more in depth ideas about the "more-is-better" gigantic action RPG's we get nowadays.
If you like Cyberpunk worlds, have you played Shadowrun Returns or Shadowrun Hong Kong then?
You get my like just for that title alone
What is the song he is parodying at 10:20?
Have you ever considered doing a Dante's inferno review?
i did not have a problem
... with your singing
4-5 minute loading times due to a lack of SSD by the look of things...
SSD is basically a must have these days if you want to play games on pc without pulling your hair out over every 5+ minute load screen.
The story should have more choices and paths like the first game.
I almost skipped Human Revolution because it was a last gen title. Glad I didn't. I guess you have a point that there was less choice in MD, but I didn't really notice because the terrorists seemed not really likeable and from everything in Adam's history suggests he wouldn't become a terrorist.
A big criticism of MD was that it didn't have an epic, worldwide, global conspiracy type story like HR, but I can overlook that too.
Loading didn't feel as long as that on console. Still longer than I'd like. Especially since the South half of Prague is so much smaller. And I posted this before you said not to so 🤷♂️
The 10 minute mark was when the lighters came out.
Great vid !
Offshoot question:
What do you think about The Phantom Pain Ultimate edition coming soon?
Sarif always reminded me of Saul Goodman for some reason
I would of thought having small environments, the game wouldn't have problems loading.
No advertisement, how can you make money without it man
My technical hiccups included frame skips and 0.5 second freezes when in the hub area no matter the graphical settings. Still happens. Any ideas about why?
You had VRAM overhead
Was that Yakuza i saw at the start, I fucking love that game
Hey Brit you importing P5 or suffering the next 5 months like the rest of us that don't know nipponese?
Does the PS4 version have technical issues? I've kind of fallen off the PC gaming train nowadays.
Where can I get the full version of the song "Loading Times"?
You need a good storage device if you wanna cut loading times a lot. I only load, at most, for 20 seconds.
3 years late but not everything with choice and leveling up is an RPG, this is an immersive sim
Lovely video mate
Anyone know the song in the beginning of the video?
Yeah my load times are awful but I'm on Xbone. But my loading times seem similar to yours, so idk maybe it wasn't well optimized for PC?
I lost it when the Closing Time parody came on haha. I really recommend the PC version. This game chugs and lags on PS4.
Actually the voice of Sarif is a crazy homeless guy. He went "underground" in the sense that no one can find him.
Wasn't that whole video just a joke though?
He did an interview after Deus Ex 1 where he talks about the reality he lives with and that video was an enlightening experience. He is 100% cuckoo.
He's not "underground" nor does he believe in gangstalking Illuminati fruitflies bullshit (that video was a comedy skit.) He did however piss off some very rich people who were abusing their children, and those people had connections to fuck him over. So in reality he's not 100% cuckoo, he's only 69% cuckoo at most in my humble opinion.
that song... i get it
Does the DLC require the game disc?